Why Shakespeare Could Never Have Been French
Shakespeare sounds a certain way. Why? And why could it only work in English? • Written with Gretchen McCulloch of Lingthusiasm! Her podcast has an episode about how translators approach texts: lingthusiasm.com/post/6320866...
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Apologies to French folks; this was tough!
@thomastrain
3 жыл бұрын
wow
@pigeonb3443
3 жыл бұрын
1 WEEK AGO? is this glitch only happening to me?
@siddhanthbhattacharyya4206
3 жыл бұрын
ok
@LewieGames
3 жыл бұрын
@@pigeonb3443 unlisted probably
@insomaniac1796
3 жыл бұрын
a week ago?
Swans are never surprisingly aggressive, they are always as aggressive as expected
@ec2552
3 жыл бұрын
its tom’s weakness
@brandonkey181
3 жыл бұрын
Ok then i will lower my expectations for their aggression
@locust76
3 жыл бұрын
Swandalf the Gray, is that you?
@tornadotaylor8956
3 жыл бұрын
Then they must be extremely aggressive
@celebrim1
3 жыл бұрын
@Spatza You must be fun at parties.
Tom: There will be jump cuts. Also Tom: Single take, no jump cuts.
@teddyboragina6437
3 жыл бұрын
if there was a jumpcut, I missed it
@David_Box
3 жыл бұрын
*"One take!"*
@xchronox0
3 жыл бұрын
I noticed one, but that's it.
@AgentWaltonSimons
3 жыл бұрын
@@xchronox0 Where, I've watched through a couple of times, and can't spot it!
@Zephirus10
3 жыл бұрын
I was watching the swans carefully for jumps... And attacks. Can never be too careful.
IMO the most important reason why Shakespeare could never have been French is because he was born in Stratford-upon-Avon, England
@vittoriobr_6271
12 күн бұрын
Lmao
I'm fluent in English and French and you've blown my mind. I'm well aware of lexical stress in English but it never crossed my mind about how it doesn't exist in French
@hansvandermeulen5515
2 жыл бұрын
Great Britain was ruled by francophones for several centuries, starting with William the Conqueror.
@JaKingScomez
2 жыл бұрын
@@hansvandermeulen5515 show me proof of each ruler through the generations ruling the entirety of great britian without losing it during those unnamed centuries you are talking about
@georgeiii2998
Жыл бұрын
@Viva Espana What?
@etaashmathamsetty7399
Жыл бұрын
same, but im not good at french
@MuyBienFelipe
Жыл бұрын
@@JaKingScomez They literally slapped it as they royal motto.
“Stress isn’t normally something you have to consider when writing” A million stressed writers disagree
@nimeshajayatunge4007
3 жыл бұрын
"but this does put a smile on my face"
@eccentricOrange
3 жыл бұрын
What about non-writers? It's a lot of stress for us STEM people!!
@spacecoyote6646
3 жыл бұрын
Unless you have already spent the advance and still have writer's block
@claudelister8149
2 жыл бұрын
@@eccentricOrange that's,,completely unrelated? The joke was taking "stress" and "writing" and twisting it to "stressed writers"? Sure, it must be hard being academic, but it's also hard being a creative who everyone belittles because art is seen as less than STEM.
@musewolfman
2 жыл бұрын
@@claudelister8149 and that's why STEAM is better than STEM.
In an alternate universe: *Why Chèquespire Could Never Have Been English*
@tom.walder
3 жыл бұрын
Chêquespirrghe
@CrimsonPhantom88
3 жыл бұрын
莎士比亚
@ines3511
3 жыл бұрын
pourquoi chaiquespire n'aurait pas pu être Anglais
@mrrandom1265
3 жыл бұрын
@@tom.walder there's no "gh" in French 😉
@paulp8028
3 жыл бұрын
Pourquoi Chexpire n'aurait jamais pu être anglais
As an English speaker, this video made me realize that Haiku can pack infinitely more meaning in Japanese than English ever can.
@ALittleMessi
2 жыл бұрын
English Haiku kind of sucks in my opinion, and that's probably why
@rin_etoware_2989
Жыл бұрын
@@ALittleMessi a lot of it sucks because people keep thinking that you only need the 5-7-5 syllable structure to count as a haiku.
@NoddyTron
Жыл бұрын
I disagree, I'd say English can pack just as much in - BUT Japanese prizes economy above all, so the Haiku form itself makes more sense as a poetic challenge in Japanese.
@velandiapatinojuliandavid1140
Жыл бұрын
Weeb
@IoriTatsuguchi
Жыл бұрын
Would you care to explain why you think so?
It took me years to realize how fundamentally different a perception of sound English speakers have, compared to us native French speaker. I had the impression that I was perfectly pronouncing English words (I wasn't, but honestly it wasn't that bad), and to my English-speaking colleagues I might as well have been speaking Mandarin. Meanwhile, they would mumble something and because they just pronounced right the stressed syllable, a Welshman, an American, an Australian and a Scotswoman would have no trouble whatsoever understanding each other. The other eye opener was when I realized that beyond the obvious complexity of prononciation as taught to us at school was another layer and that there were much more subtle nuances of sounds - which natives were very much aware of.
@kerriwilson7732
2 жыл бұрын
Be that as it may, as an English speaking Canadian I am enormously impressed by fluently bilingual francophones. I do not have the gift of learning languages.
@509Gman
2 жыл бұрын
“a Welshman, an American, an Australian, and a Scotswoman would have no trouble whatsoever understanding each other” Well yes, but actually no.
@anicola2
2 жыл бұрын
@@509Gman Scratch "no trouble whatsoever", replace with "much less trouble" ^^
@weirdlanguageguy
2 жыл бұрын
@@kerriwilson7732 I would say it's less that you dont have a gift and more that you dont have the proper springboards. The reason why there are so many bilingual Europeans is not because they are so much better at learning languages or because English is so easy to learn, but because most non-English speakers will have to learn out of necessity. In the days when French was the global language, all educated English speakers would have spoken French.
@TheForeverRanger
2 жыл бұрын
@@weirdlanguageguy If Zamehof had his way with it, we would all be speaking Esperanto.
“Surprisingly aggressive swans” Also known as swans
@simonmultiverse6349
2 жыл бұрын
Now there was a young Scot called McNameter With a tool of prodigious diameter 'Twas not merely the size Which occasioned surprise, But the rhythm: iambic pentameter
@freakoftheweek5470
2 жыл бұрын
@@simonmultiverse6349 😳🙈❤️🔥
@simonmultiverse6349
2 жыл бұрын
@@freakoftheweek5470 Said a poet from Uzbekistan: Oh, my limericks never will scan! They are fine in their way But they all go astray When I try to put as many words into the last line as I possibly can.
@seanjohnisee
2 жыл бұрын
@@simonmultiverse6349 COME BACK WE NEED MORE
@ieatbananaswiththepeel4782
2 жыл бұрын
@@simonmultiverse6349 PLEASE
Alternate title: How Shakespeare ensured the French could never fully appreciate his plays
@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
3 жыл бұрын
Romeo and Juliet was still funny
@codekillerz5392
3 жыл бұрын
Is that what I think it is? I suck at recognizing rhythm.
@baranxlr
3 жыл бұрын
My hero O7
@amytg777
3 жыл бұрын
Truly the patron saint of Brits everywhere.
@amytg777
3 жыл бұрын
@@codekillerz5392 What do you think it is? I’m trying to understand the joke but iambic pentameter doesn’t seem to fit and my recall when it comes to less famous rhythm is... dodgy, as Mr. Scott might say.
You made me understand why, as a native french speaker, I find english poetry so eerie yet so pleasant. Thank you !
@SmokingLaddy
9 ай бұрын
The water in Majorca don't taste like what it ought to
As a German, it never occurred to me that there are languages without lexical stress, despite me knowing French and Spanish. You really learn something new every day! Thank you!
@ALittleMessi
2 жыл бұрын
I guess that's the difference between knowing a language and being native in it. Apart from accents, they could probably tell that you're not a native French or Spanish
@gabrielesalera7088
Жыл бұрын
to be fair Spanish should have lexical stress. I mean, Italian does have it so I suppose ot should be the same for Spanish
@mariaah3073
Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielesalera7088 I believe it does, it definitely has those words that change meaning when you change the stressed syllable. Same with Portuguese as well.
@claracuenca9221
11 ай бұрын
spanish does have lexical stress. In fact, it is shown in the words itself (á,é,í,ó,ú)
Me as a French : "I can't stress enough." -: "You can't stress what ?" -:" ..... I just can't."
@m_uz1244
3 жыл бұрын
"a French"? tf
@Gaellka
3 жыл бұрын
a french ...
@Emperorerror
3 жыл бұрын
@@m_uz1244 It's an extremely common mistake by non-native speakers of English. In most languages, you can say "a French." English is weird in that you can do that with some demonyms but not others. You can say, "an American," "a Mexican," "an Italian." You can't say "a British," "a Japanese," "a Swedish," or, in this case, "a French." I'm not 100% sure what the rule is, but it seems to be at its very basic that you can only do it with ones that end with "an." "A German" does sound kind of weird, though, so I guess there are exceptions. What you can always do, in English, however, is say, "a French person" or "a Japanese person." You could even say, "an American person," but that does sound a bit weird. Less weird, though, than "a French."
@bunnyben5607
3 жыл бұрын
This joke works on so many levels
@TheSpacecraftX
3 жыл бұрын
@@m_uz1244 Wouldn't be the internet without somebody complaining about a non native English speaker not getting the nuances of their second language quite perfect.
Me scrolling through yt at midnight: *sure, let’s find out why Shakespeare isn’t french*
@buttyobject575
3 жыл бұрын
Ahah always like that
@SavageJarJar
3 жыл бұрын
let’s?
@lilybigwilly
2 жыл бұрын
@@SavageJarJar let us??
@beinzheans3918
2 жыл бұрын
@@lilybigwilly no it means "let's've'd" iodot smh
@DDM506
2 жыл бұрын
For me 1am
I'm French and I had never heard someone sounding so French while speaking normal English
As a native Russian speaker I find it funny that our poetry is also syllabo-tonic, just like English or German so it's easier to translate those languages properly but our authors mostly translated French poems, because it was much more culturally significant back in XVIII-XIX centuries
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
6 ай бұрын
Why are you using Roman numerals?
@tpuddin
6 ай бұрын
@@AlchemistOfNirnrootbecause that's how you count centuries
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
6 ай бұрын
@@tpuddin most people just say 18th-19th century
@tiringsarcasm
6 ай бұрын
@@AlchemistOfNirnrootit just looks cooler
@unepintade
2 күн бұрын
@@AlchemistOfNirnrootroman numerals are the norm for centuries in most european languages bar English
As a French who had to learn English on the fly, I can confirm that the stress is everywhere.
@privatkanal6572
3 жыл бұрын
this comment is a MOOD xD
@gutiwalravens
3 жыл бұрын
l'anglais est stressant je suis d'accord avec toi ;)
@dooplon5083
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it was quite distressing
@leophyte9663
3 жыл бұрын
*badam tsuu*
@bazza945
3 жыл бұрын
That happens because our British friends delight in stressing over EVERYTHING.
You know it's cold when Tom is wearing more than a t-shirt.
@nix3l_
3 жыл бұрын
More than a red t-shirt
@Uns0uled01
3 жыл бұрын
r/technicallythetruth
@Someonewithaspace
3 жыл бұрын
you know its not cold when tom is wearing a t-shirt
@Haunted1919
3 жыл бұрын
@Spatza pal are you okay?
@christianhoej1562
3 жыл бұрын
@Spatza huh a youtube bot go figure
J'adore entendre un Anglais parler de la langue française, ça me fait remarquer toutes nos bizarreries linguistiques .
@byronwilliams7977
Жыл бұрын
I'd say its mostly the prosodic differences between the languages. Je dirais que c'est largement a cause des differences prosodiques entre les langues.
As a french, it made me understand stuff about my own language. Very interesting. I think also this lack of lexical stress made our poets more creative in the content and less in musicality. I don't know how i ended up watching this though.
@calliarcale
Жыл бұрын
French poetry is still very musical; it just depends less on inherent rhythm. Meter is still present, though. One of the most challenging poetic forms, the villanelle, comes from France, and it's very musical and highly structured despite the absence of lexical stress.
@markhathaway9456
11 ай бұрын
J'apprends français et il y a plusieurs de Français qui me disent ça. Cependant j'ai appris très peu de anglais, ma langue natale.
Me, a Frenchman trying to test what's demonstrated here: Suddenly, brain can no longer think in French.
@zombie_pigdragon
3 жыл бұрын
I learned recently that this is called the "centipede's dilemma," which is cool that it has a name.
@bobiboulon
3 жыл бұрын
@@zombie_pigdragon Oh, I didn't know! I'll look for some popularization video about it. ;)
@aztec0112
3 жыл бұрын
@@zombie_pigdragon :OMG, this reminds me of my brilliant, but a wee bit touched son! Thanks for the insight!!
@targard.quantumfrack6854
3 жыл бұрын
@HDStudios Il est Belge.
@blackmber
3 жыл бұрын
J'irai par la forêt, j'irai par la montagne. Je ne puis demeurer loin de toi plus longtemps. am I helping
"Stress isn't normally something you have to consider too much while writing" You should see me write a paper for uni...
@zralokvemigraci
3 жыл бұрын
Ahahhahaha that’s too true 😭👏👏
@doom4627
3 жыл бұрын
Normally there are exceptions
@eiriks680
3 жыл бұрын
Comment of the year
@alexanderstelmach9005
3 жыл бұрын
Took a gallon of brandy to get me through the last term XD
@mutd789hgmlkrt7
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
French native here, been practicing English every day for a very long time. I know a ton of vocabulary, grammar, rules etc... But the one thing that I can't seem to get a grip on is THAT. The lexical stress. The different ways you pronounced "Washington" made absolutely no difference for me. I'd love to master that aspect of the English language one day. Great video btw, as always, thank you Tom :)
@vindolanda6974
Жыл бұрын
The 'Washingtons' were pronounced very similar to each other, as a native English speaker the difference was hard to pick up.
@whitekyurem4565
7 ай бұрын
@@vindolanda6974yeah I don't think he really changed the stressed syllable properly - too used to the usual pronunciation that his brain told him to keep it more or less the same.
1:17 As a learner of English as second language. I am amazed by my trained ears that they sound to me so different. I didn't expect my ears to be that trained.
This will be full of jump cuts. Not a single jump cut. Bravo!
@orochiv324
3 жыл бұрын
Ok verified person
@real_dddf
3 жыл бұрын
or should we say, bravo editor?
@junkokonno
3 жыл бұрын
hi checkmark
@essentialatom
3 жыл бұрын
Predictable
@flymypg
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. It would have needed a jump-cut to get rid of the warning about jump-cuts. No way to win.
“There’re going to be jump cuts” Me: doesn’t see any jump cuts Nice flex, Tom
@lonestarr1490
3 жыл бұрын
One of the best presenters on KZread.
@MishKoz
3 жыл бұрын
@UC5U_P1nHWh2PSNZQ_TL7pDg How
@reversepsychology3
3 жыл бұрын
: awesome :
@reversepsychology3
3 жыл бұрын
It is a KZread emoji
@reversepsychology3
3 жыл бұрын
Type that without spaces
Tom Scott: Why Shakespeare Could Never Have Been French Me: Because Shakespeares parents never went to France
Well said and extremely well laid out. I never thought of studying poetry rythm. As a native french speaker I have been conscious of my lack of sensitivity for stressing for a long time. Yet that is something even tens of thousands of hours of viewing and listening to english material couldn't teach me, however badly I wished it. The only way to learn is to mingle among natural english speakers, and slowly adjust your skills according to their reactions (or lack thereof). Or have a close relationship with one natural english speaker, and ask them to correct you when they feel you could do better. Since I can do neither right now, I shall listen to Shakespeare poetry and at last discover its wonders.
1:32 "Stress isn't something you have to consider too much while writing," Tom Scott forgot all about school, huh.
@blueberry1c2
3 жыл бұрын
Solid mechanics homework: "depict a typical stress element" Me: (draws myself)
Can I just say, as someone who requires subtitles: these subtitles are so easy to understand, and whoever made them deserves a raise
@crassinula
3 жыл бұрын
@Spatza dude. Chill
@ILOVEYOUTUBE12722
3 жыл бұрын
@Spatza k
@theblinkingbrownie4654
3 жыл бұрын
@UC0Kw1wDuYR3mIJARn1HCUPw ok but this doesn't the fact that no one asked, you are just annoying people, if you think you're changing people's minds then you are just wrong and that's just facts. People like you give atheists a bad name, buddy.
@canonicallykayfabe
3 жыл бұрын
@@Spanky2k what
@HelenavV_
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
I love how Tom can take something i have zero interest in and make it interesting to the point im completely engrossed in the video
You are a legend. Not for researching this and writing this brilliant script, but for narrating this whole thing in a single shot. Wow
"Surprisingly aggressive swans." Only surprising if you don't know swans.
@mikeprice25
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they were passively aggressive, which would be quite surprising.
@Vespuchian
3 жыл бұрын
Swans: Geese, but after the level up.
@hannibalburgers477
3 жыл бұрын
A N G E R Y
@IONATVS
3 жыл бұрын
As TierZoo would put it, Swans have as good an intimate skill as geese, but actually have the stats to back it up and MESS YOU UP.
@iannoble8626
3 жыл бұрын
And particularly if you don't know the Stratford swans
“Some surprisingly aggressive swans” the words of someone who has never interacted with a swan before
@chrisbanbury
3 жыл бұрын
Nice limerick ;)
@igualnimp
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you want to interact with them?
@mjp121
3 жыл бұрын
Also the word of swan handlers. One can never be prepared for how aggressive swans are.
@silviasanchez648
3 жыл бұрын
@@igualnimp Because they're there?
@AlphaChinoz
3 жыл бұрын
@@igualnimp aggressive swans will interact with you, whether you want to or not...
“I’m being pestered by some surprisingly aggressive swans” Top 10 quotes I never knew I needed
Tom would make an amazing teacher, in virtually any subject. I'd be captivated, as I am with all his videos.
There once was a Scott named McAmeter With a tool of prodigious diameter 'Twas not his size That caused such suprise 'Twas his rhythm - iambic pentameter
@IsmaelEscobedo
3 жыл бұрын
for some reason i read this in a french accent
@willburchett4667
3 жыл бұрын
I’m too tired to know what this means, but it sounds cool
@DanShuttlewood
3 жыл бұрын
Naughty.
@alexanderfroebelzehl3825
3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@dariusanderton3760
3 жыл бұрын
the words of a learned pervert
"Stress isn't normally something you have to consider while writing," Students:
@toamastar
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too!! haha
@albertjackinson
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not stressed while writing... Except when I have times essays. Those absolutely suck. Why do they exist?! What's the point?!
@iabervon
3 жыл бұрын
Normally, stress is something you have to *not* consider while writing because oh god is it 4:10 already I need to turn in my paper at 5 and I don't have a conclusion or half my pages and it's terrible doesn't make a good essay.
Lovely explanation! I did an English degree at a French university and this concept was one of the hardest things for French-speaking students to grasp.
You‘re such a gift to the internet. Thank you Tom I really enjoyed this one!
As a non-native English speaker, I have never heard how Shakespeare sounds in English and my mind is actually blown rn
@michas7993
3 жыл бұрын
I had a slightly different impression. This rhythm was strangely familiar to me as if I heard it somewhere before as a kid watching various english movies and it took me a while to realize that Edgar A. Poe's or Yeats poetry sound exactly the same as it's also written in iambic pentameter.
@stttrm
2 жыл бұрын
Never liked Shakespeare and never read him in english, but had to read some in highschool and i can say that russian translations sound very similar to the original. At least in terms of rhythm. Or maybe i just remember it too bad. I said i don't like his poetry
@SobiTheRobot
2 жыл бұрын
@@stttrm Shakespeare is better watched or performed than read.
@nyctotheory
2 жыл бұрын
@@stttrm Reading it is bland, and often difficult to parse. But watch it played out by very skilled actors, and suddenly there's a lot of life and drama and/or humor there.
@TheImmortalSorrow
2 жыл бұрын
@@stttrm watch The Hollow Crown
Of course you have not really experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon
@martinebonita2658
3 жыл бұрын
Oo ello. You had me wading into a pond to collect water this past quarantine
@glennash4606
3 жыл бұрын
Make more Fray Bentos please
@kjamison5951
3 жыл бұрын
Qa’pla! King, Son of Lear. Glory be to his house! Two Ferengis of Veridian 3. Martok and Juliet. And Glory be to your house!
@GreRe9
3 жыл бұрын
+
@TheSenator007
3 жыл бұрын
What if Shakespeare responded to scam e-mails? Imagine the typical scam where the story is that a rich guy died in a plane crash with no next of kin listed and the scammer gets the response "Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy."
This was soooo well preformed. Great job
I know this is 7 months old, but this has been probably my favourite little KZread series in quite some time; I finished them all within a few days. Great work on this Tom.
Sad there were no shots of aggressive swans chasing Tom. 10/10 would watch again.
@Gebieter
3 жыл бұрын
I expected to see this kind of outtakes at the end as well. I am disappointed.
@rolandet
3 жыл бұрын
😁👍
@LewisRawlinson30
3 жыл бұрын
Just the one swan actually.
This is also explains why French witches and wizards couldn't cast decent levitation spells if their lives depended on it
@HaloInverse
3 жыл бұрын
"Wingardium LeviosAAAAAA".
@ErikNilsen1337
3 жыл бұрын
Stop it, Ron.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
3 жыл бұрын
The folk at Beauxbatons could not compare.
@dodgeman777
3 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder how they translated that scene into French
@Cortex403
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that, thanks to French bureaucracy, each spell must be accompanied by a form 3045-B duly signed really doesn't help...
Osez l'alexandrin: douze pieds, rime riche, pause au mitan du vers, césure à l'hémistiche (De cape et de Crocs, Acte VIII) "Dare the alexandrin, twelve feet, rich rhymes, Stop in the middle, cut in the half" Definition of alexandrin in alexandrin said by a fierce fighter in dual with a Spanish wolf in a French comic. Deserves to be read ;) Thanks for the video, I never understood before why English poetry sounds so good without rhymes :)
When you said “the lexical stress has to land on the beat” i laughed a little bc the lexical stress of that sentence lined up perfectly
"... some surprisingly aggressive swans." There's nothing surprising about aggressive swans. They're foul-tempered killers.
@paxgallery6646
3 жыл бұрын
*fowl-tempered
@Tigerdragon2
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe these swans were more aggressive than regular swans (whose standard level of aggression is 'attack')?
@ThreadBomb
3 жыл бұрын
Who do they kill? Apart from fish, that is.
@Ramog1000
3 жыл бұрын
@@Tigerdragon2 you mean their level of agression was 'nuke that pesky human!'?
@daveh7720
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThreadBomb People. A guy in a city near me was attacked and drowned in a pond by a pair of swans.
You've never truly experienced Shakespeare, until you've seen it performed in the original Klingon. Thank you for your videos, Tom. I almost always learn something new from them. Keep on rockin' !!
Near the end of the episode, I was looking at the way you emphasize things. It’s amazing how relevant that is to style.
As a French person, I must say understanding and using lexical stress had to be one of the most difficult things to learn. Even now I will still forget to stress the words correctly if I don't pay attention.
@haeilsey
3 жыл бұрын
difficult to learn and to unlearn, the pain goes both ways. hard to keep up with spoken French when I'm subconsciously expecting the stress and pauses that aren't present
@PapaSMURFFS
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I've always had problems and couldn't figure out why, this video completely enlightened me to why I have trouble parsing naturally spoken French compared with individual words, or written French. Like, I wish a French teacher years ago had been able to articulate this to me!
@klop4228
3 жыл бұрын
It goes the other way too. The number of English-speakers I've heard who can't say French words and names because they put the stress in the wrong place is frustrating to me - and I'm not even French!
@lukmly013
3 жыл бұрын
Welp, I didn't even know this existed.
@romainsavioz5466
3 жыл бұрын
Or the th sound
Can I just say, massive appreciation for not only the fact that you're so adamant about having accurate and high quality captions, but also for how much you acknowledge the importance of captions encompassing more than the literal words spoken in a video. This video wouldn't work with the lazy way a majority of creators, and even proper television programs, caption their content, and many videos don't. Never disappointed by these. This channel is really a little spot of content where I never feel out of place or like I'm just an uncomfortable visitor in a hearing world.
@ShaunRuigrok
3 жыл бұрын
Tom and also Alec from Technology Connections do a fantastic job with captions
@NightGlyde
3 жыл бұрын
...just gonna rewatch the video with captions because I gotta experience this for myself. Tom is great!
@strehlow
3 жыл бұрын
@@NightGlyde I just did the same thing.
@applehack97
3 жыл бұрын
3kliksphilip does it as well
@TheLukasDirector
3 жыл бұрын
What's it like to watch a video about phonetics as a deaf person anyway? Do you understand the pronounciation stuff? Just very curious.
I like how the parts explaining different poetry forms are (mostly) written in those forms.
The rhythm of your explanation was great!
Your script is just sooo amazingly well-written. "The lexical stress has to land on the beat" is a nice little Limerick, and "So why does Shakespeare sound like Shakespeare" is iambic in itself, right before you introduce the word "iambic". This is just too good. Great work!
@bobbymoretti
3 жыл бұрын
"Two words that make a fancy way to say" "Stress every other syllable, in pairs" "With five such pairs in every line you write" all in iambic pentameter.
@joeybeauvais-feisthauer3137
3 жыл бұрын
Also the alexandrine explanation was in alexandrine: "Twelve syllables per line, broken into two parts; and it should also rhyme, stress the end of each half."
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
3 жыл бұрын
The best poems are the subtle ones like this.
“Surprisingly aggressive swans” So... regular swans?
Living in Ontario close to Quebec, I never realized the stress on the last syllable of French words… when I tried it I realized it was no different from how I speak french normally!! even before knowing that though just growing up around Québécois speaking people made me naturally accustomed to that
Excellent! As someone who loves languages, words, and different cultures, I found this new and fascinating.
Throughout the entire video I kept waiting for him to be attacked by swans.
@xp8969
3 жыл бұрын
@Rita - F**UĆК МЕ ! you misspelled xp
@xp8969
3 жыл бұрын
And more importantly I told you not to call me here
@nitehawk86
3 жыл бұрын
Or to have a jump cut. Neither of which happened.
@joshuan.
3 жыл бұрын
Same
As a french person, I can confirm that every exemple of limerick that Tom gave that was supposed to "not sound right" sounded perfectly right to me...
@pierre1080p
3 жыл бұрын
Same !
@lawrencesmeaton6930
3 жыл бұрын
They sound extremely jarring and 'wrong' to my scottish ears. What a funny world.
@targard.quantumfrack6854
3 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencesmeaton6930 I'm french (Breton actually) and recently watched the 3 Stargate shows. In SG Atlantis, there is Dr. Carson Beckett, a Scottish. I loved his strong accent but oh boy I had difficulties to understand sometime. I'll pay you Scotts a visit please save me some haggis and don't take offense if I ask you to repeat ;).
@randlog
3 жыл бұрын
I even had to search what exactly is a limerick...
@MonkeyDAmy
3 жыл бұрын
@@targard.quantumfrack6854 whooop Bretagne ! I watched all 5 seasons of Outlander and their Scottish accent was music to my ears. I absolutely love it. 🥰🙌🏽
KZread randomly recommended this to me, and oh my, it was the most interesting "random suggestion" it gave me in recent memory. Thanks!
Tom: “I’m going to mess this up and have jump cuts.” Also Tom: _bangs it out in one take_
3:55 "but in geneRAL, French stress SITS, at the end of the utteRANCE." as a native french speaker it's funny how you suddenly sounded like French poetry
@AntonLFG
2 жыл бұрын
Now that I imagine French accents in my head this makes complete sense.
@KrymsonScale
2 жыл бұрын
@@AntonLFG It really does tbh
@meilline3616
2 жыл бұрын
Me, a native french speaker : Oh so that's why it's hard to speak English without sounding french !
@iblame_nargles
2 жыл бұрын
@@meilline3616 It's really obvious now that it's been pointed out! As a native English speaker, I think prefer it. Sounds nicer imho
@froggod6484
2 жыл бұрын
3:50
Very interesting, and also your explanation of iambic pentameter was clear and concise.
@Newt.--.Jaeden
3 жыл бұрын
explained Iambic Pentameter better in 2 Minutes than my GCSE English Teacher did in 2 Years
@totaleNonale
3 жыл бұрын
@@Newt.--.Jaeden seriously, i couldn't have told you what it means before this, bit its so simple
@johnwilliams3555
3 жыл бұрын
Five years of High School where it was mentioned every year and I never got it. Now I do!
@peter6531
3 жыл бұрын
sounds like a Grammarly ad 🤭
@ehehhehehehhe
3 жыл бұрын
I can finally write in iambic pentameter now
Really interesting video! as a french person, i absolutely missed the importance of stress in Shakespeare's writing, and now i want to go back to read his poems
Fascinating! I was an 'A' student in English all through my schooling and haven't even thought about the term 'iambic pentameter' in decades!🙂 Thanks, Tom.
As a Frenchman, my time in the US was very hard because I couldn't put my emphasis in the right places, and people could not understand me.
@zaidabraham7310
3 жыл бұрын
Pardon?
@robn2171
3 жыл бұрын
A la... French fry perhaps?
@haeilsey
3 жыл бұрын
I have trouble following along with standard French speech for the same reason! the lack of pauses and regular stress makes speaking come across as too fast. it's a bit easier actually to understand Southern and Swiss dialects because they don't use quite the same stress patterns
@loeftk1030
3 жыл бұрын
@@haeilsey Never talk to Northern french people then, or you will enter a world of pain and confusion
@evilspoons
3 жыл бұрын
@@haeilsey I'm attempting to learn French (just on an app, picking it up again after having several years in junior high and high school mostly forgotten from 20 years ago). The synthetic voice has exactly this problem for me - it's really damn fast and hard to pick words apart until you know exactly which ones are which!
"The feeling and sound of a limerick, relies on the lexical stress" Very correct, my utmost respect But I wish you were wearing a dress
@witherblaze
2 жыл бұрын
Limerick doesn't rhyme with stress nor dress
@RainCarr06
2 жыл бұрын
@@witherblaze they gave it a good shot though, I say well done
@NetRolller3D
2 жыл бұрын
@@witherblaze it's a limemorty
@Ken_neThT
2 жыл бұрын
@@witherblaze limerick rhymes with lexical because of the Ls, relies and stress rhyme because of the Ss
@RegularTetragon
2 жыл бұрын
Femboy Tom Scott
This was surprisingly interesting. Well done!!
I wish we had something like this in School. Just your short Video with surface information about english poetry rly made me to learn more about this topic.
“Some surprisingly aggressive swans” is so aggressively British
@klop4228
3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly so, or?
@BigSupremePacHamster
3 жыл бұрын
Just the one swan actually
@Haedrian
3 жыл бұрын
Well, they are all owned by the Queen
@pokemasterx4244
3 жыл бұрын
In Stratford they aren't even that aggressive tbh
"surprisingly aggressive swans" Either you've never come into contact with a swan before, or they're literally trying to kill you.
@usernametaken017
2 жыл бұрын
"either you've never come in contact with swans before, or they're behaving normaly" ftfy
@jiraiyaofmountmyouboku1945
2 жыл бұрын
My was nearly killed by one
The algorithm did well today. I’m now subscribed to this ridiculously interesting and knowledgeable chap!
Tom, mate! What brilliant content.
Me as a simple Frenchman : English are too stressed, they have to learn to relax.
@graemetang4173
2 жыл бұрын
english are too STRESSED, they 'ave to learn to reLAX
@Suite_annamite
2 жыл бұрын
@@graemetang4173 engLISH (h')ar tout STRESSED, zey 'AV to LEARN 'ow to be reLAXED.
@10gamer64
2 жыл бұрын
Hey at least it isn't Russian
@citizenstranger
2 жыл бұрын
my boss is french and shes the least relaxed person i know, so...
"go on location Tom, it'll look fantastic" mate, ya live in England
@jackosullivan6388
3 жыл бұрын
Oi mate I live there it's not as bad it looks lmao
@marcuscross8051
3 жыл бұрын
Mate, there's nothing wrong with England.
@photonicpizza1466
3 жыл бұрын
@Spatza O...kay?
@vijay-c
3 жыл бұрын
@@marcuscross8051 Execpt the weather
@poppypenguincataj9407
3 жыл бұрын
@/Spatza Ik you’re probably a bot but you spamming these comments is part if the reason people don’t take atheists like myself seriously :/ Other people, don’t reply to this and report it. Replying is what they want
Yoooo I've been listening to Lingthusiasm for a class! It's cool seeing their work elsewhere as well
this is actually taught me some stuff i can use for rapping. love it!
"It's two degrees above freezing and I'm being being pestered ocationally by surprisingly aggressive swans." Welcome to the great British outdoors.
@bazza945
3 жыл бұрын
They are protected by The Queen, and they know it.
@samuelaubrey481
3 жыл бұрын
Until they get pissed on at 2 am by a drunk 18 y/o ;)
@AngryKittens
3 жыл бұрын
Such savage wilderness.
@killerbug05
3 жыл бұрын
Replace "two degrees above freezing" with "two degrees below 0 f°" and "aggressive swans" with "agressive geese" and you have just described my entire life in one sentence.
@ikbintom
3 жыл бұрын
Being being
Hi, as a French person I want to thank you for this. I've studied Shakespeare in English class and in French class, and to be honest, no one was as good as you to explain this concept. So thank you ! Also, you trying to sound French and then speaking as an English person made me realize the difference
@PanAndScanBuddy
3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, Charlie
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
3 жыл бұрын
As always, Tom can outcompete the pros.
@pokemasterx4244
3 жыл бұрын
How's the baguette?
1:05 ah I see you've mastered Boris Johnson speech
this actually really helps my drama homework thanks tom
Tom: "This is not going to be 1 take" The video: *is one take*
@elweewutroone
3 жыл бұрын
Illuminati confirmed… 😶
@apollo1573
3 жыл бұрын
*sad jump cut noises*
@abbytran8514
3 жыл бұрын
Or was it??? *x files theme song plays*
”Stress isn't something you are normally concerned to much while writing" Me, being extremely stressed due to the deadline of my exam I am currently writing on...😰
@dragondotorg7323
3 жыл бұрын
Really? Only for this one and not the next and the next and the next
@dragondotorg7323
3 жыл бұрын
Just kidding
@hasanmuhammad6651
3 жыл бұрын
@Ho Lam YIU it's probably an online exam
well, now i will know how to do a great poem in my next english lesson from france! thx for this content!
I have never understood iambic pentameter until you put it visually like that, that was so helpful
'I'm being pestered occasionally by some surprisingly aggressive swans.' Oh you sweet summer child.
@GameMaster-pz9pw
3 жыл бұрын
@Spatza what do you expect to gain from that comment?
@robbirose7032
3 жыл бұрын
@Spatza um ok
@kugelblitzingularity304
3 жыл бұрын
@@GameMaster-pz9pw perhaps a spam report. And that I can provide
@gab_v250
3 жыл бұрын
coming soon: Untitled Swan Game
@woofyou1186
3 жыл бұрын
Ignore spatza the spaz
Funnily enough, the most celebrated French translator of the most celebrated English poet, Bill Shakespeare, is none other than the son of the most celebrated French poet, François-Victor Hugo.
@talhaj9891
3 жыл бұрын
Billy?
@lethe56
3 жыл бұрын
@@talhaj9891 Timmy? Is that you?
@talhaj9891
3 жыл бұрын
@@lethe56 Yes! Can't believe it's actually you!
@lethe56
3 жыл бұрын
@@talhaj9891 Wait till I tell mother! I found my long lost brother!
@talhaj9891
3 жыл бұрын
@@lethe56 I can't control my tears right now.
…I did not know how much I needed this. Thanks.
I've heard of iambic pentameter before and have looked it up numerous times trying to understand it, but I guess all I needed was someone voicing it out for me to finally understand it, thank you
"Surprisingly aggressive swans"? In the words of David Mitchell, "That's what they DO! They break your arm, and then the queen eats them."
@illiath4438
3 жыл бұрын
I never understood this... I don't think I've ever heard of the Queen eating peoples arms...
@563spaceman
3 жыл бұрын
@@illiath4438 You're right, it just sounds plain silly
@mmw4990
3 жыл бұрын
@@illiath4438 the queen owns all of the swans in the UK so it's insinuating that they're her little army doing her bidding
@andrewhickman-moore7646
3 жыл бұрын
I never understood why people think swans can break your arm, birds famously have bones that are weak to that kind of force, I guess it’s just something people tell kids so they don’t get too close
@563spaceman
3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewhickman-moore7646 Once again true, this comedian guy really has no clue what he's talking about smh
Swans are like: “Holy heck, is that Tom Scott?” “Let’s go and ask for his autograph!” Tom: “I’m being pestered by some annoying Swans.”
@andymac4883
3 жыл бұрын
Swans: :c
@maighstir3003
3 жыл бұрын
Swooning swans? Swans swoon? Swan swoons? That last one sounds better, but there are multiple swans... Hmm...
@hasanmuhammad6651
3 жыл бұрын
(ಥ_ಥ)
@faizfrez2729
3 жыл бұрын
They might even be real people but Tom didn't want to upset us
@benepic3101
3 жыл бұрын
Swans is two letters away from fans
great stuff, Tom!
Idk why this was on my Starting Page but it’s very interesting anyway. Thanks lad!
As someone who is a middle-school ESL-teacher who also teaches a French student English on the side, this was incredibly helpful. A lot of her pronunciations makes so much more sense to me now. Thank you, Tom.
@amjan
3 жыл бұрын
You better Google: stress timed and syllable timed languages.
"im being pestered by some surprisingly aggressive swans" *swans approaching menacingly in the background*
@MordecaiVertecimes
3 жыл бұрын
@Morshu Morichika ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ SWAN ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ
@TheRaymanFan
3 жыл бұрын
@Morshu Morichika
As a french english learner this video is really helpful because I had'nt realised there was such thing as a lexical stress before. I'm going to keep that in mind thanks for the advice
This video is a masterpiece. I've watched it soo many times