Why Qui-Gon Was the ONLY Jedi Who Believed Anakin Could Be Redeemed

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  • @HebiSaru21
    @HebiSaru21Ай бұрын

    Qui-Gon Jin taking restoring balance to an ACTUAL level 🤣

  • @darthsidius9631

    @darthsidius9631

    Ай бұрын

    And beyond physical level

  • @TsukabuNosoratori2
    @TsukabuNosoratori2Ай бұрын

    QuiGon was like a spirit father to Anakin. I remember when Anakin was killing all the sand people in the camp that killed his mother- QuiGon was crying out to Anakin to stop. But Anakin was in so much turmoil, he didn't hear the pleas.

  • @pingamalinga

    @pingamalinga

    Ай бұрын

    That sounds awful.

  • @aliastheabnormal

    @aliastheabnormal

    Ай бұрын

    Well Obi-Wan seems to be devoid of empathy. He's also a hypocrite since he wanted to shag Satine.

  • @frenzalrhomb6919

    @frenzalrhomb6919

    Ай бұрын

    I've always wondered "is Qui Gon actually his real father?"

  • @aliastheabnormal

    @aliastheabnormal

    Ай бұрын

    @@frenzalrhomb6919 Apparently its Palpatine and Plageus. Then Hugo saw the child and told Sheev to kill him.

  • @frenzalrhomb6919

    @frenzalrhomb6919

    Ай бұрын

    @aliastheabnormal Palpatine and Plagus? Both are his fathers at the same time? And do you mean Hugo Demaas? I don't think I have the spelling of Hugo's surname, right but I you know who I mean. Am I right, though?

  • @TheJmall88
    @TheJmall88Ай бұрын

    Qui Gon Jinn is a true example of what the jedi should've been like.

  • @Robert-hz9bj

    @Robert-hz9bj

    Ай бұрын

    An idiot-mystic so fixated on a big, dumb prophecy that he was totally cool with how many people had to suffer and die in order to fulfill it?

  • @kamenrangerzeo8251
    @kamenrangerzeo8251Ай бұрын

    Qui-gon Jinn was the true Jedi that should have survived and became a Jedi master to succeeded yoda.

  • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz

    @BrickDaniels-qu7bz

    Ай бұрын

    He kinda did. Didn't he?

  • @kamenrangerzeo8251

    @kamenrangerzeo8251

    Ай бұрын

    @@BrickDaniels-qu7bz well sort of. Qui-gon did try several times to convince both Yoda and Kenobi that there was still good in the fallen Skywalker. Unfortunately they didn’t want to hear it even from him or even Luke that once you go down that dark path you can never return so they practically gave up on him before even giving a chance to redeem him. In a way in spite of what happened to them they still held on to their own beliefs and wanted his son Luke to commence patricide on his own father instead of trying to help him which was all according to the dark emperor’s plan from the very beginning so in the way they were helping the Sith Lord once again without even realizing it.

  • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz

    @BrickDaniels-qu7bz

    Ай бұрын

    @@kamenrangerzeo8251 Still, Jin was that guy. I think.

  • @tengkualiff

    @tengkualiff

    Ай бұрын

    He could have been the next Jedi Grandmaster...

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703Ай бұрын

    Qui-Gon would have been the best mentor for Anakin.

  • @nilesrodriguez4343
    @nilesrodriguez4343Ай бұрын

    Qui Gon will always be my favorite Jedi

  • @constantinebodien1887

    @constantinebodien1887

    Ай бұрын

    No, Dooku was better. Qui Gon wouldn't be what he was without Dooku.

  • @shaktishaker

    @shaktishaker

    Ай бұрын

    It would have been interesting if he survived to confront Dooku

  • @Alduinhead

    @Alduinhead

    Ай бұрын

    @constantinebodien1887 No? What do you mean by "no"? He said Qui-Gon is his favorite. If Dooku was his favorite, don't you think he would have said "Dooku will always be my favorite."? Ffs. Star Wars fans give me conniptions

  • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz

    @BrickDaniels-qu7bz

    Ай бұрын

    @@Alduinhead Good. Gooood. Let the conniptions flow through you. Count Dooku was too much of a baller to not be everyone's favorite.

  • @nilesrodriguez4343

    @nilesrodriguez4343

    7 күн бұрын

    @@constantinebodien1887 I never said Qui Gon was better than Dooku, I said he was my favorite. Learn how to read.

  • @davidsmith7962
    @davidsmith7962Ай бұрын

    Qui-Gon would’ve been a great choice to be Anakin’s Master. I believe that Qui-Gon felt Anakin’s pain, sadness. & rage when he was killing the sand people one by one.

  • @greezythumb

    @greezythumb

    26 күн бұрын

    Yea he could have been. But then the Jedi and the Republic would still be under the influence of a Sith Lord.

  • @frankfreeman1553
    @frankfreeman1553Ай бұрын

    Anakin Skywalker: Space Jesus Qui-Gon Jin: Looks, sounds, and acts like Space Jesus

  • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz

    @BrickDaniels-qu7bz

    Ай бұрын

    Qui-Gon chosen one confirmed.

  • @Lanwarder

    @Lanwarder

    Ай бұрын

    I definitely like that part of the bible wherre Jesus kills the younglings....lol :p

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85Ай бұрын

    Qui-Gon is such a noble Jedi. So powerful,exceptionally smart. . True father figure and friend. Obi-Wan is partially responsible for Anakin's fall. Maybe Obi-Wan wasn't ready. But Qui-Gon completely believed and loved Anakin. May the Force be with you always😊

  • @Toshineko
    @ToshinekoАй бұрын

    ''Why Qui-Gon was the ONLY Jedi who believed Anakin could be redeemed'' Luke Skywalker: Am I a joke to you?

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    Luke brought Qui-Gon's hope to life that Anakin could be saved and returned to the bright side.

  • @kfsm8369

    @kfsm8369

    10 күн бұрын

    It said before the arrival of Luke.

  • @kaidorade1317
    @kaidorade1317Ай бұрын

    Because he understood the true prophecy. The Jedi understood the prophecy that THEY wanted.

  • @ytafan4068
    @ytafan4068Ай бұрын

    I think it comes down to the main difference between Qui-Gon and perhaps the entire Jedi Order at the time. Despite the mission they were on, Qui-Gon was willing to help Jar Jar and Anakin. Obi-Wan wasn't, and I don't think the rest of the Jedi would have either. While almost the entire Jedi Order were focused on protecting the Republic as a whole, Qui-Gon was perhaps the only one who wanted to help the individual citizens while helping the galaxy as a whole. He was able to connect and empathize with people - a skill or trait the Jedi had lost/forgotten. If the Jedi knew about Anakin and the Tusken, they would have decreed that he had turned to the dark side and cast him out. Qui-Gon would acknowledge that Anakin had committed a dark act, but he wouldn't have cast Anakin aside. He wouldn't have condoned what Anakin had done, but he would have comforted Anakin and tried to help Anakin work through the tumult of emotions. In the Legends book The Life and Times of Obi-Wan, as a ghost, Obi-Wan witnessed the events of ROTJ and the confrontation on the second Death Star. He was surprised when he saw Vader save Luke and toss the Emperor to his death. He saw Anakin reemerge. It was then that he understood what Qui-Gon was trying to teach him. Obi-Wan had given up on Anakin. Qui-Gon never did. After everything that happened, while I don't believe Qui-Gon would forgive Anakin for what he had done, he wouldn't have turned his back to Anakin. The continuity of the novel No Prisoners is debatable. Ahsoka was in it, so it should be part of the current continuity, but the Wookiepedia declared it Legends. Anyway, I think I mentioned it before, but Anakin meets Djinn Altis and the Altisian Jedi in that novel. At the end of the novel, Djinn Altis was cursing Yoda and the Jedi Order for not helping Anakin. Djinn Altis more or less stated that the Jedi Order were trying to get Anakin to control his emotions by putting a straight-jacket on them, rather than teaching Anakin to channel his emotions in a way that he could do good. There are fanfics out there where the Jedi, including Yoda, admit that while Obi-Wan was a good teacher for Anakin, Qui-Gon would have been a better mentor for Anakin. They say that because of the two's willingness to defy the Jedi Council. But I think it would have been better because of Qui-Gon's willingness to help the individual citizen rather than the whole - something Anakin wanted to do from the beginning. Qui-Gon would have been able to do what Djinn Altis believed the Jedi should have done - help Anakin learn to control his emotions and channel them to do good. Palpatine was able to do that, but to serve his evil intentions. At the beginning of a similar novel, Wild Space, Obi-Wan learned from Padmé about Shmi's death. That was enough to make him not berate Anakin for not obeying his orders to remain on Naboo. Watching Anakin break down and cry over the loss of his hand and his mother was the moment Obi-Wan chose to stop being Anakin's disapproving master and start being his friend. He did that because he saw that continuing to be the disapproving master wasn't going to help Anakin where Anakin really needed it. Around the time of Labyrinth of Evil and Revenge of the Sith, he saw that Anakin was still not at peace, and he often wondered where he went wrong. Why he didn't help Anakin more? The answer was because he didn't know how to help Anakin. He never knew how important it was to help the individual citizen. The events of the prequels and the Clone Wars, along with ROTJ, taught him that, and at the beginning of the Thrawn Trilogy, he gave Luke his final lesson before passing on completely. A lesson that C-3PO helped Luke to understand - governments are important, but so are people. This lesson enabled Luke and his allies to help Talon Karrde, Mara Jade, and Garm Bel Iblis. And those acts allowed the three and their associates to reciprocate and help the New Republic for years afterwards.

  • @TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH.

    @TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH.

    Ай бұрын

    "QUi-GON WAS PERHAPS THE ONLY 1 WHO WANTED TO HELP THE iNDiViDUAL CiTiZENS" & "HE WAS ABLE TO CONNECT & EMPATHiZE WiTH PEOPLE - A SKiLL OR TRAiT THE JEDi HAD LOST / FORGOTTEN" ABOUT SUMZ iT UP NiCE JOB [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]

  • @Tampertownmediagroup
    @TampertownmediagroupАй бұрын

    Anikin is Qui Gon’s true apprentice

  • @jameshurcombe2049
    @jameshurcombe2049Ай бұрын

    It's human nature that if we feel responsible for someone's actions we take responsibility and redemption is the only thing that gives that person peace of mind

  • @user-yc9vv9xb8s
    @user-yc9vv9xb8sАй бұрын

    So qui gon jinn was the only Jedi who could have would’ve saved Anakin Skywalker helping him fulfill the prophecy of the chosen one Destin to bring balance to the force

  • @Tuturial464

    @Tuturial464

    Ай бұрын

    Or bring balance in a different way

  • @kfsm8369
    @kfsm836910 күн бұрын

    This is why qui gon is my favorite Jedi. He really deserves a movie

  • @robertsarorn6273
    @robertsarorn6273Ай бұрын

    Qui Gon Jinn is the GOAT.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    Qui Gon wouldn't be a scapegoat. if he had raised Anakin himself, having managed to save the boy's mother, take them away from Palpatine from under the nose, choosing the right training method for Anakin, especially to understand those visions. Anakin does was would not need to urgently obtain the title of master in order to gain access to a special section and there look for a way to save others with the help of the light side. And there was no need to turn to Sidious for help with his unnatural methods.

  • @cadeshanley218
    @cadeshanley21828 күн бұрын

    This is beautiful.

  • @djashovel
    @djashovelАй бұрын

    You know, I honestly believe that if anakin left with Ahsoka, the jedi would have still gone after him because he's too powerful to let to go free He would be too much of a risk And there are jedi masters that will agree with that so anakin Would never be truly free

  • @ThoraxetheImpaile100

    @ThoraxetheImpaile100

    Ай бұрын

    I imagine it would be the same if they found out that he was married to Padme. Hell, if the Jedi found out she was pregnant, and Order 66 never happened, I'm sure they'd have too great an interest in Anakin's children.

  • @thewanderingronin5433
    @thewanderingronin5433Ай бұрын

    This video further cements my belief that anakin was destined/fated to fall

  • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
    @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.413427 күн бұрын

    QuiGonJinn was truly a empathic , understanding man who looks at live from bigger then his own view points & opinions which I respect about him highly 👏🏾. This is why QuiGonJinn is one of the only few JEDI in the order of that time period who would have been effective at training Anakin & helping him become the person he is meant to be ✅.

  • @disturbed157
    @disturbed157Ай бұрын

    Well qui gon had a view from a higher dimension.

  • @36inc
    @36incАй бұрын

    my theory is more about the force- i think the force flows like water or the wind through life, exciting the natural elements in all life like midichlorians or whatever- so imagine if all of the good guys trying to serve the force were too resistant to change- bogged down by dogma and fear. so what that does is it plugs up the light- the jedi are getting an extremely small amount of force really fast maybe it causes a physical anxiety because theyre so bogged down that theyre not helping other forms of life- remember what anakin says "if i were a jedi id come back here and free all the slaves" no shit that kid has the force in him its that empathy that smooths the forces flow its why he could wield it so well he wasnt blocked up so the flow is easier to meditate on and run with. qui-gon merely recognized how hes the best conduit hes ever seen. using a fluid metaphor this kinda makes sense hes there to get rid of the damme blockage from the light side and stop the overflow on the other side. the sith are always destroyable they bleed the force theyre idea is block it up so tight its like wielding hydrocannons with psi to cut iron; that would explian why theyre so torn up physically theyre basically trying to keep up with a hydrocutter pace of force. destroying that allows the reset people like luke and so on can thing spring board into a more calm even flow across life. anakin is essentially replacing old infrastructure. and lukes trying to do a more efficient method.

  • @36inc

    @36inc

    Ай бұрын

    so naturally if youre trying to win against someone like that you need to cheat too to keep up. he had to be a sith to end the sith. and since he unblocks his own path in doing so anakin freed alot of metaphorical and real slaves. too bad it wasnt on tatioone though they should really make a skywalker give a shit about that at some point they all just collectively give up on the whole planet. XD

  • @JeffersonLane762
    @JeffersonLane76226 күн бұрын

    I fell the same way about Star Wars itself, that there is some goodness in it and that it can be redeemed.

  • @beaupierrebondurant5651
    @beaupierrebondurant5651Ай бұрын

    On Tatooine.

  • @user-hv1hr8yv7t
    @user-hv1hr8yv7tАй бұрын

    Qui gon was like anakins father. And luke was anakins son. Only a father and son have belief in their fallen family member.

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERSАй бұрын

    THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

  • @unconcernedcitizen4092

    @unconcernedcitizen4092

    Ай бұрын

    This shit is bordering on the unfair.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    The last Jedi Order that missed it the chosen one and brought him up incorrectly was not fair.

  • @reviews.7399
    @reviews.7399Ай бұрын

    I’m more of a Sith fan, but Qui-Gon is my favorite Jedi 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @alanfulford9651
    @alanfulford9651Ай бұрын

    Another reson Qui-Gon-Jin always new is cos when he spoke to him as force goast Darth Vader called him Master so he was still Anikin in his eye's

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    28 күн бұрын

    Qui-Gon was the only Jedi that Darth Vader respected. Of course, for him, Qui-Gon was the real teacher, father and authority. And Kenobi is a strict older brother who never really understood Anakin.

  • @tcurry364
    @tcurry36426 күн бұрын

    It is still my deepest joy and greatest belief that, while Anakin was the ultimate, Quigon was the most connected ever to the force concerning Anakin.

  • @nathanchristman6660
    @nathanchristman6660Ай бұрын

    Did yoda not hint at it in emperor strikes back?

  • @ulfrthewolf5065
    @ulfrthewolf5065Ай бұрын

    Qui guy was just tryna save face

  • @jconnor117
    @jconnor117Ай бұрын

    What to say about Qui-Gon Jinn. He always was two steps ahead of everybody

  • @MrThemelloman
    @MrThemellomanАй бұрын

    0:33 It was always clear to me that the dogmatic views of the jedi order and the freedom of the darkside are what eventually led to him turning. All it would've taken was some compassion and understanding. Even if it was fake (sedious)

  • @mikekochendorfer7965
    @mikekochendorfer7965Ай бұрын

    Like most fan theories, if he survived the duel of fates, qui gon should have left the order to train anakin, with dooku following, to found their own order.

  • @mRibbons
    @mRibbonsАй бұрын

    Qui-Gon had to believe. Being wrong would have been extremely awkward. Especially after Obi-Wan and Yoda became force ghosts.

  • @jeffreykindred9569
    @jeffreykindred9569Ай бұрын

    This should have been the Kenobi series

  • @TheDemonking82
    @TheDemonking82Ай бұрын

    The only other Jedi that should have trained anakin was windu. His ability to control his emotions would have been able to save him from going to the darkness. I honestly wonder how the story would play out if the council had made windu his master would the Jedi have fallen the way they did. Or would it have been a totally different scenario based on a much more battle trained and an even stronger mindset.

  • @gdkopinionator4356
    @gdkopinionator4356Ай бұрын

    The ONLY person who could redeem Anakin was Luke. It had to be someone who could share in Anakin's horror, and come back from it first. That's what Luke did. He gave in to the dark side, he attacked his father and even maimed him. Then he did the one thing that Anakin could not believe was possible: Luke stopped what he was doing, and made the RIGHT decision. Luke showed him that IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT THING! Anakin never believed that was possible until that moment. For all the things that those closest to him said and did, they were never in a position to truly guide Anakin back. Only Luke was. Padme, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda - none of these people had been to the "gates of hell" as Anakin and Luke had. Luke had to fall (momentarily), and come back to himself, to show his father the way.

  • @dawidschaffrath8426

    @dawidschaffrath8426

    Ай бұрын

    I am courious if Qui-gon could have had redeemed Anakin/Vader if he could talk to him for even a brief moment

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    @@dawidschaffrath8426 Yes, he would have helped deal with those visions without letting Anakin fall for Palpatine's manipulations. When Skywalker Senior needed someone to talk to, someone better than the chancellor.

  • @dawidschaffrath8426

    @dawidschaffrath8426

    Ай бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 🙂👍

  • @gdkopinionator4356

    @gdkopinionator4356

    Ай бұрын

    @@dawidschaffrath8426 I think that the key for Anakin, was having an example set for him by someone that he believed really understood everything about the situation he was in.

  • @JamesJones-mt9co
    @JamesJones-mt9coАй бұрын

    Quon Jen was the only Jedi master who had the understanding to trust the force and obey the force. Obi-Wan did not pass that information down to Anakin and what people to understand. Is that talk Anakin Chaka Anakin with more than likely have not followed the Sith and I’m talking about the fourth that teaches you how to hear and be led by the force.

  • @jimdo9797
    @jimdo9797Ай бұрын

    I still believe you, as a friend and mentor! Even if darf vader look like juse sometime 😅

  • @timtam2400
    @timtam2400Ай бұрын

    Unlike the rest of the Jedi Order, who kept teaching Anakin to suppress his feelings and emotions, Qui-Gon could have taught him to better control and work with them.

  • @sassymess7111
    @sassymess7111Ай бұрын

    I don't think Anakin would have turned of Qui-Gon had lived.

  • @jaymilo8425
    @jaymilo842527 күн бұрын

    Only cuz Qui knew it was his fault he got trained in the first place😂

  • @chadflanaganCFC
    @chadflanaganCFCАй бұрын

    It was both imo. While Qui-Gon was right that Anakin could be redeemed, he never should of pushed Anakin's training on Obi-Wan personally I think the one who should of trained Anakin is ironically Dooku prior to his joining the Sith Order.

  • @kianamarrie
    @kianamarrieАй бұрын

    I would love to see a World Between Worlds alternate universe where Qui-Gon is there to raise and train Anakin. If certain crucial events still played out such as Anakin being a Shatterpoint himself, I believe it could be a good plot line. Having Qui-Gon be so dope feels like a waste, even though his fate was well-placed by George Lucas from the start.

  • @smugplush

    @smugplush

    Ай бұрын

    World Between Worlds was and still is a mistake.

  • @TheMerciless187
    @TheMerciless187Ай бұрын

    As the chosen one Anakin of prophesied to bring balance to the Force. The prophecy never specified how he to do it or how he ended up doing it. The Jedi council thought he was going to be this Jedi super hero, and Darth Sidious thought he won by turning the chosen one in to his personal tool of destruction. Both sides thought wrong. 🤷🏿😂

  • @megadethantho98
    @megadethantho98Ай бұрын

    I think Ahsoka believe Anakin deserves redemption but she thinks he is too far gone because she understands exactly how he felt the whole time, which can be seen in her own series. Only his true father, his true sister and his son believed he deserved redemption after all he did.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    28 күн бұрын

    All his actions were the will of the Force, which the others did not know. The chosen one was just playing his role in the play of the universe.

  • @tomuch4u969
    @tomuch4u969Ай бұрын

    Ashoka tries to redeem Vader I. Rebels

  • @DefileOdds
    @DefileOddsАй бұрын

    Was it the will of the force for vader to strike down all those younglings during order 66.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    Yes. She wanted to destroy both the Jedi and the Sith to restore balance. Orden Jedi was rotten and had to be changed at the root. Luke ended up building orden better than he was by learning the lessons of the past and where past Jedi made mistakes. The Younglings at least found peace without knowing that things could have been much worse while Sidious was in power.

  • @samdickenson5852
    @samdickenson5852Ай бұрын

    What if Qui Gon spoke with Luke, encouraging him to redeem Vader?

  • @mikemckague9506
    @mikemckague9506Ай бұрын

    I personally believe if Qui-Gon had not been killed Anakin would never turned to the dark side 🤷‍♂️

  • @tylerc4229
    @tylerc422928 күн бұрын

    Obi wan had two opportunities to kill the guy and didn't do it

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    28 күн бұрын

    He clearly didn't regret leaving Vader alive when Anakin saved Luke and fulfilled the prophecy. Kenobi's instincts told him not to kill Anakin but to trust the will of the Force, following Qui-Gon's example.

  • @jacobholly2096
    @jacobholly2096Ай бұрын

    Because he believed in Anakin for who he is , not what he is. Anyone can be the chosen one but if you don't have faith and trust in that person then you'd rather be in the dark side yourself.

  • @aliastheabnormal
    @aliastheabnormalАй бұрын

    Well, if Yoda taught Luke tutumenis. Then maybe he could have killed Vader.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    The Force needed Anakin to he survive and fulfill his destiny. It is unknown how the story would have developed further if her plans had was disrupted by those who saw Vader as a Sith who needed to be killed and not saved. Although it's just a victim of circumstances.

  • @aliastheabnormal

    @aliastheabnormal

    Ай бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 Yeah, but for someone who wanted the perfect assassin. Yoda botched it hard.

  • @benkenobi6626
    @benkenobi6626Ай бұрын

    I think obi wan did the best he could with what he had. He may Not have been the father figure anakin needed but he was always a great friend that anakin could rely on.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    But he wasn't a brother who would be around, would not have brushed him off, but helped, listened, supported him when Anakin needed a better person than the chancellor to whom he could trust, speak out, be understood, and consult. Especially about those visions.

  • @samuelrobles3737
    @samuelrobles3737Ай бұрын

    Day 485 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon

  • @thomasparque7834
    @thomasparque7834Ай бұрын

    I think Qui-Gon was right to have faith that Anakin can be redeemed just like Luke, though like Luke he should more willing to hold Anakin accountable for his crimes and actions as Darth Vader.

  • @dawidschaffrath8426

    @dawidschaffrath8426

    Ай бұрын

    It depends if we treat Vader/Anakin like he truly is… a Force God (like Jesus) then… I don’t think mortals can hold God for accountability.

  • @dawidschaffrath8426

    @dawidschaffrath8426

    Ай бұрын

    But also this is the best… that we can see and judge Anakin/Vader as we like. We can see Anakin’s as a God of the Force/Son of the Force or I don’t know… maybe… gifted mortal. That’s the beauty of Star Wars 🙂

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    There were no crimes. Vader was fulfilling the will of the Force and his destiny. His fate was sealed. On the contrary, it is good that Anakin became a ghost of power in order to help others not to repeat his mistakes, knowing from personal experience what the dark side can lead to. Even if he just wanted to become stronger, save and protect his loved ones.

  • @greezythumb
    @greezythumb26 күн бұрын

    Only QGJ understood bringing the force into balance meant no sith and no Jedi. Everything Palps said about the Jedi was true. Anakin was born for one purpose... Clean house.

  • @Guntrap861
    @Guntrap861Ай бұрын

    From 3:35 to 4:05, words of surpassing wisdom! Remarkable video!

  • @Guntrap861

    @Guntrap861

    28 күн бұрын

    @Te.legr.am_the_stupendouswave ???

  • @djashovel
    @djashovelАй бұрын

    Anakin Should have left the jedi And left that Galaxy behind If he ever wanted to be truly free but His entire life, he was never free He went to master to master never really. Getting true freedom

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    He gained freedom after death by becoming a ghost of power.

  • @philipfarnan4188
    @philipfarnan4188Ай бұрын

    As a Starwars fan this drives me mad....he should not have been turned back to the light....he did too much evil (younglings).

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    28 күн бұрын

    He was only fulfilling the will of the Force who created him as a fighter against the Sith, to which he returned after he fulfilled the task assigned to him by it -to restore balance which was disrupted by the confrontation between the Jedi and the Sith. The Younglings could have suffered a more terrible fate while Sidious was in power. Their lives could have ended even worse if they had fallen into the hands of the Imperials. As if you don't understand it yourself? And you think like a person who does not make the decision senior management like of the Force that decides in the world of Star Wars. So at least they found peace. Vader showed mercy from a certain point of view. They are lucky that they did not learn what the Inquisition and the imperial army are from the Sith point of view. How did their training method differ from that of the Jedi. Why did they take force-sensitive children. Lucas created a fairy tale with a happy ending saying that: It's never too late to change your lifestyle. Anakin grew up after going through his thorny path, became wiser, admitted that he was wrong, rethought a lot, starting to appreciate the life of a Jedi more, comparing the experience gained in both factions. And Skywalker Sr. himself is not to blame that he was not brought up correctly, did not help in time, did not listen, did not understand, left alone with his problems, missed a person with borderline personality disorder in which, due to negative events, the dark side woke up and began to vent Anakin's anger, pain, resentment and disappointment on others.

  • @user-qp2jp7zb6l
    @user-qp2jp7zb6lАй бұрын

    Obi wan failed anakin to prepare and succeed with luke

  • @rueceless7580
    @rueceless7580Ай бұрын

    Well if all the pain and suffering caused by Vader's actions were the will of the force then maybe its time to stop looking at the Sith as the problem and maybe time to start looking at the force it's self. Maybe it's less a balancing force of life and more an Eldritch Horror. =P

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    It is difficult for people to understand and make decisions of the highest authority. When she decided to restore balance in this way by destroying both the Jedi and the Sith and bring order to the galaxy. Otherwise, people have completely dissolved with slavery, corruption, injustice, smugglers, underground organizations, failed military, mafiosi, etc

  • @rueceless7580

    @rueceless7580

    Ай бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 Time to destroy the force. =P

  • @jasonabrams639
    @jasonabrams639Ай бұрын

    I still believe that Anakin is the chosen one, if just for the fact that he fathered Luke. Anakin, with all his numerous unforgivable sins.. still was able to produce a heir and deliver him to his master.. to rid the galaxy of the malevolent tyrant Palpatine...

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    Anakin was the chosen one with his destiny. It's just that both sides misunderstood the prophecy. The Jedi thought it was necessary to destroy the Sith. The Yellow-eyeds adherents of the dark side believed that it was necessary to destroy the Jedi, not knowing that both fractions should be eliminated according to the plans of the Force.

  • @Nobody11111
    @Nobody1111129 күн бұрын

    He was still wrong for putting anakin on obi wan. Against the entire Jedi order where everyone said no, obi wan said no. Openly disobeying, then having his dying wish be for him to take on anakin, selfish. There is no justifying the actions that came after

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    28 күн бұрын

    Qui-Gon, as always, followed the will of the Force to raise the chosen one who would fulfill the prophecy. Although I agree that it would be better if he did not take Anakin to the order at all, knowing that the boy would not be suitable for training, how he would be treated. And it would have been better if Jinn had trained him himself by choosing a more correct method. He could would to protect and saved Anakin's mother and ensured her safety, taking them away from Palpatine. Moreover, he could would helped his student to understand those visions in time so that he would not follow an undesirable path for the Jedi.

  • @RoboRope
    @RoboRopeАй бұрын

    Did Darth Vader hate QuiGon?

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    28 күн бұрын

    No. Qui-Gon was the only Jedi the dark Lord respected.

  • @hemansteve
    @hemansteveАй бұрын

    Luke was technically a Jedi and also believed in Anakin so your title is wrong.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    Luke brought to life Qui-Gon's belief that Anakin could be saved and returned to the bright side.

  • @hemansteve

    @hemansteve

    Ай бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 Luke never met Qui Gon. It’s possible Yoda talked about him but considering Yoda wasn’t a Qui Gon fan, nor an Anakin fan and he despised Vader … I doubt it.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    @@hemansteve Yes, Luke did not meet Qui-Gon, but he found notes about him in Kenobi's diary and made his own in a diary that became a textbook for the new order. But I have no doubt that they would quickly find a common language if they met. Although they can still get to know each other in the afterlife and make friends because they they are similar in spirit like peacemakers. Yoda's opinion of Anakin has clearly changed after the former dark lord's redemption. And they now have plenty of time for this grand master, along with Kenobi and Anakin, to eventually resolve past differences, learn from mistakes and no longer commit them, continuing to stick together, look after and support Anakin as a his new family so that he no longer feels lonely, misunderstood and rejected. In addition to Qui-Gon, who became father to Anakin, keeping his brother and "grandfather" company, who resumed communication with Skywalker Sr. after realizing that they themselves were to blame for the tragic events that occurred.

  • @hemansteve

    @hemansteve

    Ай бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 Which piece of content are you referencing when Luke reads Kenobi's diary?

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    @@hemansteve On legends from the expanded universe. There, Luke created a new order and there was no such twist as in the Disney trilogy.

  • @DeathScepter
    @DeathScepterАй бұрын

    Keep in mind that Obi wan did his best with Anakin and one of the reasons why Anakin stayed in the light while being a Jedi.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    Qui-Gon would have been more suitable for Anakin as a teacher who would have chosen a more suitable method of teaching him, bringing up a real Jedi from him following the instincts and paths of the force, treating the code differently. Kenobi was clearly not suited for such an extraordinary occasion.

  • @DeathScepter

    @DeathScepter

    Ай бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 Plo Koon and Qui Gon had the patience to deal with Anakin's baggage while teaching Anakin self control.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    @@DeathScepter But he was not taught to control the dark side, which eventually got the better of him, although it was eventually defeated by him. Moreover, to resist the manipulations of the same Palpatine.

  • @StetzMusic
    @StetzMusicАй бұрын

    I love Ani !

  • @darthsidius9631
    @darthsidius9631Ай бұрын

    Well if Obi wan listened to will of the force and that's why didn't kill Anakin he shouldn't have let him burn.

  • @mariusconstantin6057

    @mariusconstantin6057

    Ай бұрын

    Jedi Rebellion is a fanfic that shows what might have happened if Qui-Gon appeared before Obi-Wan and gave him advice

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, Plagueis saw a cyborg in a dark suit in the future. Although it is unknown what would have happened if Kenobi had reasoned with Anakin with words and returned to the bright side earlier.

  • @thomasb.anderson8113
    @thomasb.anderson8113Ай бұрын

    ahem... Luke Skywalker... ahem

  • @Lanwarder
    @LanwarderАй бұрын

    'Cause he was dead anyway

  • @darthsidius9631
    @darthsidius9631Ай бұрын

    What if Obi wan killed Anakin and went to even darker path than Anakin?

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    Then there would be unpredictable consequences for the galaxy if the chosen one died without fulfilling his destiny.

  • @dondahlen1654
    @dondahlen1654Ай бұрын

    I still think legends content was better. I still don't know how I feel about the chosen one stuff.

  • @robm6726
    @robm6726Ай бұрын

    Well, Vader did destroy the sith... for a time

  • @80sMoviesRule1
    @80sMoviesRule1Ай бұрын

    We just going to ignore that Luke a Jedi… redeemed him?

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    No. Luke embodied the hope of the late Qui-Gon to bring Anakin back to the bright side.

  • @80sMoviesRule1

    @80sMoviesRule1

    Ай бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 how? Luke had no autonomy? Qui just took over his body? Or maybe Qui wasn’t the only Jedi…. Which makes the title of this incorrect.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    @@80sMoviesRule1 They were similar in outlook and both believed that Anakin could be redeemed, unlike Yoda and Kenobi. Qui-Gon believed in Anakin, saying this in a conversation with Obi-Wan, like a ghost. Luke brought his father back to the bright side by bringing Qui-Gon's faith to life is a certain point of view, as Obi-Wan would say.

  • @80sMoviesRule1

    @80sMoviesRule1

    Ай бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 still…. Wasn’t… the ….only… Jedi…. There was another.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    @@80sMoviesRule1Here it is already unclear who Yoda was referring to: Leia or Anakin, who returned to the light.

  • @ghostface4404
    @ghostface4404Ай бұрын

    it didn't matter. Obi-Wan was a product of the Jed. so, it didn't matter who trained Anakin.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    It had. If the Jedi really wanted to realize their version of the prophecy with the destruction of the Sith by the hands of the chosen one, they would have given Anakinan training to a more strict and experienced teacher who would have knocked the fool out of the guy's head, bringing up disciplined, wise and balanced. Like Windows, for example, or the same Yoda. And it would be better if Qui-Gon, along with Dooku, raised Anakin to be a real Jedi who would not lose control of the dark side.

  • @ghostface4404

    @ghostface4404

    Ай бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 they Jedi were already too strict -- that was the whole issue! plus, it would've been a perverted version... Like everything else regarding the Jedi. As for Dooku, he was already losing his way around that time.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    @@ghostface4404 Dooku became disillusioned with the past rotten Jedi order. But he and Qui-Gon could create their own order together, where they would teach Anakin to be a real Jedi following the will of the force and instincts, treating that old code differently. Perhaps they, like Luke, would have created later create their own code that is more humane and humane, not making others unhappy.

  • @ghostface4404

    @ghostface4404

    Ай бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 no, they were not equipped to do what they desired. That dream belongs to Sabine. The Mandalorian values are the tools that would create the order and the galaxy that the likes of Dooku and Anakin sought the things that Mandalorians prize would make the galaxy stronger, more united, more just, more secure, more morally upright and more prosperous. As a warrior race -- the Mandalorians would be better suited to protect the galaxy. I also believe that Sabine could be the most powerful Force users that there ever was. Those with a strong connection to the Force always had great empathy and compassion -- Sabine's most transparent traits. and as a Mandalorian, she'll never stop growing -- her potential is limitless. Who knows what Force techniques that she'll create. I've come to believe that the only way to truly shape the galaxy is through Mandalorian values -- Shae and those who support her shown me what they could be. That's why unlike many, I was all in with Sabine being trained.

  • @James-mx1pr
    @James-mx1prАй бұрын

    I guess Luke skywalker in the go trilogy doesn’t count?? Lmao

  • @Darth_Sheepus_the_wise
    @Darth_Sheepus_the_wiseАй бұрын

    First

  • @zyno1x42
    @zyno1x42Ай бұрын

    second

  • @SyfoMan
    @SyfoManАй бұрын

    This is why I never liked Anakin as a character. Dude can eat Babies and still be forgiven.

  • @pingamalinga
    @pingamalingaАй бұрын

    Luke doesn't count? Nvm. 😅

  • @BrickDaniels-qu7bz

    @BrickDaniels-qu7bz

    Ай бұрын

    Luke doesn't count.

  • @pingamalinga

    @pingamalinga

    Ай бұрын

    @@BrickDaniels-qu7bz Yeah when i started the video that was the starter. 😁

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    Luke brought to life the hope of the late Qui-Gon that Anakin could be saved and returned to the bright side.

  • @pingamalinga

    @pingamalinga

    28 күн бұрын

    @@kseniaboytseva4714 Yeah I think it was all the will of the force in order to bring balance. The use of 2 generations and the love between father and son. Just all those within the arc misinterpreted the prophecy. How could they have known?

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    28 күн бұрын

    @@pingamalinga Yes, both the Jedi and the Sith misinterpreted the prophecy, not knowing that the Force would want to destroy both of these factions. Therefore, it was right, following the example of the wise Qui-Gon, to simply trust her.

  • @user-uk3gk6rf7v
    @user-uk3gk6rf7vАй бұрын

    I feel like the sith need a major overhauling cause this Stockholm syndrome shit isn’t believable

  • @timothyvanderschultzen9640
    @timothyvanderschultzen9640Ай бұрын

    Rae was the chosen one. Anakin was a dead end.

  • @kseniaboytseva4714

    @kseniaboytseva4714

    Ай бұрын

    No. Palpatine officially died in episode 6. Next is not a new Lucas trilogy, but nonsense from Disney. In the expanded universe, events unfold differently without this scavenger Rey. Anakin is still the chosen one who fulfilled the prophecy.

  • @RogerKrow78
    @RogerKrow78Ай бұрын

    I require legal representation against KZread

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