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@lanudevanandam9442

6 жыл бұрын

Never liked start/stop systems, doesn't look efficient and it already seemed like it did more wear and tear in a shorter timespan

@mechanicsteve2320

6 жыл бұрын

Scotty Kilmer 100% agree with you Scotty!!!

@konstantinosathanasiou8900

6 жыл бұрын

Does this tech, affect the spark plugs?

@DS-TRUCKS

6 жыл бұрын

This is the smartes old guy in the world!

@25566

6 жыл бұрын

you just said what i thought the first time i saw a car with this system. that can't be good for the engine... Thank god it can be disabled

In other words buy a silver 1987 Toyota Celica.

@TacoBurgalur

6 жыл бұрын

Zoinks Tempted to import one from Europe. The st205 gt-four sells for cheap over there if you find one

@sergiorosales1689

6 жыл бұрын

Jean-Paul Gonzalez good luck getting it thru customs

@Janitcka

6 жыл бұрын

1987?

@TacoBurgalur

6 жыл бұрын

Sergio Rosales you can if it is 25 years old it's 2018 so any car from 93 are eligible. By the time I get my degree I should be able to get one

@juanzingarello4005

6 жыл бұрын

Or buy one with the shutoff switch and leave it off. Never use it.

People walking by when Scotty records, proof Scotty is from this realm

@kirara4953

6 жыл бұрын

Erwin Schrödinger The land of fixing.

@MrMetalclay

6 жыл бұрын

Probably startling the people waking by while yelling at us for his KZread videos.

@kirara4953

6 жыл бұрын

MrMetalclay yeab

@xFlared

6 жыл бұрын

Imagine the neighbors. "Goddamn it. It's 6am and Scotty is screaming into the cam like a maniac again."

@kirara4953

6 жыл бұрын

Admiral Ackbar I know right

I love how they put a button to stop it. But it goes back on by default. They should allow you to decide if you want it on all the time or not.

@thatperson2508

Жыл бұрын

Amen to that. Can't stand it when I forget to turn it off.

@rickyprisbrey

6 ай бұрын

@@thatperson2508same here

@HOTRODRICO

4 ай бұрын

"they" H8 us all.. they are now encrypting ECUs so no one can program a car anymore

@mysparkselectricalinstalla4269

Ай бұрын

Can switch it to off on start up with OBDeleven so you manually have to turn it on

@richardsmith5941

Ай бұрын

Last BMW I drove stayed off when turned off, even after restart.

Funny enough. I canceled a order on a new Subaru because I couldn’t permanently disable this feature. Found this video later. It really reinforces my concern.

@brockbaby

3 жыл бұрын

I just drove a rental car with this feature. WORST EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE. It's a deal breaker for me too! NO Fing way.

@apexjones4733

2 жыл бұрын

you can permanently disable them tho lol

@christopheromeara689

2 жыл бұрын

@@apexjones4733 but you can’t permanently disable them. According to the dealer.

@Michael-ys5cn

2 жыл бұрын

Good for you! Nobody buy this crap!

@Spills51

2 жыл бұрын

Just pull the fuse....feature disabled 😉😉

I remember when I first learned about some cars having this auto stop/start, I immediately thought of how much wear that would put on the starter. Pretty sure replacing a starter will cost more than whatever you save on gas.

@tommytruth7595

4 жыл бұрын

It will, and they have a special battery too.

@DaleC1980

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but the counter to that is the starter is more robust ti compensate. But the counter to THAT is that to really save a lot of gas, you will be using the feature a LOT which will really cauae wear on the relevant components. No easy answer I guess

@peters8181

2 жыл бұрын

😆 🤣 😂 this guy doesn't know anything about cars in 2010s and newer engineer made sure its designed to work properly. especially a bmw

@jceggbert5

2 жыл бұрын

A warm, lubricated engine takes less to restart than a cold, dry one.

@zkjohn4470

Жыл бұрын

and PLUS the cost about rebuilt your engine

Car companies hate Scotty Kilmer! But we love his knowledge!

@kevincraig1243

5 жыл бұрын

Howard Rodriguez not a car company in the world is worried about him. Especially with all the gross inaccuracies in most of his videos.

@Gheorghe99

4 жыл бұрын

@@kevincraig1243 - The only people who love his knowledge are people who are under the impression he is very knowledgeable when in fact talks very fast about stuff he has no idea. Car manufactures care less about him - for example, Kia and Hyundai posted record number last year - cars who Scotty bad-mouths daily and tell people no to buy. I occasionally watch some of his videos for the entertaining factor. He makes me laugh and I give him credit for the confidence he has talking about things he doesn't understands.

@wesjohnson5019

4 жыл бұрын

Hands on with cars is the best way to figure out which one are crap or not. Top cars all time honda Toyota hands down. Push to start and stop start technology is 100% unreliable

@effend446

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gheorghe99 Scotty knows more than you think. And as to why Hyundai and KIA posted record sales last year? People get hooked on style and emotion. As they say, there's a sucker born every minute.

@hughaxton

3 жыл бұрын

test

Sitting next to them at red lights, I always wonder how many starters they go through. Good advice as usual from Scotty.

@rogermartinez5896

5 жыл бұрын

System doesn't use a starter. It's a reversible alternator.

@leeg3784

4 жыл бұрын

And manufacturers and experts that test and review vehicles all say this is coming and people will have to accept it. Most GM's have it and slowly many manufacturers are starting to put them into their vehicles. Honda, Toyota, Jeep, Chevy, Buick, GmC, Cadillac, Hyundai, etc.

@wesjohnson5019

4 жыл бұрын

@@leeg3784 just ask for one with out it. They will still be around. You can get 2019 that arent push start also

@Jon-zj2nj

4 жыл бұрын

Mary Reed From they way that you’ve written that, it looks like you’ve never owned one, although you’ve accepted Scotty’s advice as accurate. I’ve owned 6 cars with it fitted, over a total of 8 1/2 years and over 300,000 miles. Total number of mechanical failures and replacement starter motors required over that time? Zero. Why assume that Scotty gives “good advice as usual”?

@martyharless5097

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jon-zj2nj 50000 miles per car isn't really evidence of long-term reliability is it?

It’s about time someone said STOP to the STOP START feature. I have it & disabled it immediately. Thanks Scotty!

@UKnowBo

3 жыл бұрын

How can I do this to my 2019 Ford Edge? Is it difficult?

@zachsteele6964

3 жыл бұрын

@@UKnowBo just look online, it shouldn't be too hard.

@aidenroose3246

2 жыл бұрын

I hate stop start stupidness too

It is about time someone said what a bad idea this is.

@reacp9114

4 жыл бұрын

still fighting the unleaded gas war?

@TheLifetraveler1

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately no one told General Motors. They were the only car manufacturer that I dealt with as a rental car employee, where you could not deactivate the start-stop system.

@tommytruth7595

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheLifetraveler1 They will all be like that in the future. The govt. is going to force all of us into electric cars and trucks.

@nikunjmajithia5002

4 жыл бұрын

@@reacp9114 hey man my mum said to give the car a drive as it's been sitting idle/engine is off though during corna virus period I know nothing bad is gonna happen but how to convince her and my cousin that nothing bad is gonna happen

@nikunjmajithia5002

4 жыл бұрын

@@reacp9114 I will start driving it after a month but I don't think any point in taking it for a drive until I need it again

My 93 cutlas had that feature. It would turn off at a red light and turn on when i cranked it for 10 min...

@timewa851

6 жыл бұрын

you & your stalled '93 blocked a car with a three year old & now that kid is an automotive engineer! it's your fault this stop/start tech happened!

@guildrich

6 жыл бұрын

John Wyskochil XD

@stashouse617

6 жыл бұрын

😂

@jasoncentore1830

6 жыл бұрын

That happened to me with every 1980's car I owned... Maybe ahead of technology..LOL

@wendykoh9801

6 жыл бұрын

Yea but nowadays it's way diff. You can barely feel the start stop in my 2016 car and it starts surprising fast. At traffic light, 9 out of 10 my car will outrun any car at the start of a green light. It is a tech world now.

Gas savings is quickly eaten up by increased cost of fixing starter and battery.

@sveddish

5 жыл бұрын

The goal is to save the environment, not your money!

@Beowulf95

5 жыл бұрын

And difficult to design the ECUs

@Boosted_aj

4 жыл бұрын

js not the goal but ok

@sveddish

4 жыл бұрын

@@Boosted_aj yeah it is, why do you think emissions regulations are made stricter each year or so? why do you think the price of fuel increases?

@rodericfabian1785

4 жыл бұрын

The starter and battery in these cars are designed to do the start stop thing, The starter is heavy duty. In the Ford Fusion they use a big AGM battery, which is tolerant of frequent starts. I don't doubt that the increased complexity of cars as they try to wring more gas mileage out of them is going to contributed to problems, but they have made an effort to mitigate this.

I have a 2020 Toyota Highlander, wore my battery out in 3 years. Toyota wanted $420 to replace it. I bought a Interstate AGM for $190. I always disable the start/stop when I start the car. What a PIA.

Absolutely annoying feature

@indridcold8433

5 жыл бұрын

Whoever thought it would be a good idea to let an engine go to zero oil pressure and restart over and over is stupid.

@creflowsdollabill9359

5 жыл бұрын

Just another tactic to make the car wear out faster

@mikebarbier1519

4 жыл бұрын

My daughter’s new Jeep Grand Cherokee has it. You can turn it off to disable it.

@Roadshopaudio

4 жыл бұрын

There is an interface that overrides the stop start feature. It covers 2015 and up Ford and Chrysler vehicles. Its made by Axxess, Axx-SSO.

@bruceballygar4880

4 жыл бұрын

Not only that but you go so much more slowly.

I love how in every video he discretely shows how much he dislikes Mercedes Benz by displaying their cars and logos when he talks about a negative aspect of a car

@tez_foe4382

5 жыл бұрын

@Michael Henkle , How Much Did The Repair Cost For The Head Gasket Replacement ?

@idooopstv9823

5 жыл бұрын

@@tez_foe4382 Head gasket isn't too expensive.

@Belbivdevoe

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Henkle you obviously haven't had a new one with a CVT

@RetroWolf13

4 жыл бұрын

It's a BMW

@rebelduck9077

4 жыл бұрын

Rude. they're awesome cars (yes, I own one) :-) ;-) tee hee. But mine is a 2015 without the start/stop technology. That would drive me up the wall.

I always wondered about the start stop feature. Especially at night in the winter. Sitting in traffic with the heat, radio, lights and the kids in the back watching Frozen. The battery is definitely going to take some abuse there. And I feel these cars contribute to the traffic light congestion by increasing the time it takes for the line to start moving.

@robbieshaft

Жыл бұрын

All wrong there

@joecoffee968

11 ай бұрын

Definitely

@DickDebonaire

8 ай бұрын

I think people turning left when there's oncoming traffic are being involved in horrible accidents. That extra second or two waiting for acceleration to make the turn can make all the difference. Wait till these cars are 20 to 30 year old clunkers and take a few (or several) seconds to start each time

@BusyB07

5 ай бұрын

Very good points. Though the main reason for congestion/delay is the operator nowadays

This almost killed me it shut off when I was trying to pull out into busy traffic. All it takes is a split second and ur dead. I will never forget that night. This is definitely one of the worst things ever done to cars.

@josephhradil86

4 жыл бұрын

Trevor Graham if your cutting it to a split second your the danger, not your car.

@wesjohnson5019

4 жыл бұрын

@@josephhradil86 ???😒 stop and start is the worst idea

@rickmanley767

4 жыл бұрын

I have one in my F150, and there is virtually no hesitation at all.

@charlesborlase2238

4 жыл бұрын

If you know the car does this, seems like one would plan ahead to turn the feature off if timing really matters. I think the feature should be opt in rather than opt out, or at least configurable. Most today seem to be ‘on’ every time the car is turned on.

@PsycheHED

3 жыл бұрын

is this the Forester? how were you trying to pull out into busy traffic? did you hit the brakes instead of the throttle? the engine only "stops" when you hit the brakes

So when the stop starting system starts stopping, you'll start paying tons of money to stop the stop starting issue, so prevent it by stopping the use of the start stopping feature.

@seymoronion8371

6 жыл бұрын

🤔 👍

@frankburns8871

6 жыл бұрын

I'm going to start stopping stop/start immediately. Full stop.

@MrScoobieman

5 жыл бұрын

Frank Burns I’m done with my start stop immediately! I don’t want my stop start to stop starting 😂

@Cutlerypotato

5 жыл бұрын

Don't start with me man

@justinopinion4016

5 жыл бұрын

Oh stop

Start stop is just as stupid as electric retractable door handles.

@TrentGreene24

4 жыл бұрын

The door handles are kinda cool but super unpractical

@purphuttv4912

4 жыл бұрын

Two words Aero dynamics

@Jon-zj2nj

4 жыл бұрын

Purphut TV Strictly speaking “aerodynamics” is one word 🙄

@garystump5680

4 жыл бұрын

They are cool untill your battery dies or they completely stop working for what ever reason

@JAfonsoNunesMartins10

3 жыл бұрын

@@garystump5680 you're probably right for some cars but at least in Teslas they have an emergency system to open the door handles if you have no power

I've always said that start/stop technology is like sitting down everytime you have to stop.. all that effort to stand back up again is extra hard work and energy you don't need to use...

@lvgio

2 жыл бұрын

that’s not true for cars tho. it’s only efficient to keep your engine running if your stopped for less than around 10 seconds many scientific studies have showed this, whereas i doubt you have any scientific study/prove

I have shared this video with numerous people! All cars have the stop start feature now! I would NEVER buy a car, that doesnt have a button to “TO TURN OFF” THIS ANNOYING FEATURE (STOP START ENGINE!!!) THIS IS A GREAT VIDEO!!!!! Thank you!!!

@Prime-nf5yy

Жыл бұрын

LOL

for the 3-10% increase in fuel economy you achieve turning the engine off and on instead of idling, you wear the starter out up to 60% faster

@tommytruth7595

4 жыл бұрын

And wait until you have to replace it. $$$$$$$$ compared to a regular starter.

@ClericalConsequences

3 жыл бұрын

It’s probably closer to 0.3-1%

@psilocybemusashi

Жыл бұрын

@@ClericalConsequences exactly i bet 40% of the time it starts/stops it actually uses more gas than if it just sat idle.

@1gbayfisher

Жыл бұрын

Dumbest thing ever, cant believe it. Theres no way it saves 10% , and i would bet my house that its not even 3% at best

@JohnDavis-yz9nq

Жыл бұрын

@@1gbayfisher I would not bet against you. Stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Thinking about just getting a horse. I can manually start and stop my horse.

I swear “why not to buy a car” will come up soon

@Humza5000

6 жыл бұрын

Lol

@rashadvq

6 жыл бұрын

William Peng lmao

@livewireOrourke

6 жыл бұрын

At least you won't have to worry about changing an alternator with a horse and buggy.

@finncampeau4922

6 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 😂

@yannickfinesaute1521

6 жыл бұрын

I swear man. The trend of new cars will surely be start and stop and it is just the beginning

Thanks for backing me up Scotty. My wife's been trying to talk me into buying a car with auto stop-start, and I've been making these same arguments to her. She's not believing me. But she'll believe you.

Scotty , you are so right! Its very logical that gas engines are not designed for that type of system. That such a great point. Fortunately , that is a feature that can be programmed off in some cars. Thanks for your wisdom !!

The annoyance factor is what kills it for me. I'd never buy a vehicle with this feature until it's impossible not to. And even then I might just go back to a horse and buggy.

@gtrsuite

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. Annoyance alone is reason to avoid and run the other way.....

@JohnJohn-hd3qu

5 жыл бұрын

You can turn it off on most cars though...

@Diddyshaow

4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnJohn-hd3qu Yes, every single time you get into the car you would have to press the button. It is on by default.

@redcloud5813

4 жыл бұрын

I rented a car with this feature and I swore I would never buy a car with this "technology ". Besides being annoying it's dangerous if you're trying to turn left against oncoming traffic!

@josephhradil86

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Rojo How so? You might lose 1/10th of a second when it restarts. If you’re cutting your turns that tight the danger is you, not your car.

I always thought this seemed obvious...as always, thanks, Scotty!

I just bought a 2019 Toyota Highlander XLE with this feature. When I took it in for the 5K checkup, I asked the mechanic if start/stop would hurt the vehicle over the long term. He said that they are now engineered with this feature in mind, but I just never felt good about it - still a mechanical action that happens MANY times. Now I am certain to deactivate it everytime I crank her up. Thanks Scotty!

I saw a newer Chevy Impala shut off in front of me at a red light, the light turned green, the Impala tried to start up but couldn't. I helped him push his new car across the street to the gas station with my old truck. A lot of these new cars got that system now.

@airconditionerfan9895

6 жыл бұрын

That was nice of you 😀!

@nosoupforyou7995

6 жыл бұрын

RoyalKingA73 The stop/start system is really stupid , having your engine shut off every time you stop at a red light is going to make something go bad sooner than later. It might be ok for the electric cars but not for gasoline engines.

@MadJDMTurboBoost

6 жыл бұрын

Herbert Andrade why are you just reiterating what was said in the video? Like if that isn’t the most pointless comment I’ve ever seen, then I’m at a loss because why on earth would you need to say that if everyone here has CLEARLY seen the video

@BRANDT409

6 жыл бұрын

I think he meant to say Hybrid too. Because I don't think an E.V would have a start up like a Hybrid or normal gasoline engine.

@JDMHaze

6 жыл бұрын

RoyalKingA73 Funny you said that, one of my coworkers has a Malibu and the same thing happened

Annoying...Shows a picture of Gilbert Godfrey hahaha. Great video! I hate being in a stop/start vehicle

Good video! Plateau the emissions graph without reducing emissions, all while passing the repair cost onto customers. Good sidestep around regulations, more garbage to break and trips to the dealer to spend money, genius idea!

You don’t have to be a GENIUS or a MECHANIC to know that this is a bad idea.

@lukesegars5466

4 жыл бұрын

Ron S. - Right!

@erichg.6235

4 жыл бұрын

1. I do after starting my car -switch off the start/stop automatic. Driving to my office 5 miles) I have to stop around 15 times (red light, stop- and go traffic etc) - it can't be good for the engine to bei stopped and startet so many times.

@SketchRC

4 жыл бұрын

Modern engines are built for auto start stop. Engineers know these issues and they resolve them by modifying oil pumps, starters, alternators, and batteries to cope with the extra cycles. I don’t understand why auto start stop is a bad idea, but hey, maybe that’s because I’m an automotive engineer and I know more than most people about this stuff.

@erichg.6235

4 жыл бұрын

OK, its good for the engine and the battery (aircon keeps running while start/stop is active, music and light is on) to start and stop every 2 or 3 minutes in stop-and go traffic. Even I stick an hour or longer in a traffic jam. Mhh, no, mr. engineer, i don't use start/stop automatic. In a year 1000 or more times starting the Motor, in 10 years more then 10.000 unnecessary starting the engine?

@SketchRC

4 жыл бұрын

beckys2222 By that logic, we should have hand cranks on all of our cars to start them. Things don’t just break randomly. An auto start stop will be designed for the same life as a regular starter motor system. It’ll break just as quickly as whatever you’ve got.

Thank you!!!! I have noticed this on new cars and thought it was a bad idea. You just confirmed my fears. It violates the Kiss principle in many ways.

Scotty’s advice: buy a Toyota Prius if you want stop / start.

@damonmiller8118

5 жыл бұрын

I have a 2011 Prius they're awesome I've had no mechanical issues and I have a hundred 105000 thousand miles on it

@KiwiMaker

4 жыл бұрын

Yet in his other video he says “don’t buy a Prius” haha well I have one and won’t go back to a non hybrid again!

@tomcapehart1878

4 жыл бұрын

I have a Chevy volt. Absolutely love it. Maybe ten dollars in gas a week, sometimes 20-30 if I take a weekend trip. Even on gas I get 45+ mpg.

@christophers5510

3 жыл бұрын

@@KiwiMaker do not buy a USED Prius

@qdllc

2 жыл бұрын

Glad he explained the difference and what would be needed to make it work as intended.

All my cars have had stop start for the last 10 years. I've never had a problem with any of them.

@MW-uh1xv

3 жыл бұрын

@Sasha Braus ha?

@80s_Boombox_Collector

29 күн бұрын

Because they weren't old enough to develop problems yet

Scotty, I love your videos. They are so informative. Keep it up dude.

4:16. Bet Scotty's neighbors are used to him shouting while making videos for KZread

@richierudd

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe hes related to John Force but he makes great videos

@jasoncentore1830

5 жыл бұрын

I would love to have a mechanic like him as my neighbor

@billgenx117

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine the burnouts!

I'm with you Scotty. I think those start stop systems (outside of a hybrid) suck like an Electrolux. Thanks for the vids, and congrats on the 1 million subs. *:-)*

@scottykilmer

6 жыл бұрын

thanks for the support👍

@spicyF1

6 жыл бұрын

Scotty not sure if its the same thing with the deep cycle batteries, but batteries have a limited amount of cycles

@lukaskocsis6301

6 жыл бұрын

thats more to do with charging and discharging though, not starting and stopping cycles

@MisterMooo

6 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is Electrolux sucks, never owned anything from them that lasted

im adding this to my list (to do list when buying new car) - protect whole car with xpel film - throw a way engine cover - install oil catch can - stop hot water line to the A/C system with a valve - hard disable auto start/stop

I'm always learning something new on your videos. Thank you!

your 100% right... the start / stop is really annoying... if I can't bypass it I'll never buy a car that has it.... great info...

@tombomombodombo

6 жыл бұрын

mikeatc33 *you're

The most honest channel on KZread. Thanks Scotty

This is so on point! I thought the same thing when I heard about it. Engine start up creates the most wear in an engine. I own a jeep wrangler jk and I'm so glad I got it when I did. Got bare bones sport. I only wish I bought a manual. All the new ones have it and apparently you need to buy a 200 dollar box to bypass it. No thank you. I think they're doing this on purpose so the gasoline engines will fail sooner forcing you to buy a new car. Planned obsolescence. Love your videos Scotty, knowledge is power. Keep em coming.

@rons.6683

5 жыл бұрын

David Ward My cuz in Houston has the same Jeep, a 2018. Lucky for him it’s his ‘beater’.

It's so funny walking down the street and hearing a car turned off at a red light. I usually yell out don't turn your car off now you still got to go and then I make fun of the people that have it.

I was JUST about to ask a question about this on your "should you leave your car idling" video when I got the notification that this video was just published.

Spoken like a true old school mechanic! More parts equals more parts to break- that’s why it’s hard to break an anvil, and that’s why I also drive an anvil

THIS IS THE SMARTEST AND BEST VIDEO IVE SEEN ABOUT THE STOP/START TECHNOLOGY!!! Fantastic/genius video!!! 👍👏🏻🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇

I love the auto stop/start system because I (only use premium gas) and a Lucas deep clean 15oz and octane booster 15oz every 3 fill ups. Love the feature it comes in handy after flying by ya on the freeway💯 (2018 Malibu LT)

The auto makers only care about the first three years of ownership. They can artificially inflate epa fuel economy estimates by making a system that wears the engine significantly more because who cares. The auto manufacturers just want you to do a 3 year lease and get a new car every three years.

@adamfreeman1219

6 жыл бұрын

Tyler Sanders exactly this. Modern day dealers no longer want people to own and maintain their own cars. They want a bunch of clueless drivers who simply pay them a monthly fee for 3 years to drive their new plate car and take it to them to service. Then repeat the process with another car. With an attitude of "who cares what happens to it after that 3rd year".

@brianlehmkuhl8162

6 жыл бұрын

Nailed it. It's a workaround to list a low fuel consumption and that's it. I hope this trend goes away.

@danwat1234

6 жыл бұрын

Brian Lehmkuhl the right way to go is to full hybrid or plugin rather than think backwards

@AntonioClaudioMichael

6 жыл бұрын

Agree Tyler sanders

@brianlehmkuhl8162

6 жыл бұрын

danwat1234 I don't understand why you think me wanting to end the trend of auto makers finding sneaky ways around the environmental rules is thinking backwards?

I always thought this stop start was a really bad idea for engine wear, well done for explaining for the many who may think because it is the latest gimmick it must be good !

@recabitejehonadab2654

11 ай бұрын

It’s a terrible new concept. Get rid of the Stop / start .

My mother bought a brand new Buick Regal in the 80s. From new it would stop when it decided it wanted to save fuel especially when needing to pull into a busy intersection in Boston, accelerate suddenly (start), and it was silent like an electric car because of all the "stopping" (stalling) it did. It was so advanced.

Thank you, I always hated this new concept. I imagined it putting a strain on the battery, especially if you're running ac/heat and your stuck at a long train stop.

@lvgio

2 жыл бұрын

engineers aren’t stupid people, they use a special separate starter motor designed for starting many many times compared to a regular started motor

@josephroach9793

2 жыл бұрын

@@lvgio just had my battery die at pretty low mileage. It was definitely the stop start crap

@christophercolumbus8944

Жыл бұрын

is this the same as keyless start?

Keep on rockin' Scotty! 👍👍👍

Scotty, don't forget about turbos! New cars are coming with turbos recently. Shutting down a hot turbo is a terrible idea as well and very expensive

@Boz1211111

6 жыл бұрын

You shouldnt be pushing it in a city anyways

@taunusv4power

6 жыл бұрын

Boz 2011 we live in different countries. It's impossible not to push a car around here

@natehawkins2910

6 жыл бұрын

taunusv4power my 18 Ford F-150 3.5 uses an auxiliary electric water pump to keep coolant flowing to turbos and heater core. It's the dumbest thing ever once you find out all the extra complicated components that it takes to make stop start work. An auxiliary Electric transmission fluid pump as well (located inside the 10spd case) its soooo dumb!! I've never noticed ANY additional mileage by letting it run. And when you turn it off, all those extra parts are still there, waiting to fail.

@taunusv4power

6 жыл бұрын

Nate Hawkins hahahaha what a dumb system! I feel sorry you have to deal with that, from a ford owner to another. I'm glad mine is a 61 without all that unnecessary stuff

@MaestroTJS

5 жыл бұрын

Stuff like turbos, this start-stop, and direct injection are going to make it difficult to find decent used cars in the future.

I love this advice especially the part about the rod and crank bearings! I turn off my wifes X3 off manually I don't want to have issues down the road (I hate this car too! )

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS CRITICAL INFORMATION. I just bought a 2023 Chevy Traverse and immediately driving it out the dealer, it was annoying. And my common sense kicked into overdrive. Everything you said in this video is 💯 correct. Manufacturers and technicians must get together and go back to the "drawing board"

A tech relation: Years ago IBM invented it's 'airbag' system for laptop hard drives. If a sensor detected vertical movement it would park the hard drive's read/write heads. This prevented them from hitting the surface of the drive when the movement stopped, which could destroy that part of the drive. The problem? Like that crankshaft, the drives were only rated for a limited number of park cycles, so while they didn't get damaged from drops/jolts, they died prematurely because the read/write heads wore out.

@dinocrest1946

6 жыл бұрын

My old HP one had that. Hard drive is dead now....

@HunterShows

6 жыл бұрын

Ironic.

@jakegarrett8109

6 жыл бұрын

Later, technology called the SSD completely eliminated that problem, meaning you could bolt your laptop to a jackhammer and the HDD would be fine with no performance loss. Tech may not be perfect the first time, but that doesn't mean it won't get there. My little quadcopter has over 2 HP (actually 2 kW), and the motors stacked would still fit easily in your pocket, not to mention the batteries it runs can start a lawn mower (or possibly a small car), and they can also fit in your pocket (I carry half a dozen in my jacket). Pretty sure you could just make a non-geared (brussless motor ring, about 2ft diameter) connected right to the shaft and spin up a motor almost instantly.

I could be wrong, but I think this tech was developed to reduce emissions from cars and not necessarily to improve fuel economy.

@mdog2501

6 жыл бұрын

You're right. It makes a big difference, especially when I'm cycling.

@jasonscott2187

6 жыл бұрын

This technology was introduced to get better results in emissions and fuel consumption testing in a laboratory. There is little noticeable difference in the real world. Just a cynical exercise in fudging the figures.

@mdog2501

6 жыл бұрын

Jason Scott Try standing behind a dirty diesel, take a deep breath. Isn't very nice is it? Now do it again but this time with the engine off. Notice a difference? I've noticed a few drivers that active their start stop system when they see me approaching on my bike from behind. It's not nice breathing in dirty fumes. So I appreciate it when they utilise the start stop function.

@ronaldderooij1774

6 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the public here does not care about cyclists or environment.

@wesjohnson5019

4 жыл бұрын

It was a garbage idea by dumb fuks

Hello Scotty. I am from Hungary. Your videos are very informative, and interesting. I cant stop watching. Thumbs up.!

Scottie's the man! Love the videos. Take no prisoners.

I rented a 2017 Impala earlier this year that had this system. I was wondering as to whether or not they changed the starting system to compensate for regular wear. You confirmed my fear about these cars. Glad that I avoided that feature on my last vehicle purchase.

@DaleC1980

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they have beefed up the components but from what I have read, it may not be enough. Sounds to me like having a car with this feature and disabling it will be the best because then you have the beefed up components without the additional wear

@DickDebonaire

5 ай бұрын

As bad as this monstrosity of a system is mechanically, it's the electronics that I would be most worried about. The engine will only stop after many sensors and computers talk to each other and report their parameters to see if it's a good idea to stop the engine at that given time. I'm sure I'm missing some but (both) battery voltages, outside temperature, cabin temperature, coolant temperature, oil temperature, whether the car is on flat ground or a hill, how long the car has been stopped and how much pressure is on the brake pedal, air conditioner or heater use, and any other devices drawing current. I'm sure I'm missing some. And if any one of these sensors or computer chips fail you'll get a service engine light at best and a car that strands you (or gets you in an accident) at worst

My best pal has a 2009 Prius going on 280,000 miles. The only thing that went bad is the ABS braking module. The battery replacement, earlier on, was his biggest expense, but he considers that cost as normal operating costs. It did take him awhile to get used to the stop/start characteristic of his car.

@russell5791

Жыл бұрын

A prius is a hybrid and does not have a starter motor. The prius is specifically designed to work this way.

Pro tip: I work for Honda and just encountered a typical problem with Nissan. In the start/stop button models, sometimes you have to slam on the break while pressing the button to start the car.

I may be wrong but I think this is the only video that I did not hear Scotty said ‘when I was a young mechanic ‘. Haha. You’re great Scotty.

stop start is amazing during rush hour, where it shuts engine off every 10 seconds..

@yosefmacgruber1920

6 жыл бұрын

Self-drive would be the solution to rush hour, as self-drive technology helps in many ways, to keep the traffic properly moving. Or at least it will, once improved and is a standard feature on most cars.

@danwat1234

6 жыл бұрын

Chevy's anyway, like a Cruze, it will not stop the engine every 10 seconds, there is a timeout and it monitors the battery to see if it's ok to do another cycle.

@gregoryfaulkner5345

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah they all have limits to how much and how frequent and for how long they'll shut off, but they can still be annoying in extra urban traffic. To me the best solution to control the start stop would be brake pressure with a foot- felt click. Drivers usually know when we don't want the engine to shut off and when we do. We're watching lights and traffic in front so we can predict the worthiness of an engine shutdown. Ford F150 has an override button, but it has to be remembered and it resets when the key is turned off, so not ideal. Most of them have tricks one can do to override. Hook up a false trailer connector, turn on regular a.c. versus hybrid a.c., go to tow- haul mode, defrost, etc, but none of those are ideal. Best if we control at the brake. We can always remember that and keep our attention on driving. Self driving is science fiction for when we colonize Mars. This is what cell phone prioritizers want, so they can go from mostly distracted driving to being totally distracted.

@JamesSmullins

5 жыл бұрын

Yosef MacGruber this is a lot further off than companies like tesla want you to believe. In order for self driving cars to work they need perfect well marked roads. If the lines are faded, covered up or in any way not absolutely perfect the sensors can't read them. This has been the failing point every time as is it's ability to deal with other vehicles around them changing speeds. Changing lanes for example is risky if a vehicle in the other lane decides to accelerate. I also suspect self driving cars will actually slow traffic as they will force larger spaces between vehicles and during turns at intersections fewer cars will turn per light cycle. We humans will hurry through to make the light but the safety measures of a self driving car will not. The end result may well be worse traffic.

@Portugal2100

5 жыл бұрын

In these cases I turn my Mitsubishi Mirage 2017 system off.

Useless technology. More expensive.

@9drewbreez

5 жыл бұрын

Habitacion 101 it saves gas and they put more robust starters and better electronics

@jlgrangier4669

5 жыл бұрын

What does it cost to replace a starter in a F-150 with a 5.0 engine that had auto start stop technology?

@wesjohnson5019

4 жыл бұрын

@@9drewbreez crap and will break. Not needed at all. Stupid idea ever

@Spark-Hole

4 жыл бұрын

Mercedes for sure quickly adopts it. The German always likes sophestication.

@ITILII

3 жыл бұрын

@@Spark-Hole And if you like to pay a lot of money to fix them, go ahead and buy one and your mechanic will be glad to take lots of your money

Hello Scotty. Congratulations on a most informative and amusing series.

This is common sense! I'm noticing this more and more... and I figure... that's killing the starter.... and other issues. Great video. I'm new to this channel. :)

start/stop was not designed to give you better MPG that's just what the marketing men tell you. It really came in to comply with anti pollution laws in Germany

@robertgullickson8758

8 күн бұрын

Every mechanic worth a buck knows that emissions are way higher immediately after startup! You never do an emissions test until the motor has run for a few minutes

Thanks! Congrats on the SUBSCRIBERS....

@scottykilmer

6 жыл бұрын

thanks for the support!

Great video my wife just got a new jeep with this i told her the same thing it will eat up the main bearings

Wife's Stop/Start on her 2018 Chrysler Pacifica went out recently. Just to replace the battery was a hundred and change. Thank goodness it's a fleet car and covered it with no $$$ out of pocket!

Thanks for this video. I'm currently shopping for another car, considering used vs new.

Currently work at a Subaru Dealership. The Stop/Start systems in the Forester constantly fail.

@gtrsuite

5 жыл бұрын

Wolfsschanze Music: Oh oh. I just bought a 2019 Forester. After the 3/36,000 runs out, I am going to jump out that silly switch and make my car normal...if I don't trade it at that point.

@aegiseurobeat4559

5 жыл бұрын

@@gtrsuite Just turn it off and keep it off, the button is under the wheel by the door. Looks like an A with a circle. The stupid thing is it doesn't really save you that much gas unless you're in a traffic jam or something, and the car would need TWO batteries to function properly. One regular battery for starting/shutting off the car with your key or fob, and the other is dedicated to the Stop/Start system.

@aegiseurobeat4559

5 жыл бұрын

@@gtrsuite The Forester is a very good car despite its stop/start system, I like it a lot. Same with the Impreza, I've heard nothing but good things about them and I've driven a few of them around (They let us use the dealership's service loaners to go to lunch with) the only car I've heard bad about is the Subaru WRX, where the WRX breaks down, sensors go haywire all the time, and they're expensive to maintain, basically if you can't afford a BMW you can't afford a WRX regardless of the MSRP difference. So unless you have enough money to afford any sports car, I would not get a WRX, but the Forester and Impreza are good cars. If anyone reads this and are considering getting an Impreza, learn how to drive a manual, because CVT transmissions are terrible no matter who makes them (Nissan, Subaru, Toyota, doesn't matter)

@TheRoadWarrior

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the heads up. I was looking at a forester.

@aegiseurobeat4559

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheRoadWarrior The new Ascent is pretty nice. But yeah, with any new car, you should always get a warranty.

Great Video Thank you! This solves everything and answers much more than I had considered!

Thanks for the great videos 👍

I had a new Focus with start / stop. Safe to say I don't anymore 😎

@BmwMe-uh9sy

6 жыл бұрын

Dave H why would anyone buy a Ford?

@DrewsLair

6 жыл бұрын

Bmw M3 e46 why would anyone buy a BMW?

@PAUL-ESNEED

6 жыл бұрын

Forgott3n Gaming Because it's a good car company? At least back in the day, can't say that about the new ones though.

@mark9021

6 жыл бұрын

Total Loser been shit since the 80s like all the german car company's. Every e46 will have cooling issues.

@GreySchezwan

6 жыл бұрын

Fellas gotta roll with toyota

He says "annoying" with a picture of Gilbert Godfried. 😆😆

@MOBROOKS

5 жыл бұрын

Hahhahahaha Didn’t even notice that. And I like gilbert

@minuteman2012

5 жыл бұрын

That's why he's wearing glasses....so you can't see he has his eyes osed....

Great video, thanks for your information and insight!

thx scotty, this have been on my mind for a long time

You're right Scotty. All those things do is allow the manufacturer to boast better gas mileage on the sticker. On our BMW's I was able to code them to stay on. I was thinking, "these starters are not easy to get to and replace and I'm not wearing mine out by saving a couple bucks in gas!".

I'm an old car guy and first time I saw this in the car next to me at the light I thought it was stalling out. Then I found out about it and thought it was the stupidest thing I ever heard of. Thanks Scotty for confirming my thoughts.

Scotty always shares good insights. Thanks mate. Gonna disable it later

Awesome video scotty becoming wiser by the day 👌

Agreed...stop and start a total waste ...Toyota even has a counter that trips a light and tells you to replace the starter after a certain amounts of starts...and it’s big bucks

@joemann7971

3 жыл бұрын

Toyota must be laughing to the bank with all that extra starter cash they'll be making. If they cared, they would make the starter motors brushless so that they dont wear out with so many uses, but that would be expensive. It's easier for them to use old-fashioned start motors so that you'll send it back to them so they replace the brushes and sell it back to you at full price.

@andrewcimochowski

3 жыл бұрын

@@joemann7971 it actually is a heavy duty starter that is like 1000 bucks

*Thanks for confirming what I suspected from day one* . The first time I saw a car with a stop/start idling feature I was thinking: "Boy, all that stopping and starting is going to be hard on the engine." Good to know from an actual mechanic that my intuition was right. My impression of most car buyers is that they're stupid. If you tell someone they'll save 3-10% on gas mileage, I guarantee you most of them won't look any further into it. Most consumers are trained to accept the first number thrown at them and most (maybe as high as 95%) do no further investigation and no further questioning beyond that. They're well trained sheep. Since I know a little something about engines and electronic equipment, I know that the stop/start phase is the most taxing on the system. Engines work best when you start them, let them run a long time, and then stop them. Constant stopping and starting damages the motor. I don't have any vehicles with stop/start anti-idling features in them, but I've driven cars with them before and find them annoying. The moment that feature came out, it was added to my list of "features to avoid" on new cars.

Great video Scotty! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

I was wondering 🤔 about that feature. Appreciate-cha! 👍

hey scotty i am a car mechanic here in greece tottaly agree with ya.... another thing is is start stop at diesel cars +1 huge expensive failure for the dpf ! please make a video for it help diesel owners understand how diesel works and the health problems it causes !!! apart from the mechanical issues thanks keep it up!! suscribed!

@gravemind6536

4 жыл бұрын

If you are buying a Diesel modern enough to feature a DPF let alone stop start you are making a big mistake, its sad but authoritarian governments have killed the Diesel engines. DPF's, stop start and Adblue have ruined them and made them unreliable under performing junk. I remember the old school Diesels they were unbeatable.

Good Vid. Totally agree. starting a car is a terrible thing to do ! Like We used to Say.

Some model seems to have more problems than others, I found that also interesting. One of the main findings is the starter and battery weren't specifically designed to handle the stress. Plus the feature doesn't have a compatible engine to work with and the timing of when it is allowed to happen is being pushed to aggressive.

Scotty. I appreciate your rant here! I have decades of automotive repair experience myself and I agree with you completely. I can’t believe someone actually got that idea sold to someone in design and management! I had also heard it was for emissions reduction. But every good mechanic knows that emissions are much higher immediately after the restart. What a load of garbage! Thank you for educating our young mechanics.

I just got a KIA Stinger with this and it does have a button to disable it. For the stop/start to work though specific conditions have to be met or it disables itself. Engine has to be warm, AC can't be on (wont work without the compressor turning) and the coolant can't be too hot either. It also monitors the batteries current charge and if it drops below 73% it disables start/stop. The next cool thing about it though is it doesn't start the engine when you press the gas, it starts it when you let off the brake. You can let off the brake about halfway where the car will start but not move yet so you can anticipate lights and have the engine ready to go. I have to say it's about the least intrusive stop/start solution I've seen and it starts super quick. To top it off if you stop when you pull into your driveway and the engine shuts down you can just push the stop engine button and it puts the car in park and doesn't turn the engine back on. Bottom line, there are different ways to tackle some of the issues with stop start, and manufacturers are using these technologies to make it reliable and as least intrusive as they can. If it saves some gas and maybe some pollution why not give it a chance?

I really wanted to see a video like this that confirmed my fears about these systems.

I hated that feature on my 2014 Malibu!! And what you are saying is what I told the dealership (about it being hard on the starter)..I had an engine light on when I sold it last month with only 42k miles on it, smh

So in Wisconsin with my 2016 Malibu (heavy enough to handle Wisconsin roads), I've got optimum conditions for stop/start that keeps the engine going when I'm using A/C on med to high. Because starting in traffic is a hot start rather than a cold start. Cool!

New subscriber here... Thank you for this video! I wish more people understood the downside of these systems. I grew up working on cars, but I haven’t worked on anything newer than an ‘05. I have been driving a rented ‘17 Grand Cherokee, and the stop/stop drives me nuts! I’ve learned to let off the brake just enough to keep the engine from stopping, but not enough to let the car roll. The rental didn’t come with a physical users manual, and I didn’t want to spend the time trying to figure out how to shut off this annoying feature. So I’ll just deal with it until I get my ‘01 Highlander Limited 4wd back after my fender bender. I love that car! I bought it brand new, paid it off in four months, and plan on driving it till it dies. Only 114k miles now. But here’s where I disagree with you, Scotty - my Toyota has a V6. No way in hell was I going to buy an SUV with a 4 cylinder engine.

I've heard the purpose is to reduce emissions especially in cities and not to save fuel. Also isn't it only cold starts that cause the wear? When the engine is warm I thought there is hardly any issue?

@TehNouk

6 жыл бұрын

i think that too. and i am a car mechanic. i have never heard that startups would make the roadbearing go bad.. i might be wrong but i highly doubt it

@sammolloy8129

5 жыл бұрын

The idiots who time the traffic lights and fail to keep building enough roads want your car to wear out so you ride the “mammy wagon” with the rest of the peons. Then they will have less traffic for their big fancy cars

@judgeadvocate9275

3 жыл бұрын

Let's pretend there's no wear on any moving parts with every startup... like belts stretching... like timing belts stretching. And when it's warm, the belts will probably stretch more. Replacing timing belts and tensioners aren't cheap. Water pumps are also not cheap.

When i first heard of this, my first thought was disaster!

Good advice 👍 especially if you keeping car long term