I honestly love the non Jedi and Sith force sensative cultures in the universe. They're just so interesting.

@meediamongergamemodder2302

Жыл бұрын

yea its cool to c how cultures saw the force n ny entottys thereof n not jus the jedi or sith i finda similar intrest n itl cultures n how they might have vowd god not to say all relegions lead to heaven but their mythology n history may b key to understanding how they mighta communed with n understood the true father of all i often find myself pondering such things☺

@jackmanleblanc2518

Жыл бұрын

It's sometimes easy to forget that there is more than just the Jedi and Sith but yeah these other cultures are great.

@EnderOfFlops

Жыл бұрын

@@meediamongergamemodder2302 I had a stroke reading this

@integra8472

Жыл бұрын

I’ve really been enjoying the 2022 High Republic comic for this reason, they show more force-based religions on Jedha

@meediamongergamemodder2302

Жыл бұрын

@@integra8472 coool tobad that stufs reserved for comix maka hek ofa movie ora serirs😍

I love the Nightsisters and the Witches of Dathomir in a whole, their "Magic" is fascinating and their worshipping of the Sister and Brother in their own ways and drawing on their power is cool, it reminds me of Sith Magic.

@Ceriu

Жыл бұрын

yes it is very akin to that of Sith Sorcery that by this time was 100% lost thats why Palpatine was so interested in them at first but well we saw how that went.

The Nightsisters have always been one of my favorite parts of Star Wars. I have been wanting a series based around them and Ventress forever now. Maybe someday…

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

Yep. The Dathomiri Zabraks are amongst my favorite species, aside from humans and Chiss.

@alainajobe5823

9 ай бұрын

Soon

Really miss the light side witches that's yet another thing legends will probably always have over the new canon ... more diverse light-side orders

@minicle426

Жыл бұрын

The Singing Mountain Clan did get a namedrop in a Clone Wars anthology novel.

@RedXlV

Жыл бұрын

The light side Witches of Dathomir are back in canon, they were just minding their own business on other regions of the planet while Talzin's Nightsisters were getting involved in the Clone Wars.

@EIsaMars

4 ай бұрын

@@RedXlVdid they die with them?

I would love to have seen a book devoted to the Nightsisters in a similar manner to the Jedi and Sith handbooks.

@eds1942

Жыл бұрын

‘Book of Sith’ has a section devoted to the Nightsister’s beliefs. The last part of the video a summarized it. I haven’t gotten around to reading ‘the Jedi Path’ yet, but they probably have a sedation devoted to Witches (the Lightside leaning ones) as well.

Absolutely loved The Courtship of Princess Leia. It was a really exciting novel (especially if you read the X-wing books), and it was nice to show more about the types of Dathomiri witches that were present. Also, Han Solo was so hateable there.

@amanzeihedioha

Жыл бұрын

Lovable skeptic or Lovable scoundrel?

@michaelandreipalon359

Жыл бұрын

And yet Luke Skywalker was like a pop star for them.

@MirrenTheDragonKnight

Жыл бұрын

Well, except for the whole Han mind-controlling Leia thing...

@theevildrummingsithlord1492

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelandreipalon359 Oh yes. Gotta love the duality of what was gonig on.

@theevildrummingsithlord1492

Жыл бұрын

@@MirrenTheDragonKnight Exactly. I still think that was a shitty move on his part.

One of the things I’ve always loved about Star Wars is how different species and cultures are portrayed, even in cultures that many would consider to be more dark side leaning or “evil” there are plenty of differences between individuals and different groups within the society.

@stever1705

Жыл бұрын

Has there ever been a virtuous trandoshan or rakata?

@Ceriu

Жыл бұрын

I mean the night sisters arent even evil lol... lets not forget the Republic was the "great evil" in clone wars... Dathomir rejected those who were consumed by too much darkness and their magic was akin to sith sorcery (that by this time was LOST) very much so but it wasn't even 100% darkside it was the combined might and worship of the sister and brother...light AND dark...

The nightsisters are such an interesting clan, so glad you made a video on them!

I just bought Empire at War like 2 weeks ago and noticed that Nightsisters were in it. I thought that they were made by the Clone Wars but I’m surprised how long they’ve existed.

@christianbryan6961

Жыл бұрын

Empire at War is fun, and yeah, Nightsisters are a surprisingly pretty old concept in Star Wars. I think I remember my first time seeing the Nightsisters was in the DS game "Star Wars The Clone Wars: Jedi Alliance." Based in the 2008 Clone Wars show of course, but it had the Nightsisters before the show introduced them, so no green magic.

@leotavira7854

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they've been around since at least 1994 when The Courtship of Princess Leia was released

@minicle426

Жыл бұрын

@@leotavira7854 Wasn't there also one in an Ewok movie?

@thimovijfschaft3271

Жыл бұрын

Empire At War was my introduction to the Nightsisters as a kid. It was also when I figured out what my type is in woman...

@christianbryan6961

Жыл бұрын

@@minicle426 There was a witch in the old Ewok cartoon. I don't think she was a nightsister though.

The Force Magic they use is most intriguing, as well as how they worship the Celestials like the Son and Daughter, both as proper interpretation of the Force.

I would love to hear more about the good side of the Witches, i had no idea there were other witches than the Nightsisters on Dathomir until you mentioned them here.

A lot of Star Wars original concept designs look fantastic. I'm glad they used Maul's original look for Mother Talsin's

Something interesting in the Dawn of the Jedi series: we see two humans, a woman and a man, riding Rancors on Dathomir millenia before the Jedi even existed. They and the other force sensitives of Dathomir were taken by the Tho Yor to form the Jed'aii order. It seems its been retconned that Allya rediscovered how to tame Rancors, and restored the tribal society of Dathomir rather then inventing it. Except this past society was more egalitarian.

@eds1942

Жыл бұрын

The Dawn of the Jedi comics came out in 2012. So, I’m not sure if they had time to retcon it has Allya’s “rediscovery” of being able to tame Rancors using the Force. It might have been a mistake. But, that seems reasonable.

...You know, compatibility between the two iterations is *really, really hard* to compute even with our advanced Multiversal research and dossier parameters. Edit: Hope you guys explore the purported past of the Kwa and even the Gree when it came to them being the past galactic superpowers and by extension the guardians of said galaxy (aided by the enigmatic Celestials, no less) against the forces of chaos and evil, especially the infamous Bedlam Spirits led by the wily Tilotny.

Luke and Jacon was both able to use the Blood Trail technice in Legends. Also Telen ka djos mother was a witch from dathomir and she was the queen of Hapes, this was also a people where the females was in charge, and the male was lower on the social order.

The night sisters were supposed to look evil? I always viewed them as a neutral force that, as long they were left alone, wouldn't care about what happens on other planets.

I recently watched all the Nightsisters CW episodes so this is really interesting to learn about! I'd love to see more of the non-Nightsister Dathomiri witches tbh

No offense to the Nightsisters, but when you are led by a Lovecraft horror who literally gave birth to a Sith Lord that caught Darth Sidious attention, and can bring back the dead as zombies which you know that the Force will probably consider it to close to the Dark Side considering you are calling to the dead to your beck and call.

Looking forward seeing more nightsisters in future of star wars

I love this so much, especially the fact that the Nightsisters tapped into both aspects of the spirit world for balance! Their two deities being connected to the Son & the Daughter, such a great callback & connection! Hopefully we'll get more Nightsister content in the future because they're too interesting to ignore! Great video 👏🏻

The Night Sisters are badass and powerful and by the way I personally like to use in Cantina Battles & Galactic Battles 100%!

Once again Legends has such a richer and far deeper lore than DisCan.

@amanzeihedioha

Жыл бұрын

But of course🥲

So that zombie army summoned during the Battle of Dathomir was actually created by using a Light Side ability? Well, that's something I never thought I'd hear. But I suppose it makes sense, as seen in other media's like The Loud House, The Owl House, and so on, summoning a ghost, spirit, zombie, or whatever to help isn't always used for evil purposes, sometimes it is a force for good(pun intended, lol).

@michaelandreipalon359

Жыл бұрын

Necromancy sure does do help for good, especially in murder mysteries. Just look at Pathways into Darkness, Arcanum, and the Shadowrun tabletop and its Returns trilogy of video games.

@zexalbrony4799

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelandreipalon359 Oh yeah it would be a big help in murder mysteries. For some cases, it would be as simple as summoning the ghost, asking who killed them, and boom you're done with the case. Justice is served.

@michaelandreipalon359

Жыл бұрын

@@zexalbrony4799 ...That depends. The souls could either be too complaining of being snatched from the afterlife even for a little bit or will be too deep in anguish and pain to even communicate at all.

@zexalbrony4799

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelandreipalon359 So what I'm hearing is will also need negotiators and councilors to help the ghosts cooperate. The Calamity Trio could actually pull this off, Marcy picked up some Necromancy from Maggie, Sasha is a professional psychiatrist, and Anne can be the negotiator.

@michaelandreipalon359

Жыл бұрын

@@zexalbrony4799 ...And then there's the hostile poltergeists. Hit-or-miss, I tell ya.

The Nightsisters and Dathomir as a whole is my favorite corner of the StarWars universe. Keep it up!

Good summary, but you left out the other infinity gate users: the Gree. The way I heard it, the Kwa were at war with the Gree who were using the Rakatta as slaves. The Kwa taught the Rakatta how to use the force, but the Rakatta savagery was beyond anything the Kwa expected and the Rakatta completely genocide the Gree. Ashamed, the Kwa retreated to Dathomir, gave up their technology and intelligence and became the blue valley lizard people.

I love that romance between the Jedi Cal and the Nightsister Mirren. It’s sweet to see that a Nightsister can love.

The Nightsisters or just the Witches of Dathomir in general were always a cool concept I liked from the Legends canon and the new canon

I think the whole magic aspect in star wars was interesting I assume that magic in the star wars universe was a branch off of the force but still connected and as powerful as the force.

Thanks for making this. It was awesome. I've always wanted to know more ever since being introduced to Merrin in Jedi Fallen Order

The nightsisters of Dathomir are the Star Wars version of Wicca and a feminist dream.

I’d love to see the night sisters in live action.

If the Nightsisters ended up killing Count Dooku, how will this affect Sidious' plan?

I’m working on Jedi Fallen Order for the first time. I have the sequel preordered but I had this game on PS4 originally and when I got a PS5 I continued my game from there. I ran into Merrin briefly on Dathomir. I’ve never heard of the Night Sisters before. I’ve probably seen them in Star Wars Rebels and just forgot. I want to learn about their history and about their magic. Is there a book devoted to that? I don’t want to buy a book that has one section about the Night Sisters, because I feel like it would be a waste of money if I don’t read the rest of the book.

2:00 the infinity gate powered by powerful stones called the infinity stones witch were sent to another dimension to keep the rakata from obtaining such power

I loved their depiction in The Courtship of Princess Leia.

0:01 Mother Talzin voiced by Rita Repulsa from Mighty Morphing Power Rangers show.

so this is the Star Wars version of the Amazons from DC Comics. Got it.

one thing i've noticed is people tend to give the nightsisters less credit when it comes to power. there's an impression that the nightsister's form of force usage was weaker than what we see comparatively in the sith when that's just not the case. in the comics mother talzin was able to bring down dooku (and nearly tortured him to death) and match sidious' power. she only lost because general grievous stabbed her with his lightsabers during said fight. like the nightsisters' magic is no joke and definitely not weaker than the sith's use of the force.

So Dathomir was a Republic penal colony full of dangerous animals... like Australia

While i can appreciate the old force dichotomy of light being balance and dark being chaos, i like the canon better. Light is creation and protection, while dark is destruction and weakening. Both are needed for balance and progress. Too much dark, and the galaxy becomes a literal hellscape. Too much light, and the galaxy becomes stagnant, never changing, never evolving, just vegetating. Light and dark in equal amounts, and the galaxy evolves, and so do it's inhabitants.

Soo too easy to commune with Aliya's spirit and ask her what she meant on her deathbed.

star wars galaxies was where i was introduced to the nightsisters and the witches their founder came from the singing mountain clan. in swg on dathomir there was a nightsister village and a singing mountain clan mountain village and 4 or 5 battlegrounds with active fighting between the two. never tried helping the nightsisters but there was questline where you could help the singing mountain clan fight the nightsisters. me and my rifleman buddy used to farm nightsister elders.

As a guy who didn't fit the traditional role of being masculine in the 80s and 90s. I felt like I was a witch and really never could be tamed or controlled. The Force Witches of Dathomir including the Nightsisters. I'd be a rarity on Dathomir

Did Geetsly get a new mic? I must've missed it cause he sounds so different, love the content btw!

@oVoxxy

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s his friend or brother lmao there’s no way his voice changed so much. Edit this is a different narrator than they usually use in the channel it’s Pat instead of Cam

I would like to point out that the draw their ability to raise the dead from the sister.Necromancy confirmed as a possible Jedi power y'all

TCW portrayed Dathomir and the Nightsisters very poorly.

I'd like to hear more, both because the topic of Dathomiri witches is relatively niche and because I value the informed opinion of the studious Geetsly's team.

I like it when lesser known subjects of Star Wars are talked about.

Mother Talzans Covent seems to have been more of a cult.

Fascinating video, very much enjoyed it!! I’d love to know more as to the Jedi’s perspective on the witches of Dathomir, and the Sith for that matter, though I feel the Jedi’s perspective is a particularly interesting question given their low tolerance for other users of the Dark Side when it comes to the Night Sisters.

No mention of Charal of Endor?

Man, the Rakata are jerks :/

@michaelandreipalon359

Жыл бұрын

Makes their eventual fates karmic. Still, a pity they didn't get a slow but steady redemption after the events of KotOR.

The Zabraks are strong & powerful and by the way I personally like Savage Oppress & Darth Maul

They weren’t mistaken there needs to be a balance of light and dark or it causes a wound in the force

I think it would be great if you could delve deeper into the lore of dathomir and the night sisters. I would like to see more them in the future thanks and may the force be with you, always…

I prefer the nightsisters from the EU. Dathomir was badass before filoni screwed it up.

@maxxor-overworldhero6730

Жыл бұрын

I don't think that he screwed it up, he just focused on one clan.

Imagine beating a species so hard in a war, that they don’t even go back into the stone age but return to fock1ng Monke

The Senate’s culture is so deep that it can reach ANY planet’s core.

The Witches think their males are inferior…..hmmmmmmm, why does that sound familiar?

@rainingtacos3135

Жыл бұрын

Sounds pretty misandrist

@aramisone7198

Ай бұрын

Dathromir radical feminists.

Apparently retroactively speaking Bird-lady from the ewok movies was made to be a Nightsister

Hermit state that couldn't put it's weapons where it's mouth was

I thought the Witches of Dathomir was just the Nightsisters. And I also thought they existed around 1000 years prior to the Clone Wars. I've learned a lot about them in one video. Edit (After watching Ahsoka Episode 6): And I now I know they really came from another galaxy far far away.

10,000+ years, and Dathomir still has not healed from the ravaging at the hands of the Rakata. I fear that it does not want to.

The Nightsister and Dathomir was the best of Star Wars Galaxies. I spent weeks on the planet, and despite at the time of the gaming being out in the early 2000s and more Iconic planet/moons like Endor, Yavin 4, Naboo, and Tatooine being in the game, it was Dathomir and Lok that took my heart and interest. When clone wars came out and they confirmed Ventress was not only back, but was know confirmed as a Witch of the Night Sister Clan of Dathomir that was a massive boost in my interest.

this is an amazing video is it based on any of the books, if so, which ones?

I think empire at war first introduced the night sisters and dathomir or maybe some comics i didnt know about

Love from a CoreysDatapad and Vaush fan!

I am very happy to be filled to the Brio of star wars lore I could never find out alone. Thankyou

Ah legends StarWars. When even the clearly obvious bad guys were still morally ambiguous.

So, essentially, Dathomir brought the Force itself to the wider galaxy? Or at least, teaching about it?

Seems like the knight sisters had the only presence throughout the clone wars era. Even exploring the planet in fallen order, everything is night sister. So many questions....no answers....

The fact that you don’t have more Nightsister/Dathomir Witch videos 😭😭😭

Ironic that you uploaded this now I’m listening to Fate Of The Jedi Audiobooks.🤣

Mother talzin: "arise maul reborn son of dathomir."

Can u do something on what the galaxy is like when the time is set to 10000 light years after the death of Ray papatine-skywalker has passed on her gifts to the force

I, too, love the Nightsisters.

Merrin will forever be best Dathomir waifu.

amazing, would love to see more

I love the night sisters always thought they were so bad ass, I wish I was one lol.

Where can I read more about the light sider withes of Dathomir?

Wish this was used in Acolyte

more information about the other Dathomir clans would be cool

Dathomir = Star Wars Australia, used by the biggest power around as a penal colony and every there will kill you if you aren’t careful.

Fascinating, thank you.

I believe Clone Wars TV show made it clear that more than one clan or branch of Night Sisters love on the planet. Ventress was just part of one section

@user-yq9im9dk9z

Жыл бұрын

I don't remember them making it clear, they act like the whole planet is evil and made it look like evil red swamp

@1lionyouth

Жыл бұрын

@@user-yq9im9dk9z It might have been the book Dooku Jedi lost. Lots of Star Wars material and sometimes the source gets lost. (No spoilers but Voz and Obi Wan travel to Dathomere and a conversation about the sisters comes up)

@minicle426

Жыл бұрын

The Singing Mountain Clan does get a mention in a canon Clone Wars anthology book I believe.

So I heard the night sisters were total freaks in the sac

I do not mean for this comment to be negative. I am just pointing out something I have noticed. Whenever the particular narrator for this exact video is on the channel 2 out of 5 times, the lore is inaccurate. I like this narrator's voice and accent, but the 40% rate of inaccurate lore is noticeable. Other than that, I very much enjoy the content. Thanks for reading this, and have a lovely day. :)

Can you do a video commenting your opnion about how Dave Filoni developed the Jedi in clone wars as an institution that made big mistakes and if that deviated from what George Lucas developed the jedi to symbolically represent in history? Do you think this "subversion" ended up working and giving the story the depth it needed? Do you think that George Lucas already raised this question, but didn't develop it in the story of the Prequels because that wasn't the focus of the plot?

@67thCloneSquadron

Жыл бұрын

George Lucas made most of the big creative decisions for the Clone Wars show

@JediAcolyte94

Жыл бұрын

@@67thCloneSquadron He got the ball rolling as far as the movie and season 1 after that he left everything to Filoni as he was got busy with TFU, Crystal skull, and red tails.

Blew me away with the reason for their tattoos. Such cool lore.

Are the infinity gates of the Qua the same as the World Between Worlds from rebels? Would make lots of cool connections between legend and canon.

Need more!

Very interesting video.

1:38 is that a Berserk reference?

8:50 Are you saying that The Je'daii (Force Sensitive Order on Tython that became The Jedi Order over time) are dark siders, then? Like, the order that became The Light-Side Adherent Jedi Order was on the level of The Sith, or these Nightsisters? Bantha Poo-doo! Not all Force Orders in the galaxy (Or, specific individuals) can neatly fit this view that you can ONLY be Light Side, or Dark Side, and NOT both. Examples: The Je'daii Order, Revan/Darth Revan, Darth Marr, Anakin Skywalker (Not as Darth Vader), Witches of Dathomir, Kyle Katarn, Mara Jade Skywalker, and Cade Skywalker (At times). •Je'daii: They lived on a world that had two moons (Ashla, and Rural Australian *COUGH COUGH* Oh sorry, Bogan COUGH COUGH), one that embodied The Light Side; the other, The Dark Side (Don't listen to The Big Meanies George Lucas, or Drew Karpheshyn, anyone down under. They don't understand you very well), so, some symbolism of the relationship of Light, Dark, and Balance was going to arise inevitably. Plus, since any imbalance in The Force (Anyone being a bit too Light, or Dark for The Force's taste) could cause Apocalyptic natural disasters on Tython if they were not careful, people NEEDED to practice both Light, and Dark, out of a need for survival. And they lived 10,000 years this way in (Relative, since there were some major conflicts that broke out, but none that got started on Tython itself, as far as I know) peace. To reference Avatar: The Last Airbender: Then, everything changed when The Rakata Attacked. This Evil, Fully Dark Side-Oriented Empire came to Tython, caused much pain, and suffering for The Je'daii, and the rest of The Tython System. Afterwards, The Je'daii were forever scarred by what happened during their fight against The Dark Side Invaders, which led to some wanting to abandon The Dark Side completely, but others did not, which started The Decade Long Force Wars (The First of countless conflicts between Light, and Dark), that The Light Side Je'daii eventually won, though all the Force-fighting left Tython uninhabitable. They became The Jedi Order, moved to Ossus, and the rest is history. Basically, if The Je'daii were Adam, and Eve; The Rakata were the snake that tempted them with their Force-Sabers (Like the fruit of The Tree of Knowledge of Good, and Evil), and brought suffering on the galaxy forevermore, as a result. They lived in relative harmony, then those snail-eyed serpents corrupted them. So, there's proof that such practices could work, and hopefully in a less urgent Out-of-a-need-for-survival sort of way, as long as there aren't Satan-like forces to screw it all up. The other ones, I will explain in another comment, or so, since this one is LOOOOONG.

i gotta admit, i love them

Great vid bro.😺

"mistaken" lmao The Force is a mistake.

Killing them off was one of the biggest storytelling mistakes of The Clone Wars.

This shows how Rakatan Empire was powerfull.

Death was just doing his job not really a villain