Well, from what I heard, the Nightsisters also got scars from their usage of the darkside, and one Nightsisters Clanleader tried to ban it, and saw those darkside scars as signs of shame, whereas Mother Talzin interpreted them as a sign of of honour, like stretchmarks. And the nightsisters had a very powerful skill, The "Bloodtrail", which allowed the nightsister to know the position of anyone who got their blood on their clothing. That among other reasons was a point, why they were highly prized as bounty hunters, and they sold themselves out to the highest bidder. They also could craft powerful totems and talismans, and harness the power of the living force, in order to gain its powers, by drawing on animals, plants, or any other living lifeform, allowing them to neutralize or fabricate poison (as long as it´s "natural", I cannot imagine Cyclone B coming from a nightsister, more like a irukandanji jellyfish´s poison), among other things, or healing illnesses by harnessing the Power of immune animals.

Keeping the Night sisters around is also an early warning system, there is no way the Sith would ever allow them to stay, Even hiding himself Sidious made moves to remove them.. and had always planned to remove them, even though he could've ignored them also. The Jedi thinking the sith would come back in force would likely wipe them out before they attacked the republic.

I mean in legends there were a few force orders that the Jedi saw as aligned to the dark they left alone such as the shaper of Kro va and the sorcerer of Tund, the Jedi ended up being cool with them if they just stuck to their little part of the galaxy.

Mother Talzin was voiced by Rita Repulsa from Mighty Morphin Power Rangers herself.

@patrickmcneil5089

Жыл бұрын

Really? I didn't know that

With Thrawn coming back into the picture, you should do a video about the Chiss Ascendency

"Ventress, now once again on the light side of the Force,[54] died in Vos' arms. Several months later, he and Obi-Wan took her body back to Dathomir where she was laid to rest[4] alongside her sisters[55] in the waters of her village, making tendrils of green mist rise. Vos, followed shortly afterward by Kenobi, began to hear the whispers of the Nightsisters' voices, welcoming their lost sister back home. In fact, as Vos reached out in the Force to say goodbye to Ventress one last time, he thought he could make out the word "sister."[4] Her yellow lightsaber was laid to rest with her.[48]" I think we may see Asajj Ventress again because of where she was buried and how those waters are used by the witches of Dathomir to heal. A purposeful plot hole if you will.

@mikepatton8691

Жыл бұрын

From your comment to Filoni's ears, I hope.

@_Zephster

Жыл бұрын

And because in rebels some of the dead nightsisters possessed people and tried to transform there bodies into that of nightsisters

@shyrose9234

9 ай бұрын

this made me cry 🥺

@smookypooch

8 ай бұрын

Dark Disciple was so good & made me tear up several times😭 it kicked my heart around in the dirt then spit on it

“If you really needed [The Jedi’s] help, they would help.” General Grevious would disagree, if you know his story fighting with his people against The Huk.

@biggsdarklighter0473

Жыл бұрын

To be fair though, they never heard out what the Ka´leesh had to say, since they didn´t have a seat in the senate. And the Ka´leesh thought of them as enemies, after they entered the war on the huk`s side, so they didn´t bother.

@metroidhunter965

Жыл бұрын

@@biggsdarklighter0473 and who’s fault is that in the end? The Kaleesh were already eyes deep in a brutal war with the Huk. Remember, Grevious became a warrior GOD because he killed so many Huk. Politics were far from a considered path when so many Kaleesh were just fighting for survival.

@spaghettiupseti9990

Жыл бұрын

to be fair, grevious tried to commit genocide

@metroidhunter965

Жыл бұрын

@@spaghettiupseti9990 so I was somewhat hazy but not incongruent with my previous comment. The Huk were enslaving the Kaleesh people. If the Republic, which is extremely anti-slavery, won’t do anything against your people enslavement; and in fact, sides with your enslavers-genocide doesn’t seem like such an extreme reaction, doesn’t it?

@spaghettiupseti9990

Жыл бұрын

@@metroidhunter965 tats not what happened though, the kaleesh never requested the republic for help. They took back their home and freedom and then became the aggressors and attempted genocide

Actually they did sort of see the light and dark side but they had slightly different conations and both were used by the Nightsisters under the idea of sort of paying tribute to either the Winged Goddess or the Fanged God respectively

@dalepalmitier7114

Жыл бұрын

And in the Book of Sith, those two beingd are represented using the same artwork as the Son and Daughter's animal forms.

@caseygray2328

Жыл бұрын

@@dalepalmitier7114 yeah, the Wild Power section of that book is one of my favorites

So does this make Dathomir the Jedi's equivalent of Australia?😆🤣

@kratal122

Жыл бұрын

Nah. Dathomir is much more hospitable.

@MandalorV7

Жыл бұрын

The spiders are around the same size. 😆

@666styxxx666

Жыл бұрын

Almost Everything in Australia is either trying to kill,eat or mate everything in sight 🤭 at least the nightsisters mostly kept to themselves ignoring the galaxy in general

@youngmoneyclutch

Жыл бұрын

@@666styxxx666 imagine a kangaroo chasing you for mating 😂

@666styxxx666

Жыл бұрын

@@youngmoneyclutch that's why I prefer safe countries like America, Afghanistan Iraq ect 😁( at least I know the most dangerous animal is the human species and avoid them like they have diseases 😂)

Jacen Solo went on a five-year Force sojourn, where he studied under other non-Jedi Force-users. Mace Windu did training with his people on Harun Kal and Plo Koon trained under the Baran Do on Dorin. Were there any non-Jedi Force users who did training with the Jedi?

@biggsdarklighter0473

Жыл бұрын

I think the matukai from legends come closest. they were a society of warrior monks, that trained unarmed combat, using the force to reinforce their bodies. They joined luke in his new jedi order, but liked to set themselves apart by using tatoos.

@Boomblox5896

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people have heard the tale of Tar Viszla the Mandalorian, who created the Darksaber when he was in the Jedi Order. A Mandalorian, of all people becoming force-sensitive would be willing to train under his people's former enemy to achieve his peak potential with the force.

“Oh there goes Darth Murder again! Haha, he went and got himself destroyed because he wanted more spaceships than his neighbor Jake. Classic Sith Lords!” *Cue laugh track.*

Question: What about the Sorcerers of Tund, Alan? Why the Jedi eventually stopped paying attention to them before even the Clones Wars even happened?

@biggsdarklighter0473

Жыл бұрын

Forgotten and mostly after knowledge rather than power.

@vallettapetracyneran8587

Жыл бұрын

I would add the Sixth Line and Jenserrai to this list.

@bigredwolf6

Жыл бұрын

It’s a big galaxy. They probably forgot about plenty cults.

@ddiirrkkiiee

Жыл бұрын

@@biggsdarklighter0473 The Sorcerers of Tund weren't exactly forgotten. By around 382 BBY they still had a representatieve on the Convocation of the Force on Jeddha, where Jedi had to interact with them

@seawind930

Жыл бұрын

Most of these Cults were reclusive and not purely darkside and when they delved too deeply in to Sith teachings like the Jensaarai the Jedi took notice of it and tried to put a stop to it and it ended in violence.

Question: If Darth Vader, during that one particular point in his life where he was in constant physical and emotional pain, realized there was no chance of bringing Padme back, did not know he had twin children, and hated his boss, why did he not become suicidal? Were there ever Jedi or Sith that were suicidal in Canon? I know this is a dark topic, but I was just curious.

@bigredwolf6

Жыл бұрын

He probably was suicidal. Going around doing extreme things. Hoping to get killed. It just happened to be that he’s too bad ass to get killed like that.

@Toppo69

Жыл бұрын

Because Vader hates himself

@VestedUTuber

Жыл бұрын

Who says Vader _wasn't_ suicidal? Anakin was always reckless but after he was put in the suit he took that to a whole new extreme. Not putting his all into lightsaber duels, charging into battle head-first, going on suicide missions... heck, he even once ordered Tarkin to hunt him down on a freakin' death world.

@davidstorm2224

Жыл бұрын

Vader has textbook suicidal tendencies. He just never learned to let go of anything. Including life. Until Luke that is.

To be fair sidious did cause mass genocide through war while the night sisters mainly just killed who ever was dumb enough to come to there planet

@nicholashodges201

Жыл бұрын

Even then something had to happen to make them WANT to kill the person...

@hackman669

Жыл бұрын

So if you land by mistake or are not a threat they let you go?🤔

@madtitan9432

Жыл бұрын

@@hackman669 naw Merrin from fallen order immediately attacked Cal Kestis even after he said he came in peace 😂

@KBzaz

Жыл бұрын

@@madtitan9432 yes because one traumatized girl with with survivors guilt is an excellent example of an entire culture.

@Awesomesauce1_8_6_4

9 ай бұрын

​@KBzaz and even then she did give him a chance to leave, initially, and only attacked after he refused. And when they finally had a chance to actually talk, she not only helped him but ended up saving his life and joined him on his journey ect ect.

Phenomenal question that definitely got a phenomenal answer. I always marveled in awe of the Nightsisters mysteriousness lore and definitely there magical elements of the force.

I know this isn’t a Star Trek page, but I can say that if a Dathomir like planet existed in the Trekverse, it would be monitored closely by the federation.

@ofthecaribbean

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@biggsdarklighter0473

Жыл бұрын

@@ofthecaribbean dominating minds of animal life, and getting rid of sickness using their powers? No matter the animals? If I were starfleet, that'd make either an excellent World to colonize, or a danger.

The funny thing is that Dathomir and force witches were originally introduced in 1994 with the novel, 'The Courtship of Princess Leia.' The novel takes place in 8 ABY, or 4 years after the last of the original series. They were not wiped out in the Clone Wars; that is a more recent rewrite altogether. It's very surreal to have been deeply into the 90's expanded universe Star Wars novels, only to come back 20 years later and have everything retconned to this degree. Then again, I'm not suggesting every change is for the worse, because it isn't. It's just very weird. Imagine revisiting Harry Potter 10 years from now, and it turns out everything after the second novel is considered non-canon, and the main trio spend most of the latter novels recruiting an army in the new world.

@Views-mr1it

Жыл бұрын

Even in canon they weren't wiped out though and there were still small active groups on Dathomir well into the Imperial era

@benjaminbrockway5998

Жыл бұрын

Were all of the Nightsisters wiped out, or was it just Mother Talzin's clan?

@Theology.101

Жыл бұрын

The Nightsisters were wiped out by Sidious, but not ALL of the tribes, and rhe Nightsisters from Courtship were made of exiles from the Singing Mountain Tribe founded by Gethzerion. Both can be true at once

@Klaaism

Жыл бұрын

Thing is none of the other tribes are shown in Clone Wars, the dialogue heavily implies the Nightsisters are it. Its like someone skimmed the EU lore quickly to give Ventress a vague non-jedi/sith backstory, and didn't even cherry pick the best stuff.

@RedXlV

Жыл бұрын

@@Klaaism Clone Wars does imply that, but since then a lot of the Legends content has been restored to canon and thus there are other clans of witches elsewhere on Dathomir. Which is actually actually a retcon that makes complete sense, because a planet is a really f-ing big place. Predatory wildlife aside, Dathomir isn't *that* inhospitable, so it makes perfect sense that more than just one small part of the planet is inhabited. We simply only ever saw that one part of Dathomir because the Nightsisters were the only Dathomirians who had any impact on the rest of the galaxy. Neither the Jedi nor the Sith particularly cared about other isolated tribes that were hiding in the jungle doing nothing. Also, there actually *were* still survivors from Talzin's clan, though you could count them on the fingers of one hand.

I prefer the Legends version of Dathomir where there were several clans all across the Planet. Singing Mountain Clan was more lightsiders, but the Nightsisters are, obviously, Dark Siders. Interestingly, even Nightsisters use the Lightside. The Winged Goddess is the one who grants Dathomir its ichor - and *she* is the literal Goddess of the Light Side, while Teneniel Djo was able to shoot lightning as she pleased on the light

@CachingCadre

Жыл бұрын

I agree. The original version of Dathomir was much better than this warped version. And proved a much better storyline IMHO.

@RedXlV

Жыл бұрын

Most of the Legends content about Dathomir has been retconned back into the new canon. The fallen Jedi Allya was brought back as the original founder of all the witches, and other clans including Singing Mountain are around elsewhere on Dathomir. They just weren't involved in the plot because they're all in isolated parts of Dathomir minding their own business during the Clone Wars. Light side oriented witches believe that Allya turned back to the light before her death (though she still didn't have anything good to say about Jedi), while Nightsisters believe that claim is fake news. It's entirely possible that at some point Gethzerion's clan of new Nightsisters will also be restored to canon in the future.

Sorcerers of Tund would be nice to talk about too. They were old fraction of Sith RACE that have different views on force, but were formed by ex high leaders of Sith and have rich history. They decided to study light side and basically isolated themselves on planet (but didn't abandoned dark side). They seem to be interesting group too, that Jedi should want to deal with one wai or another. It's like until dark side user don't do something wrong, Jedi doesn't target them, even if it's against whole balance believe etc. (I hope I remember right, who is who and this channel didn't make video about them yet, that I don't know about.)

I really hope they bring Merrin into live action along with Cal Kestis. A force sensitive nightsister empowered by the death of the matriarchs would be pretty dope. They could give her a green/brown plague color kyber crystal; Asajj uses lightsabers so Merrin can have one too.

Remember when the nightsisters almost destroyed Coruscant with an Infinity Gate? Yeah that happened

Love the night sisters there a unique group of force users in EU Era one my favorite night sisters clan was the singing Mountain clan Which produced o 1st night sister/jedi post of the return legendary era and if I remember few of them joined Luke's rebuilding of the Jedi Order wish they would be Re canonized .

Honestly I quite like the night sisters they're different from the norm

@hackman669

Жыл бұрын

An survivors? Unlike the Sith to bother fighting primatives🤫

I think it boils down to the Jedi admitting that they exist; and the whole Nightsister origin story is a bit of a dark tale that the Jedi would probably be better off forgetting

Great analysis. I agree that the Nightsisters were not seen by the Jedi or the Republic as a threat, so they were left alone. The Jedi were a mostly reactionary faction. They didn't seek out threats and traditionally only used lethal force as a last resort. Their direct involvement in the Clone Wars is what corrupted the Jedi Order.

@kevincloud574

Жыл бұрын

They were corrupted before the Clone Wars. They were stagnant, didn't make the best decisions, and the overwhelming numbers of ignorant Jedi was disturbing he balance of the force. Anakin fulfilled the prophecy not just but killing the emperor but also by bringing down the Jedi order. Both had to fall to bring balance

@Klaaism

Жыл бұрын

@@kevincloud574 Besides Sith masters working in secret for millenia.

@kevincloud574

Жыл бұрын

@@Klaaism What about them now

@kevincloud574

Жыл бұрын

@@Klaaism Oh the Sith masters working in secret for millennia was the only balance to the Jedi's ignorance, but it was still out of balance because of how long the Jedi were leading the galaxy

So glad you picked this up, thanks for taking a deep dive for us.

One of the things about the night sisters, rather than fight against the 'flow' of the Force like darth plagueis and darth sidius did, rather, the Sister's went WITH the flow of the force overall. If anything, the Sister's use of the darkside 'could' be seen as the PROPER use of the dark side.

I think the introduction of the Nightsisters into the SW universe in The Clone Wars was fascinating and I've always felt like Lucasfilm should do a series about them or at least one of them such as Merrin. Ventress was one of my favorite characters in TCW series and while 'Dark Disciple' was a well done book, I think they wasted potential by killing her off. With Disney so crazy about strong female lead characters, Ventress would have been an excellent choice as the main character of a series, and they would have had a logical way to explore Sith, Nightsister and Jedi stories due to her history. But with her gone, I'd like to see more about Merrin. Yet in the trailers from Jedi Survivor, she'd not shown, which perhaps will get addressed in the upcoming book that takes place between Fallen Order and Survivor, but no matter what they decide, we need to see more Nightsisters!

@user-yq9im9dk9z

Жыл бұрын

You'd think they would be all about matriarchal society and put out million stories about them until it became silly

@seawind930

Жыл бұрын

Nightsisters were originally from Legends and the reason they were left alone there was because they were descended from a Jedi knight that was brushing a little too closely to the darkside and was exiled and was eventually stranded on Dathomir and started a society from the locals.

@Awesomesauce1_8_6_4

9 ай бұрын

U probably are aware of this by now, but Merrin ended up being heavily featured in Jedi Survivor, and I would love to see her, Cal and the rest of their gang get their own disney plus show. It's one of my favorite star wars narratives being told right now and Merrin is a super interesting character (as is Cal).

@LumVaughan

9 ай бұрын

@@Awesomesauce1_8_6_4 She needs to be featured in live action films or series, but now with Morgan revealed to be a Nightsister, Merrin will be overlooked.

Why did the Jedi believe that bringing 'balance' to the force meant destroying one side completely? Or, by extension, realized what the Chosen One prophecy was truly about?

@kratal122

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! It makes no sense, to much of any one thing is never good. To much order leads to authoritarianism just as to much chaos leads to anarchy.

@gbladewarrior6884

Жыл бұрын

Anakin did bring balance. Before him there were thousands of Jedi and only 2 Sith. After him there ware 2 Jedi and 2 Sith. Looks like balance to me.

@Adanomaly

Жыл бұрын

@@gbladewarrior6884 If only Disney realized this, it is a more compelling story without adding a new force user survived story every other plot.

@emberthecatgirl8796

Жыл бұрын

A sea with no salt is not balance, but neither is a sea that is 50% salt. A sea where all the salt sequestered itself on one shore is also not balance. Anakin didn’t bring balance by equating the amount of jedi and sith, he did it by erasing both the jedi and sith in his life, and in death teaching the first of the new generation of Jedi about how good can come from evil and evil can come from good. In the end, Luke took his lesson to heart and created a Jedi order withour the absolutist edge that fractured the Force for millenia.

@godofgaming2350

10 ай бұрын

The light side of the force is the force in its natural state. (Or the force) The dark side of the force is a corruption. Balance means only the force with no corruption Balance=Only the light side of the force

You stopped commenting on my comments of do your shirt up. Im so glad to hear you say you do still read the comments I hope mine stick out when I make one once a year. Love your work bro

Great post. Very interesting.

0:50 No. Windu didn't try to execute Palpatine because he happened to be a Sith Lord. *It was because Palpatine was a Sith Lord, who manipulated the Republic into a Civil War.* He was "legally" elected (even the legality is debateable, given that he expressedly engineered the Naboo crisis to generate a sympathy vote for himself) into his office to serve the Republic. Instead he used his office the amass dictatorial levels of power, in the proccess causing immense suffering across the Galaxy, killing millions, if not billions, driving the Republic to near financial collapse, laying unaccounted number of entire cities to waste, supported the increase of slave trading, extorted planets of their natural resources, and cultural inheritance, sponsored at least one attempt at biological warfare, etc etc etc. He was a traitor and a war criminal. That's why Windu tried to execute him.

@petervizzini4006

Жыл бұрын

I always wonder why people assume otherwise

@revanruler6404

Жыл бұрын

I think it was both, but yes windu was justified. I dislike the jedi but even i can recognise that palpatine was far worse

@karlrovey

Жыл бұрын

Palpatine also made sure that anyone who could derail his election was either killed or otherwise unable to be present for the vote.

@Verebazs

Жыл бұрын

@@karlrovey The EU doesn't count, because it's licensed fanfiction, but what's presented canonically (ie in Episodes 1-6 and TCW), I can see him doing that. Unlike the Jedi killing their Padawans because of a vision Dsiney crap, that this video tries to peddle...

@karlrovey

Жыл бұрын

@@Verebazs The jedi killing their Padawans was well before Disney bought Star Wars.

Great question and great video with the answer!

Beautiful episode

Love your work man.

What does confuse me then is Merrin’s use of Dathomirin magick to cloak the Mantin in Jedi: Fallen Order.

@PvtParts-hr4zv

3 ай бұрын

Yeah it confused me too because she is ridiculously overpowered in that game. Doesn't make any sense that she is stronger than Cal who has been fighting for 5 years straight (by the time of Survivor) and has abilities (Basically teleportation and the cloaking) that not even Grandmaster Yoda has.

I respect this answer. This was really good. I had not thought of the question, but once presented, it was indeed interesting. The answer was even better.

Mother Talzin should have advised Ventress to let go of her thirst for revenge. She could have been the next leader of The Night Sisters if she would have.

@watsupdoc

Жыл бұрын

Mother Talzin wanted Revenge herself and control. She wanted to take Sidious place. She wanted Ventress to train the other nightsisters in combat and build her own army, while Maul and Savage build the Crimson Dawn. Thats why Siduous went after her and Ventress and Maul/Savage. He saw them as massive threats.

will you do more vids on these sorts of obscure force groups? the only other group Im really aware of that sounds like this are the Legendary Lost Tribe of Sith

Love the new set up 🫡

i love how you put cryto as a dark side artifact.

"You both shall learn. When you face one Nightsister of Dathomir...you face us all!" -- Merrin, to Taron Malicos and Cal Kestis

wasnt there one episode in clone wars where the "mother" nightsister used her powers while she was on another planet and even battled kenobi there almost being on par with him?

@jasperian1947

Жыл бұрын

Also Merrin Using it to hide the mantis in fallen order

Thanks Alan. 💖

Merrin was able to perform a ritual near the planet of Nur. How was she able to do that? Is she more powerful than we know, because as far as we know, only magickal things mother Talzin did were able to be done outside of Dathomir.

@jiffypoo5029

Жыл бұрын

Merrin is a very powerful force sensitive nightsister that was empowered by the matriarchs. Normal nightsisters are empowered by the few Jedi Master level Matriarchs like Talzin. The matriarchs pass their power onto the other force sensitive sisters when they die. Merrin is the last sister alive in her clan, she is very powerful.

Fascinating subject as always Alan, on an untapped subject.

Your comment about planets with exiled Jedi who had turned to the dark side and transformed the planet is a curious one with the rumor from the upcoming season of the Mandalorian about Din and Grogu finding a planet populated by dark side Yoda species.

Nice background :)

So one thing that caught my attention was that this video doesn't talk about Merrin from Fallen Order at all. She was definitely able to use her abilities off of Dathomir and her powers have the same green ichor as any other nightsister even while not on Dathomir. There is no explanation for this other than that maybe as the last of her kind she can remain connected to that power anywhere in the galaxy, but that is never explicitly stated.

Is it more or 90% of jebi prophecy's are actually self filled ones As in preventing it actually causes it

@GC13

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, these guys really need to watch Kung Fu Panda; Oogway could teach them a thing or two.

@biggsdarklighter0473

Жыл бұрын

@@GC13 or just read the tragedy of oedipus.

I know there are plenty of lists out there online about the best way to watch the movies and shows, and which Show episodes are essential so you don't have to watch every single episode of a multi-season show.... but do YOU have a video explaining the BEST WAY to go about watching all of the Star Wars Movies and Essential Show Episodes in order to get the best understanding of Star Wars? If not, would you ever make a video on that? As I've gotten older I realized I really don't have a good understanding about the plot line, the details, etc, so I'm really trying to dive into it

Um actually... Merrin uses nightsisters teleportation to save Cal in Jedi: Fallen Order outside of Dathomir so no, they can use their powers away from Dathomir. Sorry, just had to correct you.

@bigredwolf6

Жыл бұрын

He said they just revert back to their normal force abilities. Meaning they can either become a normie who can’t use the force or someone who can use the force. The green mist just acts as augmentation.

@jiffypoo5029

Жыл бұрын

Merrin probably has a high midichlorian count similar to a Jedi. Powerful nightsisters and nightbrothers like Merrin, Maul and Asajj Ventress are still powerful in the force when they leave the planet.

This will help me for when I run EotE in the near future.

Wow nice studio!

Good points! We also must remember by this period the Jedi were fully intergraded into the political system of the Republic. This is why the Jedi also allowed the Hutts to practice slavery and did not intervene to free slaves which they felt was a necessary evil to exist in order to prevent an unnecessary war between the Republic and the Hutts. The night sisters were an isolationist society and their planet Dathomir was so remote it had no interest from the Republic nor was it a threatening power so it would have been seen as another unnecessary conflict if the Jedi were to fight the night sisters. Since the Ruusan Reformation people in the galaxy including the generations of jedi during that period did not experience large galactic conflicts and wars all until up to clone wars. As much as possible they tried to avoid it by sacrificing their own principles!

Id love to see an exploration of other force using factions.

Generation Tech I got a good question can you do why Ventress is a Dathomiri instead of a Rattatak

Dude, Asajj was a padawan. They had a relationship we just havent uncovered.

At least they weren't the Nightsoil Sisters!

What if Maul was too well guarded by The Dathormirian society including The Nightsisters And Nightbrothers and was meant to be Talzins successor one day so Sidious would have to find someone else as apprentice instead?

@max-pl2cm

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t make sense tho because only women have power in dathomirian society

@joshuasitzema9920

Жыл бұрын

@max males powerful enough could become a modicum of equals. I'm going off of legends here but some males were seen by the clans as equal in power. Luke, Jacen, and Han were all seen as equals by some of the more light side clans for example

This is actually an interesting question as the night sisters did use dark side magic and were known to be pretty cruel to the males on their planet and the neighboring one

Hi Alan. I got curious because you're changing the background video to video. You say that you've been working as a journalist, or something like that, and is it because you still have your day job? Which to me makes sense, Star Wars is not something one can mostly talk about on the daily, so it opportune time to make a video when something new comes out, or a topic pops into ones head

One thing to remember, is that the Nightsisters were one of many tribes on the planet and they hinestly couldnt tell the difference between them. All Dathomiri had similar customs and what not, but only the night sisters actually practiced techniques that were sith related like alchemy. Twchnically they were witches and the jedi only really go nuts when its a Dark Jedi (as in a memeber of their order fell to the dark side) or the Sith Order. There were others, like the sorcers of the Tund, who were mostly darksiders and sith renegades, but since they never went full Sith, they were tolerated and even worked with the jedi kind of. There was also a cult dedicated to revan in Legends that Still existed intil they were hunted as part of order 66 and one of them joined Lukes new jedi order Edit:Also yes the Jedi kind of forgot about them. Palpatine in both canons didnt know about them. He thought they were just darksiders on Dathomir and didnt really connect them to being a seperate school of thought. In Legends, he only met Mauls mother so he had no idea she was part of a wider network of philosophy.

The one legends novel I believe it’s the Courtship of Princess Leia, kinda paints Dathomir in a different light. That’s how I found out about Dathomir when I was a kid

Mother Talzin had a good plan if it worked. The alliance with Ventress by killing Dooku and having Ventress train the other Nightsisters in combat, aswell as having Maul and Savage build the Crimson Dawn. She would of built an army and would of been massive threat to the Jedi and Sith, but Sidious saw that and wanted to eliminated that.

Would like to see the Nightsisters in live-action.

@Maxibon2007

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Isn't there a theory about the witch in the 1980s live action movie"Ewoks: Battle for Endor" being one?!

But wasn‘t Merrin able to use this Mist outside of the planet.

@richietribe9487

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She did, yes. And so did Talzin

@lukasmeier9245

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@@richietribe9487When did Talzin, didn't she just perform spells on dathomir that just lasted outside of dathomir

@richietribe9487

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@@lukasmeier9245 She used it on the world of that shadow cult. Where she went up against Windu and Jarjar

@lukasmeier9245

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@@richietribe9487 Ah, yes. But isn't this also a very darkside World to draw power from

@richietribe9487

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@@lukasmeier9245 I don't think it worked that way. Nightsister appearantly draw power from Dathomir itself

“Dathomir? Why would anyone wanna go there?? Ain’t nuthin’ in Dathomir, except fog and witches!” Ventress, “exactly”

It would have been interesting to see Kreia interact with the Nightsisters

Loved this video. I have a thought as well in regard to why the Jedi did not bother with the Nightsisters. We all know that the Jedi are responsible for the creation or rise of the Sith in a sense. I also feel that the Jedi may be indirectly or directly responsible for the creation of the Nightsisters. I think the difference in the two is that the Sith grew to rival the Jedi where the Nightsisters did not (as you have stated). But I also believe the Jedi do not want to acknowledge their responsibility in the creation of another dark side faction of force users. I think this would cause individuals to distrust their teachings including the people of the Republic. I believe citizens of the Republic would look at the Jedi in this manner: "If they are sworn to protect us, why are they helping create the very organizations that threaten us?" I believe ignoring the issue to a degree also keeps other Jedi away from being too curious about the organization and learning more from it. We know from lore that various Jedi left the Order to recreate the Sith. Maybe the Jedi were afraid of something similar happening if they put more focus into the Nightsisters.

There so many things that I never would have thought to do, until someone told me not to do it. Then I got curious, and things went down hill from there. The point I'm trying to make is, if you're going to forbid something, provide a detailed explanation on why such a thing is a really bad idea. I think that I read a Star Wars book, where Darth Sidious wrote (I'm paraphrasing) "Any forbidden knowledge, is usually worth knowing." I don't know if he's actually right, but I still tend to agree with the sentiment.

I actually never seen them as evil. I view them more like the gungans because they're warriors, thrive well in isolation, and seem to have a well kept creed.

07:00 So how did Savage managed to keep his powers outside Dathomir ? He only lost it when Sidious ended his life on Mandalor.

Simple not all Dathomiri where Bogan (Dark-side) aligned and for the most part they kept to their Home-world. but there where Ashla (Light-side) aligned and Bendu Dathomiri as well. The Nightsisters are but one Clan of Dathomiri and wile not full Bogan where more closely aligned with it than with the Ashla or Bendu.

@ttv_mrjack6749

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I thought Bendu were a species not exactly an alignment.

Other then the night sisters, were there Force using groups in the Star Wars Galaxy that say compared to the Magic used in Lord of the Rings, or the Harry Potter books?

What about the night's sister in The mandolorian Season 2

I've often had a similar question: Suppose a Jedi turns to the Dark side or just starts using Dark side powers and refuses to stop. However, unlike so many other fallen Jedi, this one DOES NOT join the Sith. They continue to serve the Republic but just in a more extreme way. Maybe they leave the Jedi and act as a Mercenary/Bounty Hunty or some other form of independent contractor. After all, just because someone turns to the Dark Side does not automatically mean that they switch sides and join the Sith Empire. How would the Jedi deal with such an individual since they can't justifiably kill them? It seems like the answer to this question regarding the Night Sisters sort of provides a solution in that it seems to primarily depend on the threat level, though I would like to hear if anyone else has something to add to this.

Wookieepedia says that Dathomir's population is 90% Human. It would be nice to see these people, their society and their relationship to the Nightsisters.

@Hello-bi1pm

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It's probably a holdover from Legends when we had light side witches that were human. Some book reprinted it.

@bigredwolf6

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Probably didn’t believe they existed. Or ignored them hoping they didn’t bring trouble.

Having played jedi fallen order, i hope she manages to preserve their way somehow

Another thing is that the Jedi could have easily dealt with them if they started causing trouble because first they are technologically advanced and also cal from Jedi fallen order dealt with large amounts of them by himself so a small task force of Jedi could probably do a lot of damage against them

I rather liked the Courtship of Princess Leia from Legends and it's treatment of Dathomir, namely that a rogue Jedi named Aliya was exiled to Dathomir and the Witches and Nightsisters mirrored light and dark sides of the force.

Dathomari and the NS are one of my favorite sectors of SWG

Remember, abilities aren't inherently good or evil... it's how you use them. - Kyle Katarn

In the legends, witches just kicked ass of the jedi task force, so jedi gave dathomir wide berth...

@revanruler6404

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also iirc in legends talzin was not the most powerful being on that planet

Dathomir is also a powerful force nexus and also the Ichor.

a follow up on Charal from ewok movie as a nightsister

Is it possible to get a video about the nogrhri?

Maybe I've been watching too much 40K lately but it seems like just being exposed to the dark side would corrupt force users. The Jedi did get complacent but I don't know allowing forbidden knowledge would help against the dark side. Sometimes the only defense is not knowing the danger.

Nice to see the nightsisters get more attention.

Would you be advisor for the star wars projects? For example to have influence on the storytelling so that they don't do redcons and to advise them how to make it interesting and to be correctly portrayed?

Dumb question: Whose picture is that between Yoda and Mace?

I heard they rode Dolphins too

true sith i love this info about the night sisters

Do civilization at earth level technology exist in the starwars galaxies

I got a good question how come the Republic never came across the Federation from Star Trek Epic War

"Some people might see the night sisters as an evil faction" they literally enslave every man on the planet and see men as inferior

@bigredwolf6

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The first part of your statement doesn’t have an irl counterpart. The second part of your statement is similar to radical feminism.

@bellairefondren7389

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@@bigredwolf6 So self-described radical feminism but not actually radical.

@karmicguzzler

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IIRC they don't quite "enslave" their men, they more have a strict system of matriarchy and gender segregation. It's sort of the inverse of extreme patriarchy, their men are objectified and viewed as only good for breeding and fighting. I'd say that's evil, but it's not slavery.

@DarkShadow-gh4jw

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@@karmicguzzler I mean didn't mother Talzin give Darth Maul to Sidious and if the men are only used for breeding and fighting and are only allowed to do that then that sounds a lot like slavery to me

@sirtaelellevalerie1056

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@@karmicguzzler " It's sort of the inverse of extreme patriarchy" there important to note that such extreme patriarchy are pretty rare IRL. Even islamic state has all-female regiment, with special privilege. Interestingly, IRL matriarchal tribes tended to be *more* gender restrictive than patriarchal ones...

Good, fresh Sumatra coffee, made in a French press with filtered water and consumed daily keeps my dark side in its rightful place.

Tbe dathomir witches also helped people stranded on their planet. They also bargained honestly with those who sought their aid.

I now have to watch these starwars law videos with the awareness of bias towards the empire and that scares me

Everyone always forgets to mention Charal.....