as a bike guy it's funny how we are so much slower but have so much more fun

@JuicedOnKids

3 ай бұрын

yh, you'll notice in Formula 2/3 and lower series there are more overtakes and closer racing. F1 has got me into watching the lower tiers more.

@br1anzkilLs

3 ай бұрын

Slower lap times yes. Slower acceleration and top speed, no.

@Mad8vCycles

3 ай бұрын

@@br1anzkilLsslower top speed as well once you start looking at good cars. bikes really just have acceleration going for them

@br1anzkilLs

3 ай бұрын

Nope. Look at COTA, both F1 and MotoGP run that track yearly. On the back straight the top speed record goes to Motogp. when f1 comes into the straight faster and brakes much later

@Mad8vCycles

3 ай бұрын

@@br1anzkilLs the aero is very draggy for f1. if you took a more slippery car, they would go faster. or if you look at drag strip... your average non-motogp liter bike (r1, s1000rr etc) will probably reach about 190. that's corvette numbers.

If Moto GP had something similar to Drive to Survive... It can easily surpass F1 in viewership and also retain that because races are genuinely fun.

@anonymoususer1824

3 ай бұрын

It's called, "there can only be one." Lol

@moveonvillain1080

3 ай бұрын

@@anonymoususer1824 well then obviously they are not doing a very great job of promoting it 😅

@robbienl8176

3 ай бұрын

Hitting the apex

@erikahuxley

3 ай бұрын

It doesn't need it. Drive to survive bring extreme toxic people to F1. MotoGP have enough toxicity without needing more. And no it doesn't necessarily need to be more popular.

@ckush928

2 ай бұрын

​@@moveonvillain1080Dorna summarised in one sentence.

F1 isn't racing. It is driving sinlge file behind Verstomping.

@torangclayruz4098

2 ай бұрын

😂😂

@DownForceSimRacing

2 ай бұрын

*crashtappen

@tintin9184

2 ай бұрын

Ducati Cup😂😂

@hazziqadam7547

3 күн бұрын

@@tintin9184In 2000s and 2010s yamaha and honda dominated where you at?

Another great video, I am a F1 and Moto GP fan, but in most bike races you have no idea who will win until the finishing line.

@Oi-mj6dv

2 ай бұрын

Basically and thats why its so cool

F1 should remove 2 wheels

@NonFlyiingDutchman

3 ай бұрын

just remove the aero

@jvydenlovescruises

3 ай бұрын

redbull tried, didnt work too well

@dayleashleynolasco5765

2 ай бұрын

If they do that, it's not a car anymore. What F1 need is to revert back the same mechanics on their car except the engine. Tone down by a lot the use Aerodynamics especially the diffuser. If they do that, I'm sure it will create a better racing & most bring back the controls to the driver. Remove that freaking radio. Stick to the strategy before going out the track. Radio s*** is like a cheat. As the teams calculate everything at the garage & tell their driver what to do. No sense of decision making in the part of the drivers there.

@jvydenlovescruises

2 ай бұрын

@@dayleashleynolasco5765 oh my lord its a JOKE

In Motogp the race literally isnt over until the winner crosses the finish line on the last lap. What i mean is that someone can beeading all race and just crash out of nowhere. You can never expect to win because one lapse in concentration and boom on the ground.

@d_anggunn

3 ай бұрын

*cough Martin in IndonesianGP 2023 *cough

@Oi-mj6dv

2 ай бұрын

​@@d_anggunnwe dont Talk about that 😂

MotoGP was not boring, now is heading to be a 2 wheels F1, and boring also. Aero should be off, less power and no electronics; then again the rider will make the difference.

@petrosgliogos

3 ай бұрын

Another good option. YES

@conortobin6180

3 ай бұрын

Then you should be pleased with the rule changes coming for 2027.

@xavierlaraserra

3 ай бұрын

@@conortobin6180when the new rules will be finally published, I will confirm you if I m pleased or not 😊

@fivespeed3026

3 ай бұрын

You sound like a WSB fan.

@marproductive

3 ай бұрын

I really don't understand in what way the tech advancements is going to make the motogp more boring. Is it case where the better bikes are gonna start riding them selves or the riders are going to start over taking less? And let's be fr riders are still gonna make a difference with or without electronics let's be fr. Imo it gets boring only one person is hungry for the win. I started watching last year so ion where it's coming from. but bikes getting faster and teams being innovative on what's the fastest thing rn can't be boring unless only one rider in the fastest team wants to win and only the fastest team is trying to get their bikes faster. I genuinely don't understand why it is aero = boring

You forgot to add shoulder sliding when talking about creativity. Used to be just the knee and then came elbow now its shoulder

Would love more motorcycle content again. So sad that you injured your foot and had to stop... is the ankle still getting better? Anyway, all your content is nice! Keep up the good work buddy! ❤

Watching motorcycle racing is more exciting but if I were to race myself I'd rather get in a car, which is way safer in comparison to bikes, on which mistakes typically lead to gravel, just as you mentioned at the end. I already had a couple of crashes on regular track days I've been to on my R6 and I am so done fixing it over and over again :/

@LyngkotSwer

3 ай бұрын

Only the Brave and Strong takes the dangerous path but Weak goes on the safer path.

@JuicedOnKids

3 ай бұрын

@@LyngkotSwer Inspirational, but I choose life lol. I'm happy watching the special take on the TT from the sidelines.

@bartkruczyk

3 ай бұрын

@@LyngkotSwer Fund my bike repairs and I'll be the bravest and the strongest ;)

@user-lw6sp5pk1y

3 ай бұрын

@bartkruczyk 😂😂😂 Love that response.

@philipchouliaras5879

2 ай бұрын

@@LyngkotSwer Did you race full speed on isle of man TT or are you weak? Does this also make Marquez weak because he hasnt raced it?

f1 not exist in real life.. superbike exist, real & we can ride on the road .. also more fun to watch.. moto gp more worth it to watch.. and tickets even more cheaper.. 😂❤

Amen brother. I'll be watching MotoGP this year, planning on watching the next race in Portugal with my dad.

@Oi-mj6dv

2 ай бұрын

What a race that was hoooooly

@joelemmanuvel

2 ай бұрын

Did you make it?

Love your content mate! Looking forward to see you racing again!

some of the biggest reasons are in F1, they do their best at qualy, and have already decided during their 3 practices what their race pace will be. Also in F1 they want a tire to last the entire race so they can stay on track and maybe make up some positions. BUT this means they are constantly managing their tires to last 50-60 laps, which is not racing. Another thing about their race pace, is they decide what it is, and simply try to manage fuel, tires, and hold their position, so they can get their points in their standings for the end of the year. Its not boring, its actually a strategic slow asz bicucle race.

@NaskaAlbertoENG Love your content, so please keep it coming, looking forward to seeing the Formula X Pro, Lotus cup and Mitjet race videos. I transferred from the old account so saw a lot of your races over the the last year and a half, I love what you're doing The Test/Races vlogs and then these sort of vids. Good luck for the up and coming season, stay safe, and keep it FLAT OUT!

Great vid Alberto! Hopefully this channel will reach the same amount of subs as your other channel soon!

loved all the comparisons. wasnt expecting Legend cars being included. Great work!

Today, F1 had 4 over takes in Monaco. MotoGP had 5 lead changes, MM93 went from 14th on the grid to 3rd place. Pecco went from 1st to 3rd and ran down Martin 1.3sec lead and passed him in 6 laps. MotoGP is a lot more exciting.

Brother following you from the 2018 when I got interest in bikes but one day god decided something else and you got into a horror accident at San Marino with your R1 and it took you so long to recover and thanks to medical advancements of Italy you are back and fully fit but after that you decided not to race with R1 and switched to cars instead. Hope you are good and happy to see your channel again in my feed. Please attach the previous channel link too where you had all your bike videos couldn’t find one now. Love from India 🇮🇳💕 and pardon for my English mistakes if any

Although there was not that much in the video that I didn't already know, more or less, it was entertaining and fun, and the details were informative. Well done. Oh and I still follow motogp but stopped watching F1 about 3 years ago.

Amazing video!

Great video!

Thank you for very interesting comparison

His accent is so satisfying. And refreshing. NEW SUB!!!!

bikes also got more complex dynamics, more involvement of the driver, bigger risk etc. thus require more physical and mental skill and thus operates on higher margins of errors. Just think about the tires - they are made to lean. That are different cornering forces than a car relies on ,not to forget sometimes only one tire is in touch with the ground changing the whole dynamics again. It is a totally different game - a lot can go wrong.

We want to see you back with moto and fight for win.

Thanks for the in depth analysis!

The question becomes is lots of overtaking and being able to overtake actually good racing. I find when the performance of the car is manufactured to be so different at a different time of the race (due to tyres, fuel, DRS etc) that the overtakes are often expected and dull. Cars trying to follow closely and look for an opening whilst going very quickly is very exciting even if the overtake is in the end not able to be made. I don't know about bikes but in F1 the size and extreme fine performance window makes the margins for a normal overtake very fine.

you are the best, for explanation and clear of concepts. TY

love love love these type of videos, would appreciate more please

Had fun watching, didnt skip a sec. Cheers mate !

You deserve millions of subs. Delivery is by far the best of all the motorsport themed channels I've seen

MotoGP is getting more and more boring too, becausse of the aero. If a rider doesn´t qualify for the first 5 or 6 places on the grid, probably he will never get to the front, unless someone crashes. WSBK and Moto3 still have real races.

If i could change 1 thing about F1, it would be to no longer have solid surface outside of the track limit. Grass outside of the track, will make missing a corner costly.

Very insightful analysis

I just found you back Alberto. Why do u only have 28k subs now? I used to watch u years ago!

@NaskaAlbertoENG

3 ай бұрын

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@KSZero

3 ай бұрын

Nice! Im still subscribed! Its probably just its been a while since i watch racing contents again. Good to see you and keep sharing! You always inspire me.

Hello Naska, Thanks for a great video. Can you also explain why the slipsteam does not seem to work most of the times? I barelly see it working in F1, even if the cars have almost the same exit. This happens sometimes on MotoGP but only if the driver behind is very close. And why is it so easy in Moto3? Seems couterintuitive. When you are cicling you feel the sleepsteam going 20km/h, also when you 40km/h you feel it twice as much, from farther away: logically the higher the speed the easier and the stronger the slipstream is, but it does not seem to be true. Also if the downforce is harmful in MotoGP, then why Marqez tries to follow Bagnaia in Qalifying? Thanks.

Motorcycle content, Woohoo naska welcome back :P

Thank you for fantastic video 👍👍👍

DRS should be an "at will" button where you get 6 seconds per lap (depending on the size of the lap of course) that you can deploy a long with your battery power.

I've always been a fan of both and tbh in 2018 and 2019 F1 was way more fun than MotoGP. And if we are serious World Superbike is way more fun than both at the moment. More interesting seasons will come at some point, it's part of the sport

If you want close car racing there's always the tin tops, not afraid to rub some doors :) and the Porsche Supercup races during some F1 European weekends are just great fun 😂

MotoGP is unfortunately becoming more like F1 everyday, with excessively reliance on electronics and aero, sure the wings are smaller but I can definitely see change in the riding style which is becoming more processional. It is still very good racing but a bit worrying with the direction it's going. WSBK have better racing at the moment, more affordable and more manufacturers who can equally fight for podiums. Also more overtaking doesn't equate to more excitement. It's the car or bike that can follow each other closely and race side by side that make racing exciting. You can have a race with 1000 DRS overtakes, it will not make F1 more exciting.

How about Indy Cars? Are there more overtakes in Indy Cars? Do they suffer the same aerodynamic issues as F1?

@DroneStrike1776

24 күн бұрын

A lot more overtakes in Indy. The cars are pretty much even, it's all about drivers.

@DroneStrike1776

24 күн бұрын

A lot more overtakes in Indy.

less downforce, more power, and a form of DRS/KERS for coming out of corners to help with acceleration

5:39 the little difference in lap times is because the Michelin tires became incredibly inferior. The lap times have actually been reducing.

Perfect video. Well done and thank you. KEEP GOING

On the technical side, this video is perfect. But there is one thing i always tell people that somehow no one really recognizes. Its a thing you feel as a motorcycle rider. Motogp or motorcycles in general are much more "dynamic" or "aesthetic". Like with the bike, cornering is some kind of flow, the rider doesnt have to fight the corner, the rider goes with the flow. There is no lateral g force (yeah technically there is but you dont experience it as lateral, it just presses you into the bike). Its just a beauty of racing, seeing all the competitors flowing through the track as a river. On the other hand, car racing is just not aesthetic. Especially formula one where drifts and sideways movements are really rare. Its basically just a line of cars, fighting the lateral g forces on rails. Obviously its also some kind of art to drive as perfect as the f1 drivers do. But its just not aesthetically pleasing.

@Lianpe98

3 ай бұрын

No one mentions it because it's completely subjective.

@adamsjoberrg

3 ай бұрын

I'm a die hard motorbike guy but I'm not sure I follow your argument. A real difference between the current sports is definitely though that MotoGP looks FAST, and F1 doesn't. It IS fast, a lot faster than MotoGP over a lap, but it doesn't show nearly as much to the viewer. This may be what you mean, no?

I have to agree and the only GP I have seen live was Moto GP back in the days in Assen, I guess 20 years ago. But I still stick to F1, and I don't know why ;-)

I haven´t watched F1 in years but I love GT3 and Cup racing. Absolutely understand, that it is not possible to compare F1 to GT3 or MotoGP to GT3/Cup racing. But one of the main reasons GT3 is so much more entertaining and you have way more overtakes in my opinion is, that it is not possible to get better technology by investing more money, but you have to buy a car and make it work for you and your team. And those cars can take a little beating. Leaning on each other, bumping the rear a bit to gain an advantage. And most important, every manufacturer has a completely different concept. A 911 racing an M4 racing a Hurracan. In the DTM, the highest level of GT3 racing on the globe, place 1 to 20 qualify within 1 second, sometimes even less. And the crazy thing about that is, one day one driver wins, the next he is dead last. Absolutely love it. Or watch Porsche Carrera Cup Germany, or BMW M2 Cup. Everyone has the same car and the best driver wins.

I don't race cars or motos. But I do like to push my car to the limits and same with my bicycles. I learned the hard way growing up biking about always making sure u slow down enough. I got multiple scars from fucking up on the breaks either to much or not slowing down enough. 1 in particular from bombing a hill and thinking I could take a hard left going 50mph on a bike😂. My front tire said nice try buddy and sent me hard into the curb.

@DownForceSimRacing

2 ай бұрын

Nah thats brutal

Would enforcing a maximum drag coefficient help F1 racing?

I enjoyed the v8 supercar photos throughout

A brilliant analysis; and you also included all the “Yeah buts” and acted as the Devil’s Advocate at times, just to be extra fair to F1. In the end we concur: MotoGP is exponentially more exciting than F1. Thank you for the videos.

Ground effect cars did make better racing…. but F1 messed up introducing new Regs, and a cost cap at the same time…. If Merc and Ferrari could invest like they used to you’d have a fight at the front but they literally aren’t allowed too.

I agree 🤣 Great video, thank you ❤

I love the video thanx for that!! Valentino Rossi Always in our heart hehe ;P

Good point

What bike is Alberto’s machine of choice? I’m thinking Ducati Panigale… what size?

Just imagine we're witnessing the death of EVERY Motorsports. Luckily some remains intact like TT or hillclimb but for how long ..?

moto gp used to have the tyres sorted to perfection, down to the last lap infamous battles, not watched since marquez prime days so maybe has changed. F1 is all about the PU or now aero dominated formula. and they run on rubbish tracks where already difficult overtaking is impossible, not sure what they expect to happen 😅

@emenesu

3 ай бұрын

Don't forget how F1 is basically endurance racing now where you have to take care of the tires instead of pushing.

@philipchouliaras5879

2 ай бұрын

Half the calendar is on the same tracks lol

A very good video

This is why V8 Supercars in Australia is so competitive. Clutching and out-braking your opponent is completely possible and often done. This is why I enjoy it a lot more than F1 as a car racing series.

Bravo nasca non sapevo che parlassi inglese nice 😮

If there was less overtake in 2000s is because there was no drs back then also overtzkes were more spectacular

Formula 1 is boring, MotoGP is becoming boring, WSBK is not boring.

Basic history exposes that sports originated from the boredom of men after the danger of wars. This applies to motorsports as it was a dangerous past time during the past world wars. Fitting, the more dangerous 2 wheel racing is more in line with the the heritage and that is what entertains us. Realistically, there really is no need to speed as speeding is dangerous and requires good engineering to execute. Psychologically, that implies that we men are entertained in racing as we see different teams experiment with different innovations and see the drivers/riders perform life threatening racing just for the heck of winning. That said,the current 4 wheel racing is so advanced, is so safe, is so fast, and is so evenly restricted that it lost its roots as being a danger-to-adrenaline entertainment. Add that teams have barely anything creative "mods" to set them apart and F1 has thus become a boring feat of regulated engineering. People forget that all sports has two factors - 1 pushing the participants to human limits and 2 ensuring the paying watchers are entertained.

"In motorcycle what happens when u lock the front wheel?...Ok! what happens if u break too much?...Ok! what happens if u enter a conner too fast?" Best part ROFL 🤣🤣

Love both series, moto gp is more exiting becouse more different riders can win.

I love both, I can comfortably enjoy MotoGP if F1 feels boring and vice versa.

Being a crazy fan of both- I'd say F1 is like a fine artist creating a painting in his room whereas MotoGP is a Graffiti writer doing his usual stuff hanging off a harness from the top floor of a skyscraper. The only 4 wheeled competition that comes close to MotoGP is probably WRC.

As a fan of both, objectively speaking: MotoGP has way better action, but not enough media coverage or the fanbase is just not as hyperactive as F1's and no even as much Socials reach. There's something wrong and I can't put a correct diagnosis on it.

@adityathio

3 ай бұрын

MotoGP needs Liberty Media rather than old lady Dorna as a promotor.

@philipchouliaras5879

2 ай бұрын

To be completely fair, 4 wheeler racing is simply more popular than bike racing. Doesnt matter how much coverage motoGP will get. For example, motoGP is much more popular and mainstream than WEC. Yet the numbers are not as far as you would think they'd be.

@adityathio

2 ай бұрын

@@philipchouliaras5879 yeah makes sense. more people easier to relate to 4 wheeler rather than 2 wheeler.

Cool!

Stats means nothing, maybe we have more overtakes today but mostly with DRS, instead back then you had to prepare your pass. 1 real overtake is worth more than a 100 with DRS !

we (peaple) uselly ride bike , so we relate..

Modern day racing is boring. We don't enjoy it much but you need to understand that racing is a playground to develop a technology that's why they started racing each other . I guess the should remove aero from Moto GP and drs from f1 . There should be a budget cap for all teams

What is MotoGP? I only saw the Ducati Cup😂😂😂

@eldiablo1374

2 ай бұрын

Yesterday race much better than F1 race whole season 😂 Aprillia ktm beat Ducati cup 😂

pole position in mugello 2023 was 1:44.850

@rizqiramadhan5111

3 ай бұрын

surely it would be close to 1:43:9xx or at least 1:44.2xx this year with desmosedici gp24

Using both legs for breaking is crazy

When is Netflix doing a MotoGP series?

Is F1 seeing less overtakes because it's an open wheel class? I guess the potential for critical damage when hitting an opponent is much larger than with closed wheel specs or motorcycles. So pushing your car when there's a tiny gap is a much higher risk maneuver than with other classes of vehicles. Is this something that has influence?

thanks! I'm off to go buy a bike

I believe its called venturi tunnels and not venturi channels

nice

Yup. For now i agree. But the way its going at the moment, motogp isbst risk losing japanese manufacturers. If theyre gone, the viewers will drop in millions.

formula 1 is now become a One team Sports and the way FIA treats other team is raising questions and the audience is now been moving on from its platform

F1 cars have different optimal lines… ( some has more grip in cirners then others,+ the engines are different too so the power is different too, car balance is another topic too, it makes each car take corners differently) but true less overtaking is came from size mostly in f1 or difference in top speed, soo just a get a better car than the ithers 😂

Single Manufacturers dominate in Moto GP just as they do in F1, no body was moaning when Marc Marques had the fastest bike for years and couldn't be beaten, before that Rossi , now it's Ducati.....for me Moto GP has less drama and razzmatazz and the races are much shorter, they're like the sprint races in F1

Too many rules in F-1 under the guise of "Safety" have Frankenstein the cars. The cars became as long as city buses, and tracks became too narrow as well. Don't worry, they are doing the same B-rainless S-tupidity to the bikes soon for 2027.

What I learned from this video. Gokarts are the ultimate car

Nothing like GP 3 until last curve no one knows who is going to win

Exactly the point. Today's f1 cars are bigger and heavier than they've been in years. Reduce them dimensionally and we would probably see more competitive racing. Smaller, more nimble is the way to go.

Max Verstappen doesn’t usually used the “ideal line” He usually used a line that allows for maximum acceleration out of the corner which is slightly longer and required a more aggressive turn in than the “ideal line” Just saying theres definitely more than one “ideal line” depending on the situation and the corner

@nevarran

3 ай бұрын

But the difference between the "ideal line" and the line someone with a different driving style uses is very, VERY small. So what Alberto said still applies 100%. Going around another car in the corner throws any good racing line in the trash.

@tonamg53

3 ай бұрын

@@nevarran That’s why F1 has DRS

I didn't knew moto gp bikes were so big.

lets not pretend "old F1" (V10 era) had less overtakes due to size of the car or aerodynamics or anything, the only reason we have so many overtakes now in current era F1 is because of the stupid DRS bs, yes we get a lot of overtakes but they mean nothing its just one car behind pressing a button like the nitro button in a need for speed game and overtaking the car in front with zero battle or hardship. Yes, V10 era F1 had less overtakes but the ones we had were actual overtakes and not just cars zooming past each other for the entire race, most drivers don't even try to defend the position, just stay close and wait for the next DRS zone

WSBK and my new favorite Moto America

In car racing it’s 70% the car and 30% the driver, it’s opposite in Motorcycle racing where it’s 70% rider 30% the bike.

@DownForceSimRacing

2 ай бұрын

Thats just not true but ight bud

@JPRacing715

2 ай бұрын

@@DownForceSimRacing you can have that opinion which you are entitled too but it is in fact true. It’s been stated by many experts over the years. I am shocked you haven’t heard this, I have raced both. Mainly motorcycles but it still holds true. Do me a favor, go race them both, see how much of a difference the machine makes in each category and get back to me.

Car content is boring. Mainly because not many of us mere mortals can afford cars and trackdays. Bike content was excellent as this is something anyone of us can do in real life.

f1 more of a endurance+focus race then agility+creativity It's like every single one of thy drivers are following the same style of riding.. Remind me of highschool... No creative freedom, you just need to follow whay thy system pave in front of you to score thy win/ high marks. But we all know it all made to be that way, considering thy fact that F1 is a business and in it the team and builders are as crucial as the drivers themselves. Tho we still have same competitiveness among make honda, yamaha etc. its no where near the legacy of f1 For me personnel f1 is more interesting in the aspect of innovations, i.e pushing the boundary of what's possible with lap time and technological aids and science behind it all. No wonder these machines turn out insanely costly.

motogp is fun but the graphics n camera work in f1 races are much much better