Hollywood:- remakes old movie for cash grab by saying its for the "modern audience" The audience:- Rewatches the original.

@ARC5555Fives

Жыл бұрын

That’s because the originals are always good Edit: okay maybe one exception would be the Star Wars prequels but that’s a totally different story

@exsmoker74

Жыл бұрын

Example = point break, remake was garbage!!

@Hiraghm

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood: yea! We got fresh money from old movies.

@jaredsmith112

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately some of those Disney live action remakes made a billion each

@JoaoGa210

Жыл бұрын

@@jaredsmith112 Some, like the first ones, but i believe i can say that's not the case with the newer ones.

"Modern audience" "Diverse casting" and "subverting expectations" are 3 movie killers.

@korbendallas8488

Жыл бұрын

It's the "Triangle of Death" for movies nowadays

@RS-ls7mm

Жыл бұрын

"re-imagining" is another red flag.

@chrissonofpear1384

Жыл бұрын

I don't mind some subverting of expectations. It just better be surprising, in a good, or clever, or entertaining way. The more frustrating, the more pointless, generally.

@Dragonage2ftw

Жыл бұрын

Only if you're a bigot.

@dajonaneisnoah8714

Жыл бұрын

It has gotten so bad that the only way to "subvert my expectations" would be for them to produce a good movie.

As a Colombian, I don’t understand the need to cast Rachel Zegler as Snow White, I don’t want “diversity” just because, I want an accurate and entertaining film that doesn’t race swap a classic character.

@jenniek8391

2 ай бұрын

An accurate film about.... Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs? Give me a break.

@gramma677

2 ай бұрын

I think he means accurate to the German fable. I don't agree totally with that either. Just make a good film. Change it do whatever, just make it good and it's fine. But it seems clear there's no creativity going on. Like if Snow White was black and the movie was good then we wouldn't care. It's just when people start saying this movie is about diversity instead of saying this movie is good, then it's probably not gonna be good. Actually they lost an opportunity to do Snow Black. Directed by Spike Lee. That would be fun at least. Set in 80's Baltimore. "Mirror mirror on the wall who's the flyest of them all". The huntsman is Denzel. The Dwarves are a neighborhood basketball team. The Queen is that crazy super mayor. And the Prince is Prince Harry.@@jenniek8391

@kornklone

Ай бұрын

EXACTLY!

@DuraExtvia

Ай бұрын

They're incapable of making anything new or unique that is actually good. Their "directives" kill all form of free and creative thinking. So they must attach to a beloved classic like a leech and subvert it to their ends to get people to look at it and be influenced by it....only for people to reject it anyway cause you can't change human nature, for better or for worse.

@Saberking875

Ай бұрын

What does being Colombian have anything to do with this? You are just playing into the woke hand

“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”

@M-su4mh

5 ай бұрын

Amen

@SabersLionHugger

14 күн бұрын

That's simply because evil destroys everything. Corrupting an existing IP is just a subtle form of destruction.

Hearing Disney say the Hercules remake *"will be modern musical inspired by TikTok"* was genuinely the scariest thing I've ever read.

@NeroLeMorte

Жыл бұрын

Just like sony when they first greenlit the emoji movie because emojis are popular with the young kiddies nowadays.

@normadgarmez7026

Жыл бұрын

I'm like, seriously... We go from Broadway to Tik Tok for musicals. Seems like the higher ups at Disney are in major desperate mode.

@cg6176

Жыл бұрын

Yet some people will defend it and say "it reflects morals and values that could be found in the original movie"

@cybertramon0012

Жыл бұрын

When I read that description, every word filled me with dread. Are they going to have everyone act like they're in high school too? Now that I'm older I recognise that the original Disney film sanitized a lot of stuff and basically made Hercules a lot like Superman. But I still don't mind, because it was a great film. It was funny, with great action and characterization. It even had a message of 'A hero is defined by their heart, rather than their actions.'

@liboud22

Жыл бұрын

So, people would be eating tide pods in the movie?

I just don't understand why Hollywood, TV and Cinema don't realize that Twitter does not speak for the masses

@Liam1991

Жыл бұрын

Because the capitalist class lives in their own world

@MAGAMAN

Жыл бұрын

Because they don't care. They are staffed by the Twitter retards.

@Valencetheshireman927

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood lives on Twitter, to them Twitter represents the opinions of the masses.

@jamalisujang2712

Жыл бұрын

It's a a part mass media complex spreading mental contagion by elevating one idea to gaslight people to think the thing they peddle is normal.

@wrongthinker843

Жыл бұрын

They understand it. This is called cultural subversion. Why do you think they're not worried about losing billion after billion?

As someone who was a part of the “modern audience” as a teen, a lot of it is emotional immaturity and the almost cultish approach to “woke” culture. Being told by the internet that if you don’t hit the diverse cast checkboxes, or write minorities with flaws, or include any amount of offensive humor, you’re a shit writer, really got into my head as an emotionally immature teen and caused a lot of unwarranted guilt. My dad showing me The Drinker kickstarted my escape from that mindset, and I’m looking forward to becoming a good writer instead of a “woke” one lol

@kattimate

9 ай бұрын

What a good dad you have for doing that, saving his kid from the woke terminal

@DrumstickGaming

9 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s nonsense. If you start with a solid story with good characters first, your message will likely come out 20x more naturally than if you start with the m e s s a g e

@AJHyoton

8 ай бұрын

As your thumbnail shows, you can evolve into many directions. I recommend the water pokey man, but the electrical one is probably the most successful. Read good writing. Gonna write scripts? Gotta read them so you know the template. Though you want your story to fit the frame, it also needs to grow organically from within you. Write your story for your Dad and not the world. Has a better chance of reaching the world that way. Good luck

@starmnsixty1209

7 ай бұрын

Three loud cheers!!

@MaticTheProto

7 ай бұрын

Sure. When I was a teen I went down the right wing pipeline. Now that I‘m an adult I can see that pretty much anyone using the term woke is a moron who does not understand the proper context of things and would rather attack minorities than the capitalist corporations when they screw up

damn, i'm so relieved we could at least have the Lord of the Rings right before the collective madness really set feet in our pop culture.

@martin0499

8 ай бұрын

In retrospect those movies may very well be the end of an era

@JMBBrasil

3 ай бұрын

Me too. I love that trilogy.

Imagine replacing characters because of the color of their skin and it not being considered racist.

@doosin8696

Жыл бұрын

Jesus joined the chat

@DimkaTsv

Жыл бұрын

Also changing character [se**al orientation]/[gender identity] from original in source to "modern audience standard"... Here, in Russia we call this "sjw agenda". Really feels like you see this one almost everywhere nowadays. And in addition most of times film itself is not interesting as well. Stopped watching newer movies and cartoons about 10 years ago.

@onlyfoes

Жыл бұрын

Imagine knowingly ignoring today's definition of racism bc it doesn't fit your narrative. You can have prejudice against white ppl but you can't be really racist against them.

@gameking8809

Жыл бұрын

@@doosin8696 back then it was done out of necissity since they didn´t have many actors of clor in Hollywood.

@fp9556

Жыл бұрын

@@doosin8696 Do you know what Jesus actually looked like? Can anyone be sure? If I had to guess, I'd say that you don't even have any idea of what the ethnic and cultural make up of the region where Jesus supposedly originates from was like, bearing in mind that Arabic people came to the region much later.

“We want the film to reflect the world we live in.” *Depicts tiny women beating up big men*

@harya7517

Жыл бұрын

And the grimm realistic of real life struggle

@seacrest73

Жыл бұрын

So succinct and perfectly stated.

@ShesNotAPeanut

Жыл бұрын

None of the women have muscle either..

@IonorRea

Жыл бұрын

There are movies where the woman vs man fight is depicted in a way that women could win in real life too by using their agility and wits even without being bodybuilders, not every filmmaker has a competent enough crew to train actors to perform that though... That's why we see tiny girls pushing back much stronger men in a way that makes zero sense, it's not that women cannot win against much stronger men but that many filmmakers are incompetent enough to even see how silly their movies often look from point of anyone with close combat experience who got reasonable ideas about what can and what cannot be done against a much stronger opponent. The idea of putting a woman on an equal plane in movies is not bad in itself as old stories often depict the woman as inferior weak-minded beings by default from times when they were trading articles for property or even valuable animals, just the implementation is often silly, thus looking like a forced social engineering project where a woman is portraited in a way where it competes with a man physically in a manner that did not correspond with reality. Don't forget that even princess stories in decades-old movies were often already modified to be consumable by an audience of that time, we just remember the good examples that were not done by incompetent people, while today we see all that junk production despite the ratio between good and bad movies in AAA titles may not be significantly different, there is just far more of them per year around the world. Bad movies in old days had a far lower chance to lure audiences anyway as new production with good special effects and promotion campaign available these days make it possible for mediocre movies to be somewhat profitable today, so the main anger with new junk production is mainly in the fact that they still managing to make a lot of money despite even though they may deserve none, thus creating an incentive for more bad movies to be created. The fear of the success of low-quality products setting new standards we are unwilling to support is why people concerned with the quality of products watch reviews and actively fight against their proliferation in the first place. We just often want to see intention where is just sheer incompetence, there always were resorurce restrictions whatever in time or money, if anything, todays movies got budgets few decades ago could only dream about.

@noless

Жыл бұрын

@@ShesNotAPeanut Or really any training. They just do a lot of cuts to make it seem like they can fight. Usually looks terrible.

I once saw a saying that these remakes were "ruining my childhood". No they are not. My childhood was great I got to see these shows and movies as they were originally made. They are ruining the childhood of the kids today with these terrible remakes and censoring of the past.

@kattimate

9 ай бұрын

True that

@MaticTheProto

7 ай бұрын

Censoring of the past? Now you are probably mentally american, but uhh… the original Disney movies already heavily censored the source material.

@cigoLxeL

7 ай бұрын

@@MaticTheProto "Mentally American" sounds a lot more intelligent compared to the inanity you're spouting.

@redsentry9785

4 ай бұрын

​@@MaticTheProtowrong

@MaticTheProto

4 ай бұрын

@@redsentry9785 bro I‘m German, every fairytale was censored by them

If Modern audiences actually existed these shows, movies, and games wouldn’t all be failing.

@MaticTheProto

7 ай бұрын

I mean… said minorities and left people exist. They just aren’t a target audience for garbage movies

I recently saw a TikTok video where a guy said The Breakfast Club has not aged well because of “the crotch shot”. That’s right, a film about five students that come together as strangers and leave as friends after opening up to each other about suicide, depression, peer pressure, parental neglect and abuse and directed by one of the greatest filmmakers of the 80’s if not all time has not aged well because of a three second panty shot.

@recitationtohear

Жыл бұрын

Link to the Clip : reason why modern movie is bad kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3eau8twZpaaorg.html

@nix2939

Жыл бұрын

What do you expect from TikTok though? Isn't the average age about 15? This is all they know

@droth1031

Жыл бұрын

Oh, and let's not forget, the fact that the Bad Boy tried to get the Nerd to help him rape the Princess... And the Basket Case girl was ONLY ATTRACTIVE after her makeover! The horror...

@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro

Жыл бұрын

Seriously? I mean, I’m not gonna advocate for sexual stuff in entertainment simply because I don’t like it and have moral objections, but one teeny scene about young people doing dumb young people stuff is hardly enough to ruin a movie 💀

@stephentucker6548

Жыл бұрын

The woke-mob were calling A Christmas Story racist because of the Chinese restaurant scene. They're like terminators. They don't feel, they don't sleep, they just attack.

Older movies wanted to captivate audiences, tell stories, and build a legacy full of passion and love. Something that’s foreign to the modern movie making industry

@strategery101

Жыл бұрын

All new movies do is push THE MESSAGE.

@tengkubingit4422

Жыл бұрын

Fr. Thankfully you will found some gold.

@Rope257

Жыл бұрын

No no. You got that wrong. They love to build a legacy full of passion and love.. Up your asshole whilst screaming at you for not doing and believing everything they tell you to. I mean it sure is captivating and worth telling stories about. 😆

@shalindelta7

Жыл бұрын

This year we had 2 masterpieces, the batman and top gun. Prey was an amazing revival for a franchise as well. I'm thankful for these diamonds in the rough.

@captainmerca341

Жыл бұрын

You're over complicating it. Everything woke turns to shit and its just that simple.

Caught this one late! Excellent and well said. As a female I find it so hard to think nower days of female protagonists that are strong without it be blatantly being shoehorned into their character. The modern presentation of females, especially with Disney properties makes me continuously roll my eyes.

@bobhi2668

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I don't get why any women like that because they seem like they'd be huge bitches to just about anyone.

The thing about successful movies is that they capture timeless ideas and communicate them to a new audience.

I’m black and I am disgusted at what is happening… to have these “allies” reduce my culture to whether or not I watch a tv show or movie is appalling… I am tired of the woke media being shoved down my throat and I’m not the only one…

@GeraltofRivia22

Жыл бұрын

"If you don't watch Black Panther, you ain't black"

@jdan6122

Жыл бұрын

thats what I always imagined you felt, it must be so incredibly patronising having woke white people tell you what blackness means

@akiraishin7141

Жыл бұрын

Say it louder for the ones in the back!

@Nostalgiaforinfi

Жыл бұрын

Thank you baphomet

@henrythef1guy768

Жыл бұрын

Good to know more people believe the word “Woke” can be used in a different context than to just be progressive……………

My teenage daughter told me a few weeks ago that she didn't really like movies and didn't understand why people care so much about them. In response we have spent the last few weekends watching some of my favorites; Gattaca, Vanilla Sky, Shawshank Redemption, The Grren Mile, Apollo 13, Interview with the Vampire, Dances with Wolves, Planet of the Apes (1968), Sweeney Todd, etc and now she concedes that she actually just doesn't like modern movies. She said to me that she just hates all movies made after 2010... lmao...

@jonkoch3100

Жыл бұрын

Great shout with Planet of the Apes. Top 5 favorite movie of all time!

@paulcarmi8130

Жыл бұрын

The only thing movies are good for nowadays is watching the drinker absolutely tear them apart for being so bad

@Kesyabasturd

Жыл бұрын

Speaking of Interview with a vampire, have you seen AMC's version? it's awful.

@eduardmanecuta5350

Жыл бұрын

Well there are some good movies after 2010, but I understand her 🙂

@indigetes

Жыл бұрын

That's just good parenthood right there. Good job.

Agree totally, but just to clarify one point about Snow White. In the original story from the Brothers Grimm, Schneewittchen, Snow White was not awakened by a kiss from the man. She woke when a man fell in love with her corpse, carried away her coffin and dropped it by accident, dislodging the poison apple piece stuck in her throat which had "killed" her. Like most Grimm stories, Disney presumably found that too dark so updated it (for modern audiences in 1937) 😆

@kattimate

9 ай бұрын

For children yeah; Think about it, at least they could show a prince and not a meek and weak snowflake, or a stuck-up chic who believes she can do anything and better than a guy ya'know.

@Wertzuio

8 ай бұрын

M O D E R N E S P U B L I K U M

@poopsmith6853

7 ай бұрын

More like they specifically wanted to make a film appropriate for all audiences and had to trim some darker aspects. Belle's nasty sisters aren't in beauty and the beast either. Nor is the father responsible for her being there.

@IngenuousSoprano

6 ай бұрын

Also older than the 19th c.

@IngenuousSoprano

6 ай бұрын

​@@poopsmith6853Bluth could have done it

Those who have watched FRIENDS, remember the Bruce Willis episode where he is strong, silent, tough, protective? Rachel wants to get him to open up. What happens? See........

“If you hate the source material so much, why even bother remaking it? Why not just come up with something new?” THANK YOU, DRINKER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

@ninjustice5574

Жыл бұрын

@Classic Tate I am so confused

@wavion2

Жыл бұрын

@@ninjustice5574 That's a spam bot, man. Also, to answer the quoted question, "Because they CAN'T."

@stuartg7507

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it is a matter of hating the source material. And I don't think "they" can't come up with new interesting stories. Personally I think the studios are the problem, studios want to exploit our nostalgia dollars and peak our interest with something from our past.

@Dragonage2ftw

Жыл бұрын

Something that didn't happen, okay.

@Bhavyo

Жыл бұрын

They remake it because they hate it so much. It needs to be changed in their weird minds.

The idea of a character named "Snow White" being Columbian is absolutely hilarious!

@matane2465

Жыл бұрын

Maybe she's called Snow White because she's a drug kingpin. That's the joke right?

@drpepper3838

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@bjornh4664

Жыл бұрын

*snort*

@eraba661

Жыл бұрын

Ikr if someone did that to Black Panther then they would be flippin their tables

@fenrir834

Жыл бұрын

I could deal with that, I can very often not tell Hispanics and white people apart, the problem really is that they changed the story

The whole reason you want diversity is so you can pull in a wider audience. People ARE more likely to like your show if they relate to at least one of the characters, but people don't just relate to characters based on the race or gender of the actors playing them. It's way more important to have a cast of characters with diverse personalities. Plus, then you get to see them play off each other and that's how we get all our iconic duos, trios, and teams with all their cool and interesting dynamics.

@aper765

Жыл бұрын

i don't get why people need to relate to characters

@RichardArpin

Жыл бұрын

I've got a few hours in my logbook but I never finished my private pilot's license - I still enjoyed Top Gun and Maverick. Relating to the characters does not mean I look like them, I am more than what I look like.

@Nizhyii

Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand why characters have to be relatable. If a person is so egoistical and stuck up, they have the freedom to write whatever self insert fanfic they want to fantasize themselves in if that helps them cope or just watch media that is “relatable” to them. If a character is just a soulless and hollow entity only for self inserts then why is that even considered a character?? Instead of it being a discussion of character, it’s just people talking about how their egos are better…

@angelad230

Жыл бұрын

​@@Nizhyii A relatable character isn't a self insert. If a character shares traits with your intended audience, that audience will like them more and care more about what happens to them. People empathize more with people who they have a lot in common with. It's not a good thing (it's believed to be the root cause of all racism) but it is the way humans think, and that's something we can take advantage of in our writing. The problem with self inserts is that they often *aren't* relatable: the author assumes the reader will just assume the character shares the reader's interests so they often forget to write a believable character with interests, flaws, and a personality. People have identities, so they won't think of someone with no personality as being like them at all.

@AliciatheCho

Жыл бұрын

Frightening that people can’t empathize with the universal human condition unless someone looks like them. As if everyone who looks like is a monolith.

As a kid in the 70's, growing up in sunny Southern California, I was a big fan of Japanese action and animation tv programs. These certainly didn't "reflect the world I lived in," I liked them because they didn't reflect the world I lived in. All the characters were Japanese, all followed Japanese norms, all the scenes were Japan-centric, all were as foreign to me as aliens from Mars, but I loved these shows. Fast-forward many years, and I find myself living in Japan, and finding Japanese people who are rabid fans of old American westerns. The most popular movie ever screened in Japan was "One-eyed Jacks," a Marlon Brando western. No Japanese could relate to any part of that entire movie, yet that was why they loved it so much.

@wildmen5025

29 күн бұрын

​@breadandcircuses8127If I remember correctly, a lot of Japanese people find cowboys to be the American equivalent of samurai. Which is interesting considering that scholars see the roots of cowboy stories in European knights-errant stories which is kinda what a samurai is for the East. Everyone just likes stories about cool guys going on adventures.

The reason why Top Gun: Maverick was such a success was because they didn't pull any of this modern audience BS and just delivered a great action packed movie with an easy to follow plot. If it were to release back in the 80's or 90's it would have still been well received but not nearly to the degree it was now and that is because of how desperate people were for a movie that just wanted to entertain the audiences and not preach to them about "THE MESSAGE".

@Victimesty

Жыл бұрын

Let's see if others realise this when trying to analyse and replicate the success of Maverick. My bet is on them already churning bland sequels of similar franchise, but sticking to their losing formula.

@ViperGTS737

Жыл бұрын

while the movie was great and fun to watch, it still had a lot of PC stuff and "diverse people"

@lunisinko7498

Жыл бұрын

that might be true but I think its important to note that the female pilot for example didnt outshine her peers or the main protagonist. In a truly woke version of the movie the main protagonist would have been shown as a failing loser, no longer capable of fullfilling his task. He would have make place for the female pilot who would be better than him at anything.

@potatowaffle5653

Жыл бұрын

@@lunisinko7498 exactly and it would've subverted your attention. The second it starts for me I know what kind of show or film I am watching

@chatteyj

Жыл бұрын

@@ViperGTS737 Probably to avoid the unfounded shitlib negative press publicity of ist and phobes accusations

What baffles me is how these producers don't see that James Bond and Indiana Jones aren't *characters* . They're *fantasies* . They're handsome, intelligent, tough, get to travel the world to exotic locations, bed hot chicks, perform well in their respected professions and get to shoot douchebags. They're a male escapist fantasy, not actual characters that need to be "updated".

@stantonvalberg9814

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. But no, let's bring these characters to 21st century sensibilities.

@sifutophmasterofeyerolling2513

Жыл бұрын

>>>They're a male escapist fantasy, not actual characters that need to be "updated". Producers: I see, so what you're saying is we should make a remake of these beloved characters that cater to female audiences?

@gordonpromish9218

Жыл бұрын

ah, but, you see, me...excuse me! that should be: "cisheteronormative 46XY chromosome non-birthing persons" are not permitted to have fantasies, didn't'cha get the memo?

@hilgigas09

Жыл бұрын

@@sifutophmasterofeyerolling2513 I know you're joking but that would actually be awesome. I'm a dude and would gladly watch a movie like that.

@MagcargoMan

Жыл бұрын

But you people have a meltdown when female fantasies exist.

Never mind the Hollywood Critiquer, this guy is the enlightened social commentator I've been waiting to hear. Bravo. And a fellow Scot too!

Their modern audience is Twitter not 99% of the rest of the world. I actually saw a tweet from a writer who reminded his fellow creatives that twitter is a fraction of your audience

@khylerbane4523

2 ай бұрын

And most of them don’t even like movies anyway.

My favorite part is that the update to the dwarves in Snow white is barely an update. They were already hardworking miners and craftsmen who sold valuable jewels in order to survive in their idyllic cabin in the middle of the woods who then agree to take in a kind stranger down on her luck because she agrees to cook and clean their home while they're out working. They then basically accept her into their family and when she gets cursed, they both help destroy the person who cursed her and preserved her body until the day when someone could break the curse. The dwarves weren't comedy relief. They were the fucking heroes of the story

@abcdefghij337

Жыл бұрын

I’ll follow up on that. “Modern audiences” seem to be allergic to appropriate arrangements and quid pro quos. Cooking and cleaning in exchange for safety, food, and being treated as part of the family is a perfectly good and healthy system. They just gotta have abuse or sex involved somehow. Probably means they think they were abused as children for being forced to clean their rooms.

@astrovarius543

Жыл бұрын

@Bluespirit Listen okay, women aren't allowed to cook and clean. Those are a MAN'S domain. Leave such work to MEN, it's laughable to even consider a woman cooking and cleaning or other such housework. A women should know her place is in the mines digging up carts full of gemstones, not at home playing with woodland critters.

@3dness449

Жыл бұрын

THIS!!!!!

@OleDirtyMacSanchez

Жыл бұрын

Not in the eyes of the woke mob. Snow White is automatically entitled to room board, sustenance, and doesn't have to do anything because she's a strong independent Whahman that don't need no mian. Toxic Feminazism hard at not working.

@AoRArchAngel

Жыл бұрын

@Bluespirit Not to even mention there was basically a bounty out on her. Laying low in a cabin in the woods seems like a good idea...

"Villainy wears many masks; none so dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irving

@pettifoggingpharisee

Жыл бұрын

"We're oft to blame, tis too much proved. That with devotion's visage and pious actions, we do sugar o'er the devil himself."

@danm5911

Жыл бұрын

"You will stay here for the rest of your lives. You will be happy. And controlled." I, Mudd, original Star Trek episode.

@trainzactivist7245

Жыл бұрын

Leftism is a mental illness

@pkmcburroughs

Жыл бұрын

Hehehe. Yeah. Because TCD isn't acting "virtuous" at all, right? I mean, he's only trying to SAVE movies. Hilarious.

@robertsteinberger5667

Жыл бұрын

I liked i love you daddy because it is different from the woke movies

Interestingly, LotR also presents a female character who actively acts against the trope, both in the book and in the movies in the form of Eowyn, and the movies also give Arwen a moment of absolute badassery (originally performed by basically the Batman of the Elves, no less). And this isn't unique for Tolkien lore. I mean, freaking Luthien. Just. Freaking. Luthien. And a number of other (predominantly Elven) very badass ladies.

@leipzigergnom

5 ай бұрын

Yes! And yet those female characters still managed to be feminine and radiate kindness and gentleness to their friends and loved ones!

@GothLady1987

3 ай бұрын

I'm working on a "fanfic" of Fallout 3/New Vegas, channeling heroines like Eowyn in my protagonist. She's brilliant, beautiful, determined and driven by forces like protection and love of family. I kinda wish we'd seen a little more badassery from Arwen, but I suppose Eowyn was meant to be her foil. Arwen had love for Aragorn, and Eowyn had her love for her uncle and brother.

Getting a female protagonist would be the perfect opportunity to crank up the sexist jokes by a lot, along with reactionnary kicks to the nads or killing answers. Legend of Kyrandia II is a great example on writing a female protagonist.

@slevinchannel7589

Жыл бұрын

This video heree is kinda countered by 'Popculture Detective' actually diving into 'whats wrong with the past'

I'm reading George Orwell's 1984 right now, and I have to say; this whole "re-writing history for a modern audience" angle is basically straight out that terrifying dystopian book...

@Ihavethetouch

Жыл бұрын

Just change Big Brother to Big Sister and you're all set

@margarinesnatcher

Жыл бұрын

But it's fine because the left does it 🤡🤡🤡

@CzerwonyRymcer

Жыл бұрын

And now You are in this little part of humans who knows that we are screwed

@JimBrodie

Жыл бұрын

We've been living in a Kafkaesque amalgamation of 1984 and Brave New World for a few decades now. This is basically like adding Fahrenheit 451 into the pot.

@dadbodenvy4247

Жыл бұрын

Who gets their history from corporate movies

The fact that people choose to treat the snow white story as waiting for a prince to come and not extraordinary kindness get repaid at the end is a big problem we have in the world today. They literally look at the end result of a prince saving her life and forget the journey that took her there. Her kindness is what made the person who supposed to kill her spare her life. Her kindness is what made the 7 dwarves stick with her, help her when she is harmed. They also don't ignore the fact that your kindness can be abused as they show her get harmed for it but eventually she is still saved. The only problem that may need updated is the prince being her true love right away as the prince in the story is more of a device that serve the purpose of goodness will come to people who treat others kindly rather than a character.

@anonygent

Жыл бұрын

Something else I noticed on rewatching a few years back, Snow White goes from being a helpless girl lost in the woods to a brave, strong, confident woman who decides to make the best of a bad situation. She doesn't beg the dwarves for mercy, she bargains with them as an equal. Her labor for food & shelter.

@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Snow White was not only kind, but patient, brave, hard working, long suffering, and overall very inspiring. She didn’t let her fears overtake her and cause her to falter, she simply pushed through it. She was eventually rewarded with her own personal dream, which happened to be marrying her true love and living happily. She was a girl raised without the love of a mother, and barely knew the love of her father, and now she gets to have a wonderful family that she can raise herself. The only issue with snow whites character is her age, as she was only 14 and her prince was 30, which is highly inappropriate. But that did not factor into the original cartoon, it was simply the trappings of traditions kept centuries and centuries before, when many women died too young to wait to marry in their 30’s.

@franciscodanconia4324

Жыл бұрын

You’re assuming woke Hollywood writers understand things like subtlety and literary devices. They only understand things that are continuously whacked over their heads

@JoJo-vg8dz

Жыл бұрын

They make movies to please their community of heterophobic, androphobic white-phobic weirdos. They please 1% of audience, basically. And piss off the other 99%. But they are so narcissist and delusional that they think their little community of weirdos represents a majority.

@rogerborg

Жыл бұрын

"Agreeability" is internalised Patriarchy. Sneering, snarling, snapping dagger-eared girlbosses are the true embodiment of the feminine ideal, and the only way for a woman to find true happiness. That, and box wine, and cats.

I was watching The Nightmare Before Christmas with my kids the other day, and I realized, intentional or not, it's an excellent allegory for how modern adaptations are made. Someone reads a book, and is fascinated by it, and decides they want to make it their own. "I want it, oh I want it!" Then they insert their own ideas, preferences, and biased messaging until it only relates to the original on an extremely surface level, and the people partaking in it are left disappointed, and the piece of media is a disaster. In the end it will become abundantly clear that Christmas was better left in the hands of Santa.

@Elgsdyr

Жыл бұрын

Nicely observed. 🙂

@flamestoyershadowkill6400

Жыл бұрын

and it was not inteneded

@sqwalnoc

Жыл бұрын

damn, that's a good analogy. jack didn't understand what made people love christmas, so in trying to recreate it, he twisted it in his own image until he created something no one liked. damn

@stage6fan475

Жыл бұрын

Neat analogy!! Very Good! Thanks.

@briant7265

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant!

"Modern audiences" really means "my friends and co-workers in Hollywood."

@fr0ck360

Жыл бұрын

And “SJW Twitter users”

@mickeymickey9914

Жыл бұрын

THAT'S ANTISEMITIC

@GeraltofRivia22

Жыл бұрын

"The world we live in today" means "downtown LA".

@jenniek8391

2 ай бұрын

No, it means global audiences who watch films. Something you little conspiracy nuts have trouble wrapping your heads around.

'People who see the past as an enemy to be defeated rather than a rich tapestry of ideas and experiences to learn from.' The drinker deserves a fucking medal for this insight.

@JOHN----DOE

Жыл бұрын

It's the reaction of spoiled children who were never told "no," who never read, who got trophies for mediocrity, who were never challenged by difficult ideas in school or physical challenges on the playing field. People, in short, NOT to pay attention to.

@CVHFitness

Жыл бұрын

That's the sad thing - that this is some form of revolutionary idea. It's common sense...or, was, when sense was actually somewhat common

@silentwitness536

10 ай бұрын

Except @The Drinker, fkd up when he said @ 6:43, that LOTR was racially homogenous because it was based on Northern European Myth, but ... Wakanda shouldnt be, when its inside a racially homogenous Black Continent? lmao.

@thepissedofflandlord

10 ай бұрын

@@silentwitness536 watch it again, I think his point was that a racially homogenised wakanda is acceptable, but a racially homogenised middle earth or shire is not.

@sarov7658

10 ай бұрын

@@silentwitness536 deluded leftist can't even understand words😭

On a semi-related note, it’s incredible that Snow White still looks that good 80 years later. Amazing what art can do when you do it for the art instead of *THE MESSAGE*

@Blobbyo25

Жыл бұрын

CGI is getting worse and worse every year that passes. Compare Star Wars, LOTR, Avatar etc. To any of the most recent Disney+ shows... The art doesn't matter one bit.

@Morgue12free

Жыл бұрын

@@Blobbyo25 Yea, noticed that too. The CGI literally hurt my eyes and leaves me feeling sick

@jonbaxter2254

Жыл бұрын

I miss hand-drawn animation so much

@JDReC100

Жыл бұрын

@@Blobbyo25 thats probably due to them not giving the actuall animators and effects people enough time, going with the "good enough" or "just enough spectacle for people to not notice much" types of production lines. in all honesty theres not much more we can advance in CGI, especially at this point in time. and jusing it as a crutch to compensate for other things is so not the way to go. honestly, i think the way to go is blend CGI with IRL visual effects. some movies still do this, but not enough, and when done well its pretty great. but again, it doesnt matter how good or powerful a tool is if you cant use it properly, CGI or IRL effects.

@jmaritg3830

Жыл бұрын

It's a sad world when Snow white and the huntsman is the best live version of snowwhite we'll get.

Mulan (the original animated one) is honestly what a "strong female character" should be

@chasehedges6775

Жыл бұрын

Mulan 1998 is a classic

@steveguse4481

Жыл бұрын

Sarah Connor

@Ignirium

Жыл бұрын

Ripley

@purpleclaws202

Жыл бұрын

@Lachie well chinese audiences loved it so chill

@ArchangelChi

Жыл бұрын

Also, the original Lara Croft, Ripley from Alien, Sarah Conner from Terminator, ... - not one of which had the need to pussify the male characters in the process of their being a strong character

The problem with modern movies is... 1. Too much focus on franchises 2. Too much real world politics and a focus on "the message" 3. Whedonesque "snappy" dialogue is far too prevalent and annoying; Abrasive humor can undercut a movie completely 4. Too much terrible CGI 5. Films just look worse on digital compared to film, have you noticed how muted the colors are in movies lately? Or how they have an obnoxious blue filter? Forgot what channel I heard this term used to describe modern Hollywood movies but it's definitely factory filmmaking in the purest sense.

@theeverhum7802

Жыл бұрын

I think you're talking about Chris Gore from Film Courage. His critique on modern movies is astute and on-point. He's sick of it just like the rest of us - an actual honest critic who *wants* to enjoy the films he watches.

@nathanielroiorduna9039

Жыл бұрын

Like what drinker said these people have been praised and not challenged almost their entire lives. It’s basically people who live in their ivory towers for so long they come off as nonsensical to regular folk when they leave said tower.

@mickeymickey9914

Жыл бұрын

It's literally just the Js. It's really that simple.

@GeraltofRivia22

Жыл бұрын

@@mickeymickey9914 Kanye is right

@DaChiefoBrazil

Жыл бұрын

Joss Whedon and his style has done such horrendous damage to writing as an art form and business

There is a reason why we can still get captivated by Ancient Greek tragedies: We still fight the same fights and fight for the same virtues.

@rog6725

Жыл бұрын

We're still the same species

@slendus8363

Жыл бұрын

@@rog6725 except with a little dumber ideals nowadays which would mean most people (liberals) somehow devolved with time

@kateris1976

Жыл бұрын

Speaking of strong female characters....Antigone, anyone?

@uphilliceskater

Жыл бұрын

Hellenic tragedies were an evolution of religious sacrificial rites.

@jonathanbaker4361

Жыл бұрын

That's a great observation. How much did the ancient stories have to be adapted for modern audiences? I remember what they did to Beowulf in the 2000's and hated it. All I wanted was a screen version of the epic I read in high school. I understand cutting things to fit a run time but retooling the story is unacceptable.

"That's not modernization, its bastardization." Wordsmith, truly!

@ptptpt123

Жыл бұрын

Its almost like he is a writer himself

@rhysprendergast5842

Жыл бұрын

@Chad 007 no

@UNIRockLIVE

Жыл бұрын

@@rhysprendergast5842 report the bots

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

@@ptptpt123 He fancies himself a writer

@jenniek8391

2 ай бұрын

You are very easily impressed, I see.

If you want this trend to stop, remember that the opposite of 'love' isn't hate, it's indifference. Don't watch these films. Don't discuss or review these films. Don't go with others to see these films. Simply pretend that they do not exist and, if someone wants you to go see it with them, tell them you're not interested and leave it at that. If enough people do this, they will be compelled to stop but even if that isn't for a while, you can still hold it as a quiet, personal virtue that you have done your part in at least not contributing to the vandalizing of European culture and history.

@Ghost_Text

Жыл бұрын

Considering how physical media is slowly being phased out itd be nice if there was a larger trend among people buying more dvds and prioritizing classics over the box office.

@codiehaleyt

Жыл бұрын

THIS. I'd love if people just stopped giving this crap the attention. In a lot of cases, I don't even know if they "update" franchises to appeal to their idea of a modern audience or even themselves. They do it because they know it'll create controversy within the fanbase and controversy creates attention. Attention they otherwise wouldn't have because they lack the talent and imagination to create anything compelling. But get people angry? Yeah, that's a good way to get them talking about something.

@ryohoshi8445

Жыл бұрын

Most, if not all, of the 'updated for modern audiences' things pretty much have proven to have zero staying power--so I really don't think we need to tell people to be indifferent past "Don't waste your money or time." But Western mass media's current management isn't going to grasp what they're doing wrong and why audiences are bouncing on them if they don't get told. They're just not really diverse, because on the inside they're all the same person...and that person is a high-SES from birth (culturally) White dude...who is outright baffled by the whole "Other people are other people" thing that most people figure out in preschool. That's probably the 'modern audiences' that they're talking about, and the surprising thing is that it isn't even tinier.

@user-gj7yt1yn9b

Жыл бұрын

no, it doesn`t work this way. If one wants to stop this trend, he doesn`t stop hating it and starts taking it indifferently, he helps OTHERS IN MASS take it indifferently.

@TheReeelBradPitt

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gj7yt1yn9b yes, but people like the drinker make these movies relevant, while being too polarizing, and subjective to convince the majority of the viewers of his opinions

“Designed for past audiences” would be a tagline that would get me into a theater.

@bujharvard9313

Жыл бұрын

That's pretty much what Top Gun Maverick is, and it made a heap of cash.

@aVerySillyBilly

Жыл бұрын

or playing a newer video game, as I have 0 interest in the witcher 1 remake `for modern audiences`, Dragon age 4 made `for modern audiences` or the race swap in God of war which will lead to the next one fighting a boss in a dress after you use the wrong pronoun. people ascept it and it grows, shame as i`s saved the money for it.

@kendaar9002

Жыл бұрын

Instead of all this "Designed for ... Audience" how about designed to be good? Because I haven't seen one like that in a while

@Ghost_Text

Жыл бұрын

Or "actual" audiences.

@jon4715

Жыл бұрын

@@aVerySillyBilly Wait...Witcher 1 is not just a graphical remake? They're updating its content too?

The way they sum up Snow White's character as "Someday, my prince will come" tells me all I need to know. For real, Snow White was a small slip of a girl about to be assassinated in the woods. Wtf do they expect her to do? Do a backflip and break the bad guy's neck? No. She ran away, survived a cold, dark night in the forest, worked her *ss off to repay the dwarf's kindness (even though she's a princess), and didn't whine like a spoiled brat when nothing went her way. Classic Snow White was a good, brave girl. "Someday, My Prince" is just a freaking I Want song that's part of the freaking princess movie formula. It doesn't mean that a prince is the only thing Snow White will ever want in her life. It's just that at that moment during the movie, she simply wants to see her crush/admirer again.

@greenmenace5908

Жыл бұрын

referencing ryan george is TIGHT

@williamhanekom9882

Жыл бұрын

Preach. Thats ironically the one aspect I feel Disney will never actually bother exploring in the remake. Snow White is fairest in the land because she's a sincere hardworking selfless girl, not an overpowered beauty queen.

@blastard8980

Жыл бұрын

I fail to see the problem with "someday my prince will come". Almost ten years ago my princess showed up and I married her. Best thing ever. These modern filmmakers are lacking essential human features.

@erikfassbender4754

Жыл бұрын

Also did the actress really say it's a story from the 30s?! This story is at least 300 years old or even older. Just make a new movie if you don't like the fucking story. Also snow-white is called that because she has skin that's white as snow. I don't think the actress will bleach her skin so this is just terrible casting on top

@felicity1877

Жыл бұрын

It depends how the song is interpreted. It seems like a "I want song" if you listen without context! But in the movie, Snow White has already met her prince and fallen in love with him, so she is asking not for "any random prince to be saved by him", but she's rather expressing her desire to find her one, true love again and be able to marry him at last. And honestly, in a time without phones, without SMS or any other chat possibilties, it's indeed not likely that the prince will likely find her easily. Yes, it's a passive part for the girl, but staying safe at the dwarves offers for her a better chance to survive than running around and searching for the prince (when she doesn't know where he is or where he is from), and so she decides to dream and hope instead, and what's wrong about that? (By the way, in the originak fairy tale, the prince hasn't met before Snow White and wants to have the beautiful girl in the coffin, and then they're marrying without any plot between, and would this the better solution??? (In most of Snow White movie adaptions, Snow White has already met the prince in the beginning or at least at the castle or it would be a scary fantasy or a parody...)-

I love how something like Top Gun: Maverick dispensed with this idea and reaped the rewards. They forget that the “modern” audience is largely comprised of the same people that loved the things they’re mangling decades ago. It’s not like we all just died off.

@ziplokk1453

Жыл бұрын

"It's not like we all just died off". That's true and brings into even sharper focus the hate they have for us Gen X and older by killing off older actors like they did in Star Wars' latest sad renditions. And before they killed us off (the white men) they made us (Han and Luke) losers and emotional basket cases. Leia was a hero of the resistance still and died a beloved hero, but not the men. Kathleen Kennedy and her ilk are poisons to creativity and certainly don't appreciate the millions of positive contributions that white men have made over the centuries. They only focus on the bad ones. Is that because they secretly lusted after the bad boys but were too cowardly to be with one and so now resent the world as people of her psychological makeup are wont to do???

@lookaroundyou8108

Жыл бұрын

They hope and try to brainwash everyone

@carljohan9265

Жыл бұрын

Top Gun Maverick has made nearly 1.5 billion dollars because it did what other successful movies before it has done: Focus on things that are universally appreciated by people who watch it. 1. Internal consistency. 2. Likable characters. 3. Immersion, suspense and actual stakes. 4. Respecting it's audience.

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

Young people like traditional movie making too, they just are given the option anymore.

@jeffk464

Жыл бұрын

@@barongerhardt Like what, I didn't see anything you wouldn't have seen in a movie ten to 15 years ago

The main reason why japanese , korean entertainment is getting more and more popular day by day. They experiment with new ideas , they have originality , they want to tell a story with their media not just make money out of it. They have new innovative ideas , also while preserving their culture. They actually want to entertain their audience ( something hollywood hasn't been doing for a long time ).

@EvilDoresh

Жыл бұрын

_Kingdom_ friggin' _rocks_

@khriskirby8986

Жыл бұрын

As a fan of anime myself, I completely agree with you. I mean hell, anime extends out of their culture and experiment with other cultures (i.e. African American culture inspired shows such as Afro Samurai and Samurai Champloo). It feels the teams made those 2 with passion instead of "diversity" and "made for modern audiences".

@Keirnoth

Жыл бұрын

But this also means some of othose Westerners (i.e. the women and the men who simp for them) will end up being attracted to that media and try to change that Japanese media for when it gets ported over to the US/translated. You should see what we're having to deal with when it comes to English "localized" versions of Japanese video games. It's awful, tons of wokeists ruining them.

@Ayomista9810

Жыл бұрын

And mate the manga business is out selling comics

@yashma4187

Жыл бұрын

Of course there is still a lot of lazy bad anime made as a cheap cash grabs, but the medium as a whole is in a much healthier state than mainstream western media.

Old Hollywood: "We wanted to make money and entertain people." New Hollywood: "We want to huff our own farts."

@mattstorm6568

Жыл бұрын

You guys are blind if u believe Hollywood wasn't a degenerate propaganda factory from day 1, only difference is they used to be more subtle about it, which was actually worse.

@R3volutionblu3s

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood has always pushed poltical narratives and propaganda. The difference was that their propaganda and political narratives used to be entertaining.

@based9930

Жыл бұрын

Old hollywood cared about money, but let's not pretend they weren't pushing narratives or brainwashing the population from day one.

@herrschaftg35

Жыл бұрын

Make no mistake, Pedowood is all about profiting from their CCP master.

@hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095

Жыл бұрын

More like: "We want money and money and money and to huff our own farts."

Imagine writing your own story instead of messing with the established ones. What a world that would be...

@pastorpidgeon5980

Жыл бұрын

Indeed

@cyspiegel8603

Жыл бұрын

Imagine being given the fuckin opportunity to do so at all... but we both know that's not fuckin happening unless a white man that can give a shit about other cultures has his hands all over it.

@shocktrapproductions6332

Жыл бұрын

There's a place for that. It's called Wattpad.

@LeFacteurK

Жыл бұрын

It would require imagination, that is way too risky come on!

@RCLIM-yx8gv

Жыл бұрын

*Can't wait for the SNOW **-WHITE-** TAN fairytale remake!*

I love the fact you did a entire reel of movies that STILL hold up today compared to what we're currently getting.

@eidogarcia7600

Жыл бұрын

I watch the twilight zone for October, man that show is so fucking good and that's for the 60s man.

Thank you Critical Drinker for articulating what millions of us think.

@copysulting

Жыл бұрын

Spot on

@fernandofaria2872

Жыл бұрын

@@copysulting you articulated perfectly my thoughts on neilunknown's comment that addresses how the drinker articulated perfectly what millions of us think.

@steveguse4481

Жыл бұрын

Trillions

@mike91mdk45

Жыл бұрын

He's the voice of the cinematically frustrated, hands down

@tyree9055

Жыл бұрын

Hear here!

A lot of people claimed that old Disney princesses are just weak damsels & thus sex1$t. But they forgot that the actual eye candy, empty of personality reward is the princes, they were just there to solve the girls problems & give them happily ever after. The 1st prince to have a personality is Eric(Little Mermaid). Because they're not the protag, it's the princess the story focused on

@GIBBO4182

Жыл бұрын

Exactly..it’s the princess who is the “star of the show” Snow White, Cinderella, Rapunzell, Ariel etc…

@lordxmugen

Жыл бұрын

@@GIBBO4182 its almost like its in THE GODDAMNED TITLE!

@ruthsaunders9507

Жыл бұрын

The Sleeping Beauty prince was the first. She slept through most of the movie while he did all the fighting.

@dinogt8477

Жыл бұрын

you npc

@aokhoinguyenang3992

Жыл бұрын

@@ruthsaunders9507 He fight, but has nothing upstair. All I remember about him is that he's pretty & a good singer. This the reason it's my least favorite classic Disney movie: the princess is asleep most of the movie while the prince is as bland as the others

I am proud of not being a part of modern audience. Good video, as always.

@dinogt8477

Жыл бұрын

cry

@mickeymickey9914

Жыл бұрын

@@contrapasso1539 that's antisemitic

@Slothi_Deathi

Жыл бұрын

because the modern audience doesn't exist

@DEADALEK

Жыл бұрын

@@Slothi_Deathi no, they do sadly exist. I know some of them pesoonaly.

@NefesTOficial

Жыл бұрын

Like 99% of the world... they live in an echo chamber, thats why all the shit they push out ends up failing.

Snow White: An unusually pale woman so kind-hearted and caring that wild animals and a band of rugged dwarves do their darndest to act polite to her. So sweet and innocent that the only person who could ever hate her is a wicked jealous queen who would poison her with a false gift. So charming and lovable that when she fell, it moved a most attractive young prince to even kiss her deceased lips, bringing her back to the joy and adoration of all. What some of these "writers" don't seem to understand is that a woman doesn't need to be just like the "the boys" in all their badassery to be an endearing character that people watch over 80 years later. She can be compassionate. What greater human strength is there than the strength of all those who will rally to you?

@herheartbeats5727

Жыл бұрын

That's probably what modern movie-makers precisely cannot compute. For them, a character (especially of the "diverse" composition) just earn their likability by being sassy, egotistic, un-empathetic, and generally careless/bully-like on others. This is a big inconsistency since our general social experience (in real life) tells us that kind of behavior is precisely likely to make you unloved, un-trusted, and usually not wanted around.

@Spinosaurus44

Жыл бұрын

@@herheartbeats5727 Modern Hollywood don’t grasp that since all of them from actor to producer to writer to director have gotten where they are by being un-empathetic and stepping on other people. Can’t expect people like that to tell a good story or create a relatable character that the audience can feel for.

@savioblanc

Жыл бұрын

Just to be clear, this is Disney's Snow White. You don't want to know what the Prince did to her in the German fairy tale

@pouncepounce7417

Жыл бұрын

@@savioblanc The version i know the pale bearer stumbled and she was shaken awake, the true love kiss is disney invention (still works in how such tales where told though), but it is kinda an prince turned frog kissed back to prince theme.... so no issues there either.

@herheartbeats5727

Жыл бұрын

@@Spinosaurus44 Well it probably has something to do with those traits, though they are probably shared far beyond Hollywood (and the general entertainement industry). . Also, reminding how often the majority of us "ordinary" people accept or cheer the promotion of such samples of humanity (while also often complaining with the consequences) is not hopeful.

I don't mind Hollywood creating physically strong female characters. But I'm sick of that being that the only representation. And I'm also sick of the demonization of traditional feminity as being weak and less than. I love the traditional Disney princesses because they overcame their obstacles through kindness, compassion, patience, cleverness, and being a little daring. You can't always punch your problems.

@hoebertrabeck1621

Жыл бұрын

fun fact. a lot of boys had crushes on the strong women of the 90s. lara croft was a sex symbol. she was smart, she was badass... but you know what was best about her? she wasn't forced down our throat. we came to love her naturally. but yeah. nowadays everything is totally forced. yay media. yay cinema. i need to smoke weed now.. me sad.

@Fillycheesecake

Жыл бұрын

@@hoebertrabeck1621 nah what drew me in was not Lara Crofts badassery but her triangular boobs lol jk

@logicaldude3611

Жыл бұрын

Yes you can

@egglordsasuke8532

Жыл бұрын

Weird, because they constantly call femininity better than masculinity....

@dougsmith6262

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. They create their "strong female" character by essentially making her a man.

When these studios abandon their fanbases for modern audiences, their fanbases abandons them.

@strategery101

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood: "Best we can do is ruin your childhood memories"

@souldreamer9056

Жыл бұрын

I’d say that catering to “fan bases” is just as bad as catering to “modern audiences”. The Godfather did not cater to any fan base. Neither did Citizen Kane, Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemtion, or A Fistful of Dollars. They aspired to make a great movie, and only cater to the vision of the movie creator.

@fr0ck360

Жыл бұрын

Like Star Wars. It’s a shame some fans left before Andor aired since it’s good

@Peglegkickboxer

Жыл бұрын

@@fr0ck360 I'm glad Mark Hamill stood up against it in interviews and said he doesn't believe the new movies are canon with how they ruined Luke. Harrison Ford just bounced and wanted nothing to do with it haha.

@zizter25

Жыл бұрын

@@souldreamer9056 for original films you are correct. But for films set in already established worlds, like lotr, you do have to cater to the previous audience to some extent because they are the ones who are going to watch the new film or show.

Who wants to escape reality for a couple hours when you can be miserable all the time and even pay for a ticket

@louisduarte8763

Жыл бұрын

Not me. But then again, I guess I don't know what "real art" is.

@fancymustache3793

Жыл бұрын

Listen if im gonna be suffering from life Id wanna watch it in HD

@darianstarfrog

Жыл бұрын

Apparently we gotta buy the tickets, but not turn up, instead give them to a black family, for wakanda forever.. lol yea, sure, these people are insane.. clearly

@thatoneguy779

Жыл бұрын

As a brown person, the brown snow white is just straight stupid and anyone who says otherwise is just too stupid to realize they are bing used as a token.

@thatoneguy779

Жыл бұрын

Being* sorry was eating and texting lol

They don't want to reflect the world, they want the world to reflect their values.

@mg725

Жыл бұрын

and "values" is actually a very loose term for what those bozos think they have

@keyboardmanyoutube3189

Жыл бұрын

They put too much political correctness and western value in the movie, which are not welcomed in other countries. Western value is not universal value. Universal value is peace, happiness and sparks of human decency….

@TheHuntermj

Жыл бұрын

@@keyboardmanyoutube3189 "western values" aren't held by all western people. Maybe they are just California values and have seeped into the west through the media

@meat.

Жыл бұрын

@@keyboardmanyoutube3189 ​ woke values are not western values…not all of us are like them. The west used to celebrate wholesome values

@nerzhul2455

Жыл бұрын

@@meat. Used to. Past time

My sister went with a group of friends to see an "Updated Reimagining of a Musical Classic. Oklahoma!". At intermission, half the audience vanished. My sister stayed because they were supposed to have a late supper afterword. Later, over that meal, she learned every one in the party wanted to bail out as much as she did.

@MeanLaQueefa

Жыл бұрын

Lol. That’s golden

@Chiledyz

Жыл бұрын

Did everybody get refunds?

@AmyTee12

Жыл бұрын

Too bad! They could have lingered over an extended dinner.

@becmiberserker

Жыл бұрын

I’m trying to imagine an updated Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. That would be hilarious!

@Frisbinator

Жыл бұрын

After…WARDS!

This is EXACTLY why my wife and I have started to re-watch the movies from the 70s-2000s. Back then movies were great. You cheered on the heroes and remembered all the great one-liners or hero speeches. And why we don't go to the theater anymore. Modern movies suck.

@rhysprendergast5842

Жыл бұрын

@Chad 007 no

@TutanchAnup

Жыл бұрын

Me and my fiancée are doing exactly the same thing! There are so many good films and series from the past, we don't even miss the modern cinema.

@CrispyHulk1

Жыл бұрын

I almost exclusively watch movies from 1980’s to 2010.

@jornavyr2459

Жыл бұрын

I've been doing the same with just about every form of media that I engage with. Whether it be video games, books, music.

@LexingtonDeville984

Жыл бұрын

Same. I prefer to rewatch movies from the 70’s to the early 2010’s before 2015 happened. At least back then, movies went out of their way to entertain you and not preach to you. Even though there have been some hidden celluloid gems since 2015, they get lost amidst the endless MCU series/movies and modern remakes that end up flopping.

I still can't believe how they utterly *DESTROYED* Sarah Connor. She was everything a heroine was supposed to be.

@MikeInTheWoods

Жыл бұрын

We'll always have the first two movies

@Blobbyo25

Жыл бұрын

I think the biggest offender for me is the new Mulan film. They took a film about a woman pretending to be a man, who obviously can't keep up with the other men physically, so she constantly uses her brain and skills to find a way to win. And they turned it into a magical woman who wins fights with her own strength and power. A social commentary on female stereotypes and the hardships of living under a façade (e.g. Reflection), gets turned into a stale beat-em-up with zero moral worth. Oh, and they also managed to support genocide while filming it. Sheeeeeeesh Which is more empowering?

@LexingtonDeville984

Жыл бұрын

@@MikeInTheWoods Yep. T2 Sarah was a badass in every sense of the word.

@SolarisKane

Жыл бұрын

Fortunately they've left Ellen Ripley alone... so far.

@Blobbyo25

Жыл бұрын

@@SolarisKane Don't jinx it my dude! 😳

"Not modernization but bastardization." PERFECTLY said!

You know, all the 7 dwarves had different personalities, but you could consider them all as generous, kind, brave (when needed) and competent in their trade, even Grumpy. NO ONE EVER disliked the 7 dwarves, not anyone with a soul anyway, we love them still. Is it really a problem for them to be comedic too? That made them endearing, we never respected them less for being funny, we won't respect them more for being not funny.

@TankHunter678

Жыл бұрын

Each had a flaw core to their personality, but they each had strengths that they shared.

@IcecalGamer

Жыл бұрын

Comedy denotes intelligence, a concept that is off-putting for Modern Audiences.

@UnbeltedSundew

Жыл бұрын

Well they were also dwarves, as in magical creatures that live in the wilderness, not just some random group of seven people afflicted with dwarfism.

@peteynutt4104

Жыл бұрын

multifaceted personalities are the mark of a wizened person. we live in a land of confusion, ran by clowns, and dominated by loud mouthed fools. Wisdom does not have any place in the hectic, and depraved minds of today's culture. therefore today's gaggle of hen pecked writers are neither capable.nor allowed to write genuine multi-faceted characters.

@Andrew30645

Жыл бұрын

You shouldn't call them dwarves, that's offensive. They are people of restricted stature.

Personally, I love it when studios make these kinds of declarations about upcoming movies. It lets me know I don't need to bother seeing them.

@oompalumpus699

Жыл бұрын

My man here being smart. I'm the same, I look for the buzzwords and swipe left.

@AM-qz6cm

Жыл бұрын

same for video games.

@jeffroberts6428

Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand why you want the remake to be a carbon copy of the old one? Just watch the old one. I don’t need all the wokeness in movies but I also don’t watch Disney Princess movies, nor do I care what ethnicity they are.

@DrMcFly28

Жыл бұрын

What amazes me is that they keep making these declarations despite it being obvious they are instantly labeling their stuff as box office poison for majority of the population, even those they are arguably catering for. The costs of marketing are often almost as big if not bigger than the costs of production... and then they use it in a way that makes people less likely to see their content. Absolutely insane.

@mysterystainontherug6290

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffroberts6428 no, we want a genuine continuation of a story. What are you trying to prove? You know what the real problem is.

I used to see at least two movies a month in the theater. Now I don't even have cable TV.

@saltywinchester1600

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I only watch old movies. I threw away my TV over 10 years ago.

@kevindavid7149

Жыл бұрын

But colbert wants you to mindlessly watch him spout propaganda into your head!

@trob1173

Жыл бұрын

What is, tee vee? Yeah, I totally get that.

@debbiehenri345

Жыл бұрын

Back in the 80's and 90's, I would do my week's shopping, and then go watch a movie in the nearby cinema, before going home to my digs. That was 'every' week - there was something either well worth or reasonably worth watching. Last film I saw...The Darkest Hour. And now, sadly, we are suffering the film industry's own Darkest Hour. My local cinema shut down years ago, and then turned into a bingo hall (ffs). And there's no way that it'll be reopened as a screen again if we keep getting this endless, talentless crap from Hollywood. I am not in the least tempted to go and watch this new 'Snow White.' How the hell is the girl supposed to wake up from her poisoned sleep without love's true kiss? Omg...

@robertlandrum1971

Жыл бұрын

Same here! When I was a kid in the 70’s and a teenager in the ‘80s, I used to go to the movies almost every weekend during the spring and summer months. Now? Why bother?! What’s wrong with making a good movie, Hollywood? If I want political propaganda, I’d watch Newsmax or the Huffington Post.

The “modern audience” is a term that they use when they’re trying to gaslight their own fanbase into being perfectly fine with established source material being destroyed.

The creators of Velma certainly lived up to the pitfalls of making a series for "Modern Audiences".

@OmniversalInsect

Жыл бұрын

That show really is a tipping point in everyone's patience for such problems in media

@bezimienny5

Жыл бұрын

@@OmniversalInsect imagine how great that'll look on a resume in 10 years... unless we become so brainwashed that suddenly everyone will become a fan of the show, which hopefully won't happen

@RCLIM-yx8gv

Жыл бұрын

*Can't wait for the SNOW **-WHITE-** TAN fairytale remake!*

@trevortyrrell175

Жыл бұрын

I know right.

@lordofducks3430

Жыл бұрын

They didn't make a series for "The Modern Audience." They made a series for Mindy Kaling.

It's a miracle we even got Top Gun Maverick in this [current year] and still managed to make BILLIONS in the aftermath while being respectful to what came before of it's franchise. Fun Fact: The same director of TG: Maverick is also the one who directed Tron Legacy- another franchise movie that respected its source material.

@fancyultrafresh3264

Жыл бұрын

And "they" tried to tell us we shouldn't have fun with it too.

@abastionofbricks7575

Жыл бұрын

The two films had the same director? Dang i'm a huge fan of legacy and I didn't even know that.

@albertotensai

Жыл бұрын

Did you not understand the video? Good movies still make bank. The modern audience who dislikes these movies doesn’t exist.

@StandTheOffensive

Жыл бұрын

My dude, Mission: Impossible- Fallout is just as awesome. In fact I’d argue it’s better. That film is insanely well made. It easily obliterates the Craig Bond Era.

@raymondsmith2040

Жыл бұрын

@@StandTheOffensive I always liked MI over Craig's Bond movies even before the wokeness.

The clip of Clarice Starling in the bit about female characters is particularly striking. Writers today act like they're the first ones to discover that women aren't always treated the best, and of course all their portrayals have to be both hyperbolic and super on the nose. But in Silence of the Lambs, the film is saturated with that message without telling you it's doing that. You don't have Clarice complaining to Jamele Jamil about men this and catcalling that. You just have men either looking at her body or pretending to listen to her and then going and doing their own thing. The treatment she has being a woman in a man's world is like an anchor that weighs down the whole movie. In her scenes with Hannibal she's desperate to get him to take her seriously so he'll answer her questions. But he sees right through her and instead he observes all the things she does to get everyone else to try and take her seriously. And the irony of it all, is that he's the only one in the movie who really does take her seriously. Once he breaks down her defenses he's actually very intrigued with the woman underneath her social defenses. He takes her seriously because he knows she's intelligent enough to solve this case while most of her male superiors are tiresome to him. He knows that her compassion is real because it's driven by the trauma of her youth. And he knows that her determination means that she will persevere. All of this we learn from what he plucks from her brain, drawing out the bits of her character that make us root for her to catch Bill, and we share her frustration when the other people in their self assurances don't listen. This happens through character interaction, not through contrived hyperbolic examples or from people telling us exactly how unjust the world is. We feel its injustice with her. And this is a 35 year old movie.

@amandawilkinsontarot7096

Жыл бұрын

👏👏👏

Жыл бұрын

John Reese spitting facts as always. I love you

@Doutsoldome

Жыл бұрын

Excellent analysis. Agreed on all counts!

@blu3622

Жыл бұрын

I miss when movies didn't have dialog that is insulting with the unnecessary exposition

@invalidusername4011

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes such a "feminist" movie so disregarded by these "feminist". That small elevator scene alone in Quantico, in its direction, not telling, just putting a perspective, like it doesn't, just brilliant.

And this is precisely why I now cherish movies of the past SO much more than I ever did.

@mrrodriguezHLP

Жыл бұрын

Watch Goodfellas or Pulp Fiction with a nephew who has never seen it, and their minds will be blown. Movies were good, and dangerous.

@SeasideDetective2

Жыл бұрын

Please define "the past" when it comes to movies. For me when I was growing up, the "past" years were the 1920s, '30s, '40s, '50s, and '60s. Now, of course, the '70s and the '80s have joined them in my imagination.

Hollywood (as a whole) needs a viable competitor. We all want movies from outside the LA echo chamber, and the creators who can figure that out and bypass the gatekeepers will get very, very rich.

@jchrist9800

Жыл бұрын

Korea’s been increasingly killing it the last few years. To an objective viewer who doesn’t simply watch Hollywood movies because that’s ‘just where movies come from’, Korea is easily outshining Hollywood when it comes to visual storytelling now. Hong Kong and China aren’t doing too bad either. Asia writ-large is stepping their game up I guess lol. I also hear Scandinavia is making some of the best TV out there, but I haven’t checked any of that out yet. As for American films, you’ve got a few studios like A24 keeping good filmmaking alive, but they’re few and far between.

@hoaujudaiyubel

Жыл бұрын

Turn to anime, comic and book readers have already switched to manga so now it's time for tv and movie watchers to switch to anime.

@benjamingriswold2564

Жыл бұрын

British and Australian TV has largely gone woke as well ☹️

@gwenyfred1743

Жыл бұрын

Scorsese, Tarantino, Richie, Cruise to name a few that Hollywood could never change, all is not lost

@wilhelmburned

Жыл бұрын

@@hoaujudaiyubelwhat you really mean is "resistance is futile"

I'm old enough to remember when Hollywood started to hyper sexualize music & video; back then their response was always, "we're just giving the public what they want." Now when their audience rejects their diversity projects, they attack their audience for not wanting it.

@Dm.NixgramTheCriticalDrinker55

Жыл бұрын

DM ME 🎁🎁👆..

@purpleclaws202

Жыл бұрын

You're probably old enough to be alive during the time when racism, homophobis and sexism was at an all time high

Жыл бұрын

​@@purpleclaws202 Probably not. Unless you think homophobia, racism and sexism was at an all time high only a few decades ago.

@purpleclaws202

Жыл бұрын

@ it was...

@WarpChaos

Жыл бұрын

​@@purpleclaws202 Not

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" Mark Twain

@danielgospeller

Жыл бұрын

Hit me up🔝👆.

@carybeweary7209

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly describes Critical Drinker lol

@sebastianb.3978

Жыл бұрын

@@carybeweary7209 How?

@aidenhall8593

Жыл бұрын

@Sebastian B. Cause mf has been fooled into a delusional view of the world by people trying to use his vote

@nichoudha

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianb.3978 Because he's just espousing the reactive anti-PC playbook. What does it matter if a Columbian actress is playing Snow White? He doesn't seem to get the irony of his statement that only giving the casting opportunities to White women because of its roots (roots based on folktales with multiple endings, mind you) would indeed be intentionally racist. This is why the Hobbit had the controversy in New Zealand of not allowing any non-White actresses and actors to play as Hobbits in the background cast. He doesn't seem to critically evaluate his own comments, he's just espousing the quickest message for upvotes in a website that doesn't even allow downvotes anymore.

I’ve never once heard or met any member of this “modern audience”. In fact, I think most people are on board to be against most of this trash that gets released. The few and very loud supporters don’t even buy or view these products. We’re living in a strange backwards world and these companies would rather burn everything to the ground than to admit that they’re wrong.

@recitationtohear

Жыл бұрын

Link to the Clip : reason why modern movie is bad kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3eau8twZpaaorg.html

@MALICEM12

Жыл бұрын

honestly I think the only ones that fit this modern audience are white women (the greatest of traitors) and soyboys.

@Andrew-ho4vq

Жыл бұрын

They are more trying to create a new type of human via constant propaganda, rather than assuming the new (sheep like leftist) humanity is already the norm everywhere. Started with the commie takeover of universities as guys like Michael Rectenwald can explain to you. But these pop culture media critic KZreadrs seldom get into stuff like that, even though it sets the whole context for their criticism of the industry.

@DraugrGrog

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. There are far more incels whining about this shit than "modern audiences" demanding it in film and TV. It's cynical pandering by out-of-touch rich idiots. Stop supporting it and it'll go away eventually. If we get an healthy and appropriate dose of representation out of it, it'll be worth it.

@BillPeschel

Жыл бұрын

Years ago, I was called on to defend "Huck Finn" because Twain used a racial epithet throughout that was common among his characters. I wish I had been this eloquent and forceful as the CD.

I wish for more movies to be timeless rather than modern

@phonepunk7888

Жыл бұрын

Pop culture is disposable by design, it's why nothing it produces is of lasting value.

I kid you not, when you mentioned the latina Snow White, this was the first time I heard about this so I went to my news feed and searched it for myself. The first article on the feed (written by a woke author) talked about how people were overreacting and literally said in exact words the first sentence "it isnt woke, it just reflects the world we live in today"

@ThyN00bly

Жыл бұрын

I had not heard about it before this video either, my first thought was along the lines of: “Wasn’t she called Snow White because her skin is white as snow”

@loredana0278

Жыл бұрын

... and the world we live in today has Korean girls for example, that are pale and have black hair. It would have been so simple and still race swapped. But I guess they just need to create the controversy.

@Memoiana

Жыл бұрын

It is more than that.. research George Soros and his lobbying efforts to destroy white heritage and culture

@Syobla

Жыл бұрын

Well the woke author isn't wrong : We do live in a world where "diversity" and "inclusion" is brute forced everywhere, so that's actually an accurate representation of the modern world.

@warlocc-paul

Жыл бұрын

@@ThyN00bly Snow White skin, red cheeks, and mirror that talks about her fair skin. The mermaid thing was weird but whatever- skin color isn't a big deal for that story. But in Snow White, it's the whole story, down to the freakin' name.

Casting a POC as Snow White makes as much sense as casting Rupert Grint as Black Dynamite.

@alexalexalex797

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha accurate, the funniest thing is they stopped short of casting her as a black character, a black snow white would’ve been too much even for them😂

Frankly, current western writers don't know how to balance their characters. A male character can be James Bond levels of badass and still have emotions. A female character can be an expert in combat and still be a compassionate person. I don't know how or why we've lost that.

@KirbyEatsCake123

Жыл бұрын

You know the fact that I actually miss characters like Sharkboy and Lavagirl really shows how far we have fallen

@Jessica_Jones

Жыл бұрын

Evidently they hire people with no proper writing experience in the name of "inclusion" and you get folks with no emotional intelligence who are therefore horrendously incapable of understanding character development.

@Firstfalconfree

Жыл бұрын

The writers of She-Hulk were particularly egregious about this.

@JohnGaltGurgi

Жыл бұрын

Cultural Marxist of the Frankfurt school is the reason. All our institutions are run by Marxist.

@CrazyJabberwock

Жыл бұрын

Shark boy and Lava Girl is a movie I've come to appreciate, it's weird goofy and campy but because it leans into the idea of raw undiluted childish imagination, granted when I was that kids age I was fantasizing about the cast of beast wars teaming up against the shadows from balylone five or fighting the forces of hell itself.

My mom came up to me and asked "have you seen the latest James Bond? Why did they do that to him? So they just ended the franchise? Are they never going to make a James Bond movie again?" I said, "no, mom. They are going to hire a woman to take up his name." She paused and looked at me confused. And after a few minutes she finally said, "But.... that's stupid" and walked away. That's modern "entertainment", mom. She later came to me and asked a similar question about Thor Love and Thunder. But she didn't make it through that one lol she gave up when they met Zeus.

@LexingtonDeville984

Жыл бұрын

The producers have already said that they won’t be making James Bond a female.

@fenrir834

Жыл бұрын

Your mom actually enjoys action movies? That's good

@jamiemillbank8477

Жыл бұрын

My mate called the new bond . No time to shag

@JoaoPedroPT696

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people asked that question.

@nyetzdyec3391

Жыл бұрын

Sean Connery was, hands down, the most legendary and most popular James Bond ever. He was also sort of the epitome of "toxic male", in the sense that he was "toxic" because he was VERY "alpha", and did NOT (apparently) have a feminist bone in his body. And YET... WOMEN consistently voted him one the sexiest men alive... even up until about 2000... by which time he was 70+ years old. Let think sink in... the prototypical stoic alpha male... NOT the whiny emotional soy-boy "male feminist".

and ends in "akanda".. best line ever.

I really like that "modern audience" label. They proudly advertise a movie, show or game with it and you know that you don't need to even bother. A real time and money saver!

Without question, this is the best, most accurate and most desperately needed video you have ever made. This should be required viewing for the entire world, not just the talent-free hacks currently ruining pop culture in Hollywood and elsewhere. Thank you for making it and illuminating the truth for all to see. Long live The Critical Drinker!

@terrygallo8999

Жыл бұрын

I still put “Why we need heroes” at the top of that list. But this is absolutely up there.

@hughjass69933

Жыл бұрын

There's plenty of good movies every year. Problem is people like Drinker and some in the comments only watch Marvel and Star Wars movies and don't support the good movies we do get.

@all-starsilver1835

Жыл бұрын

@@hughjass69933 Well, they watch the movies that get the most attention and will be having the most impact. It's only logical. And the drinker does occasionally review smaller movies, or mention lesser-known films to make a point, it's not like he's completely ignoring everything else

@longtsun8286

Жыл бұрын

@@hughjass69933 Because those movies are NOT from an English-speaking nation. He'll have to read subtitles to understand what's going on.

@paulholmes8398

Жыл бұрын

Your so right but snowflakes aren't ready to look in the mirror yet. Plenty more participation awards and patting each other on the back for trying your best while losing millions for the company you work for to go yet. The bottom is a way off yet. Seatbelts everybody its going to be rough but its always darkest before the dawn.

Critical drinker is the pinnacle, the mecca of reviews !! so many KZreadrs won't say what he says because of fear of getting canceled or losing followers

My fiancé has a pretty woke mindset when it comes to media and definitely defends the “strong female protagonist” narrative being pushed currently and it really sucks to watch older movies like Benchwarmers for a good laugh and she made the comment “that women was definitely written by a man” and I wanted to say something but it would’ve started an argument that I don’t want to have but I think I’ll need to at some point

@sca4789

Жыл бұрын

You better run while you still can.

@DarkSygil666

11 ай бұрын

My gott man. Get out while you can. All the looks in the world will fade. All the women today written by women suck. Just ask her who wrote ripley or sarah connor or any of those other great female leads. Could she tell if a man wrote those? Those are some epic women. Not the crap fest we get today.

@gunman598

11 ай бұрын

Don’t get married please it will be a mistake

@MultiBeast301

10 ай бұрын

Lol you're fucked if you wife her. Leave while you can and get a refund on that ring

@kattimate

9 ай бұрын

I'm glad i have a partner who we would banter each other with sexist jokes and laugh about it. Growing up with 5 brothers gave me a sense of humor

Critical Drinker is the hero we didn’t know we needed

@roninaround6450

Жыл бұрын

But the the one we had to have.

@nunyabizness6595

Жыл бұрын

Oh we knew.

@alkazaryyy

Жыл бұрын

we needed him, we knew it, he appeared

@tidussawyer3206

Жыл бұрын

Idk about you but back when the world started going all snowflake woke I knew from the get go we needed voices like the drinkers to be the voice of reason, I wish I had the patience to learn to edit videos, but I don’t, so I was happy to find someone like drinker out there calling out the bullshit.

@seanmiller5460

Жыл бұрын

Not all heroes wear capes... but some do polish off their 3rd bottle of whiskey by noon.

"Updated for modern audiences" = We'll take something that was unique and turn it into something that feels like everything else.

@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU

Жыл бұрын

It means it will deliver THE MESSAGE and social engineering.

@lugi25

Жыл бұрын

@@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU predictive programming

@MikeInOregon

Жыл бұрын

Same people think growth and change means progress and improvement.

@darthjekyll3648

Жыл бұрын

what if we remade masa musa with a white guy? wouldn"t that be weird.

@lenini056

Жыл бұрын

I guess you never heard of an old hippie but wise term "times-there-are-a-changin" because no one in drinker's fan base wants that including the druken Scottish haggis himself. Even if there's a movie that has inclusion with great writing, characters and storyline done by proper professionals, you won't see it because the film has people YOU HATE. Lightyear became a fail because the movie was truly meh, new Thor movie since it felt rushed and of course "Strange World" which no one heard of nor promoted (not even Disney promoted that!) Until you reactionaries spoke about it. This is the days you all wanna go back to and I know because I'm 33 and lived through them. 1. Gay bashing was the norm 2. When news stations vilified minorities night after night on the evening news making that ok to be racist. 3. When women knew their place 4. And offensive jokes were shrugged off despite the real life consequences they caused. Then the marginalized spoke out from their persecution and you all got terrified because the days of being a bigot was being numbered. I know experience since I myself used to be a fundamentalist Christian and did everything you all do for "hobby".

You touched on something that I think is vital in these times. Genuine respect for differing perspectives. I remember when that was the definition of being an American....free speech and expression was the defining feature. We can have dramatically differing opinions but will defend your right to have them. There was a time when the ACLU defended actual NAZIS right to march in the streets of Skokie Illinois and it was held up as an ideal for Americans. That is the America I miss. One that felt confident enough to allow for different points of view to use the public space equally. Now we are all cultural cowards that need constant protection from using our own minds. We have outsourced our thinking and have become sheepish robots.

@kattimate

9 ай бұрын

Well, can't speak for all Americans, especially since I'm not, I'm just in upside down land, although I can't say much for city folk, country folk are a different breed of human, and the only ones I have met with sense with what's actually decent and less sheep minded.

@MaticTheProto

7 ай бұрын

Sorry, but your rambling is horseshit. America never truly stood for freedom of speech. If you honestly think it did then only because you belonged to a group that was free to speak about their agenda. But I suppose when you grow up in America these details aren’t taught to you

That has to be the finest collection of brief movie moments ever assembled. And great commentary too!

I had someone get pissed at me when I said "I'll keep my opinion to myself since it's an unpopular one." And they STILL got angry. They could only guess what I thought and I guess it's always the worst thing in their imagination. If they used that imagination to write an original screenplay, we wouldn't be in this mess.

@sjonnieplayfull5859

Жыл бұрын

They are not allowed to use that creativity on screen: what if they decide to make a woman realistic, give her fears and motives other than 'we have to fight patriarchy' ? That would be disastrous!

@Bapuji42

Жыл бұрын

They could just see a Neuremberg rally running inside your head. To them, anything they disagree with is LITERALLY HITLER.

@mallorycarpinski1160

11 ай бұрын

They would just assume the worst no matter what you said anyway.

@TyeArtisik

9 ай бұрын

Smh

@nickytommymancinelli8066

9 ай бұрын

Don’t HIDE anything ever

I went out to have a coffee with a girl I met online and she was into cinema. Incredible, she stated a lot of the things you point yourself, including James Bond. You´re just not a "critic for criticism", your job is providing a voice to countless people who don´t (no pun intended) identify with the way Hollywood is making movies these days. Keep up the good work Drinker!

@IceBroncos86

Жыл бұрын

So... when's the wedding?

@Chris-es3wf

Жыл бұрын

@@IceBroncos86 never. Coffee dates = hinge/tender meet up before the 304 heads to Chad/Tyrone house 🤣

@Halo4beatsB02

Жыл бұрын

@@Chris-es3wf oh come on don't say that maybe he's a chad/Tyrone himself

@DamianSzajnowski

Жыл бұрын

@@Halo4beatsB02 then he won't pursue relationship (extrapolating the Chad/Tyrone logic)

@reventon_4442

Жыл бұрын

What a load of bullshit, girls don't exist

I'm so thankful for your videos. They are so frustratingly, depressingly accurate.

@jenniek8391

2 ай бұрын

Woke = bad, right? SO deep.

@avalonjustin

2 ай бұрын

@@jenniek8391Would you like to talk about why people don't like woke policies? I'd be happy to.

@avalonjustin

2 ай бұрын

@@jenniek8391Didn't think so.

One of your better-written monologues, with a great edit of footage. Bravo. All so acutely true. (Love the shots of Lazenby, BTW -- an underrated Bond.)

@slevinchannel7589

Жыл бұрын

This video heree is kinda countered by 'Popculture Detective' actually diving into 'whats wrong with the past'

To quote Dr. Malcolm: "You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you wanna sell it." They want the all the money and prestige that comes with a legacy IP without any of the work that goes with it.

@RoninDave

Жыл бұрын

Like he was speaking to JJ Abrams and have ilk

The funniest part about Snow White being latina: The mother of SnowWhite injured herself while sewing. Her blood dripped on the snow and the mother found it so beautiful while looking out of the window and wished herself a kid which skin would be so white as snow, lips red as blood and hair black as ebony

@marilena7848

Жыл бұрын

The scene you describe appears in all of the Blancanieves (Snow White) books, cartoons, shows, etc., in Colombia, where I was born and raised. Accordingly, the character is always portrayed with pale skin, red lips, and black hair. The AMERICAN girl, Rachel Zegler, wouldn't know that since she is not really Colombian. She just has one grandparent who was born in Colombia but moved to the US decades ago. In any case, Zegler would not normally be given that role in Colombia. There are plenty of Latina actresses with pale skin that they could cast.

@Bapuji42

Жыл бұрын

​@@marilena7848pale skin BAD

@nzeusman8215

Жыл бұрын

@@Bapuji42 Your reply BAD

@Bapuji42

Жыл бұрын

@@nzeusman8215 Not as bad as pale skin.

@Bapuji42

Жыл бұрын

@@nzeusman8215 also, Orange Man WORSE

Historically, Bond did change once. On Her Majesty's Secret Service. He got married, and Blofeld killed his new wife. The movie basically ended with Bond crying over her body. It was remarkably sad in tone compared to the norm. The next movie opened with Bond going on an unmitigated killing spree of bloodthirsty revenge. It reminded me a lot of The Godfather, when Michael's first wife in Sicaly got carbombed. A really sobering moment. If I recall, it's one of the reasons Bond stopped letting himself get attached to people, at least for a while. I seem to recall this was also the movie where an actor played Bond only for one movie, and then didn't keep the role because they thought he was unusually dramatic as Bond. But I doubt anyone making these new movies have watched enough of the old stuff or read the books to know any of this.

@dgstellario4433

8 ай бұрын

Sorry to bother, but did you read the books yourself? Cause if you did, you would be rather more humble and accurate when criticizing creators of modern Bond movies - as they finally did get 007 right as Fleming wanted him to be: empty-hearted, cold-minded killing machine in HM’s hands, a shipwreck of a person, the one fills his hollowness and grief with substances, but yet not a plain drunk. (And he was never actually attached to anyone, not just for some time). It was Connery and Moore - especially Moore - who got 007 wrong; easy-going, elegant, ever smiling English comedian is almost the exact opposite of Fleming’s original character. The hardest irony there is that it were Connery’s 007 who was adopted to ‘modern audience’ of that time - and the script differed much from the original books (sometimes almost completely, like in ‘you only live twice’). But you seem to have nothing against the ‘modern audience’, it seems, unless you’re not in it. Also the real reason that Lazenby left is because of his disdain with film crew and because his agent convinced him that 007 will become obsolete and forgotten quite soon. What they both did not consider that there are millions who will consume the same story over and over again - including the sorry author of this video. He himself is the part of ‘modern audience’, albeit of the 80s, and just has a problem with ‘modern audiences’ of these days. The most ironic of all is that he regards the art the very same way SJWs and Hollywood producers do - as a mere product - and when he’s not targeted, he plays the crybaby the same way SJWs do (which is, coincidentally, the content of this video) The only thing he got right is there are no ‘modern audiences’ - there are different stories without any audience targeted beforehand (so you either listen or stop whining about the story not being appropriate for you) And James Bond’s story is one of them and was in fact drastically different from Connery era movies. And Barbara Broccoli’s response is right if you look at it from another perspective: there is a whole load of action movie franchises like Bourne and more a more are spawn, how do you compete with them on their own field? You don’t. You have to come up with another story and another character. Luckily, there is a reliable source.

@mikeroe7943

7 ай бұрын

No, that's fine. I seem to recall having read two of the books but it's been decades. Since it's been two months since I replied to this video (I really don't want to watch it again), my recollection was simply that everyone seems to have their own impression of "Bond", and it's apparently quite easy to consume enough of it to either forget or omit the rest and still treat yourself as an authority. This doesn't actually bother me that much with a case like this, since there is so much material out there that I think it's understandable, but it felt like an important detail from earlier movies was being ignored. I'll take your word that the author never let him get attached to someone, as it doesn't change that it occurs in the movie.

Frankly, everything correctly analysed and deconstructed in this excellent dialogue should be made statute law instantly. Thank christ for the sanity-restoring healing powers of The Critical Drinker's take-no-bullshit analytical breakdowns. Faith in common sense retained!

I was an actor in my 20s in the early to mid 2010s when all this crap was starting. I took a solo-show workshop where you write and perform a scene from a solo performance. Storytelling was a big part of the class. Despite this, I was the only one who came up with a fictional story and character. Everyone else either used it as a therapy session to whine about their problems or to push a certain message. Over time, I began to realize that very few people in the industry actually wanted to just make quality stories. Little by little, everything had a political message and something you wanted audiences to think after they watched your show/film/etc.

@ralphharrison6622

Жыл бұрын

the only requirement i have when selecting a movie or show to watch is if it has a good story and good characters. its truly a drag when i literally spend half a standard films run time looking for a film to watch.

@PorchBandit

Жыл бұрын

And we must be the ones to fight back by making quality content.

@frostreaper1607

Жыл бұрын

Well that's bleak for the future ...

@smellyfinger684

Жыл бұрын

Like when me and my dad walked out of a showing of Black Panther. I turned to him and said “that was shit” That’s what I was thinking and everyone within earshot agreed with me.

@mrszmatan2727

Жыл бұрын

@@ralphharrison6622 My favorite author once said that movie/tv show/book/comic needs to have balance of story, characters and world building. But great characters are definitely strongest of those and any work with great characters but decent story and decent world building will be much more likeable than great stories or world building with decent characters. Problem is that modern movies just love to ruin characters and what they stand for

For those who may not know, this content creator is an author with really great books in print, digital, and audio formats. I just finished the second one in his Ryan Drake series, and I know I'm just some random KZread person, but I highly recommend these works to anyone who enjoys this channel's content!

@liquidanimations3397

Жыл бұрын

I actually had no idea about that, thanks for the book recommendation!

@rogermcbadlad2812

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been meaning to try out the Drake books.

@kaasmeester5903

Жыл бұрын

Not exactly my bag, but I just picked up Dark Harvest on my e-reader instead.

@theeverhum7802

Жыл бұрын

Check's in the mail 😉 No - I need to read his books, though, really.

One thing I noticed with modern movies is they have a cut every 2 to 5 seconds. It changes camera angle, cuts to wide shot, close up shot, flips between different characters, it's non stop. I watched Pulp Fiction for the first time recently and it was so different watching scenes be on the same camera angle for 20 seconds or longer. Crazy how noticable it is.

@kenhoyer8601

Жыл бұрын

I agree the cuts and quick angle shot in movies is a replacement for quality. Sort of like a band that plays real loud because their not very good .

@-Siculus-Hort-

Жыл бұрын

it's the tik toc camera "work".

@niall21

Жыл бұрын

@@-Siculus-Hort- It's been around far longer than tiktok...

@seanolaocha940

Жыл бұрын

Shot lengths have been declining for decades so that's not a phenomenon only of "modern" movies.

@matheuskirisame

Жыл бұрын

It is something made for people who can't focus more than 5 seconds in a "static" scene, so they can keep their attetion on the screen since we live in a generation where people just can't sit back, relax and enjoy slow things.

One of the best of a good bunch. Great video.