"Anything masculine is bad, unless it's a woman doing it."

@peakdennis1

Жыл бұрын

Can you imagine prime Newman, Redford, McQueen, Eastwood and Gibson existing in hollywood today. No I can't either because they'd never be given a single role, the millions of morons today would be offended by everything they represented. Chris Hemsworth and pals AKA the watered down versions of those fuckin legends will also go extinct one day because of how offended by masculinity "modern audience's" now are.

@incorectulpolitic

Жыл бұрын

Back when I used to reddit, I made a post asking people what would they say if they had to convince someone to come here and be their kid? The catch was, whatever was omitted was sure to happen. Surprise surprise, no one had shit to say. It's crazy because there's this subreddit about the earth being a prison planet and even with that perspective people were still saying they'd have kids. It was remarkably unbelievable. I'm like "why would you bring people to prison on purpose?" Makes no sense. I understand not having come to that awareness yet, but once you do...how in tf can you justify cursing someone?? They'd say "it's better we have the kids so we can tell them the truth about this prison planet" and I'd say "so you're going to bring someone to prison just so you can tell them they're in prison? How about don't bring them to prison at all?" People kill me. Selfish desires apparently override sensibility; nothing new under the sun, I guess. '#[]

@prodyung829

Жыл бұрын

It's not that masculine women are bad is that a lot of masucline women take it overboard and be too argumentative, combative, nonagreeable. What man would want that? none! Most men a long day at work when I come to a nice warming loving wife not some argumentative woman.

@gabrielmartins-xt6rx

Жыл бұрын

@@prodyung829 If they want to write women like that, no problem, my problem is with the double standard of chatising men for certain characteristics and praising the same ones when it's on a woman. If being angry and agressive is bad on a man, the same should be aplied to women, at least make the effort to be consistent on your views.

@mabaker

Жыл бұрын

Unless Mikhalia doing it and nice guys fawning on her.

It's funny, they don't want men to stereotype them and yet they sterotype men.

@chasehedges6775

Жыл бұрын

Hypocrisy and irony knows no bounds or limits

@LarryBonson

Жыл бұрын

The stereotype plans into the moral high ground by them blocking any stereotypes of them while stereotypes us gives them the moral high ground advantage.

@sew_gal7340

Жыл бұрын

The weird thing is that modern writers hate men but create female characters with all the stereotypes and tropes of strong male characters....so strange and weird. There's also nothing wrong with feminine women, in fact feminine women are possibly more powerful than masculine men as one requires brute strength while the others require mental finesse.

@abodieqwerty4678

Жыл бұрын

@@sew_gal7340 masculine men aren't all brute strenght.

@jadedforeman1503

Жыл бұрын

It's almost like they're just scumbags with a chip on their collective shoulders instead of real idealogues.

Men want to watch strong male characters, women want to watch strong male characters; who are they trying appeal to?!

@jefferyjeff7132

3 ай бұрын

It’s a Chinese psyop

@easygoingperson8787

3 ай бұрын

They’re trying to appeal to snowflakes, teenagers, and maybe even adult idiots too.

@aurallistine

3 ай бұрын

@@easygoingperson8787 I'm a teenager and I would never watch this woke stuff

@tavaresemanuel640

Ай бұрын

@@Neddinator Leave Forrest Gump out of this, don't give them any ideas. Pretty sure they would find a way to consider Forrest Gump toxic.

@rekik2936

Ай бұрын

@@aurallistine W.

My father told me this once as a kid "dont change a perfectly normal tire, it will just waste your time" bless him

Can't write men, can't write women, can't write people..... Can't write humor, can't write good wholesome messages... Basically modern movies suck because investors are telling Disney, Netflix, HBO Max and the rest to hire writers and directors based on their tweets, not on skills or experience.

@jimmyb79

Жыл бұрын

Completely agree

@petriew2018

Жыл бұрын

ironically they can't write women either anymore.... they work way to hard to make them all dudes....

@need-to-know-

Жыл бұрын

They just suck at writing anything but their signature on checks.

@r3altalangodfrey39

Жыл бұрын

EXCUSE ME....EXCUSE ME, SIR! How else do you expect US to do the gr3atres3t, if we, at vanguard, state street and black rock and our overlord from the WEF/davos doesn't guide Disney, Netflix and HBO Max to the right way of things, like agenda 2o3o....y'all didn't even the shot, so we can't even do the Georgia Guildstones. what do you want US to do, dammit?

@perry92964

Жыл бұрын

if the investors are woke then they want a woke project, no investor is going to risk money on something they think might fail unless they need a huge tax right off.

“I’m surrounded by a lot of women in this department. And that includes the men” - Ron Swanson

@the-real-Lovefist

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t have said it better myself

@deadman4231

Жыл бұрын

As expected, the bot links to a video about how to make pizza

@SirWeedBongVentura

Жыл бұрын

Every day I put my feet on the floor, I know I am soon to walk amidst the parasites.

@SeraphsWitness

Жыл бұрын

I love how Ron was meant to be some outrageous parody, but he ends up making more sense than anyone on the show.

@MrJC1

Жыл бұрын

@@deadman4231 yes but... its the full video of how to make it. 🤣🤣🤣

They hate women too. They've taken this "ain't no damsel in distress" concept too far to the point where these female characters aren't compelling at all. I don't think they realize that characters who are seriously flawed are MORE interesting not less. Female characters can't be feminine or beautiful or graceful anymore because we think that's weak now. No it's not. Women have their own strong traits that are different from men. It's the balance of masculine and feminine that makes it work: one can't work without the other.

@viniciusvalois2634

11 ай бұрын

No matter the time or age, modern or old-school TV and movies, there is a pattern that always repeats flawlessly: Male-oriented productions show men as being strong, badass, creative, brainy, focused, adventurous and ambitious but always portraying women in the same positive light of an "ideal companionship"; on the other hand, female-oriented productions always are an obligatory shitstorm of "fem power everywhere, males are abusive monsters or weakling idiots". That's why I prefer movies from the mid-1990s and backwards (Sean Connery's James Bond is an impeccable classic), because they valued and respected men above anything without limiting them to "walking penises or mindless killing machines".

@petee1968

10 ай бұрын

Hollywood just hates characters, period.

@linsqopiring6816

10 ай бұрын

That's not hating women that's when trying to make them superior to men goes wrong.

@linsqopiring6816

10 ай бұрын

@@viniciusvalois2634 Very astute observations. IT's not turning the tables. The tables were never so lop sided.

@ms-ht1cj

10 ай бұрын

Because "women traits" are not respected, it's no wonder no one wants to be described like this. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Most men like strong male characters; most women like strong male characters, but no... we can't have them anymore, can we?

@darnit1944

10 ай бұрын

Most men and women like strong female characters. We just don't like flawless Mary Sues without weaknesses.

@Attmay

9 ай бұрын

Gay men want and NEED them more than anyone else. They have been systematically destroying everything Gay MEN like since the end of the 1960s. First movie musicals, then disco, now our bodies.

@hikkamorii

9 ай бұрын

@@darnit1944 strong characters, no matter your or character's gender are aspiring. Issue is that writing actual strong characters is difficult, and may be misunderstood by certain people.

@DiederikHuys

8 ай бұрын

Yeah well Terminator managed to combine both strong male AND female characters in one franchise. Who could have known! @@darnit1944

@darnit1944

8 ай бұрын

@@DiederikHuys By franchise you mean T1, T2, and Salvation right?

Seeing that quote from Feige where the entire character of Doctor Strange was reduced down to simply "white male" really exemplifies the problems with the current creative scene. Writers genuinely seem to care more about the race and gender of a character than any of their other traits.

@liamphibia

Жыл бұрын

Audiences and even die-hard fans would've loved seeing Stephan make an appearance in WandaVision!

@twobighams

Жыл бұрын

Yea, just like I don't deduce Benedict Cumberbatch is a terrible actor because of his attempt (or lack thereof) of a Boston accent in Black Mass. He's a pretty good actor, but christ that was bad.

@Pointman11111

Жыл бұрын

I hate that he said Its so dumb but still i don't believe that it was a story reason why he didn't appear We know the Pandemic messed up almost every MCU movie and series The finale of WandaVision felt rushed and like many plot points weren't resolved

@ohnosmoarlulcatz

Жыл бұрын

Doctor Strange also got mansplained by America Chavez.

@MrGhosta5

Жыл бұрын

He could have just lied and said Benedict Cumberbatch had a scheduling conflict and couldn't make the filming.

they’ll never write better movies than the kung fu panda movies

@NateTheGreat368

Жыл бұрын

Based

@rubydearest

Жыл бұрын

A classic

@KFP_Fanboy

Жыл бұрын

but other movies are good too, i love marvel, star wars, dc, indiana jones, karate kid, terminator (first 2 only), and robocop

@AverageJoe19848

Жыл бұрын

Astronomically based

@kevinonyedikachukwu564

Жыл бұрын

A classic

It feels like creative writing is in its dark age. Not just in films and shows, but in games aswell

@sisigs4820

4 ай бұрын

The entire entertainment industry is suffering from this. It's a mix of what you mentioned and the rise of corporatism and the product no longer being made to please the customer, but to milk the customer of all they got.

@kingwolf396

19 күн бұрын

Videogames still got it but yea, a lot of the triple A and even some double A level games are either stale, uninteresting, or lazy

My personal biggest grievance is the abandonment of good vs. evil. There IS evil that needs to be destroyed. Not every story needs shades of gray, only a compelling villain that needs destruction.

@honkhonk8009

11 ай бұрын

Yeah. They try to humanize evil cus they think it adds depth, but only makes it fucking goofy lol.

@ComfyCherry

9 ай бұрын

so long as they don't feel the need to show the bad guy doing something evil to constantly remind us "hey, this guy, you hate him right?" by doing shit like killing off their own people and abusing people, those kinds of characters are too shallow to care about. Bad guy is bad, is one of the most annoying things a story can do. right behind this racist sexist shit pervasive in modern media.

@tommyhawk2065

9 ай бұрын

Well you can blame shows like Sopranos, GoT, Breaking Bad, The Shield, and pretty much Tarantino as well. One thing personally for me at least that was bad coming out of the 90s and the early 2000s was the obsession with 'understandable bad guy'.

@avrahamzucker2605

9 ай бұрын

Be sure that good and evil get always twisted with Hollywood

@danielbadillo8334

9 ай бұрын

I think it's perfectly fine to have both types of characters. One of the reasons why Avatar the Last Airbender is one of my favorite shows is that it has three types of villains. Zuko is the initial conflicted villain with a redemption arc, Azula is the complex psychopath and Ozai is just a simple evil villain that must be stopped. It's pretty cool that they explored all of those different angles.@@tommyhawk2065

Doesn’t help when the “modern” writers discard the source material & just write about their lives like RoP, She Hulk, Willow, and most fantasy genres today

@Icetea-2000

Жыл бұрын

@hope. Don’t like that comment you absolute tools, it’s a bot as well

@theinnerlight8016

Жыл бұрын

She-hulk is pretty much the worst thing ever trying to get away as a TV show.

@Pointman11111

Жыл бұрын

@@theinnerlight8016 why?

@bearjuncture

Жыл бұрын

And now Velma

@maestrogeicho

Жыл бұрын

She Hulk is literally the most comic accurate MCU entry to date.

I'm shocked to learn that people who went straight from their parents' suburban mansions to Ivy League schools and then into a coveted job writing scripts don't know anything about men, about women, about life. Who could've seen that coming?

@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075

Жыл бұрын

ikr, what a shocker lol

@reapordeath

Жыл бұрын

*stirs coffee with a stirring stick* Ya don' say??? 👁👄👁

@daniels848

Жыл бұрын

capitalism baby

@SUPREMELEGEND

Жыл бұрын

Do you really think that's what's happening here? I think it's far more likely that the powers that be are purposely destroying masculinity in film by making the movies bad on purpose.

@warlock_r

Жыл бұрын

@@SUPREMELEGEND Why? I'm honestly curious to the reason they'd want to make bad movies.

Ironically this all began with a push for more open mental health discussion and the expectations of men seen as weak for sharing any emotion. But they exploited it. And it became something completely fallacious

@Lighthammer18

2 күн бұрын

I think Aragorn is a good example of a male character that isn't stoic to the point of being ice cold and not overly emotional either. He can lop the heads off orcs and then sing poetry after.

The main, massive problem I have with modern Luke Skywalker is with his immediate character. Obi-wan in the original trilogy praised him for his insight, "Your insight serves you well." NO WHERE in the new movies does Luke even have much less use this gift. He shows none of the characteristics from his younger version. One could argue that he had a really tough time and all his padawans were killed ok sure blah blah, but the point of insight is to understand something so clearly that a realization dawns upon you. For example, when he figured out that Leia is his sister or at the VERY END OF THE OT when he looks upon Vader and sees he has cyborg parts. He realizes that what he's about to do will make him the Emperor's apprentice so he STOPS. You expect me to believe that after seeing Ben fall to the dark side he's just gonna say, "oh well, guess the dark side wins. GG". No. Absolutely, no. He would have done literally anything else than sit on the sidelines waiting for death. The writers completely FUCKED his character. #notmyluke

After hearing it so many times, "made for a modern audience" translates in my mind as "the beatings will continue until morale improves."

@taags

Жыл бұрын

Its just code for marxist propaganda.

@LoveratLoves

Жыл бұрын

That was the comment I was originally going to make until I read yours =) It's the absolute truth.

@dairoleon2682

Жыл бұрын

"And then they will continue."

@stevenscott2136

Жыл бұрын

"Made for self-absorbed whiners, weaklings, parasites, and losers".

@samblack5313

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

Can't have a smart male character who doesn't lose to a woman at some point.

@Pointman11111

Жыл бұрын

A few are still there

@southcoastinventors6583

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter any more with the AI coming down the pipeline will be able to make all the mainly movie for cheap, so just enjoy the comedy.

@natebowman7593

Жыл бұрын

Your white armor has arrived, Sir Simpalot.

@jasonrhodes9683

Жыл бұрын

Poor Chris Himsworth, they have been casting him as the buffoon, in most of his movies of the last 6 or so years.

@Skitdora2010

Жыл бұрын

My mom cheats at board games so everybody lost to her each time. You could even play Clue and she would not have shared that she had the wrench in her hand. The you call it and open the envelope and it was the damn rope and she would have a sheepish smile.

What else is lacking from modern media? Sons. Seriously, pay attention to commercials, and see how long it takes you to find two instances of a man and his son having a positive interaction. I haven't paid much attention to movies, but I am going to start paying more attention there.

@honkhonk8009

11 ай бұрын

That is so fucking true bruh. I have literally never seen a son in a modern commercial before. Their all daughters. It feels like some weird 2012 thing seeing an actual son in a commercial.

@XVXC-M8

11 ай бұрын

@@honkhonk8009 wdym 2012 thing?

@darnit1944

10 ай бұрын

Especially for black people. I saw a video of Terry Crews and his son bonding over games and it warms my heart. If black empowerment is so important, why not create movies about an awesome black dad who loves his family more than ever, amirite?

@rosabellavitaalvarez-calde5836

9 ай бұрын

The Mandalorian, even the weakest chapters, are a perfectly wonderful depiction of a father-son relationship.

@user-ey9ww3wb8s

6 ай бұрын

Many fathers go get milk and never return. Now we see the shift in society. It took 30 years.

The concept of a stoic man teaching a toxic boss girl about humblization would be incredibly interesting to watch. I mean think about it, The stoic man executes their actions night perfectly to show how experienced he is at what he does meanwhile the bossgirl keeps ln fumbling on trying to replicate the stoic man slowly realizing she has talents of her own that contributes as well. On topic of the fact that the bossgirl would yell at the stoic man until he simply responds with. "You're not acting like your age y'know." Before the boss girl screams again while the stoic man remains unphased. Would actually watch that.

@loodog555

8 ай бұрын

Kill Bill, Vol. 2.

@einundsiebenziger5488

6 ай бұрын

The stoic man (male, singular) executes his* actions. Looks like you fell for "non-toxic" grammar yourself😉.

@The_Mighty_Fiction

6 ай бұрын

Do you mean 'humility?'

@aikalabe7719

5 ай бұрын

This comment is a mess

When they constantly feel the need to make male characters look bad in order for the female characters to look good, do they not realise that it's really a sign of insecurity & weakness. Genuinely strong women can stand with men & have no desire to be against them like this. It's also a terrible message to send for both men & women.

@chasehedges6775

Жыл бұрын

NAILED IT!

@hungryowl1559

Жыл бұрын

Their idea of a strong woman is weird as well. Theyre not annoying and going out of their way to be little the men around them. My boss is a woman and she has no need to belittle any of the men around her and she is well respected as someone who is calm and collected. Assertive when needed to be. Also lets us do our jobs with out constant check ins or displays of power.

@ruutjormun2262

Жыл бұрын

@@hungryowl1559 check out women in ground construction jobs. Well loved because of their relative femininity but also capability to pull her load in ways alternate to physical strength. starting out however, they're the butt end of 101 sexual jokes, which if they take well, they become part of the camaraderie

@lizardkid666

Жыл бұрын

@@hungryowl1559 than I thank god it’s not Cartimandus a straight up Celtic traitor, to the Romans over her own people

@pauperslament3467

Жыл бұрын

Terrible message is the agenda.

In a modern movie, when everyone starts yelling, you know this's are getting serious... In a classic movie, when everyone goes silent, you know the freaking sky's gonna fall down!

@georgebailey8179

Жыл бұрын

@Jack Smith Why are you spamming that comment in multiple places? And can you please give a single example of something the Drinker hated that was actually worth watching?

@georgebailey8179

Жыл бұрын

@Jack Smith Look up the definition of spamming. And from your inability to name one thing the Drinker hated that was worth watching, I take it that you can't name any. I'm beginning to doubt that you've ever watched a Drinker video, rather than just spamming obvious nonsense in the chat.

@joggerman8455

Жыл бұрын

@@georgebailey8179 Not agreeing with that loser at all but I'm pretty sure drinker didn't like new Tomb Raider movie but I thought it was fun and enjoyable. That's the only instance that I've disagreed with him.

@treysabre2943

Жыл бұрын

@Jack Smith Why are you arguing like a child? The adults are talking.

@JPG.01

Жыл бұрын

@@joggerman8455 Something can be bad, yet enjoyable. You subjective enjoyment has absolutely nothing to do with the objective quality of something. Nobody will agree if I were to boldly proclaim the lie that the Star Wars Prequels are good movies. But I enjoy the hell out of them. I like all of them. I prefer the originals but never disliked the prequels.

Watching old movies from the 40s-80s is very eye opening and entertaining. The strong silent types, carry a big stick, etc. being in control and powerful but not immature about it. respectful, etc.

The writers aren't incapable of depicting strong, smart, and capable men characters. They are told not to. The real reason for this movement is to weaken men psychologically and socially. Because a powerful lion of a man who thinks critically and for himself is the most dangerous thing to the powers that are trying to control this world.

@byhxlau

8 ай бұрын

You mean incapable women?

“You can’t have male mentors teaching women anything of value.” I actually love that you addressed this, growing up as a girl all of my on-screen heroes were men. Not because I disliked the women or that they were underrepresented, but I preferred the stoicism you’re talking about. I also watched chick-flicks with my mum of course and loved the feeling of being accepted simply because of belonging to the ‘girls club’ and female solidarity, but that felt more like learning social responsibility whereas I formed my individual sense of responsibility from what I saw from men on-screen and my dad. Who I am as a person today, and my work ethic and how I interact with others, are influenced by both genders, this modern idea that one side only is valid is equal to cutting off a leg and saying you prefer to be unbalanced instead of whole

@sup9542

Жыл бұрын

You mention you had a good dad, that's why you're not with the movement. My theory is most of the craziness is coming from people who didn't have a dad, who grew up with a single mother who taught them that men are trash, that their dad was a deadbeat and good riddance. Unfortunately we're continuing to trend in that direction where there are more kids growing up without a dad. Marriage rates are going down but women are still going to have babies. Men are increasingly considered unnecessary.

@slevinchannel7589

Жыл бұрын

@@sup9542 This Show, as Upper Echelon points out, is MEANT to be bad, so it generates Hateclicks. They WANT Engagement, so stop engaging.

@lesserspottedmugwump.363

Жыл бұрын

There are some great chick flicks. When Harry met sally, sleepless in Seattle. Ghost, dirty dancing. A good film is a good film. I’m a 40 year old 6’9” hairy dude. I watch Sex in the city once every 2 years. Miranda really resonates with me. A single parent with a high stress job. The person who said men can’t identify with a female character recently, can’t remember who it was, has obviously never asked any men.

@batmospheric

Жыл бұрын

@@sup9542 that’s the scariest thing, not necessarily. I do think that people without a dad or even a good male role model fall victim to these shenanigans, but my (older) siblings have as well. Although I will say that they got snagged up *after* cutting off our dad for how he voted, so that’s an interesting correlation for sure, that I never really thought about before

@batmospheric

Жыл бұрын

@@lesserspottedmugwump.363 oh wow, it’s so cool to hear this! I never really heard much growing up about men relating to women characters, so I didn’t think about it in my original comment, but you’re totally right. That director clearly forgets that men throughout history have praised and acknowledged women many times as inspirational

I think one of my favorite scenes ever came from the first X-Men movies when Wolverine is just talking to Rogue in the car. She asks if it hurts when he pops his claws out, and he doesn’t go any further than saying “every time”. I like the simple and short responses, followed by the brief bits of silence in films. Let’s them linger.

@thiefthearcher9907

Жыл бұрын

@Chad 007 Thanks, bro.

@thiefthearcher9907

Жыл бұрын

@Chad 007 Okay, you got me. XD

@Volkbrecht

Жыл бұрын

This is something I realised when first watching Star Wars 7. I was enraged by how bad and badly copied the movie was from the original, but I was also unsure if I may not have been fooled by my fond memories. So after getting home frome the theatre, I rewatched Part 4, and boy what a contrast. Lucas in his day managed to convey so much more by doing so much less.

@nelisezpasce

Жыл бұрын

I was gonna say "Bryan Singer may be persona non grata..." But maybe that little moment that stuck with you is all thanks to David Hayter X-Men sounds nice (perhaps they won't even call it that anymore as it's "non-inclusive") I really hope they don't hijack that franchise just to keep us even more divided Stay vigilant, treasure your loved ones, be ready to let go and all that...

@wojak-sensei6424

Жыл бұрын

That's not just a male acting thing, that's a movie thing in of itself. A mix of creative visual storytelling and solid acting to immerse yourself in that situation. If Logan just spilled every detail nonchalantly, then the potential for your audience to be intrigued diminishes. Men in general have this natural mastery to physical storytelling, and that they can convey a lot of information just with a few gestures and subtle expressions with little to no words. Just look at Sean Connery's James Bond to study on how a true *actor* portrays a suave, capable, and calculating man just with a few scenes of witty dialogue. Key word: *act.* He acts like a man, talks like a man, and thinks like a man. That's why when I see decent male actors act like immature, insecure dolts in media, I see it as a waste of talent.

This is so true! It's getting to the point that I don't want to watch new shows anymore. I can't stand what filmmakers are doing to male characters and favorite series now.

Movies are made by unhappy, emotionally disturbed people who aren't trying to be normal.

This video summarizes why "Top Gun Maverick" did extremely well at the box office. People were yearning for a strong, male lead with all the traditional throwback hero values, so this movie provided them with those.

@Akashi-js6rx

Жыл бұрын

It also genuinely felt like a story actually waiting to be told, rather than a shoehorned shitty sequel that's really just a retcon of the whole series to bring the spotlight on an unlikable wahman cuz how dare the main lead be a guy. You could logically see the story of TG2 carry over from the original, a major dynamic being letting go of historical baggage respectfully and making amends in the present with his deceased buddy's son.

@jonbaxter2254

Жыл бұрын

Also practical effects looked awesome.

@wordoftheday7650

Жыл бұрын

Top Gun Maverick was successful for the same reason Micheal Bay movies are, it was military propaganda

@honkiavelli8044

Жыл бұрын

@@wordoftheday7650 you must be fun at parties...

@wordoftheday7650

Жыл бұрын

@@honkiavelli8044 I mean this is a video whining about how men aren’t stoic anymore, as if that’s like an attack on men… which is pretty ironic, because that comes off as whining to me

The Drinker’s grave stone is just gunna say “Go away now!”

@chasehedges6775

Жыл бұрын

He’ll go out like a legend! 😎

@alphacat9302

Жыл бұрын

Right after date of death: 'went away then'

@bdb1052

Жыл бұрын

lol nice, either that or "nah it'll be fine"

@Slyarno2795

Жыл бұрын

When he does ill stick around.

@johngavin3180

Жыл бұрын

@@bdb1052 I was thinking that might be an alternative too.

As a woman myself I really hate Hollywood's "WOKE" era !!!

Speaking of stoicism, a Finnish director Aki Kaurismäki uses that trope in his films not just on men but on women too. This is one of those simple yet subtle methods to make strong female characters without losing valuation towards men.

@thelegacyofgaming2928

10 ай бұрын

Stoicism and women don't make sense though. I've never met a woman in real life who is genuinely stoic. It's just not in their biology.

@TobyKarelian-rn3ns

10 ай бұрын

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Go to Finland. People there are quiet, maybe introverted but stoic and determined.

@VarunK-ii8eb

10 ай бұрын

​@@TobyKarelian-rn3nsMen are more stoic.

@TobyKarelian-rn3ns

10 ай бұрын

@@VarunK-ii8eb Of course they are. I'm not a moron. I'm just advertising my home country over here.

@TobyKarelian-rn3ns

10 ай бұрын

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Same to you.

When a character is stoic, it makes their emotional outbursts that much more impactful. If Captain Hero Man is shown to be stoic in almost every situation, but weep at his mother's grave, we know something important about him. If he cries at everything, who cares if he weeps at his mother's grave. He cried because a kitten meowed

@bluecoin3771

Жыл бұрын

It’s the reason why the ending to Schindler’s List was so impactful. He earned that emotional scene after all that had happened. “Why did I keep this car, I could’ve saved ten more lives.”

@3dfreak2000

Жыл бұрын

It reminds me to Brendan Fraser in the Bedazzled remake, where one of his multiple characters was an overly sensitive and emotional man that was crying for everything.😭😭😭

@mb8132

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this point resonates with me a lot. A great example for this is First Blood. Rambo endures everything thrown at him while the movie makes it clear he's having severe PTSD attacks but only at the end he finally breaks down emotionally, which is one of the biggest emotional payoffs in cinema.

@CommanderTato

Жыл бұрын

@@bluecoin3771 he saved 60 millions or it were 6 or 600 million? 🙄

@mr.sinjin-smyth

Жыл бұрын

The game Watch Dogs had a classic stoic male character which critics called as generic, but was more memorable than anything the series has done since. Watch Dogs 2 had a forgettable hipster type.

I'm a single dad and I home school my son and I found a group of mainly women who do the same and we get the kids together about twice a week and do it together. We where just chatting one day and the topic of movies came up and I was genuinely surprised when pretty much all the women in our group made the same complaints about men in movies and how they where just sick and tired of the, in their words " absolute stupidity of the female characters being so over powered and the men having to be so weak to make them look good". I took my son to see Maverick and he loved it, when we did the next group event my son went on and on about it to the other kids, the Mums thought it would be good to take their kids and invited us as well and they all loved it.

@Aurora-313

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you had that positive experience, mate. Hope the mums and kids in your playgroup enjoy it too. :)

@thehydrationman5500

Жыл бұрын

The good ending

@Keirnoth

Жыл бұрын

Maverick is like the last man standing in a sea of sht movies that hate men.

@maximusaralieous1728

Жыл бұрын

Not surprised to see that people who home school their kids would agree on this. Typically people home school because they do not like the school systems or what is being taught in school, so they are already more aware of these problems than most. Glad to see though, more people who notice, the more the push back will begin. I don't know if you are in the US, I suppose the 'mums' part of your comment makes me want to clarify that, but since Trump has been kicked out and everyone isn't hysterically fight each other politically, a lot of the moderates that were so upset with Trump have also begun to see the cultural shifts being pushed by the progressive left. A natural push back is starting to happen, though not as forceful as it needs to be yet.

@mehitablestorm8877

Жыл бұрын

Real women love strong men. It's natural. Men are there to protect women, children, the family and society. And we women know when we're presented with phony female heroes who couldn't really do any of the things they're shown doing. Like "Lady" Thor. Such a load of crap.

The deconstruction of the male, both on screen and off, is no accident. Awesome work! Subed!

Having clint Eastwood in a video...even for a split second is more manly and badadss than anything Hollywood can muster...

I have seldom seen a man look more depressed than Mark Hammill sitting next to Ryan Johnson in that press conference.

@CrazyMazapan

Жыл бұрын

And how obvious it was that Hamill is one of those strong men from the past, sitting next to a woke worm

@dragonforks93

Жыл бұрын

He knew that he was trapped in a faustian bargain with Disney

@ImperativeGames

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonforks93 The story about modern Disney belongs to old Disney movies ^^ With it being the evil corporation, the main antagonist of course.

@veramae4098

Жыл бұрын

President Zelensky slumped in a chair next to President Trump, I think hit "max" on the depression scale. Congress had approved the money but Trump refused to disburse it unless Ukraine helped him frame Hunter Biden. And Zelensky refused.

@silencedmaxim5889

Жыл бұрын

The heavy breathing says it all

Thank god there’s someone with an audience that is calling this out.

@scottbilger9294

Жыл бұрын

Too little, too late.

@stevem2323

Жыл бұрын

@@scottbilger9294 Yep, considering who is pushing this and how.

@self-proclaimedanimator

11 ай бұрын

We need more shows like JoJo's or Games like Tf2 We need more Hot Buff Oily Men Not cringe Woman

@spider-man9118

11 ай бұрын

reject lust, embrace God Also, we have evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested

@ChaNnArD-mD

9 ай бұрын

I heard the next 007 is going to be a drag queen

As with all your videos, this is awesome! It's been 3 months and I'm waiting expectantly for Part 2.

James Bond is dead, Indiana Jones is now a frail weak frightened confused old man who just wants to die, Luke Skywalker became grumpy old drunk who just wanted to die, Is it me or is there a trend forming here ,

Speaking of Emily Blunt, I believe her husband was an excellent male character in the first A Quiet Place movie. He was a capable patriarch. He led his family. A great father. Intelligent. Resourceful. Brave. And he ultimately sacrificed himself to save his family. A sort of throwback male character.

@pawsomelabrastead9244

Жыл бұрын

Unfamiliar with whatever is being referred to about her, hopefully if its bad that Cruise can reel her in for the Edge of Tomorrow sequel they've been working on.

@Kylesb

Жыл бұрын

@@pawsomelabrastead9244 I don’t know if it’s Cruise & Blunt’s interaction or some more recent news regarding Blunt, but on the first point- Blunt noted in some form of an interview that Edge of Tomorrow was physically (and probably mentally) exhausting, and the war suit was heavy. In short, she hit a low point on set, said something a bit negative, and Cruise jumped in and basically told her to man up; it caught her off-guard, but she by no means was offended by his comment.

@durinV

Жыл бұрын

He wasn't, he ignored the little one after he almost got the family killed, both parents allow him to walk at the end when he should have being in the middle of the group, got killed because he didn't have enough tools to distract the monsters

@pawsomelabrastead9244

Жыл бұрын

@@Kylesb Oh yeah, I did read about that. Poor thing making millions to feel equality occasionally.

@tathagatchaturvedi5447

Жыл бұрын

Being a patriarch is not something one should aspire to be

Top Gun: Maverick being the highest gross of 2022 is really quite telling with regards to this. Its one of the few "Decades later remakes" where it feels like the writers actually liked the original movie and character and wanted to explore that more, as opposed to wanting to tear them down and destroy them for the audacity of being more popular than modern crap.

@nataliamundell6266

Жыл бұрын

I'm not really into top gun but I agree with your assessment

@ogredev

Жыл бұрын

I think Tom Cruise only accepts roles where the same plot structure is: 1. Toms character is damn good at whatever he is, maybe the best. 2. But his ego gets him in trouble and he is almost destroyed. 3. A woman talks some sense into him and builds him back up. 4. Tom returns and wins. Sure there are a few exceptions but this really does explain most of his movies.

@mantabond

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps this was helped by the fact that Tom Cruise had quite a lot more control and love for the character. Unlike, I dunno, a certain Daniel Craig.

@gooble69

Жыл бұрын

I never really like Tom Cruise much, but it's clear from the Top Gun remake that he is aware of what is going on and was determined to resist it. And for that I give him a lot of credit. Many many other A-listers weren't so smart.

@magtinfal7908

Жыл бұрын

Avatar 2 surpassed it

Hi Man, I'm glad I found your channel. For years, I know that something is very wrong with cinematography, but it was difficult to name it. After watching your video, all make so much sense. I wish you could be the man that all movie producers need to ask for permission to release anything. Thanks

You always articulate these very nuanced and complicated issues so well.

Hence the reason Top Gun: Maverick had such a massive success. It had an old school written male character.

@brianmurphy250

Жыл бұрын

And the success of Yellowstone on tv.

@spagsunfiltered

Жыл бұрын

@Brian Murphy fuck yes! Rip is one of the only real men on TV. Fantastic character!

@princessmarlena1359

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@shiny_swan

Жыл бұрын

A depiction of man that isn't the ones depicted by college freshman feminist pigs

@ryanchristophergavan80

Жыл бұрын

What was well done in that film was the addition of diversity with subtlety. Female and BAME pilots were in the story but they were just all great aviators. Show, don’t tell.

I've been noticing this for about 10 years now and every time I bring it up to my family they get on my case and call me sexist. It's getting ridiculous.

@ItsOlDino

Жыл бұрын

They are brainwashed

@simpdefendmlady6579

Жыл бұрын

They are misandrists

@gregorgerzson1767

Жыл бұрын

"Sexist" - as an eastern-european, I literally never heard a person with brain using this word. Even if we were mocking females for something they just called us jerk and we all laugh.

@piip4

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like they are projecting. It's no doubt they are the sexists holding such an opinion on men.

@simpdefendmlady6579

Жыл бұрын

@Gregor Gerzson Eastern European here. I've mocked the media and normies used that word to describe them every time they complained about female struggles while completely ignoring or denying male struggles

Meanwhile, over in the romance section of the bookshop/library, you'll find plenty of strong, brave and clever manly heroes, i.e., what female audiences actually want. We also don't mind having the hero coming in to rescue the heroine (as long as she's doing more than stand there like a helpless ninny doing nothing). Filmmakers, take note...

@DarkMiss

11 ай бұрын

i think its bs,tired tropes that need to be put to rest. thank god the "im useless i need saving" bs is dying off! YUCK

@AceDramaBeats

10 ай бұрын

I don't mind her being helpless. Let a man save her every now and then.

@seanhealey5931

8 ай бұрын

The romance section for females is basically porn in written form...cliterature.

@realdragon

8 ай бұрын

I've seen some romances, in a lot of cases man is far stronger than woman in those (I've seen one when they're equally strong) but when men rescue women from physical danger in exchange women emotionally support men. And this is great because it shows they both have flaws in some aspects they struggle, but when they're together they support each other

@zynpkrdg

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! Men in those romances are super rich, powerful, strong, and stoic too most times! They brood all the time.😂 They command authority and fear from others, especially in fantasy romances. They do treat the heroine softly but that's bc the heroine was able to break down his walls and support him emotionally bc he is very traumatized and all that. And they also save the heroines too! One of the favorite things ever for romance fantasy readers is a scene where the heroine is kinda beaten up and the guy goes "who did this to you?" and basically crushes those guilty like lil ants. They also like seeing her handle her own and have agency but that is like, the basics of writing a good character, male or female, at least the character has to grow into having those attributes. Anyway that's clearly what women like since the majority of them seem to fantasize about these characters and i have never seen one woman do the same for a silly guy like the modern hollywood likes to put on screen. Never. As a female, i don't really like romance but i love epic fantasy and almost all of my favorite characters are male. I love the female characters in those too, because they actually are good people who are trying to do good things most times, not self-absorbed men-hating weird stuck up creatures.

I remember pausing at a team meeting at work, for about 2 seconds, letting the silence linger after another team member had spoken, to let myself think befoee responding, and i got called out by a woman for "power playing". I was the only man in my entire department, so perhaps that was the issue.

@davidward2651

11 ай бұрын

Yikes

@djphoenix1366

7 ай бұрын

The crime you commit was taking a moment to think? XD

@Nickpetronio

5 ай бұрын

@@djphoenix1366but I thought us men wouldn’t do stuff like think! (Insert sarcasm)

This is why Top Gun: Maverick was so successful. It was one of very few recent movies that showed a positive, successful man.

@Nimbereth

Жыл бұрын

My favorite movie of the year beside The Northman.

@Stevarooni

Жыл бұрын

Peggy was his muse at one point, pushing him back to help his team, but he was still the hero.

@tmo_117

Жыл бұрын

Agreed it was such a breath of fresh air, men dealing with hard times and hard moments but still pushing through finding the strength to be heroic and love, while also being smart for once and outsmarting the enemy. Compared to well…man he’s dumb and sexist where is his woman or diverse set of characters to correct him

@harshitnarang136

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not. It was more glamorous than stoic. Beach bodies, cool haircuts, cool wardrobe, etc.

@guyderagisch4964

Жыл бұрын

That film got Navy politics to a T.

In the summer of 2022, I had a call with an editor to publish a manuscript I’d written; the meeting went very well and it looked as if I’d be made an offer, then she pulled a fast one, her complaint moving forward were in two parts: one, the manuscript was too masculine. Second, if I wanted to move forward towards an offer, most of those toxic males would need to be adapted so that they represented the LGBTQ. At the time, it was a real low point, but it was also an eye opener. I learned the art truly is in trouble but also who I was in the face of that trouble. I politely declined, the offer never came, I’m still shopping the book around, at the very least I know where I stand. Thank you Mr. Critical Drinker you brilliant beast of intellectually, for reminding me with video essays like this: stay the course.

@mr.overthink2179

Жыл бұрын

unrelated but nice Fate/Zero pfp, extremely underrated anime.

@jmal

Жыл бұрын

Wow, even at the publishing level these people try to inject their woke nonsense. Nothing is sacred to them, it seems.

@Sorain1

Жыл бұрын

It shows the rot, and means any publishing house that starts up and keeps such types out is going to do well long term. (Provided they do at least middling level business work.)

@_Code_3

Жыл бұрын

Based, don’t sell your soul to these degenerates

@RespectTheSourceMaterial

Жыл бұрын

In today's age it's easier than ever to self publish your work through amazon. I'd recommend taking the time to research how to do it in a smart way. Also In the Penguin Random House/S&S antitrust trial it was revealed that out of 58,000 trade titles published per year, half of those titles sell fewer than one dozen books. LESS THAN ONE DOZEN. Stop being depressed about this, half of these publishers will go under in the next 5 years, you don't want to be a part of that sinking ship.

Just came across your channel. Very impressive. Your drunken rants are both somehow strikingly coherent and insightful, despite the relentlessly torrential semantic verbosity with which they're articulated. New sub. I have a lot to catch up on.

This is why the John Wick movies are great. The characters are great and serve their purpose. They are not treated as dumbed-down characters or followers of diversity, they are just characters. Sure some characters may seem to be immortal like John or King, but they don't follow to anyone and instead they help each other in difficult situations to help them overcome adversity.

@AceDramaBeats

10 ай бұрын

The first 2 were amazing! Especially the first one. The second two were okay.. the third was a bit modern. The fourth, could've used more dialogue and the ending could've been better.

@nitroxylictv

10 ай бұрын

Hes a strong man who keeps fighting against evil even after he lost his true love, his pet dog and his favorite car. He puts everything in the past and moves forward, like a man is supposed to.

@davidanderson2357

9 ай бұрын

Well... Wick DOES leave behind a rather diverse assortment of corpses.

@einundsiebenziger5488

6 ай бұрын

... and most of the "characters" just wait in line to be shot by JW or to have their guns taken away by him and then be shot.

The arch of the modern strong female character: Act I: SFC is unique and badass but no one knows it. Act II: SFC demonstrates how unique and badass she is, without any additional training, failure, or guidance. The conflict is people testing or disregarding her unique badassery. Act III: Everyone learns how uniquely badass SFC is!

@adamalchemy2790

Жыл бұрын

😆😂🤣

@Orozco_PNW

Жыл бұрын

‘Reyyyy!’

@Troublechutor

Жыл бұрын

Writers who can't connect with the concept of working hard to become good/skilled/respected because everything was given to them based on their intersectionality scores are naturally going to struggle with women having to learn anything. Unless the women are written to be feminine, then they get to learn about feminism.

@_BirdOfGoodOmen

Жыл бұрын

*Arc

@xarityfan4370

Жыл бұрын

@R. P. it's weird how even feminists think femininity is weakness

I've used the "commercial idiotic male" trope for about well over a decade now as one example of accepted sexism. Usually met with sighs and eye rolls. It was deeply satisfying to hear it pointed out here.

@CyberLance26

11 ай бұрын

From my experience most people dont notice changes in the media and society and how people view and think about things at all and thinks you are just weird and crazy if you mention that kind of stuff to them. Most people also seems to be completely blind to double standards. Most people seriously only seems to be able to notice and see things if the mainstream media talk about it a lot.

@honkhonk8009

11 ай бұрын

Then these same clowns act surprised when male figures like Andrew Tate spring up outta nowhere lmfao.

@nitroxylictv

10 ай бұрын

@@CyberLance26 because most people have an average IQ of 60 to 70, an average grade intelegence of 4th grade, and generally dont think for themselves most of the time

@linsqopiring6816

10 ай бұрын

Accept and be ready for what I call the "poor baby" response. It will always always happen. Don't fear it, embrace it. You see it gives you license to not give an f about women crying about, whatever women cry about. And let them know it with a big smile on your face. Enthusiastically thank them for their "poor baby".

@thatguy22441

10 ай бұрын

I've been noticing that since the 90s. Anyone who said anything but praise for misandrist content was branded a "sexist" and ruined. This was before the internet. Few men noticed it, fewer cared and very few were willing to say anything. It was a lonely time to be a red pill dude. Times are better now, far from perfect, but far better. At least now misandry can be pointed out without nearly as much fear of reprisal.

One of the reasons that I really like Disney’s Andor series is the positive way that it portrays both the male and female characters.

One of the many examples where they demonstrate hatred towards men and masculinity is in the series The Boys, particularly in the third season.

@sankalpsuryavanshi4788

10 ай бұрын

Suddenly all women are good and men are evil

@2012sonora

7 ай бұрын

I do not get the love that The Boys got. It is a breathtakingly hateful show.

@einundsiebenziger5488

6 ай бұрын

@@2012sonora The only thing hateful about the Boys is the ancient cliché that the evil did not start with American corporations, but with WW2 nazis.

@fromthecheapseats7126

5 ай бұрын

I don’t get why Critical Drinker likes “The Boys.”

@GigaChadh976

5 ай бұрын

@@fromthecheapseats7126he appreciated how fresh season 1 felt.

It's funny how we went from not knowing how to write women to not knowing how to write people

@elinfini

Жыл бұрын

And then, the logical conclusion: not knowing how to write, period.

@nutbastard

Жыл бұрын

"How do you write women so well?" "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability."

@murrothbro195

Жыл бұрын

They wrote women pretty well up until pretty recently though...

@Tethloach1

Жыл бұрын

how writing evolved, natural progression Gods Myths Heros Men Women Children? Pets? Plants? Robots?

@andrewnix6480

Жыл бұрын

@@nutbastardWtf is that supposed to mean

It's hard to write in good male characters when modern society considers them "toxic"

@Ghost_Text

Жыл бұрын

We're on the cusp of a civilization where machinery proposes to erase concepts of merit and living on ones own terms for a dependent society. Men (though not exclusively) symbolize independence and earned merit. So to make a population docile, those icons would have to be taken out.

@chasehedges6775

Жыл бұрын

@@Ghost_Text That’s terrifying, tbh. It’s the equivalent of erasing the historical past and rewriting it in order make it better than it actually was.

@markro1049

Жыл бұрын

@@Ghost_Text Yes, this is the objetive of all this circus. Young, strong, stoic and ambitious males present the biggest danger to the ruling class. Making them weak and submissive is a way to keep power.

@pyropulseIXXI

Жыл бұрын

It isn't hard to write them at all. Modern society does not consider them toxic at all. An extremely small subset consider that, and these people are in Hollywood and academia pushing their fringe beliefs as if they were fact.

@pyropulseIXXI

Жыл бұрын

@@chasehedges6775 Dude, the establishment rewrites the historical past to make it seem worse than it really was. You got it totally backwards

13:19 My dad has been watching the old Columbo TV show from the 70s, and I gotta say I love the main character because he's just so... average, but in the best possible way. He's no underwear model. He fumbles with things in his pockets. He speaks courteously, even to the main suspects in murder cases. He doesn't have any kind of savant mental powers like most modern day detectives. But it's just so cathartic watching him slowly pick a case apart and expose the criminal.

Is there the second part available? I love your content critical drinker, please continue the hard work :)

Basically Hollywood has daddy issues, it's mind blowing to see guys like Kevin Feige self-guilting themselves and bending the knee like this.

@ryanrodriguez7664

Жыл бұрын

You're the second guy in this comment section I've seen named Leo.

@Johnzen03

Жыл бұрын

Hollywood had a China issue. This equity and inclusion movement is very obviously being pushed and funded by the CCP. Just look at every university in the western world. The amount of money the CCP dumps into them says it all.

Rocky Balboa in my opinion is one of the best written masculine figure. He can express his fears and insecurities to his wife, he cried when Mick died, and he is capable of being goofy. But when challenges arrives, he never backs down. The Creed Rocky where he didnt want to live anymore is foreshadowed in Rocky V where Mick told him that little by little, an old man's motivation to stay alive disappears. "I never asked you to stop being a woman, so please don't ask me to stop being a man."

@nitroxylictv

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. Hes a real man that asks for support, from his COMPASSIONATE and CARING WIFE. That is a true man. Women are SUPPOSED to be caring, emotionally supportive, compassionate and emotionally reconstructive. Its the Yin and Yang to mens protectively supportive, reassuring, providing and guiding traits.

@thelegacyofgaming2928

10 ай бұрын

Yes! Having a feminine wife to support him is EXACTLY how you write a good woman character. Rocky was awesome

@wasabi5338

10 ай бұрын

@@thelegacyofgaming2928 Adrian is a well written strong female character too. She is able to break free of her insecurities and in turn be the perfect voice of reason when Rocky lost his way. Nowadays, a feminist's idea of a strong woman is someone who can KO men and is masculine, while Adrian is feminine yet very mentally strong.

@TheresaMayPM

9 ай бұрын

@@wasabi5338 Adrian is great. Rocky was willing to give it up for her, which was a massive sacrifice for a man who was on the verge of escaping a life of mediocrity. Adrian knew Rocky risked dying, that she could lose him, but she risked that loss because she knew he would be diminished if he didn't fight. Rocky is a series about two heroes, Rocky and Adrian.

@buukute

9 ай бұрын

Never get tired of "Rocky" series even I have watched them for hundreds times. The story, characters and musica was on point!

Couldn't agree more! Did you ever do part 2 ? I seem unable to locate it!

@thecriticaldrinker still waiting on Pt. 2 mate! I loved this!

Picard was one of the saddest. It felt like an utterly different person. From one of the absolute best and most aspirational characters to a doddering old simp

@xposetruth5681

Жыл бұрын

Same here. It hurts my soul as that is my favorite show of all time. I refuse to watch that dumpster fire called Picard. It’s not canon.

@jigawatt1.215

Жыл бұрын

@@xposetruth5681 If Patrick Stewart was tired and bored of playing Picard, he shouldn't have come back to the character. He butchered it because he wanted to do something different without thinking about his responsibility to the legacy of the character. The character just isn't his, several writers made the character what it was.

@andrewblanchard2398

Жыл бұрын

PATRICK STEWART MADE BAD INVESTMENTS AND LOST A TON OF MONEY HE WAS FACING BANKRUPTCY AT 80 YEARS OLD UNLIKE TRUMP HE COULDN'T GET RUSSIA ISRAEL CHINA NORTH KOREA SAUDI ARABIA DEUTSCHE BANK TO GIVE HIM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

@michaelschmidt1101

Жыл бұрын

Sad but true

@chrisbutlerart

Жыл бұрын

Picard was an absolute betrayal of everything the character ever was, and everything he ever stood for. Trek is stone cold dead.

I remember a James Bond movie where M describes Bond as a dinosaur of a different Era, yet in reality he is exactly what is needed to fix the current crisis. We need that in modern entertainment.

@trackerjacker5467

Жыл бұрын

Of course, his recent change in character IS pretty understandable; I mean, you live a life like his, you see and go through the shit he has, after a while it takes a toll.

@spacemann1425

Жыл бұрын

That scene was in 1995. The point of that scene wasn't to put down James Bond.

@greenarrow219

Жыл бұрын

@@spacemann1425 1995, better times.

@TheMaulam12345

Жыл бұрын

no worry honey. next bond will question about his sexuality and his skill color while fighting climax change

@greenarrow219

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMaulam12345 can't wait😄

Seriously I've noticed for a long time and you are the only one who mentioned it and I'm grateful to you about it, I'm so sick of men bring depicted as clumsy, insecure, talentless and submissive to make the movie funny and yet live in a world watching men sufferings and yet prospering in this new wrong social injustice against them, seriously you guys should be careful watching any movie after 2010 and not get disgusted by these bs, i don't know what Hollywood men think that they accept writing and depicting these big lies and when they want to ride against this shit

As a woman I don’t think a lot of chronically online women are being genuine when they pretend heroic empowered male leads aren’t a thrill to watch Yeah it’s good to get some badass women - every girl I know liked Kim Possible and Tomb Raider and Hermione as a kid but making the men suck doesn’t make me happy at all

There's more manliness in two minutes of any Eastwood film of the 60's/70's than the entirety of anything made in the last ten years

@specialk9424

Жыл бұрын

You could've left off "of the 60's/70's". Cause Clint ain't no bitch. He's 90 years old, and can still kick your ass, my ass, and the asses of our best friends.

@hubertbevillard2576

Жыл бұрын

John Wick disagrees

@falconmclenny7284

Жыл бұрын

"Get three coffins ready"

@mikeseier4449

Жыл бұрын

@@hubertbevillard2576 john wick is a girl with a lot of ammo!..

@beingsshepherd

Жыл бұрын

And racism frankly.

Aragorn is a fairly modern example of a good male character. He's not a toxic, aggressive stereotype, or a dolt. He's a competent warrior who cares about his comrades, and his lady. You can tell he's introspective, and that living up to his legacy carries emotional weight, but he never whines about it. He, like Frodo, bucks up and carries that burden because that's what OG guys do.

@mikoaj1349

Жыл бұрын

Actually even in the LOTR movies there were some small but significant differences from the source material. For example, in the movies Aragorn whines: 'I'm Isildur's heir, the same weak blood runs in me' and then Arwen comforts him: 'You're Aragorn, not Isildur himself'. In the books, on the other hand, it's Boromir who accuses Aragorn of being Isildur's heir and having his weaknesses, while Aragorn defends himself saying that he's his own man.

@NuanceOverDogma

Жыл бұрын

Modern example? That was 20 years ago. He’s talking about the last decade especially last 5 years have been atrocious portrayals of men… and women.

@lastmanstanding5423

Жыл бұрын

@@mikoaj1349 eh? Book Isildur is a hero, who died heroically. It was the movies that made him into: "hearts of men are easily corrupted" Book Aragorn would be proud to be called heir of Isildur.

@Benji-jj2bg

Жыл бұрын

@@mikoaj1349 thats a bit different, that scene was put there to convey that Arwen was his closest confidant and he was able to talk to her, showing how he is when hes around someone he can open up with kinda i guess. It made him feel more human, we all have doubts. But most men dont share those doubts with the whole world and complain,.

@Fred-gu6pk

Жыл бұрын

John McClane although the good Die Hard films are even older. And what about Hans Gruber charming, nicely spoken, cunning, quick witted and ruthless

Perfect analysis !! Congratulations for the good work, continue !!!

Nothing is more sexist than the term 'Mansplaining' - which is used any time a man explains something to a woman - but of course not when he'd talking to another man or when a woman does the exact same.

@esymoo

Жыл бұрын

men whining about "sexism" will never not be funny

@GigaChadh976

5 ай бұрын

@@lithosagymfansaid the man whose never watched a film from the 40’s or 50’s

Hollywood vilifies men and wonders why the lose most of their audience

@markro1049

Жыл бұрын

@@fvefve12 They are losing money, disney is making less revenue than before, at least with MCU products when taking into account marketing expenses and inflation. This isn't even mentioning the CEO situation. There have been rumors about big corporations financing "the message", if you believe them to be true or not is up to each individual.

@markro1049

Жыл бұрын

@@fvefve12 Then we are fucked

@TrashPanda90914

Жыл бұрын

@@fvefve12 we found the shill boys 😂

@unwokeneuropean3590

Жыл бұрын

If you want the money for your movie, think about the main cinema payer in the audience: the white man. They forget it and cry later.

The hyper-emotional, quick to anger male character that never stopped talking used to be used as comic relief. Now it’s just the way they’re written.

@xGhost4000x

Жыл бұрын

Somewhat hilariously "hyper-emotional" and "quick to anger" is how I'd sum up most of the online discourse when it comes to movies in general.

@juniorm641

Жыл бұрын

@@xGhost4000x thank you. These guys want to see real men while acting like real women looking for their perfect man. So ironic.

@ChampagneAndRipple

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that who Critical Drinker is? Anyone who waste this much time on content like this isn't a real man at all. Neck beard rantings of unimportant fictional nerd shit as is that really matters in the real world. Getting all angry over movies, TV shows and videogames is as unmanly as it comes.

Man you nailed it here. Have been seeing this happening for years. Anytime I try to watch a modern movie nowadays I'm left feeling flat and there's always some kind of social agenda they're forcing. Started watching a creature film the other day where a female tracker lead a group of male explorers to a dangerous location. I called it in the first 5 mins. She's going to be the only one to survive - and it was true. So predictable now. 20 years ago, one of these men would have protected her when danger struck - but not today. Can't have a man protecting a woman or that would affect the feminist agenda.

I recently rewatched "No country for old men" Looking back we were spoiled with how good films used to be.

@Mattblaze1477

Жыл бұрын

I recently watched Oliver Stones 'JFK'.........What a banger of a film that is. Joe Pesci as Dave Ferrie was so good its frightening......."A Triangular crossfire, That's the key, That's the key"

@fredmeyer1044

Жыл бұрын

Incredibly depressing to look back at the 2000's (which wasn't too long ago) where constant quality entertainment was just normal and expected, here we are in 2010's/2020's world and you get 2 good things a year and people forget about them in a week

@NineBreakerUIXB

Жыл бұрын

Don't put it in your pocket! It's your lucky quarter

@davidc4996

Жыл бұрын

@@NineBreakerUIXB which it is , just a quarter

@brightmamba889

Жыл бұрын

One of my top 10 personally probably a close favorite. So glad it wasn't poisoned with a netflix spinoff or sequel.

This could also be the reason that John Wick has been successful. Where most men are emotional, John is portrayed as very stoic. He can control a situation with his silence and when he does speak, you usually feel the impact of it. For example, when Vigo has him all tied up in the first movie. When he speaks up, you can hear the raw emotion conveyed in Keanu's voice. John just wanted to be left alone to grieve but it was snatched away from him in the form of Josef killing his dog and stealing his car.

@nathancawley8759

Жыл бұрын

@@whatsappme9933 tfw you steal a film critics profile pic to try to scam ppl. ugh

@davidarriola6412

Жыл бұрын

It was mostly killing his dog. You don't kill dogs unless your ready for war.

@thebad2016

Жыл бұрын

@@nathancawley8759 Yeah, they literally comment on everything I say. Makes me feel like they're targetting me specifically. They've also impersonated other youtubers and commented on my stuff from other videos.

@sup9542

Жыл бұрын

Those movies are getting worse and worse though. Keanu is the type of guy to happily have his character be neutered so women and trans women can take over. He’s very down with that trend.

@stemup

Жыл бұрын

@sup9542 what women are you referring to? Sure there are badass female characters but I'd hardly say they "took over"

This kind of thing makes me want to write a story about characters (one male, one female) with no extreme personality- but are based around a modern person planted in reality, are subjected to past cinema and modern cinema plaguing their every day lives. With our main characters trying to go through a typical day, doing it's best at trying to mock the "slice of life" genre with an actual plot. Absurdities always come their way impacting these "blank slate" main characters into something that they're not- all the while trying to obtain a relationship with one another and put a stop to all of the garbage that they're being subjected to.

We need a part 2

I swear to you, that line from demolition man, were Sylvester Stallone said "put me back in the fridge" is becoming a reality every single day that passes by.

@waycooljr.181

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I forgot about that line, it says everything in a short sentence.

@juniorm641

Жыл бұрын

What's wrong with Creed? Too black?

@thatitalianlameguy2235

Жыл бұрын

@@juniorm641 tbh it's the only one I disagreed with because Rocky dying makes sense, he lost everybody and feels fulfilled so going out like that is fine to him

@twobellz

Жыл бұрын

“Demolition Man”? Another awesome movie that was way ahead of its time.👍

@Derek-qu8qi

Жыл бұрын

I say EVERY day that I wish that damn asteroid would hurry up and get here

Silence in dialogue is powerful because it feels REAL The writers probably never saw a real conversation between people

@mr.wilson9941

Жыл бұрын

Those writers are energy drink spoiled autistic soy boys who believe steven universe is the peak of what entertainment looks like so obviously they never talked to another human being with an once of sanity

@thegoodwolf4255

Жыл бұрын

confrontation is being made more and more not socially acceptable, you're actually probably right

@rro660

Жыл бұрын

​@@thegoodwolf4255 of course you make men less confrontational and less dominant they pose less of a threat to the elite group of men that control the world. 😉

@PeterParker-ff7ub

Жыл бұрын

at the same time a little is enough and no one wants their time wasted on endless quiet.

@Whaddayamean13

Жыл бұрын

We have a hyperactive, can't sit still for five minutes audience of children now addicted to TikTok and mindless dopamine bullshit. Combine that with an industry that has become all about making money and less about storytellers: you have these movies now. They're not only bad on their own, they're tarnishing their original versions-which they shamelessly remake to begin with.

This is absolutely amazing!!! I hope that everyone can hear this message and learn that men are supposed to be men and not women!

I actually wrote an essay in university about how in modern family shows the father is shown as an idiot. I firget the exact argument I was making, but it's certainly noticeable how every father seems to be this bumbling idiot that can't do anything right without their wife.

@QuadriviumNumbers

6 ай бұрын

It's that word that has been noticeable in it's absence...FEMINISM!

@doorman5966

6 ай бұрын

Leave it to Beaver was also stereotypical. Ward was always the smart one while June was always running to him for advice. Totally unrealistic portrayal of real life. But in those days they wanted to present masculinity as a kind of jokey patriarchy--Ward was a pencil pusher, not a working class father. Wokeness didn't start yesterday. It has been in Hollywood since the 1920s, but in different ways because the society was 99% European so they couldn't push diversity or LGBT.

@Nickpetronio

5 ай бұрын

Wow kudos to you. Sounds great. How was that essay received though? Lol

@JeremiahLauzon

5 ай бұрын

@@Nickpetronio Pretty well actually, I don't remember my actual grade but it was decently good I think.

@bobbamford5207

2 ай бұрын

Yes the Wife has the solution to lifes problems.

This is why I loved Reacher SOOO much. The dude was reserved, smart, and just overall a badass. But he still had emotions that were brought out and used for scenes that were all the more powerful because he wasn’t normally teary eyed or angry.

@LoganDX1990

Жыл бұрын

That and Jack Ryan . It's like good writing, especially with make leads. Is becoming rare now

@TheAntsh

Жыл бұрын

Words you'll never hear from real men 'I'm just going to be vulnerable here for a moment'

@saisameer8771

Жыл бұрын

Another example would be Ethan Hunt from the Mission Impossible movies. He generally does not come off as very stoic most of the time. But when things get serious he puts all his vulnerabilities aside and gets the job done. It also helps than Tom Cruise can pull off characters like Ethan Hunt better than any other actor.

@clamum9648

Жыл бұрын

@@LoganDX1990 Yeah I think the Jack Ryan series is decent, better than a lot of crap on nowadays anyway. Reminds me I need to get back to the latest season, forgot I had started it lol.

@OldLizard

Жыл бұрын

To be honest, I found "Reacher" to be too Marty Sue. He is exceptionally strong, exceptionally smart, and exceptionally professional. Basically, he is a superman w/o kryptonite vulnerability. "Terminal list" was much better - there was character development, moral choices, and no "superpowers". Just a man who is doing his job and going to the very end if it is needed.

The most terrifying implication is that a male character can't be just as aspirational for female viewers.

@Michael-tk9ux

Жыл бұрын

Because it's true. Look up female in group bias and 'women are wonderful effect'

@DozenDeuce

Жыл бұрын

They’re NOT aspirational to women, they’re DESIRABLE to them.

@sort6726

Жыл бұрын

Because it's true to an extent, that also applies to both genders in general

@casecoded

Жыл бұрын

honestly? as a woman, i have found no hero, no role model in those “strong female” characters. The men are the only place left to turn- and even the wussy emotional ones as Drinker described are better than the cold, hateful and arrogant females that’re so often portrayed in media these days. So rare to find media that lets people embody their natural talents and energy without challenging others or feeling threatened by their accomplishments and strengths. Wouldn’t it be cool to see? ahhh

@cheesefondont1579

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. It's a ridiculous assumption, as there's been a lot of interesting and aspirational characters in media for decades; male and female. I disagree with some of the comments saying women can't find male characters aspirational, as I have never had that issue; though I am someone who has been a tomboy all my life so in tune somewhat towards some more typically masculine values along with some core feminine ones. I am extremely tired of the 'defeated and downtrodden old man', 'bad father' and 'incompetent leader' tropes as much as the very unrealistic female heroes. I miss seeing characters with realistic and aspiration masculine and feminine strength respectively. Not understanding that men and women have different strengths is as much of a crime as not understanding that there are many people who don't fit the typical stereotype associates to gender.

Great video bro. 10/10. But one thing I might add is that the Zack Snyder Superman wasn't a pussified version of Superman, more of a darker and conflicted version of him. The DC comics do portray him like that sometimes. Not saying your wrong or anything, just an observation. Keep making content like this.

I love you for saying EVERYTHING we’ve all been wanting to say!! You have balls of steel and I am in love with you for it!!!

You keep putting into words the subconscious reasons why I only watch older films these days.

@allseeingotto2912

Жыл бұрын

Or Japanese and Korean films

@geraldheinig1473

Жыл бұрын

Or none at all. For about 10 years now.

@emilnemyl448

Жыл бұрын

Switched to reading, they cannot monopolize that market with crap. These days every hollywood movie is trash by default.

I feel bad for boys and young men who have to grow up with these twisted potrayals of men in media.

@Crobian

Жыл бұрын

The objective if you haven't noticed is to turn men into women and women into men because it is a hugely lucrative industry for $$$. They expect it to make more money than Hollywood (surgeries, hormone replacement therapy, therapy, legal costs, increased consumer spending etc). None of what you see is by accident, it is all for profit at the expense of people's mental health. And the other obvious reason for all this feminization of men is weaker men are easier to control. The less stoic heroes you have, the more you can exploit them.

@jonathancross2790

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. My generation of boys are just brainwashed and dominated into believing women are always superior. Yet the girls brag about not getting enough recognition. Which makes sad and angry most of the time. Especially when I see boys acting feminine, emotional, whiney, irresponsible.

@leroyrodgers6089

Жыл бұрын

As long as those boys have a good father, and grandfather. They will be fine. Jordan Peterson is also a really good man that is in the media as well. Of course they try to twist him, but he's to popular for them to bring down now.

@smorevids

Жыл бұрын

And women too. Initially you might think we're lucky because we aren't demonised but it's not a great look to be portrayed as the annoying, cold mary sue gender. Now people will think that every movie with a female lead will automatically suck when it never had to be this way.

@houseofhas9355

Жыл бұрын

Which is why at 19. I stopped watching any new modern movies that have anything to do with Disney superheros or female leads or female action star. I can't unsee the disrespect of male characters. Tv shows have it way worse than movies It's worse than you Think. I have seen young men say self hate thing like self owning or self downing. A lack of confidence is the agenda's real goal in my opinion.

This is so perfect. Thank you for reminding me what a man is, and what a man is not.

Has part 2 come out yet??? Looking forward to it!!

Say what you want to about Henry's Superman, he is still very masculine. He doesn't whine about his feelings or being annoying. Most of the time he is stoic, quiet and keep things to himself. His struggle makes sense due how destructive his power can be.

@lucanicolasstefan4788

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Superman was fine. The drinker's points still stand thougj

@stevenscott2136

Жыл бұрын

I can let "Man of Steel" slide on the basis that he was just starting out as a superhero, and his dad did a terrible job -- practically called him a freak to his face. Thomas Wayne would have punched John Kent right in the mouth for his terrible parenting.

@territorybeyond

Жыл бұрын

Costner was stoic compared to Cavill, those what his Superman acting amounted to was a block of wood

@christianbjorck816

Жыл бұрын

Man of Steel was just a mopey whiney film though… totally opposite of who Superman is. So yeah, they cucked him pretty hard in that one.

@9theaman

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenscott2136 I've watched Man of Steel many time and I don't remember Pa Kent "practically" calling him freak. Where did you get that?

I’m a girl and the title alone made me say “YES”. These “writers” cannot write men to save their lives. It’s sad to me because men and boys deserve their heroes too. They deserve to be taken seriously and not treated as a joke. 80s and 90s movies were perfect on portraying strong men and women. Writers back then were masters of their craft. Sadly, we have writers who care more about The Message rather than writing an interesting story.

@Rezzatoni

Жыл бұрын

I'm not so sure about this "80's knew strong men" trope; at least not if you take sitcoms into account. In Married ... with children, in ALF and even in The Cosby Show the male protagonists have been kinda jerks, while their wives, even PEggy Bundy, were superior to them and lovingly tolerating their foolishness. Maybe that's where it all started ...

@ThreadBareHope1234

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking about this yesterday. Strong men are hard to find in mainstream movies. A weird thing about nowdays is if I made a joke that "where hav all the good dads gon" bc they'r all jokes, idiots, or submissive, and someone will tell me cool dads are everywhere, using She Hulk as an example...😶 Sorry, how are they not submissive or stupid man? Girls of my gen are doomed.🤦‍♀️ At least video game men can still be cool

@SpruceCampbell

Жыл бұрын

I watch 80s and 90s movies about 50x more than anything from the past decade.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

Жыл бұрын

Heck Kevin Mccallister is a better role model from the 90's and he is only 8 in the first film

@SpruceCampbell

Жыл бұрын

@@Rezzatoni you make a solid point that the 80s family sitcom marks a huge uptick in pathetic make leaders, however 80s movies are without a doubt home to some of the manliest lead characters ever. I mean, basically every actor that had a role in an Expendables movie had their heyday in the 80s.

Han, Luke, and Boba being neutered in absolutely every way, shape and form in their character assassinations will forever break my heart as a Star Wars fan. Same with James Bond and Indi 😔 my favorite heroes and villains reduced to less than nothing

@user-ey9ww3wb8s

6 ай бұрын

The fans ruined those characters the most by not letting those characters go and watch something new. You can't expect old actors to play their younger selves and do action scenes. Like come on now. The fans need to move on to new characters. This is why Star Wars is stuck. I would rather watch Old Republic in the Star Wars universe.

@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw

6 ай бұрын

@@user-ey9ww3wb8s not the fans, the studios keep milking every single character and ip

People need to understand that there is such a thing as healthy yet kickass masculinity and that women have shared that successfully before (Katniss Everdeen for instance) but what everyone forgets is why they all worked: they were first and foremost well written characters. One note stereotypes can be easy fun but NEVER make good compelling characters for people to root for. And good compelling characters don’y even need a convoluted backstory or one that is thrown in your face through exposition. Subtlety and simplicity work. James Bond, a common example on this channel, kicks ass because he is an experienced spy who has been trained extremely well. He doesn’t need superpowers or a tragic backstory for that.

And the tragedy with Luke is that he was an inspiring character both to females and males. He was caring, thoughtful and put others above himself, he protected his "family", was there for his sister and his friends alike. In other words: He wasn't the typical dominant male who tries to control everything and push everyone in his direction. And then they made him a sad, depressed character who throws his lightsaber behind his back. Well, they COULD have made him a superwise Jedi who has risen above all earthly things and even rejecting his own power in order to achieve enlightment, like some spiritual masters of the real world do. That could have been believable but no, lets make him just weak and boring. And Mark Hamill said that in an interview too, that he did not like the way they portraited him in the new movies at all.

@lemonscentedgames3641

Жыл бұрын

Hahah AN interview? Theres probably like a 15-20 min complitation of hamill saying how much he dislikes disney starwars and his constant warnings to audiences to not get overhyped

@selfhelp69

Жыл бұрын

@@lemonscentedgames3641 Makes you wonder why he did them at all.

@jasonchui111

Жыл бұрын

Luke should had been like his master obi or yoda or anything in between, but no....... He became a very very sad old man. How is that possible other than pure man hating.

@killgorian131

Жыл бұрын

Mark said that he had to play the character as NOT Luke Skywalker, because he couldn't reconcile the two characters in any way. What a surprise that the fans couldn't either.

@purefoldnz3070

Жыл бұрын

my favorite part is for someone that wants the jedi to "end" is just randomly hanging out on his island in his jedi master robes. Was he trolling the postman again?

Spot on, except for the Rocky part. I found the end to Rocky's journey uncomfortably real: Wife died of ovarian cancer. Brother in law was an alcoholic that died from drinking. Son was neglected by his famous boxer dad growing up and now they have a strained relationship. Rocky is left with the sum total of his decisions, and while still beloved by the community as a whole, has lost all of the people he truly loved in his life. At that point, I don't think turning down cancer treatment is that far fetched.

@bighands69

Жыл бұрын

That was Rocky 6 that did that. The son was also a cuck that looked like he should have been working in a hair saloons.

@akmonra

Жыл бұрын

It also gives Rocky his own arc in the film, which I respect. The mentor character is normally just placed in stories to help the hero, without any conflicts of his own. I like that Rocky helps Creed fight, and Creed in return helps Rocky fight.

@manuelpatino7863

Жыл бұрын

I had forgotten all that Creed crap. Those films, and Rocky himself, went from trash to mediocre and forgettable so quickly, that it took me a peek to your comment to remind me what had happened in that garbage 🤣🤣🤣

@bjrnjohanhumblen1393

Жыл бұрын

1 theory says if Rocky dealt with his pain properly the cancer will go away. The chemo kills. Healing emotionally cures cancer. The cancer is there to make you understand that or die, is the theory i watched yesterday on bitchute

@akmonra

Жыл бұрын

@@bjrnjohanhumblen1393 the cancer is there because the dna in the cancer cells fail to tell it to stop duplicating. Healing emotionally doesn't get the cancer cells to suddenly change their code. They will still kill you.

Rick Grimes is about as solid a portrayal of an everyman thrust into the tumults of the unthinkable as I've seen in a long time. The TV series did wane a bit, mayhaps, but the character was written and marvelously demonstrated as a respectable, admirable man should be.

Well said and you have a true pulse on the problems with most movies these days

I’m glad I’m not the only one who has noticed the trend TheDrinker has pointed out about the media portraying men as hapless and stupid in practically every commercial

@Pointman11111

Жыл бұрын

Its just a commercial Why are we taking it seriously?

@kofimoseley9296

Жыл бұрын

It started with Homer Simpson.

@section20survivor90

Жыл бұрын

@@kofimoseley9296 Nope. I've been around long enough to remember the first commercial to make a man look like a dope: It was for the new Sears "softer side" ads. The man looks at a sweater and says it's pink and his wife in a disgusted tone says it's salmon. From then on it's started to creep into commercials more and more until it hit tv shows and movies.

@grimnartusk265

Жыл бұрын

@@Pointman11111 why does it being a commercial somehow trivialize it? The commercial probably gets seen more than the films lmao it's still very clearly insinuating that men are basically just horrible or retarded, and it's not in the sense of satire so it's just a bad message overall. if you replace the man with a woman it would never be accepted, on that basis alone it's ridiculous.

@gravelly96

Жыл бұрын

@@Pointman11111 Because they're broadcasted across the country to millions of people? If you see it enough times it will stick with you., commercials have always been about the subconscious.