Hello there! Thank you for your feedback about this video. It seems that we could have done better and we apologize for that! Our goal with this channel is to present knowledge without bias and we appreciate your feedback when you feel that we have missed the mark on that. Sometimes an unintended bias may be implied due to interpretation or the source of our research, but this is something we work to avoid and will do better in the future! To address the other concern some of you had about the use of “the Berlin Wall” as opposed to “the Iron Curtain”, this was a mistake on our part and we apologize! The reference was meant to be used loosely, not so literally as to imply an inaccurate representation, but it was a poorly chosen point of reference and your feedback is understood! Thank you again for your comments and support and we will continue to strive for constant improvement! :)

@aav199

2 жыл бұрын

You are against bias? I do not agree. The video is strongly biased against atheism, as if it is some evil and the religion is somehow better.

@tylerbozinovski427

2 жыл бұрын

@@aav199 There is no bias. Idk how you claim to see any. (Tbh though, who likes communism, right?)

@aav199

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerbozinovski427 I don't like communism, and I trying to be neutral to religion. I suppose the intonation of the speaker in the video made me think that he is biased against atheism

@thursdayhistory7912

2 жыл бұрын

@@aav199 I wrote the script for this and I think the confusion might be related to the angle I took and not so much a bias! I was answering the question of why Eastern Germany ISN'T religious as opposed to if I had been asked why IS Eastern Germany atheist. It may seem like an irrelevant difference but there's a subtle nuance to it as a writer! I basically had to take the angle of explaining why religion was reduced, which may come across as anti-atheism, but the opposite would've happened if i had been trying to take the angle of why atheism was increased. There was no bias intended!(:

@jeanpierreviergever1417

2 жыл бұрын

@@thursdayhistory7912 I can see that. However terms like, ‘godless place’ in combination with a voice that could come from a fifties movie did leave me the impression of a bias. I guess being an atheist myself makes me more sensitive to that. Perhaps it would be good to do a video on growing secularism in Western-Europe.

Could have just said "Communism" and saved us all 10 minutes

@asianlifter

2 жыл бұрын

Godless Communism moment

@jmeesamonte939

2 жыл бұрын

Make sense lol...

@md.abulkalamazad6847

2 жыл бұрын

9:44pm great

@iugk

2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@md.abulkalamazad6847

2 жыл бұрын

9:59pm noo the 60s are here

"On the west side of the Berlin Wall".... That is a misleading and inaccurate statement. The border between east and west Germany is NOT the Berlin Wall. It is just the boarder. The Berlin Wall is the physical wall that surrounded all of west Berlin after 1961. West Berlin (part of the city) was territory of West Germany. When the Allies split Germany into four pieces, they did the same with its Capitol city Berlin. The French, British and American sector of Berlin remained part of West Germany from 1949 all the way to the reunion of Germany on October 3rd 1990, while being completely surrounded by east Germany (GDR). Good video though.

@MotoHikes

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was gonna say, surely he meant the iron curtain?

@montemasterson9588

2 жыл бұрын

That's right. I immediately noticed the same glaring mistake. With over 700k subs you have to do better than that. Otherwise, I think the video is pretty accurate, however, Poland was also under the thumb of the Soviets and they mostly retained their faith, even when subjected to such harsh pressures not to.

@thomaspohl5845

2 жыл бұрын

That mistake was made repeatedly throughout the video.

@manudollfie

2 жыл бұрын

Are you trying to say something insightful? All across the border between the two countries there was a continuous line of walls and fences that was heavily patrolled at the time by armed guards, who would shoot you if you tried to cross it. It worked the same way as the berlin wall.

@GholamFareed

2 жыл бұрын

@@montemasterson9588 yeah cos the Poles were Catholic & not Protestant.

9:58 The red line is where the Iron Curtain "stood", where East Germany's border was. The Berlin wall was only around West-Berlin.

@Oneath

2 жыл бұрын

thats why you shouldn't trust everything what you find in the internet, what a shame NOledgia

@Dmazza99

2 жыл бұрын

@@Oneath everyone makes mistakes

@Oneath

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dmazza99 that kind of mistake leads to false information, some people will call Germany "Berlin" next time they want to say something smart

@Dmazza99

2 жыл бұрын

@@Oneath true that

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

Short answer: Soviet influence

@JM-qb2kd

2 жыл бұрын

.. ie communism

@kyriljordanov2086

2 жыл бұрын

But faith still is strong in Russia and Ukraine.

@stanleyrogouski

2 жыл бұрын

@@JM-qb2kd Same reason you can buy a six pack of beer in Albania, even though it's predominantly Muslim. One of the few Muslim countries that was communist for an extended period of time is almost totally secular. On the other hand, Saudi Arabia was originally a British client state, and is currently an American ally, and a totalitarian religious monarchy.

@windykingdom6153

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyriljordanov2086 I mean when the Soviet Union and East Germany was a thing

@rustee00

2 жыл бұрын

Long answer: this vid

This also happened in Czechia and Estonia - the least religious countries in Europe.

@Potatotenkopf

2 жыл бұрын

Based

@hailgiratinathetruegod7564

2 жыл бұрын

And like east germany, they were also protestant

@kyriljordanov2086

2 жыл бұрын

@@hailgiratinathetruegod7564 Czechs were 90% Catholic prior to WWII.

@JosephBelfort

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyriljordanov2086 thanks to the Austrian Inquisition

@matyasvascak6463

2 жыл бұрын

yeah but people in Czechia were irreligious before with communism they just said it out loud

9:58 ah yes, the Berlin wall nowhere near Berlin

@scintillam_dei

2 жыл бұрын

This channel proves the proverb true: "A jack of all trades is a master of none."

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

Getting the Berlin wall confused with the iron curtain is pretty bizarre for a "knowledge" channel but so is their pronunciation of Catholicism and other words. It's as if it's some AI voice over with an American accent is reading a script.

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

@ellipsis101

2 жыл бұрын

Right the wall was only around West-Berlin

@karlosdeevs

2 жыл бұрын

true, regardless if they were badly informed or didn't give it enough research.. It's almost the exact same superficiality you see by countless other u.s channels on history, akin to base it all down to what is good-what is bad as if were all so simple. To me it's just another disclaimer aimed at sugarcoating a simple 'who was right-who was wrong' to the same clueless american to back his already confirmed opinion.

@ImperialZorn686

2 жыл бұрын

It's an interchangeable term

@tylerbozinovski427

2 жыл бұрын

It's more accurately called the Inner German Border.

As for why Catholicism was better at surviving than Protestantism, I wonder if it has to due more with organization structure than zealousness

@scintillam_dei

2 жыл бұрын

Zealotry is a nicer word.

@michaelpencio9573

2 жыл бұрын

You can't compare a genuine religion like Catholicism or Orthodoxy with one invented religion, by a guy in 16'th century , like Protestantism !! It is normal to disappear with the first wave...

@unspecifiedvirusofunknownr2931

10 ай бұрын

@@scintillam_dei nah it's still different

But Poland is still strong Catholic 🇭🇷✝️✝️✝️🇵🇱

@arolemaprarath3248

2 жыл бұрын

inshallah

@Alireza_Farhoudi

Жыл бұрын

​@arolemaprarath3248 allah doesn't exist and muhammad r*ped aisha.

You keep saying "Berlin Wall" in your script, when you mean "Iron Curtain" between BRD and DDR.

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

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@trueSconox

2 жыл бұрын

in germany, where that wall stood, it was almost never called iron curtain, but almost always Berliner Mauer, which translates to Berlin Wall.

@andrewrobinson2565

2 жыл бұрын

@@trueSconox So what was the "inner-German border" called - eff all to do with the Berlin Wall? The Inner German border (German: Innerdeutsche Grenze pronounced [ˈɪnɐdɔʏtʃə ˈgʁɛntsə] or Deutsch-deutsche Grenze pronounced [ˈdɔʏtʃˌdɔʏtʃə ˈgʁɛntsə]; initially also Zonengrenze pronounced [ˈtsɔnənˌgʁɛntsə]) was the border between the German Democratic Republic (GDR, East Germany) and the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG, West Germany) from 1949 to 1990. Not including the similar and physically separate Berlin Wall, the border was 1,393 kilometres (866 miles) long and ran from the Baltic Sea to Czechoslovakia." Dummkopf?

@trueSconox

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewrobinson2565 deine Ausdrucksweise lässt auf einen besser wessi schließen. Wie ihr die Grenze genannt habt weiß ich nicht, bei uns war es halt die Grenze oder de Mauer. und wer hier der Dummkopf ist steht noch aus.

@andrewrobinson2565

2 жыл бұрын

@@trueSconox Up to you. Ich habe das ganze wörtlich von Wikipedia genommen. Ob BRD (Ossideutch) oder Bundesrepublik (Wessideutsch), gab es eine Grenze (vom Norden bis zum Süden) und eine Mauer (um West-Berlin). Es gab 2 Namen dafür, die nicht ausgetauscht werden dürfen.

9:58 You mean The Iron Curtain.. not The Berlin Wall

@luisfernandosantosn

2 жыл бұрын

This is just one of the many mistakes in this video

@scintillam_dei

2 жыл бұрын

It's not a curtain. It's an imaginary line. Get your facts right. Just kidding. :-)

For the better really. The less religion the better.

@scottishbananaclan

2 жыл бұрын

Says the immoral degenerate

@bfmtrooper5454

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottishbananaclan sure that's how it works. I'm not religious so I'm 1. Immoral, I have no morals apparently just because I don't believe in something in you do. Something which is immoral by modern western standards might i add. And of course 2. I'm a degenerarate, for, I'm inferior for simply not believing what you do.

@SpanishEnthusiastt

2 жыл бұрын

Cringe

Frankly, I find this video dramatic and even misleading. I was born in east Germany, but raised in a unified Germany. I have also no relegious affiliation. There isn't any atheist dogma or community. We were just raised without religion. There isn't praising of atheism. Protestantism in general doesn't attract people anymore in Europe. You can see it in the Netherlands or Scandinavia as well. Churches had it much harder in Eastern Europe, but this was because of the opinion "Religion is opium for the people". In West Germany the church was and still is financially subsidised. Therefore it's importance is crumbling much slower there. In the East we don't oppose religion. I had a flatmate who was becoming a pastor. We got along great.

@franknwogu4911

2 жыл бұрын

Well you can't act like atheism came naturally.

@trueSconox

2 жыл бұрын

just to mention it. sharing a law and a language, doesn't unify anything. there are still way to many gaps between East and west!

@amarsven

2 жыл бұрын

@@franknwogu4911 if you grow up without religion it does. As mentioned in the Netherlands or Scandinavia there isn't anti-religious propaganda and similar results.

@franknwogu4911

2 жыл бұрын

@@amarsven its because religion is seen as "ancient" so it should be left behind

@amarsven

2 жыл бұрын

@@franknwogu4911 maybe in socialism. In modern democracies is no anti-religious policy. We don't actively decide against it. It is more like trying out weed. If I don't know anyone taking it and I don't know how to get it, I won't try it. As long as you don't confront death you never think about religion here.

3:23 west Germany employed alot of ex Nazi's as well.. Politically speaking soviet's and Nazi's were complete opposites and Nazi that were choosing a side probably wouldn't have chose to cooperate with Russia

There are actually 2 regions in former eastern Germany, that are still mainly religious through the 40 years of GDR and up to today. One is the "Erzgebirge" near the Czech border which is mainly protestant and the other is the "Eichsfeld" which is mainly catholic and located directly next to the inner german border.

@scintillam_dei

2 жыл бұрын

Communist rapes create atheist "families."

@outerspace7391

2 жыл бұрын

Also aren't the Sorbs orthodox Christian?

@mraddicted2940

2 жыл бұрын

@@outerspace7391 As far as I know most sorbs are catholic. But I don't really have connections towards their community, so I'm not too sure about that.

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

@brianrivera0

2 жыл бұрын

@@outerspace7391 sorns

Hello from Scandinavia where 70 to 80 percent of us are non-religious 😊

@redhood3748

2 жыл бұрын

Actually not. İts more like Norway have % 18 Denmark %3,4 Sweden %30 Finland %1,7? Sweden has the most unreligous population. But every 3/1 of people living there are marriying with religious way. Anyway.

@DefenderOfChrist_

Жыл бұрын

My country in Scandiania is 75+% Christianity

@jamesmoore1476

Жыл бұрын

No wonder all the happiest countries in the world are up there.

@doncorleone1553

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesmoore1476”Happiest countries” yeah right. Lmao

@realdragao6367

11 ай бұрын

@@doncorleone1553Yes indeed right, laugh all you want, cant deny facts.

Well, for me as a German, I have to say that I disagree with with video to an extend. Yes there is an ongoing decline in church membership throughout the whole country. However, that does not mean that you can present a map and divide Germany between "religious" and "non-religious". Of course the protestant and even katholic church still exist in the former Eastern-German parts of the country, but only about 20% of the population here sees themselves as devout. For me this distinction is too much oversimplyfied because it aims just on the east-west differences and not on the differences in other federal staes, or between town-country population. I would agree to all the factors and the history of religion like you mentioned in the video, but to say that East-Germany is the "non-religious" part of Germany is a bit unprecise because, like you presented, overall devout Christians in Germany are just slightly in the majority, so even Western Germany cannot really be seen as a religious country. For sure there are big differences between all federal states in Germany. For East-Germany there are even two popular examples of protestant politicians, like Angela Merkel, our chancellor, daughter of a pastor and our former president Joachim Gauck, former pastor in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania.

@andre_cinelli

Жыл бұрын

Well, I think the main point of the video is: "even if all of Germany is less religious, the western part is still much more religious than the eastern part", this is proven by % and total numbers.

@uganda_mn397

5 ай бұрын

But overall, east is more secular due to the push

So weird to hear it called a state sponsored belief system. Its atheism, the point is not to believe.

@kinggundragon3728

2 жыл бұрын

It turns in to worship of the state. Man has to worship some thing its just the nature of our race. I see people who get fanatical over fandoms now days.

@elseggs6504

2 жыл бұрын

@@kinggundragon3728 Newsflash: Most Atheists couldnt give a rats ass about the state. Good fucking luck seperating faith and nationalism though.

@kinggundragon3728

2 жыл бұрын

@@elseggs6504 ​No the modern day Atheists mostly worship some random pop culture crap as I sated at the end.

@elseggs6504

2 жыл бұрын

@@kinggundragon3728 "it turns into worship of the state" And I have yet to see *anyone* pray to a poster of John Rambo every Sunday.

@kinggundragon3728

2 жыл бұрын

@@elseggs6504 Not my fault you didnt read the last part. " I see people who get fanatical over fandoms now days." As for the state worship you must have never talked with a communist or a socialist of any form. Or a libertarian that swears by the constitution. Hell I wish they worshiped John Rambo.

9:55 Damn i didn't know Berlin was that far west and so long, no wonder no one crossed the Berlin wall if it ran along the entire East German border. Bet that took a lot of guys to man as heavily as it was manned. I always thought the Berlin wall was in Berlin, not on the east-west border ;)

@redapol5678

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, sarcasm! I get it 😆

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

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'Followed a dark path', 'employed nazis' . Kind of heavy handed narrative, huh

@Gordy3000

2 жыл бұрын

Especially considering all the nazis the west employed

The video is so reductionist in it's takes on the East Regime political sphere. "The East Germans did not need the cross on the wall, because they already had an icon to face" what is this supposed to mean? All eastern bloc countries faced a wave of anti-stalinism post Stalin's death, by no means was Atheism a replacement to Religion, and Germans were not subjugated to State Atheism, only in the political sphere or in the stasi were you barred from practicing, with a combination of secularist policy, and churches suffering a decline, not because of persecution, merely the result of a worker's society that upholds logical reasoning over faith, it was bound to result in a massive decrease in religious affiliation. Please point to actual policies and the history of the chancellorship, rather than just simply making anti-socialist rhetoric for a video that's only job is to answer the question in the title card.

@lazarous2772

2 жыл бұрын

So u like socialism?

@ivanveljacic8307

2 жыл бұрын

So you are commie

@analizbar

2 жыл бұрын

​@@lazarous2772 what wrong with socialism? it's about democracy in the workplace

@MRYIMEN

2 жыл бұрын

😢😭the guy who made the video doesn’t agree with me politically😣

It’s weird how you frame this situation. Former nazis were much less influential in the East than in the West because of the purges. This wasn’t unique to the Stasi at all and really shows bias. But of course anyone who points that out is going to be labeled a sympathizer. Also the Berlin Wall wasn’t built across the big border between West and East Germany, it was built around West Berlin.

@Segalmed

2 жыл бұрын

In the East the low-ranking nazis were used as an expendable resource to fill many low to middle positions in the new system because they could be 'trusted' (unlike true communist believers), i.e. they (the nazi grunts) knew that the state knew what they had been and done, so they were overeager to do do everything demanded of them without questions because otherwise... (i.e. they were easy to blackmail). True believers in communism were far more likely to protest against the obvious huge differences between the real dictatorship and its merely proclaimed ideals).

@ryankahler2034

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, pretty biased overall, “east Germany is a godless place”, well, I live in Brazil, +90% of the population is religious, an I can tell you, would happily choose to live in a “””godless””” place like east Germany or Czechia!

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

@MRYIMEN

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryankahler2034 Não existe manifestação/expressão humana “isenta” lol, óbvio que o vídeo vai ser tendencioso pro lado do autor

@ryankahler2034

2 жыл бұрын

@@MRYIMEN sem dúvida alguma, mas um canal que tenta propagar informação deve buscar seguir um rumo o mais objetivo possível. Além disso, se é um tema polêmico e o autor vai dar sua opinião, cabe a ele deixar isso claro em vez de agir como se tal opinião fosse fato…

Interesting video. Nice job.

It's a very inconclusive case when looking at Europe as a whole. You can't really find much of a pattern with the way religion has swayed these past 100 years. The Nordic Countries had relatively little attack on their religion, nor was their religion attacking them. Yet today, *belief* is out the window, however many cultural church traditions remain. The Czechs were forced by the Austrians to be Catholic and forced by the Russians to be atheist. In the end, atheism largely won. Yet still, Catholicism in Poland really turned into a symbol of Polish sovereignty and unity against the Nazis and Commies, leading to Poland's modern-day high Catholic engagement. Quite similar to Poland, the Catholic Church had become a rallying point for the Irish during their many centuries under British occupation. Yet unlike the Poles, today Ireland has become quite secular. While at first glance one might get the impression that Catholicism tends to remain while Protestantism tends to lead to atheism, we can look to France as a Catholic counter-example and Latvia + West Germany as counter-examples for the Protestant side. Let's not forget Angela Merkel's party explicitly represents Christian values. In the end, we can point to why a certain country turned out the way it did, but it is a whole different challenge to point to another nation and predict the same thing would happen to them. (just to add another layer of complication- I didn't even touch the confusing church attendance trends)

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

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@SpazzyMcGee1337

2 жыл бұрын

Everything you just said should have been included in the video.

@arthas640

2 жыл бұрын

Many preachers and priests will all tell you the same thing too: adversity pushes people into the pews while wealth and ease pushes them back out. I work with a company that does cheap or free construction work for some local churches of a few different variety as charity (Buddhist temple, protestant church, a protestant homeless shelter, and a bit for a catholic mission) and they all told me that it was standing room only for months after 9/11, during the first year or so of the war on terror, and during the first year or so into the recession. Once the economy picked up church attendance dropped, then during the early rounds of COVID church attendance skyrocketed again. Many of these European countries (not all) have 1 of 2 things in common: either they had a rise in atheism because they're extremely wealthy countries that are easy to live in (Nordic countries with the worlds best welfare system and high wages or France with their 35 hour work weeks) or religion was virtually extinguished by militant atheism. Outside of the former USSR most of the more atheist countries have had stable lives, little violence, high pay, great welfare, and low crime rates compared to the rest of the world at the time. Look at France who've enjoyed high wages, fewer work hours, and a liberal democracy since WW2 compared to their fellow Catholics in Spain who suffered roughly 35 years under the dictator Franco, lower pay, and constant political persecution and repression. Once the repression ended secularization and atheism grew and within a generation the country was markedly less religious, with religiousness dropping as the economy flourished following joining the EU and roughly 30 years of economic growth. The USSR was actually pretty gentle compared to their allies to the east: North Korean, especially Pyongyang used to be the capital of east asian Christianity and North Korea used to be second biggest christian Asian country behind the Philippines until they were almost all exterminated, and a similar thing happened and continues to happen in China and Vietnam (I've heard at their peak around 10% or more of Vietnam and China were Christian).

@jjgf8412

2 жыл бұрын

You could also include the south of Europe in your analisis, by far the most connected with catholicism, Spain went from being one of the most catholic countries in europe to have the biggest drop of all, probably bc the strong bond between Franco's dictatorship and the catholic church.

@Miquelalalaa

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say the CDU “explicitly” represents Christian values anymore. It’s just a nominal title.

The question is why east part of Germany, which was under communist rule, still remain atheist although other east European countries that were under communism returned to religion. In all east European countries which were under communist rule, religion has returned to a great extent, like Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Ukraine, even Russia, but in east Germany not.

@dakota6050

2 жыл бұрын

Worse resistance and hatred for the ussr than in east germany

@redapol5678

2 жыл бұрын

He literally answered why that was (or at least his opinion of why that was) - East Germany was traditionally more Protestant whereas the other countries that had been under communist rule were mostly Catholic or Orthodox, and he said the Protestants were not as zealous in their faith as the Catholics or Orthodox were (his opinion, not mine). Watch from 9:02 I’m not sure I agree with his opinion on how zealous each religion is to their faith but the difference in the religious landscape of the countries is something that could have influenced the outcome in some way and created the difference seen today

@stevenbodo965

2 жыл бұрын

Those countries are poorer.

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

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@arthas640

2 жыл бұрын

I think its due to more separation of church and state in Germany whereas other countries like Poland had state churches, Germany was more religiously pluralistic (having a few different protestant churches as well as the catholic church) whereas countries like Poland were mainly just catholic, and there were closer ties to religion as a cultural identity in other countries who used the church as a rallying point for both resistance and as a sense of identity. Not to mention the fact that Germany had just suffered decades of militant atheism under the Nazis prior to the Soviet take over so they were already having declining religion but West Germany reestablished churches so their faiths rebounded while east Germany had decades more of persecution. Plus East Germany arguably had some of the worst repression of all the Soviet states due to the risks of western intrusion with the Stasi exceeding the KGB in terms of control over the populace as well as raw numbers (I've heard the Stasi:civilian rate was more then 10 times that of the KGB:civilian rate) so that meant state atheism was much easier to enforce.

I love your animations

Sorry, but the West Germany's dedication to denazification only lasted as long as there was no competition from East Germany. When push came to shove, former nazis and Wehrmacht oficers were allowed into the new structures to lend their expertise. East Germany did do the same, but started of by using the oficers of the WEhrmacht they took prisoner earlier in the war, most notably Field Marshal von Paulus. But within several years, once the East German Army and Police were established, they started to get rid of them.

@MarkAnderson-ng8vc

Жыл бұрын

Former officials still had to go through 'denazification' process (usually including being forbidden from holding office for a specified amount of time). Those that were unconverted like Carl Schmitt were permanently forbidden from holding any sort of government or academic position.

Felt like the video simplified a lot. West germany is not religious either. Most of germany is heavily secularized.

@zyanego3170

2 жыл бұрын

@Nocoinersbtfo oof

@verySharkey

2 жыл бұрын

True tbh

@evanssamuelbiju4315

2 жыл бұрын

@Nocoinersbtfo Yeah I hope Europe returns to Christ..Prayers from India

@ArtaghVril

2 жыл бұрын

@@evanssamuelbiju4315 Thanks a lot and yes, I agree but actually it's the big choice between pest and cholera ^^ Luckily many germans if not even the most nowadays don't care a lot about any kind of religion 😅 We know it's there, we accept anyone who needs to believe in something even it's the flying spaghettimonster and everything's fine 😅

@dansattah

Жыл бұрын

@@evanssamuelbiju4315 Unlikely. 2022 marks the year when Christians have become a minority in Germany for the first time since its Christanization.

You guys know that It was the West that used way more high profile nazis in positions of power right? The East usually used nazis on low and some middle positions until a new indocrinated generation could substitute them. And the reason is the fact that the East had a Soviet style regime. There was no reason to spent so much time talking about nazis. This was bad and very misleading video that lingers too much on propaganda.

Thank you for sharing.

Why isn’t East Germany religious? Me: COMMUNISM

Id argue its not a east Germany thing, church membership is declining everywhere and most "Christians" are only in name, it just so happens that it happened in the more progressive country

@bonno55

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's a combination of both factors

@wtripley

2 жыл бұрын

Good for them, as a gay Tennessean I welcome the decline of religion

@user-qr2yr4ni4x

2 жыл бұрын

@@wtripley On top of being an f-word I would like to inform you that after communism collapsed in Eastern Europe religion saw a huge rebound in most ex-c*mmunist countries just to make your day suck even more :) , enjoy failing in the game of natural selection.

@Gordy3000

2 жыл бұрын

@Joseph Walsh lol! Morals existed long before God was created :)

@bluecrusader9136

8 ай бұрын

@@wtripley I welcome the decline of liberalism and christianophobes like you!

What, the west prosecuted the Nazis and the Soviet not? What are you talking about? This is literally the opposite. The west Germans aquited and rushed up to 80% of the trials against the Nazis. The soviets had less Nazis to deal with from the beginning because they all fled to the West in fear during the last days of the war. The Soviets kept people locked till their deaths. Where did you get this idea out off?

@CobbleChups

2 жыл бұрын

This guy hinted that the Berlin Wall was all the way along the BRD-DDR (which obviously was not the case) not once, but TWICE in this video. Don't expect historical accuracy from him lmao

@Meetmountain

2 жыл бұрын

The GDR empoyed a lot of old Nationalsocialists. They were Socialists after all, they just had to swear new allegiance. And dont forget, most Nazis were experienced in statecraft and other vital organisational skills to run a country and economy. They just were opportunistic like the west.

@pedrohenryque1361

2 жыл бұрын

@@Meetmountain mate you said that nationalsocialim is a socialist ideology after that anyone can just rest it's case cause nothing afterwards will be considered.

@Meetmountain

2 жыл бұрын

@@pedrohenryque1361 That was the excuse the SED used to persuade and hire members of the Naziregime. The aim was to brainwash them into the new ideology and to do that you need a hook, that is familiar to those you want to change. Do your research.

@pedrohenryque1361

2 жыл бұрын

@@Meetmountain brainwash, why? Tens of millions just died because of the actions of the fascists. They just won the war and we're the most powerful country in the world, why would they need to "brainwash" there enemies that cause their suffering and death? The soviets had all the reasons to persecute then and none of the necessities to do otherwise, like the west did. Even Germans themselves that were exiled of persecuted for their ideology had no reason to let them go free. Unlike the west where most of the sympathizers fled to.

Estonia went from 80% lutherian to 12% now since ww2. Same reasons.

2:03 I heard some melodies on the background, it seems to be similar to the melodies that Jonna Jinton ( a Swedish vloger )uses and it's amazing, it fit absolutely with content

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

quite a misinformative and poorly framed short-documentary. The use of the nazbol flag to represent the Soviets especially stood out to me. (along with bad fact checking in general.) I'll be unsubscribing as I don't want to risk being misinformed in the future.

Not wanting to say you are comoletely demonizing the East while simultaniously praising West Germany but you kind of are in this video. Yes, the East did use ex-Nazi officials to build up its intelligence services and Army but the West Germany Army was also built up by Hitler’s Generals, some of which were Nazi’s and also had former Nazi’s in parliament.

@ynk1611

2 жыл бұрын

Not just that, they ran the government for years before finally being ousted by the public

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

@jhthebrickman2876

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@terrorgaming459

2 жыл бұрын

Also the weat was an American puppet state

it's awesome that they're atheist, I'm also atheist from post Soviet Republic

@BajanEnglishman51

2 жыл бұрын

Not really

@matzeknodel11

2 жыл бұрын

Unbased.

@skeptical5727

2 жыл бұрын

Uncool tbh

@SRBOMBONICA86

2 жыл бұрын

Nah,atheism is boring

@Gordy3000

2 жыл бұрын

Lol did a Sunday school brigade these comments or something?

The Berlin Wall was only in Berlin, it wasn’t the entire east/west border.

What is your favorite city in East Germany? I visited Germany on a study abroad trip in 2002, including to places like Dresden. Also, do you have any German ancestry? Thanks!

@cbroz7492

2 жыл бұрын

My late brother, Tim, lived in Berlin after he separated from.the Army in 1987...he stayed there until 1995 when the Allied powers pulled up stakes...he was present when the Wall fell on the night of my 40th birthday 9 Nov 89...the Protestant Reformation began in what we (at least I) remember as East Germany...I was lucky to visit not only Berlin but also Leipzig....home of J S Bach who spent the last years ifbhis life as the Kappelmeister of the Thomaskirche...

@HistoryandHeadlines

2 жыл бұрын

@@cbroz7492 I hope that you had a happy birthday!

@helbrassen4576

2 жыл бұрын

Germany sucks through and through, I went there for a week traveing access the country and didn't meet one nice person, everyone was seemingly annoyed that in was talking to them. even when I made big efforts to come across as good as possible they still visually and verbaly detested that I was even there. They're an angry permenantly sour people and I'm never going back. I know there are a lot of nice people I Germany for sure but I didn't meet any, so my opinion of Germany is pretty much as low as can be.

@Raubabbau

2 жыл бұрын

The smaller ones like Quedlinburg or Werningerode.

@Raubabbau

2 жыл бұрын

@@helbrassen4576 If you've only visited cities like Cologne, Berlin or the Ruhr area, this will most likely have been the case. In these three cities, people like to say that they are always friendly, helpful and hospitable. But if the opposite is true. Visit rural regions like the Rhineland, the Eifel or the Harz Mountains.

Doing a video on a divide between populations of former states of West and East Germany and confusing Berlin Wall with the Iron Curtain. Twice. Dude.

9:06 have you ever heard about a country called Czech Republic? It was 90.5% Catholic according to the 1930 census. Down to ~40% in 1991, currently at about 12%. You didn't even do your research.

@MrTournemire

2 жыл бұрын

that's what I call a decline :-)

@tancreddehauteville764

2 жыл бұрын

Czechs are weirdos.

@gisha6791

2 жыл бұрын

@@tancreddehauteville764 only 12% are weirdos

@tancreddehauteville764

2 жыл бұрын

@@gisha6791 Why are you so proud of being atheist? I find atheism a form of nihilism, someone who believes in nothing has no purpose to live.

@gisha6791

2 жыл бұрын

@@tancreddehauteville764 Believing that God sacrificed himself to himself for some reason he invented himself is so stupid that I actually get a brain ache

Czechia: Hey i've seen this one!

Also, many Christians simply fled west of the inner German border, making those who weren't religious the only ones left. And of course the forced removals of Germans from the ex-eastern lands (i.e. east of the Oder-Neisse Line) also played a role.

U think West Germany also Religious like you think they're? 😂

I like that you with your mediocre research only like positive comments and don't try to look at the mistakes you made

At 10:00, “draw a line where the Berlin Wall once stood”? This is laughable, what are you talking about?!!

Down voted for biased and superficial presentation, that also confuse key elements such as the difference between the Berlin Wall and the "Iron Curtain". You are usually better than this.

Also, the scientific progress during the 20th century helped more people to be non-religious (atheists). Secularism is growing for many years. For example, in the Netherlands more than the half of the population are not religious at all. In Russia so many people are in words part of the Orthodox Church and Islam, but actually the most of the population are atheists too. So, Russian and Dutch people are both not very religious. Believe me. I'm a Russian citizen living in the Netherlands. I'm an atheist too.

@camilla_k97

2 жыл бұрын

@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 They say so in polls to express their national "identity", especially, pro-Putin people, who want to be very different from the Western world. It becomes clearer during big conflicts between Russia and the whole world. Despite their answers in polls, most of those "Orthodox Christians" don't visit churches at all and never read the Russian version of the Bible (or other versions of it). I was born in Russia and used to live there as a child in the end of 1990s and in 2000s.

@o.07

Жыл бұрын

CHRISTIAN CONTRIBUTION TO SCIENCE ✝️🕊 St Columbus - navigator and explorer St Albertus Magnus - discovered arsenic St Hubert - mathematicians, opticians St Albert the Great - philosophy, theology, botany, geography, astronomy, zoology, music, and physiology St Hildegard of Bingen - poet, composer, artist, pharmacist, and theologian St Johannes Kepler - mathematician and astronomer. (Born before Newton) St Blaise Pascal - mathematician, physicist, inventor St Anatolius of Laodicea - mathematician, liturgist, historian St Herman of Reichenau - geometry, arithmetic, history, astronomy, theology, and music theory St Nicolas Steno - father of paleontology St Joseph Canh - Vietnamese doctor FAMOUS SCIENTISTS QUOTES ON JESUS ✝️🕊️ "I am a believer in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity" (Joseph Lister 1827-1912 British surgeon and medical scientist) I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by men who were inspired. I study the Bible daily. (Sir Isaac Newton 1642-1727, pioneer of modern physics) "The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the work of the Creator" (Louis Pasteur 1822-1895, pioneer of bacteriology) "The laws of nature are written by the hand of God in the language of mathematics"(Galileo Galilei 1564-1642, astronomy) "But again I looked and saw Jesus, my substitute, scourged in my stead and dying on the cross for me. I looked and cried and was forgiven. And it seems to be my duty to tell you of that Saviour, to see if you will not also look and live: How simple it all becomes when the Holy Spirit opens the eyes " (James Young Simpson 1811-1907 pioneer of anaesthetics and physician) "I shall see Jesus, and that will be grand. I shall see Him who made the worlds" (Sir David Brewster 1781-1868, physics)

@doncorleone1553

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you are a traitor to Russia and making fun of Orthodox religion and siding with decadent Dutch

@realdragao6367

11 ай бұрын

@@o.07mf shut up, if it wasnt for the LGBTQ whom your cult persecuted you wouldnt be using a phone rn.

At the 2:28 mark, what is that flag between the two French Tricolours?

@BeorEviols

2 жыл бұрын

Saar Protectorate

I think it would be better if you added subtitles in all your videos.

10:40 You're saying the young people in East Germany have remained loyal to the "once state sponsored belief system" Are you talking about atheism ? Atheism is not a religious belief system, it is the lack of one. Or maybe you're talking about communism but that doesn't make sense either.

@bravexxrecon9872

2 жыл бұрын

Na, you just believe theres no god. It is still a beliefsystem.

@scintillam_dei

2 жыл бұрын

Atheism has many implications (beliefs you have to have to be consistent with atheism) such as: 1. that you can get away with murder, rape etcetera if no one catches you, 'ause you opine there is no hell to pay. 2. more. Atheist preachers always deny implications 'cause they're indefensible, and they like to pretend to be invulnerable to attack. They're always big on attacking and miserable at defending. Well, at both, really. Watch. Atheist fanatics....: would it be rational to believe that a cat walked on a keyboard to type your message?

@NeverEverClever

2 жыл бұрын

@@scintillam_dei lol, have you guys solved the theodizee yet? If you're only behaving because you fear some kind of hell, you're not a moral person. You're just a wimp, afraid of the tooth fairy.

@L0rd0fLight1

2 жыл бұрын

@@bravexxrecon9872 lack of belief is not a belief in of itself

@L0rd0fLight1

2 жыл бұрын

@@scintillam_dei " that you can get away with murder, rape etcetera if no one catches you, 'ause you opine there is no hell to pay.", if what's keeping you from doing horrible acts is a fear of god and not your own morale compass then maybe you should do some self reflection, god would not accept you or that.

Why isn’t east Germany religious ? Soviet Union : breathing heavily

Gee, I wonder what the answer could be given that the line almost perfectly follows the former border lol.

9:45 that's the Iron Curtain not the Berlin Wall XD

I think we all know the answer to this without watching this lmao

Minor correction: The Berlin Wall did not encompass the entire border of East Germany, just around the enclave of West Berlin. The rest of the East/West German border along with all the countries under USSR influence was open referred to as the "Iron Curtain" since the Soviets heavily restricted movement between eastern and western Europe. My grandfather grew up in East Germany, left after WWII but managed to visit several times. He always said that the Soviets just replaced one authoritarian regime (the Nazis) with another (Communism). In either case, there wasn't enough room for both a cult of religion and a cult of personality/ideology to exist at the same time.

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

It seems that not only is some of the information incorrect for example the border between East and West Germany was not where the Berlin Wall existed, but the tone that seems biased and not totally objective.

GDR side of berlin wall... Hope you ment iron curtain not berlin wall since the wall wasnt on gdr border...

Couldn’t get through the propaganda

The west employed just as many former national socialists as the east of the country did. Be it in the military or the civilian administration. Several people who served as Representatives in the Bundestag also were former members of the SA and SS. But since this is not the subject of this video, let´s leave it at that.

@elseggs6504

2 жыл бұрын

Your Southern Neighbour's FPÖ also has some brown history and did end up being one of the two ruling parties. Until their leader was caught snorting coke and try to sell his own country out.

9:58 The red line is not the Berlin Wall

Will you do a map video on pagan to modern religion migrations.

A detect a small hint of bias against socialism

@stantorren4400

2 жыл бұрын

I’d say more anti-totalitarianism than anti-socialism

@gonzalodiaz9326

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine not being against socialism.

@midosaid6751

2 жыл бұрын

against totalitarianism you mean

@BeorEviols

2 жыл бұрын

@@gonzalodiaz9326 it's not about socialism being good or bad, it's about this video being biased when history should be viewed objectively

@suserman7775

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeorEviols being objective means being honest and straightforward. Socialism is objectively bad. Saying it's an opinion is like me saying it's okay to steal my neighbor's bicycle and punching him in the mouth when he complains about it because that's my subjective opinion.

this voice is on of my favorite of all the people

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

Thanks for this video it comes at a good time to give us perspective and more information on crucial history that will repeat itself many times in the world history

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

In West Germany after 1945 people found in Christianity a new way and help from the bad situation being hated as war criminals by other nations. The Christian Democratic Union (CDU) was founded drawing a new roadmap into the future.

This video: 11 minutes long Content: "Stalin says hello!"

the world needs more east germany religion policy

As a german (witnessing the times of east and west) I can assure you it's not 100% right. Meanwhile only the southern part of Germany, especially Bavaria, could really be seen as religious. The other three are just "normal": you can find religious people there as well as non-religious even in the eastern part 😉 (Yes, there are a little less religious people in the eastern part, for the reasons you mentioned) It's probably mainly a development of the people because the strict separation between state and church over the decades since WW2 (also in the west😉). Or in a nutshell: At least since the end of the war the church doesn't have any might or political power in Germany whether in the west or in the east 😉

My grandpa came from Mexico his ancestors in my last name is Aleman. So that means German and Spanish so when Mexico was getting its independence from Germany they hired a bunch of European merchandise like Russian and German soldiers cuz Mexicans were short Farmers for the most part and some of the soldiers didn't want to spend all their money going back home and so when the Mexican became a country they just married local beautiful women and opened up machine shop so when you needed your farm equipment fixed or your bike fixed or whatever your car you would say hey take it to the Germans on the corner take it to aliens and so that's how my last name came to be and it's a very popular last name in Mexico can you make a video about that please or something like that.

@lajoyalobos2009

2 жыл бұрын

German immigration to Mexico is a very interesting topic that gets little discussion. There are some places in Mexico that have high populations of Germans or people of German ancestry. Also, there are several Mexican beers that are heavily inspired by German brewing practices.

@rodrigoe.gordillo2617

2 жыл бұрын

@Nocoinersbtfo oh just ignore them 2e are not germanic obviously and thankfully

Idk in what universe you are living but in this one Europe is by far the most secular continent on earth. State sanctioned religion is just a bad idea and leads to widespread resentment for religious institutions.

@juniorcrusher2245

2 жыл бұрын

State sanctioned religion is how 90% of European countries religion works. Christianity is literally sanctioned by the state in tax write offs or budget for cathedral repairs or for wages. Not sure what world you live in but religion is very much sanctioned here, they're just not apart of the government

@santi2683

2 жыл бұрын

@@juniorcrusher2245 he probably means state churches like the Lutheran ones in northern Europe

@corriedebeer799

2 жыл бұрын

@@juniorcrusher2245 I'm talking about how secular the people are. State religion ruins the enterprise of religion in Europe. You know why religion is so successful in the US, because church and state are separate. The British secular humanist have been campaigning for years to get state sanctioned religion abolished which is a weird stance seeing that if it was to happen it would probably lead to a religious renaissance comparable with the reformation

@juniorcrusher2245

2 жыл бұрын

@@santi2683 that's like 1/5 of Europe. Most of Europe is either Catholic or orthodox both being very much state sanctioned

@user-ot2yz7it7i

2 жыл бұрын

@@corriedebeer799 Do not generalize about religion. If that's the case with christianity then whatever. In Islam for example it's part of the religion to rule over a nation to the point where a secular can never be considered a Muslim. So what I am saying is that the secular stuff ain't really applyable and secularism is simply state atheism but under a different name.

"Still remain loyal to their once state sponsored state system". I like most of this video but the assumption that religion is the default is a bit insulting. If anything it shows that once people are removed from any pressure to follow a community religion they choose their own path. Although it is worth noting that he he doesn't differentiate between atheism and agnosticism or any form of personal belief that isn't part of a church.

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

@ItalianIrishguy

2 жыл бұрын

That's not how it works, people naturally crave spirituality and religion. The state sponsored atheism is what was forced on the people of East Germany.

Where exactly in Europe are they religious (outside of Poland perhaps)?

@kevinbergin9971

2 жыл бұрын

@Nocoinersbtfo There are maps on Google.

@andre_cinelli

2 жыл бұрын

Balkans, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Hungary and Portugal are religious

Iron curtain not Berlin wall. West Berlin is inside Brandenburg-Ost.

Angela Merkel father was a priest in GDR church and staunch intercessor of GDR church

@Raubabbau

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the "red" Kasner. Merkel herself was a Fdj Secretary.

It's because there are almost no Polak or Moravak people in the East. I lived in weird and decadent Berlin and now I live in twisted and decadent Prague. So Eastern Germany and Bohemia are somewhat atheist (with weird cults of every kind in previously mentioned cities), but why are the fully Slavic countries or areas usually so fanatic in their religious pursuit? And why for example Sweden, Estonia or Albania are so atheist? In compare to them Bohmen or Sachsen are like Vatican!

@oguzhantekden2

2 жыл бұрын

On my main channel, I make videos with subtitles in 3 languages for old folk music of different nations. You are also invited for the videos. :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6562LtsaaubZ7g.html

@tomasl.8806

2 жыл бұрын

Czechia is the most (or the 2nd most) atheist country on the world, which has deep roots in 1400s. Hussitism, crusades against us and Hussite legacy remained. And during communism idea of atheism was even more supported, priesthood persecuted and faith faded. Generally speaking, communism in industrialized regions made faith in God nearly extinct, while in less developed areas in the east faith in God helped to keep people under control. Sweden isn't "so atheist", it's quite a Christian country.

@lamaahruloma4270

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomasl.8806 Even if your assumptions were right, it gives little sense. Many countries endured worse kinds of communism and Czechoslovakia or Czechia became quickly more atheist after the fall of communism. Each year the numbers dropped more and more. It's hard to count it anyway. There are many people claiming to be atheists and also many believing in something. I think Czechia has a lot of religious minorities and many people calling themselves atheists when being buddhist or agnostics, thought not members of any major or organized religious group. It's doubtful at best as is mixing tradition with religion. Aren't the Czech Catholics rather traditionalists as in the Sweden? Sometimes it seems that there are more religions or spiritual ways than people in the Czech republic. But my question is about all the Slavic countries like Slovakia, Ukraine, Russia, Poland and so on? There was also communism. I do agree that Estonia and Albania also had communist regimes. In Albania it's less obvious shift.

@lamaahruloma4270

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomasl.8806 So the Czech republic is Hussite? Why are there the high numbers of Catholics then? Can you provide more about the industrial link? Russians think it has something to do with things like German soul and Slavic soul or how to call it. You can use Jung.

@tomasl.8806

2 жыл бұрын

@@lamaahruloma4270 No, Czech Republic is cca 73-76% atheist, not hussite (although there is still official Czech Brotherhood Church Evangelic with few thousands members). The thing with hussitism is that they had they revolt for freedom of faith. Hussite wars ensured that Czech people were granted freedom to choose which form of Christianity they prefer. But the war was bloody and rough, so people lost their faith in churches in general. So this period helped to lower Catholic influence and decentralize faith in God. Industrial link is simple - More educated or wealthy classes are generally less devoted. Russia/Ukraine had much higher percentage of lower social class citizen than Germany or Czechia, which were highly industrialized

You confuse the Berlin wall with the Iron Curtain. The Berlin wall is (was) IN Berlin. Not on the border of the DDR and BRD.

The Berlin Wall was teh dividing line between East and West Berlin - not East and West Germany

In short, if there is a diffrence between west and east Germany, it's the soviets fault.

Antonio Gramsci said that for the push of the socialist cause, one of the most important factors is the destruction of the church. The GDR lived a long time under the communist regime, so it's natural that they are not religious.

@historyeditz8326

2 жыл бұрын

But atheism is rising in western nations especially in West Europe,Us which are free from Soviet control.

@theyoutubenomad.3035

2 жыл бұрын

@@historyeditz8326 that because of degeneracy and rise in secularism.

@BetoMty007

Жыл бұрын

@@theyoutubenomad.3035 degenracy like paedophile priests, sure.

9:58 - Inner-German Border, not Berlin Wall.

Man I had this question for so long thanks for the video

Sounds like this video was made by mad protestant 😂

How hard can it be to send the missionaries in? I mean, what stopped the missionaries from independently going to preach in East Germany? I know that not everyone is going to listen but at least that must have left some significant impact, right?

@hailgiratinathetruegod7564

2 жыл бұрын

Do you think religious groups didn't try. The people don't care about religion if they were not raised in it.

@scorchedamber

2 жыл бұрын

@@hailgiratinathetruegod7564 hell i dont care about religion and i was "raised in it" xD

@helbrassen4576

2 жыл бұрын

Once a person has been enlightened and lost their faith through by invocing reason and logic it becomes extremely hard to convert them.

@hailgiratinathetruegod7564

2 жыл бұрын

@Nick Fuentes Banned from Everything sounds nice :3 I like fire. It is hot and looks funny

@dawoifee

2 жыл бұрын

That's why Religions indoctrinate Children and use Families to do so. Grownups never raised in a Religion are harde to convert and are not eager for their kids to get raised in a Religion.

Nicely explained.

I don’t think the Berlin Wall went along the entire border of east and west Germany

Maybe, just maybe, it also has something to do with the fact that there is no evidence supporting god's existence, just saying...

@SevenThunderful

2 жыл бұрын

One word, Israel. Israel has been reborn just as prophesied. Atheists truly are ignorant about God's word and fulfilled prophecies. Name one other ancient country with a 2 thousand year old proclamation of being reborn in the last days that has been fulfilled. Scriptures that speak of Israels rebirth are: Ezekiel 34:13, Amos 9:14, Jeremiah 16:14-15, which even prophesies that Jews would return to Israel from the north, aka Russia. There are many other fulfilled prophecies in the Bible that have no explanation other than the existence of a transcendent God.

@wai828

2 жыл бұрын

@@SevenThunderful Lol. Of course, the reborn of Israel cannot be explained rationally. It's not like the place was literally invaded by Jews following the WWII, eh? It's pretty disrespectful for anyone involved in the creation of Israel to think God just spawned this country out of existence, but I guess anything that helps you deal with your denial sounds fine to you. When people want proof of God existence, they want something respecting the scientific method. Not some random prophecies in a book written by humans.

@elcaricaturable

2 жыл бұрын

​@@SevenThunderful Are you saying that it is so illogical for people to be granted land while displacing the inhabitants due to something written thousands of years ago that there has to be a supernatural explanation for that? well, maybe you have a point, it seems really absurd to me :P

@kacgb5315

2 жыл бұрын

@@elcaricaturable or just maybe, maybe.....it was state atheism and the ppl there believe in atheism cos theyv been brought up in it and everything they've known was atheistic... that could be a thought who knows but that's the biggest reasons and factor for sure, and evidence for gods existence it.depends on what u see as evidence cos u could be a hyper sceptic like Dawkins and explain anything away and it will never convince u, so evidence is subjective to everyone, just like u would have to show that there is no God and u try to show evidence ic an just say there isnt any going against gods existence but ay each to their own

@elcaricaturable

2 жыл бұрын

@@kacgb5315 Now I'm thinking that you are right. Sorry I didn't reply earlier, I was praying Our Nonexistent Father, it is a prayer that I repeat every day to stay an atheist. I was also confessing all my sins to my totalitarian commissar, because I was considering the possibility that God really exists, and just thinking about it is a sin. He is so totalitarian that he can ask me any detail about my personal life that he considers a sin. With mandatory prayers and conffessions, no wonder why there are so many atheists in those formerly totalitarian countries.

In the long run we will probably become an atheistic country, or a country of individual religious practice. The behavior of the churches in Germany is shameful. What you saw in the German Pope. He remained silent about the abuse, in his home town of Regebsburg an alarming number of choirboys were abused. Nationwide cases of abuse with the epicenter in Cologne, where the responsible bishop tried to prevent the publication of the reports. Then there are the cases of wasted money in the diocese of Limburg or the "Carithas lie" where the church falsely claims to finance hospitals and the like, but 90% of which is paid through taxes. Then the cases where the church fired doctors, the raped women gave the morning-after pill, a geriatric nurse who was divorced and remarried was fired or people who left the church. From my family I know that at least the numbers look like this: the churches were empty on Sundays even before Covid, fewer and fewer parents are baptizing their children or for first communion, and there are almost no church weddings. Only the funerals rise.

@quakeknight9680

2 жыл бұрын

Yet you have a pfp like a hypocrate you are.

@the_odd_cat553

2 жыл бұрын

Basiertes Profilbild Bruder

@samuelmithran5586

2 жыл бұрын

@83 Fleet83 Jesus is the only way

@nils.philip

2 жыл бұрын

@83 Fleet83 And this dumb argument about religion and faith is one of the reasons why I don't see religion as a good thing

The difference between Nazis and Stazis was not explained well. Hitler strongly hated communism and so did his followers. Most of the Stazi were Russian or Polish ex military police. It’s a common misconception that the Nazis liked communism because they were the National Socialist German Workers Party. The Nazis were far right extremists who completely opposed communism because of its liberal origins.

One point: this statistic IS correct. But one major thing. In a 1924 survey of the Prussian Union of Churches in the city of Berlin, only 9-15% of self identified Lutherans attended services. This is both West and East Berlin as this divide was nonexistent. In the Prussian region I think it was more openly Christian. Though I haven’t found any statistics to back this. Except that there were a lot of Catholics (of which over 50% of German Catholics attended Mass services in the 1920s) and it wasn’t as industrialized and not as urban. Probably it was higher among Lutherans too in rural areas, and when you consider that even some very Lutheran counties in East Prussia may have been about 10-15% Catholic it was probably much higher. For rural areas in current eastern Germany I do not know if it was very atheist or not, but statistics show church fell off earlier in some areas.

I wished you would have emphasized a bit more on the different laws against christians: For example, you weren't allowed to study in east Germany if you were a member of the curch.

@humphrey9535

2 жыл бұрын

You were allowed to study as member of a church, just look at the german chancellor.

I have no sympathies for Stalin. That said, the one sidedness of this video was flagrant. You made it seem like the West was doing nothing but minding their own p's and q's, and being innocent and impartial. As if they weren't working with the same Nazis you mentioned the East working with. Look up Operation Gladio for Christ sake.. Trying to watch interesting, well illustrated videos about history - not be dowsed in Western propaganda. I was educated in the US, I've already received more than enough of that.

@mabeSc

2 жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, in retrospect, is easy to say which regime was evil and godless. Yet, during the 20th century, there were times where the USSR surpassed the West in nearly all aspects (people, at times, even thought that communism was going to take over the world) - this unfortunately was not the case later on with idiotic head of states (e.g. Nikita Khrushchev).

@rafaelgonzalez6649

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they blame Communism for everything while they conveniently ignore US racism, slavery, apartheid, white supremacism, and Native American genocides. US army in WW2 was blatantly racist and only allow a few non whites to enlist. While soviets had hundreds of thousands of non white slavs around. Let’s not forget British Churchill well planed famine on India 🇮🇳...

I think the atheist Czech Republic and Catholic Poland are the best examples to show what's really driving the issue: In the Czech Republic the Catholic church is linked with centuries of Habsburg religious war and oppression. In Poland the Catholic church is linked with resistance to Communist rule and the Prussian/Russian rule before that.

@dantedante839

2 жыл бұрын

Many Prussians were Catholics, my friends and don't forget that Prussia never ruled over Poland, but RUSSIA.

It was Silesia that was catholic ? In the SE Germany?

@RangaTurk

2 жыл бұрын

East Prussia was only ever about 12% Catholic at the max. Lutheranism was always the outright majority.

@dpwXXIPolskaPolak

2 жыл бұрын

Silesia was partly Protestant partly more to south catolic .Now it is mostly catholic because it belongs to Poland

You can say a lot about East Germany but it’s view on religion is probably the best what day ever did

@ermin2248

2 жыл бұрын

opressing and banning religion is in your opinion good?

@limondorn1494

2 жыл бұрын

@@ermin2248 yes

@ermin2248

2 жыл бұрын

@@limondorn1494 and sending religious people and priests to working camps?

@limondorn1494

2 жыл бұрын

@@ermin2248 yes

@limondorn1494

2 жыл бұрын

And yes

Why does the tone of this documentary make is sound like it's a bad thing? The more secular a country the more prosperous and free, while the more religious it is, the more 3rd world it remains.

I love curiosity stream

Can you do the same video for turkey , cause they are also kind of half atheist and half muslim

@Huzuh.

2 ай бұрын

Only Western parts like Izmir are not religious of Turkyie.