Why didn't Rome Conquer Germania?

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  • @AliothAncalagon
    @AliothAncalagon Жыл бұрын

    Imagine fighting fierce tribes in hardly passable forrests every step on your way and when you eventually "conquer" an enemy headquarter its just a hill with 5 shacks on it. Germania was the perfect combo of being both tough to beat militarily and economically totally worthless to conquer.

  • @eddiep7444

    @eddiep7444

    Жыл бұрын

    Similar to Russia throughout history

  • @rickrozen2341

    @rickrozen2341

    Жыл бұрын

    Romaboo cope

  • @yannickmussche5068

    @yannickmussche5068

    Жыл бұрын

    That is not how the fight happened. The documentary is wrong. For instance, one moment, after a three days of fighting while slowly moving to open ground where they would defeat the germans easily, they left the army truss. When the barbarians found these treasures, they almost stayed their with their treasury, cause they already lost so much more men than the romans. It was Arminius again that could convince them to leave the riches behind and start to hunt the romans down again. They were really not though to beat military.

  • @rickrozen2341

    @rickrozen2341

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yannickmussche5068 Romaboo coping at its best

  • @AliothAncalagon

    @AliothAncalagon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yannickmussche5068 Three days of fighting? Whatever your source is, if it seriously claims that the ambush lasted 3 days it should be considered a myth that you should only take with a massive pinch of salt.

  • @chi111y
    @chi111y2 жыл бұрын

    It’s a common theme throughout history that guerilla warfare by small tribes in hostile terrain are the hardest to defeat.

  • @luluishername

    @luluishername

    2 жыл бұрын

    Afghanistan lol

  • @davidlefranc6240

    @davidlefranc6240

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@luluishername and vietnam

  • @AcostWiest

    @AcostWiest

    2 жыл бұрын

    FARC.

  • @eniff2925

    @eniff2925

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@luluishername Afghanistan is very bad terrain. Every attempt at conquering by the British, the Russians and the Americans were failed. Probably the hardest land to traverse in the world.

  • @KevinKingofPrussians

    @KevinKingofPrussians

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eniff2925 Greeks conquered it tho

  • @giannb5145
    @giannb5145 Жыл бұрын

    When you think about it, the Romans actually conquered all of today's Austria and Switzerland and around 30% of today's Germany. In western and southern Germany, many well-known cities actually began as Roman forts or colonies. Examples: Cologne (Colonia Agrippina), Regensburg (Castra Regina), Mainz (Mogontiacum), Augsburg (Augusta Vindelicorum), Trier (Augusta Treverorum).

  • @manzanasrojas6984

    @manzanasrojas6984

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, its common knowledge they basically conquered everything up to the Rhine

  • @Icetea-2000

    @Icetea-2000

    Жыл бұрын

    Well yeah, but germanic tribes (which the romans generalized as Germania) back then extended a lot farther eastward

  • @Icetea-2000

    @Icetea-2000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smartacus88 I don’t know whether you’re referring to central asia because of indo-aryans or caucasians (which is arguably europe), however this is not entirely accurate unless we go back all the way to the settling of europe by the homo sapiens. Since we came from africa, and had to cross asia to get to europe by land, it’s kind of a given that europeans sort of came from asia but that’s so unrelated and so far in the past that it basically doesn’t matter and isn’t a satisfying conclusion. And whites aren’t just germanics I would say, but I don’t know because the American definition for whites is so convoluted at this point

  • @Icetea-2000

    @Icetea-2000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smartacus88 Really what they should just do is refer to every ethnicity individually instead of "white" and "black", it only makes racial problems worse. And it’s also just better to be more accurate

  • @madkills10

    @madkills10

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smartacus88 Slavic is nothing like Italian or Greek

  • @MaisuBirb
    @MaisuBirb Жыл бұрын

    I live at the exact place, Neuwied, where Caesar built his first Rhine Bridge in 55 BC. It is also the same area where we kicked the Vikings out over 900 years later when they sacked everything downstream up to around Andernach and Neuwied. There are a LOT of historical ruins, towers, museums and information to just soak up in and it got me highly invested into more ancient history and a bit of archaeology. My first town I lived in, Mülheim-Kärlich over 20 years ago, which had just behind our garages a fully uncovered ruin of a Roman Villa. I would go there daily and hop around the former walls and just be in awe, even at a young age. Sadly it has recently fallen victim to vandalism and is no longer open to the public.

  • @devin3201

    @devin3201

    2 ай бұрын

    Ja moin, grüße aus Koblenz

  • @uhbaoifuhoiafj456
    @uhbaoifuhoiafj4562 жыл бұрын

    When Arminius got accused that he would betray Varus he actually said that this is true but everyone took this as a joke. Sometimes the best lie is the truth.

  • @scintillam_dei

    @scintillam_dei

    2 жыл бұрын

    Truth can't be a lie though, so he was deceptive without lying.

  • @sparkyfromel

    @sparkyfromel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scintillam_dei.... an old trope is that there is ten ways of lying , only one is purely a lie the nine others are a crafty mix

  • @scintillam_dei

    @scintillam_dei

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@paprskomet Roman writers said that northern savages had remarkable height and light colours, yet people in many cases depict the early ancient Romans as light-eyed with brown hair making them look just like Goths. Even the Barbarian series is inaccurate. At least they don't have a cringetastic English mispronunciation of Latin more cringetastic than the word cringetastic.

  • @stockrex

    @stockrex

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scintillam_dei at least Cringetastic is pronounced with a hard K, so kind of Latin.

  • @uhbaoifuhoiafj456

    @uhbaoifuhoiafj456

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scintillam_dei Never heared about stylistic devices?

  • @bethmarriott9292
    @bethmarriott92922 жыл бұрын

    Augustus just whacking his head against the wall in frustration is one of the most relatable things he ever did

  • @dfjanus8014

    @dfjanus8014

    2 жыл бұрын

    its v likely seutonius said that for dramatic effect lol... from what we know abt augustus he was the last person on earth to behave like that... im guessing seutonius was trying to get across that augustus was PISSED

  • @lordsiomai

    @lordsiomai

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. Who knew Augustus was so relatable

  • @lovingmontasoccer

    @lovingmontasoccer

    2 жыл бұрын

    And the most disrespectfull thing what he has done to Varus! A real leader would had made a proper burial! The spartan culture was harsher but i believe they had more passion and respect!

  • @bravomike4734

    @bravomike4734

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Amadeus Gaming Was Julius first or Augustus?

  • @kaushikvsmaniyan

    @kaushikvsmaniyan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bravomike4734 Good point. I'd say Julius was the first, paving the way for the Princepe

  • @ingaz6565
    @ingaz6565 Жыл бұрын

    There is a large part missing from this video. Marcus Aurelius would later fight a series of battles against the Germanic tribes, defeating them but his death put a halt to the drive north into Germania. His son Commodus decided (against his fathers advisors) to instead make peace with the tribes. This would prove a costly mistake as centuries later it was these tribes among others that would invade the western roman empire and lead to its downfall.

  • @NazriB

    @NazriB

    Жыл бұрын

    Lies again? Army's Largest Fleet

  • @muxmurki1497

    @muxmurki1497

    Жыл бұрын

    what was so bad about that? Empires have to fall. Greetings to Brandon, btw.

  • @iceswallow7717

    @iceswallow7717

    Жыл бұрын

    idk if conquering Germania wouldve stopped Attila, but the real reason Rome fell was bcz of the instability from succession civil wars and plagues in the third century.

  • @nicholasscott5905

    @nicholasscott5905

    Жыл бұрын

    Is that the guy from Spartacus whose son raped some slave chick and Caesar but then got tent poled by the rebels

  • @broadcasttttable

    @broadcasttttable

    Жыл бұрын

    So how did the battle scene at the beginning of "Gladiator" fit into all this?

  • @3.2Carrera
    @3.2Carrera Жыл бұрын

    When you go to Germany today and stand on the banks of the Rhine, it's just so formidable. If you're outnumbered and stretched thin by the requirements of a large empire, it turned out to be the only way they could defend their borders.

  • @bulldowozer5858
    @bulldowozer58582 жыл бұрын

    "As Tiberius was now busy in the Balcans" Some thing just never change

  • @bcjmythical9576

    @bcjmythical9576

    2 жыл бұрын

    As the UN is busy with Tiberius...

  • @hoppeltrottel7484

    @hoppeltrottel7484

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Balcans - causing trouble for major european powers since 6 B.C. (at least).

  • @iadertina

    @iadertina

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. The famous rebellion of two Batons (Illyrian military leaders, who opposed massive inscriptions of Illyrians in Roman army) played great role.

  • @justinallen2408

    @justinallen2408

    2 жыл бұрын

    The real trouble was not ending their leadership and installing new roman ones in their place over there

  • @karlmuller3690

    @karlmuller3690

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@justinallen2408 - KILL ALL THE RULING CLASSES ... seems like a good idea !! When do we START??

  • @benyseus6325
    @benyseus63252 жыл бұрын

    And then years later the Germanics would be one of the primal catalysts in the fall of the Western Roman Empire, so good job Varus I guess.

  • @angelb.823

    @angelb.823

    2 жыл бұрын

    And centuries later, Germanics (or Franks to that regard) would have the privilege of entitling themselves Romans by the Pope.

  • @doyouevenpraise189

    @doyouevenpraise189

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well not exactly, The the Visigoths just give the already broken and crumbling Roman Empire the last Hit. Economic troubles and overreliance on slave labor. The rise of the Eastern Empire. Overexpansion and military overspending. Government corruption and political instability. The arrival of the Huns and the migration of the Barbarian tribes. Weakening of the Roman legions Christianity and the loss of traditional values constant Invasions by Barbarian tribes the frequent civil wars. Time, no empire rule forever. This were some of the main reasons the Western Roman Empire fell

  • @rockyrakovica603

    @rockyrakovica603

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@doyouevenpraise189 yes the complete answer western rome more or less killed itself

  • @Ditka-89

    @Ditka-89

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@doyouevenpraise189 so essentially the same criteria for the fall of the American Empire

  • @Apollo1989V

    @Apollo1989V

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only because the Huns started pushing them.

  • @adriennegormley9358
    @adriennegormley9358 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting finding this video now, as I am currently rereading Lindsey Davis' IRON HAND OF MARS. Davis includes a lot of information on what happened to Varus in her background on this book. Her book takes place in 71 CE after Vespasian took power. Both Davis and Steven Saylor have done a lot of great background work for their mysteries set in Rome.

  • @Tom-lk6om
    @Tom-lk6om2 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys I'm from "Kreis Lippe" and we are Arminen and still very proud of Arminius. We have a football club called after Arminius (Arminia Bielefeld) and we have a huge monument for him too. (Herrmanns Denkmal)

  • @fireheat8738

    @fireheat8738

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's very Barbari

  • @Tom-lk6om

    @Tom-lk6om

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Sam-pie yeah thats the question but he defents this region and the people that lived here from the enemies. It's a matter of perspective in this case.

  • @davidstolle1696

    @davidstolle1696

    2 жыл бұрын

    Die hauptschlacht war jedoch im Kreis Osnabrück bei kalkriese. The Main Battle was Not in lippe it was in kalkriese near by Osnabrück

  • @stratman9449

    @stratman9449

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Sam-pie why..are you a roman or a viking.....??...:-)

  • @sicnarf6971

    @sicnarf6971

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Sam-pie What a stupid statement. Protecting your homeland from invaders is something to be proud of.

  • @adder95
    @adder952 жыл бұрын

    Germany was probably very heavily forested at that time (it still has a lot today), making it very difficult to explore

  • @derkelch2228

    @derkelch2228

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love the german forests so much I like my country but sometimes our politicians are a bit silly but when you look at the whole country and conpare it with other countries you see that Germany is not bad at all

  • @ianmelon484

    @ianmelon484

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericziqn7019 it doesn't matter if nobody asked, people can say whatever they want to at any time

  • @mikeguce7959

    @mikeguce7959

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not only heavily forested,there is so many hills and mountains,that a roman legion will find difficult not just on travelling but fighting... The roman legion were mostly reliant on their siege weapons and foot soldiers,the romans have very few cavalry force...

  • @gunnigasig9084

    @gunnigasig9084

    2 жыл бұрын

    Look at the standard cammo of the Bundeswehr (the German Army). Forests still give a huge impact on Germanys landscape. 👍🏻

  • @Soloknechter

    @Soloknechter

    Жыл бұрын

    That is not really the case. The untouched forests of course were deep and overgrown but those near settlements were actually quite thin. While there were huge trees there was not much understory since the germans sent their livestock into the forests to feed on seeds and smaller plants

  • @tonyhawk94
    @tonyhawk942 жыл бұрын

    Very light explanation... 1 - Romans did have two Germanic provinces "Germania inferior" and "superior" That are here showed as "Gauls" Which it wasn't. 2 - Keep in mind that Germania magna was low in population, a huge swamp with no real economic or geopolitic interest 3 - All that while the center of power and economy was the Mediterranean sea. 4 - With many rivlaries and bigger problems to deal elsewhere in the frontiers than wasting time, men and money invading this land

  • @patttrick

    @patttrick

    2 жыл бұрын

    spoil sport

  • @jorehir

    @jorehir

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed. Also, Rome suffered many worse defeats, and yet always kept on fighting until the end, if there was a reason to. There was no reason to keep on fighting Germania. The balance between costs and benefits did not favor a new campaign. Of course, in hindsight, a conquest of Germania would have avoided the Germanic migrations of the 5th century... But nobody can blame the Romans of the 1st century for not anticipating that.

  • @Dante-mr3rz

    @Dante-mr3rz

    2 жыл бұрын

    No it wouldn't, because many of those migrations started further east. The only thing that would happen is earlier contact with Huns or some other nomadic nation and that's not a good idea.

  • @Cloud-dq1mr

    @Cloud-dq1mr

    2 жыл бұрын

    So basically, since they wanted to conquer Germania but couldn't they resorted to all your presented arguments as the reason to leave it be.

  • @jorehir

    @jorehir

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Cloud-dq1mr It's simple: if a new territory can give you 100, to achieve a net gain you must spend less than 100 for its conquest. With those 3 lost legions and other campaigns, the Romans were approaching said 100 threeshold, such that another campaign might have made the conquest of Germania Magna not convenient. Same goes for the Kush Kingdom. Rome renounced to its conquest, so some people claim that Rome (of the 1st century) didn't have the power to conquer it... Ridiculous.

  • @alandoe1122
    @alandoe11222 жыл бұрын

    nicely done, easy to understand with simple visuals

  • @Nachtrot
    @Nachtrot2 жыл бұрын

    I live in Köln Deutz (part of Colonia Claudia Ara Agrippinensium). It's a pity that we have lost so many roman artifacts. At least some pieces of the wall are still there.

  • @phlm9038

    @phlm9038

    Жыл бұрын

    Due to too many bombings during WW2.

  • @Rondo2ooo

    @Rondo2ooo

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@PHL M Nope, a lot still exists, because Roman remainings are often underground. And there is still plenty of it. If you are interested, take one of the historical city tours with a historian guide. They are done throughout the year and there are many interesting facts.

  • @corbeau-_-
    @corbeau-_-2 жыл бұрын

    and because their armies suffered overwhelming losses against a small village in Gaul, led by Asterix and Obelix.

  • @pedromdrveiga9777

    @pedromdrveiga9777

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @1337-Nathaniel

    @1337-Nathaniel

    Жыл бұрын

    @Ronnie and I have you read the comics? They're great!!

  • @AndreasGaarder

    @AndreasGaarder

    Жыл бұрын

    @@1337-Nathaniel They are available in Latin. "Delirant, isti Romani!" (Asterix beating up legionary)

  • @lisztdylan7846

    @lisztdylan7846

    Жыл бұрын

    @Ronnie and I the comics were everything, growing up in Luxembourg I had a collection of all the old asterix et Obélix co'icz

  • @hb9145

    @hb9145

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I read that in a book.

  • @erzar.1730
    @erzar.17302 жыл бұрын

    5:04 now THAT'S what I call foreshadowing

  • @cypsrp7924
    @cypsrp7924 Жыл бұрын

    The Netflix show Barbarians season 1 highlighted this exactly! It was really well done. Plus, I speak German so it was fun to watch in their native German!

  • @rainerm.8168

    @rainerm.8168

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely not THEIR native German. That was an ancient form of some Germania tribes' languages that much much later developed into German.

  • @petertraurig5728
    @petertraurig5728 Жыл бұрын

    5:00 "He payed special attention to the Eruscus tribe" is an understatement. He straight up kidnapped the leaders kids and braught them up himself in Rome.

  • @hardwing
    @hardwing2 жыл бұрын

    It is worth mentioning, that Rome was very much a mediteran civilisation. Its major centers of population and economy lay there. This is also one of the reasons Britain was conquered so late. The Rhine was just a great border, but to really subdue all German tribes they would have needed to expand to the Vistula ... a logistic nightmare and an invitation to the horse tribes of the plain.

  • @christianfreedom-seeker934

    @christianfreedom-seeker934

    2 жыл бұрын

    All Rome had to do was unite all of the Germanic Tribes under a Kaiser who would then be subject to Rome. This is what I would have done: Find a strong warrior chieftain, arm him with Roman weapons and send him on a conquest of all Germania. After he beats his last enemies, give him enough gold to build a magnificent city and a system of forts or castles to hold the empire together. There, Rome could have had a protected “back door” and they could have taken on the Persians, make them also into a vassal state.

  • @EmilReiko

    @EmilReiko

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@christianfreedom-seeker934 the social organization of the germanic tribes, both within and between would have made such a despot an impossibility, sure he might conquer alot - but his entire empire would fall apart the moment he died, as all loyalty was sworn directly onto him... Also kings or warleaders were appointed by tribal strongmen when needed and operated under constraint... Any gemanic ruler who too openly wen't against the traditional structuring of power, would very fast find himself a human saccrifice in one of those swamps

  • @BrightWendigo

    @BrightWendigo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christianfreedom-seeker934 ah yes, create your own German vlad the impaler😂

  • @samuelbishop1701

    @samuelbishop1701

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@christianfreedom-seeker934 Wouldn't work. It sounds like a good idea in theory since it was actually done before to my knowledge in non German speaking places. That said, Germanic tribes of their era had a culture of backstabbing the man at the top of the hill. There's every chance the man you put in charge will just spit in your face after he's suceeded, And then he's even more dangerous than your previous enemy. Because they're German and not Roman, the soldiers will continue listening to him

  • @MicroageHD

    @MicroageHD

    Жыл бұрын

    Scotland was never conquered right?

  • @funnycat1957
    @funnycat19572 жыл бұрын

    The Roman historian Tacitus answers the question raised by this video in four Latin words:"coercendum intra terminos imperium" (restraining the Empire within its boundaries) to describe the policy of the emperor Augustus at the end of his life and that of his successor Tiberius. Contrary to Alexander the Great of Macedon, the Romans realised that conquering is one thing, pacifying and building a lasting civil administration another thing which was equally important (I think they learnt that lesson after the Second Punic War when they saw how easily their Italian and Sicilian allies would desert if given a chance,as Capua, Syracuse etc had gone over to Carthage.

  • @TheWhiskyDelta

    @TheWhiskyDelta

    2 жыл бұрын

    Provinces were only ineffecient under the empire, due to it's need to centralise and control, as well as its fear of competent governors and generals who would be rivals to the throne. Under the republic provinces were massively cash positive, in great part due to the fact that they could just assign talent to solve problems.

  • @josephgoodwin3863

    @josephgoodwin3863

    Жыл бұрын

    They were conquered, hence the Holy Roman Empire.

  • @viktor8928

    @viktor8928

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, Tacitus said Germania was a region "hideous and rude, under a rigorous climate, dismal to behold or to cultivate". Also, "silver and gold the Gods have denied them, whether in mercy or in wrath, I am unable to determine".

  • @myrnaa1077

    @myrnaa1077

    Жыл бұрын

    @@viktor8928Agreed. All these conversations and reasons why rome didnt conquer and rule germania can be summed up in one single expression. If you conquer stupid net-negative areas for stupid reasons, the quicker your empire will dissolve. The Romans absolutely could, if they neglect more important things that are attributing to the empires longevity, influence, and legacy. No one knew the northern reaches would be a problem until much later centuries; and even if they conquered germania, once again, then that negligence to the other more important and powerful areas (of any kind) that need more importantly be attended to.. would have dissolved the roman empire in the early 400 AD in example, rather than later (i.e. another more powerful enemy not being stopped from growing to be ignored, in order to ignorantly conquer all of unprofitable germania, would have been the germania of the later stages of the roman empire).

  • @funnycat1957

    @funnycat1957

    Жыл бұрын

    @@viktor8928 Good point, there was not much economic incentive to invade Germania.

  • @seb0rn739
    @seb0rn739 Жыл бұрын

    In 8th grade, we had a field trip in Kalkriese where the battle of Teutoburger Wald between Varus and the Germanic tribes probably happened and where one of those Roman armoured masks was found. It's actually not far from where I live. Back then, I didn't think of it much but looking back it was an amazing experience. It's basically an open-air museum where they traced back and reconstructed battle fortifications. There were also some digging sites where archaeologists were still looking for weapons, armour, coins, and stuff.

  • @cptnbangatron2221
    @cptnbangatron2221 Жыл бұрын

    This was super interesting, thx for this

  • @dnocturn84
    @dnocturn842 жыл бұрын

    Be aware: this video is quite inaccurate! Consider it to be more fun and entertainment than any kind of valid information! There is an error regarding what is called "Gaul" and with this an massive error regarding "conquering Germania" in general. This kind of violates what this video is all about though... The territories right next (left of) to the Rhine were already German tribe territories, not Gaul territories by any means, like what the narrator is talking about on multiple occations. These territories were called "Germania Superior" and "Germania Inferior" and were actually German tribe lands which were conquered by the Romans. This means, that quite a number of Germans were living under Roman rule at this point in time. This feature is quite significant when talking about the Varus battle (and their part in the fall of Rome, but the video doesn't go that far). Gaul territory surprisingly ends a lot further to the west, than what the map is showing or what the narrator is telling us about. It was the larger "Germania Magna" to the right of the Rhine (but also a bit further east, than what the map shows), that the Romans "failed" to conquer. This video also misses the opportunity to mention the "Limes" border defence installation, the second largest in the world in size, after the Chinese Wall. This was build by the Romans to protect themselves from the German tribes living in Germania Magna.

  • @wendellthomas179

    @wendellthomas179

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the information....these videos that are narrated by the author or whatever, always, always are f****** flawed...😀😳👎🏾👎🏾👀

  • @dnocturn84

    @dnocturn84

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wendellthomas179 It's a shame in my opinion. Because the video quality, animation (ok, there isn't that much, but better than some other videos out there) and narrator voice all seem pretty appealing to me. Sucks, that he ignores so much about this topic. Unfortunately, the level of misinformation is way to high, that you can't count is as "simplified" or " in a nutshell" kind of video. Watch other videos instead or search for "Germania Superior", "Germania Inferior", Germanic tribes and the Romans, or whatever, if you are interested to learn more about this topic.

  • @Alex-zs7gw

    @Alex-zs7gw

    2 жыл бұрын

    Were you there babe?

  • @kdshak4904

    @kdshak4904

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dnocturn84 Well said. This videos is to be considered as part of many other videos and written material. No single book or a video can do justice to a complex topic such Roman Empire. 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @finngregory3599

    @finngregory3599

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wendellthomas179 you should see half the videos out there about Vikings, the inaccuracies drive me nuts, but the videos are still entertaining.

  • @erikt1713
    @erikt17132 жыл бұрын

    Actually, they conquered a nice chunk of Germania and founded cities there such as Cologne, still the fourth largest city in today's Germany. They also traded a lot with Germania and made several incursions. Every empire must end somewhere and this is just where the border was. An empire cannot overstretch itself, either.

  • @erikt1713

    @erikt1713

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Eff dees - These areas are heavily populated, but I agree that they never conquered the heart of Germania. Of course, it's tough to compare to today's states and the Roman geographers were not so sure either where Germania should end in the East. East of river Elbe the people were culturally different, that's for sure. From the structure of villages those were recognizable as Slavic. The expansion of German-speaking people all the way to the Baltic states was only in the Middle Ages.

  • @aoki6332

    @aoki6332

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@erikt1713 what they mean when they say when not conquering Germania is they stopped at the Rhine not going more than that

  • @ghost91698

    @ghost91698

    2 жыл бұрын

    It clearly shows in the video what you said. It seems like you didn’t watch the video. No reason to say actually when the video states what you said.

  • @embreis2257

    @embreis2257

    2 жыл бұрын

    well, Cologne and a number of other cities well known today are on the left bank of the river Rhine and therefore in Roman territory. however, the map shown in this video does not cover all Roman territory in what is known as Germania. The river Danube was another frontier and the land south of the Danube was occupied by Rome for a long time

  • @enricomanno8434

    @enricomanno8434

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plus Magonza..Treviri Etc etc

  • @safebet5841
    @safebet5841 Жыл бұрын

    A continuous year insertion would have been nice. Great content.

  • @sanjin365
    @sanjin3652 жыл бұрын

    I love your Channel bro. Great Stuff

  • @DylanWolfram14
    @DylanWolfram142 жыл бұрын

    This is how I like to start my Saturday morning

  • @soberman1520

    @soberman1520

    2 жыл бұрын

    it's actually 10pm here

  • @zacharysoares1985

    @zacharysoares1985

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right with a joint in hand ;)

  • @jessd1952

    @jessd1952

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jumping Romans that are in your backyard? Swing first, ask questions later lol.

  • @garygardener2138

    @garygardener2138

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zacharysoares1985 Same👊🏻

  • @gutholz4443

    @gutholz4443

    2 жыл бұрын

    You like to start your saturday with expanding your kingdom?

  • @DamonNomad82
    @DamonNomad822 жыл бұрын

    To set Augustus' reaction to Arminius' betrayal to verse: "Roses are red, My Empire rules many regions, Quintilius Varus, Give me back my Legions!"

  • @alimuhannad9476

    @alimuhannad9476

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cringe

  • @arthur2953

    @arthur2953

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alimuhannad9476 Stay mad cringelord

  • @flyshacker
    @flyshacker Жыл бұрын

    I didn’t know any of this! Perhaps this was the turning point in the entire Roman Empire? Thanks for the video!

  • @Ch0ckl8
    @Ch0ckl8 Жыл бұрын

    This is much needed context, thanks

  • @sizanogreen9900
    @sizanogreen99002 жыл бұрын

    I think it would have been nice to have mentioned the Limes in this video, as it is practically the symbol of the romans giving up on conquering germania instead focussing on drawing a line in the sand, much like hadrians wall in northern britain.

  • @TheCrazierz

    @TheCrazierz

    2 жыл бұрын

    It did mention forts being built

  • @sizanogreen9900

    @sizanogreen9900

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheCrazierz yeah but most people won't think of a hundreds of kilometer long border wall with just that and frankly I have the suspicion that quite a lot of people have never heard of the german limes only of hadrians wall.

  • @c.j.rogers2422

    @c.j.rogers2422

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hadrian's wall was not so much a defensive barrier or the point at which the RE gave up on expansion, as is erroneously assumed, as it was a method of consolidating travel corridors to facilitate the collection of border and commerce taxes.

  • @RustyDust101

    @RustyDust101

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Limes also was not a solid wall all along the border of the conquered Roman territory in Germania Magna. It was a string of forts / castellae within easy signaling of each other. There were some minor palisades but not a true WALL along this line of forts in areas where natural borders like rivers or such did not provide ample defense.

  • @sizanogreen9900

    @sizanogreen9900

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RustyDust101 Well, hadrians wall also was not that impressive as a wall. And besides this is not a wall measuring contest, if it were we should be talking about that chinese one. Also I recall the palisades being acompanied by earthen works concentrating trade through a manageable number of gateways for taxation purposes. Either way, impressive structure which should be more widely known.

  • @arcomegis9999
    @arcomegis99992 жыл бұрын

    Total War: Rome II actually did its best to recreate the factions. The threat of Germanic tribes is implemented in also Aurelian's reconquest whilst besieged on all sides. Even the tribes in Pannonia , former Dacian territory, now Goths pose a threat.

  • @logankite1226
    @logankite12262 жыл бұрын

    Gotta respect the Germans and their resilience throughout history.

  • @myrnaa1077

    @myrnaa1077

    2 ай бұрын

    They were cuccs, pink nordicucc barbarians that only took advantage of Rome having MULTIPLE civil wars and political conniving politicians and generals

  • @RageCage1701

    @RageCage1701

    2 ай бұрын

    It was less German resiliency and more the Romans determining at a grand strategic level that it wasn't worth their time. We can debate the wisdom of that determination.

  • @MagicButterz

    @MagicButterz

    Ай бұрын

    @@myrnaa1077 they weren't barbarians

  • @Uthandol

    @Uthandol

    17 сағат бұрын

    @@myrnaa1077 lol, cope and seethe afrikan. cope and seethe

  • @Uthandol

    @Uthandol

    17 сағат бұрын

    @@RageCage1701 germans were better. now rome is a dusty memory and germany is the strongest country in europe even after losing two world wars.

  • @Getinson
    @Getinson Жыл бұрын

    Love these, awesome

  • @HistoryOfRevolutions
    @HistoryOfRevolutions2 жыл бұрын

    Thucydides once stated: "War is an evil thing; but to submit to the dictation of other states is worse.... Freedom, if we hold fast to it, will ultimately restore our losses, but submission will mean permanent loss of all that we value.... To you who call yourselves men of peace, I say: You are not safe unless you have men of action on your side"

  • @LKaramazov

    @LKaramazov

    2 жыл бұрын

    The feminists who are running our country into the ground will soon discover this to all our cost.

  • @emib6599

    @emib6599

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can do that even better, you can wage war against your free country for achieving the freedom to submit to foreign rule. Freedom is a completely arbitrary concept this is why this pompous old phrase don't have sense and they can be re used by everyone without any real meaning.

  • @scintillam_dei

    @scintillam_dei

    2 жыл бұрын

    Suicides once said: "If anyone dares make a joke using this stupid name, they should consider suicide."

  • @lancevance5907
    @lancevance59072 жыл бұрын

    Germans: *Spend centuries trying to beat the Roman Empire* Also Germans: *Spend centuries arguing that they're the rightful children of the Roman Empire*

  • @Philipp.of.Swabia

    @Philipp.of.Swabia

    2 жыл бұрын

    @dr. Will J. Rosenblatt 🤣🤣👌🏻

  • @frankishempire2322

    @frankishempire2322

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Spend centuries arguing" There is no arguing...

  • @Philipp.of.Swabia

    @Philipp.of.Swabia

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@frankishempire2322 True. Cause we weren’t.

  • @joelkoffi2806
    @joelkoffi28062 жыл бұрын

    actually watched a movie about it , great doc by the way !

  • @bredsheeran2897
    @bredsheeran28976 ай бұрын

    Bro if only Varus had listened to Armeniuses stepdad 💀

  • @NotVeryRandomDude
    @NotVeryRandomDude2 жыл бұрын

    6:32 Well, he wasn’t wrong.

  • @Atlaspower78
    @Atlaspower782 жыл бұрын

    Rome attacks Germania... grandpa Schwarzenegger: "hold my mead"

  • @Relbl
    @Relbl2 жыл бұрын

    Mountains and rivers, the great borders of antiquity. When you have a natural boundary like the Danube or the Rhine river you can't really expect to take a piece-meal approach to conquest on the other side. The next river to hold would have been the Elbe which is basically the old East-West German border, representing an area maybe half the size of Gaul from the Rhine - still MASSIVE for those times, especially from an already frontier region.

  • @jesperlykkeberg7438

    @jesperlykkeberg7438

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually the next river for the Romans to hold was the Weser river which they had advanced to (at Hameln, Rinteln and Minden Römerlager) and had managed to hold on to, but never the less found too difficult to hold with only three legions especially during the winter, which is one reason why they retreated along Tecklenburger Wald towards their winter quarters at Cologne and Xanten at the Rhine when they were ambushed in the Silvia Teutoburgensis.

  • @emilpetron7214

    @emilpetron7214

    Жыл бұрын

    Some historians state, that the fondness of Romans for rivers as borders caused them many problems. In the ancient world without many good roads and especially in the dense forests or Germania rivers aren't borders. They're the best way to travel and transport good and have contact. So many tribes or groups were unwittingly split by the Romans causing conflict.

  • @insideimagery133
    @insideimagery133 Жыл бұрын

    Reminds of that time when the romans marched north, towards the tribes of cisalpane gaul. They were also ambushed, with the trees playing a big part. Usage of land, influences a lot, it seems.

  • @laniedulay4043
    @laniedulay40432 жыл бұрын

    Overextension and not as much as centralized kingdoms as gaul.

  • @filiptalimdzioski7281

    @filiptalimdzioski7281

    2 жыл бұрын

    bad admin tech got him

  • @dorycarol3170

    @dorycarol3170

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@filiptalimdzioski7281 AE is too high

  • @australiananarchist480

    @australiananarchist480

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean Gaul wasn't exactly centralised either

  • @Ec-yx8gz

    @Ec-yx8gz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Coalition war

  • @BatCostumeGuy

    @BatCostumeGuy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@australiananarchist480 Atleast it had enough tribes to control the whole territory under Rome.

  • @jacksnyder7318
    @jacksnyder73182 жыл бұрын

    The crucial factor for the continuation of any nation regardless of it's affinities is leadership. The Romans lost their commitment to merit advancement and gave into political and nepotism pressures. This has been the downfall of every empire and nation state, resulting in the poorest of choices in military leadership and civil monetary decisions. This is happening today and will tomorrow, human nature is always corrupt.

  • @cautarepvp2079

    @cautarepvp2079

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same thing is Happening to American empire? Give example.. China is the next big boss no?

  • @iche9373

    @iche9373

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh, you explain the fall of the Roman Empire, a complex entity of several thousand years, with ONLY one decisive factor. Man, you are super intelligent. Who are you? Professor Einstein?

  • @lovingmontasoccer

    @lovingmontasoccer

    2 жыл бұрын

    We can clearly see how pathetic the politicians are today!

  • @warmak4576

    @warmak4576

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahhaaha, hahaha, oh you rly think there's another solution then violence? Let me laugh even Harder Hahahah

  • @Loriensen

    @Loriensen

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@iche9373 I suppose he did enumerate the problems on the surface, that does make sense if you look back at the history of many nations committing themselves to this repetitive nature, though I'm sure there are more depths that contributed to the downfall of the Romans that might not have been written down, so we could only speculate those that we could discover.

  • @williamduncan7401
    @williamduncan74012 жыл бұрын

    There is a Netflix series about this that I watched. I am surprised how accurate it was, after seeing this video.

  • @demoulius1529
    @demoulius15292 жыл бұрын

    As a Dutchmen, I can confirm that there isent alot here that would interest conquoring people xD We have land NOW but like half of our country has been 'conquored' from the sea. We have to fortify the ground where we want to build things and even then our buildings tend to sink into the ground (even if just a little and very slowly) at a rate of maybe a half to a few centimeters per year. Sidewalks very regulary have to be raised up again because they have lowered below street level. We are essentially living in a swamp turned semi-solid land and back then, it was just swampy forest.

  • @alessiorenzoni5586
    @alessiorenzoni55862 жыл бұрын

    The Roman occupation of Germany over the course of nearly 20 years of uninterrupted military campaigns (12 BC to AD 5) its eastern borders were expanded and moved further east, from the River Weser to the River Elbe. wild lands (covered by forests and marshes), with a population difficult to control, since it is distributed not in large urban centers but on the contrary in numerous small towns of no more than 50-100 inhabitants, failed when the entire army sent to garrison the new Germanic province, it was completely destroyed in the battle of the Teutoburg Forest, in 9.

  • @raimohoft1236

    @raimohoft1236

    2 жыл бұрын

    There were also initial colonies and trading posts (always Phase I of the roman colonization program) established between Alba and Odra. But after it didn't work out well... well I wouldn't write about my biggest failure snd mistske in MY history books either... what exactly is what ronans did! 🤗

  • @Arcaryon

    @Arcaryon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Germanicus for instance had to take a massive legion into battle to merley *stall* the raids into Roman territory.

  • @yrok244
    @yrok2442 жыл бұрын

    This channel is absolutely incredible. I love the videos you guys create, super informative and very well presented. Seriously underrated channel. Keep up the great work!

  • @AndrewsPublications

    @AndrewsPublications

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who are you?! This is what it is like when children play History and are simply ignorant - even graphically incapable of coming up with something real. Never let your students subscribe to this shit!

  • @harvestingseason2725

    @harvestingseason2725

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AndrewsPublications r u a professor?

  • @aka99

    @aka99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@harvestingseason2725 just a troll. ignore him.

  • @sosig6445
    @sosig6445 Жыл бұрын

    Marcus Aurelius was also close to conquering Germanyia during the Marcomannic war, aldough instead of the Rhine he attacked across the Danube. His sucessor however abandoned the campaign.

  • @GreenWhiteRevolution
    @GreenWhiteRevolution2 жыл бұрын

    Danke Hermann!

  • @BuzzSargent
    @BuzzSargent2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine walking from Rome to Northern Europe. It is easy to forget that to move an army that means walking in these years. Good Show.

  • @AndrewsPublications

    @AndrewsPublications

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who are you? Are you so old and you watch such nonsense?

  • @ugandanwarrior5657

    @ugandanwarrior5657

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not a big deal. Moving an army meant walking all the time untill 20th century.

  • @zacariasdelselva1119

    @zacariasdelselva1119

    2 жыл бұрын

    Western Europe*

  • @stefanh.960
    @stefanh.9602 жыл бұрын

    When you sit in a dark forest and suddenly the trees start chanting in German you don't want to remain there.

  • @Terlin1466

    @Terlin1466

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Der Traubengott yet they went back and destroyed everyone. Think about Norse history of the gods. ITs so similar to each other. But there is a disconnected. And this disconnect happens during the later Dark ages when Rome falls. The climate changes. IT gets colder. And when things clear up again The gods while still similar are now Different. Its curious why the climate changes. Its unsure why atm far as i know.

  • @northeastokwari1889

    @northeastokwari1889

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Terlin1466 What are you talking about? What climate change are you referring to

  • @edwardfranks5215
    @edwardfranks52152 жыл бұрын

    FYI from 80 AD to 260 Roman control extended eastward from the Rhine At Mainz up the Weser River and then SE to the Danube encompassing an area the size of the German State of Baden-Wurttemberg, 20 thousand square miles.

  • @KH-lo3mk
    @KH-lo3mk Жыл бұрын

    i have read a lot about the roman conquests in germania, this short film illustrates it in a wonderful way. good work

  • @Paramecium914
    @Paramecium9142 жыл бұрын

    Me: I wonder when this will go downhill for the Romans. “And then they are friends with Arminius.” Me: Yeh that’ll do it.

  • @cageybee7221

    @cageybee7221

    2 жыл бұрын

    it went downhill when Varus betrayed rome's allies by demanding exorbitant tributes. this is why arminius flipped to the german side, his people were being starved.

  • @headhunter1945

    @headhunter1945

    2 жыл бұрын

    Varus was previously stationed in the middle east, and became somewhat known for corruption and greed, as well as brutally putting down any hint of rebellion. The tribes were of warrior traditions and had a great deal of freedom before the Romans came along. Additionally, Germanic law relied on fines, while Romans were relatively quick to execute. Combine this knowledge and it's pretty easy to see how Varus might have brought this on himself.

  • @ksgermania6159

    @ksgermania6159

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cageybee7221 It was more then "Tributes". It was about "Home","Believe","Freedom". Arminius meant that Rome will change the culture of the Germans.Rome crucified the Germans,Slaved them ect. I know,people adore the Ancient-Rome. But peoples who have been overrun by Rome wasnt that happy. But indeed. Rome demanded more and more tribute. So, looking at all this,the Germans wasnt people who lived in the mud. They actually had Weapons,Knifes,Swords,Bows,Speers before coming in contact with Rome. Jewels,Cloth,Dishes,Tools ect. Arminius and the Germans who followed did all to preserve German culture and language. We still speak our tongue because of him. Isnt that amazing?

  • @ksgermania6159

    @ksgermania6159

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@headhunter1945 Word.

  • @cageybee7221

    @cageybee7221

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ksgermania6159 i've always found the "mud huts" narrative laughable, because the romans lost to them all the time, so if it were true what would that have made the romans?

  • @EthioMod
    @EthioMod2 жыл бұрын

    Watch "Barbarians" on Netflix for an epic series on this.

  • @larryzigler6812

    @larryzigler6812

    2 жыл бұрын

    No thanks

  • @jamestapioca1214

    @jamestapioca1214

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good one.

  • @jedz86

    @jedz86

    2 жыл бұрын

    Netflix will show u truth xD

  • @zanzikar7

    @zanzikar7

    2 жыл бұрын

    is barbarines good? I didnt think it looked to good to me. I may have to check it out now. I thought Britania was stupid though, sadly.

  • @larryzigler6812

    @larryzigler6812

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zanzikar7 It's good for toddlers.

  • @hashtag_thisguy
    @hashtag_thisguy Жыл бұрын

    Watched a 3 hour documentary once, apparently it's mainly because Maximus Decimus Meridius, general of the pheonix legions, commander of the armies in the North was betrayed and thus became a gladiator to avenge the murder of his wife and child and to set Rome free.

  • @sediagamerbad3986
    @sediagamerbad3986 Жыл бұрын

    plot twist: Italy is projecting robots and modern troops' guns, artillery, tanks, jets and ships to reform the Roman Empire, calling it "Roman Empire II"

  • @HistoriaenCeluloide
    @HistoriaenCeluloide2 жыл бұрын

    Because they considered it was an unproductive region and expensive to maintain 📜

  • @hillbilly904

    @hillbilly904

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exacly! If people think Rome could not conquer Germania they are simply clueless :D

  • @lamborghiniurus2660

    @lamborghiniurus2660

    2 жыл бұрын

    Alexander the great says " hi lol"

  • @uhbaoifuhoiafj456

    @uhbaoifuhoiafj456

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hillbilly904 ? They tried it over and over again. The problem was that the terrain is the worst for a organized army. In the south are big mountains and everywhere else were huge forests and swamps. This is just a pure Nightmare. They were so anxious about Germania that they build the limes(huge Wall) to defend themselfes.

  • @schris3

    @schris3

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's another factor

  • @uhbaoifuhoiafj456

    @uhbaoifuhoiafj456

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hillbilly904 Augustus tried to conquer it,Germanicus, Germanicus son Caligula, Marc Aurel did everything he could, Commudus tried it and in the end Rome gets destroyed by a german tribe with Odoacer (Flavius) as leader. They are just not the superpower every Rome nerd think they were.

  • @memazov6601
    @memazov66012 жыл бұрын

    This is Roman Empire in a Nutshell

  • @Ocularion
    @Ocularion5 ай бұрын

    Purple-red is such a nice colour.

  • @H0m0f1rST
    @H0m0f1rST Жыл бұрын

    And nowadays in that same forest, some banger small scale festivals take place around summer season.

  • @user-kf3dg3ud5m
    @user-kf3dg3ud5m2 жыл бұрын

    Generally, the Roman emperor Domitian conquered southwestern Germany, namely the ("Decumatian Fields") in 85 AD. And part of the Germans, namely the majority of the Hutt tribe, became Roman subjects!

  • @loneranger4734

    @loneranger4734

    2 жыл бұрын

    You became a Roman subject!

  • @user-kf3dg3ud5m

    @user-kf3dg3ud5m

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@loneranger4734 Better to be Roman than barbarian!

  • @Rondo2ooo

    @Rondo2ooo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-kf3dg3ud5m how anything above or on the east of the Roman empire weren't barbaric? So yes, your ancestors too. Chill about it, the Romans were far ahead compared with any other culture in Europe (excluding ancient Greece maybe from which the borrowed quite some).

  • @user-kf3dg3ud5m

    @user-kf3dg3ud5m

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Rondo2ooo In Eastern Europe, the Romans are admired, because thanks to them we can use the Western benefits of civilization. And without the Romans, the modern world would never have been!

  • @benjaminvanderneut6826

    @benjaminvanderneut6826

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-kf3dg3ud5m As I know Moskou and Kiev are founded by the vikings just like they came to the swamps of the Netherlands and many other places. Ukraine flag has even a tribe symbol from Rurik on it. So allready european roots and i agree without the romans things would be very different nowadays :)

  • @bangscutter
    @bangscutter2 жыл бұрын

    The empires and kingdoms changed over the course of history, but it's amazing that the conflict / rivalry between the Latin and Germanic people groups along the Rhine border spanned two millennia and has largely not changed, even until the modern times today between France and Germany.

  • @Tolstoy111

    @Tolstoy111

    2 жыл бұрын

    The French aren’t really Latin people are they? They are Gaulo-Celtic.

  • @shanehughes3511

    @shanehughes3511

    2 жыл бұрын

    The french are celtic, germanic and gaul. The french have more in common with the british and irish than with the spanish or italians. The southern provinces maybe not so much but certainly most of the north and central regions. Everything north of Leon for sure.

  • @wyihupoip8105

    @wyihupoip8105

    2 жыл бұрын

    France is not a latin country. The Gauls and Celts are a Germanic group. So on that basis, France is more Germanic than Latin, though Gaul was part of the Roman empire for centuries.

  • @wyihupoip8105

    @wyihupoip8105

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shanehughes3511 Absolutely!

  • @stefanobusti3553

    @stefanobusti3553

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wyihupoip8105 And of course the same goes for the Franks afterwards.

  • @Michael-gu8ck
    @Michael-gu8ck2 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation of thew Roman incursion deep into Germania PRIOR to 9 A.D. Poor, superficial description of the Battle of Teutoburg forest. For one thing, the weather, the heavy, protracted rains and large baggage trains spread out over 12 miles played an enormous role in the demoralization of the Roman Legions, among other things.

  • @dazediss6629
    @dazediss6629 Жыл бұрын

    We already know this, it’s because general maximus desimus meridius was captured, imprisoned & forced to fight as a gladiator in Rome.

  • @AudieHolland
    @AudieHolland2 жыл бұрын

    Arminius, riding together with Varus at the head of the Roman column: 'Hold on bro, I'll be back with more troops.'

  • @don_juant

    @don_juant

    2 жыл бұрын

    technically not a lie

  • @AudieHolland

    @AudieHolland

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@don_juant It was a promise

  • @Infiltator2

    @Infiltator2

    2 жыл бұрын

    its not quite accurate. Amrinius was in charge of around 100 troops that were hired by the roman that know the land and were looking out for enemies. which in itself was quite a good idea. they were ahead of the roman troops, if they die, nor roman died. They know the land and it tricks, so they really help them out. Just bad luck that the head of thoose guys couldn't see the rest of his people just dying because of the romans. Funny thing is also hat as his father was entering and accused him of betrayel he actually said its true. But everyone thought it a joke because he lived in rome for 20 years, learned the language, learned everything about the military and was good leader.

  • @AudieHolland

    @AudieHolland

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Infiltator2 It was a joke. You know a joke does not need to be 'quite accurate' or whatever you're claiming?

  • @Infiltator2

    @Infiltator2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AudieHolland i know, that wasn‘t related to your good joke. It was just additional information for you that i wanted to provide

  • @princeofdarkness8037
    @princeofdarkness80372 жыл бұрын

    I live in Bielefeld which is a German city situated along the Hermansweg which itself runs throughout the Teutoburg Forest. Bielefeld was originally North of the Forest but now has areas on both sides. Just down the road near Detmold we have 'Hermannsdenkmal` which is a 53.4 meter statue in honor of Arminius. I've visited this many times and also the Teutoburg Forest. I also competed in the Hermannslauf back in 1987 (a cross country run through forest/built up and road areas) from Hermannnsdenkmal to the Castle (Sparrenburg) in Bielefled. A total of 31.1 KM of pretty grueling terrain. I completed it in 2 hours and 39 minutes, which isn't too shabby considering I was on the lash until 3am the night before :P

  • @manibigbadam4069

    @manibigbadam4069

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are lying as an German I know that something like Bielefeld doesn’t exist.

  • @KillingStar401

    @KillingStar401

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@manibigbadam4069 So true

  • @ibimsnur4651

    @ibimsnur4651

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@manibigbadam4069 Very true.

  • @taurondur

    @taurondur

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@manibigbadam4069 Arminia exist?

  • @manibigbadam4069

    @manibigbadam4069

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mypfpisliterallyyou6126 don’t know if Prince of darkness told bullshit or not but in Germany there is an running gag that Bielefeld doesn’t exist.

  • @Ukepa
    @Ukepa Жыл бұрын

    good history and not unexpected that the empire would stretch too thin eventually

  • @muscledavis5434
    @muscledavis54345 ай бұрын

    The Rhine frontier is such a fascinating place

  • @Warmaker01
    @Warmaker012 жыл бұрын

    Also I want to add is that the great era of Roman warfare, expansion, and conquest was with the Republic due to stability. The Punic Wars saw the Romans defeated many times with huge loss of life by some dude named Hannibal. The Roman Republic persisted through the Punic Wars. Second Punic War was 17 years of heavy fighting and great losses, but Rome kept at it and won. It kicked off a period of expansion that would be the foundation of the eventual Empire. A major reason for this was internal stability of the Republic before the late era of Sulla, Marius, Caesar, etc. The Senate was fully functioning and command of large armies could be entrusted to men for foreign wars. By the time we get to the Imperial era, the Roman Emperors were not trusting enough of giving someone command of large field armies for fear of being usurped. Late Roman Republic and Imperial Roman Legions were fickle in their loyalties, not like the Republic Legions that conquered Carthage and the Mediterranean world. The only times in the Imperial era where we see great expansion was when the Empire was stable and the Emperor powerful enough in his control that armies can be sent abroad. Either that, or an Emperor so good with unquestioned authority and leadership, i.e. Trajan, to personally lead the army in conquests, and not worry about someone starting a rebellion back in Rome. These periods were few and far in between for the Empire and more energy was spent just to keep everything together and for maintaining the frontier defenses. Even then, those frontier defenses were the cause of instability for the Empire. I lost track how many times Legions in the frontier, especially in the Rhine defenses, where the soldiers felt like raising one of their own in rebellion to become the next Emperor.

  • @tychus8219

    @tychus8219

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats pretty interesting view on the topic. I gotta say i havent really tought about it, i always tought empires were more reliable and overall strong, but after seeing your point of view, i gotta say i am convinced that you are absolutely right. Indeed great empire is harder to persist, because backstabbing, plots and overthrows. Thank you!

  • @ollih.901

    @ollih.901

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tychus8219 A major misconception in relation to ancient history is the idea of a modern state in general. People tend to think anachronisticly and use modern concepts where they dont belong. For example you see the huge territory, but most people living there are not roman citizens (until some emperor gave general citizenship). The provinces were heavyly exploited over centuries to sustain wealth for a few romans. The proconsul was rarely ever interested in developing the province he was reigning over, but instead tried to get out of it as much as possible, which regularly evoked huge conflicts with the natives.

  • @dirkdriessen1133

    @dirkdriessen1133

    2 жыл бұрын

    Best comment. The empire system was ineffective and weak and used most of its energy in internal affairs. Also it favored nepotism over competance. "Germany was not worth the efford" is bullshit, since it always was a thread to roman boarders.

  • @fishingislife9554

    @fishingislife9554

    2 жыл бұрын

    “Some dude” lol, you are “some dude”, Hannibal was a legend

  • @demareorobinson5008

    @demareorobinson5008

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fishingislife9554 Facts.

  • @bowenc24
    @bowenc242 жыл бұрын

    I recommend the Eagles at War series by Ben Kane. The 3 books tell the story of the all the events, from the ambush to Germanicus’s campaign. I liked it because the author shows multiple points of views, from historical figures like Arminius and Varus, to made characters that show you the point of view of regular Legionnaires.

  • @scintillam_dei

    @scintillam_dei

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amo GERMANICVS. ¡GLORIA PARA EL SUR DE EVROPA!

  • @dagmarvandoren9364

    @dagmarvandoren9364

    Жыл бұрын

    Fur englisch sprecher. Dann ist es immer etwas "anders"

  • @blockie9706
    @blockie97062 жыл бұрын

    The great illyrian revolt played a major role in the inspiring arminius to revolt as well

  • @benweir665
    @benweir665 Жыл бұрын

    Sweet little summary

  • @tomhoni9642
    @tomhoni96422 жыл бұрын

    Overextension, aggressive expansion and not enough spare admin points to core it

  • @SdoubleA

    @SdoubleA

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes. A fellow HOI4 player.

  • @xaiano794
    @xaiano7942 жыл бұрын

    This is like those games where you have like 4 successful campaigns, do everything right and your top general just kills himself falling off his horse on the ride home.

  • @2dawgsmiked684
    @2dawgsmiked684 Жыл бұрын

    If you ever get the chance, visit the statue of Herman the German in New Ulm, MN.

  • @norbertschanne1943
    @norbertschanne19432 жыл бұрын

    You're missing the Roman province of Raetia (established under Augustus) to which most of Southern Germany (nowadays Baden-Wurttemberg and major Parts of Bavaria) belonged... as well as the province of Germania Superior on both sides of the upper Rhine valey... Three (Munich, Cologne, Frankfurt) of the five largest cities in Germany are located on territory ruled by Rome in 0 AD, with Cologne being one of the most prominent Roman settlements in Germany.

  • @germandestroyzeppelin4432
    @germandestroyzeppelin44322 жыл бұрын

    Top 10 anime betrayals

  • @stapleman007

    @stapleman007

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shield hero wants to have a word with you.

  • @YTuseraL2694
    @YTuseraL26942 жыл бұрын

    Actually, I think that giving up on conquering Germania (specifically west of Elbe) was, in hindsight at least, a colossal mistake and a great miscalculation on the part of the Romans. Germania wouldn't have contributed much in terms of lucrative goods, taxes and trade like eastern provinces did, but what it would've contributed was much more important in strategic terms and would definitely outweight the risks and costs - exceedingly shorter border to defend, bigger population poll for economy (taxing) and army (recruitment) to use, and a potential for defence in depth better than Gaul could ever offer it. And also, a good deal of the tribes that in later centuries formed confederations and made big incursions into the Roman territory would now be subjugated and part of Rome. As a consequence, not only much more legions could've been raised, but more of them could've been sent to guard the eastern provinces from Parthian and especially Sassanid Persia. But of course, even the most perfect, most inpenetrable border in the world is useless if even in a timeline like that there is not a social stability, people aren't treated well and the emperors are still assassinated on a daily basis and usurpers are a normal occurence.

  • @divifilius2357

    @divifilius2357

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m surprised to see in the comments that so many people believe that conquering Germania would have prevented the collapse almost 500 years later. You guys are failing to realize that using the Rhine as the massive obstacle that it was, like the alps and Danube, is probably the best reason why it lasted for another 500 years. Cause what makes Rome truly unique is how long it lasted. Conquering Germania likely would’ve caused the collapse sooner. History of empires has proven blind expansion is a monster that is never full. They thrived on cities so that tax and trade you say will help with resources will never be enough to sustain the kind of resources needed to seriously consider the endeavor ever again

  • @YTuseraL2694

    @YTuseraL2694

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@divifilius2357 wait dude, are you for real? Where did I claim (or give that impression) that conquering Germania had something to do with the fall of the west in the fifth century? Anyway, you are writing as if adding Germania to the empire would inevitably mean they'd never stop expanding, which is not really true. Elba offered almost the same protection as did the Rhine, but since it was positioned further east, most of the northern Danube would've been eclipsed into the territory and not directly exposed to the unconquered lands, which would equal much shorter border to defend and more population to be mobilised if needed. So THAT should've been the FINAL border. And I already said that all the borders of the world account to nothing if there is internal instability and mismanagement of the budget (overpaying the army and that sort of thing).

  • @asdfasdfasdf1218

    @asdfasdfasdf1218

    2 жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't fix the central problem of "everyone wants to be emperor."

  • @YTuseraL2694

    @YTuseraL2694

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@asdfasdfasdf1218 no, it probably wouldn't (although who knows). I never said it would though.

  • @lief3414

    @lief3414

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't call it a colossal mistake as they did quite well even without it. Moreover, conquering any territory bordering your own is usually pretty good, the problem is risking huge amount of resources (and potential political turmoil) in an empire with thousands of problems for what essentialy is an investment in the future. I would argue that if one could pick a conquest that would be most valuable for romans it would be Parthia. Although it would require massive campaign it is certainly possible. The difference is that once the initial investment was done, a lot would be repaid with loot and the land would immidiately start producing income. Nomadic tribes are also much less of a threat than a germanic uprising, making it relatively less expensive to govern. You can quite reliably compare Germania and Parthia to Britain and Egypt respectively, one being a nuisance far away and the other the golden goose. Conquering Parthia woul likely accelerate the schism of the empire, however for the time being it would make a noticable difference. It doesn't really matter since with the arrival of empire romans started looking out for competition and threat on the inside, rather than outside. Political instability, extreme riches and unrivaled might meant focusing on keeping the empire together was far more important than any further expansion. Romans could've probably conquered the world if they worked together, but in the end it would only bring the fall quicker while not changing much (for the romans that is).

  • @joelwilliamson3322
    @joelwilliamson3322 Жыл бұрын

    If it hadn’t gone this way, German could have become a Romance language like French. Crazy to think about.

  • @brettsmith641
    @brettsmith641 Жыл бұрын

    The Germans had honed their skills on the Celts and Scythians for a thousand years.

  • @SithStudy

    @SithStudy

    Жыл бұрын

    💯

  • @Merennulli
    @Merennulli2 жыл бұрын

    Whoever is running the simulation, let us know how the "what if Varus didn't trust Arminius" version played out.

  • @turinthalion8784
    @turinthalion87842 жыл бұрын

    Your map is incomplete, I see nothing in Britain. The Londinium settlement established by Julius Casaer. Its a minor change but I thought I'd give you the heads up. Great video btw! I always love that line when I studied Rome is school "Varus give me back my legions" lol. Poor Augustus. I always thought it foolish for them not to secure the Rhine with a river fleet and make a Naval base up where the De Biesbosch National Forrest is today. The Romans were very good at building canals and in time they would be able to reshape the Rhine and at least ensure control of at least a 100 mile radius north and east of the Rhine. Quicker resupply equals quicker actions.

  • @edwinj.matthews3607

    @edwinj.matthews3607

    Жыл бұрын

    The map shows the timeline of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD, at that time Britain was not yet conquered by the Romans. Julius Caesar did defeat the native tribes of Britian (circa 55-54 BC) but they accepted to become a client state of Rome, hence had semi-independence (the map only shows territory completely under the Roman Empire and vassal states were not included that is).The complete conquest of Britian was done during the reign of Claudius to Domitian (from 43 AD to 84 AD) under the military leadership of Gnaeus Julius Agricola. Hence all the maps of the Roman Empire from 43 AD onwards would depict Britian (northern border of the empire till the Hadrian and Antonine wall) as part of the Roman Empire. (The Romans pulled the legions from Britian in 410 AD, hence all the maps of the Roman Empire from the reign of Honorius would exclude Britian)

  • @michaelclarke3178
    @michaelclarke31782 жыл бұрын

    wow it was so intresting i watch it 3 times

  • @djzanis5220
    @djzanis52202 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t watched the video yet but the romans (and the byzantines for years to come) seemed way more interested in the east than the west. There was nothing of interest in those lands back then. I’m surprised they even went as far as England.

  • @TheCrazierz

    @TheCrazierz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bro, England had very interesting rocks I hear

  • @djzanis5220

    @djzanis5220

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheCrazierz lmao, in the east rocks had a gold coating

  • @Megarenegade666

    @Megarenegade666

    2 жыл бұрын

    Caesar's England campaign was more of a punishment campaign for helping Gaul. Avl Plautius' campaign was a campaign for gaining popularity for Claudius.

  • @JesterEric

    @JesterEric

    2 жыл бұрын

    They mined lead, silver, copper and tin in England. Some say lead poisoning brought down the empire as they used lead alot.

  • @Call_me_daddy6

    @Call_me_daddy6

    2 жыл бұрын

    London was a roman city back then. Londinium

  • @rimbas.3662
    @rimbas.36622 жыл бұрын

    Peter Heather wrote a book called 'The Fall of the Roman Empire: A New History of Rome and the Barbarian'. In chapter 2 of the book, it highlights that the main reason for Rome's refusal to conquer Germania Magna was due to economic and logistical reason. Germania at that time was relatively undeveloped with no major towns, settlements or roads unlike in Gaul. Moreover, the Rhine frontier was already practical for logistical purposes because Romans transport their supplies from the Mediterranean through the Moselle river and to the Rhine river. It's less to do with the defeat at Teutoburg forest which stopped the Romans, because the Romans suffered worse defeats in the past by Hannibal, yet continued fighting against him. Furthermore, the Romans continued the conquest of Dacia, despite Rome's defeat by the Dacians in the First Dacian War. To conclude, Rome did not pursue the conquest of Germania because of its just not worth it economically.

  • @konsumkind99

    @konsumkind99

    2 жыл бұрын

    you know... the beginning of this video talks about roman ambitions in germania to adress this argument. Also there are plenty of examples of other places the romans tried to conquer/conquered, which werent that developed e.g. scotland, northern balkan, arabian desert. its also a weak argument, because there is no real way of telling germanic and celtic tribes apart and you have great degrees of intermixing, especially in southern germany where you can find a lot of important oppida (Manching, Menosgada, ...). The argument of "not worth it" is already one, that caesar uses in his de bello gallico and we all know how questionable his statements are ;D

  • @arminiusdescendant8022

    @arminiusdescendant8022

    2 жыл бұрын

    Germania Magna was full of wood which was a most important ressource of the Roman civilisation instead of the Mediterranean which had been already deforested at that time due to the Roman hunger for wood. That would had been the economic worth of conquering Germania Magna.

  • @krisinsaigon

    @krisinsaigon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes indeed, the Rhine and the Danube make excellent natural borders The soil in Germania is more naturally fertile than in the roman world but at that time the thick forest cover meant it could not be exploited

  • @krisinsaigon

    @krisinsaigon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@konsumkind99 they could tell Celts and Germans apart. The start of that book is him explaining about the Germams being different from the Gauls in language and custom

  • @konsumkind99

    @konsumkind99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@krisinsaigon yeah, no. The root of name "germanic" is actually the name for an celtic tribe. But im talking about modern sience anyways. "According to Herbert Schutz, although the peoples to the east of the Rhine included Celts and mixed populations, as a political contrivance Caesar defined a population boundary along the Rhine ignoring cultural lines, invented a people and denominated all of them to the east as Germani, grouping them with the unrelated Cimbri and Teutones and giving their lands the name Germania, as opposed to Gallia". In fact its really hard to identify a typical germanic tribe, since they had no uniformal language, religion or tradition. So using the term 'germanic' is controversial, since it doesnt define a people group

  • @costajo8456
    @costajo8456 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting stuff

  • @kutayfunk
    @kutayfunk Жыл бұрын

    Because they saw that the weather was bad, cold, raining. There was always a thick grey cloud layer floating above that land. They understood that it is not a pleasant land to live.

  • @MrErdem95
    @MrErdem952 жыл бұрын

    Too much overextension.

  • @laurnborne3830

    @laurnborne3830

    2 жыл бұрын

    Should've made them vassals and placate them with that prestige

  • @divifilius2357

    @divifilius2357

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@laurnborne3830 They don't like to be ruled in any form not even symbolically. That's why they were so many tribes to begin with. They had tribes within tribes and so on. Plus Julius Caesar kind of made that impossible. He instilled a healthy amount of hatred in many of the germanic tribes when he crossed the Rhine just to burn down tribal settlements.

  • @hyltoniali257
    @hyltoniali2572 жыл бұрын

    1 more vid on why Dacia is deserted since Aurelius pls

  • @robertgray9802
    @robertgray98022 жыл бұрын

    Love these videos 😂 Rome just got too big too fast and couldn't sustain

  • @RyeGrog1
    @RyeGrog12 жыл бұрын

    History has shown that empires come and go. Even the Roman empire that lasted the longest eventually imploded. Even today you see borders change on countries and new one's form.

  • @vaultteam6
    @vaultteam62 жыл бұрын

    Rome: Germania meh. Also Rome: Conquering modern day England and Wales, is suitable.

  • @MalleusIudaeorum

    @MalleusIudaeorum

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Safwaan Absolutely false, where did you get that nonsensical information? Briton before it even became apart of the empire was one of the most important trade hubs and had some of the best metalworking in the known world and lots of important metals (such as tin and iron) and other materials. They were also known for breeding extremely good warhorses and the best war dogs which were sought after across the world and were another important part of trade for the isles.

  • @bryanperalta740

    @bryanperalta740

    2 жыл бұрын

    The British Island were rich in ore and bronze hence their was more incentive in subjugating it as compared to Germania

  • @unifiedhorizons2663

    @unifiedhorizons2663

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Safwaan well ENGLEND farmable land is only beaten by Germany 56 englend 54% france 49% poland 51% GERMANY ANNEXING POLAND IS Basically ANNEXING ANOTHER GERMANY Romans used England heavily in terms of food/tin

  • @unifiedhorizons2663

    @unifiedhorizons2663

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Safwaan German main weakest is Russia underdeveloped status, in many place Russia on global map has few sectors of lights being so dim in some spaces it’s non existent Germany would of beaten the Russians if Russia didn’t blow up all roads and rail roads Germans could get tigers to front to stop Russian armor break throughs allies where to far behind to do anything leaving all the heavy lifting on Germany look it up in fair battles Germany always won. like even Italians beat them without anti tank guns. Germans reach mascow there was barely any rails or roads left so Germans also running of oil

  • @unifiedhorizons2663

    @unifiedhorizons2663

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Safwaan meanwhile, its birth rates is worse out of the eastern nation slowly becoming new china

  • @mr.coffee6242
    @mr.coffee62422 жыл бұрын

    In Cologne, Germany. There is remnants of the Roman wall from that era. The city of Colonia (Cologne) was the furthest point of Roman expansion in Germania.

  • @acontecerdigital9411
    @acontecerdigital94112 жыл бұрын

    How can I make this map explanations?

  • @garyp4374
    @garyp43742 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed the video and thank you so much for not interrupting it with a sponsor ad that's really annoying. however I do miss the 60 year old fat man in period costume running across an empty field lol

  • @Just_A_Newbie
    @Just_A_Newbie2 жыл бұрын

    Short answer: goddamn trees

  • @stapleman007

    @stapleman007

    2 жыл бұрын

    and the goddamn swamps. You can cut a path though trees, building roads through swamps wasn't practical at this time. Wasn't enough population density, nor enough cities to bother connecting.