I just want to see an adult Rex Dual-Wielding Pyra and Mythra's swords like an absolute unit.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Just wait until he switches out the swords for the women themselves and becomes the Rex Dual-Wielding Chad Form

@famillesabot5719

Жыл бұрын

I would kill to see Giga chad rex family

@metallicsnake.

Жыл бұрын

Rex masters the three sword style Santōryū

@dededeletethis9940

Жыл бұрын

I imagine Rex fighting by having two swords on him at a time with the third Blade fighting on her own, and they toss the swords around to each other as the situation requires it

@jasonrdrhutchinson5347

Жыл бұрын

I want to see adult rex do three sword style it would be sick.

Definitely agree that sequel is the way to go. It would be fun learning about the early days of Aionios and the Founders, but I'm much more interested in seeing the future of our beloved characters than the past of a world that no longer exists.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I kinda think that the DLC story should have a different main cast but we could still learn about the others in passing through sidequests or maybe even NPC dialogue

@jakelawrence6618

Жыл бұрын

Who knows if the dlc sells well enough maybe monolith would be willing to do a prequel story dlc as well? You like a second season pass kind of thing

@jakelawrence6618

Жыл бұрын

I mean think about it if a game is doing well, might as well provide extra content. Plus this form of development could give monolith the chance to tell other story’s that normally wouldn’t make it into a mainline game. Of course I don’t want them to keep releasing story dlc after story dlc, since at that point it would basically become a requirement in order to understand what the hells going.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

The thing with that is it would be taking the focus off of the development of new Monolith projects meaning we'd have to wait even longer for an X remake. That said, it still is possible and it might already be in the works due to how the DLC timeline seems to have been messed up already (We're likely getting some update or DLC around the start of December for the Game Awards considering it was nominated (Ino was originally planned for early december but seems to have been pushed out early))

@MoldyMcdonut

Жыл бұрын

Id rather have both id pay for both but that probably wouldn't happen

I dont even care about the lore anymore. I just want Noah and Mio to see each other again. They promised🥺😭

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Actually can't wait for the epilogue cutscene to show Noah and Mio walking towards one another, bumping into each other and going their seperate ways after, just trolling the entire fan base

@bamboozled4912

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak You know... maybe Z was right. Maybe Ouroboros was the real villian in this story. At least they can be together in Aionios

I think a sequel story is more likely than a prequel one. Biggest thing being there isn't really much of anything to tell a prequel story about. Only possible idea we can come up with is the founders but we know nothing about them other than Rex and Shulk knew them. Compare that to how Torna was treated in 2, the aegis war was the event that effectively set 2s story into motion. It was consistently referenced or called to through it's story. And we're given constant talk in the ending about how they'll meet again and Noah hearing the flutes. I also think a sequel story would be the easiest one to explain and have the three iconic swords altogether as the artwork for the expansion depicts.

I need a sequel because I will be completely dead inside if Noah and Mio don’t reunite

@hitogi06

Жыл бұрын

They are still connected, since oroboros is a system that functions outside of origin. Their interlink might actually still work.

A sequel would hopefully give us more of the Taion/Eunie dynamic, therefore sequel is the only correct choice.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

That is absolutely the correct choice! I'd like to see a new cast of characters still but a few hints to their relationship would be fun

The dlc should be a nice culmination to the three worlds. It's funny after three games we still don't know what comes after the end game of each, maybe a little on 1 but nothing significant. The dlc can be a perfect fan fair culmination of all three worlds with a simple conflicted plot.

Something I have noticed about the DLC of XB1 and XB2: They are both set in the time that is the focus of their respective game's themes. XB1 is about grasping the future and the DLC "Future connected" takes place in the future of the game. XB2 is about the past and when to let go of it and it's DLC "Golden Country of Torna" takes place in the past of the game's story. Which would mean, that if this keeps up, then the XB3 DLC would take place during the "present" of the game's stroy, which at the end of it, would mean it would take place in the restored world aka a sequel.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Yea, your not wrong but I am slightly suspicous that this could just be a massive coincedence so far 😂

@renren47618

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, i think they never thought about it

@ZMusok

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak To be honest, I also don't really think that it would be deciding factor to determine what we will get. Just thought that it would be fun to share my impression.

@delireent.3960

Жыл бұрын

Actually, I like this Idea a lot!!!

Honestly, I want a Sequel. there really isn't anything a prequel could bring to the story (for me). I want Mio + Noah et al to find each other again!

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Noah and Mio coming together is a bit of a funny one...I like the symbolism of the ending of Xeno 3 and them coming back might ruin that but as long as it was just at the ending or not the main focus then I'd be fine

I'm hoping it's not a prequel. I feel like the world of Aionios unfortunately doesn't matter much and seeing how it began won't really add anything, especially with the themes of the world being stagnant and unchanging, seeing how the endless now started is just the now. Also unlike the previous two games, we don't really get much closure at the end of X3, just a sort of cliffhangery thing? I think leaving Aionios behind is the best move.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Yea pretty much agree. I do think Aionios and the future of it have great importance to the overall plot of this new Xenoblade Saga but yea, the past of it probably won't add much in my opinion either. Only context for what happened during the events of X3

If you look at it this way. Xenoblade 3's DLC could possibly be an interquel/midquel. Xenoblade 1's themes center around the future and changing the fate that presides over the protags. So the expansion is an epilogue, taking place 1 year after the main game. Xenoblade 2's themes center around confronting the past and how the past influences the event of the main game, therefore we get a prequel, taking place during the events before the main game. Xenoblade 3's themes are about the present, mostly about the endless now and the people of Aionios' desire to reject the pre-ordained position that has been set upon them.

I think it will be a sequel, the entirety of XC3, the founders included technically happens at midnight, but the picture of the three Swords is set at Dawn. Though I do hope, no matter sequel or prequel, that the opening is the same as the main game, just from Mio's side.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I've been thinking about the opening being from Mio's perspective and using the kid version in the art book. I actually really like your point tho that I never noticed, that the swords are at dawn which would be very symbolic of it being a new day and a new adventure

As I was playing through the game, I thought to myself a story about the founders would be really interesting, but after the ending...nah, I need to know where the series is going from here. Also, looks like I'm the only person who liked more Future Connected than the main game lmao

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Yea, I feel quite similarly. I have nothing against a story about the Founders but I need to know where the story is heading and I don't see how a story about them can do that so Sequel for me Also, your insane for having that opinion 😂

@Movel0

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak for me, FC streamlined or removed all of the mechanics from the main game I didn't like. Gem crafting, affinity charts, affinity coins, all mechanics that I never enjoyed. Sure, it might've felt a lot less fun for build purposes and sure, Xeno games have a lot of micromanagaging to do, but I don't think any of those systems were particularly good. Also the side quests went quality over quantity, which is easily my most hated thing about XC1.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I see I see, I get ya a bit more now. I still don't necessarily agree but I can understand where your coming from now

Coming back after a good long while to say I think we got the best out of both ideas. Extra stuff for Shulk and Rex, deepening them as characters and people, while also further delving into the history of Aionios; the reestablishment of the City, greater explanations of Origin's workings, etc.

I really want to see rex and his gang one more time

Old Rex??? YES YES YES. The giga chad.

After watching the latest Nintendo Direct, I can say I'm hype for the DLC story. And the fact that Rex wields Pyra's and Mythra's weapons is amazing imo.

I just don't see them making weirdly detailed info about the founders and then make a sequal. I don't mind either way

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

It really isn't detailed tho...we get very little info about the Founders (We know literally nothing about the two who had Shulk and Rex as Mentors) and this could all be explored through a sequel anyway. The details of the Founders really aren't important either because there would be no pay off at the end as they ultimately lose at the end. Admittedly, I do see a Prequel being more likely but I just don't think it will achieve anything for the main story

@fatyoahi8612

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak fair enough

@Nerwrax15

Жыл бұрын

Technically speaking, we could still meet the characters who would've become the founders originally in a sequel story without them being the focus per se.

Perhaps the DLC somehow expands the main story rather than being a prequel or a sequel story.

The thing is that in a sequel it's not like we won't hear about the founders. A couple of them could even be playable since they would of been revived along with everyone else in the ending. A sequel where the two worlds merge fully and the premise being confronting the Moebius by confronting the past trauma of the past lives of characters to make sure the full merge can happen without the same thing happening again. Heck, imagine if the world was set in a recreation of Pre-Apoclypse Morytha to represent this theme. What if Shulk starts getting flashbacks to Klaus like Noah did with N?

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Yea, there are lots of different ways of doing it without ruining everything

I think that my issue with a prequel is that XBC3 doesn’t really have any room for history. Everyone not from the City lives for 10 years, and everyone from the City is completely unaware of there heritage, as shown by the fact that the founders stories are contained in a novel, not a history book. Ainios is a broken dying corrupted world, I’d like to see the world Origin was supposed to create. Just my two cents.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I mean I agree but there is more official records for the Founders then just that book series (Stated on the 7th founder statue) but it does seem currently like they're history might have been re-written at some point

I wouldn't mind both. A prequel is the easiest one to figure out what could happen, but I want a sequel more. Also, that was hilarious ask to subscribe. Thank you for making me laugh today.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Yea, both would be great and it would be exciting to play through multiple different routes Your welcome 😂 I tried to add a lot more humour to this video to make it a bit more lighthearted (Especially on a topic people take too seriously) so yea haha

That dig on sword and shield was hilarious and cold lmao. Edit: 8:30 😂

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

A couple of years ago, I would have made a savage video on the game if I knew how to video edit at the time 😂

Disagree: The DLC story should be a prequel to the Wrothians from the hit game Xenoblade Chronicles X on the Nintendo WiiU.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

True.

I want the story expansion to be a sequel so bad. A prequel would be good, but i desperately want to see our party reunite, among other things.

I personally deel like the best way to do a dlc story (assuming that it only ends up being one single story, which you've pointed out may not be the case) might be to have it take place enitrely outside aionios. Where the very start of the game details the creation of Origin from the perspective of the Xenoblade 1 and 2 casts, but later transitions to the events following 3 due to the how little time passes outside aionios when aionios exists. Any stories related to the founders could still be told simultaneously as it's hinted towards that Shulk and Rex knew the founders, so that the fouders stories could still be told through Shulk and Rex getting some kind of memories of the events of aionios

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Yea, this is something I tried to hint at in the video but the "Mini-Movie" thing I talked about before could easily be added onto a sequel still so we could still get this lore and play a game afterwards as well

tbh id rather the dlc be a prequel, and have the sequel be in xenoblade 4 because i want the sequel to be a full game. i feel like having the sequel in the dlc makes the ending of the maing game feel less impactful and incomplete, but not sure if that would happen if xenoblade 3 is the end of the trilogy.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I have to disagree...the thing is to me, the story of them overcoming Origin IS the end of Xenoblade 3 and a side story sequel can shove the series into a different direction and build up for a new entry, AKA Xenoblade 4. I understand the concern and it is dependent on how they do the Sequel side story for the game but I don't think that it would justify a prequel giving us NO new information either

A sequel would coincide with 3's theme of moving on toward the future and not being stuck in the present moment. A prequel would contradict this theme, and would also I think being stuck in the past is arguably worse than being stuck in the present.

„Stories; as in plural- as in multiple“ Sounds kinda like Sonic Adventure 2 to me and I‘d be absolutely down for that

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Yea, I guess thats an accurate example 😂

I would love to hear your thoughts on what you want for the future for the xenoblade series after the DLC (I know that’ll be difficult since we know absolutely NOTHING about what it may entail but I’m still curious as to what your thoughts and desires would be)

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

There's a few... I'm quite a big fan of the idea that this mainstream Xenoblade Series will link into the X timeline at some point so I do want to see something at the end of the DLC hinting at that being where the future is heading (Primarily using the magical mystical tablet from Xenoblade X) Additionally, I'd like to see some calamity ending events go off in some different worlds which is what builds up into these future entries and other then that, I'd need to think about it more

I agree with your thoughts on a prequel, but I think a sequel would undermine 3's message of finality, not solidify it. Imo, the prequel vs sequel debate is a false dichotomy. I think the most fittiny expansion story would take place in tandem with with main story. I want to see a Moebius focused story with Consul A dealing with the black fog problem, exacerbated by the 6 Noahs breaking all the flame clocks. Maybe the fog king was part of a whole race. What if the annihilation events represent corrupted data in the save files of the original worlds, and A has been replacing it with data from the other world? That could be a good setup for how Mio and Noah meet each other in not just a sequel DLC, but a full blown sequel.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I disagree, Xenoblade 3's ending is anything but conclusive and so adding an actual end to the Klaus saga would maintain and solidify that message. Yes the overall theme of the ending of being uncertain will then be erased but the future of the series will move forwards with or without a sequel so its only a matter of time. As for a story that takes place during the main timeline, I would be interested in something like that but I also feel that that would be incredibly hard to pull of effectively. There would need to be a good balance of both and I just think it would be a pain for them to do and be even more likely to lead into massive plot holes. There is a way to do it admittedly but for now, I'm uncertain on the idea

I feel like it's going to take place in the same time as the base game xenoblade 1 has a leitmotif about the future with the monado seeing into the future, the "DLC" for it, future connected takes place in the future xenoblade 2 has many of it's important events done in the past, jin's realization about blades, amalthus nihilistic worldview, the destruction of torna and the split of mythra/pyra all are 500 years in the past, so the devs made the DLC take place 500 years before the base game starts xenoblade 3's world during the base game has no past or future, the only time death is permanent is if the one gets sent via homecoming (and even then I'm pretty sure noah is an exception), the only major event between keves and agnus is a perpetual war everyone must engage in, many of it's cities are just run-of-the-mill camps and are more military bases, growing old and making babies is unheard of for most of the characters (that's why snuff and spark is used in place of the usual swear words), the only exceptions are the lost numbers, pretty sure time is stopped during all of it too, it's a world in an endless now as much as I would love to see lanz and sena reunite after all of the base game, I'm pretty sure the dlc will take place in the same time as the base game

I much as I hoped for a sequel, the dlc did still have a lot of fan service and I can't think of a way that a sequel could finish the klaus saga

I just don't know what I want for the DLC story. Both prequel and epilogue feel like something I'd want XD

both would be a great idea, we get some lore about the world before xenoblade 3, and what lies in the future for xenobalde!

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Everyone stays happy and we get a bit of everything

Based video and opinion, I just want more of a sequel, also we need to have in mind the promotional art for the DLC, Shulk, Rex and Noah have to be in, and the only way I can imagine that is with a sequel

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I mean, I get how it could work in a prequel as well but yea, would just mean fishing the sword of the end out of the sea tho

@leonardomartinez6887

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak or just summon it again, but now that everyone is in their own universe, it means that the sword is again somewhere in Xenoblade 1 universe

Im tryna see Noah and Mio meet again through a dimensional portal of sorts and fall in love again

I would imagine the sequel story opening up like this: Taking place a couple of years after the ending, both Noah and Mio's party are tasked in investigating their respective halves of Origin's remains. Halfway into their descent, both parties get transported into the now abandoned and somehow still intact Aionios. In other words, it's basically an isekai.

8:40 Through it would be awesome to have both I think he refers to the dlc hero side quests perhaps including the dlc story scenario when he say stories

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I really REALLY hope your wrong because I wouldn't call Ino's Quest line a "STORY"

I would be fine with either a sequel or a prequel. I've seen enough examples in my lifetime of both sequels and prequels either enhancing or diminishing the of the original story. It all depends on the quality of writing, and I generally trust Monolith Soft to tell a good story. What I really want are some answers. Past chapter 5 of XC3 the story becomes very convoluted especially in regards to Origin, Z/Moebius, Ouroboros, and the colliding worlds. Basically all of the catalysts for the story have very little explanation for how any of it came to be. And IMHO it makes the ending feel as though it's in a rush to wrap everything up and missing a lot of context.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I agree but I can't really tell if I exactly think it was rushed...It's hard to explain but either, I think the budget for Xenoblade 3 was too low which let it down towards the end of the game or it was written that way on purpose to lead into a follow up story which would complete it

@facepwnagewtf

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak In this particular case i would tend to go with the latter option. Monlith are usually very thorough in how they explain their stories. 3 however feels like they were intentionally leaving out details, most likely to be explored in the last expansion.

Whatever they do for the side-story, I hope it’s as good as Torna and not as half-baked (gameplay wise) as Future Connected. Those are my only expectations.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

It was stated it was going to be similar to Torna but will have to wait and see. Got to remember also that Future Connected was NOT a DLC story and was released at launch with DE

The more I think about it the more I'd like this story to be a prequel but with the Consul's as the main characters & having the returning cast of XB1, XB2 & the founders being the antagonists. Plus the "what lies in the future for Xenoblade" could just be refering to a gimmic of the Side story's combat system that would get flushed out in a future title. Similar to FC showing the multitude of characters fighting with the party. And considering we do know nothing of the original Consuls C, D, I, J, M, N & S (also Consul A just not being anywhere) I feel like the Torna comparison wouldn't be far off. Finally the Xenoblade's side stories has focused on flushing out some of the villains of their original story: Jin with Torna & Tyrea with FC.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Whilst I respect your opinion, I also humbly massively disagree. The idea of playing from the villains perspective is intriguing enough and would actually be pretty neat but the Future of Xenoblade being a mere gimmick would have me genuinely loose my shit...I don't think I could ever be angrier at how poor the wording was handled. Each game tries to be different tho so I don't think this will happen tbh

@pikagammerpluspizza7478

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak *Fair* since 'gimmick' was a very bad way for me to phase what I meant. So as an attempt to better explain myself. The Consuls each poses some form of unique ability that sounds pretty busted/broken on paper, but becomes an intrinsic part of gameplay. Think Shulk's Future Vision from XB1, future vision sound's super broken, but context matters. So what if, in this Consul lead story idea, each of the playable characters has a unique ability that directly effects how the game is played. So for example Consul A (for Alvis?) would just have Shulk's future vision, but if you swap to a ("Younger") Consul Z your party gains Torna's health recovery system. Which would allow Monolith Soft to demo a sort of 'specific power' system, that would be better honed & expanded in a future Xenoblade 4. Hopefully that better explained what I was thinking as a 'gimmick'. Oh and no, I don't want Consul A to actually be XB1's Alvis. I just thought that it would be ironic that since Shulk had a hand in making half of Origin, that he would name one of the AIs Alvis. Then when that Alvis becomes a Consul & turn on his creator, just like the original Alvis did with his master Zanza. "You know cause it's like Poetry, it rhymes." Also Blake Ritson's muck'in killed it on Krypton by basically just doing an Evil Alvis... at least for the parts where the audio mixers didn't destroy his voice. Oh and just because I forgot to mention it in the original comment, but I do also really want Monolith soft to just do a second wave of DLC for XB3, basically (eventually) doing a prequel and sequel. and maybe even tying them together.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

So as for the extra wave of DLC, we might already be getting something similar. Xenoblade 2 had tons of free content and updates and Xenoblade 3 has had none so far...why? Because of the game awards! It's only a theory at the minute but I think Monolith knew Xenoblade 3 would be nominated months ago and therefore, they moved Ino up in the schedule (Her update was lacking a lot of content we were promised) and now they're gonna release a big free update early december and promote it through the game awards As for the Gimmick side of things, I still would not be a fan and it doesn't really make sense either...I use to study games design and if they want to "Test" a mechanic or system like that, then they would simply test it internally. Risking and entire DLC story that people have paid for just to test a mechanic is a really, REALLY bad descision whichever way you look at it

@pikagammerpluspizza7478

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak Oh I didn't know XB3 got into the game awards, hope they win. But back (for the final time) on the "Test" thing. I obviously think they would test a gameplay mechanic internally, what would probably be a better term is introducing audiences to the mechanic. There's a gameplay term that escapes me at the moment, but its basically when a company wants possible buyers to test out a vertical slice of a game that is usually free to play. The term escapes me, but basically I think the GAMEPLAY of XB3's DLC story will introduce SOME of the things for a XB4. Like how Torna introduced Camps. But the STORY of XB3's DLC will focus on tying in &/or enhancing the Base Game's story. Like how Future Connected showed Melia taking steps to become queen. Hopefully that better explained myself.

I want a sequel because the ending felt like a cliffhanger, with everyone saying they'll see each other again. I also want to see more of their worlds in the future without endless wars run by demons. Side note, I wish the extra story for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was a sequel instead of a prequel. Having a sequel would've explained how Nia became a queen and showed what Alrest looked like in the future. The prequel didn't tell me anything new. It just gave even more buildup to the main story elements like Malos.

Hey JB, Xenoblade 3 made to the second round of the people voice category in the awards, but it needs more votes to be able to go the the final round :/, let´s call the fanbase to vote!

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

One step ahead of you, already got a community post scheduled for tomorrow on that very subject

@joebilly3719

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak niceeeee!!

Prequel or sequel, I will be happy and enjoy it either way. Unless Monolith totally flops in the dlc, which I doubt they will.

100% agree

I don't think a prequel works, for the same reason the Torna DLC DID work: To learn more about characters we care about... Several of the big players in XC2 lived during the war 500 years ago, and we know their relationships were very different from what we see, so even though we know exactly where they end up during XC2s story, we care about how it got to that point. But we don't really know or care about any of the characters beside M, N and Nia from that time of the first Ouroboros, as we would have completely different versions of Mio, Noah and the others... A sequel however could explain why it seems like we have two seperate versions of Mio and Noah by the end, since Mio narrates that she no longer remembers how Noah looks, saying that it's okay, and hinting that their XC3 versions still exist in the new seperate worlds, possibly allowed to live their final life out, alongside the original versions from before and after the events of 3. I mean, kid Noah recognized the flute music in the after credit scene too... Maybe the game is gonna let Noah and the gang regain their memories of their adventures, and the task is gonna be to stop an evil force from remaking the Mobious world again, while also maybe find a way to let the two worlds interact, without compromising their individual realities. I think Melias and Nias musings about them finding a way for their two worlds to walk hand in hand again someday is a clear sign that it's this "new way" of existing together that will be the focus

A prequel, in which one of the storylines is discovering that Tora left a feature in Origin that allows people to open a portal between the two worlds. The final cutscene jumps to the future and shows us this being used, the party reunites, everybody's happy.

Ok but if we get a sequel, how they can explain where are Shulk and Rex in Aionios?

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Easy, we know/can assume that they are the mentors to the founders and so, if the prequel is set shortly after the end of XC3, then we can just speak to them ourselves and learn about what happened or alternatively, Melia and Nia can just tell us

@nicovoth7243

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak I doubt Rex and Shulk would know about what happened in Aionios to them like anyone else. Melly and Nia are the only ones who would seem to remember probably and that isn't even fully confirmed. And if it's these two who are supposed to tell us, then why didn't they already when we were in Aionios still in the main game?

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Admittedly, Rex and Shulk may not get their memories back but it is still possible. Origin (in theory) was recording the data of everyone in it during Aionios so either it could restore their memories OR those that are recorded in Origin and were not killed via a blade (Dying of old age, e.t.c.) might retain their memories but admittedly, this is all speculation. As for why Melia and Nia didn't tell us before, well Nia has 15tp and Melia was a bit busy at the time....in all seriousness, it wouldn't have been important anyway. It would have done the party no good at the time to learn about the Founders and who they were so there would have been no point to unveil this information

I do NOT like the idea of a prequel, we have no attachment to any of the characters that would be in that story and we know how that story ends...This is not like Torna, where the reason we were engrossed was the characters themselves as alas we knew how that story ended too (for the most part). A sequel would let us explore the world as it was meant to be with the characters we love.

I just want to see my boy Shulk 🥲

Both would be best

Maybe the "stories" will be a dual narrative - one taking place following Noah and his gang, and one following Mio and her squad.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I'd be down. Multiple perspectives is something I've wanted for a while from Xenoblade so playing both of their sides and seeing the coming together at the end could be neat

I think the future being uncertain is part of the story the game is trying to tell. I really don't think we will see past the ending for now. Also if we move on from Aionios we will never find out about the Founders or what happened before Nia went to sleep, the old city, Noahs son and descendents. A prequel makes way more sense for me personally.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I think a prequel is more likely but there are plenty of ways to see what happened in the early days through Characters reminiscing about the events and most of the Lore can easily be given in passing. I do also stand by the fact that as you siad, the future being uncertain is one of the main points of the game but we already get the outcome to that which is that it worked (Ending after credits scene) so I don't think that really works. Ultimately however, Takahashi said that any fan who had played all 3 of the games will know where the future of the series is heading and that can't be done via a sequel

The main issue with a sequel is that it sounds like a Marvel movie by concept They will rush the character reunion so the time for the DLC doesn't get wasted in a build up, then they will shove down your face Shulk, Rex and XC1/2 fanservice and the villain will probably be fog beasts or Consul A, something happens and boom everyone is here to fight against Consul A! Then the story ends with everyone happy, fin. The Prequel is lamer but way more safe than forcing the fanservice and rush things out, i also feel like whatever happened afther the post credits will be show as the post credits of the Prequel DLC, they also hint a lot of info about the Founders in the City in the post game if you walk through there

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I get where your coming from but that won't necessarily happen, mainly because Monolith soft are pretty good at writing. They'll likely leave the Noah/Mio reunion for side content or just reference it in the game whilst setting up a new antagonist or enemy type for the future of the series. That might be something like you said but if they build on it, then there's nothing wrong with that imo. I get your concerns but I think their misplaced personally As for the founders, there really isn't as much info as you think. Try putting it all together and you'll start to see the massive gaps and inconsistencies that exist there...this is the reason I haven't made a "Explaining The Founders" video yet as you constantly run into dead ends, plot holes and have a lack of information

Personnally I want a prequel, prequels to be exact (and go along the plural "stories") : First you can see the meeting of Shulk's and Rex's teams in Aionios just after the "booting" of Origin, and the emergence of Z and the Moebius which kick their arse. Then the begin of the war between the survivors and the Moebius, which kick their arse (again) and captured Melia to control Origin. That leads to the elaboration of a century long plan to beat Moebius, which will kick their arse for the last time, with the establishment of the city and first generation of Founder and/or Ouroboros, with previous version of Mio and Noah (and thus the message of the story is to believe in the future and future generations, and not just redo the same thing again like the Endless Now or a Déjà-vu). Yes I mainly want to see the previous games' cast getting rekt for drama. Oh and for the explanation of how all lived so long inside Aionios, well the Queens didn't age neither (they look older, and Shulck and Rex's statues too because they aged before the creation of Origin) and while their biology and Nia's sleeping pod could be the answer, the fact that they aren't "Aionians" is a possibility too. And then we got a sequel with Xenoblade 4, with the serie new direction to be about the re-emerge of the worlds (but this time correctly) with multivers/timetravel shenanigans with the X remake.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I like how hopeful you are but I don't see us getting multiple stories all for the beginning of Aionios. Again, it would add nothing to the main story and simply be a retelling of the events of Xenoblade 3 but with no pay off because as you say, they are gonna lose again and again and again and never overcoming that hurdle doesn't sound like a great game to me I also think people are putting to much faith in Xenoblade 4 which may or may not be a thing...we have no idea where the series is heading currently and so we might not even get a Xenoblade 4

@evanpereira3555

Жыл бұрын

​@@JBspherefreak I don’t see how there wouldn’t be any pay off ? Unless you think Torna doesn't have one either (since it's the same thing, we already know they lose, beat Malos yes but ultimately lose). Anyway, yes I'm very hopeful, maybe too much for my own (fan) good.

So I’ve seeing people saying that all the xc2 team will return in a sequel story but do you think the xc1 party members will return in a SQL story

With the dlc story I don't mind if it is a follow up to xenoblade chronicles 3 but I want to play as new characters and not have the same party as in the main game.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, that would be my preffered take as well. Throwback to the characters sure but there story is complete in my mind

Technically a prequel within Aionios cannot be since time is stopped. Aionios is the embodyment of present. Xenoblade 1's characters are obssesed with the future, they want to siege over it- additional story ended up as a sequel. Xenoblade 2's characters are obssesed with the past, never growing out of it's shadow - additional story ended up as a prequel. Xenoblade 3's main focus has the characters be obssesed with the here and now, the present - additional story surely will take place in the present, a midquel. But I still think it will be the founders, why? Because the idea of Aionios is that it's always the present, the same places, the same ppl, the same war. The only ppl that live outside of it are the City ppl obviously, but what gets me is how that would fit in as the setting for the final additional story in the trilogy while also expanding on the "past" of Aionios. Now we all know at this point house Vandham is the decandant of N and M, on top of that he is from design straight up just a Fei reference. So here is a Xenogears spoiler but: It's the beginning of the DLC, peaceful day, you chill at your homie whose last name is Uzuki probably. N, your father who also looped thousands of deaths with his wife, He attacks your home town, the original city, and kills everyone within it, You fight him and best him through the power of material arts. I dunno this IS literally just a Xenogears reference that I need to see because all the ingridients are there. What we could also see from a midquel like this is other loops of the original cast. Maybe a different take on Lanz as a character that adds to the him we see in XC3 and he joins you as a hero. Also please make some of these Moebius ppk actual good characters whose names aren't Moebius S, I, T, J, D and N. Looking at you fucking Moebius C. Also a correction here in the vid. The Founders were the first Ouroboros of the new City not the first Ouroboros entirely since we see Noah and gang become Ouroboros multiple times when fighting Z when the original city was still around. They are just the first Ouroboros of the second City.

@RudiMyDear

Жыл бұрын

My savage eradication of you is gone; Your fun, you should get going places!

@renren47618

Жыл бұрын

This seems like way more possible than a sequel and knowing Takashi's fetish on referencing Gears this is definitively the possibility Probably the DLC will be what you said but the post credits will show post XC3 Noah's reunion with Mio and the rest of the party Also, an argument that i saw is that "Noah's sword in the cover" well, N's Lucky Seven is purple because of his Moebius corruption, this doesn't change the fact that it's possible for Noah's red lucky Seven to also exist alongside N's or the DLC even show how the Lucky Seven was forged

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Except for the fact that Takahashi said in an interview around the release of Torna that he was getting bored of reusing his old work and wanted to do something new... Xenoblade 3 is effectively Xenogears disk two or episode 5 of perfect works and so starting episode 6 with this side story would make a lot more sense

I just want to see Rex be a dad

I'm just confused as to who the villain of a sequel would be... With a prequel we would definitely get N, Z, and maybe even the missing Consul A.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I mean...it could be anyone. That's kinda the point, it would be an opportunity to take the series in a completely new direction. Have a brand new antagonist who causes the downfall of different universes which is then the focus for the next games added. I wasn't lying when I said "The potential here is limitless"

@nishquikpops

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak yeah I see that as a potential set up for Xenoblade 4 if done right

5:20 you said prequel in both parts of the analogy, had to rewind to understand which way you were arguing

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

That's actually a mistake that I didn't spot, the first one is supposed to be Sequel...

@renren47618

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak Riku is just a nopon which his Masterpon helped to forge the Lucky Seven and maybe his Masterpon could even be one of the past games nopon explaining why Melia knows him That's all

Same bro

I would find it rather appropriate that a XC3 DLC story would be both a sequel and a prequel given XC3's overall presentation with take aspects of both XC1 and XC2 lol.

Takahashi saying "stories" isn't referring solely to the final wave of the expansion pass, it means the pass as a whole, so in other words, Ino's story, thr story of the next Blade coming, and then finally the new major expansion story.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I mean...I wouldn't descibe Ino's questline as a "Story" tbh. It implies multiple big side stories imo but it still could just be how it was worded and mean nothing

@ArceusDX

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak A story is a story, no matter how big or small

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

@@ArceusDX A story has a Beginning, middle and end and I don't think Ino's has any of them...ok maybe a beginning

I want two things for the DLC: A story about the Founders; A sequel continuing directly from the game's end.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

So basically both a prequel and sequel 😂 have to agree tho, context into both would be ideal

The idea of a sequel to me is completely ignoring what the ending was going for

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. I agree that playing a follow up story about Noah and the gang attempting to reunite does go against everything entirely and I wouldn't want that for a sequel at all but there are other kinds of sequels we could get that don't contradict its message. At MOST, I would only want references to the original party or for them to maybe meet once more right at the end but less then that would be ideal

@markercrayon457

Жыл бұрын

But I’d also argue that a prequel would ignore a large theme of not dwelling on the past and instead living in the present.

@Luma_64

Жыл бұрын

@@markercrayon457 either way you look at it, something like re turning to the post game can feel like a contradict to the themes. But point being the ending was about having hope for the future, but we wouldn’t know what’s in store for the future. “Would we turn out the same person as we are now”, “I wonder if we’ll even be a close as we once were now”, only time can tell us. Xenoblade 3 itself was a criticism on sequalization and being shackled to the perfect works story and the ending is symbolic of letting go of those 25 year olds shackles and not knowing where the series is specifically headed, just like the main party at the end of the game freeing themselves from moebius. Simply put, while both are a contradiction, a prequal would provide more thematic density and possibly re contextualize many events and characters in the main game. A prequal wouldn’t hurt the themes as much as a sequel would.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I disagree with the last statement LUMA but "dats your opinion" and I respect that

@luke3810

Жыл бұрын

I 100% agree a sequel in this case would really just feel like a Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy X-2 situation

This will be a Epilogue Story

I need it to be a sequel because I will die inside if Mio and Noah never reunite

I really hope its a sequel, but if its a prequel i will play it anyway :)

I'd like a sequel but a prequel is waaaaay more likely for the simple reset of being able to reuse a lot of assets

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

That I will agree with! Regardless of how much I would rather and prefer a sequel, I do see a prequel being a lot more likely overall

To me, a prequel would be kind of disappointing. It would necessarily be a forgone conclusion of the player characters losing, and I don't know enough about them beforehand to be invested in their story despite that. Torna is like the story of my parents, whereas a 3 prequel would be like a story of the real life founding fathers. Both are necessary to mine happening, but I have almost no personal stake in hearing the latter compared to the former. Compare that to a sequel, which, due to how Xenoblade 3 ends, would essentially be a prequel in terms of how it can expand the lore, but would also have potential to show the aftermath of the base game "my story". Do people remember anything that happened inside of Aionios? Do any of the powers granted by Origin carry over to the recreated worlds? What will happen to Origin now that it's fulfilled its purpose? How have my favorite worlds and characters changed since I last saw them, and how will they continue to change going forward? Alvis saw all life walk towards the future hand in hand, and now could be when we get to see it for ourselves.

@robhillen8007

Жыл бұрын

Keeping this in the reply to avoid cringe on the original. As for what I want the story to be about, here's a premise I came up with. It'd start out being told from Mio's perspective, maybe even mirroring Noah's prologue. She starts out as a kid vaguely remembering Aionios and her love for Noah, and spends years of her life finding a way to cross over to his world to meet him. By the time she finally finds a means that could work, she's the age of her base game self, and activating her means somehow causes the main threat to appear. I'm thinking it be that she creates a rift leading to Aionios, a subspace connected to both worlds that was recreated alongside the other two, but also houses many fog kings based on the memories that were left behind by Origin. Destroy the Fog Kings to return the memories to their people, and hopefully find a way to keep the rifts open and live with the freedom to choose. (The rifts lead from Aionois to Alrest and Alvis, with the freedom to choose which world you live in and who you live in it with) (Alvis is what I'm dubbing the new world that Shulk created at the end of Xenoblade 1) "I don't want an endless now, I just don't want the now to be forgotten when we walk towards the future" -quote I came up with to insert at a climactic moment

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Yea there are many questions that I also want answered, hence a sequel. Completely agree on the Mio part as well, this has been my head cannon for a while.

Calling it now, this DLC will take place in the future of Xenoblade Chronicles X

I feel like not enough people are considering the possibility of the DLC story simply taking place at some point during the events of the main story. That’s the way most games handle their DLC expansions

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

But what exactly would the story be? It's not like they could be in Aionios cos that place is tiny due to Annihilation Events so we'd likely run into one another or it therefore takes place somewhere else entirely

@darielrodriguez3841

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak Well, there’s actually pretty quite a few parts of the world we only get to see in cutscenes. So I think it’s pretty safe to assume that what we do explore in the game isn’t all there is to Aionios.

Monolith : gonna make it two stories , Keves side sequel Agnus side prequel ... My hope next Xenoblade we can ride Siren robot like ... And start pew pew pew here and there

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I think that is more of a next game sort of mechanic but yea, I wanna have access to mechs again

@Sleiyphnus

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak yeah is really fun and killing titan size monster and adding multiplayer for raid ...

The predictabilty of a prequel isn't always a problem. The concept of tragedy is built on knowing the end is bad. I just hope they wont messed the reuniet of the party if there is a sequel.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Your not wrong and knowing so little isn't necerssarily a bad thing but I always come back to the fact that it still can't really add anything to the overall plot line. I do agree tho that I hope they don't mess up the reunion. It shouldn't be a major plot line at all imo

Be honest, you just want to see gigachad Rex.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I mean.... I don't mind seeing Chad Rex but I don't mind if we don't. I think the best solution could be him being present but more as a side character

I think people are also missing the last alternate possibility, an alternate game route. Basically alternate possibility and defeating Moebius A and have a different ending, plus there is still that land mass that can be seen in the cloud keep that is always covered by cloud, maybe add that too. It expands on the founders and the future. Torna is about the past. FC is about the future 3 DLC is about the present.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I'ma be honest...I think this is the worst possible option we could get. Either the entire story would be completely irrelevant because it isn't the true ending OR it would make the rest of the main game even more pointless. The only way this could remotely work is if Xenoblade wanted to open up its own Multiverse which just seems like a very bad and confusing choice for right now. Personally, I wouldn't be a fan of this choice

I’ll watch this when I can be bothered

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Never then I guess 🙄

Takahashi already said that the wave 4 story will be similar in size to Torna, so introducing any new characters is out of the question imo. This is the main issue I have with a founder's prologue. Torna has a runtime of around 20 hours with just under 3 hours of cutscenes. I don't feel like that's enough time to develop 6 new party members, and have them share the spotlight with potential legacy characters. It may work as a 40 to 50 hour experience but 20 is too slim I feel. I'd rather see current plotlines/worldbuilding questions answered than to have anymore new main characters and questions introduced, especially since this is most likely the last piece of content in this continuity. There's also the expansion pass cover art which shows nothing founder/city related and instead mirrors the xb1 cover art. I wonder what this could be implying...

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I mean...Torna did have new characters like Lora and Hugo and Minoth and even Milton. Heck even (through technicality) Brighid and Aegeaon were different characters through being different people with different memories. Even if that was the case tho, 20 hours is more then enough to introduce and grow some characters. Can they do it to the same extent as the main game? Of course not but this is only a side story so I wouldn't expect them to do so. There's enough time to make interesting characters and have an interesting story even with it being limited in size. It's not a new game, it's DLC. I mean at the end of the day I also want a Sequel but just for much different reasons

I aboslutely agree, I don't want another prequel. As much as I loved Torna, prequels don't carry the same tension as the unknown outcome. Tbh I prefer to learn about the founders through in-game additions, rather than play their story. Plus, I feel that the end of the game begs for a sequel and I doubt they'd just make another Xenoblade game sequel to this trilogy.

Sequel has nothing to tell, Prequel has to make sense of the nonsensical status quo of 3 after 1 and 2. Sequel ultimately wouldn't make the game better, while also having high chances of being shit because, I mean they fucking conjured an all powerful enemy from litterally nowhere just for 3, and they lost to arguably the weakest party up to date, how are they ever going to have tension, while 1 and 2's party are here on top of 3's ?? Realistically, they can't make a new map that would accurately represent a whole new world, even less 2. It makes no sense for it not to be about 3, and it make no sense for it to be in a distant future to start a new storyline for future game, as the whole point of a sequel would be to see both world reunite. Prequel could make the game better, it's also very realistically feasible, as Aionios could simply be modified to fit the timeframe. It would also make the lore and worldbuilding of 3 that much less shit. It wouldn't go against the theme of moving on that the game bashes in your head near the end, possibly give X and Y a reason to exist, and answer who A is. Pretty confident that whatever you would prefer, prequel is on the way.

I think a prequel over a sequel could actually conflict more with the core message. I mean why are we getting scared of the future after Xenoblade 3’s ending again?

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Yea thats what I was saying. There's defo two ways to look at it and none of them are right or wrong but it's kinda Moebius to want to keep things as they are by doing a prequel instead of risking that step into the future with a sequel

The best possible outcome is a sequel disguised as a prequel.

A prequel would go against the point of xenoblade 3 story of moving forward

1:46 wait isn't the metacritic score of xenoblade 2 is 83 not 80?!

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Shusshhh, the joke didn't work that way round so I had to flip it shush

I really feel that they should just leave Aionos and move on with the actual plot. In my interpretation of XB3, Aionos is a fake world. Being fake, adding more and more elements to it, instead of making things clear, will just make it even more incoherent, leading to the generic solution that Aionos is actually a purgatory, thus, things are supposed to make sense

Sequels are puppies, prequels are plants. Got it.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Pretty Much 😂

I would really want a sequel more. I feel like a prequel would only provide more context on the founders and Aionios. I'd like to see the story focus on the founders, implying that the story will be a prequel. However, the twist is that the story actually takes place after Xenoblade 3's ending, and focuses on the truly united world. There would be some plot holes, but I think it could happen. But my biggest theory is that this will connect with and lead into Xenoblade X. And then, I think that when X does get brought back, it will be renamed Xenoblade 4.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I mean I'm not sure about the whole renaming Xenoblade X stuff but yea, I agree with the rest of it and there are ways of easily doing it

@meekmeek93

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak it’s definitely a very different approach, but I feel like with Monolith anything can happen. Above all I can’t wait to see where the series will head. Honestly I just want X to make a return. It really needs to be revisited

I just wanna play more Xenoblade tbh

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

True, you get it

Sorry my man… seems you never pay attention to any of the Xenoblade Games stories. Clearly the prequel was explain and shown. We see the story of the founders like literally see it and hear of it so much how everything went. We know what went wrong there was people that was afraid of the change and that feeling turn into the entity and make that shift of the two sides. The two sides are the two previous games. A simple way. Xenoblade one . The explains scientis divided the world and that how the 1 world was created. Xenoblade 2 show you the other world story which to free both world they need to kill the scientists simultaneously which they did. Xenoblade three both world we’re merging into one. But as said at the end of 2 this will not save the world since it was divided cus in xenoblade due to being on the brink of destruction. So people was scare and wish for no change that make the entity of both world’s people feelings and created ouroboros cicle. Xenoblade 3 ended by re-separating the worlds again in order to save them. Sequel could be anything since the possibilities are endless and they do can add a side stories of heroes of 3 meeting again

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? Firstly, I have spent thousands of hours in each Xenoblade game and have gone crazy in depth into the story of Xenoblade 3 specifically. The Founders were undoubtedly teased and brought up as a plot point in Xenoblade 3 but was a "Prequel explained and shown"? Absolutely NOT! I don't know where your getting your info from (This is such a "Source? I made it the fuck up" moment) cos we get barebones information. We literally know that House Reid and House Cassinni Founders are female...and that is it. Tbh, other then the Hopes Rest lore dump in Chapter 6, the Founders are only brought up in Chapter 5 and are then never mentioned again. Secondly, I have never seen a more poorly explained version of the Xenoblade 1 and Xenoblade 2 games in my life. I mean technically, your not wrong but you still are as there is so much more to what you put with the fact that Klaus and Zanza didn't need to be killed at the same time as its more accurate to say that Zanza is what was keeping Klaus alive in the first place and his defeat meant the end of Klaus. Additionally, the Xenoblade 2 cast LITERALLY never attacked/tried to kill or harm Klaus in anyway so no they didn't kill him (Your High). Thirdly, I really can't be arsed to try and comprehend any more of this nonsense so do me a favour and replay ALL of the games starting from Xenogears, INCLUDING Xenosaga 2 and get then get back to me on this 😊

@widaygames9329

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak duh were bad explaining it was quick text not a 30 mine video.

@widaygames9329

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak also with the “bare bones” i pretty much understood where thing came from but you are a hard core fan but blind. No point in pointed out cus the way you start your video was complaining about people correcting so… seems to me you are center minded and your opinion is the only one. No point going back a forth with you.

@themiddlecaterpillar8350

Жыл бұрын

@@widaygames9329 Dude, when i tried to read your message my entire Neighborhood had a stroke

@widaygames9329

Жыл бұрын

@@themiddlecaterpillar8350 sound great