Ben White wants to play for England, just not Steve Holland and Southgate. It's not that hard to understand

@kurtsudheim825

2 ай бұрын

Exactly, I said a few days ago exactly what he said at the end, Gareth contact ends in December. Likely will he a new coach, unless England win. Ben will need to have a chat with new coach, who may look at this as a problem, & say I will be happy to play for you etc

@S0L12D3

2 ай бұрын

100%

@Ts-os2pv

2 ай бұрын

He’s not playing for Southgate though he’s playing for his country

@juicemanirving

2 ай бұрын

@@Ts-os2pvyou can’t be this slow

@Nemophilist850

2 ай бұрын

He doesn't want to play for England very much then, if Southgate and Holland are happy to have him back.

Arsenal fans were saying how good Ben White was for about 2/3 years. Opposition fans were telling us he wasn't good. Now those same opposition fans are screaming because he doesn't want to represent England?? 😂😂

@Harry-df2kc

2 ай бұрын

That’s cold

@DD-uc3ft

2 ай бұрын

😅 real talk

@kurtsudheim825

2 ай бұрын

Difference between being best tb & wanted as back up, esp because you're versatile. Bit yes, is a bit ironic from those who called him shirt.. bit you can improve as well, he's not the same player he was 3 years ago

@jbo4547

2 ай бұрын

And?

@asruluveira

2 ай бұрын

yeah. I don't under stand why they are being so mad. they should be happy that the media make Ben white their target and take the pressure of England squad. I also hope he continue to hide behind edu so the media can milk this situation.

You’re forgetting the point that he will never play a second under Southgate. He has his favourites, irrespective of form and that’s become very obvious over the last couple of seasons

@robertking4645

2 ай бұрын

Southgate does have favorites but even if he didn't, during the world cup Ben White wouldn't start over Kyle Walker or Kieran Trippier. In that particular case, favoritism is not the issue

@Fandium

2 ай бұрын

@@robertking4645 He can play CB and England dont have 2 CBs that are better than him only Stones is better

@jackninetynine5036

2 ай бұрын

Same old agenda to slag of the manager whenever possible. He’s our 4th best right back (5th when James is fit) it’s hard for white but Southgate’s done nothing wrong it’s nothing to do with favouritism

@kurtsudheim825

2 ай бұрын

He's backup, they're for versatility. Look many players have gone to tournaments knowing that, but its for the exp, should still want to go, only 11 can be FIRST choice, it's what it means, still need others to go

@kurtsudheim825

2 ай бұрын

​@@robertking4645ironical neither of those 2 have been hot this season, been is probably above both rn, but Kyle has usually been #1

Never ever let anyone disrespect you and never disrespect yourself, go on Ben!!! Well done!

@sndjdidje

2 ай бұрын

It ain’t that deep mush

@hanx3560

2 ай бұрын

Well done Ben White for letting your team mates and your country down by leaving a World Cup midway through, absolute shithouse!

@fplben8652

2 ай бұрын

​@@hanx3560The world cup where he didn't play a single minute? Sure mate, because if the 3rd choice RB which never saw the pitch stayed we would have won the lot 🤦 You are the textbook example of why common sense isn't as common as you'd think 🤣

@londonsfinest6070

2 ай бұрын

@@sndjdidje it ain't at all, not in comparison to that night I had with your sister

@londonsfinest6070

2 ай бұрын

@@hanx3560 ok virgin

I stand with Ben White.

@FurioussBear

2 ай бұрын

That's the gayest thing I've heard

@ViolentEpyon

2 ай бұрын

Yeah too right. Most of these guys probably wouldn't put up with an arsehole in their own workplace but you put on a football shirt, and the rules fkn change.

@miniman2132

2 ай бұрын

For a coach to question a footballer who has overcame illness as a child, a gruelling youth programme, playing every minute of every game for Marcelo Bielsa in the Championship, earning a move to Arsenal and being their best CB, moving to RB and becoming one of the best in that position in the league, and earning the respect of a taskmaster manager like Arteta and all of his teammates who themselves work punishingly hard to win games, is honestly disgraceful. For Steve Holland to question his drive in football is ONLY terrible coaching and man management.

@hanx3560

2 ай бұрын

​@miniman2132 Ben 'Won Nothing' White. Loaned out to Newport County and Peterborough Utd to Brightons 4th choice CB to RB at Arsenal where suddenly he's better than Kyle Walker

@fplben8652

2 ай бұрын

​@@hanx3560 Winning things is not indicative of a player's ability. Harry Kane is one of the best players England has had yet has won nothing of magnitude in his career so that point is completely redundant. His career path is irrelevant to judging him now. Saka and Foden were benchwarmers and academy players at that point, Bellingham was at Birmingham City, Rice was a backup CB for West Ham so yet again where a player was 4/5 years ago is completely irrelevant to their ability. He may not be better than Kyle Walker but he's for sure better than Maguire. He's played CB most of his career and could easily start for England in that position.

I don’t blame Ben white. Bro was being made to look like a mug doing useless training drills then being screamed at infront of everyone.

@hanx3560

2 ай бұрын

No doubt you were pitchside at these training sessions and witnessed everything right? Mug

@fplben8652

2 ай бұрын

​@@hanx3560The respected Journalists at the Athletic who either were at St George's Park or had sources there did witness it though. Mug.

@hanx3560

2 ай бұрын

@@fplben8652The same mugs at the Athletic who were "90% sure that Mudryk will be joining Arsenal" and hailed Edu's signing of Willian and Cedric as a 'masterstroke'? 🤣 That Athletic?

@fplben8652

2 ай бұрын

​@@hanx3560You really don't help yourself do you? Being 90% sure of something still means there's doubt for 10% that it wouldn't happen. So that point is just you not using common sense over anything The opinion of Willian and Cedric isn't the same as fact. You're selecting a small sample that is completely dwarfed by all the articles which have been accurate. Reported by David Ornstein, as one of the most respected journalists in the game I think I'll take my chances over a bitter little kid in a KZread comment section 😭

@hanx3560

2 ай бұрын

@@fplben8652 Lol, the same mugs at the Athletic who reported that "Mudryk is 90% sn Arsenal player" and that Arteta signing Ramsdale and Willian was "a masterstroke"

Why is Josh crying? Ben White is 100% in the right here. Feel like Josh is just projecting because he was never good enough to play

@pauloneill914

2 ай бұрын

White is an average player….unlikable with a dale winton tan

@ericcorcoran9250

2 ай бұрын

@@pauloneill914 You sir, do not know ball. White has been arguably the best RB in the league this year. And he doesn’t have to be likeable to be good at the sport nor does his tan matter in any context to his ability lol. You’re just a hater

@ajay-ul2bf

2 ай бұрын

​@@ericcorcoran9250 i mean its just wrong isn't it 😂played one year on loan for us at leeds and was amazing wanted him permanent but even one year with us got him a 50 mil transfer to arsenal, and has been class there too, so he is just wrong isnt here 😂😂ben white was class at cb for us and at rb for youse, he coulr be good for England to be fair if they resolved all the bs

@juicemanirving

2 ай бұрын

@@pauloneill914he’s average yet he’s among the best rbs in the league.

@pauloneill914

2 ай бұрын

@@juicemanirving he’s behind, Walker, James, Trippier, Arnold & Bissaka. So 6th choice Englishman lol. Throw in Porro and Dallot and now he’s 8th choice. If being in the top 8 is classed as among the best then okay. To be among the best you must be top 10% ie top 2 in my opinion. He isn’t even close to that!!!

shock the big tory chelsea fan is fuming at ben white

@solidsnake3446

2 ай бұрын

He can't even explain why he is so angry, makes a strawman about ward prouse not being selected

@kristoffsamm10

2 ай бұрын

Chelsea fan is a clown

@paulorganisation1

2 ай бұрын

That is what being spoiled by sugar daddy money for 20yrs, does to you.

@TheInsideVideo

2 ай бұрын

I'm a socialist Evertonian and I think he's a twat. Take it you're a deluded Arsenal fan?

@kbljbaojcbfa

2 ай бұрын

@@solidsnake3446 exactly lmao, if anything he should be happy about Ben White deciding not to go because he's giving another player an opportunity

Yo F that Chelsea Guy or what ever team he supports. Went way too far..

lol Josh last week you are having a go at Rashford for releasing a "poor me article" to the media and then saying he should do his talking on the pitch. This week you are having a go at Ben White for knowing that same media circus is nonsense, not playing their game and actually doing his talking on the pitch where it matters?!? Make it make sense.

@miniman2132

2 ай бұрын

I expect nothing less from a Chelsea fan .. that club sucks the quality out of everything it touches.

@mf289

2 ай бұрын

Exactly mate!!

@sG12669

2 ай бұрын

he’s actually toxic asf, it’s insane.

@googley98

2 ай бұрын

That comparison is pretty dim.

If it was palmer that Chelsea fan would not be acting like that

@Samweak

2 ай бұрын

He was also faking it, go back and look at his expressions when he has his “outburst” he’s forcing it for views

He'll be back when Southgate is gone. I understand his decision.

@hanx3560

2 ай бұрын

So when Southgate's gone Ben Won Nothing s White suddenly becomes better than treble winners John Stones and Kyle Walker and is the 'first name on the England team sheet right? 😅

@akeemguy7331

2 ай бұрын

@@hanx3560 on one hand you are trolling him saying he won nothing and on the other you criticizing him for not being in the squad... lmao..

Where was this outrage when slabby Maguire was starting for England despite not playing for his club for 18 months

@Ali-lc7vp

2 ай бұрын

What the fuck do you mean??? Literally the entire country, especially youtube/twitter, was constantly outraged???

@jakecollin5499

2 ай бұрын

Pretty sure there might've been one person on the planet not bitching. They were in the wilderness and had no Internet. Wtf are you on about?

@kurtsudheim825

2 ай бұрын

Everywhere

@hanx3560

2 ай бұрын

​@@Ali-lc7vp'KZread and Twatter were outraged" 😅 Ffs welcome to 2024

@asruluveira

2 ай бұрын

@@Ali-lc7vp after watching Ben white hide like coward and let edu handle his business I take back the thing I say when people say Maguire have ball of steels to speak to the media when be can hide behind Southgate.

"Other people want something so Ben White should". What a stupid stupid thing to say. I hope you aren't paying this guy Brian.

The fact people still think footballers should automatically feel honoured and proud to play international football is fucking embarassing. The genuine anger in Josh at the beginning is cringe as fuck

@jamesparker1830

2 ай бұрын

You’re what’s wrong with the country today, absolutely zero patriotism

@mickbanner

2 ай бұрын

You don't think representing your sport for your country is an honour? (Any sport/Any country). If you don't hold that in regard...then you don't hold anything sacred in the realm of sport. Your argument is the equivalent to my girlfriend's argument.."why would you want to watch a load of millionaires kick a ball around."

@robertking4645

2 ай бұрын

I mean, yeah. Representing your country is an honor. Being selected as one of the best English players in your position is something to be proud of.

@user-rh1iv7yp2c

2 ай бұрын

​@mickbanner everyone doesn't have to agree with you. If you find supporting your country as some sort of sacred entity, OK, I don't need to in order to find my value in the sport.

@allip2modsaresimpingdiscor284

2 ай бұрын

Facts though😂😂😂 the government couldn’t give a f about this country so why should a footballer care about playing for it?😂

So the last 18 months nothing mentioned, now England and the COACHES need him (due to 2 injuries) and hes told them to fuck off Good on you Ben White 👏🏻

@wizardofoz5617

2 ай бұрын

That was the first thing I thought but not even mentioned

@benjamindadzie9657

2 ай бұрын

Meaning GS doesn't respect him and wouldn't have called him had it not been the injuries..

@martinedlin5517

2 ай бұрын

Spot on

That chelsea fan is an absolute bell end.

What's the big issue. He doesn't wanna go with England while those two are still there and he doesn't want to be 3rd/4th choice. He doesn't have to and people should respect how he feels not how they feel about it

@hanx3560

2 ай бұрын

I'm sure the likes of treble winners Grealish and Foden and Aaron Ramsdale wasn't happy to be 3rd or 4th choice in Qatar either but fortunately for England they're not weak; spineless and are proud to represent their country

@moeswagger2329

2 ай бұрын

@@hanx3560 Everyone you need is 2nd choice lol. I didn't know you "represent" by warming up the bench lol.

@akeemguy7331

2 ай бұрын

@@hanx3560 didnt even know Ramsdale was in the squad 😂

@ajay-ul2bf

2 ай бұрын

​@@akeemguy7331no because Southgate picks his favourites 😂not even an arsenal fan but back then he was doing well, but Pickford plays well for england so he played the whole time 😂same with Phillips lol im a leeds fan and i love the guy but lbh he only got that much playing time because of Southgate

@GA-ik6pi

2 ай бұрын

Factssssss

Ben White has never said he doesn’t want to play for England! He just didn’t want to be picked on this occasion because of whose in change! What’s Josh’s problem with White?! Relax bro 🤣

Josh is the worst thing to happen to this channel, and given Geordie’s track record that’s saying something.

@philip244

2 ай бұрын

Josh is spot on

@_sjakelly9450

2 ай бұрын

@@philip244hes a massive tory

@tyleru96

2 ай бұрын

@@philip244 lmaooooo he's just thrown a complete temper tantrum because a footballer told two managers he doesn't get on with that he doesn't want to play for them.

It's about time Southgate and his staff get held accountable for their horrible squad related decisions, and that's what Ben is doing.

0:09 this guy is so cringe and emotional on a lot of of his stances. If he calmed down for a minute a put together an argument like an adult I think a lot more people would respect his opinions.

@totsh2056

2 ай бұрын

He thinks this is how to get views. He's probably one of those people who finds well articulated arguments boring. Ah well...

It's funny how nowdays you can't stand up for yourself without getting criticised by ppl that don't know the ins and outs. Good on Ben white for not playing for a manger whom contridects himself on picking players that don't deserve a call up and playing them based on merits rather then form.

The fact that Josh styles himself like a pound shop Daniel Bedingfield pisses me off.

@alang7391

2 ай бұрын

😂

In this video: A table full of England fans begin to suspect, about 7 years after the rest of the world, that Gareth Southgate might not be a very good manager.

@esseffsee

2 ай бұрын

he might not be but you don’t need to be an amazing manager in international football hence why our two best ever managers on paper (fabio capello and don revie) were fucking disasters

@moeswagger2329

2 ай бұрын

@@esseffsee He'll start Henderson and Phillips again lmao. England will never win an international competition with their appointments. Roy Hodgson took England to a WC AND Euros 😂😂😂😂

@esseffsee

2 ай бұрын

well whatever decisions he makes right or wrong have worked for him better than most and yes he has a good team but keegan, sven, mcclaren and capello had the golden generation and all did worse than southgate. yes ik hodgson took us to those tournaments?

@thelastgreataudit8112

16 күн бұрын

@@esseffsee Hot take: But if there wasn't that weird Telegraph hit job on Big Sam you'd have at least made a WC final and I'd have taken y'all to beat Italy in the Euros. Big Sam is exactly the sort of gritty winner who would have ugly'd your asses through those moments.

Why is this a problem? Ben White clearly isnt happy with the Southgate and Holland and tgey clearly aren't happy with Ben White. If they were, White wouldn't reject a call up, Holland would treat White with some respect and Southgate would actually start him or give him more minutes. If White doesn't want to warm the bench behind players he's outworked, outclassed and outperformed then hes entitled to reject that, it saves Whute wasting his time and effort where he isnt appreciated and gives the spot to somebody who wants to play for England.

Why are we all acting like we rate Southgate? We know he’s a mug, I’m with Ben White

Can someone enlighten me as to what the serious situation that happened to Ben white is? I’ve been trying to find this out since the World Cup and can’t find anything relevant

@Nanodise

2 ай бұрын

Steve Holland embarrassed him infront of the squad by screaming at him during training drills for not trying hard enough and not taking it seriously

@mitchinga1

2 ай бұрын

@@Nanodise I think he means what happened in Bens personal life, and I want to know too

@lidgie123

2 ай бұрын

Telegraph article from this afternoon explains it

@hanx3560

2 ай бұрын

​@@NanodiseAnd of course you were pitchside and witnessed everything looool 😅 You clearly live in Noddyland

@Nanodise

2 ай бұрын

@hanx3560 they literally said it in the video you mong. Why are you looking for conflict?

Why would you happily sit on the bench and not get picked over someone like Maguire?

When the manager consistently picks Harry Maguire over you, when you're a mainstay in a team challenging for the league, you'd have every right to sack it off.

Southgate didn’t have to even mention a disagreement Southgate in that same interview said he’s had players turn down England before he didn’t name those players but he named Ben white he could have said we have a lot of depth in defence and I’ve picked the squad that I think is best for these games. That’s end of discussion then

Imagine if this wasn't involving an Arsenal player? This wouldn't be such a talking point..

He didn't turn it down, if you wanna be so passionate about an argument be across the facts. He told Southgate not to bother considering him, he wasn't called up and refused to travel. He clearly is sick of getting no minutes no matter how incredible he performs every week for 2-3 years, and obviously doesn't get on with certain characters in the coaching staff.

lol Ben white will suck it up just to get benched for Maguire after multiple errors. Come on don’t take the piss. The come to the media to thru him under the bus and say Ben white is imagining things pretty much hahaha.

Where are the full streams guys? Haven't been following lately

Surely Southgate, as the manager, should be getting both these guys in a room and mediating a reconcilliation so white isn’t withdrawing. Seems like if there’s been a bust up between his coaching staff and a player he should be all over that. Maybe he has done and they’re both stubborn sods?

0:09 He’s not a disgrace, this time of year for friendlies isn’t an uncommon thing for players to drop out especially in a title race.

Ben White is absolutely right, he doesnt want to play for Southgate, or Holland, after they dissed him, I cant blame him.

Do the kick off still do shows on twitch if not why am I not getting stream notifications even though I've been subscribed since the start?

@phillytiger

2 ай бұрын

Got dumped in the Geordie fallout. Back on KZread now.

It's easy for Southgate and everyone to now claim that "Oh, I would have liked to pick him, he was going to make the squad". But in actual fact, no one can be sure that he was going to get picked. as he has overlooked him so many times before and went with players who were in much poorer form and who offered way less than Ben White. So I don't buy it really.

White asked not to be selected for these friendlies. Bellingham asked not to be selected for friendlies back in October. Where is the outrage over that? This guy is embarrassing himself.

Ben white isn’t the only person to turn the international call up from Southgate

@MrChipz900

2 ай бұрын

Hudson Odoi and Reece James…Chelsea lad doesn’t seem to remember

After handing the Euro's to Italy,how can anyone have any respect for Southgate

Why was there nothing said in previous squads when he wasn’t picked only now. Clearly something has gone on at the World Cup that he feels is unforgivable and doesn’t want to be in that environment but all of a sudden we have injuries at right back and now we are trying to turn him into some massive traitor, leave the lad alone. If he doesn’t want to play international football then fine good luck to him there is always another player to come in we don’t need to destroy a young man when nobody really knows what the issues are behind the scenes. There is always two sides to the same story.

LMAO I can't stand Josh with his fake outrage.

@eoinmcdonagh3929

2 ай бұрын

Always so mid

That was not wat happened. Steve holland asked man city players (walker and stones) about pressing trigggers how they do at man city. They gave holland a brief. Holland asked same question to ben white and ben white who did not want to disclose the strategy at arsenal said "he wasnt sure about that" 😂 which pissed holland off and he insulted ben white in front of whole england team.

@himalayasharma7991

2 ай бұрын

And all his assistants have attitude similar to Jose mourinho

@himalayasharma7991

2 ай бұрын

And all his assistants have attitude similar to Jose mourinho

@abdullah087

2 ай бұрын

And you know this because? You’re steve holland’s stank up underwear?

Yous actually had respect for Southgate in the first place? The mans a melt.

@safcjoe7062

Ай бұрын

He's a horrible man and a bang average AT BEST manager, money grabber who isn’t good enough for this job.

Southgate would never play him anyway….ridiculous discussion

@Koluvuma

2 ай бұрын

Facts

Are we forgetting southgate is an absolute helmet? I certainly couldnt work under him

Why is Garth allowed to pick out of form players, players who don’t even get game for there clubs, players who have left elite football to retire. But Ben whites chastised for choosing not to play for Southgate…😅 We have a relegated Middlesbrough manager in charge of the best England team in my lifetime , he bottled a very easy euros final, with a better manager we walk that final against a very average Italy team that couldn’t even make the World Cup.

Does anyone know what that personal reason is that ben white left the WC camp? I thought no one knew

Disappointed with the white situation but it's entirely his call and says nothing either way about his character

If Ben doesn't want to play for England that's his prerogative, the rest of you "pundits" need to accept it and move on. Besides Southgate would never play White, he has his favourites that he would choose over in form players

Finally someone who demands more of the leaders, he is supposed to be a manager, that menans MANAGE situations like this

Outrageous to slander Ben White over this situation honestly. Shame.

If it's not such a big deal why doesn't Steve Holland just apologise?

Well we now know that Holland questioned White's integrity and loyalty to Football and then scrutinized him for it. White doesn't want to play for Gareth or Holland after this. Yet Gareth said in his press conference that White and Holland have no issue. Man is more of liar than all governments combined.

"Put in some of the more tactical innovations for England"..?🤦‍♂️ Yeah because England's displayed so much tactical nouse during Southgate's tenure?!🤣👌

Ben white clearly doesn’t like the current coaching staff as well as more than half of England’s supporters. Ben white is choosing not to play for southgate. it takes a lot to turn down not playing for your national team, but I stand with Ben white, why waste time playing with a coach you don’t personally like…

White should be allowed to make whatever choice he wants, like lets not pretend that if white left that Southgate would ever even play him. Southgate picks his favorites regardless of form, accomplishments, tactical flexibility. also the irony about Josh crying about the choices of another man, that doesn`t involve him at all is very ironic, considering he tries to frame it as White being weak or something from not going along with what he did view as disrespect from Holland. everything he tries to put on White can just as easily be applied to Josh, be a grown up and just accept the choices of someone else in this case White.

Finally someone has the balls to speak some sense.

Gareth Southgate might be the worst manager along with Sven Goran Eriksson who ever managed the English squad in the last 30-40 years. Good for Ben White in basically telling Gareth Southgate to fuck off

Southgate really starting to look like a contemporary Manchester United manager. Sign him up 🤦‍♂️ We’re completely finished if he gets the job.

Southgate is a dishonest character. Stated he would pick on form......then picks his favourites even if they ain't playing for their club. Can't blame White, what's the point going if no matter how well you play the manager picks his favourites.

Don't blame him for not wanting to play for that bell end southgate

I’m enjoy the discussion videos and understand the decision Brian’s made. Surely tho last day of the season, euros etc they’re doing live watch alongs?

Southgate couldn't get a job in the Premier League today. The weasel is punching above his weight.

The team isn’t harmonious with Southgate. That’s a joke.

Had to turn off at 2:45 when Josh started talking. I smashed a like and I’ll catch the next video…

Who is the btec Johnny from friday night dinner

Anyone know what "allegedly" happened to Ben white, whatever this guy is on about?

@tomdip2094

2 ай бұрын

Arsenal fan, and no, I dont think there is anything more than complete speculation.

@shrisiva4016

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I don't think anything was revealed to be going on in his personal life

@fplben8652

2 ай бұрын

Nobody really knows but we're pretty sure something DID happen as Arsenal made a post basically supporting him during whatever situation he was in.

It is none of your business what Ben White does or does not do for his country. That's his and England staff business. You are just Joe Public/audience you have as much right to have an opinion here as you do with Ant and Dec wanting to put on a show for ITV. You don't like it you know what to do. Who are you to criticize Ben or portion blame to him,? How dare you try to label him *....*.

Let's wait and see out of what hymn book KG is gonna sing when Southgate become Man U'seless manager

No matter what you think has happened, anyone who gets his club manager to call the England boss to say he dosen't want to play like a child who's bunking off school rather than call them self suggests a very weak personality and a man-child and should be nowhere near the England team.

There was more here and you cut it! Errrrr I miss full shows man. This was my introduction to this stuff and I'm not leaving but damn.

Maybe some people prefer self respect over materialistic trophies? Who are we to decide for the man? If he regrets it, that’s his cross to bear.

I don’t blame Ben White

Ben White doesn't get a look in you have Southgate picking his favourites every tournament, White has been playing with an injury as well, why would he risk his entire season to go wirh England for 2 friendlies when he doesnt get picked for games anyway at the moment but Maguire is a firm starter every single game.. It makes no sense

@esseffsee

2 ай бұрын

well coz for england in tournaments maguire has turned up and as much as i like white and he will probably displace maguire most likely next tournament he has been quite meh the few games he’s had

Southgate does not create harmony he talks too much about players in a non professional way. He needs to keep things private and keep the dirty laundry out of press conferences. Certainly not the first time

It is Ben Whites choice. Unless you know everything about the situation (which we dont) then we cannot judge. Obviously, he had a falling out with Southgate and his assistant coach. Is there more to it than this? Maybe. But I will say, if it was me, I couldnt be arsed playing a friendly international especially if I have huge fixtures coming up that will make or break my season. No way am I going to risk injury for a pointless friendly international.

Many players turned down playing for England it's not the first time, Scholes and Carrick are good examples. Representing your country is an honor but when its not that beneficial for you like sitting on the bench serving no purpose, I'd pass. England will win NOTHING with this bum in charge

Wait what happened in Ben White’s personal life? I haven’t seen that reported anywhere

Southgate won’t be England Manager forever

Ben white- if the word "based" was a footballer

Let’s be honest. Given the turgid foot England play. Why would you want to play.????

The last part about telling Ben White to join the team so when England wins a tourney he gets a medal... Have you considered that the two coaches that Ben White doesn't believe it might not be capable of winning a trophy?

Brian keeps talking about mental health, if going to England camp is affecting someone's mental health and disturbs their peace of mind maybe they should be given the option of not going rather than sucking it up

Josh came in guns blazing 😂

Rewards loyalty rather than ability & form Southgate is a prick & a yes man. Definitely not good enough to be England Manager!

If he doesn’t wanna play he doesn’t wanna play it ain’t that deep

Crying over your 4th choice English RB is crazy, just pick someone else

@chilibeer3912

2 ай бұрын

Reece James could probably be fit for a good 15 minutes and Josh likes to remind us with that “on his day” bollocks.

@kojo0711

Ай бұрын

You will wish that 4th choice was available.

If he doesn’t wanna play, he doesn’t have to play it’s not that deep

Solid L for Josh here. He looks absolutely hair brained here.

Didn't Ben Foster say he didn't want to play for england when he was still playing.

This was for a flippin friendly!! That Josh is a Nob head! Ben is brilliant, we need him, and Saka sod Southgate

Tactical innovations for England? Sorry what tactics?!

Josh and Holland , both Rent Boys

Josh unintelligently flying off the handle. Sounds like a clown, just hopping on the bandwagon. You have no idea of the reasons White has decided not to join up with the squad. To stand on a platform like this and call him a disgrace without knowing whats gone on is shameful.

Josh is coming off as such a fucking Tory lmao

@SopranoLFC

2 ай бұрын

He probably is

Why didn’t Ben White Told Southgate himself he didn’t want to be in England squad he got a Top brass in the Arsenal to do it for him