Probably the most reasonable and empathetic discussion about Ben White i've seen so far. Respect.

@FrankWango-rs7bu

Ай бұрын

Cause Manchester united won and his favorite team and coach Ange got stuffed by little Fulham.

@matthewnurse4962

Ай бұрын

@@FrankWango-rs7bu u know this is Ben fosters channel not mark

@jakecollin5499

Ай бұрын

@@matthewnurse4962ya good luck trying to get an even remotely normal response

@iamsamu3lx289

Ай бұрын

@@FrankWango-rs7bu How do either of those things relate to Ben White you weapon

@Do27gg

Ай бұрын

Idk how u can blindly defend Ben white lol

Watson makes this podcast worth watching, his knowledge and emotional output from the quiz is the best part :D

@Rootcauz

Ай бұрын

Love Watto. He is class.

@sanctusfides

Ай бұрын

I'm always rooting for him in the quiz

You know whats crazy. I guarantee once southgate is gone, Ben white will straight away accept the call up to England. Theres a video of him getting a call up and he looked extremely proud. All this he doesnt care about football is not even true either. What Ben White said was is he doesnt watch it at home. When he grew up, he grew up playing it not watching it

@TheMiniCale

Ай бұрын

He doesn’t want to sit on the bench and who can blame him

@Diegbone

Ай бұрын

Yeah I think the only reason he rejected the call up was because he has problems with someone there. Also White doesn’t “hate” football he just doesn’t watch it at home but he’s said that he loves playing

@ryomawashere4032

Ай бұрын

@@Diegbone The media twisted his words because he is not Southgate's favorite. Remember that the same media run a PR campaign on Maguire, even called his mom.

@TheDjSweets

Ай бұрын

the mass media is wicked tool when used how they use it. they all stick together across all networks and socials with the same narrative pumped out in synchronisation.

@NeilLewis77

Ай бұрын

@@TheMiniCale i can. your supposed to sit on the bench until your time comes. like this week when he could be playing against brazil at wembley and try to nail down a spot in the team. Joe gomez just spent 4 years out the squad and didnt complain. i just dont get why ben white thinks hes above trippier, reece james and trent who have all took turns on the bench watching kyle walker start most games.

It’s finally nice to hear a voice of reason about the Ben white situation. You’re an employee at the end of the day; it’s perfectly normal to have a bit of work life balance. Also 👀 it’s funny how a fringe player like Ben would actually understand how it feels to be on the bench and not be played. While all the people who were nailed on starters are saying “ it’s an honour”

Love that Ben put in a disclaimer saying it’s GK analysis after hearing Onana get grilled for missing a deflected shot

@TYLOTYLOTYLO

Ай бұрын

😂 he only said that cause Marks there. Onana is trash im a rival fan and i was screaming throughout that game. He’s absolutely shit

Keep up the goalie talk. No one is offering these details when it comes to shot stopping. Love it!

i feel for Ben White, cause there probably some things that we don't know and country always will be bigger than a player.

Very intelligent take regarding Ben White . .. all other platforms are commenting with a lot of nonsense.

LOVE the goalkeeper chat, would love more of this!

The discussion from 6:17 is why i love this show. No other place give this kind of analysis. Great work lads.

Great vid lads, glad our little Coventry got plenty of mentions. Thank you lads. Very much looking forward to the semi-final next month 😀

i really love the GK views, not something that gets talked about all that much anywhere else so starting the pod with a quick "could he have saved x/y/z goal" and getting your views is great.

Totally respect White for saying no. If he doesn't want to go, he doesn't want to go. Ian Wright and Harry Redknapp should maybe consider the reasons he doesn't want to, especially in a period of time in which we're encouraging men to improve their mental health.

Still the best notification of the week ❤. Enjoy the international break off lads. Excited for the title run in with watto, mark and our fav fozzie

@thecyclinggk

Ай бұрын

We are back next week too! Keep an eye out next Monday on Spotify! 🙌🏼

@wzh-ko9ce

Ай бұрын

socceroos~~~~😜😜

This is the cast I’m always used to I always get excited when the camera pans to the guest seats and it’s Dave and Mark

I cant believe mark wears this hoodie voluntarily

@Do27gg

Ай бұрын

It’s his bf what do you expect

as a goalie i love and watch this podcast for the goalie discussions! great work 💪

Best football pod good takes on things that matter and banter takes as well when needed

Well done guys. Finally a reasonable take on the Ben white situation

I don't blame Ben White at all, he went to the world cup and didnt play, over maguire ffs... and im a united fan.

The crucial phrase in the Ben White saga is "At this time" referring to his availability for England. How can the hard of thinking like Redknapp, Murphy and all the social media keyboard warriors not see it's not England Ben doesn't want to play for it's current coaching regime. Ben White is a much better footballer than Southgate is a manager and hopefully Southgate and that no-mark Steve Holland will be gone after the Euros. Ben White was estatic to be picked for England on his first call up and I expect he will be again after July. Great show by the way, intelligent opinions.

Absolutely top analysis lads🙌🏾

Love the show and the quiz is the best part. I want to know if you will do livestream during the Euros ? French fan

Forget Sterlings penalty, the free kick he took over Palmer was absolutely criminal!

I think Watto made a great point that Ben White might be doing this not only for himself but for the benefit of England too- if he knows there's a coach there that he just doesn't gel with and it might cause some animosity or awkward situation amongst the group, the best thing for both parties might just be to maintain some distance.

Having the ability to start Watkins/ Kane to tire out the defence and then subbing on kane/ watkins would be so hard for teams to deal with.

@jbo4547

Ай бұрын

Lol Southgate would never ever do that

Class as always lads

@thecyclinggk

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

The best trio on KZread 🔥🔥

GK analysis here is great.

Loving the PODCAST Ben!

@thecyclinggk

Ай бұрын

Thanks! 🙌🏼

Most sensible take on Ben White on socials

I think you guys should have an analysis every week of the to 5 saves in the matchday, and some mistakes, I am a goalie as well and I love this!

I love the intro and outtro

Always love the goalie analysis 🧐

Keep up the GK analysis guys, love this trio 👍

Football fill in is legit the best thing on youtube.

brilliantly said by mark about fulham and the premier league

My favourite weekly show!

It's funny how West Ham, Forest, Arsenal, Brighton and Spurs have all had their "worst performance of the season" away at Fulham. I wonder if there's a common theme... 🤔

@rmaacc25

Ай бұрын

Facts!

@999yeko

Ай бұрын

May be it's not far fetch for Fulham to challenge for a European Qualifying spot (Europa or Conference)

@shakmanceljames9336

Ай бұрын

True, Fulham are really solid.

@paulie-g

Ай бұрын

It must be the famous cauldron of Craven Cottage getting to them, the famous atmosphere etc.. Seriously though, I think Silva is an underrated manager and clearly his Fulham have summat about them. There are cases where you can see a team hasn't turned up in the first few minutes of the game, but in these cases it looked like Fulham had a bit to do with making it happen

@shakmanceljames9336

Ай бұрын

@@paulie-g will be interesting to see if he can hold onto all the standout players

The 1st Onana goal you guys were talking about, I'm wondering if he was scared to hit it straight left cause of varane and risk the og. Maybe he thought he was closer. You guys know better than me but that was my 1st thought when I saw it live.

sterling played well? 🤣🤣

@prodempt5590

Ай бұрын

Other than the 2 horrific deadball plays he took, I didn't think he played bad

@MihailBFC

Ай бұрын

was a disaster 😂😂😂

@miket7056

Ай бұрын

​@@prodempt5590 come on pal just say you didn't watch the game. That was one of the worst performance I have seen from a player

@prodempt5590

Ай бұрын

@miket7056 created 4 chances and assisted. You could watch any game and find someone that has a worse game😂

@edenjorginho8604

Ай бұрын

@@prodempt5590 actually watch the game instead of just looking at the stats, there’s a reason he was booed

Gareth Southgate will be the cause of England’s failure this summer. He’s an absolute prat

As of next season can we get a mid week football fill in on champions league,europa etc?

White isn’t going to get any minutes at all! Walker, Trent, Trippier. Leave the lad alone for knowing what’s what!

That is a wild kit sir Foster!

Goalie analysis is class btw, you can't get it anywhere else. Man Utd need to buy a really promising young goalie to put pressure on Onana to improve.

We rarely get insight into goalkeeping nowadays so I say keep doing the analysis!

Absolutely love the goalie analysis as a GK ❤❤❤

Love this show

What about uniteds first goal where Kelleher palms it over himself and one yard off the line for Scott to knock it in..... Incredible

Ben we as a fan Hopefully it’s not just me but Most people have to watch this for opinion on goalkeepers cause it’s something ya never hear on sky or anything they never talk about the keepers so it’s good to see people go into detail about them

I’m glad you agree on the 2nd Liverpool goal, because I’ve been accused of having an agenda against Onana. I’ve been saying for a while that he needs to push the ball out of the danger area when he makes saves. He’s been asking to get punished for it all season. Thankfully we still won the game, but I expect so much better from a literal balon d’or nominee.

Is it me or does anybody else zoom in to find out what books are on the table? 😂 we need a show & tell every episode 👌🏼

legend

Watto you know you would of played for England had you not had that injury. I remember seeing you at the corner pocket and being in awe haha.

Ben white since whatever happened at the World Cup hasn’t been called up once, is Southgate took Ben white to the euros it would be for show and nothing else he wouldn’t play a single minute why would he go

Jon McJons: Get in!!

Great GK analysis from watto and Ben top stuff lads, loving the podcast, was a terrible loss from us but we move on 😂

It's so strange how everyone seem to have forgotten how Southgate camp have treated Ben White over the years.

@TP-pq9xx

Ай бұрын

It's never been proven in the first place so there's nothing to remember.

@georgeharris9153

Ай бұрын

Found the arsenal fan 😂

@georgeharris9153

Ай бұрын

He’s the fourth/fifth best English right back. Treating him badly would be never having picked him, not starting better players ahead of him.

Maybe a bit harsh on Kelleher for the 4th goal? It went in off the post after all - couldn't be more accurate, yes it wasn't a high-velocity shot but still - direction wise it was as accurate as you can get

@Do27gg

Ай бұрын

It was literally perfectly placed, idk why they’re being so harsh

I find it very harsh to blame Kelleher on the Diallo goal. The shot is right in the corner, in off the post. Meanwhile, I think Onana could have stopped all three goals.

Laughing at Watto & Mark moaning about the Jarrod Bowen question when I got it at the same time as Ben.

Wato, Goldbridge, and Ben Foster are such a good combination of personalities

Not sure when people started to decide that a treble is achievable without champions league. Liverpool cannot do it without champions league and even more now without FA cup. They're not good enough

@MegaDorkatron

Ай бұрын

three silverwere is a treble no mather how you define it. It is just a lesser treble, kinda like a flush in Poker vs a royal flush.

@Do27gg

Ай бұрын

Not sure when people forgot basic maths. Treble = 3. It’s A treble not THE treble. Still a treble and still very impressive

@TP-pq9xx

Ай бұрын

One team is still on for the quintuple, though

@bhvillaman4401

Ай бұрын

Liverpool already have a treble without the champions League mate

@Do27gg

Ай бұрын

@@TP-pq9xx who?

Question idea: How many PGMOL apologies have they issues this season.

My brother, an Arsenal fan, said that Ben White has a problem with England's assistant coach, not so much with Southgate. I'm not sure what happened there, but it makes sense from White's perspective imo. Who would want to go and sit on the bench, not playing any minutes, knowing that you're not playing because you and the assistant coach had a fallout? Understandable imo.

Foz is so competitive in the quiz it's hilarious

Fair play Mark G regarding the Benjamin. that's why they hate you so much because your bigger than them in honesty and following. "Players picked on form!?" That tells you they take us for complete mugs.

Benjamin white has come out to the public amd said he would appreciate if people used his real name, not Ben. Yet from across the pond in canada every single pundit and englishman I hear calls him Ben. Not only the coach of england but it seems the entire english football world does not actually respect him. I think the fact he does not care to play is great, it shows solid boundaries and is a proper example to youth.

@Nippleless_Cage

Ай бұрын

Idk, Ben White just sounds better 😂

ben white is not going to miss out on sun bathing time by playing for england 😂😂😂

Would have thought of anyone Ben Foster would be empathetic towards White considering it's a similar situation he was in with England, and I was right this is probs the best view on the whole situation with Ben White

They just hate Onana always talking badly of him…. why didn’t talk about the Liverpool goalkeeper he should’ve save 3 goals from United but they didn’t talk about :/ just sad

Next season Mainoo needs to be our fixed no.8 Don't want to see in no.6 just to adjust him in the team.

I would argue as a United fan not our best performance this season but my favourite every player just going for it shock and awe the United way of old I loved about 5 minutes of it in a good way ❤

Disastrous questions but world class quiz as every week😂

@thecyclinggk

Ай бұрын

🤣

When did Ian Wright blame Ben White for rejecting England? Can someone send me the link to that please. Cos I’m going to call bull on that!

Mark, why don't you mention Rashford being picked despite being no where near good enough this season?!

@TallyDrake

Ай бұрын

Mark talks about it on his channels.

Rather be in Liverpool's position than United's .

@Do27gg

Ай бұрын

Facts, let them enjoy this before they get knocked out by Coventry

@Maple_T29

Ай бұрын

This reminds me of last season when United fans were telling us they had a better season than Arsenal😂 like yeh you won a cup but you also lost 6-3 and 7-0 to your biggest rivals, held 4 away at Brentford, got smashed by Sevilla in Europa and then got beat by your city rivals in a cup final. No way I would hold all that just for one carabao cup💀 I agree with you guys, would rather be in a title race than a race for Europa league. Also they celebrated beating you like they were a league two team and it’s all gonna lead to nothing when Pep dunks another trophy on Ten Hags bald head💀😂

@damianbrowne847

Ай бұрын

@@Maple_T29 I hope you enjoyed your runners up trophy last season… oh wait. You don’t get one. Arsenal…. Always the bridesmaid and never the bride. 🫵💩

@damianbrowne847

Ай бұрын

What Manchester United fan said that Pip? Delusional. However, we got 3rd and the league cup last season so don’t worry about it. You can have it this season.

@pip1723

Ай бұрын

I heard one United fan say they could go on and win the league 😂 after the victory on Sunday....

I love the analysis, but if you blokes can see what Onana's problems are, then the question must be asked, "Is it the coaching at Man United, or is Onana uncoachable?" For being at this level of football, Onana seems to make A LOT of mistakes. ALSO................... What happened to the "mystery jersey" box?! I used to love that bit!! Keep on keeping on boys!

The media has absolutely spun his words. All he said is that he doesn't watch football when he's home, never said he doesn't like it. The problem here has to be the absolutely incompetent manager England employ, they will win nothing with that clown at the helm.

Thanks Fozzyprat, Davoprat and Brentprat x

Wan Bissaka MOTM. the most consistent player for every minute he was on the pitch.

I very very rarely seek to make a racial comment on KZread because it will always be twisted and assumed the worst. But there's this great sadness in the pit of my stomach that if he were a black Englishman with his skillset and calibre, his "Englishness" would be questioned; his loyalty to his country would be judged; how disrespectful it is to the King and to country etc. The usual nationalism parroting. Credit to Ben White for standing on what he believes is right. That's all this is. A disagreement between him and management. Something we all can salute for an employee standing up for himself. But if he were not a white Englishman, I fear the conversation topics would be far more polarising. And as an Englishman, it saddens me that this thought came to my mind. Apologies if I'm overthinking.

Hows the Sneaker collection going?.

I always watch the football fill in as soon as it comes out, but I always get disappointed as they hardly mention City. Don't know what's their agenda against us

Frank Lampard?! Haha, wtf Goldbridge got away easy with that horrible horrible guess.

Ah, yes. The good old 14 yard reaction time. That’s almost like clearing thw Kessel run in less than 12 parsec..

@bg22757

Ай бұрын

😂😂

@Nippleless_Cage

Ай бұрын

14 yards is almost 50 feet. That's a lot of time for a ball to be in the air and you not do anything to stop it.

That Bayern shirt is as awful as spurs. Good lord looks like a 80s bus seat.

@Driolo95

Ай бұрын

They don’t make the bus seats like they used to!

@bhvillaman4401

Ай бұрын

Nah it looks good mate dunno what California bus seats you've been bummed on but it wasn't that

@darrenbudgen966

Ай бұрын

@@bhvillaman4401 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I am of the opinion that Ben White is allowed to make the decision he decided but my serious bug bear is the international breaks coming up and suddenly they become injured .I truly think they should if they do use the I'm injured excuse and they then miss the next game for there club .I wonder then does the I'm injury excuse would be slowed down .

When will you be making more cycling content Ben?

Feels like Onana could have the game of his life and still get criticised

No one is getting to the crux of the matter. Ben White clearly has a huge problem with the England coaching set up. It's such a big issue that he is prepared to deny himself a place in the squad. All this stuff about travel, not getting picked, other players starting etc is all nonsense. He feels disrespected in some way and won't go through it again. Unless the truth comes out all speculation is pointless. The canary in the coalmine is him leaving the World Cup. Whatever triggered that event is the reason he wont go now

Why you guys have stopped doing win lose or draw?

You’ve mentioned every game in the cup bar the Newcastle one again! Is there a biased on here against Newcastle or what!?

Great show with 2 great guys and Mark, he is little :)

Side topic. Why was Win, Lose, Draw dropped 😢

Couldn't disagree more with mark on Southgate. Talking about form and shouldnt have picked henderson and others who play abroad. Like he watches the Dutch league week in week out or the Italian league. Has no idea if they are doing well or not other than when he checks on flashcore.

@okkewijntjes6640

Ай бұрын

It’s his job to know. Simple as

@MickSkitz

Ай бұрын

It's not as if he would even need to travel himself to watch the games. Southgate has staff and he can delegate. But he is so set in his way, he is lucky the talent that already exists in the squad, because he is certainly not getting the best out of them.

I just wanted to know how you feel about conceding the most goals in premier league history

Jamie MVP as always!

Best to not forget that Coventry aren't the only championship team to knock wolves out of a cup this season... #itfc

@Nippleless_Cage

Ай бұрын

Wolves against Prem Top 6: 🐺 Wolves against anyone else: 🐩