“It was a CLEAR PEN!?” Heated Liverpool vs Man City Reaction | TFFI 27

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Wow. What a title race this is! Ben Foster is joined by Mark Goldbridge and Dave Watson to break down all the action from an action-packed thriller between Liverpool and Man City at Anfield on Sunday. Should Liverpool have had a last-minute penalty? Why didn’t VAR intervene?! The lads get straight into it all and what it means for the title race…
Arsenal were the real winners of the weekend as they left it late to beat Brentford 2-1 and move to the top of the table! Kai Havertz headed in the winner for Mikel Arteta’s side but should he have been sent off for a dive earlier in the game? And the lads also break down that Aaron Ramsdale mistake before debating where he should go if he leaves Arsenal this summer!
Plus:
🔴 Did John McGinn deserve a red card?!
🤔 Is Alejandro Garnacho Player of the Year?
☀️ What happens at warm weather training camps?
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:45 Liverpool 1-1 Man City
2:36 Should Liverpool have had a penalty?!
8:51 The Man City goal was STRAIGHT out of Watto’s Handbook!
12:09 That Liverpool goal…
13:38 Arsenal with a LAST minute winner! Should it have counted?
15:10 Aaron Ramsdale REACTING well!
19:34 Spurs FLEW past Aston Villa!
20:50 Did John McGinn deserve a red card?
22:20 Manchester United getting a BIG win!!
25:56 Are Everton lacking FIREPOWER?
28:23 How IMPORTANT is a warm weather training camp mid season?!
30:08 Manchester United and their “NEW” Stadium…
33:18 Luton are SURVIVING!
35:55 Tom Cleverley and his NEW Watford Role!
38:09 The Football Fill-in Quiz

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  • @thatsfootball
    @thatsfootball2 ай бұрын

    Title Race is becoming a sham let's be honest. VAR think they're a team in the league

  • @kieranm2514

    @kieranm2514

    2 ай бұрын

    It wasn’t a pen stop crying about the refs Brent

  • @SuperYannick63

    @SuperYannick63

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kieranm2514do you think you‘re clever for calling him his real name?

  • @tabb5818

    @tabb5818

    2 ай бұрын

    Not VARs fault. VAR only highlight clear and obvious and Doku did touch the ball first. If the ref gave it they wouldn’t overturn it. Blame the ref.

  • @Robert_Blair

    @Robert_Blair

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@tabb5818 Was it a clear and obvious error when VAR got Hooper to upgrade a yellow card to a red card when Curtis Jones got the ball first and rolled into Bissouma's ankle? That was rhetorical, I do not expect critical thought from you.

  • @BhajanMan

    @BhajanMan

    2 ай бұрын

    Michael Oliver recently traveled to the UAE to referee a game and was paid by the same people who own Manchester City. This raises concerns about a conflict of interest, as he may be inclined to avoid decisions that could upset his paymasters.

  • @niiadjeisowah621
    @niiadjeisowah6212 ай бұрын

    One thing that almost all these pundits are forgetting is that a penalty was called against Liverpool against Crystal Palace almost 2 mins after the fact. VAR continued to look at the incident until they found something and asked the referee to go look at it. It is very atrocious for these stooges to not ask the ref to go to the monitor.

  • @YinYangReshiram

    @YinYangReshiram

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s a very good point you made there

  • @BhajanMan

    @BhajanMan

    2 ай бұрын

    Michael Oliver recently traveled to the UAE to referee a game and was paid by the same people who own Manchester City. This raises concerns about a conflict of interest, as he may be inclined to avoid decisions that could upset his paymasters.

  • @KopJustin

    @KopJustin

    2 ай бұрын

    They really want City to win the title ..I have never seen a city "goal" chalked off ..have never seen City affected by VAR almost on a game by game basis ..had that been City peno would have been given ..also 115 charges will only be heard AFTER Pep's contract runs out ..not a coincidence

  • @hystaric_3013

    @hystaric_3013

    2 ай бұрын

    Utd got one after both teams were in their dressing rooms after the ref blew the FT whistle. Both teams have to come back out to watch Utd score that penalty. All these excuses for the call being in the 98th minute is just a joke.

  • @wilseph1

    @wilseph1

    2 ай бұрын

    For something that obvious, it's amusing Michael Owen won't call that out with Webb.

  • @roshi98
    @roshi982 ай бұрын

    Doku made contact with the ball after it glanced off Mac Allister's chest, so he didn't even get first contact. Combined with how high his boot was it's a nailed on pen. I can't even believe it's being debated.

  • @matthewmccartney

    @matthewmccartney

    2 ай бұрын

    💯

  • @NiklasMJ
    @NiklasMJ2 ай бұрын

    As an Arsenal supporter, i was fuming the instant he hit mac allister cuz i knew it was a pen, when the ref didn't blow i was baffled he didn't see it but knew it was so obvious that it would be called by VAR.. i was dead wrong and even though i really really wanted a draw i actually got mad seeing this level of incompetence as it could happen to any and all of us.

  • @KasperK-su9oz

    @KasperK-su9oz

    2 ай бұрын

    It can and will happen to all of us, except Man City. Liverpool or Arsenal HAS to win the league! We just have to!

  • @bobuk161

    @bobuk161

    2 ай бұрын

    Man city will pip us both by a point or two, because unlike Arsenal and Livery, they never get bad calls

  • @TheCzechLad_

    @TheCzechLad_

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely spot on. It can and will happen to a club near you, me and every other football fan. Absolute joke

  • @sethwilliams3118
    @sethwilliams31182 ай бұрын

    Im a United fan but my favorite player to watch this season has been Endo. He keeps it simple and does it right. I love players like thar

  • @flynnster00707

    @flynnster00707

    2 ай бұрын

    Clear instructions & expectations from the manager and coaching team massively contribute to that

  • @dillonsiv

    @dillonsiv

    2 ай бұрын

    Very underrated player/signing imo

  • @ynwa3573

    @ynwa3573

    2 ай бұрын

    He sure reminded you of Park.

  • @Sanchezzi90

    @Sanchezzi90

    2 ай бұрын

    Same, such a tidy and composed midfielder. Reminded me of Carrick when he was in his prime

  • @daniellekelli6265

    @daniellekelli6265

    2 ай бұрын

    Simple?? Our bro Endo makes it look simple!

  • @nvgirl1807
    @nvgirl18072 ай бұрын

    The best of all is that model of integrity Kyle Walker praising the ref for 'not crumbling ' at Anfield he just forgot to add 'and giving us what we bought '

  • @kiweping5

    @kiweping5

    2 ай бұрын

    The ironic thing is since the introduction of VAR City and United have each been given double the amount at their grounds as what Liverpool have been given at anfield

  • @dylanwyatt-brown3624

    @dylanwyatt-brown3624

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@kiweping5don't mention that mate it's not the narrative people wanna listen to aha

  • @adhdave

    @adhdave

    2 ай бұрын

    Cheque complete

  • @SriGutta

    @SriGutta

    2 ай бұрын

    No need to slag off city for Ref's errors. As a Liverpool fan, I'll take it on the chin and believe our lads will still win. I would rather every fan point out the mistake and hold the refs accountable.

  • @dylanwyatt-brown3624

    @dylanwyatt-brown3624

    2 ай бұрын

    @SriGutta if you wanna support cheats then go ahead... I'm not

  • @darrenbudgen966
    @darrenbudgen9662 ай бұрын

    They need to release the audio for that kung fu kick madness, corruption at its finest.

  • @botstik3877

    @botstik3877

    2 ай бұрын

    They’ll have a week to re-record it

  • @TYLOTYLOTYLO
    @TYLOTYLOTYLO2 ай бұрын

    Michael Oliver is on their wagebill. Its a fucking joke

  • @kevinsanchez7822

    @kevinsanchez7822

    2 ай бұрын

    UAE Corruption un the premier league, Manchester Cheaty Out

  • @olavjorvik94

    @olavjorvik94

    2 ай бұрын

    Worst thing is pre-VAR, Oliver was to me, by far the best ref in the league. I’m a Liverpool fan, but I watch about 7 or 8 PL games each gameweek. And he was just so solid, game in game out. Since VAR came about a few years ago, he’s just dropped off massively. VAR is just a big, sloppy mess anyways. They can no longer seem to work together as one refereeing unit, like they could when they were only 4. I’m not saying it has to go, but changes MUST come…

  • @paulie-g

    @paulie-g

    2 ай бұрын

    @@olavjorvik94 It's not that Oliver has got worse with the introduction of VAR, it's that he got magically, entirely coincidentally worse in Citeh games (and in their favour) since he's been going to UAE to ref for astronomical fees

  • @joeensor1772
    @joeensor17722 ай бұрын

    Ngl wouldn't surprise me in 10 years VAR gets caught for rigging results

  • @TheMrClutchy

    @TheMrClutchy

    2 ай бұрын

    Why is it only rigging when a decision goes in cities favour? Did we rig it last season so United could beat us with an offside goal?

  • @lardmandan9285

    @lardmandan9285

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheMrClutchythere’s no way you’re comparing a game from last season that had no effect on you winning the league at all, to a possibly detrimental title deciding game… pillock.

  • @adhdave

    @adhdave

    2 ай бұрын

    The exact referee team in the Liverpool City game routinely get gigs in UAE. It's not even hidden. Blatant corruption

  • @saloman8884

    @saloman8884

    2 ай бұрын

    Caught by who everyone is in on it

  • @jefepeeps4308

    @jefepeeps4308

    2 ай бұрын

    I hope it doesn't take that long to uncover it

  • @tdlovestrains
    @tdlovestrains2 ай бұрын

    The worst thing is the bloke in VAR for liverpool vs man city was referring in the championship as he did something wrong.

  • @BhajanMan

    @BhajanMan

    2 ай бұрын

    Michael Oliver recently traveled to the UAE to referee a game and was paid by the same people who own Manchester City. This raises concerns about a conflict of interest, as he may be inclined to avoid decisions that could upset his paymasters.

  • @generalsharkey
    @generalsharkey2 ай бұрын

    In answer to Mark's question about, what do you do after all the poor decisions. As a Liverpool fan, you look at the game and realize that Liverpool are the only team that can consistently upset the "best team in Europe", who continue to compete without national sponsors. You can stick your purchased titles, we are, and continue to be a proper football club.

  • @robertbrown6060

    @robertbrown6060

    2 ай бұрын

    A rather smug and deluded view. ‘National sponsors’ so that’s the Liverpool narrative is it? Let’s face it Liverpool are hardly poor are they? And this fine bastion for everything that’s good and proper we’re quite happy to bugger of to a European Super League initially. Plus FFP works quite nicely in Liverpools favour and maintains the status quo for the cabal at the top of the PL that other clubs aren’t allowed to spend money in order to break into. Have you heard of Schadenfreude? As a Forest supporter I’m glad to see hypocrisy is alive and well amongst some Liverpool supporters. I doubt very much that you would be critical of Paul Tierney last week. Every fan has a right to support their club, but to suggest that Liverpool is a ‘proper’ club and somehow Man City is not promulgates the myth that Liverpool are somehow different. It’s all very amusing.

  • @alexischristou3266
    @alexischristou32662 ай бұрын

    What these lads are actually missing and have not noticed as have most people is that Macallister actually gets to the ball first. When you slow it down you can see the ball hits the upper right of his body the ball changes trajectory then Doku goes in with his kick studs up hits the ball whilst following through with his kick into Alexis's midrift. You would need to slow the youtube match video down to 0.2 speed to see it but clearly visible when it happens.

  • @TheLibermania

    @TheLibermania

    2 ай бұрын

    What you don't realize is that a foot shouldn't be almost at chest high. Bring Zlatan back, we can play Taekwondo ball then.

  • @alexischristou3266

    @alexischristou3266

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheLibermania You do realize the whole point of my comment is to state that Liverpool should have had a penalty, so I clearly I do agree.

  • @TheLibermania

    @TheLibermania

    2 ай бұрын

    @@alexischristou3266 English is not my native language. Maybe i mixed something up. I apologize.

  • @alexischristou3266

    @alexischristou3266

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheLibermaniaNp

  • @drewsample9576

    @drewsample9576

    2 ай бұрын

    If you need to slow the match speed down to .2 then it’s not exactly clear and obvious is it?

  • @DenDave_
    @DenDave_2 ай бұрын

    All the points people use to argue why it shouldnt be a penalty are just complete bollocks. People say Doku got the ball, he did not, Mac got there first. Even if he did, reckless endangerment is a foul no matter if you get the ball or not. They say the followthrough or contact was unintentional, it is still reckless endangerment, and if that somehow is an argument then why did Curtis Jones get a red card when his contact was unintentional too? This was the most stonewall penalty you'll ever see, and the fact that the VAR didnt even let the ref have a second look is completely insane.

  • @robertcooper457

    @robertcooper457

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm sure the refs were happy with a draw and didn't want to make it any harder for City than it needed to be 😅

  • @lewisramsay1396
    @lewisramsay13962 ай бұрын

    The worst thing about var is they say they dont want it to re referee the game, but thats what it is supposed to do to do so, imo they even make all that too confusing for themselves

  • @lawrencebaker1811
    @lawrencebaker18112 ай бұрын

    As a Liverpool fan we have to take it in our stride and hope it spurs the players on to do even better as it has before with other decisions. That's all we can do.

  • @hystaric_3013
    @hystaric_30132 ай бұрын

    Ben Foster, the problem isn't the tool, it's the men behind the tool. Bundesliga have no problems with VAR because of their professionalism and transparency. Even Eredivisie have better transparency than the PL. VAR is supposed to help the on field ref to make the right decisions, instead we have this senseless laws that PREVENT them from helping the on field ref. Lastly, the refereeing team for that game is the exact same team that went to UAE for their little gig.

  • @supersuede6493

    @supersuede6493

    2 ай бұрын

    Not true, I watch bundesliga every week and there's at least been 4-5 decisions from the refs and VAR that has been literal wtf moments

  • @alexjmurphy2145
    @alexjmurphy21452 ай бұрын

    As a Liverpool fan, I'd genuinely respect the ones saying its not a pen if their reasoning was simply because they hate Liverpool, don't want them to win anything etc etc etc...... But as a football fan, the ones saying its not a pen then try validating that beliefe based on footballing reasons just look idiotic imo and don't understand the game.

  • @justinjose2267

    @justinjose2267

    2 ай бұрын

    All of their comments against are actually false. Not one of their arguments for it not being a penalty have any weight because penalties and cards have been given for less, and been less clear. Macallister was not only there first, but it doesn't matter if he was there first or not. Still a high boot with clear studs out. Intention doesn't matter, softness or not doesn't matter. Time doesn't matter as several times this season teams have gotten penalties or calls back 2 minutes after the fact. United even had one where both teams were already in the locker room. It's all just bullocks and corruption. Michael Oliver used to be one of the best but he and his team are bought out. I don't think he should be a ref in the league anymore, but especially during city games due to conflict of interest.

  • @SweetRyGuy
    @SweetRyGuy2 ай бұрын

    I played CB at a high level and I disagree that goal is not McCallisters fault

  • @CardiacKatz
    @CardiacKatz2 ай бұрын

    no fucking way someone said kyle walker is the best rb in pl history that is a fucking joke

  • @em_si

    @em_si

    2 ай бұрын

    It's not just one person, most modern fans I've heard think that too.

  • @JulieShaji-us5oj

    @JulieShaji-us5oj

    Ай бұрын

    And why isn’t he?

  • @rixstar8757
    @rixstar87572 ай бұрын

    Should be a challenge system, like tennis. Managers have 3 challenges to the on-field decision that go to VAR. Make its use tactical. Make its involvement minimal.

  • @justinjose2267

    @justinjose2267

    2 ай бұрын

    I concur. Should be one challenge per half and if you win your challenge you can challenge again. With VAR it wouldn't take very long for them to call these challenges. Most certainly not nearly as long as an NFL timeout

  • @lfcyeezus
    @lfcyeezus2 ай бұрын

    FA's ruling on high boot (paraphrased): "The high boot is defined by the foot being in a dangerous place (told as above the waist for referees) and is a foul, regardless of whether the ball is touched or not" Clear pen

  • @ThermalWarrior
    @ThermalWarrior2 ай бұрын

    Great content love this trio!

  • @jeffbeasley8283
    @jeffbeasley82832 ай бұрын

    Best trio on the best football review show in the world. Up the Fill In Up the Fozcast!

  • @Hhammer
    @Hhammer2 ай бұрын

    Some really good questions Jamie!

  • @samprosser
    @samprosser2 ай бұрын

    1. It's not uncharacteristic for Ederson. 2. Arsenal are not "continuing to grind out these wins", after multiple high scoring games, the highest GD in the league and the most Clean Sheets. 3. Everton are not one of the highest on XG, they are mid table, exactly where they would be if they didn't have the point deductions (Higher than UTD though).

  • @PPA625

    @PPA625

    Ай бұрын

    2) Arsenal have had more blowouts, but also had to grind out more close wins. Arsenal won 9 games by 1 goal compared to City (7) and Liverpool (4). 15 of Liverpool's 19 wins were by 2 goals or more. Only 11 of Arsenals 20 wins were by 2+ goals. That's the definition of grinding out wins.

  • @Petersworld77
    @Petersworld772 ай бұрын

    I asked the former professional referee Keith Hackett and he said it was a nailed on penalty. Good enough for me.

  • @paulcasey4282
    @paulcasey42822 ай бұрын

    Havertz should have been on the pitch because the first yellow wasn’t a yellow. You can’t say var should intervene to give a yellow if it can’t intervene to take one away. And if you do think the first one was a yellow then you must also think that you can’t put hands on players at all meaning Trossard should have had a penalty. This would have put Arsenal 2-1 up and meant Havertz wouldn’t have had to dive to try to cheat a penalty

  • @timmy5876
    @timmy58762 ай бұрын

    when it comes to the doku challenge they’ve come out and said the reason it wasn’t a penalty is cus he’s got the ball first. You simply cannot get the ball then follow through studs up on any part of a player, curtis jones got a red for standing on bissoumas foot accidentally so surely studs up into someone’s chest is the same? i was more thinking about if it was a red card or not cus i was certain it was a pen

  • @iansmith663
    @iansmith6632 ай бұрын

    Great content as always! I can't see how a pen wasn't given!

  • @brianwang4828
    @brianwang48282 ай бұрын

    Mcginn's kick was definitely a red

  • @jaysond4791
    @jaysond47912 ай бұрын

    Am I crazy for immediately assuming that McGinns tackle was obviously going to be a red? I really didn't think there was another way to look at it.

  • @braustein89

    @braustein89

    2 ай бұрын

    Their reason for it not being a red is “he tried to injure him but failed” seriously wtf hahah

  • @jaysond4791

    @jaysond4791

    2 ай бұрын

    I genuinely thought it was a joke at first when they said it, I'm trying to imagine a another situation like it where I wouldn't think it was a red. He came blazing across the pitch, like a fucking ballistic missile and just axed Udogies legs. If he had just clipped the trailing leg and put his hands up, then yeah sure just a yellow. But he just straight Johnny Lawrence'd him.

  • @CostanzG

    @CostanzG

    2 ай бұрын

    Their comments sound even more ridiculous if you remember how they were shouting for a red card for Havertz after his tackle against Newcastle in early November. These two tackles by McGinn and Havertz were very very similar.

  • @stephenbartlett2238
    @stephenbartlett22382 ай бұрын

    If either player had been Casemiro he’d have got a red ! Either for the high foot or for running into the foot looking for a penalty 🤔

  • @WesleyCotts

    @WesleyCotts

    2 ай бұрын

    if that was Granit shaka too straight red

  • @dmitrikhutko7729

    @dmitrikhutko7729

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly what I said during the game! Refs are too biased

  • @moze2324
    @moze23242 ай бұрын

    I just love our team atm (liverpool) Endo, Mac Allister were magnificent and we completely dominated the second half and it's absolutely a pen

  • @David1991.

    @David1991.

    2 ай бұрын

    Nunez dive like a clown to get a penalty.

  • @shatterfall_hunted8236
    @shatterfall_hunted82362 ай бұрын

    I fully understand the means of what Ben said about the Doku-Mac Alister situation but yeah when someone goes full studs up in this manner its a straight pen, btw the fact that Mac Allister turned makes it worse for him since he could either dislocated part of his ribcage with even minor contanct or worse have the studs dig into his liver (assuming he turned with his left side)

  • @JackHennessey51
    @JackHennessey512 ай бұрын

    No mention on the awful decisions in the west ham game… onside goal ruled out & a clear handball not given for a penalty in the last moment of the game

  • @AFCbirmsy
    @AFCbirmsy2 ай бұрын

    Ben 'spurs' Foster, straight into red card discussion before discussing the game. Talk on the pens, and the angle of the 'dive' where havertz takes contact. Correct answer was too soft for a pen, too much for a dive. Easy to answer if you consider everything.

  • @Yaqoot

    @Yaqoot

    2 ай бұрын

    It's Watto who I can't stand, the guy doesn't have an ounce of ball knowledge outside of old school goalkeeping Bro hears the words Kai Havertz and almost shouts "SHOULD HE HAVE BEEN ON THE PITCH THOUGH" - yes mate if you open your eyes you can see how bullshit the first yellow was

  • @matthewmccartney

    @matthewmccartney

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Yaqoothe has more ball knowledge that you tho

  • @archiewall124

    @archiewall124

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Yaqoothe’s a coach. No one is listening to you.

  • @AFCbirmsy

    @AFCbirmsy

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Yaqoothe's not my character, and I hear what you're saying he's very old school. I do think he has good insight at times, just clearly has his biases, gives major 'small club' energy. We all have something to add to these conversations, I just like to see all sides represented well.

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut15152 ай бұрын

    What impressed me most was the way Liverpool were pummelling City like a Young Mike Tyson smelling blood. City looked terrified at times, they didn't look like they could last another five minutes at the end, they'd been run so ragged. If I was one of the teams both have to face in the run-in, I'd be more scared of Liverpool, tbh. Seeing how Liverpool negated De Bruyne so effectively, I'd have half a hope of making them struggle, especially now they've got Ortega for however many games. I think Liverpool have the easier run-in of the top three, but this is the Premier League, and stranger things have happened, I can't see Spurs making any great leaps but it'd be nice to see them in the CL again at least.

  • @alpha_male9623
    @alpha_male96232 ай бұрын

    These 3 are up their with Jamie, Micah & Thierry. Love it

  • @javelletaylor2659
    @javelletaylor26592 ай бұрын

    Excellent Boyz!!

  • @rb8946
    @rb89462 ай бұрын

    Just imagine how much air time the last minute handball not given by VAR at the London stadium would have got if it was in the City vs Liv game!

  • @danielkepinski688
    @danielkepinski6882 ай бұрын

    Some of my clients are citeh fans and even they said it was a penalty 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @seyong01my
    @seyong01my2 ай бұрын

    Still the best football show out there, and it's best when we have the original trio if Ben mark and wotto

  • @yobaafett
    @yobaafett2 ай бұрын

    Odegaard "handball" was a slip and the ball hit his supporting arm. Understand the rules

  • @rickynorwood7229

    @rickynorwood7229

    2 ай бұрын

    What a load of crap, even the arsenal players said it was a pen

  • @yobaafett

    @yobaafett

    2 ай бұрын

    @@rickynorwood7229 I wouldn't rely on anyone else's opinion when you can clearly see what happened

  • @matthewmccartney

    @matthewmccartney

    2 ай бұрын

    @@yobaafett yeah you can see what happens, it’s clearly a pen

  • @joshcurtis8129
    @joshcurtis81292 ай бұрын

    Ben as a goalkeeper how have you not noticed Edison didn’t actually hurt the leg he kicked thingy with instead he hurt what seems to be his knee after he landed on it after the kick

  • @botstik3877

    @botstik3877

    2 ай бұрын

    Because he’s a keeper not a physio

  • @DeathsnipezCSGO
    @DeathsnipezCSGO2 ай бұрын

    Watching the match I thought the reason they were deciding if it was either a yellow or red card. But to not even call it a foul is an absolute joke

  • @GeorgeLista
    @GeorgeLista2 ай бұрын

    11:21 not the same thing at all… one was an instinctual reaction to a circumstance, the other was a pre-worked set piece.

  • @ipohwalla
    @ipohwalla2 ай бұрын

    Is Ake not in the same blocking position as Endo was for the disallowed goal from the carabao cup? So how was this not called offside… corner position different than a free kick?

  • @battleman6911

    @battleman6911

    2 ай бұрын

    You can’t be offsides on a corner. The carabao cup disallowed goal was on a free kick

  • @rajkaranvirk7525

    @rajkaranvirk7525

    2 ай бұрын

    @ipohwalla You can be offside in a free kick, and you CANNOT be for a corner.

  • @em_si

    @em_si

    2 ай бұрын

    @@rajkaranvirk7525 You've just repeated what they said..

  • @rajkaranvirk7525

    @rajkaranvirk7525

    2 ай бұрын

    @@em_si That was a mistake, I was responding to the original commenter

  • @liljimmmy3294
    @liljimmmy32942 ай бұрын

    A little interesting that there was no mention of Garnacho rolling around like he’d broken his leg and then sitting up and celebrating the penalty being given.

  • @ElEmElEkv13
    @ElEmElEkv132 ай бұрын

    The goalie bias is strong with this one. Dokus high foot is foul everywhere including the penalty area, but Edersons flying tackle with both feet in the air, studs up is a foul everywhere except the penalty area? You can't say it's a foul everywhere else on the pitch while only wanting one of those 2 pens given...

  • @thecremeegg
    @thecremeegg2 ай бұрын

    Mention Havertz "dive" (there was actually some contact), but don't mention the fact Brentford spent the whole game diving and pretending to be injured. Both Arsenal vs Brentford games are in the top 5 lowest ball in play matches in the Premier League this season. They're pathetic

  • @brianwilhelmsen8663
    @brianwilhelmsen86632 ай бұрын

    Can someone tell me. What is a high kick?

  • @bhvillaman4401
    @bhvillaman44012 ай бұрын

    20:19 Hello Mr Editor 😂

  • @paulk8888
    @paulk88882 ай бұрын

    Liverpool with one first choice player in their back 5, no Salah for an hour, few options in midfield while City were full strength. That for me is the better way to look at the game. We can all say it should have been a penalty etc, but I'd rather look at the positives. When do you see KDB subbed as he is having no effect on a game? How often do City have less possession? When have you seen Rhodri so ineffective? When do you see Pep flustered? As a Liverpool fan to me that is what we should be looking at. Refs will continue to make mistakes, VAR is inept and needs rethought. It felt like a defeat in the end but once you watch it again and look for the positives then it could be the point that wins the title for Liverpool. Don't fall for YT pundits looking for clicks and for people to fall out with each other in the comments. Best of luck to all supporters of all clubs in the last 10 games, I hope you are as proud of your players as I am of ours.

  • @petergoulding5671
    @petergoulding56712 ай бұрын

    I think Garnacho will get found out. His touch isnt good enough. That is the key trait for the Prem

  • @peejayq
    @peejayq2 ай бұрын

    Love the show

  • @MrNippertboy
    @MrNippertboy2 ай бұрын

    Walker is just a pace merchant

  • @PhilOCypher1
    @PhilOCypher12 ай бұрын

    I think the fact he had already awarded us a penalty (a stonewaller) went against us. Oliver thought if he awards us 2 penalties in a game ... at Anfield , he'd never hear the end of it .

  • @lfclfc5683
    @lfclfc56832 ай бұрын

    Goldbridge is always spot on when he talks about referees. Unbiased opinion and doesn't pull any punches. Great for youtube.

  • @TheMrClutchy

    @TheMrClutchy

    2 ай бұрын

    HahHahaha

  • @noelgustafsson9772

    @noelgustafsson9772

    2 ай бұрын

    exept everytime he talks about united desitions then he is the most biast man on earth haha

  • @williamhobbs4202

    @williamhobbs4202

    2 ай бұрын

    Not like he’s now affiliated with United so he’s completely biased

  • @edrahimovic

    @edrahimovic

    2 ай бұрын

    @@williamhobbs4202 no need to reply to the other comment, I can now see you are a man with a weird agenda against Goldbridge, have a lovely day

  • @williamhobbs4202

    @williamhobbs4202

    2 ай бұрын

    @@edrahimovic Weird agenda about fans blaming the ref for making a good call instead of the players for missing 50 chances

  • @ISB021
    @ISB0212 ай бұрын

    release the audio

  • @billybrowne8013
    @billybrowne80132 ай бұрын

    No mention of Sander Berge catching the ball and no penalty ??

  • @stanleywtang
    @stanleywtang2 ай бұрын

    The thing is Macalister touched the ball 1st, it's penalty all day long

  • @KelanBrowneMusic
    @KelanBrowneMusic2 ай бұрын

    Remember when the full time whistle was blown in a Man United game and then they gave a penalty for them to win the game. There is 110% an agenda against Liverpool winning the league. It’s beyond a joke and for the sake of football, not just Liverpool fans, we need to stand up and force a change and proper consequences for officials with major mistakes.

  • @peacok01
    @peacok012 ай бұрын

    You’re all wrong. The referee for the penalty decided on field that he got to the ball. His question to VAR was did he make contact with ball, yes! Case closed for the referee. But, stone wall penalty.

  • @adhdave

    @adhdave

    2 ай бұрын

    What is all that waffle? It was a pen, VAR didn't give it, and the referees take paid gigs in the UAE. It's corruption, plain and simple

  • @sr6424
    @sr64242 ай бұрын

    What needs to happen about VAR - when a bad call is made, the manager who has had the advantage needs to speak out! There are obvious reasons why they don’t. As soon as they do things will change!

  • @eaganadams3314

    @eaganadams3314

    2 ай бұрын

    They get fined for putting the integrity of the game into disrepute

  • @ianfinnity2732

    @ianfinnity2732

    2 ай бұрын

    Good luck with that!

  • @sr6424

    @sr6424

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ianfinnity2732 it’s never going to happen. That’s why I don’t think anyone in the game has a real problem with VAR!

  • @jeffreyr3056
    @jeffreyr30562 ай бұрын

    And he was in the air making that challenge

  • @SegunLawal
    @SegunLawal2 ай бұрын

    VAR has affected this season more than ever before.

  • @adhdave

    @adhdave

    2 ай бұрын

    VAR hasn't. Corrupt criminal refs using it have. They literally get paid reffing gigs in the UAE pro league. It's so obviously corruption

  • @samdblythe3787
    @samdblythe37872 ай бұрын

    That segment on Spurs is absolutely criminal.. not one mention of their performance as a team or individuals such as Johnson & Sarr. Pathetic.

  • @CardiacKatz

    @CardiacKatz

    2 ай бұрын

    they played 11v10 lol

  • @samdblythe3787

    @samdblythe3787

    2 ай бұрын

    @@CardiacKatz 2-0 up before the red card on 65 mins but nice one buddy!

  • @blakenewton9536
    @blakenewton95362 ай бұрын

    There never gunna give that penalty in the last seconds of the game

  • @miketipping4113
    @miketipping41132 ай бұрын

    Also for city’s goal Mac was blocked, 2 weeks ago in the league cup final liverpool had a goal ruled out because endo made a block from an offside position how is that not exactly the same where’s the constancy

  • @CamoDrako

    @CamoDrako

    2 ай бұрын

    You can't be offside from a corner

  • @steve_ire321
    @steve_ire3212 ай бұрын

    They often say the "table does not lie". Yes. Yes it does.

  • @benhodgetts5554
    @benhodgetts55542 ай бұрын

    The whole explanation of Mac allister putting himself into doku is exactly why it isn’t a penalty for me

  • @mtbrady2612
    @mtbrady26122 ай бұрын

    They only call the ref to the screen if the var are telling the ref the decision needs to be changed, that’s why when they go to the screen the decision is always changed.

  • @janniknielsen9292

    @janniknielsen9292

    2 ай бұрын

    They are giving the referee to have a better look at it. Sometimes they rig it, like they did showcasing a still picture at the worst moment when Curtis Jones slipped over the ball and landed into the shin of a Spurs player to manipulate the perception.

  • @justinjose2267

    @justinjose2267

    2 ай бұрын

    That's not actually true. It doesn't always get changed following looking at it again.

  • @johnharrison3671
    @johnharrison36712 ай бұрын

    @7:38 they are looking AT their villas/Cash/cars they were giftied in abu dhabi.

  • @SpecialP5
    @SpecialP52 ай бұрын

    This talk on Rambo not going into mid table is silly. What top club would take him. He can potentially go to Chelsea, which is midtable club by the way. And or Newcastle as he is clear of their GKS, but I doubt they sell pope. No top team will have him,

  • @ruddo1970

    @ruddo1970

    Ай бұрын

    Do Arsenal confirm top 4 without the points saved by Rambo last season? One of the players of the season last 2 seasons as well. Short term memory perhaps...

  • @SpecialP5

    @SpecialP5

    Ай бұрын

    @@ruddo1970 he lost points as well. He is a decent GK. But what top club takes him my guy?

  • @lost1head
    @lost1head2 ай бұрын

    Such a weird argument against VAR from Foster. Of course we would remember. I still remember Arsenal vs Liverpool quarterfinal in 2008. "VAR is bad because referee didn't use VAR". Like, what? If anything that episode is proof VAR is needed and should be used more.

  • @ruddo1970

    @ruddo1970

    Ай бұрын

    A bad decision made back when officials didn't have the benefit of a 2nd look can be forgiven even if not forgotten. To have it and not be called to use it when a pen call was so obvious introduces an inconsistency that proves why it is better not to have it at all. The prob that will always exist with VAR is that it is making so many decisions on grey areas in the game, unlike hawkeye in the tennis or even goal line tech where it can't be argued that the decision is correct or not. Its black or white every time! The benefit of no VAR is no time lost. The amount of decisions made that remain controversial despite VAR and the time lost to come up with a controversial decision is frustrating for fans and players alike!

  • @robertcooper457
    @robertcooper4572 ай бұрын

    Are West Ham, Burnley, Bournmouth, Sheffield Utd, Brighton and Nottingham Forest no longer in the Premier League?

  • @mickbanner
    @mickbanner2 ай бұрын

    So glad the huge game for 4th position got such a extensive breakdown😂. Clearly upset Villa lost and zero game analysis.

  • @dean8793
    @dean87932 ай бұрын

    7:45 great point

  • @310siddharth
    @310siddharth2 ай бұрын

    IF we lose the title this season. If. We know why. How does this happen to us all the time? 😅

  • @kylegray4402
    @kylegray44022 ай бұрын

    Is Ake not influencing the defender from an offside position just like Endo did when the goal against Chelsea was ruled out?

  • @stephenbarry7967

    @stephenbarry7967

    2 ай бұрын

    Liverpool fan here. No, you can’t be offside from a corner

  • @kylegray4402

    @kylegray4402

    2 ай бұрын

    @@stephenbarry7967 thank you for the clarification 👍🏼

  • @ROLPOLOLL
    @ROLPOLOLL2 ай бұрын

    Nothing on Macallister that goal. Poor defending elsewhere. Alexis was MOTM

  • @dancorbett9700
    @dancorbett97002 ай бұрын

    Funny how this week Mark says the Doku one is a def penalty because if it happened anywhere else on the pitch it's a foul. Yet during the Manchester derby, Rodri can get rugby tackled to the ground, and a penalty given and Mark has a hissy fit about it.

  • @infallibl
    @infallibl2 ай бұрын

    Didn't Liverpool have a goal disallowed for blocking off a player on a corner, when VVD scored against Chelsea?

  • @eaganadams3314

    @eaganadams3314

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah this is match fixing

  • @battleman6911

    @battleman6911

    2 ай бұрын

    Wasn’t a corner, it was a free kick. The Stones goal was a clean goal.

  • @infallibl

    @infallibl

    2 ай бұрын

    @@battleman6911 Endo got the disallowed goal for "blocking".. Less than what AKI is doing.. Deffo a clean goal by Stones by the way..

  • @battleman6911

    @battleman6911

    2 ай бұрын

    @@infallibl the reason Endo got called for blocking, was because he was offsides on the free kick. Because you cannot be offsides on the corner, Ake blocking off McAllister is not an offside player influencing the play.

  • @SuperAfrolex
    @SuperAfrolex2 ай бұрын

    Hopefully Eze can go to the euros, if rashford goes ahead of him (which let's br honest wouldn't be shocking with Southgate) I'd feel bad for him as Eze has been decent this season

  • @mrc8985
    @mrc89852 ай бұрын

    Thanks Pratbridge, Pratben and Pratwatto x

  • @TamrielicScholar
    @TamrielicScholar2 ай бұрын

    I wonder if Mark says "I'm a United fan" enough times he'll finally believe it 😂

  • @nerfcombo
    @nerfcombo2 ай бұрын

    Will bournemouth ever get mentioned again

  • @Yourfuckinslow

    @Yourfuckinslow

    2 ай бұрын

    Why would they? Your 13th doing absolutely nothing meanwhile it’s the most exciting title race in years and one of the more competitive years for European places. I wonder why Bournemouth don’t get talked about🤨

  • @danbivio
    @danbivio2 ай бұрын

    What’s happened to win, lose or draw (ps: not watch episode yet)

  • @bigfred0997
    @bigfred09972 ай бұрын

    What was the difference between VVD header in the cup final for blocking a player and disallowed, city play blocks Macalister but citys goal stood

  • @em_si

    @em_si

    2 ай бұрын

    You can't be offside from a corner so Ake's positioning is completely fine.

  • @bigfred0997

    @bigfred0997

    2 ай бұрын

    @@em_si VVD goal v Chelsea was disallowed because of one player blocking another player and in this game the same happened to Macalister, city player pushes him back a blocks Alex from getting to the front post, I have no doubt it's a great goal but so was VVD header in the cup final v Chelsea, consistency needs to be applied as I believe both were goals but the var and the ref only think one was a goal, it's nothing to do with offside buddy

  • @em_si

    @em_si

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bigfred0997 "it's nothing to do with offside buddy" - You're literally incorrect. The rule is "a player moving from, or standing in, an offside position is in the way of an opponent and interferes with the movement of the opponent towards the ball, this is an offside offence" - Endo was in an offside position when the free kick was taken, Ake was not in an offside position as you cannot be offside from a corner. You might not like it, but those are the literal rules "buddy".

  • @CoconutJewce
    @CoconutJewce2 ай бұрын

    That McGinn tackle was 100% a red card, wtf? He deliberately punts Udogie's leg out of pure frustration. You cannot do that, even if your attempt didn't result in a serious injury. We've seen reds given for much less. But, tbf, we've also seen some horrendous tackles not given as reds (Havertz's lunging slide at Burn, Nketiah's studs-up slide at whatever keeper it was, Udogie's two-footer).

  • @dollabillwill415
    @dollabillwill4152 ай бұрын

    ben got joe cole mixed up with joey barton lol

  • @rahimabdullah2876
    @rahimabdullah28762 ай бұрын

    This season is compromised. Too many VAR issues against Liverpool.

  • @allanhon
    @allanhon2 ай бұрын

    Not PK. It was McAllister's fault to bang his chest against Dokus's studs and caused his studs to hurt!!

  • @roypadgett2151
    @roypadgett21512 ай бұрын

    Same thing happend two season ago with the Rodri penalty against Everton....a clear penaly not sanctioned...It's City.

  • @rajkaranvirk7525

    @rajkaranvirk7525

    2 ай бұрын

    If that was supposed to be a penalty than Macalister who apparently touched the ball first with his arm, is that also meant to be a foul?

  • @evandipasquale9255
    @evandipasquale92552 ай бұрын

    I'm not gonna make a big deal about city's goal in the game. But I seem to remember liverpool's goal in the caraboa final ruled off because endo obstructed a defenders movement. How is what ake did to mac any different from what endo did and the goal was disallowed?

  • @rajkaranvirk7525

    @rajkaranvirk7525

    2 ай бұрын

    One was a free kick the other was a corner.

  • @evandipasquale9255

    @evandipasquale9255

    2 ай бұрын

    @@rajkaranvirk7525 so why does that matter? They're both spot kicks

  • @rajkaranvirk7525

    @rajkaranvirk7525

    2 ай бұрын

    @@evandipasquale9255 You can be offside in a free kick but you can’t be offside in a corner. Endo was offside.

  • @user-rh1iv7yp2c
    @user-rh1iv7yp2c2 ай бұрын

    Odegaard handball made no difference. They equalised pretty much straight away after it.

  • @mikewilliams4982
    @mikewilliams49822 ай бұрын

    New law high feet allowed in the box 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jhunnyx263
    @jhunnyx2632 ай бұрын

    Not going to mention the clear pen Arsenal should have had when Trossard was pulled down by his neck? That’s been given so many times this season

  • @johnlynch8947

    @johnlynch8947

    2 ай бұрын

    What game?

  • @jhunnyx263

    @jhunnyx263

    2 ай бұрын

    @@johnlynch8947 Rodri vs Man U earlier this season

  • @johnlynch8947

    @johnlynch8947

    2 ай бұрын

    @jhunnyx263 what does manu and rodri have to do with trossard who plays for Arsenal?

  • @jhunnyx263

    @jhunnyx263

    2 ай бұрын

    @@johnlynch8947 I gave an example of that exact foul happening but it being given as a pen, you asked for it so I don’t get what you are not understanding 😂

  • @em_si

    @em_si

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jhunnyx263 Think they meant which Arsenal game did the Trossard incident happen.

  • @stephennelson5488
    @stephennelson54882 ай бұрын

    Mac-alister was blocked by an off side player, the same thing liverpool had a goal ruled out for against Chelsea.

  • @benbeaton1167

    @benbeaton1167

    2 ай бұрын

    Can't be offside when the attacking player is behind the ball. Ake was not offside.

  • @em_si

    @em_si

    2 ай бұрын

    Can't be offside from corners.

  • @thesaltygamer8863
    @thesaltygamer88632 ай бұрын

    I'm 34 years old and have been a Manchester United fan since I was 4 or 5 years old. We truly need a new stadium. Old Trafford has been around for 115-116 years, via improvements and renovations, but I believe it's time to move on from the past and build a brand-new, modern stadium, just like that of Brentford, Everton, Arsenal, and other teams.

  • @onlineoaties

    @onlineoaties

    2 ай бұрын

    I totally agree with you. out with the old and in with the new.

  • @bhvillaman4401

    @bhvillaman4401

    2 ай бұрын

    Do you think they'll call it new Trafford?

  • @thesaltygamer8863

    @thesaltygamer8863

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bhvillaman4401 I'm not 100% sure what they'll call it but they need to do is make it a multi purpose arena/stadium So they could call it "The New Trafford Arena or Stadium" also once it's built they need to keep it up to date and modernised for the next 100+ years.

  • @onlineoaties

    @onlineoaties

    2 ай бұрын

    @@bhvillaman4401 90% they'll keep Trafford in it, if not they may have other names for the stadium. But I think the best name is The New Trafford Stadium or Arena.

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