Why Gamorrean Guards Had a lot More Depth Than Star Wars Fans Give Credit For
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:54 Background
3:40 Episode 1
4:17 Goons for Hire
5:24 Honor and Combat
6:14 Stupid or Misunderstood?
7:13 Episode 3
7:35 Conclusion
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I like that Boba Fett showed respect and appreciation for his Gamorrean guards that he shared his bacta tank with the one injured in the Wookie fight. Can't imagine any other employers of Gamorrean doing this.
@geetslys
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, most others would leave the guard to die
@WolfSpiritAD
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they may been more inclined to use their intelligence for the benefit of Boba as well due to the respect.
@Autisticguywithacamera
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a neat moment. Just goes to show how Fett treats his employees better.
@DrZeddy-wo5fd
Жыл бұрын
Yes!
Really happy to see Gamorreans get plot armor, as well as a leader who actually cares about their wellbeing.
@geetslys
2 жыл бұрын
The Gamorreans seems so cool now 😂
@duckbert3314
2 жыл бұрын
@@geetslys the truth is, they were always cool. just took us a while to see them as such.
@gimbatul9761
2 жыл бұрын
Plot armour you say...
@tannerbarth2380
2 жыл бұрын
This didn't age well..
@duckbert3314
2 жыл бұрын
@@tannerbarth2380 they were still present for most of the series. Which their deaths had more weight though.
I’m so happy now Gamorrean Guards are getting way more screen time. Well deserved.
@Kurama420
2 жыл бұрын
But no Gungan. There’s a hidden Sith Lord Among then. Too sus
@geetslys
2 жыл бұрын
I agree lol, I love it that they are getting screen time
@SPACEHARICE
2 жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
@DrZeddy-wo5fd
Жыл бұрын
Yes!
The whole "not sentient because they can't speak basic" argument sounds a lot like what the Empire said about the Wookiees
@girlgarde
2 жыл бұрын
The Empire just used that argument as an excuse to enslave certain species. Palpatine and those Humans who're Human supremacists were constantly finding excuses to enslave alien races and the "not sentient because they can't speak basic" argument is just one of many colourful excuses that the Empire came up with. In any event, I've always regarded the Gamorreans as sentient beings, just beings with low intelligence and obsessed with close quarter combat.
@CollinMcLean
2 жыл бұрын
You see a similar idea to many imperialist and colonialist civilizations in history. They thought of other societies or cultures as more primitive or lesser because they didn't urbanize, had more communal views of property and land, or didn't have cash based economies. It's the stereotypical view that societies are sliding scales of primitive --------> advanced, rather than the reality that, like in actual evolution, societies adapt to their pressures and needs.
@Daniel_Huffman
2 жыл бұрын
The inability to speak doesn’t make you unintelligent.
@DIEGhostfish
2 жыл бұрын
In early legends yes, but after the prequels that shifted slightly and the Empire mostly used "They helped the Jedi Coup" to justify the slavery on the Wookiees.
@dtxspeaks268
2 жыл бұрын
@@girlgarde well tbf, the gamorreans, wookies, geonosians, ewoks and sand people are very animalistic in nature and behavior compared to other sentient species like humans, namoideans, rodians, Yoda's species, gungans, twi leks, and togrutas.
It seemed to me that the Mandalorians are capable of getting along with anyone who have the warrior culture.
@fabianbulow
2 жыл бұрын
Well it would be strange for Warrior Cultured people not getting along with other like minded culture
@FalconWindblader
2 жыл бұрын
@@fabianbulow It kinda depends on where a warrior culture stand in the brutality vs honor scale actually. I wouldn't imagine a warrior culture that glorifies brutality to the point of constantly meting out needless violence & resorting to backstabbing & cheating, would be able to gain any respect from another warrior culture that values fair fights, prudence & honor. Fortunately in the case of Gamorreans & Mandalorians, both at least have similar notions of honor, despite having very different opinions on how to go about dishing out violence.
I had a trading card about a Gamorrean Guard. In the description box were just 3 words; Big, Strong, Dumb. My Bro and I laughed very hard over it.
Liking how The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett is showing more depth with the Tuskens, Rancors, and Gamorreans. Also can we agree that the Jawa's are the real jerks of Tatooine
@ThunderrRoar
2 жыл бұрын
Oh most definitely! Devious little tech goblins! Hoard and pilfer, then sell it back!
I call my pug my Gamorrean Guard. He loves it.
Mad respect for the Bacon Bros. Loyalty is hard to find in the Outer Rim
I personally always loved them. Growing up having been shown the OG films and then the prequals as they came out in theater. I always loved these Pig People. They look cool.
@geetslys
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, as a kid they were definitely interesting to say the least
I always liked the character of "Piggy" from the X-wing series of books. He was a college professor with an internal translator o let him speak basic. I love when there is a character that breaks the assumed mold.
@I_Love_Quokkas
2 жыл бұрын
In later books didn’t they expand on him to explain his increased intelligence and translator were from Imperial experimentation?
@toomanyaccounts
2 жыл бұрын
@@I_Love_Quokkas yeah he was part of an imperial project that did a lot of horrific experimentation. this project was the reason why the belief that an ewok could pilot a starfighter was believed which was a ruse that a Wraith squadron pilot had done to conceal his identity. the tale of this actually led ewoks to be put in the project with the result an ewok became a pilot.
@DIEGhostfish
2 жыл бұрын
@@I_Love_Quokkas That was in his very first book. THe need for a translator slightly contradicts Barbara Hambly's Children of the Jedi where brainwashed Gammoreans could speak basic (But were barely any smarter) And his sadness that he'd never find a mate are a bit weird because gain in Hambly's books the Females actually were smart enough to in one case even captain a ship.
@DIEGhostfish
2 жыл бұрын
@@toomanyaccounts I was under the impression Ewoks were already in the project. Zsinj asked Melvar "Have we lost any Ewoks" and Melvar says "No." Not "We never HAD any Ewoks, but we can go get some"
@toomanyaccounts
2 жыл бұрын
@@DIEGhostfish maybe in the project but not geared towards being augmented in the direction of piloting. they may just have been experimenting on them to see if they could be made to learn basic for example.
One thing to The Book of Boba Fett's credit... it did Gamorreans good. Those two who work for Boba Fett are actually likeable... it's about time we got some of these guys who are not antagonists.
@DIEGhostfish
2 жыл бұрын
One of very few things.
I can easily imagine the scene: A long line of Gamorean warriors, waiting to apply for positions as Fetts palace guards. Tales of a Gamorean in his masters personal Bacta-tank had to spread quickly... "Did you hear? If you get hurt working for Fett, he drops you into a Bacta-tank! The Hutts leave you to bleed out in the dust..." Hearts and minds are gonna win this war.
@sovietunion7643
2 жыл бұрын
that's definitely true, and really the pikes don't see this. they have threatened towns, and destroyed buildings to let people know that going against them means death, but really all they are doing is making sure there is more support for boba. yes fear is a great motivator, but you can't always control what it motivates. in this case, its gonna make people fight harder against the pikes, as boba's respectful and calm minded rule seems a infinitely better alternative to the pikes
@FalconWindblader
2 жыл бұрын
@@sovietunion7643 Wouldn't have mattered if Boba was a softy through & through. The thing that got Boba looking so charismatic is that he's a loving softy with a very, very hard shell, & an even harder attitude against those who dare to cross him & his people. The way i see it, he's the embodiment of Cancer in western astrology.
@vincentleonard3797
4 ай бұрын
@@sovietunion7643 Motivation by punishment only works to a point. People generally don't like being punished out of nowhere, so if they think the reasoning for their punishment is flimsy, they'll act out. The Rebel Alliance is proof of this. Motivation by reward, conversely, is far more reliable on account of people generally liking being rewarded for doing well. Basically, a crime lord hiring a bounty hunter to bring in a rival would be more likely to have them brought in alive if they promise to cover the cost of the hunter's celebratory dinner than if they threaten to cut the bounty in half if they receive a corpse.
When Fett took on the Gamorreans it somehow reminded me of when the Gamorreans are recruited in the Far Orbit Project. As the writers seem to be real fans I'm sure they've read all those old campaign books.
The Pig Guards for life.
As Jabba once said "They are warriors made of bacon. Even if they die, you still have bacon."
I'm actually really enjoying the storyline, and the depth of the lore going into the creatures backgrounds.
Sounds like Boba Fett knew exactly what he was doing. After all human archaeologists are starting to realize. That our primitive ancestors were much smarter than we thought. So why couldn't Gamorians be smarter that people thought too.
@Random-ql6rr
2 жыл бұрын
@@droneant7602 We also see clone troopers running in single file towards a zabark whose only weapon is a close range weapon. And only shooting when they are in striking range.
@duckbert3314
2 жыл бұрын
I always had a feeling Gamorreans were much more complex than how they are often portrayed. Most people see them as brutish idiots when really they are just as capable as any sentient in the Star Wars universe.
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958
2 жыл бұрын
Besides certain aspects like the more-than-typical warmongering and the rigid gender roles (they arent the only species to do that mind you, Tusken Raiders I recall have that problem too, and our own real world ancestors for that matter), as well as other aspects, they are in fact just like our ancestors. In fact, the whole idea reminds me of how natives from less technologically advanced countries are in our world's history. They were never stupid, inferior, and certainly weren't "savages" or anything the colonizers would claim, they just happened not to advance technologically as far as the rest of the world for one reason or another, but pretty much 9/10 times if not straight up 10/10 times, they had societies that at least functioned, they were just as civilized as anyone else, and the Gamorreans and Tuskens remind me of that too in a way.
@justjoking5841
2 жыл бұрын
Not to argue semantics but Gamorreans are not exactly the most Sci Fi Street Smart. Because of their culture they automatically resort to close quarters, assuming that their opponent will fight them fairly in a melee. While respectable it is stupid in a universe where a hand gun can destroy massive chunks of stone and concrete. (See A New Hope Han Solo shooting at the Stormtroopers on Tatooine)
@CollinMcLean
2 жыл бұрын
@@justjoking5841 Like Geetsly said, they didn't really have the eyesight for ranged weapons. They kind of have to stick to melee weapons.
When you realize Tatooine being the home of many home great Star Wars memes: Anakin, gonk droid, sand, youngling slaughter, Podracing, *AND SAND*
@ceoofwarcrimes4600
2 жыл бұрын
My guy you forgot pocket sand, and SAND
@minicle426
2 жыл бұрын
Bantha.
I want to see Boba's Gammorean guards get a big battle axe each. Like in Clone Wars or the ones who served Bib Fortuna. Edit: Maybe some beefier armour too?
@mateo10734
2 жыл бұрын
Yea maybe if he had pauldrons he wouldn’t have gotten a shoulder chunk missing right now
@supertacticaldroid1751
2 жыл бұрын
This aged like milk
Besides being tasty treats, I really didn't know much about these guys. Thanks Geets.
6:38 Before Book Of Boba Fett, that guy was the first dignified Gammorean I saw. I heard about a mutant Gammorean who became an X-Wing pilot, though.
All I expect for the Gamorreans to do is yell out “WAAAGH!!!”
There was a Gamoroan who served in either rogue or wraith squadron (90% sure it was the latter). Considering how elite both those groups were, I'd say that there are at least some intelligent and "modern" Gammoroans.
@williamcostigan91
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Piggy was not your average Gamoroan
Since they saved Fett’s life twice we can say yes in hindsight. But I would have said yes even before that. Being mercenaries without an employer the fact that he was offering them a job and sparing their lives would probably be more than enough incentive for them to work for him.
In Lego Star Wars TCS when I was a boy I didn't know their species name, so I called them Piggaurds cutely enough. Plus they kinda looked cute with that old Gamorrean lego mold lol
@SquirrelASMR
2 жыл бұрын
Heheee
@CommanderStarr298
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
I know its off the initial question but could a Gamorrean be taken as a mando foundling? Cuz a squealing piggy with a jetpack just seems like something we all need more of
@JudgeNicodemus
2 жыл бұрын
Bad piggies.
I typically just found them as nothing but as a target at the end of my blaster in SWBF2
I think if Boba ever got those guards some Beskar Armor - they'd be nearly indestructible.
Win you have good bodyguards, lose you get free bacon. Sounds like a win win to me.
Imagine if he covered them in bescar armor it would be like to small tanks
We immediately see Gamoreans as beings with a big capacity of loyalty. I must admit, after seeing their crude, incompetent and somewhat dim-witted nature in RTOJ and in the animated stuff, I thought boba had made a mistake in sparing 2 guards of the same species. During the Assasin’s fight in TBOBF Ep 1, I was immediately proven wrong. Sparing your enemies when they could otherwise have been killed and then offering them to work for you can definitely work in your favour. An example of this in real life was during one of the rebellions against Henry VII. The main figure of the rebellion was a youngish person and Henry realised he was a pawn in the plan of other aristocrats. So he spared the main figurehead of this rebellion and gave him a job in the royal kitchens, and his gratefulness led him to never be part of any further rebellions.
Yes finally I've been for to do a star wars video about the gamorrean guards i always wanted to hear more about them
I can imagine perhaps certain gamorrean sows may have reached a point of intelligence where they could speak Galactic Basic, and also be a brutal enemy to face in battle.
@theravenlordmasterofthevib8991
2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t an intelligence issue. They physically couldn’t speak Basic
Fun fact: Gamorra from Guardians of the galaxy is the female of the Gamoreans
These are the longest lasting figures in Star Wars! They’ve been in almost all the movies and shows! I like them!
Great video, Geetsly! Really enjoy these videos on iconic Star Wars races.
In the words of Cosmo Kramer, "Oh god! It's a pig man!"
4:00 Gamorrean with a Klingon Mek'leth!
Gamorreans are what you'd actually get if Kermit the Frog had a kid with Miss Piggy.
Honestly the Gamorreans would be the perfect fit for a fantasy series, probably part of he Horde in Warcraft for instance. They being distantly related to Orcs could be a cool thing.
@NavyVet4955
2 жыл бұрын
I thought the 40k Orcs were basically mushrooms
@MrSafior
2 жыл бұрын
Asian orcs are basicaly Gamorreans.
Wait so if s potbelly is desireable wouldn't that mean Jabba/Bobas guards were gigachads or are they just average for their species?
I like it so far. Watching Boba Fett trying to be an underworld boss by making a found family is fun imo
The Ones in the show seem like real bros
Glad they're not being treated for always getting killed.
Hey Geetsly's! I was wondering how you make your videos, because I really want to make videos similar because I love the format and I find them interesting. Also love the vids, keep up the great work!
@randomuser7629
2 жыл бұрын
My guess is just put pictures of what your talking about and talk about what your talking about
@davidmccarthy4206
2 жыл бұрын
I'd say research first and foremost, and not just reading the Wookieepeedia page, but actually digging into the comics, the books, the guides etc. Geetslys really brings in a personnal and opiniated touch that you won't get without putting in some efforts. Good luck if you start !
@SquirrelASMR
2 жыл бұрын
He probably lines up a bunch of pics in the editor, puts some fill effect for those pics that don't fit, and add transitions between the shots. U can use any editor on ur phone or computer probably. Oh and ad some low background music's. When u mess around in the editor, you'll find it's pretty easy just moving clips and audio around and applying effects and transitions between images
EU's wraith squadron books had a gamorean hyper intelligent xwing pilot. Adorable
All you need to do is build a speaker system and they’ll use their axes as guitars
@ThinWhiteAxe
2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah
It made perfect sense for Jabba to rig the fight against the gamorreans he had brought to him. In the history of the hutt species, they were very capable combatants but over time let others handle their business.
They really are the space Orcs of Star Wars
4:45 that’s actually so smart lmao
In Legends? Because Barbara Hambly REALLY liked Gammoreans. She just dug them. Also Piggy from Wraith Squadron though he does contradict some of Hambly's depiction of them.
Finally I wanted to know wtf those green guys were 🥺 those guys be perfect samurais also we all know THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT IS EPIC except for those power ranger vehicles and characters
Still remember playing one in the PPRPG He got shock gauntlets. By the by Gamorians with Shock Gauntlets are nasty.
I did not expect the brutish pigs of Star Wars to actually have a clan structure that is more complicated than one would think. That is honestly pretty cool.
@toomanyaccounts
2 жыл бұрын
you only saw the males. it was rare that there were females offworld. on the homeworld the females were the productive ones.
@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
2 жыл бұрын
@@toomanyaccounts Interesting
These were some of my favorite characters! Nice video!
Gamorreans are on my top personal list, of Favorite SW Species in the entire universe.
THe topic of Gamorreans not being able to speak Basic also was mentioned by Wedge Antilles in the novel Wraith Squadron. When Wes Janson mentioned that one of the candidates for the squadron was a Gamorrean. Tho Wedge didn't question the candidates intelligence, he more wondered about the hormones that made especially male Gamorreans aggressive and the language problem. It turned out to not be a problem however because the individuum in question, Voort SaBinring, was modified in a resarch facility with a superhuman control over his anger and a translator implanted in his throat. Maybe an video about him would be in order.
@inquisitorichijou883
2 жыл бұрын
Also, there was a Gamorrean in the novel The Crytos Trap that was also shown to had some common sense. He contracted the virus and noticing it, he quarantined himself in his home by changing the codes for the locks (he was living on Corouscant btw). While he met his own grisly demise through the virus, he also made sure that his sow would not contract the virus through him.
I actually quite enjoy the show so far it the smartmove always have strong and loyal followers
I loved how they added the gamorian guards back i know it sounds silly I love love them I got to play one in a stars rpg
Ive loved them ever since Lego Star wars the complete saga
Star Wars bacon at its finest 🥓
Gamorreans are the Orcs of the Star Wars Universe
Are Gamorreans tasty? Did Jabba ever eat Green Gamorrean Bacon?!?
I didn't know what these creatures were actually called prior to your video so thank you.
R.I.P piggies
@kekwmaster8199
2 жыл бұрын
Bad piggies*insert angry birds music*
These guys look so much like Legend of Zelda Moblins that it hurts.
Gamorreans: The Orcs of the Star Wars universe
Star Wars version of Orcs :D Instead of WAAAAGH! They go WWWEEEEEEEEE!
I knew fett made the right choice! Also, what were the views about Gamorians in the jedi and sith eyes? 🤔
@christopherfauver5657
2 жыл бұрын
Physically strong but weak minded and very suceptable the force.
You seriously need to go to _Star Wars: the Old Republic_ ‘s Nal Hutta; there are Gamorreans using blasters ! ! !
@FastTquick
2 жыл бұрын
The idea of seeing Gamorreans using blasters is blasphemous both in-universe and out. To me, Gamorrean guards will always be the brutish guards who use bladed weapons over blasters and are such chads as to bring axes to a blaster fight.
Man. I'm really pig for a feast of Star Wars Lore
I would love to see one turn up in live action looking like that artwork at 2:29 or 2:44 that would be so epic
Gamorrean guards have always been a favorite of mine
I don't do cosplay. But I have the perfect body to pull off a Gamorrean if I ever want to.
I always thought that the Gamorreans seen in RotJ were more like something from a ‘He-Man’ or ‘Conan’ style 80’s fantasy, than Star Wars. I didn’t like them for that reason, but now I feel it’s the bulk of their design’s appeal.
Cant wait for the new minifig will be cool
They kinda look like Orcs from the old first ed. D&D monster manual.
Any chance you could do a video about that weird elephant alien that’s always playing music in the bars
@SquirrelASMR
2 жыл бұрын
Hehe yaa he looks soo weird to me like a blue couch kinda
@toomanyaccounts
2 жыл бұрын
@@SquirrelASMR vids have been done about him and his species on various channels. He is an Ortolan named Max Rebo
They're the orks of starwars
One of the greatest aspects amongst many for the book of boba fett so far is like the shows before it, giving more context to certain elements of the environments making them feel more characteristic and making the world feel lived in. You feel at home in Tatooine, you feel like you know its people backwards and forwards and its adding more life to a planet we thought we knew enough of. Absolutely brilliant world building as always with Star Wars.
Was that a Hitch hikers guide to the Galaxy nod at the beginning? 1:19
I think it'd be interesting to to "uplift" some gammorreans using kaminoin cloning, think clone commandos but gammorrean instead of human DNA
@christopherfauver5657
2 жыл бұрын
Some sith could make them even stronger and more agressive with sith sorcery. Technically they could make almost any species into horrifying sith spawn including Wookies.
I just want to see the old style Gamorrean, not this new one that just looks like a big guy in a bad halloween outfit.
All I know is that these Gamorians could use a good krumpin WAAAGH
You say that the Gamorreans are dumb but yet supposedly smart enough to hang back till just the right moment when Boba was being attacked by the nightwind. Personally I saw their charge as they were doing something else like eating, got distracted, then came out and were like oh shit our boss is under attack! Plus hiring bodyguards whose previous TWO employers were assassinated doesn't exactly testify to their prowess.
Mandalorian= WE LOVE BABY YODA!!!!! Book of Boba Fett= WE LOVE GAMORREANS!!!! Me= Shut up!!!!
TBBF seems really... Disney. It's one thing to try building your empire around respect vs fear and another entirely to behave as though fear is something to be avoided. We see the consequences of ruling through fear in the original trilogy, and we see countless examples in TBBF in which the lack of fear from their opponents caused countless deaths (even to the point of wondering was it all worth it). Lucas and Disney have tried very hard to keep this reality from being perceived by their audiences, but in reality this is why Solo shooting first was such a monumental moment... it was the emergence of consequence vs idealistic perspectives of right and wrong. Solo had no particular culture he was trying to protect, if anything his culture was that of the smuggler (profit at all cost). Boba assumes all profit from his predecessors so it makes some sense that his goals would be more ideal, it also makes sense considering his background and his time with the sand people. However, while idealism often marks in most people's eyes the height of a civilization that perception is most often due to the overwhelming odds of said civilization crumbling soon after... it's a questionable approach to running an empire but a far more stupid approach to starting an empire (and we see him realizing this by the end, when he says that they're not right for this position... but something that simple and precedent should not have taken someone like Boba so long to realize and should have been more like second nature to his understanding of the galaxy by then). All together, while appreciated for the extension of lore I find TBBF to be an overly expositional take on rather simplistic philosophical constructs. :(
The gormorians are some of my favourite species
Seems like boba put them on a proper diet to be more effective.
Gamorreans are more honorable and loyal than most believe.
Gotta respect them. You gotta.
The Book of Fett has shown us our preconceptions of the "stupid" races, such as Gamorreans and Tuskens, is seriously unfounded.... perhaps you can not judge a book by it's cover :)
i always think Boba made the right choice there. them boys have been nothing BUT loyal to him!
my only gripe with the ones in the book of boba fett is that they aren’t as “drooly” as they were in EP6
Space orcs!
I know what happens when Kermit the frog get on with mrs piggy lmao 🤣
In Season 2 we need more Gamorreans. I don´t understand why only two gamorreans joined Boba there have to be more of them. But theres a guy who count them because so many of them die that the palace guard must have 50 of them:-))
And they are WWE superstars in the mandalorian
Anyone else noticed that the gamorians used Klingon swords.