Which player will be the 🔑 player during England vs Germany on Tuesday night? 👇

@poeticmic6219

2 жыл бұрын

Lets be honest, nobody is scared of us. Especially since we play defensive like we're the ones that are scared of us. Play not to loose is the Mouthgate* way

@karl343

2 жыл бұрын

Muller

@Grillmachine00

2 жыл бұрын

Pickford

@TheGOAT_

2 жыл бұрын

Gnabry or Havertz

@CarlinConnolly

2 жыл бұрын

Luke Shaw, Sterling and Grealish when he comes on

RH is so good, always brings insightful and measured analysis with a healthy amount of charisma

@TheAthleticFCPodcast

2 жыл бұрын

We love him too!

Italy and France would be closer as Germany's rivals rather than England

@jochenklausberger9076

2 жыл бұрын

And of course the dutch.

@devilsolution9781

2 жыл бұрын

5-1 and even heskey scored

@ac14cmpunk25

2 жыл бұрын

non of them either Germany vs Netherlands is the biggest rivalry Ask any German football fan

@jackmurphy6864

2 жыл бұрын

@@devilsolution9781 And 0 - 1 at Wembley. England aren't the rival of any top nation.

@devilsolution9781

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackmurphy6864 You can say what you want but football is very much political and rivals are forged in politics

I've always felt like the England-Germany rivalry was mainly one-sided from the English side, while the Germans were kinda indifferent about the Brits.

@pcs54

2 жыл бұрын

I mean I wouldnt say indifferent germany definitely doesnt want to lose to england, but when u dont have recent memories of painful losses theres less animosity. I think its similar to how germany feels towards italy cause they knocked us out of a lot of tournaments.

@Delboy0

2 жыл бұрын

That it utter bullshit. If Germans are indifferent to England, then why does the England games get higher TV ratings in Germany? England vs Germany is more than just sporting rivalry it is a cultural rivalry too. England has more cultural influence than Germany so this irks Germans a bit so there is a slightly envy of England's global cultural influence, so they enjoy beating England because of that. It is like Eurovision Song Contest, Britain has no chance of winning it, because all of Europe envies Britain's international music scene so see it as a poke in the eye for of Britain when they don't give Britain any points.

@Vi0L3NtCA

2 жыл бұрын

@@Delboy0 I am german. What are you talking about? haha Germans like England and enjoy their holidays by visiting the Buckingham Palace. lol And to take it further: England vs Germany is exciting to watch

@Delboy0

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vi0L3NtCA I am not saying Germans don’t like England. I just find it ridiculous when here a German journalist claim there is no rivalry. It is more than to the rivalry than World Cup wins

@GuinessOriginal

2 жыл бұрын

Brits aren’t English

Germany not considering England as rivals is the football equivalent of "You're not on my level"

@wasimsyed9220

Жыл бұрын

The Dutch

Dutch:”it’s like I’m not even here!”

@ebbeb9827

2 жыл бұрын

still a bigger and more historic rival than england

@tomboz777

2 жыл бұрын

@@ebbeb9827 i thought he was gonna day the Dutch not Italy.🤷🏻‍♂️

@mariowanagat1412

2 жыл бұрын

Of cause it’s Oranje, the dude is dumm. I am with the team since 82 , never heard one of my friends say Italy, that our Nemesis cause we mostly loose not rivals. I love them but I fkg hate the Dutch! ( football only of course, beautiful people otherwise, we talking on the pitch here) when they don’t qualify or whatever we sing even as we play someone else. If Italy messed up who cares other then oh we might have a chance to win the tournament now 😂

Not even close! As a German, our biggest rivals when it comes to football are te Netherlands!

Always had massive respect for Germany and German precision. Great country. Great engineers, pioneers and organisers. As a Huddersfield Town fan, we owe a lot to Germany - the Wagner revolution, Hefele, Lowe and the sexiest man in football, Christopher Schindler - absolute legend. Now that being said... Come On England!

@edmond6818

2 жыл бұрын

If Germany is a great country then it means that we are close to the end of the world. Study some history. Engineers, pioneers? There are much greater countries about it. In Germany the most important were Jews. However, this doesn't mean that they didn't have any. Christopher Schindler the most beautiful player? Really? No, I don't think so. Ergo: either you are ignorant or you are German.

@hanssiegling8262

2 жыл бұрын

Cope

@niklasmorningstar4301

2 жыл бұрын

@@edmond6818 calm down dude. It was just his opinion. Why are you getting so triggered? Lol

@whinyleftist4921

2 жыл бұрын

@@niklasmorningstar4301 typical english xenophobia

What about Argentina? The number of clashes in world cup is astounding

From the German perspective, I think they would put Holland, Italy and Argentina above England. The problem with England historically when playing Germany after 1966 is that they are too nice and play out classics vs the Germans but are just a hard luck story and end up being the gallant losers. There is no nastiness and pain for the Germans. Compared that to the Dutch and Germans literally spat at each other.

@davidlean1060

2 жыл бұрын

Argentina, despite it being a bolt hole for German settlers and, rumor has it, escaped Nazis? That's surprising.

@ac14cmpunk25

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidlean1060 Maradonna not taking us seriously before 2010 World Cup and then paid big time for it Attacked our stuff after the game 2016 behavoir of higuain and other in 2014 final Maradonna killer pass to win it for Argentina against us 1986 Penalty controversial in 1990 to win it for us Messi vs ter Stegen in a friendly You hate Argentina as a German much more then you do France, Brazil, England and even Italy

@onlyweatherlol93

2 жыл бұрын

That was just Rijkaard being a one off prat 🤣🤣🤣 but in seriousness I see your point

@mmartijn78

Жыл бұрын

For Germans and for Dutch only Niederlande and Deutschland

@rohithraman6488

Жыл бұрын

I think many England fans consider Argentina as a fiercer rival than Germany cause there were far more passionate and heated clashes between the two sides (1966, 1986, 1998)

I always thought that Germany's biggest rivals were Netherlands, not Italy?!

@Diablo98ssy

2 жыл бұрын

As an Italian imma say in sport Netherlands were never great as Italy, apart for the Cruijff era and maybe the Van Basten/Gullit, and i think the fact they are nearer countries might make you feel they are more rivals. But in sports i can assure you they can't stand us, they never beat us in a major competition, the only exception is euro 2016 when they beat us at the infamous Pelle and Zaza's penalty shoutout. So i'd say they would be happier beating us than Netherlands.

@balanceinmidfield1843

2 жыл бұрын

@@Diablo98ssy Netherlands has produced a far greater amount of talented players than Italy. Not even considering the size and population size.

@philippgabainvonkries5117

2 жыл бұрын

Nah. You tend to consider those countries that beat you as your main rival. I grew up considering Italy our main Rival simply cause they kept beating us. I've never felt that way about the Netherlands they are a great side but we don't have a history of losing or having close games with them.

@jaikee9477

2 жыл бұрын

I'm German and historically it's Italy followed by the Netherlands. Playing England is special for other reasons. 😁

@fe-jo

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaikee9477 No, the Netherlands are still no. 1 rival, followed by Italy.

The gentlest of shades thrown on the perennial English fixation with a saviour player. Because "pinning your hope one one all-action hero (under the breath: "Grealish!") is not the sign of a functioning team ..."

@Southsidestu

2 жыл бұрын

As soon as he said that, Grealish popped into my head

1 Netherlands 2 Italy 3 France

It's not a rivalry. It's important to us English because Germany represent a hurdle that has constantly prevented us from success in international tournaments. They've always been better and a step ahead. That's why this recent win was so important to us.

England need to stop worrying. They are currently far better than Germany, Italy, Spain & Netherlands. France is by far the best team in Europe and England, a close second. Italy, Germany and Netherlands need to change their organization structure and adapt to the modern fast tempo of football these days.

I think we (England) are a little bit in awe of Germany and have seen them as this successful juggernaut in football who come through tough matches where we would buckle under the pressure. I’m not sure rivalry is the right word for it. I’d say we have more of a rivalry with Argentina.

@DA-of9sv

2 жыл бұрын

I'm English agree

@AzizDoufikar2280

Жыл бұрын

Argentina😂😂.Lol not even close.I bet Argentinians would say "you are not on my level and yet you consider me to be your rival? Have a look in the mirror"

@OllieSmythable

Жыл бұрын

@@AzizDoufikar2280 Rivalries aren't just 'you are good and we are also good so we are rivals'. If that was the case then Liverpool and Everton wouldn't be rivals. Rivalry is based much more cultural and historical factors and Argentina and England have plenty of that.

@AzizDoufikar2280

7 ай бұрын

​@@OllieSmythableMost Liverpool fans considered Man Utd to be their biggest rival than Everton.That alone speaks volume

It’s a bit like Man City and man uniteds rivalry, Man City think they’re the biggest rivals but man united think Liverpool are

@GuinessOriginal

2 жыл бұрын

United are right, Liverpool are city’s biggest rivals, United haven’t competed with city for ten years

@davidlean1060

2 жыл бұрын

NOt entirely true. For many years Man Utd paid little regard to that derby because Liverpool were not in a position to do any actual harm to United.

People talk how the English-Germany is mostly stemmed from the war, which to be fair is true, but if you look at the Germany-Netherlands rivalry is mostly the same thing. That rivalry also stems from the war (or at least the war intensified it). But the difference is that the Netherlands was a neutral country at the start of the war and they actually were invaded and conquered by the Germans (despite being neutral and without warning or without provoking the Germans). During the occupation, German soldiers and police forces (as well as Nazi collaborators) committed numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity against the Dutch. So in a way the Netherlands's rivalry being linked to the war is a bit more justified (or at least more understandable) than the English rivalry is.

I feel like we (the English) kind of ruin the rivalry for their fans by constantly going on about The War(s). It means they can't really participate without taking the "Nazi side", which obviously they aren't going to want to do.

@Who_can_save_you_from_hell

Жыл бұрын

It is harder especially in the sensitive fully pc raised younger generations, but also because the pc media does not really "allow" such connotations for rivalriy therefore the funny rivalries to the dutch or italy is more in the modern german culture.

England's true rivals are Argentina in Football. A mutual feeling between the 2. Historically the biggest rival to England/Britain is France and not Germany.

@AzizDoufikar2280

Жыл бұрын

Argentina?😂😂.Still bitter about the hand of God thing?

@liams4411

Жыл бұрын

@@AzizDoufikar2280 No, not at all. I was glad they won the recent World Cup and Messi the best of all time managed to lift the trophy.

@D.y.891

Ай бұрын

​@@liams4411 Historial (Record) 6 wins 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 2 wins🇦🇷 6 ties

Is the mark chapman podcast available on KZread? Can never find it

Chappers on the Athletic! Good to see... top notch broadcaster and seems a lovely bloke!

The Germany - England rivalry has nothing to do with anything on the football pitch. It is all historical/geo-political rivalry. In other words, much ado about nothing. . ..

@Caiser

2 жыл бұрын

So it has nothig to do with the 1966 final, the 1996 Euros?

@MonsieurLeRocck

2 жыл бұрын

@@Caiser nope, LOLOLOLOL, Ha, 2 Tournament matches [of relative importance] in the past 60 years, c'mon Man. How many Finals had England been to since '66; compared to Germany? Sorry pal, Germany has been a constant on the world stage, hell, england didn't even qualify for the WC94. So yeah, in a word [in answering your question]: No.

@Caiser

2 жыл бұрын

@@MonsieurLeRocck You said it has nothing to do with what happened on the pitch, and I gave you 2 examples of where it did matter for England. The fact that England have only been to 1 final, clearly makes that final more important to their history. I could have also mentioned the 2010 World Cup where England were robbbed because of an awful mistake by the referee.

@pcs54

2 жыл бұрын

@@Caiser Yea youre right that its also partly cause of what happened on the field. But 2010 its hard to complain about being robbed when it ends 4-1.

@Caiser

2 жыл бұрын

@@pcs54 the Lampard goal would have brought the game level and completely changed the flow of the game

I'm a German fan but I'm not German. I've always felt Argentina is our biggest rivals.

I quite enjoy the English-Argentine rivalry.. lot of drama and memories.

@Frserthegreenengine

2 жыл бұрын

That's also a fairly one-sided rivalry, mainly in Argentina, although it has caught on in England (only because of Maradona's Hand of God goal).

@charliewright4044

2 жыл бұрын

@@Frserthegreenengine The England Argentina rivalry is interesting. You ask an Englishman what they think of Argentinians they'll jokingly and humorously say 'hate them' but Argentinians genuinely cannot stand the english

@Frserthegreenengine

2 жыл бұрын

@@charliewright4044 and the majority of those Argentines who can't stand them will probably cite the Falklands as their main reason for hating the English (if not that then it would probably be 1966)

You can not desribe yourself really as a rival of Germany. One year after i was born you won your one and only big title. In 1966. Here are my finals with my country live on TV : 1. 1974 Munich 2:1 vs Netherlands 2. 1976 Belgrade 4:5 vs CSSR penalty 3. 1980 Rome : 2:1 vs Belgium 4. 1982 Madrid : 1:3 vs Italy 5. 1986 Mexico City : 2:3 vs Argentina 6. 1990 Rome : 1:0 vs Argentina 7. 1992 Gotenburg : 0:2 vs Denmark 8. 1996 London : 2:1 vs Tschech Rep. 9. 2002 Yokohama : 0:2 vs Brazil 10. 2008 Vienna : 0:1 vs Spain 11. 2014 Rio de Janeiro : 1:0 vs Argentina. Germany won the Euro cup 3 times and played 5 Euro Finals. We won the world cup 4 times and played 7 finals. England : 1 final 1 win. You are not really our rivals.

@reOgamer929

2 жыл бұрын

Wow!! Great research.

@princesofthepower3690

2 жыл бұрын

1972 Brussels 3:0 vs URSS .

@nikolauswolff5791

2 жыл бұрын

@@princesofthepower3690 Yeah your right but in 1972 i was only 7 and didn't knew anything about football/soccer. My life with my team Germany started in 1974 with the world cup in Germany.

@DA-of9sv

2 жыл бұрын

Agree pal that's why I fear playing Germany. Steeped in history of doing very well. I agree we're not in germanys league when it comes to success.

@mmartijn78

Жыл бұрын

88 huh

Germany ❤️ Italy England is knowing this for a long time

Fact: with the exception to the dubious 1966 WC. England never reached any finals. Neither World Cup nor Euro (remarkable🤯). Yet somehow, they call the clash against Germany a "rivalry" (4 WC, 3 runnerups, 3 Euros, 3 runner-ups).

@1414yorks

2 жыл бұрын

Fact Germany has won 1 World Cup 2010 1 European Championship 1996 Any previous trophies were won by West Germany a country that no longer exists and is consigned to history!!!

@hanssiegling8262

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know you lose your only wrongful wc title, when little britain gets smaller....again!

@michaelbroughton3412

2 жыл бұрын

@@hanssiegling8262 If Britain decentralised, then England would still be the same team, unlike west Germany. Britain is different to England. England is represented at football tournaments rather than Britain - Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have their own national teams - they were in the current tournament I’d you’d seen correctly!

@rajkaranvirk7525

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I guess England have now

@whinyleftist4921

2 жыл бұрын

@@1414yorks but its still the same football association. the DFB.

That's the thing with rivalries. From an English point of view, it is certainly more important, since the national team has lost to Germany more often in important tournaments. Something similar could be said about Italy from a German point of view. Nevertheless, it is certainly the case that the duels with the Netherlands are considered the most important. Perhaps one or the other Englishman would be surprised to hear that the defeat against England in 2021 did not disappoint many German fans that much, as our team were not given any great chances in this tournament from the outset. Basically, it's nice to see when both teams play at a high level so that the duels take place on an equal footing again. I'm looking forward to the next meeting.

How can you be a rival, while you don’t win anything 😂

@arjitjere1559

2 жыл бұрын

Yep like chelsea/ arsenal vs spurs

@danamba7

2 жыл бұрын

Bit of a silly point. There are many reasons to be rivals. Winning silverware is just one of them. We had a very real and aggressive rivalry with Argentina because of the Falklands. You're rivals with your neighbours. You can be rivals because of incidents in past matches. Lots of reasons.

@montanaprime

2 жыл бұрын

@@danamba7 ok boomer.

@danamba7

2 жыл бұрын

@@montanaprime great reply, fair play.

@HusseinDoha

2 жыл бұрын

@@danamba7 But the Argentine never saw England as a rival. With Europe, they are haunted by Germany and Holland, which they had multiple WC finals clashes with, and knockouts. And Brazil in South America. --- Falklands?? Folks over there don't care about a 3k square island when their are 6 times the size of UK. Only failed politicians who try to whimp on something do. Ask them where Falkland is on the map and they can't tell. Fact: with the exception to the dubious 1966 WC. England never reached any finals. Neither World Cup nor Euro (remarkable🤯). Yet somehow, they call the clash against Germany a "rivalry" (4 WC, 3 runnerups, 3 Euros, 3 runner-ups).

Let’s be honest England have one trophy in the cabinet , the 1966 World Cup. I was lucky enough to listen to the final on the radio, but that is it. As Jose Mourinho would say we are specialists in failure. Good players great football league but for some reason we can’t deliver on the national stage. This year is probably our best chance.

@daniel-cc7bn

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah if that tide were to turn and England were to start winning then I think Germany would consider us more as rivals

@ciaranoconnell4783

2 жыл бұрын

Slightly unfair imo. England came extremely close to winning 1990 & 1996. Those both games were on a knife-edge. Had they won them, the Germans would have been the ones psychologically scarred like the English were.

@sevesellors2831

2 жыл бұрын

@@ciaranoconnell4783 the Germans might be scarred after last night. I do think this might be our best chance to win the trophy although Spain and Italy look useful. Fingers crossed!

@princesofthepower3690

2 жыл бұрын

@@sevesellors2831 They didn’t seem to have any fight or belief . They definitely wanted Loew out as quickly as possible.

@princesofthepower3690

2 жыл бұрын

@@ciaranoconnell4783 England were very lucky to be in the 1990 semifinals as they were completely outplayed by the Belgians in the round of 16 and completely outplayed again by Cameroon , and only got through because of Lineker diving for the penalty.

italy agreed 4 world cup 1 euro

@sinclair288

2 жыл бұрын

2 euro

As a German i can tell you, for us there is only one real rival in football and that are the Netherlands. When the Dutch did not qualify for the World Cup 2002 we even had da Song "Ohne Holland fahrn wir zur WM" and made fun of them. We even have adverts. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYuqrbh-ZtWyeZM.html

We have to start differentiating leagues n national teams

It was only a couple of a weeks ago Scotland was the biggest rivalry, and look what a damp squib that game turned out to be

@Frserthegreenengine

2 жыл бұрын

We Scots still see the English as our biggest rival, we know we're nowhere near good enough to face off Germany, Italy etc.

Italy vs Germany 4-3 of 1970 is the greatest game of football history

@ac14cmpunk25

2 жыл бұрын

i take 7-1 but i weren't alive back then so yeah

Chappers gets everywhere!

Argentina and Germany have met in 3 World Cup finals as well as few more times before the final and I have to say the Argentines have to be the biggest rivals. You could say England’s arch rival is Argentina as well with so much history between the two sides. Italy and France have a better shot at being Germany’s biggest rivals compared to England

Pull the other one Herman !

From my perspective as an England fan, it's obviously a one-sided rivalry. On the English side I think it comes down to lamenting why we aren't as remotely successful as they are when, often, our squads are comparable to theirs man-for-man. Germany have won 4 World Cups, 3 Euros, the Confederations Cup - they go deep into almost every tournament they play in and they're one of the most successful footballing nations in history. England have usually been eliminated by the time Germany are at the business-end of the tournament so we haven't actually played each other that many times to have a compelling rivalry - once every 15 years maybe. It's understandable that Germany feel more competitive with national teams who are 'in the same league', which is why they don't take the Netherlands all too seriously anymore, because the Dutch are inconsistent as well, sometimes not even qualifying for tournaments, and they've only ever won the Euros. It's only natural that Germany don't take us seriously and that's why the onus has to be on England to continue to compete more consistently in tournaments as we have been since 2018. Having now beaten them in a competitive game and with English teams going deeper in the Champions League and Europa League - there's no reason to think it couldn't be different in future. Certainly the recent game will leave a bitter taste in the mouth for German fans as their team didn't perform anywhere close to expectations. I think it could trigger another reboot like the one we saw in the 2000s - Toni Kroos has already retired and Muller, Hummels and Gundogan could follow. I think we'll see a different Germany in Qatar.

@AzizDoufikar2280

Жыл бұрын

Also,the fact that English fans always brings up the ww1 and ww2 jokes says a lot about england hatred towards Germans

@katiareginafranco4120

7 ай бұрын

The rival of England Is France

Germany, 4 x World Champions, 3 X European champions.... rivalry!.... are you serious?

@sinclair288

2 жыл бұрын

in fact, in my opinion the real rival of Germany is Italy, then I don't know.

@mmartijn78

Жыл бұрын

@@sinclair288 haha Italy? Only one at it's Netherlands

Agree with RH Germany's main rivals would be Italy France Brazil Argentina Holland maybe even Spain too. We england are a second tier nation in terms of football achievement. 2 semi finals in 30 years lol 😆 we beat Germany the other day but still haven't won an international tournament since 1966. Germany have won 4 World cups been to 7 World Cup finals won 3 European championships. We have a long way to go to be rivals in international football in terms of achievement.

Throughout history, only Italy can claim to be Germany’s biggest rivals.

Lots of people saying how insignificant England is in the rivalry due to their lack of silverware compared to Germany. I partly agree, but aren’t national rivalries built on history and culture? Scotland has never won anything but Eng v Sco is a huge cultural and historical rivalry.

The english invented the sport. Its their passion and as a german i think italy is our biggest rival because we have a harder time playing them.

Raf wearing a submariner? Good for him 😍

I always had Englands rivals as Scotland ang Argentina then Germany and France

Let's just be honest the England, Germany rivalry goes all the way back to WW2 and if you're English and disagree I frankly don't believe you

@jf29superfortress31

Жыл бұрын

That wasn't strictly between England and Germany though. That was the Entire UK 🇬🇧. Plus if it was based on WW2 then technically Germany's biggest rivals would be the Russians and the Americans. Since those countries done the most in ww2

@tomstorey8559

Жыл бұрын

@@jf29superfortress31 you can't actually be serious about the us doing more than Britain during WWII, the us was like a substitute in football who comes on for the last third and trys to steal all the glory!

@jf29superfortress31

Жыл бұрын

@@tomstorey8559 wdym? America literally saved britain in ww2

@tomstorey8559

Жыл бұрын

@@jf29superfortress31 your not seriously trying to say that America, a country who turned up two years late did more in ww2 than the British, if you are you must be American for having a poor grasp on world history

@aranyaism

Жыл бұрын

​@@tomstorey8559 The Russians were most responsible for the victory in ww2. The massive red army killed 80 percent of German soldiers during the war in the eastern front. The British took out the German airforce and navy. The Americans did very little.

Because we have bigger and better foes?

Don't know what they talking about. It's Deutschland Niederlande

For me our biggest rivals are Italy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if in a few years time england close that gap. As Rafa pointed out the premier leagues visibility has definitely improved the awareness about English football. Before you might only have read about it and occasionally seen a match in the cl and moved on with your life. Then there is also the difference in philosophy when it comes to football. The germans far more traditional one and pride in fan owned clubs vs the english one that is more commercialized with investors and cups named after energy drinks.

@lukerobinson3983

2 жыл бұрын

Erm Rb Leipzig?

@SN27671

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukerobinson3983 I don’t know what you’re talking about. The Rb stands for the totally not made up word of „Rasenballsport“ and has nothing to do with a certain austrian energy drink. The club is also very popular with the germans because of it’s rich history and its representation of our values with a massive total of 21 members who have voting rights.🤥

@lukerobinson3983

2 жыл бұрын

@@SN27671 try again

@lukerobinson3983

2 жыл бұрын

RB Leipzig, play at the red bull arena, known informally as red bull Leipzig or die rotten bullen. The club was founded in 2009 by Red Bull. Might be a good idea to do some research pal.

@SN27671

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukerobinson3983 it’s called sarcasm dude hence the pinocchio emoji lol 😂

Im sure if England knock Germany out of a few more tournaments 🙂we can be a higher tier rival. It will never be nasty like Germany and Holland thankfully

I thought Germany’s biggest rival were the Dutch.... at least historically

@corvus2512

2 жыл бұрын

Nvm, he mentioned the Dutch... i really like Rafa... quite a good reporter

Did England not know?

I'm thinking it's cause maybe we english use the wars as a root of the rivalry where as if on the flip side Germany returned this rivalry it would kind of be a bit awkward as its kind of continuing the side of the na*is etc where as they'd probably rather Bury it

One of the things that people on the German side and in the media never seem to account for, and understandably so, are the two world wars. In England, a lot of people still weirdly derive a great deal of pride from imperial Britain (while whitewashing all of the abhorrent things that were carried out on behalf of queen/king and country), and the triumph in WW2 in particular is the cherry on the top of that cake. Add that to these soul-crushing defeats to the germans in football over several years, and that's where I feel the English side of the rivalry stems from. Makes me wonder whether the Germans would feel it more if they weren't so keen to minimise mention of WW2 in any capacity.

Polands rivalry’s with Germany are very similar to Englands with Germany. In Poland it is a national event, due to the 1974 World Cup with the best Poland team being defeated by West Germany in the semi finals. Also at the time, Poland was a communist country, and West Germany was a capitalist country, and with the 1939 German invasion of Poland still fresh in many Poles minds, this further fuelled the rivalry. Add to that the two are right next door to one another. In Germany, Poland aren’t returned the favour. They’re no more seen as a rival than Spain or Denmark.

I am in the ultrascene since 1982 , I completely disagree! England is only one sided but big games I don’t care so much since their not a top nation. Italy , France and Spain are giants and we are full of respect. The game I don’t want to loose and what triggers anger is Oranje and nothing else. Holland is by farr our biggest Rival. England hates as and wants to beat us and that’s why it’s fun to beat them other then that I couldn’t care less about them

@DA-of9sv

2 жыл бұрын

I don't hate you 😘 nothing but respect 💯 so does alot of English people. Yeah alot sing ww2 songs and mention the war because that's the only time we beat you in anything meaningful. Germany in football terms in a superpower as Is Brazil and Italy. I was cheering like we had won the world Cup when Harry kane scored the second goal the other night. That's because we respect just how good you are in tournaments.

Sorry guys, but honestly, nobody in Germany cares about Premier League. The rivalry wont start because of the Premier League

@user-oz3vl4xd1k

2 жыл бұрын

La liga is better.

Been a Germany fan since 82' because of their football and England really never inspired me even with Gazza ,Pearce ,Lineker etc and England fans have been dreaming since 66' while Germany as a football nation has been playing beautiful football and winning tournaments so no England aren't Germany's rival because Germany outclass them all the time.

never were the Netherlands are our biggest rivals

Its Netherlands

Allways a good listen Raphael...now Germany are slipping to Scotland's level...are they our biggest rival anymore..????....🤣😅

Italy over France?

@mmartijn78

Жыл бұрын

Netherlands by far

I think every European country think Germany are thier rival but Germany really don’t see any of them

@Frserthegreenengine

2 жыл бұрын

Apart from Italy and the Netherlands

I would have the Dutch as the biggest rivals for the Germans

😂😂🤭 Four World Cups & three European Championships against one World Cup, England are insignificant compared to Germany.

@GuinessOriginal

2 жыл бұрын

I think the Germans have been to more semi finals than any other team in the world. Ib think they’ve won more semi finals and lost more finals than any other team too. That’s how good Germany have been

Germany's biggest rival in football is Italy cause Germany has 7 major trophies 4 world cups and 3 euro's and Italy has 4 world cups and 2 euro's only 1 trophy behind Germany and Italy beat Germany in a world cup final England only has 1 trophy so they cannot be Close rivals with Germany

Iam German and i Think ur Rival is Germany more because past Wars then because Football.We dont have so a good Relationship with our Past ( Hitler , Nazis ) and England wont forget it.In Football we got harder Rivals then England in Italy , France , Nederlande and at least comes England.Germans can speak English too and English is a Part of German Culture .For Example we Germans can all speak low english and understanding ur language very well.

Is it because we knocked them out the Euros and they're still bitter? 🤔

If I had to rank the rivals for the german nationalteam it would probably go: Italy, Netherlands, Argentina, France and then England.

@desperado1736

2 жыл бұрын

I feel Brazil is more of a rival to Germany than Argentina

@robertnolan5785

2 жыл бұрын

@@desperado1736 Germany and Argentina played each other in 3 world cup finals though, a lot of history there.

@ciaranoconnell4783

2 жыл бұрын

@@desperado1736 Brazil vs Germany has no heat. It's only a big game at World Cups because over how successful each nation has been.

@princesofthepower3690

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertnolan5785 France is probably above Germany due some of the matches these teams have played and the cultural history.

Is it true that Germans see a game against England as irrelevant (I am an England fan btw)

This is a country with 4 World Cups and 3 Euros man, the beef only exists because of the World Wars and more from our side because of 1996/2010

@ebbeb9827

2 жыл бұрын

the ww2 beef is so weird, no Germans care about that and are very happy that the Nazis lost. And even if it was taken seriously, it was the Russians and America that won the war, the UK contribution is exaggerated

Easy.Because England football team is not on the same level as Germany.Not even close.

Brilliance of the premier league. Lel...a bunch of play things for criminals from russia to islamists, wall street gangsters and other lovely people. Come back when there appears a football club again in one of your professional leagues.

Realistically your greatest rivals should be Portugal FC 😁😁. Honorable mentions: Scotland

Coz we're shite

I've got Dutch mates who hate the Germans because of WW2

Ah the English, like Americans always trying to build a narrative and seem more important than they are.

Maybe the Germans should have took the rivalry more seriously perhaps

@emir.e99

2 жыл бұрын

Lol no they won't

@jodu626

2 жыл бұрын

@@emir.e99 maybe they should have was my point. Now they are back home

@emir.e99

2 жыл бұрын

@@jodu626 i don't they will in term historical England is no where's near them in term success.german has 4 england has 1 world cup.....maybe in club terms they rival got heated up

@AzizDoufikar2280

7 ай бұрын

Yeah,should have taken the so-called "rivalry" against England seriously so Germany can smash England more

@jodu626

7 ай бұрын

@@AzizDoufikar2280 the last 3 games have been 2 draws and England win. not sure you’re up to date my friend.

No teeth and bleeding heads! 😁😁😁😁😁

I feel this is some kind of German roose to claim England is not their rival, like Arsenal and Man Utd fans like to claim Spurs and Man City are not their rival when they clearly are. It is like Germans trying to put England down by saying they are not successful enough to be Germany's rival. Italy, France and Netherlands is a sporting rivalry with Germany. England vs Germany is a rivalry that transcends sport because it is a cultural rivalry. Raphael Honigstein can claim it one sided rivalry, but why those the England vs Germany game get the highest TV ratings in Germany if Germans so see it as big? England has what Germany wants. England has influenced the modern world more than any European country, exporting it's and language culture globally, meaning England has global relevance on every continent and soft power Germany can only dream of. This slightly irks Germans because Germany is the most economically powerful European country, but do not have level of cultural influence of England and this causes slight envy in Germans that other European countries don't have on Germans. You can see that on how negatively the German media reports on any thing English compared to other European countries. Even Klopp said England was a far nicer country to live in than how the German media portray it. Remember after German speaking countries and USA Britain has most German people outside of Germany.

@princesofthepower3690

2 жыл бұрын

So in other words it’s just a cultural rivalry over old beef . And do you have any evidence to show that England vs Germany games get the highest TV ratings in Germany. Go ask any German football fan and they will tell you that they consider the Dutch , Italians and maybe even the French as their biggest rivals . So I think this so called is an overplayed , overhyped English narrative , to make themselves feel more competitive internationally than they actually are . And let’s be honest , generally speaking Spurs and Man City were never really rivals to Arsenal and Man United ( in terms of legacy , influence and dominance over the English League ) , they were merely rivals in a Geographical and Cultural sense . The same thing applies with England and Germany.

@AzizDoufikar2280

Жыл бұрын

Germany,Italy made more impacts on the world than England what are you on about?

@Delboy0

Жыл бұрын

@@AzizDoufikar2280 hahaha, you say this seriously while you type on in English on World Wide Web, things created by English people. You either hate English people so much you don't want to accept the truth or you are so ignorant about history that you don't know that most of the things around that you take for granted came from Britain.

@Delboy0

Жыл бұрын

@@princesofthepower3690 Yes that is what a rivalry is, which is England vs Germany games get bigger viewership than the so called sporting rivalry because it transcends winning trophies.

England is so weak, they will be kicked out by any team :)))

@dimebagdirty

2 жыл бұрын

2-0 mate, eat your words.

The main reason for the german dutch rivalry is they have so much history together going back thousends of years , Good bad ugly , Loads of cooperation through out the centuries , royal houses beeing related , holly roman empire , Hanziatic leagues , trade culture war with several german states and aliances with several geman states ww2 , 1974 would be the trigger . England never was a rival of germany or any of the german states. And to be perfectly honoust , its the 6 nations Belgium France , Germany Italy and netherlands that are the real rivals . of each other. as not only they have been influanced by each other but also where part of the same Carolingian and Frankish empire .before they got split in 4 parts due inherantance rules. 6 siblings fighting each other.

Fact: with the exception to the dubious 1966 WC. England never reached any finals. Neither World Cup nor Euro (remarkable🤯). Yet somehow, they call the clash against Germany a "rivalry" (4 WC, 3 runnerups, 3 Euros, 3 runner-ups).

@MrJayrenD

2 жыл бұрын

It's not really a footballing rivalry as most people understand it. It's more of a (now redundant) and imo 'silly' cultural rivalry stemming from the world wars. The English haven't matured as much socially when it comes to these things as the English have unfortunately