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But they could’ve done 24 and still kept the straight mag.
@yudodis
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I'd still want the last round. You never know when you'll need it
@cletusburgerboy9143
Ай бұрын
Nope. That extra round may seem inconsequential, but it is extremely important. It's a 25+1 for a reason, best kept that way.
@BigWheel.
Ай бұрын
Maybe you could count off bursts and then reload when you're on the +1
@thezuck8157
Ай бұрын
@@BigWheel.Big brain 🧠
@ParanoydYT
Ай бұрын
You know you’re out when you only shoot 1
It also functionally tells you when you're out, if you see 1 damage number instead of 3 u gotta reload
@violetwyvern6289
Ай бұрын
I see you don’t shoot for a hobby or a living
@linfraredl4906
Ай бұрын
@@violetwyvern6289 I see you can't comprehend a shitpost, I'm a range master so try again
@Div1ne_1
Ай бұрын
@linfraredl4906 the guy with anime pfp is definitely a rangemaster
@josephmuradyan6161
Ай бұрын
@@linfraredl4906 being a range master definitely doesn’t help your case as someone who isn’t incompetent about guns, having the anime pfp does indicate you’re not a complete fudd though
@thatguythatstoleyourlunch3189
Ай бұрын
@@josephmuradyan6161it’s a meme you pedantic goobers
Another potential factor: 8 bursts of 3 is 24. 1 extra stays in the chamber when you change mags. Don’t need to recharge the bolt.
@cameronincorporated
Ай бұрын
But then after that, it’s 1 in the chamber + 25. You’ll fire 8 bursts of 3 again and then have a burst of 2 at the end.
@flare9757
Ай бұрын
@@cameronincorporated This is true. But it means as long as you count 8 trigger pulls per mag, you’ll have some spare ammo, but you can fast reload without the charging handle.
@larslevinberget9558
Ай бұрын
That is really neat!
@Emmanuel322977
Ай бұрын
YES THANK I WAS THINKING THIS IN MY HEAD😅😅😅
@LeInternetcockroach
Ай бұрын
Or you use the last one on yourself to not get captured
two additional things too about why 25: before the FAMAS, the French Army rifle was the mas 49/56, whose ammo came on 5-rounds stripper clip and making the mags 25 rounders allowed the MAS to reuse some of the machines and jigs used to make MAS 49 mags
@truc2fou915
Ай бұрын
You can use 5 rounds stripper to do 30 rounds mag nah?
@quentintin1
Ай бұрын
@@truc2fou915 you can indeed but like mentioned in the video, doing a 30 rounder would have required to curve the mag, and like i mentioned it would have needed new equipment to be able to produce those mags, which would have raised the magazine costs wouldn't have it good then? maybe, but also like the early USGI M16 mags, FAMAS mags were supposed to be disposable, so cost was a big factor
@TheSchultinator
Ай бұрын
This makes far more sense than other reasons I've seen
@desertdude540
Ай бұрын
@@TheSchultinator Whenever something seems slightly off about magazine capacity, it usually turns out to be a multiple of however many rounds fit in a pre-existing ammunition package.
@AngelG93
28 күн бұрын
Two things make this seem like the right answer along with the reasons given in the short: 1. Doctrine was different then, and loading from stripper clips seemed reasonable and definitely cost effective. 2. No one was counting how many bursts they fired, much less how many rounds per burst. Not to mention militaries are trained to shoot single fire. The 1 in the chamber argument makes no sense.
To be clear, the burst and the magazine have nothing to do with one another. That is why. The 25 round magazine was put into the design for one reason or another, but the burst functionality is completely separate. Especially since the rifle actually has 30 round magazines.
@TriviumQuadrivium
19 күн бұрын
well put. 3 round burst is the standard. Trying to relate the rifle and the mag is so arbitrary and simple minded
@deadahead6775
18 күн бұрын
Only the FAMAS G2, bought by the Marine Nationale, have STANAG 30 rounders. All F1s have the old 25.
Because once you expand 24 rounds you’ll still have one remaining for yourself.
@TheHaughtyOsprey
Ай бұрын
Very French......
@EagleSix52
29 күн бұрын
Are we fighting against Dark Eldar from Warhammer 40k or smt?
@bmw328igearhead
28 күн бұрын
"...expend..."
@benny4162
28 күн бұрын
E X P A N D D O N G
@danielsass1826
28 күн бұрын
Wow that's dark
I figured it was a good reload indicator. You get 8 3-round bursts. When your gun only shoots once, you know it's empty.
@helikopterbojowyka-5234
27 күн бұрын
That’s actually pretty smart since sometimes (especially in combat) it’s hard to tell if it’s not bullet that got stuck
@troyhenry6111
27 күн бұрын
No. Count pulls out check mag. Single round is pointless
@redeye4516
27 күн бұрын
@troyhenry6111 1. It means there's no "click" when you pull the trigger, you've still shot at the guy and you can now immediately reload instead of sitting there clicking the empty gun as your enemy lines you up in his sights. Yeah, you could just count the bursts, but in a firefight, things are hectic enough as it is. A three round burst sounds and feels different from a single round firing, giving you a sort of two-factor warning that your gun is now empty. And, if the gun has jammed, or otherwise malfunctioned, you'll either know immediately because there was no single shot or you'll have your magazine out and see that there's still bullets inside, letting you get a head start on unfucking your lifeline. 2. France. The French copy no one, and no one copies the French. Fundamental rule for dealing with anything to do with them, like how they made a car with two small engines located in the front and the rear instead of just giving it one normal engine. Same guys who strode onto the fields of battle in 1914 dressed in bright red, white, and blue uniforms because they looked like the French flag instead of switching to brown or grey or green like literally all of their neighbors did like 10 years beforehand.
@troyhenry6111
27 күн бұрын
@redeye4516 1. Is a fantasy situation. You should be counting bursts. And since we are just ignoring counting like you should be doing, then we can also pretend you dont notice the difference between a two round burst and a three. See how you assumed they started without 1 in the chamber. I can just assume stupid arguments also. I spent 12 years in the military. You count. 2. Umm yea sure they purposely design it poorly so that invalidates me some how
@redeye4516
27 күн бұрын
@troyhenry6111 Well like I said, "should" doesn't always mean "is" in the field. Sometimes you'd see guys in a firefight wearing their armor and nothing else because they just woke up. Some guys also bust crotch holes in their pants for ventilation even though they really shouldn't. But alright, on that same merit, let's assume that the soldier has reloaded mid-mag and there's now 2 extra rounds in the gun. That's still a two-round burst, not 3. I can notice the difference between 2 shots and 3 coming from my gun. And well, I'm just saying part of why they'd have it this way, it wasn't meant to be a competition or trying to infringe on you or something. But you do you I suppose.
I thought that straight m16 mags was a Mandela effected memory. Thank you for this reminder!
@dannya1854
16 күн бұрын
They first used 20 round magazines during the Vietnam war, they eventually adopted 30 round magazines.
@nkgoodal
15 күн бұрын
@@dannya1854- the 20s were pretty sought after in the early 2000s when I was in (99-21). They fed better, which we attributed to a shorter spring, and the lack of curve. Also, this dude is WAY overstating the importance of 3 round burst. We almost always fired single, aimed shots. Bursts eat up ammo quickly.
The real answer for the question is the 3 round burst feature was an afterthought and not apart of the original design.
@Laotzu.Goldbug
29 күн бұрын
Bingo. All the other answers here about how it is actually some nifty trick to remind you when you're empty, or keep a round in the chamber when reloading, some other nonsense is pure fantasy. (Not too dissimilar to the myth that the Garand ping somehow let the enemy knew you were out of ammo, a comment that could only be made by people who don't actually consider the reality of combat).
@brainfart22
26 күн бұрын
Thank you. I hate these damn click bait shorts that don't deliver on what they promise in the title
@black_thunder2159
26 күн бұрын
exactly!
@azharp9391
26 күн бұрын
@@brainfart22 yeah am I trippin' or did the guy never even actually touched on why it's got 3 round burst? All he said was the 25 round mags store easier than curved mags and that's it
@MrNotBot
24 күн бұрын
@@azharp9391 He never did. 3 round burst exists as a compensation for lack of training/experience, it allows unexperienced soldiers to fire bursts without dumping the entire mag when they are pumped with adrenaline.
French guns are like french cars: very weird, but also charming in a way
@HARRAWISH
25 күн бұрын
tanks too
@LET4M4RU
24 күн бұрын
Liberté, Égalité, Renault Coupé 🇫🇷
@berberecivilise2825
23 күн бұрын
@@LET4M4RU😂
@richtenamore1364
23 күн бұрын
SOME of them lol
@JimboJuice
23 күн бұрын
If only we could say the same about the people.
Means you always know when the burst is done too
@aweskome4894
Ай бұрын
Not really, sometimes burst will only set of 2 rounds and other times 5. Really depends on the conditions.
@Stand_watie
Ай бұрын
@@aweskome4894 It is practically useless
@nikoraasu6929
Ай бұрын
@@Stand_watie"manually" burst firing from in full auto is preferred from what I heard
@black_thunder2159
26 күн бұрын
u wont notice my guy, that gun fires 1200 rounds a minute, that's a myth. the real reason is simply because its an afterthought, the first batch production of FAMAS never had 3-round burst, they just added it later cuz the requirement changes, & they adapted.
@Siweyautism-q9h
6 күн бұрын
1200 is crazy, its only 1000 max for burst
I just noticed that the bipod on these look like a long-handled ratcheting wrench.
@gatsbysgarage8389
28 күн бұрын
I was about to say the same
That was in the 80s, it has a different mag now
@coolbean9880
Ай бұрын
false, the famas f models continue using the straight 25 round magazines to this day, only the navy uses the famas g models with 30 round stanags
@josefish5193
Ай бұрын
@@coolbean9880 You have no idea what you're talking about.
@bluecaptainIT
Ай бұрын
@@josefish5193 he's right though
@eeruur
Ай бұрын
idk who's right and i dont care to research
@aliceakosota797
29 күн бұрын
@@bluecaptainITdidn't they ditch these rifles for hk416?
I'm so glad he explained why
>be french >made one gun that shoots 3 bullets at once >mag capacity is not divisible by 3
@elathiaskade7311
27 күн бұрын
Hell is where the engineers are French…
@fabuxverchatura
25 күн бұрын
who are you beefing with
Id also like to bet the VAST majority of shots coming out of the Famas are semi automatic in real use
It could also be that you usually don't want to max out the magazine's capacity with 25 rounds, so it will be loaded up to 24 instead. It makes it fit easier and is just simpler. Just because a magazine can hold a particular amount, doesn't mean you have to fill it to the top.
@dariushajnala5562
24 күн бұрын
This is such an idiotic comment holy shit. Please show me a SINGLE active duty soldier that would prefer to have less-than-max amount of bullets in their magazine? The reason why it has 25 rounds is so that you know when you ran out of ammo and have to reload.
@richtenamore1364
23 күн бұрын
Why would you usually not fill your mags?
@carlemilknudsen3438
17 күн бұрын
@@richtenamore1364 my father told me they usually put one less round in their mags so they werent as prone to jamming
I think a lot of people mistake that the 3 round burst isn't to evenly divide into the magazine but more that it's been seen to be the best amount of rounds for an effective burst. Running out of ammo is running out of ammo, no two ways about it, this discussion would also assume that you've fired your 8 full bursts rapidly without ever having time or concerns of reloading, which you typically would if you've dispensed that much supersonic lead-love.
@KuiperbeltPluto
Ай бұрын
Exactly, three round burst is more for the impact rather than ammo conservation
@black_thunder2159
26 күн бұрын
hence why the real answer is that the 3 round burst for 25 round mag is simply just an afterthought, we literally knew this because the first batches of FAMAS doesnt have 3 round burst, just full auto & semi auto. they just added 3 round burst later on.
I carried an AR-15 as a rifle operator when I was a Cop. We were initially given 20 round metal mags but we had so many malfunctions that we switched to 30 round mags,and had no problems.
Really intricate questions when the rifle was probably used in semi 99% of the time anyway.
@theploot8230
25 күн бұрын
That's why full auto is a dumb idea that they a still keep.
@CrossroadsReloaded
25 күн бұрын
@@theploot8230 Yes. FAMAS G2 ROF: 1200 rpm. That's MG42 territory. It can dump a 30 rounds magazine in 1.5 seconds. Where/when would that be of any use, I don't know. 😂
You normally keep one less bullet in the mag because the gun malfunctions more if you dont
@tritium77
26 күн бұрын
that only affects the AR platform and it doesn't cause malfunctions, just makes it harder to seat the magazine when the bolt is closed
@stephenhood2948
26 күн бұрын
No, I load all of my magazines to 30 rds and never have a failure to feed. The only time I have ever had feeding issues on my AR is using steel cased ammo. Full magazines take a bit more effort to seat into a rifle with a closed bolt, that is it. If your rifle is having feeding problems ck your magazines for damaged feed lips or the rifle for a damaged feed ramp. All ARs should have M4 feed ramps for reliable feeding.
You know what's funnier than 24?
@ashtonnix7707
25 күн бұрын
Lemme hear it
@highoncyanide8023
25 күн бұрын
@@ashtonnix7707 bro abr to do a muscle man joke
@ashtonnix7707
25 күн бұрын
@@highoncyanide8023 "25~"
@Seany1
23 күн бұрын
@@highoncyanide8023 please tell me you're joking
@clongshanks5206
4 күн бұрын
96
Thank you!! I've wondered about that for years & years!
I've always wondered this, why do rifle mags that go above 25 rounds have to curve, but pistol mags that go above 25 don't? Take a Tec-9 for example here, it has something like a 30 round mag and it doesn't curve.
@Evictiorama
25 күн бұрын
It's because pistol cartridges generally aren't necked like rifles so they stacked more evenly under spring pressure (nice WoF pfp, dork)
Its actually so that you know when you are out of ammo because this gun doesn't hold the bolt open on your last shot so you know when you need to reload when you only get a two round bursrt
@ChatGPTreally
Ай бұрын
Sorry, two round? Never learned math bud?
@pinyw683
Ай бұрын
@@ChatGPTreallyThe rifle could also have a round in the chamber so the total amount of rounds could be 26
@Stolach_AK_AR
Ай бұрын
@@ChatGPTreally same to you, where did you get 2 rounds? 25-> 24+1 = 8 times full 3 rounds and 1 extra round for a notice that your gun is empty
@ChatGPTreally
Ай бұрын
@@Stolach_AK_AR i didnt get two rounds, hence my comment senior
@Stolach_AK_AR
Ай бұрын
@@ChatGPTreally Oh, sorry I read it wrong, then that previous comment of mine is now aimed at @baylog9679 , I'm apologizing again for not reading it right.
*french forgetting how to count*: “Oh yes it is easy to store! That’s totally what we were going for.”
@mid1429
Ай бұрын
They have a wird counting system
@Valhalla5133
Ай бұрын
@@mid1429 fr fr
Also, there's no question when you're empty. It goes: Badadap, badadap, badadap, badadap, badadap, badadap, badadap, badadap, Bap. (Now empty) reload, repeat as necessary.
This doesn't answer the question about why they had the burst, it answers one about why they had 25 round mags
@LachsChaos187
26 күн бұрын
The burst was never in question
@yoface2537
26 күн бұрын
@LachsChaos187 the way it is phased the magazines are the given but the burst is what is being questioned
@XtreeM_FaiL
17 күн бұрын
Mag size and burst are not related in any way.
The Famas was also originally meant to take disposable 1 time use magazines, but that worked out exactly as you'd expect, so the French record of being a disappointment to literally everyone involved remains intact.
@wildbill6976
23 күн бұрын
disposable one time use applies to rifle itself too... after it's fired, they can tie a white rag to the barrel and wave it at the enemy...
Huh, thought the reason would be so the last burst is shorter thus queuing to the shooter that the mag is empty.
@calicat4651
Ай бұрын
This sounds like a good answer till you consider that it'd be the last thing someone focuses on in combat, youd notice it'd be empty when it goes click
@RWR-nq4gd
Ай бұрын
Cueing. Queueing is standing in lines. Cue is the root word.
Also, good thing it comes with that socket wrench too..
@_Scipio__Africanus_
20 күн бұрын
Whoa the King of Akron himself in my comments???
@Aware_of_myshelf
20 күн бұрын
@@_Scipio__Africanus_ that’s right VITCH!!!! it’s been 7 yearssss. Now leave me, my friends and my family ALONE!!!
It was so incredibly useful they used STANAG curved 30 round mags with the very next variant of the gun. It's way more likely this was done to notify the user of his magazine being almost empty.
@_Scipio__Africanus_
19 күн бұрын
Clearly dont watch Ian if you think that, lmao
So each mag gives 8 3 round bursts with 1 round left? Is it just count to 8 then reload? If so then is wasting 1 round every mag after the first mag? Like: From empty chamber, load 25. Fire 24 via 8 bursts. Last burst cycles the 25th into chamber, leaving 1st mag empty. But repeating with next mags will leave 1 in magazine after 8th burst.
@CaptainHesperus
Ай бұрын
I don't think your math maths. 25 round mag, 8 bursts of three rounds leaves 1 in the chamber. Reload second 25 round mag, gun now has 26 rounds (25 in mag plus one from previous mag in the chamber). Firing 8 bursts would then result in 24 rounds expended, one in the chamber, one remaining in the mag.
1 in the chamber 25 in the mag
@notaveragecr6041
Ай бұрын
So, 8 three round bursts and then 1 two round burst?
@cobracamp5005
Ай бұрын
@@notaveragecr6041 I just realized my math was wrong 💀
@NinjaFresh
Ай бұрын
@@cobracamp5005 lol I was like 26 isn't divisible by 3 evenly.
@HalFromTartary
Ай бұрын
@@cobracamp5005I love how confident you were, I could do with that kinda assurance and self-belief in my life
I remember those things looking so futuristic when they came out, now they look like an old relic
Galil: yes but I have 35 round mags.
When the full 3 round burst doesnt fire you know you're empty.
@Thecelestial1
28 күн бұрын
best explanation ive heard imo
Famas: ✅ Hamas: 🚫
@riyaansheikh7470
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@accelerator1666
28 күн бұрын
Wow real creative and topical
My uncle used one and spoke well of it. On the unusual magazine size, he described it as "One warning shot and twenty-four reminders you were warned."
I'd say it was more because the 3-round burst feature was implemented _after_ they had already selected the magazine design and it convoluted the entire purpose of the rifle... so the fact that there's a last round in the chamber after 8 volleys of 3, allowing a mag change without needing to rechamber the gun is just serendipity out of a mild goof-up on the French Defense Ministry's part. Still a cool design, imo.
Showed this to my brother he screamed “I love the Battle Rifle!!!”
Looks: 10/10 Capacity: 5/10 Function: 3/10
@jolanderphilip
Ай бұрын
Ho ho we we
The better question is why I've suddenly gone deaf in my left ear.
@ola_ola._.
16 күн бұрын
what
I love when he explained why it has 25 instead of 24 or 27
Famas is fired twice and dropped once
Cause those cowards aremt going to fight with it anyways so who cares right?
@nawm8
Ай бұрын
The French were stacking bodies before you were a twinkle in your dad's sack lmao.
@hansvader4864
Ай бұрын
Cue: Operation Serval.
@bababooey2893
Ай бұрын
I'm gonna guess you haven't seen anything they've done since WW2? Even then their surrender was largely due to mismanagement, and arguably the war on the Western front couldn't have been secured without the help of French revolutionary groups.
@Blaidd7542
Ай бұрын
France have won more battles than any other country on earth, shortly followed by the UK only 10 battles behind. The 3rd country is the US who is hundreds behind both, 272 battles behind the UK and 282 battles behind France. France and the UK are in a complete league of their own compared to any other nation on earth when it comes to winning battles.
@turnermd1302
Ай бұрын
@@Blaidd7542 Maybe hundreds of years ago, neither country could stand their own in a near-peer conflict in the modern era, the UK's own government has openly stated this
Idk why but I’ve always loved the Famas. There’s something classy kind of art deco about it.
"1 bang means it's time to reload" is a pretty good indicator, too.
3 rounds burst at 1000 rpm. After a good polishing and tuning, it can be upped to 1200 rpm. It was thinked to do a multi-tapping up to 25m with one trigger pull and defeating body armor (from the era) in one "shot". Some of ours were tuned by the MAS technicians to achieve 1200 rpm, and we were able to put the 3 rounds on target at 50m while on bipods, and easily 2 at 25m while standing. Remember, we rarely used the burst (full and 3), but only consecutive singles. Burst was for CQB, and full for suppressing / destruction. And the magazine can hold 25 (26), but was in fact loaded with 24 due to a possible jam caused by the very high cycle rate (the first is fired, and while ejecting a second can pops up and jam the bolt open) and the high pressure of the mag spring. In five years, it happened only one time to me. But it can happen. Plus, we carried more mags than our US counterparts. Smaller, but more. :) And the rifle weight less, and the shorter size was perfect for prone and bipods position.
Also remember that on some 3 round burst weapons they reset if you let off the trigger mid-burst, and others do not reset but continue with the remainder of the burst. Plus it's the first shot that is most likely to hit, so even the last single shot is nearly as good as a burst.
Bad triggers are extremely hard to get reliable bursts with. But for example. Modern AR triggers are very easy to be consistent double or triple.
When your famas only shoots one round instead of 3, it lets the user know its time to reload
Loved the Fa-mas since Metal Gear Solid, great gun. Want one.
Some soldiers don't load their mags to the brim so the spring tension is more reliable.
Part of the reason why I also think it has a 3 round burst is because of that insane French crackhead fire rate. 1100 rpm is pretty insane for a main issue rifle. You need to be able to do accurate bursts of fire, which may be more difficult with the fire rate, so it'd make sense to have a burst fire mode.
It's obviously because your reload speed is faster when there's already a bullet in the chamber 🙄 even without quick hands and the mag attachment 🥶🥶
That bullet setback on the 5.56 stripper is worth investigating 😮😮
brain: just make curved pockets me: wait...
@the_beast183
26 күн бұрын
Curved boxes aren’t a thing
@skyekross
26 күн бұрын
@@the_beast183 i googled and it showed me not so tightfit pouches with straps to keep the mag inplace. that works
@skyekross
25 күн бұрын
@@the_beast183had to re-watch the video maybe I heard it wrong. He mentioned that why they didn't invent a curved mag was because of storage. My point still stands. Also I googled curved mag pouches and I got pouches that are compatible with curved mags.
I thought my headphones disconnected but your video just has it playing in my right ear for some reason
It makes your finals burst distinctive also. *BOOM* *CLICK* *CLOCK* If youve fired one then you know how handy it actually would be. Not just for you but also comrades
i identify as a 25 round magazine
I remember hearing the real reason was that the three-round burst came much later into the conception of the FAMAS, so they kept the mag design as is.
The M1918 BAR also has a 20 round straight magazine
@the_full_english
29 күн бұрын
How is that at all relevant 🤷♂️
What about a 24 round magazine?
Three-round burst is for people who are somewhat less than expert marksmen. So for frontline grunts, it absolutely works.
I’m not as familiar with the FAMAS as I am with AR platforms but there could also be the reason of after 8 bursts you could reload and avoid locking your bolt making your reloads just a bit faster.
@Evictiorama
25 күн бұрын
I think that's just a coincidence because after your first reload you'll have 25+1
I heard another reason for this is to let the shooter know when their magazine is empty, since the final burst would only shoot 2 rounds.
@_Scipio__Africanus_
28 күн бұрын
Burst was an afterthought that wasnt around when the mag was designed
The burst helps the barrel climb from center-mass to headshot with just one click.
Burt fire was made for conscripted soldiers. M16s were full auto day one. Wasn't till bill who got drafted from Arkansas and mag dumped 200 rounds in 3 minutes did they realize that maybe slowing fire rate is a good idea
Dude I'm a weapons expert for a living, I've replaced and worked on thousands and thousands of government issue mags. And I didn't know this! You're awesome, keep it up
When you have 5 round stripper clips and a 3 round burst... It's a fantastic little rifle tho.
That shit was insane when BF3 first came out
Ah, is that why the G3 chambered in 7,62mm had a straight 20 round mag? They're also quite heavy and we usually only had 90 rounds in 3 mags issued in total.
I load all my mags with minus 1 round, that way the weapon accepts the mag much better, less pressure on the spring, and if I load one ready into the chamber then I'm right back to 30 rounds total. The first round in the mag seems like it's more likely to cause a malfunction due to the extra pressure, so I just go ahead and eliminate that altogether.
It's also because you could see that the last burst was shorter than the others and know to reload
also hearing and feeling "BLAM BLAM BLAM, BLAM BLAM BLAM, BLAM" would probably give you a hint when you're out
Also because they decided on the burst feature *after* they settled on a 25 round mag.
I have those mags in 20 ct, got them from my grandfather, his M1 garand from ww2 and korea as well, was used by on dday
The most important thing about 25 rounds ist faft that in end you are left with single round that goes to chamber and you can reload faster
I always assumed because it’s a burst fire weapon that you would know u need to reload when u didn’t hear three cracks when u shot
The burst is ideal to control ammo use (thing has like 1200 RPM) and in a way when you get that final 2 round burst you know yohr empty, also if you top off before empty the 1 in rhe chamber gives you a divisor that works evenly
The last burst would only be a single shot, which would be a good way to get a shot off but also let you know you are out of ammo. Since the rifle doesn't have a last round bolt hold open feature. Not sure this was the original intent but it would be useful.
Thought it was bc the first run didnt have the burst feature but they (i think the army is 'they') wanted the burst feature so they added it but kept the smae 25rd mags. The theory is that the burst shoots the 3 bullets so fast that it would only feel like you pulled the trigger 1 time, leading to getting more bullets where you wanted them faster and more accurately
Actually the slightly curved magazine ar15 is a 30 round. But the suggested max load is 29 rounds.
Could be a misconception but an odd number of rounds would make it so the last "burst" fired would only be a single shot so it would be easier to tell your mag was empty.
@timo4463
28 күн бұрын
but you dont shoot bursts thats just for traning
They honestly could've modernised the Famas and configured the magwell into having AR mags and it would literally still hold up with modern technology. Hell yk the Austrians did that with the Aug, russians did it with the AK and americans did it with the AR15 platform
Mag round count likely doesn't matter, I believe the FAMAS has the same burst system as the M16 family, where there is a cam with 3 pawls/teeth. It maintains it's position such that the last time burst was used, if there was one tooth left, no matter how many rounds have been fired in between, when you pull the trigger on burst the next time, you will get a single round, then a 3 rd, throwing off your count. Basically unless you manually go through a procedure to dry fire and reset the burst cam every time, you really don't know what that first trigger pull is gonna be... 1,2,3rds could come out.
I always put it down to the French being unable to count...
When you let out 8 bangbangbangs and then the next one just goes bang, you know you're empty
Wild seeing you anywhere but ifunny
This is my worst OCD nightmare
Honestly despite the storage complications i think the FAMAS looks better with a curved mag
okay but why was there a rachet on the first gun 😭😭
I have always liked the Famas. The French sure make interesting firearms and the Famas has proven itself over the years. 👍
It’s a strange complaint to bring up seeing as I have never met anyone who expended an entire magazine via three round burst
@blackhawk7r221
Ай бұрын
It’s what we had during the miserable M-16A2 days. Long strings of 3 rd burst to lay down suppressive fire.
When you fire and get a single shot it's time to reload , that's why
@_Scipio__Africanus_
26 күн бұрын
Nope. Its def a plus, but the official reason was storage.
The famas is still my favorite gun. It just looks and sounds so nice to me.
What a side profile, always thought the FAMAS was pretty.
They were probably "F**k it, what ever" but in French.
It's actually a lot less smarter than that. It's just that they initially didn't think about the 3 round burst early in production, and as such they went with a design for a standard capacity mag. Then they added the 3round burst but the design was already too far up the line to go backwards. They corrected it in the G2 version and the Valorisé version, where it has a curved magazine with the correct amount for proper 3round bursts
@12LoLproductions
24 күн бұрын
It’s called NATO standardization, they swapped to the STANAG