Why does the Famas have a 3 round burst with 25 round mags?

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  • @smokestack3327
    @smokestack3327Ай бұрын

    But they could’ve done 24 and still kept the straight mag.

  • @yudodis

    @yudodis

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, I'd still want the last round. You never know when you'll need it

  • @cletusburgerboy9143

    @cletusburgerboy9143

    Ай бұрын

    Nope. That extra round may seem inconsequential, but it is extremely important. It's a 25+1 for a reason, best kept that way.

  • @BigWheel.

    @BigWheel.

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe you could count off bursts and then reload when you're on the +1

  • @thezuck8157

    @thezuck8157

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@BigWheel.Big brain 🧠

  • @ParanoydYT

    @ParanoydYT

    Ай бұрын

    You know you’re out when you only shoot 1

  • @linfraredl4906
    @linfraredl4906Ай бұрын

    It also functionally tells you when you're out, if you see 1 damage number instead of 3 u gotta reload

  • @violetwyvern6289

    @violetwyvern6289

    Ай бұрын

    I see you don’t shoot for a hobby or a living

  • @linfraredl4906

    @linfraredl4906

    Ай бұрын

    @@violetwyvern6289 I see you can't comprehend a shitpost, I'm a range master so try again

  • @Div1ne_1

    @Div1ne_1

    Ай бұрын

    ​@linfraredl4906 the guy with anime pfp is definitely a rangemaster

  • @josephmuradyan6161

    @josephmuradyan6161

    Ай бұрын

    @@linfraredl4906 being a range master definitely doesn’t help your case as someone who isn’t incompetent about guns, having the anime pfp does indicate you’re not a complete fudd though

  • @thatguythatstoleyourlunch3189

    @thatguythatstoleyourlunch3189

    Ай бұрын

    @@josephmuradyan6161it’s a meme you pedantic goobers

  • @flare9757
    @flare9757Ай бұрын

    Another potential factor: 8 bursts of 3 is 24. 1 extra stays in the chamber when you change mags. Don’t need to recharge the bolt.

  • @cameronincorporated

    @cameronincorporated

    Ай бұрын

    But then after that, it’s 1 in the chamber + 25. You’ll fire 8 bursts of 3 again and then have a burst of 2 at the end.

  • @flare9757

    @flare9757

    Ай бұрын

    @@cameronincorporated This is true. But it means as long as you count 8 trigger pulls per mag, you’ll have some spare ammo, but you can fast reload without the charging handle.

  • @larslevinberget9558

    @larslevinberget9558

    Ай бұрын

    That is really neat!

  • @Emmanuel322977

    @Emmanuel322977

    Ай бұрын

    YES THANK I WAS THINKING THIS IN MY HEAD😅😅😅

  • @LeInternetcockroach

    @LeInternetcockroach

    Ай бұрын

    Or you use the last one on yourself to not get captured

  • @quentintin1
    @quentintin1Ай бұрын

    two additional things too about why 25: before the FAMAS, the French Army rifle was the mas 49/56, whose ammo came on 5-rounds stripper clip and making the mags 25 rounders allowed the MAS to reuse some of the machines and jigs used to make MAS 49 mags

  • @truc2fou915

    @truc2fou915

    Ай бұрын

    You can use 5 rounds stripper to do 30 rounds mag nah?

  • @quentintin1

    @quentintin1

    Ай бұрын

    @@truc2fou915 you can indeed but like mentioned in the video, doing a 30 rounder would have required to curve the mag, and like i mentioned it would have needed new equipment to be able to produce those mags, which would have raised the magazine costs wouldn't have it good then? maybe, but also like the early USGI M16 mags, FAMAS mags were supposed to be disposable, so cost was a big factor

  • @TheSchultinator

    @TheSchultinator

    Ай бұрын

    This makes far more sense than other reasons I've seen

  • @desertdude540

    @desertdude540

    Ай бұрын

    @@TheSchultinator Whenever something seems slightly off about magazine capacity, it usually turns out to be a multiple of however many rounds fit in a pre-existing ammunition package.

  • @AngelG93

    @AngelG93

    28 күн бұрын

    Two things make this seem like the right answer along with the reasons given in the short: 1. Doctrine was different then, and loading from stripper clips seemed reasonable and definitely cost effective. 2. No one was counting how many bursts they fired, much less how many rounds per burst. Not to mention militaries are trained to shoot single fire. The 1 in the chamber argument makes no sense.

  • @dragonseatcheese8727
    @dragonseatcheese872724 күн бұрын

    To be clear, the burst and the magazine have nothing to do with one another. That is why. The 25 round magazine was put into the design for one reason or another, but the burst functionality is completely separate. Especially since the rifle actually has 30 round magazines.

  • @TriviumQuadrivium

    @TriviumQuadrivium

    19 күн бұрын

    well put. 3 round burst is the standard. Trying to relate the rifle and the mag is so arbitrary and simple minded

  • @deadahead6775

    @deadahead6775

    18 күн бұрын

    Only the FAMAS G2, bought by the Marine Nationale, have STANAG 30 rounders. All F1s have the old 25.

  • @klauschigurh3377
    @klauschigurh3377Ай бұрын

    Because once you expand 24 rounds you’ll still have one remaining for yourself.

  • @TheHaughtyOsprey

    @TheHaughtyOsprey

    Ай бұрын

    Very French......

  • @EagleSix52

    @EagleSix52

    29 күн бұрын

    Are we fighting against Dark Eldar from Warhammer 40k or smt?

  • @bmw328igearhead

    @bmw328igearhead

    28 күн бұрын

    "...expend..."

  • @benny4162

    @benny4162

    28 күн бұрын

    E X P A N D D O N G

  • @danielsass1826

    @danielsass1826

    28 күн бұрын

    Wow that's dark

  • @redeye4516
    @redeye451629 күн бұрын

    I figured it was a good reload indicator. You get 8 3-round bursts. When your gun only shoots once, you know it's empty.

  • @helikopterbojowyka-5234

    @helikopterbojowyka-5234

    27 күн бұрын

    That’s actually pretty smart since sometimes (especially in combat) it’s hard to tell if it’s not bullet that got stuck

  • @troyhenry6111

    @troyhenry6111

    27 күн бұрын

    No. Count pulls out check mag. Single round is pointless

  • @redeye4516

    @redeye4516

    27 күн бұрын

    @troyhenry6111 1. It means there's no "click" when you pull the trigger, you've still shot at the guy and you can now immediately reload instead of sitting there clicking the empty gun as your enemy lines you up in his sights. Yeah, you could just count the bursts, but in a firefight, things are hectic enough as it is. A three round burst sounds and feels different from a single round firing, giving you a sort of two-factor warning that your gun is now empty. And, if the gun has jammed, or otherwise malfunctioned, you'll either know immediately because there was no single shot or you'll have your magazine out and see that there's still bullets inside, letting you get a head start on unfucking your lifeline. 2. France. The French copy no one, and no one copies the French. Fundamental rule for dealing with anything to do with them, like how they made a car with two small engines located in the front and the rear instead of just giving it one normal engine. Same guys who strode onto the fields of battle in 1914 dressed in bright red, white, and blue uniforms because they looked like the French flag instead of switching to brown or grey or green like literally all of their neighbors did like 10 years beforehand.

  • @troyhenry6111

    @troyhenry6111

    27 күн бұрын

    @redeye4516 1. Is a fantasy situation. You should be counting bursts. And since we are just ignoring counting like you should be doing, then we can also pretend you dont notice the difference between a two round burst and a three. See how you assumed they started without 1 in the chamber. I can just assume stupid arguments also. I spent 12 years in the military. You count. 2. Umm yea sure they purposely design it poorly so that invalidates me some how

  • @redeye4516

    @redeye4516

    27 күн бұрын

    @troyhenry6111 Well like I said, "should" doesn't always mean "is" in the field. Sometimes you'd see guys in a firefight wearing their armor and nothing else because they just woke up. Some guys also bust crotch holes in their pants for ventilation even though they really shouldn't. But alright, on that same merit, let's assume that the soldier has reloaded mid-mag and there's now 2 extra rounds in the gun. That's still a two-round burst, not 3. I can notice the difference between 2 shots and 3 coming from my gun. And well, I'm just saying part of why they'd have it this way, it wasn't meant to be a competition or trying to infringe on you or something. But you do you I suppose.

  • @michaelflammer3622
    @michaelflammer362228 күн бұрын

    I thought that straight m16 mags was a Mandela effected memory. Thank you for this reminder!

  • @dannya1854

    @dannya1854

    16 күн бұрын

    They first used 20 round magazines during the Vietnam war, they eventually adopted 30 round magazines.

  • @nkgoodal

    @nkgoodal

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@dannya1854- the 20s were pretty sought after in the early 2000s when I was in (99-21). They fed better, which we attributed to a shorter spring, and the lack of curve. Also, this dude is WAY overstating the importance of 3 round burst. We almost always fired single, aimed shots. Bursts eat up ammo quickly.

  • @Tinfoil_Hardhat
    @Tinfoil_HardhatАй бұрын

    The real answer for the question is the 3 round burst feature was an afterthought and not apart of the original design.

  • @Laotzu.Goldbug

    @Laotzu.Goldbug

    29 күн бұрын

    Bingo. All the other answers here about how it is actually some nifty trick to remind you when you're empty, or keep a round in the chamber when reloading, some other nonsense is pure fantasy. (Not too dissimilar to the myth that the Garand ping somehow let the enemy knew you were out of ammo, a comment that could only be made by people who don't actually consider the reality of combat).

  • @brainfart22

    @brainfart22

    26 күн бұрын

    Thank you. I hate these damn click bait shorts that don't deliver on what they promise in the title

  • @black_thunder2159

    @black_thunder2159

    26 күн бұрын

    exactly!

  • @azharp9391

    @azharp9391

    26 күн бұрын

    ​@@brainfart22 yeah am I trippin' or did the guy never even actually touched on why it's got 3 round burst? All he said was the 25 round mags store easier than curved mags and that's it

  • @MrNotBot

    @MrNotBot

    24 күн бұрын

    @@azharp9391 He never did. 3 round burst exists as a compensation for lack of training/experience, it allows unexperienced soldiers to fire bursts without dumping the entire mag when they are pumped with adrenaline.

  • @LukasM1213
    @LukasM121328 күн бұрын

    French guns are like french cars: very weird, but also charming in a way

  • @HARRAWISH

    @HARRAWISH

    25 күн бұрын

    tanks too

  • @LET4M4RU

    @LET4M4RU

    24 күн бұрын

    Liberté, Égalité, Renault Coupé 🇫🇷

  • @berberecivilise2825

    @berberecivilise2825

    23 күн бұрын

    @@LET4M4RU😂

  • @richtenamore1364

    @richtenamore1364

    23 күн бұрын

    SOME of them lol

  • @JimboJuice

    @JimboJuice

    23 күн бұрын

    If only we could say the same about the people.

  • @FineCurry
    @FineCurryАй бұрын

    Means you always know when the burst is done too

  • @aweskome4894

    @aweskome4894

    Ай бұрын

    Not really, sometimes burst will only set of 2 rounds and other times 5. Really depends on the conditions.

  • @Stand_watie

    @Stand_watie

    Ай бұрын

    @@aweskome4894 It is practically useless

  • @nikoraasu6929

    @nikoraasu6929

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Stand_watie"manually" burst firing from in full auto is preferred from what I heard

  • @black_thunder2159

    @black_thunder2159

    26 күн бұрын

    u wont notice my guy, that gun fires 1200 rounds a minute, that's a myth. the real reason is simply because its an afterthought, the first batch production of FAMAS never had 3-round burst, they just added it later cuz the requirement changes, & they adapted.

  • @Siweyautism-q9h

    @Siweyautism-q9h

    6 күн бұрын

    1200 is crazy, its only 1000 max for burst

  • @ifistedabear
    @ifistedabearАй бұрын

    I just noticed that the bipod on these look like a long-handled ratcheting wrench.

  • @gatsbysgarage8389

    @gatsbysgarage8389

    28 күн бұрын

    I was about to say the same

  • @countcampula
    @countcampulaАй бұрын

    That was in the 80s, it has a different mag now

  • @coolbean9880

    @coolbean9880

    Ай бұрын

    false, the famas f models continue using the straight 25 round magazines to this day, only the navy uses the famas g models with 30 round stanags

  • @josefish5193

    @josefish5193

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@coolbean9880 You have no idea what you're talking about.

  • @bluecaptainIT

    @bluecaptainIT

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@josefish5193 he's right though

  • @eeruur

    @eeruur

    Ай бұрын

    idk who's right and i dont care to research

  • @aliceakosota797

    @aliceakosota797

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@@bluecaptainITdidn't they ditch these rifles for hk416?

  • @TranquillShot
    @TranquillShot26 күн бұрын

    I'm so glad he explained why

  • @ALC570
    @ALC570Ай бұрын

    >be french >made one gun that shoots 3 bullets at once >mag capacity is not divisible by 3

  • @elathiaskade7311

    @elathiaskade7311

    27 күн бұрын

    Hell is where the engineers are French…

  • @fabuxverchatura

    @fabuxverchatura

    25 күн бұрын

    who are you beefing with

  • @rubberwoody
    @rubberwoody26 күн бұрын

    Id also like to bet the VAST majority of shots coming out of the Famas are semi automatic in real use

  • @8thdayadventist911
    @8thdayadventist91126 күн бұрын

    It could also be that you usually don't want to max out the magazine's capacity with 25 rounds, so it will be loaded up to 24 instead. It makes it fit easier and is just simpler. Just because a magazine can hold a particular amount, doesn't mean you have to fill it to the top.

  • @dariushajnala5562

    @dariushajnala5562

    24 күн бұрын

    This is such an idiotic comment holy shit. Please show me a SINGLE active duty soldier that would prefer to have less-than-max amount of bullets in their magazine? The reason why it has 25 rounds is so that you know when you ran out of ammo and have to reload.

  • @richtenamore1364

    @richtenamore1364

    23 күн бұрын

    Why would you usually not fill your mags?

  • @carlemilknudsen3438

    @carlemilknudsen3438

    17 күн бұрын

    @@richtenamore1364 my father told me they usually put one less round in their mags so they werent as prone to jamming

  • @roymuerlunos2426
    @roymuerlunos2426Ай бұрын

    I think a lot of people mistake that the 3 round burst isn't to evenly divide into the magazine but more that it's been seen to be the best amount of rounds for an effective burst. Running out of ammo is running out of ammo, no two ways about it, this discussion would also assume that you've fired your 8 full bursts rapidly without ever having time or concerns of reloading, which you typically would if you've dispensed that much supersonic lead-love.

  • @KuiperbeltPluto

    @KuiperbeltPluto

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly, three round burst is more for the impact rather than ammo conservation

  • @black_thunder2159

    @black_thunder2159

    26 күн бұрын

    hence why the real answer is that the 3 round burst for 25 round mag is simply just an afterthought, we literally knew this because the first batches of FAMAS doesnt have 3 round burst, just full auto & semi auto. they just added 3 round burst later on.

  • @craigthescott5074
    @craigthescott5074Күн бұрын

    I carried an AR-15 as a rifle operator when I was a Cop. We were initially given 20 round metal mags but we had so many malfunctions that we switched to 30 round mags,and had no problems.

  • @CrossroadsReloaded
    @CrossroadsReloaded29 күн бұрын

    Really intricate questions when the rifle was probably used in semi 99% of the time anyway.

  • @theploot8230

    @theploot8230

    25 күн бұрын

    That's why full auto is a dumb idea that they a still keep.

  • @CrossroadsReloaded

    @CrossroadsReloaded

    25 күн бұрын

    @@theploot8230 Yes. FAMAS G2 ROF: 1200 rpm. That's MG42 territory. It can dump a 30 rounds magazine in 1.5 seconds. Where/when would that be of any use, I don't know. 😂

  • @volturnianlobster9350
    @volturnianlobster935029 күн бұрын

    You normally keep one less bullet in the mag because the gun malfunctions more if you dont

  • @tritium77

    @tritium77

    26 күн бұрын

    that only affects the AR platform and it doesn't cause malfunctions, just makes it harder to seat the magazine when the bolt is closed

  • @stephenhood2948

    @stephenhood2948

    26 күн бұрын

    No, I load all of my magazines to 30 rds and never have a failure to feed. The only time I have ever had feeding issues on my AR is using steel cased ammo. Full magazines take a bit more effort to seat into a rifle with a closed bolt, that is it. If your rifle is having feeding problems ck your magazines for damaged feed lips or the rifle for a damaged feed ramp. All ARs should have M4 feed ramps for reliable feeding.

  • @glasscoyote9687
    @glasscoyote968728 күн бұрын

    You know what's funnier than 24?

  • @ashtonnix7707

    @ashtonnix7707

    25 күн бұрын

    Lemme hear it

  • @highoncyanide8023

    @highoncyanide8023

    25 күн бұрын

    ​@@ashtonnix7707 bro abr to do a muscle man joke

  • @ashtonnix7707

    @ashtonnix7707

    25 күн бұрын

    @@highoncyanide8023 "25~"

  • @Seany1

    @Seany1

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@highoncyanide8023 please tell me you're joking

  • @clongshanks5206

    @clongshanks5206

    4 күн бұрын

    96

  • @iknowthings7367
    @iknowthings7367Ай бұрын

    Thank you!! I've wondered about that for years & years!

  • @evergreengaming2.053
    @evergreengaming2.05326 күн бұрын

    I've always wondered this, why do rifle mags that go above 25 rounds have to curve, but pistol mags that go above 25 don't? Take a Tec-9 for example here, it has something like a 30 round mag and it doesn't curve.

  • @Evictiorama

    @Evictiorama

    25 күн бұрын

    It's because pistol cartridges generally aren't necked like rifles so they stacked more evenly under spring pressure (nice WoF pfp, dork)

  • @baylog9679
    @baylog9679Ай бұрын

    Its actually so that you know when you are out of ammo because this gun doesn't hold the bolt open on your last shot so you know when you need to reload when you only get a two round bursrt

  • @ChatGPTreally

    @ChatGPTreally

    Ай бұрын

    Sorry, two round? Never learned math bud?

  • @pinyw683

    @pinyw683

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ChatGPTreallyThe rifle could also have a round in the chamber so the total amount of rounds could be 26

  • @Stolach_AK_AR

    @Stolach_AK_AR

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ChatGPTreally same to you, where did you get 2 rounds? 25-> 24+1 = 8 times full 3 rounds and 1 extra round for a notice that your gun is empty

  • @ChatGPTreally

    @ChatGPTreally

    Ай бұрын

    @@Stolach_AK_AR i didnt get two rounds, hence my comment senior

  • @Stolach_AK_AR

    @Stolach_AK_AR

    Ай бұрын

    @@ChatGPTreally Oh, sorry I read it wrong, then that previous comment of mine is now aimed at @baylog9679 , I'm apologizing again for not reading it right.

  • @Valhalla5133
    @Valhalla5133Ай бұрын

    *french forgetting how to count*: “Oh yes it is easy to store! That’s totally what we were going for.”

  • @mid1429

    @mid1429

    Ай бұрын

    They have a wird counting system

  • @Valhalla5133

    @Valhalla5133

    Ай бұрын

    @@mid1429 fr fr

  • @deadbrother5355
    @deadbrother535526 күн бұрын

    Also, there's no question when you're empty. It goes: Badadap, badadap, badadap, badadap, badadap, badadap, badadap, badadap, Bap. (Now empty) reload, repeat as necessary.

  • @yoface2537
    @yoface253726 күн бұрын

    This doesn't answer the question about why they had the burst, it answers one about why they had 25 round mags

  • @LachsChaos187

    @LachsChaos187

    26 күн бұрын

    The burst was never in question

  • @yoface2537

    @yoface2537

    26 күн бұрын

    @LachsChaos187 the way it is phased the magazines are the given but the burst is what is being questioned

  • @XtreeM_FaiL

    @XtreeM_FaiL

    17 күн бұрын

    Mag size and burst are not related in any way.

  • @steel8231
    @steel8231Ай бұрын

    The Famas was also originally meant to take disposable 1 time use magazines, but that worked out exactly as you'd expect, so the French record of being a disappointment to literally everyone involved remains intact.

  • @wildbill6976

    @wildbill6976

    23 күн бұрын

    disposable one time use applies to rifle itself too... after it's fired, they can tie a white rag to the barrel and wave it at the enemy...

  • @TheLateRepublic
    @TheLateRepublicАй бұрын

    Huh, thought the reason would be so the last burst is shorter thus queuing to the shooter that the mag is empty.

  • @calicat4651

    @calicat4651

    Ай бұрын

    This sounds like a good answer till you consider that it'd be the last thing someone focuses on in combat, youd notice it'd be empty when it goes click

  • @RWR-nq4gd

    @RWR-nq4gd

    Ай бұрын

    Cueing. Queueing is standing in lines. Cue is the root word.

  • @Aware_of_myshelf
    @Aware_of_myshelf20 күн бұрын

    Also, good thing it comes with that socket wrench too..

  • @_Scipio__Africanus_

    @_Scipio__Africanus_

    20 күн бұрын

    Whoa the King of Akron himself in my comments???

  • @Aware_of_myshelf

    @Aware_of_myshelf

    20 күн бұрын

    @@_Scipio__Africanus_ that’s right VITCH!!!! it’s been 7 yearssss. Now leave me, my friends and my family ALONE!!!

  • @ianfan1420
    @ianfan142019 күн бұрын

    It was so incredibly useful they used STANAG curved 30 round mags with the very next variant of the gun. It's way more likely this was done to notify the user of his magazine being almost empty.

  • @_Scipio__Africanus_

    @_Scipio__Africanus_

    19 күн бұрын

    Clearly dont watch Ian if you think that, lmao

  • @samuelhayes5198
    @samuelhayes5198Ай бұрын

    So each mag gives 8 3 round bursts with 1 round left? Is it just count to 8 then reload? If so then is wasting 1 round every mag after the first mag? Like: From empty chamber, load 25. Fire 24 via 8 bursts. Last burst cycles the 25th into chamber, leaving 1st mag empty. But repeating with next mags will leave 1 in magazine after 8th burst.

  • @CaptainHesperus

    @CaptainHesperus

    Ай бұрын

    I don't think your math maths. 25 round mag, 8 bursts of three rounds leaves 1 in the chamber. Reload second 25 round mag, gun now has 26 rounds (25 in mag plus one from previous mag in the chamber). Firing 8 bursts would then result in 24 rounds expended, one in the chamber, one remaining in the mag.

  • @cobracamp5005
    @cobracamp5005Ай бұрын

    1 in the chamber 25 in the mag

  • @notaveragecr6041

    @notaveragecr6041

    Ай бұрын

    So, 8 three round bursts and then 1 two round burst?

  • @cobracamp5005

    @cobracamp5005

    Ай бұрын

    @@notaveragecr6041 I just realized my math was wrong 💀

  • @NinjaFresh

    @NinjaFresh

    Ай бұрын

    @@cobracamp5005 lol I was like 26 isn't divisible by 3 evenly.

  • @HalFromTartary

    @HalFromTartary

    Ай бұрын

    @@cobracamp5005I love how confident you were, I could do with that kinda assurance and self-belief in my life

  • @backwoodsjunkie08
    @backwoodsjunkie0821 күн бұрын

    I remember those things looking so futuristic when they came out, now they look like an old relic

  • @winnchester95
    @winnchester9525 күн бұрын

    Galil: yes but I have 35 round mags.

  • @roadkillcatgirl3620
    @roadkillcatgirl3620Ай бұрын

    When the full 3 round burst doesnt fire you know you're empty.

  • @Thecelestial1

    @Thecelestial1

    28 күн бұрын

    best explanation ive heard imo

  • @TEMICXOCH909
    @TEMICXOCH909Ай бұрын

    Famas: ✅ Hamas: 🚫

  • @riyaansheikh7470

    @riyaansheikh7470

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @accelerator1666

    @accelerator1666

    28 күн бұрын

    Wow real creative and topical

  • @subtlewhatssubtle
    @subtlewhatssubtle21 күн бұрын

    My uncle used one and spoke well of it. On the unusual magazine size, he described it as "One warning shot and twenty-four reminders you were warned."

  • @Blitzkrieg_Wolf
    @Blitzkrieg_Wolf21 күн бұрын

    I'd say it was more because the 3-round burst feature was implemented _after_ they had already selected the magazine design and it convoluted the entire purpose of the rifle... so the fact that there's a last round in the chamber after 8 volleys of 3, allowing a mag change without needing to rechamber the gun is just serendipity out of a mild goof-up on the French Defense Ministry's part. Still a cool design, imo.

  • @destructivepanda5226
    @destructivepanda522626 күн бұрын

    Showed this to my brother he screamed “I love the Battle Rifle!!!”

  • @Dr.Randy.Butternubs
    @Dr.Randy.ButternubsАй бұрын

    Looks: 10/10 Capacity: 5/10 Function: 3/10

  • @jolanderphilip

    @jolanderphilip

    Ай бұрын

    Ho ho we we

  • @Immopimmo
    @Immopimmo18 күн бұрын

    The better question is why I've suddenly gone deaf in my left ear.

  • @ola_ola._.

    @ola_ola._.

    16 күн бұрын

    what

  • @user-hp4up7wz5g
    @user-hp4up7wz5g18 күн бұрын

    I love when he explained why it has 25 instead of 24 or 27

  • @thatoneguy45234
    @thatoneguy45234Ай бұрын

    Famas is fired twice and dropped once

  • @chriscabal3345
    @chriscabal3345Ай бұрын

    Cause those cowards aremt going to fight with it anyways so who cares right?

  • @nawm8

    @nawm8

    Ай бұрын

    The French were stacking bodies before you were a twinkle in your dad's sack lmao.

  • @hansvader4864

    @hansvader4864

    Ай бұрын

    Cue: Operation Serval.

  • @bababooey2893

    @bababooey2893

    Ай бұрын

    I'm gonna guess you haven't seen anything they've done since WW2? Even then their surrender was largely due to mismanagement, and arguably the war on the Western front couldn't have been secured without the help of French revolutionary groups.

  • @Blaidd7542

    @Blaidd7542

    Ай бұрын

    France have won more battles than any other country on earth, shortly followed by the UK only 10 battles behind. The 3rd country is the US who is hundreds behind both, 272 battles behind the UK and 282 battles behind France. France and the UK are in a complete league of their own compared to any other nation on earth when it comes to winning battles.

  • @turnermd1302

    @turnermd1302

    Ай бұрын

    @@Blaidd7542 Maybe hundreds of years ago, neither country could stand their own in a near-peer conflict in the modern era, the UK's own government has openly stated this

  • @tonyattardo9350
    @tonyattardo935025 күн бұрын

    Idk why but I’ve always loved the Famas. There’s something classy kind of art deco about it.

  • @jiffyjefferson
    @jiffyjefferson26 күн бұрын

    "1 bang means it's time to reload" is a pretty good indicator, too.

  • @jiankhan
    @jiankhan24 күн бұрын

    3 rounds burst at 1000 rpm. After a good polishing and tuning, it can be upped to 1200 rpm. It was thinked to do a multi-tapping up to 25m with one trigger pull and defeating body armor (from the era) in one "shot". Some of ours were tuned by the MAS technicians to achieve 1200 rpm, and we were able to put the 3 rounds on target at 50m while on bipods, and easily 2 at 25m while standing. Remember, we rarely used the burst (full and 3), but only consecutive singles. Burst was for CQB, and full for suppressing / destruction. And the magazine can hold 25 (26), but was in fact loaded with 24 due to a possible jam caused by the very high cycle rate (the first is fired, and while ejecting a second can pops up and jam the bolt open) and the high pressure of the mag spring. In five years, it happened only one time to me. But it can happen. Plus, we carried more mags than our US counterparts. Smaller, but more. :) And the rifle weight less, and the shorter size was perfect for prone and bipods position.

  • @BC-wj8fx
    @BC-wj8fx24 күн бұрын

    Also remember that on some 3 round burst weapons they reset if you let off the trigger mid-burst, and others do not reset but continue with the remainder of the burst. Plus it's the first shot that is most likely to hit, so even the last single shot is nearly as good as a burst.

  • @Inflorescensse
    @Inflorescensse26 күн бұрын

    Bad triggers are extremely hard to get reliable bursts with. But for example. Modern AR triggers are very easy to be consistent double or triple.

  • @user-jp7fe4nz2r
    @user-jp7fe4nz2r22 күн бұрын

    When your famas only shoots one round instead of 3, it lets the user know its time to reload

  • @Divadtube
    @Divadtube22 күн бұрын

    Loved the Fa-mas since Metal Gear Solid, great gun. Want one.

  • @josephjoseph4938
    @josephjoseph493819 күн бұрын

    Some soldiers don't load their mags to the brim so the spring tension is more reliable.

  • @theuniversaleclipse2305
    @theuniversaleclipse230522 күн бұрын

    Part of the reason why I also think it has a 3 round burst is because of that insane French crackhead fire rate. 1100 rpm is pretty insane for a main issue rifle. You need to be able to do accurate bursts of fire, which may be more difficult with the fire rate, so it'd make sense to have a burst fire mode.

  • @idzharinufbackwards6009
    @idzharinufbackwards6009Күн бұрын

    It's obviously because your reload speed is faster when there's already a bullet in the chamber 🙄 even without quick hands and the mag attachment 🥶🥶

  • @ArtOfRuin981
    @ArtOfRuin98128 күн бұрын

    That bullet setback on the 5.56 stripper is worth investigating 😮😮

  • @skyekross
    @skyekrossАй бұрын

    brain: just make curved pockets me: wait...

  • @the_beast183

    @the_beast183

    26 күн бұрын

    Curved boxes aren’t a thing

  • @skyekross

    @skyekross

    26 күн бұрын

    @@the_beast183 i googled and it showed me not so tightfit pouches with straps to keep the mag inplace. that works

  • @skyekross

    @skyekross

    25 күн бұрын

    ​@@the_beast183had to re-watch the video maybe I heard it wrong. He mentioned that why they didn't invent a curved mag was because of storage. My point still stands. Also I googled curved mag pouches and I got pouches that are compatible with curved mags.

  • @Ouroboros63
    @Ouroboros6325 күн бұрын

    I thought my headphones disconnected but your video just has it playing in my right ear for some reason

  • @garrysanderson5793
    @garrysanderson579327 күн бұрын

    It makes your finals burst distinctive also. *BOOM* *CLICK* *CLOCK* If youve fired one then you know how handy it actually would be. Not just for you but also comrades

  • @jimmyyy309
    @jimmyyy30926 күн бұрын

    i identify as a 25 round magazine

  • @Sosorasoul
    @Sosorasoul26 күн бұрын

    I remember hearing the real reason was that the three-round burst came much later into the conception of the FAMAS, so they kept the mag design as is.

  • @nashfeighny4757
    @nashfeighny4757Ай бұрын

    The M1918 BAR also has a 20 round straight magazine

  • @the_full_english

    @the_full_english

    29 күн бұрын

    How is that at all relevant 🤷‍♂️

  • @viniciusmagnoni6492
    @viniciusmagnoni649228 күн бұрын

    What about a 24 round magazine?

  • @TheRealCaptainFreedom
    @TheRealCaptainFreedom17 күн бұрын

    Three-round burst is for people who are somewhat less than expert marksmen. So for frontline grunts, it absolutely works.

  • @TimeMaster0
    @TimeMaster025 күн бұрын

    I’m not as familiar with the FAMAS as I am with AR platforms but there could also be the reason of after 8 bursts you could reload and avoid locking your bolt making your reloads just a bit faster.

  • @Evictiorama

    @Evictiorama

    25 күн бұрын

    I think that's just a coincidence because after your first reload you'll have 25+1

  • @jarebread
    @jarebread28 күн бұрын

    I heard another reason for this is to let the shooter know when their magazine is empty, since the final burst would only shoot 2 rounds.

  • @_Scipio__Africanus_

    @_Scipio__Africanus_

    28 күн бұрын

    Burst was an afterthought that wasnt around when the mag was designed

  • @dethkon
    @dethkonАй бұрын

    The burst helps the barrel climb from center-mass to headshot with just one click.

  • @notoriousshizzane2696
    @notoriousshizzane26965 күн бұрын

    Burt fire was made for conscripted soldiers. M16s were full auto day one. Wasn't till bill who got drafted from Arkansas and mag dumped 200 rounds in 3 minutes did they realize that maybe slowing fire rate is a good idea

  • @BrettPlaysWithGuns
    @BrettPlaysWithGuns26 күн бұрын

    Dude I'm a weapons expert for a living, I've replaced and worked on thousands and thousands of government issue mags. And I didn't know this! You're awesome, keep it up

  • @gr8990
    @gr899019 күн бұрын

    When you have 5 round stripper clips and a 3 round burst... It's a fantastic little rifle tho.

  • @FrankFernandez-wi4sq
    @FrankFernandez-wi4sq15 күн бұрын

    That shit was insane when BF3 first came out

  • @dereinzigwahreRichi
    @dereinzigwahreRichi22 күн бұрын

    Ah, is that why the G3 chambered in 7,62mm had a straight 20 round mag? They're also quite heavy and we usually only had 90 rounds in 3 mags issued in total.

  • @markwright760
    @markwright76025 күн бұрын

    I load all my mags with minus 1 round, that way the weapon accepts the mag much better, less pressure on the spring, and if I load one ready into the chamber then I'm right back to 30 rounds total. The first round in the mag seems like it's more likely to cause a malfunction due to the extra pressure, so I just go ahead and eliminate that altogether.

  • @cjhodgman3508
    @cjhodgman350826 күн бұрын

    It's also because you could see that the last burst was shorter than the others and know to reload

  • @donovankeeney3835
    @donovankeeney3835Ай бұрын

    also hearing and feeling "BLAM BLAM BLAM, BLAM BLAM BLAM, BLAM" would probably give you a hint when you're out

  • @bmouch1018
    @bmouch101824 күн бұрын

    Also because they decided on the burst feature *after* they settled on a 25 round mag.

  • @justjoshingya504
    @justjoshingya504Ай бұрын

    I have those mags in 20 ct, got them from my grandfather, his M1 garand from ww2 and korea as well, was used by on dday

  • @Czajnik_491
    @Czajnik_491Ай бұрын

    The most important thing about 25 rounds ist faft that in end you are left with single round that goes to chamber and you can reload faster

  • @pizzacake6581
    @pizzacake658126 күн бұрын

    I always assumed because it’s a burst fire weapon that you would know u need to reload when u didn’t hear three cracks when u shot

  • @josephmontanaro2350
    @josephmontanaro2350Ай бұрын

    The burst is ideal to control ammo use (thing has like 1200 RPM) and in a way when you get that final 2 round burst you know yohr empty, also if you top off before empty the 1 in rhe chamber gives you a divisor that works evenly

  • @helveticarms
    @helveticarms22 күн бұрын

    The last burst would only be a single shot, which would be a good way to get a shot off but also let you know you are out of ammo. Since the rifle doesn't have a last round bolt hold open feature. Not sure this was the original intent but it would be useful.

  • @5ifty_cow997
    @5ifty_cow99714 күн бұрын

    Thought it was bc the first run didnt have the burst feature but they (i think the army is 'they') wanted the burst feature so they added it but kept the smae 25rd mags. The theory is that the burst shoots the 3 bullets so fast that it would only feel like you pulled the trigger 1 time, leading to getting more bullets where you wanted them faster and more accurately

  • @jamessandifer3405
    @jamessandifer340525 күн бұрын

    Actually the slightly curved magazine ar15 is a 30 round. But the suggested max load is 29 rounds.

  • @rustyshackleford1697
    @rustyshackleford169728 күн бұрын

    Could be a misconception but an odd number of rounds would make it so the last "burst" fired would only be a single shot so it would be easier to tell your mag was empty.

  • @timo4463

    @timo4463

    28 күн бұрын

    but you dont shoot bursts thats just for traning

  • @mrstronk
    @mrstronk26 күн бұрын

    They honestly could've modernised the Famas and configured the magwell into having AR mags and it would literally still hold up with modern technology. Hell yk the Austrians did that with the Aug, russians did it with the AK and americans did it with the AR15 platform

  • @mattcomchoc2957
    @mattcomchoc295725 күн бұрын

    Mag round count likely doesn't matter, I believe the FAMAS has the same burst system as the M16 family, where there is a cam with 3 pawls/teeth. It maintains it's position such that the last time burst was used, if there was one tooth left, no matter how many rounds have been fired in between, when you pull the trigger on burst the next time, you will get a single round, then a 3 rd, throwing off your count. Basically unless you manually go through a procedure to dry fire and reset the burst cam every time, you really don't know what that first trigger pull is gonna be... 1,2,3rds could come out.

  • @smithyMcjoe
    @smithyMcjoe24 күн бұрын

    I always put it down to the French being unable to count...

  • @NYG5
    @NYG527 күн бұрын

    When you let out 8 bangbangbangs and then the next one just goes bang, you know you're empty

  • @novafire25
    @novafire2521 күн бұрын

    Wild seeing you anywhere but ifunny

  • @Gearhead221
    @Gearhead22126 күн бұрын

    This is my worst OCD nightmare

  • @FourByteBurger
    @FourByteBurgerАй бұрын

    Honestly despite the storage complications i think the FAMAS looks better with a curved mag

  • @jrobertoppenheimer1945
    @jrobertoppenheimer194526 күн бұрын

    okay but why was there a rachet on the first gun 😭😭

  • @mikaelwojciechowski7281
    @mikaelwojciechowski728118 күн бұрын

    I have always liked the Famas. The French sure make interesting firearms and the Famas has proven itself over the years. 👍

  • @Peregrinatio52
    @Peregrinatio52Ай бұрын

    It’s a strange complaint to bring up seeing as I have never met anyone who expended an entire magazine via three round burst

  • @blackhawk7r221

    @blackhawk7r221

    Ай бұрын

    It’s what we had during the miserable M-16A2 days. Long strings of 3 rd burst to lay down suppressive fire.

  • @uncleslayer7818
    @uncleslayer781826 күн бұрын

    When you fire and get a single shot it's time to reload , that's why

  • @_Scipio__Africanus_

    @_Scipio__Africanus_

    26 күн бұрын

    Nope. Its def a plus, but the official reason was storage.

  • @codylemme4154
    @codylemme4154Ай бұрын

    The famas is still my favorite gun. It just looks and sounds so nice to me.

  • @stevegrim9662
    @stevegrim966225 күн бұрын

    What a side profile, always thought the FAMAS was pretty.

  • @dtester
    @dtester28 күн бұрын

    They were probably "F**k it, what ever" but in French.

  • @LET4M4RU
    @LET4M4RU24 күн бұрын

    It's actually a lot less smarter than that. It's just that they initially didn't think about the 3 round burst early in production, and as such they went with a design for a standard capacity mag. Then they added the 3round burst but the design was already too far up the line to go backwards. They corrected it in the G2 version and the Valorisé version, where it has a curved magazine with the correct amount for proper 3round bursts

  • @12LoLproductions

    @12LoLproductions

    24 күн бұрын

    It’s called NATO standardization, they swapped to the STANAG

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