Why does a software program have a termination fee?!? That's actually insane lol.

@ravitejaknts

Жыл бұрын

Because people will buy it, use it for their need and then they will cancel the subscripion. Anyhow, the way they are doing it is insane.

@neontd

Жыл бұрын

@@ravitejaknts So, why is that their business? Adobe is getting their money.

@enzocaputodevos

Жыл бұрын

Procreate, Nomad

@ravitejaknts

Жыл бұрын

@@neontd I am talking about Refund amount. Cancelling subscription is fine. But if they have to refund the amount, they will cut a termination fee even though you just subscribed.

@KRYMauL

Жыл бұрын

Because there's nothing you can do about it. Monopolies can get away with stuff like that if there's no competition.

Seriously, Adobe's subscription plans are ridiculously expensive.

@spicychad55

Жыл бұрын

I heard they wanted $50 a month or whatever just to use a "special" black color in their own program!

@masterstacks2030

Жыл бұрын

Also, ridiculously hard to cancel

@jakeroper1096

Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite long term stock investments: ADBE

@ChristofHaemmerle

Жыл бұрын

it's a disaster... can't wait for them to go under ;) So sad Figma sold their soul ;(

@coolinmac

Жыл бұрын

@@spicychad55 nonsense

Years ago I paid about $500 for a license for Adobe’s web suite. I mainly just bought it for Photoshop. A couple of years later randomly one day my software stopped working and said it was an invalid license and that I needed to buy their subscription to continue using the product. After that happened I didn’t care about “doing it the right way” to support the company anymore so I just pirated software so I could continue using what I had already paid for.

@sirbigdaddyalpha

Жыл бұрын

Nice. Do u have the Pirated software for Mac os?

@davidphillips9366

Жыл бұрын

@@sirbigdaddyalpha Windows

@bhargavjitbhuyan9394

Жыл бұрын

@@sirbigdaddyalpha ya you can get it at many websites.

@FHL-Devils

Жыл бұрын

The nerve of many companies selling 'lifetime' licenses to drum up revenue - just to turn around and say "we didn't mean YOUR lifetime".....

@robocatssj3theofficial

Жыл бұрын

lol, you alr paid for it so technically it's not even pirating.

The termination fee part is absolutely disgusting on their part. I use adobe with a student discount that they require me to renew every year. My discount ran out and they started charging me the regular subscription without notification. When i went to renew the subscription after noticing that i was charged full price, i found out i couldnt simply renew it. I had to cancel my subscription to renew my student discount. Lo and behold, there was the termination fee, a whopping 160€. Yes, 160 god damn euros. I skipped the phone thing entirely and was lucky that their twitter support employee was really generous in canceling my subscription for free given i was gonna restart it instantly but with a student discount. I was lucky. But a termination fee for a subscription? What? Why?

@blondbraid7986

6 ай бұрын

Termination fees should be illegal. Seriously, it's ursury and extortion.

@corvacopia

6 ай бұрын

I called their customer support when that happened to me and they cancelled it too, but too many people would just eat the cost

@CubeInspector

6 ай бұрын

​@@blondbraid7986termination fees are not usury. Usury is interest on loans. The world functions on usury. Theyre never going to be illegal because it's a voluntary contract you chose to enter into, most contracts have termination penalties. The underlying issue is subscriptions in general we need to stop giving Adobe money

@incendiaire_

5 ай бұрын

theres a loophole where if you change your subscription plan you have a new 7 days trial where you can terminate your plan for free! thats what i did recently, i had a sub plan for photoshop and wanted to cancel it, so i subscribe to something else instead and instantly canceled it. I had my money back and no termination fee.

@Comrade_Akimov

4 ай бұрын

Well “it’s in the contract “

Remember kids, pirating adobe product is always morally correct 👍

@Biajuuu

Жыл бұрын

@Mukul Yadav same lol

@matheuspires2462

Жыл бұрын

I still doing it xd

@Biajuuu

Жыл бұрын

@@matheuspires2462 me too

@matheuspires2462

Жыл бұрын

@@Biajuuu cool

@1sannn

Жыл бұрын

If you want an older software you can't even authenticate it anymore. Hope they vet broken up into 20 separate companies because of their almost monopoly

The mindset of "Adobe is getting my creative things done" was the main barrier for me. But once I get out of my comfort zone and invest only 1 week, stopped taking projects for 2 weeks... I replaced - premiere pro with Davinchi Resolve (Free) - Illustrator with Affinity Designer 2 (One time fee) - Photoshop with Affinity Photo 2 (One time fee) - and switched to Figma (free) from Adobe XD long time ago. Yeah, it was hard to replace the Adobe suite but to break the monopoly, I better choose the best alternatives. Now, I am fully Interagated with the new workflow.

@sihamhamda47

Жыл бұрын

Just hoping they wouldn't follow the evil "subscription" way. They are now the very last hope for any creators who are looking for editing software with one time purchase and lifetime license

@rudolfkorcsmaros

Жыл бұрын

And here comes the fact, that Figma has been already acquired by Adobe...

@ADeeSHUPA

Жыл бұрын

@@sihamhamda47 あっぷ

@Slada1

Жыл бұрын

There is no non-adobe alternative to figma or adobe XD :(ˇ

@nizu9544

Жыл бұрын

GIMP KDENLIVE KIRITA

I saw Adobe's pattern of behavior way back before they shifted over to a subscription model and abandoned them. I've never regretted my decision.

I was a loyal Adobe customer for over 20-years. Now I use DaVinci Resolve...and Adobe can take a long walk off a short pier!!!

I think the fact that nearly every college graphic design/art class only teaches with Adobe products' UI and interface in mind is also a contributing factor in why most people can't easily quit Adobe. Trying to follow along with lessons with an alternative program just isn't very simple to do.

@doingtime20

Жыл бұрын

Though that follows that in the industry everybody uses Adobe, it's a self feeding loop.

@beanoptodon

Жыл бұрын

It's exactly why Maya is used instead of blender for 3D modeling software. Beyond the fact that companies are scared of not obsessively paying for things, it's also because either they get some kind of deal with them, or they know that 90% of the people coming out of college (who also got a severe discount) will get their company to buy and use Maya if they aren't already because that is all they know. Autodesk actually sucks about having stable software just as much as Adobe.

@randoguy7488

Жыл бұрын

@@beanoptodon There's also the issue with support. When you're paying for Maya or Photoshop you know who to call when an issue comes up. With open-source all you can do is submit a bug on the issue-tracker and hope that some dev in the future will pick up the issue and start working on it.

@pieterluyten3559

Жыл бұрын

@@randoguy7488 or you can pay a developer to fix it themselves, once and for all

@talkysassis

Жыл бұрын

@@pieterluyten3559 Yeah, if you can pay for pid software, why not pay them to that? You can even set the same price. If a bunch of people do that, you get 100% support.

I began hating Adobe all the way back in 1994 when they acquired my favorite graphic design software company at the time - Aldus Corporation. Most people don't even remember Aldus, but they pioneered a large portion of the graphic tech that Adobe based their future success on. They were the makers of Pagemaker (first desktop publishing program), Photostyler (a competitor to Photoshop), After Effects (still the same name with Adobe), Intellidraw (Vector drawing - features merged with Illustrator), Freehand (vector drawing purchased by Macromedia), and many other graphic and pre-press software products. My hate for Adobe grew each time they devoured another competitor. When they eventually released Creative Cloud it was the culmination of their efforts to monopolize the graphic design business. I use Affinity products, Davinci, and anything else I can in order not to use Adobe.

@LogicallyAnswered

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha nearly 30 years tenure for hating Adobe

@brianh9358

Жыл бұрын

@@LogicallyAnswered Yeah, a long time to hate.. lol.

@BlueSquatchproductions

Жыл бұрын

If more people were that principled companies would have to act differently

@khevblond17

Жыл бұрын

Yo, we have a Generational Hater here 🤣

@twotails

Жыл бұрын

Man's dislike is profound 😭

Adobe used to be considerably pro-independent creator. As soon as they went to subscription rather than allowing the option to own your software, the writing was on the wall -- they didn't care about independent creators, or the hobbyist. At this point as solo and freelance creators we're all looking for an alternative to Adobe, and pretty much everything else that started off as pro-creator and became anti-creator as soon as the money got too good.

5:54 there are cheaper of even free alternatives to Photoshop and Illustrator, and some that basically combine the two. For example, Krita can handle both raster and vector in the same file. It can also handle animations, although not as efficiently as programs that are specifically for animation (and yes there are alternative animation software too).

@zetwave

2 ай бұрын

Photopea is the best

You asked "why does Adobe have such a disparity between happy employees and angry customers?" To me it seems obvious. I worked at both a monopoly and a consultancy with competitors. The difference in stress level is so apparent. Being an employee of a monopoly is great - there's no competition and no pressure to improve your product and to provide great customer service. There is no disparity, it's a direct relationship: the customers are angry BECAUSE the employees are too comfortable not doing their jobs to a high standard.

@vikrantsingh6023

Жыл бұрын

I mean that seems to be true..but if they do the other way round people will be pissed again...I think a middle ground needs to be reached

@harryhack91

Жыл бұрын

It might be true, but remember that the developers are like the front-line soldiers, they are just following orders. If a developer is asked to implement an intentionally badly designed feature, they will do it. Going one step up (or more) in the hierarchy, if a software architect/engineer is asked to come up with some silly feature that is unlikely to provide any real value to customers but it would be easy to implement, they will just write the design for it. So... ultimately the upper management is the one really at fault here. Of course, there are probably some lazy developers out there, but then again, the people in the upper management should be the ones responsible to prevent that behaviour and to scold those lazy bastards when applicable.

@vikrantsingh6023

Жыл бұрын

@@harryhack91 yes I think you are right...but I think this primarily happenes since there is no competition..hence nobody has to even try, plus giving such good work culture will make potential recruits not consider the competition even if they existed....and I think this is their actual plan

@karlzhu99

Жыл бұрын

@@harryhack91 yes agreed management is responsible. I guess no one likes to be strict for no reason - why have tight deadlines and stress your engineers out when it has no effect on the bottom line? But that eventually breeds a "comfortable" culture that will hopefully get outcompeted.

@Sandstimes

Жыл бұрын

The issue isn't people getting "comfortable". You're right in that their monopoly is responsible for the shit costumer treatment, but not because their employees aren't suffering enough, it's because the higher ups know they can get away with jacking up the prices to their hearts content because they're running the industry standard. I think drawing a correlation between treating your employees with basic decency (which should be the standard) and treating your customers poorly is setting a bad precedent

Being more liked by employees than customers must be unique characteristic for company.

@henryfleischer404

Жыл бұрын

Wizards of the Coast?

@QTwoSix

Жыл бұрын

@@henryfleischer404 I disagree heavily, why would we dislike a company that makes the things we love?

@henryfleischer404

Жыл бұрын

@@QTwoSix Well, a bunch of people are mad about the OGL 1.1 controversy, and those psudo-magic card things they released recently. My dad, however, loves his job there.

@QTwoSix

Жыл бұрын

@@henryfleischer404 well does it really matter, it's just some mistakes, recent ones at that. These are the only ones I've heard of, and they're not that serious.

@kikixchannel

Жыл бұрын

@@QTwoSix What does liking a product have to do with liking a company? This is a pretty exaggerate example but...does liking marihuana (let's say, where it's legal) mean liking the maker of it (which may very well be a literal mafia)? That's absurd. Likewise there are many video games that on their own I like, but companies that make them are utter garbage. I like Plants VS Zombies for example, but I hate EA. I like Assassins Creed Black Flag but Ubisoft is a terrible company to me (as a consumer, even without the internal issues with them). Also the change to the OGL was absolutely MASSIVE with potential to ruin the entire landscape! How do you consider it 'not serious'!

There was a time when I wanted to learn to use photoshop. I ended up using GIMP instead because it was free. When I finally had my own money and could afford it, they had switched to this dumb subscription thing and I decided it wasn't worth learning. Although it could have been useful, I avoid subscription stuff. I hate all this subscription stuff nowadays. Unless you are required to have it for your job, it's not worth it. There are things I want to do that I can't do without photoshop, so I simply just give up on it or ask a friend who has photoshop to do it for me. It's less accessible to non-professionals. Plus, when I was younger (in the age of Myspace), it seemed half the people I new had photoshop. It was THE program to have if you liked editing photos or creating art. I don't know many people who use the program anymore. Even friends who used to gave up on it when it went to subscription. I think that's kind of sad.

@animatewithdermot

7 ай бұрын

My recommendation for people who just want to use it as originally intended is to get a late CS version (5.1 or 6), second hand (NOT downloaded from their cloud). Might be tricky to get, but they're out there.

@daveindezmenez

6 ай бұрын

A good program in between Photoshop and GIMP is Affinity Photo which you buy once rather than rent every month. Adobe embracing AI irresponsibly is a way of cannibalizing their users.

@samdavepollard

2 ай бұрын

photopea is worth checking out

Not invading privacy? They use spyware to find versions of their old software and delete or disable it, so they can force you to upgrade to their subscription model! That may not be as evil as what some companies do, but it's definitely one reason I started learning Affinity!

Illustrator has serious competitors. Coreldraw and open source inkscape. Doing fantastic work.

@tilsgee

Жыл бұрын

I want to use it. But the problem is, Inkscape don't have store versions like krita.

@tonymouannes

Жыл бұрын

The real strength of adobe are photoshop, premiere and light room. Premiere is the most complete editing software on the market, even it's highest end competitors have less features. Photoshop is a monopoly for so long, making it hard for a competitor to even try and compete. Never used lightroom myself, but everyone talks about how helpful it is.

@DIEGO.L

Жыл бұрын

Ironically, all the lastest versions of CorelDraw, from X7 forward, are much more stable than Illustrator, less resource consuming and less prone to crashing. It use to be the other way around. Plus CorelDraw has all of the InDesign capabilities within it.

@houssamalucad753

Жыл бұрын

But no one really competing with After Effects yet

@modcolocko

Жыл бұрын

@@tilsgee Why do you need a version from the windows store?

Using photoshop feels like you’re tricking it into doing what you want it to do

@azuurasmr7937

Жыл бұрын

Same with illustrator

@QTwoSix

Жыл бұрын

I just use Gimp

@melzyy

Жыл бұрын

@@QTwoSix chad

@greenberrygk

Жыл бұрын

That feels like most image editing software

@chaon93

Жыл бұрын

@@QTwoSix gimp is honestly awful these days. photopea, a free web based editor, blows it out of the water.

When Abobe announced their subscription model in 2012 I ordered the very last hard copy version, CS6, and have used that ever since. It's more than I needed for my business and most of the upgraded features were nothing more than gimmicks. The best investment I ever made was purchasing that upgrade. I'm now retired and very rarely use this software. The only downside is that I can't upgrade my system software past OX10.13.6 or use a new computer as they've made sure that there's built in obsolescence should you need to go this route. Luckily there's plenty of old Macs on the market should my current computers give up the ghost and I need to run my CS6 version. I'd been using Adobe products since 1989.

@hurdygurdyguy1

5 ай бұрын

I have an old HP desktop running WinXP 😆 and use PS CS3, it still performs very well! Caveat: I do have a newer HP with Win11 and CS4...if I do decide to upgrade PS I will only go as far as CS6, the cloud CC stuff is bull$ht, I stay away from all things "cloud"

Several years ago, I spent $25 on Clip Studio Paint. I stopped using Photoshop, because CSP felt objectively better in every possible way (related to drawing). And that $25 was a one time payment. CSP 2 is out, and I can upgrade to it for another $25 (when on sale). But I still have the first version forever.

@zolfirthedragon

Ай бұрын

I did the same!

Adobe is the worst example of a monopoly. Nice to see they treat their employees so well, but I still think their products are best to be pirated, or replaced with open source alternatives

@Lucrativecris

Жыл бұрын

I always get the pirated version too Damn expensive and there’s no lifetime price

@SuperTroll2003

6 ай бұрын

@@Lucrativecris there are alternatives, im currently saving up for a lifetime purchase of toonboom harmony (i'm an animator, know how to use adobe animate but eventually i dont want to support adobe products

@beerosaurusrex

6 ай бұрын

You're free to go use other tools. You don't though because Adobe are still the best options. Plus, imagine if there were hypothetically 3 equivalent versions of all Adobe programs, so for every design job you might possibly need to know 3 equivalents of Photoshop, 3 equivalents of Illustrator, etc. It'd be a nightmare.

@SuperTroll2003

6 ай бұрын

also always remember, pirating adobe products is always morally correct

@zadock6370

6 ай бұрын

yeah, I use open source video editing and image editing software so I don't have to pay anything.

I babysat for an Adobe employee at my church a couple times when I was a teenager. His kid spat on me. I think about that every time I think about Adobe software.

@LogicallyAnswered

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha, looks like you were scarred for life

@modolief

Жыл бұрын

Loooollll !!!

@mufeedco

Жыл бұрын

Now, I'll think the same...

@MinAwY377

Жыл бұрын

Kids take after their parents I guess

@Nightroast

4 ай бұрын

i wouldnt blame adobe in this situation

I think Adobe expected to monopolize the market, but with the subscription model and pricing, they pushed out all the novices, hobbyists and future designers who will turn to open-source software; see Gimp for a free Photoshop substitute or hell, even Paint 3D does basic layering and text just fine.

I learned video editing in high school on Sony Vegas 13 I think it was. Then in a 1 year college program they were teaching Premier, and my god was Premier way more obtuse to use. So many things in Vegas you could do just by holding specific hotkeys then clicking and dragging while in Premier there was much more having to enter a specific numeric value to make the same change.

@D0x1511af

Жыл бұрын

haha,,,,I'm long time vegas user ....now version 20.1 ....

@travisdaki

Жыл бұрын

Yep, Vegas actually lets you edit your footage whereas working with Premiere feels like being a programmer of some sort.

@So1

8 ай бұрын

Fellow vegas pro user. been editing for a long time

My favourite part with adobe is when I am forced to update photoshop to the next version and the only noticeable difference is that they switch the shift function with transform tool. Something that absolutely nobody asked for. I also love that they named their vector program "Illustrator", making it impossible for illustrators to find open jobs listings because 99% of the results are looking for someone who can use the software for graphic design. And not... and illustrator.

@sinemedev7840

Жыл бұрын

Similar nightmare for software developers using Visual Studio. Ask a Visual Studio question, get a Visual Studio CODE answer. Both are from Microsoft but vastly different software. Why, just why, Microsoft?

@Josuh

Жыл бұрын

just search for Adobe Illustrator?

@xwhitelight

11 ай бұрын

⁠@@JosuhHe means the illustrators want to find their actual "illustrator" job, not the program.

@xwhitelight

11 ай бұрын

@@JosuhPeople who want the job that requires Adobe Illustrator can easily add Adobe to clarify, but not the other way around.

@animatewithdermot

7 ай бұрын

@@xwhitelight They could rename 'Adobe Illustrator' to "Adobe OhGodThisProgramSucks'. That would work for me.

I absolutely love Affinity Publisher for my social media and physical promo design needs. It's much more useful and flexible, and it doesn't require constantly switching between Illustrator, Photoshop and inDesign to get a single thing done.

@KRYMauL

Жыл бұрын

Because they're all built in right?

@YargonK

Жыл бұрын

@@KRYMauL Yes, if you have AFDesign and AFPhoto as well, their entire tool-sets will be available inside AFPublisher. They also all use the same files, so there's just a button to switch your current project to a different software (you don't even need to have saved first, which is pretty nice for small every-day uses). Over-all, Affinity is absolutely phenominal software, at a very affordable, one-time price.

@KRYMauL

Жыл бұрын

@@YargonK That's great.

@KipVaughan

Жыл бұрын

I have used Designer and Photo extensively but haven't given Publisher much chance since it has been the newer less refined tool. With version 2 I am thinking about giving it another chance. I had Quark installed too but that is way to big of a pain in the butt.

@UnbekannterSoldat74

Жыл бұрын

@@KipVaughan wow, quark can certainly be considered an artefact from long bygone times.

I'm a digital illustrator, I switched to Clip Studio some weeks ago and it was the best decision ever. I was paying R$90/month to get Photoshop. Also CSP is better to create things like comics

@urlocalcrypt1d762

6 ай бұрын

Yes! You can also import 3D models into clip and manipulate them to get poses, not just use the ones it comes with. It has an animation bit included in the slightly more expensive version too

My uni taught using Adobe software and the moment I realised this I began looking for the free alternatives. I was already using Krita (art focussed alternative to Photoshop) and DaVinci Resolve (though I've since switched to the faster-for-my-system Kdenlive), but I also got Ocenaudio and Audacity to avoid whatever that audio software is. And Inkscape for vector art.

Well, it's hard to ignore the thought that much of their amazing company culture comes financed by their unethical milking of their customers, which in turn also helps them buy out the competition. Not sure I can really celebrate a company's internal culture when their external culture is hot garbage.

@flintfrommother3gaming

Жыл бұрын

@40two Nintendo exists you know, they've always make one of the best games year to year but they still are good at handling their workers.

@bluelotus.society

Жыл бұрын

@40two Yes there is.

@Goldfire345

Жыл бұрын

@@flintfrommother3gaming actually they've been starting to get allegations of unethical work practices too as of last year atleast with Nintendo of America so they're starting to lean that way too

@soheil4471

Жыл бұрын

@@flintfrommother3gaming yeah their games are really good but their customer support is pretty shit and they often milk their playerbase as much as they can

@Entropy67

Жыл бұрын

@@flintfrommother3gaming bruh Nintendo is absolutely hated by its community for destroying countless events and tournaments based on their games, failing to communicate, they are generally considered to be aggressively overprotective of their IP.

My biggest annoyance with adobe is that similar functionality is implemented differently in different apps. Especially when it comes to keyboard shortcuts and the ui/ux for layers.

@blokvader8283

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god, I absolutely hate the differences between softwares They're all made by the same company, yet so many things between Photoshop, Premiere, and Animate (the main three I use often) are WILDLY different it sucks so much.

@dekkeroid2962

Жыл бұрын

The shortcuts in Photoshop gave me cancer

@beanoptodon

Жыл бұрын

Same with Maya

@redotix9952

Жыл бұрын

@@blokvader8283 The reason this is the case is because they arent mad by the same companies. What Adobe does is they buy out any company that makes any decent piece of software and rebrands them under the Adobe name. Thats why every app is so different, because they are made by completely different companies originally.

@aoikishi99

Жыл бұрын

@@dekkeroid2962 alt ctrl and scroll just for zoom in out, the horror man. Rotate using R is probably the only default shortcut that have good functionality

In many ways, the true question is "why does Adobe hate creators so much"

@daveindezmenez

6 ай бұрын

They hate creators because of their pesky customer service calls but LOVE their money.

I encountered an over $400 cancellation fee for trying to switch Adobe plans. Absolutely insane. Never have I ever encountered that with any software in almost 20 years as a digital artist. Not using that software ever again. We’ll have to find alternatives now.

Recently I have been using the electric drill analogy to describe the absurdity of subscription model. Imagine you just need an electric drill for one hobby project, but you were forced to pay subscription to 'own' that drill for the month/year. That's not all, the supplier forces you to buy the entire toolkit bundle with tools that you don't even use. You were promised tool upgrades regularly but the upgrades weren't even good. Then when you want to return the drill/tool you're CHARGED for it (termination fee).

@MinAwY377

Жыл бұрын

Really good analogy tbh

for adobe products, i either pirate or lie and say i'm a teacher/student. their pricing is absolutely ridiculous

@ThatsJustEric

Жыл бұрын

How do you get the student discount

@TunaIRL

Жыл бұрын

The truth is, if you can't afford adobe, theres literally no reason for you to use it. Just use the free alternatives lmao

@kmydet

Жыл бұрын

if you think you can find a free alternative to substance painter, be my guest

@TunaIRL

Жыл бұрын

@@kmydet I guess you also do work for free then. Didn't think of that, that's when pirating would probably make sense.

@belzagar

Жыл бұрын

@@TunaIRL You can't just not use it. Substance painter is an industry standard and there's no other app nearly as fleshed out as it

1:36 they're not collecting peoples data or violating their privacy WELL THAT STATEMENT DIDN'T AGE WELL ADOBE

@ABitofEpicness

20 күн бұрын

Lmfao yea

I literally got a photoshop ad before this video 💀

There are proprietary alternatives from Affinity, who is filling the gap left by Adobe’s price increase. Then there are Open Source alternatives: GIMP or Krita (Photoshop), Scribus (InDesign), Inkscape (Illustrator). I have been using them professionally.

@mufeedco

Жыл бұрын

I switched to Linux a long time ago to force myself not to use Adobe products.

@history-jovian

Жыл бұрын

There are also many Web type alternative such pixlr or Photopea

@hugocastilla3102

Жыл бұрын

GIMP is soooooo underated

@ano_nym

Жыл бұрын

darktable (Lightroom)

@doingtime20

Жыл бұрын

I tried GIMP some years ago and it's just not the same.

"Looking for things like Lightroom, Illustrator, Photoshop [...] there are no alternatives." Darktable, Inkscape, Krita would all like to have a word.

@NighthawkNZ

Жыл бұрын

Lightroom... Darktable, Imerge Pro, Rawtherapee Illustrator... Inkscape, Affinity Design, CorelDRAW Photoshop... GiMP, CorelPAINT, Affinity Photo, Krita, Priemere Pro... FXHome HitFilm, DaVinci Resolve, Olive, OpenShot, Avid Media Composer, Vegas Pro, Corel Video Studio. InDesign... Scribus, Affinity Publisher CorelDRAW, MS Publisher, Quark Xpress... Acrobat Reader... Foxit Reader I could go on...

@_S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N_

6 ай бұрын

There's also the Affinity suite which isnt free but are a one time purchase. They're probably the closest parallels.

@daveindezmenez

6 ай бұрын

Not to mention Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer. The alternatives have been improving so much that it is making less and less sense to stick with Adobe. The only thing that makes the slightest sense is if you have to collaborate with someone else who uses Adobe but that is pretty much it.

@nicnavarrohere

4 ай бұрын

I used GIMP before I used Photoshop. Pretty good alternative.

@daveindezmenez

4 ай бұрын

@@nicnavarrohere I just saw a video saying that the next version of GIMP was going to have non-destructive editing which is a great step forward.

Illustrator and photoshop have a fair amount of competition nowadays, honestly there are tons of alternatives!

Bro I got a Photoshop ad on this video THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER GOTTEN A PHOTOSHOP AD TOO 💀

Pick 2: - Great to customers - Great to employees - Making profits

@shadowthief6471

Жыл бұрын

Sums up companies perfectly

@KyrieFortune

Жыл бұрын

And most companies will double down on profits and ignoring everything else

@amberhernandez

Жыл бұрын

Give it the MTG clause: "(you may pick the same option twice)"

@lazayvion

6 ай бұрын

BUT option 1 and Option 3 cannot be chosen together!

@Anonymous-jo2no

6 ай бұрын

@@lazayvionHave you ever been to Japan? The service here is always top notch and all, and obviously they are making profits with Japan being ultra capitalist and all... ...the thing is in lots of cases they work their employees to the bone to achieve that. It's fortunately getting better in recent years with labor laws and blogs scaring lots of companies from being labeled as "black companies", but looking at my friends here who have entered the workforce yea they are still worked to the bone... and soon I will join them.

The biggest issue is just that the creative industry is all in on Adobe. There's just nothing else that can offer such a complete package for everything and have it all work together under 1 subscription plan. Additionally, there's a lot of plugins for design/print/video etc that are only Adobe compatible. Probably doesn't help that schools only teach Adobe either as it's industry standard. It's a catch 22 really.

@MangaGamified

Жыл бұрын

Probably mostly in EU and USA with strong anti-piracy laws. Also what most schools taught is the basics and very short too, and suddenly ask like a poster project, which obviously means you have to do your due diligence. If they're really the only ones they could easily price $20k if there's no really other else, given that the entertainment industry is making billions. But cheaper alternatives keeps them in check

@endre4342

Жыл бұрын

@@MangaGamified strong anti-piracy laws? my school only uses pirated programs since It was born lol

@MangaGamified

Жыл бұрын

@@endre4342 I think my school too and I'm from the PH, never crossed my mind to check it back tho. No one's too guilty pirating adobe autodesk cause they're just a holdings company buying out every feature / competition, and requiring you to pay 4 digits for a suite of programs no one uses. Unless it's engineering, chemistry, biology or law. Art, economics, technology, etc evolves a bit too quickly. I mean most of my know how of art is from free and pirated guides.

@Caellyan

6 ай бұрын

@@endre4342Where u at?

@endre4342

6 ай бұрын

@@Caellyan everywhere

This video aged like milk.

Honestly, there is a huge creative software opportunity for a halfway motivated developer out there. The fact that there is Olive Video Editor, Affinity, Krita, GIMP, and Inkscape makes me think the time is ripe for a suite of apps to happen in a low-cost or even open source ecosystem. Some brilliant soul or souls need to integrate GIMP, Krita, and Inkscape into one piece of smooth running software in order to kill Photoshop (which is absolutely love, but cannot afford). Tough job, but it would be a game changer. Blender is such an amazing piece of stable software - it is the proof of concept for this notion of an open source or low cost solution for independent creatives.

@gravity7208

Жыл бұрын

Well there is but there is just no demand

@ed61730

6 ай бұрын

With the new ai features in photoshop no program will ever brat it now.

Need anti-trust laws to actually apply to these tech companies.

@General_Belu

Жыл бұрын

We can’t, companies will lobby the government against this.

@General_Belu

Жыл бұрын

@RizqanArt Yup…

@MimOzanTamamogullar

Жыл бұрын

@RizqanArt AI art is a totally different thing. It's a whole new technology and the implimentation of a new technology should always be encouraged. People who worked with horses probably didn't like the car, artists probably didn't like the camera, people whose job it was to write probably didn't like the printing press and the people whose job it was to handle lights probably didn't like the light bulb. However, your life is significantly better due to these inventions. In the past, you needed money or skill to get art you can use. Today, you can do it for free without skill. That will enable so much creativity once the technology develops further. Institutions are inherently conservative and will fight any progress as new means of production tends to make their leaders lose their jobs. The way to counter-balance things could be to create a social safety net and make progress a cultural norm.

@anversailles

Жыл бұрын

@@MimOzanTamamogullar AI art is only as good as it is because it has excellent training data it has obtained through unethical means. LAION-5B even has personal medical records it obtained without consent. I can see AI being very useful for animation studios who can use their own data to train models, but for the publicly available ones, it is terrible to encourage use as long as these ethical problems with training data exist. Plus AI art is limited by the data it is trained on, it is in no way shape or form better than someone who actually knows how to tell a story. It enables people without skill to “make” art but it ultimately dumbs down creativity if not properly guided.

@MimOzanTamamogullar

Жыл бұрын

@@anversailles I don't get why you think training AI is unethical. Thanks to them, anyone will be able to generate drawings, even if they don't have the money or the talent. That's a good thing.

Affinity suite is a perfect alternative to Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign. You make a one time small payment for the whole suite. I switched a few months ago and I'm pretty happy with it. Affinity doesn't have the AI stuff but you can do almost everything else.

@That0neJawn

Жыл бұрын

This and more! Publisher allows seamless switching between all 3 apps, for example

@ansonchan7323

Жыл бұрын

Love Affinity. Only problem I have is needing to pay again for v2

@That0neJawn

Жыл бұрын

@@ansonchan7323 I get it, it's kind of like the old adobe model. Free Updates, paid upgrades. But at least you get to keep the old versions of you don't want to upgrade.

@deddrz2549

Жыл бұрын

Does it have all of the drawing features? Or is it just for image editing

@ariela_

Жыл бұрын

Is it beginner friendly as well? I was told by someone if I wanted to get into graphic design etc Adobe cc was a must so I got it. And it’s very hard to navigate

Getting an Adobe ad at the start of the video was priceless

It's been a year. Who's here after Adobe's new TOS announcement? Forget creators, now everyone on the planet hates Adobe!

I think the one thing that could really compete with Adobe is another megacorporation like Microsoft or Google making their own suite of creative tools. Even though right now there's viable competitors to Adobe products, each product is made by separate companies and don't integrate with each other.

@LogicallyAnswered

Жыл бұрын

Maybe. It should be noted though that while Google Office is great, it’s still not as good as Microsoft Office. So, it’s debatable whether their offerings would be better than Adobe. But more options is always good.

@BlueSquatchproductions

Жыл бұрын

@Logically Answered it may not be as nice but it is adequate which is all most of us need.

@efivip93

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, that would only give the power to another corp, and they might be even worse, since all corps care about is the green paper. I would rather like if the open source comunity would push these bastards out of business, it would be the greatest day of my life. And since it's open source (assuming the right licence ofc), there is no acqusition, no way for monopolise and rip off the little guys.

@FrostDirt

Жыл бұрын

@@BlueSquatchproductions formatting is horrible on Google Office though.

@yuvrajsingh099

Жыл бұрын

Maybe Samsung can try. I don't know.

The only thing I dislike about adobe is their products are somewhat complicated and hard to use at first glance. They can indeed make their products much easier to use and also make one time licencing fees available again

@LogicallyAnswered

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think they’re gonna back track on the subscriptions haha

@AceFaceRecords

Жыл бұрын

@@LogicallyAnswered Neither do I but hey you never know :)

@sir_arsen

Жыл бұрын

adobe products target audience are professionals you can't simplify tool that is used for such a long time by a large community of creators. If you will change even one small thing everyone will scream about it, because of muscle memory. They always try to save our time by implementing new features, but if you want something really simple there is canva

@MaticTheProto

Жыл бұрын

Also cost

@AceFaceRecords

Жыл бұрын

@@sir_arsen Lol. Someone took it reaaally personal haha Chill out son. You do not own the company. Nor are you a spokes person for them. Relax :)

I was a huge Illustrator fan for many years. Then i learned Fusion360 and i realized how much cool features the program does not have (that Fusion has). I was absolutely shocked since Illustator is a decade or so older. Those functions like constraints, variables and the mirroring tool would be so useful. But as i understand, the issue is that illustrator does not work with actual formulars. A circle in Illustrator is not actually perfectly round

In the last several years GIMP and Inkscape has become very comparable to Photoshop and illustrator respectively

@daveindezmenez

6 ай бұрын

Inkscape is a good replacement for many of the functions of Illustrator, GIMP not so much for Photoshop because of graphics acceleration lacking. I'm finding that Affinity Photo is working well for a Photoshop replacement and Affinity Designer is replacing Illustrator for my needs quite nicely. Both cost about $50 each but you pay it once and aren't stuck on a subscription treadmill.

@dibus5055

6 ай бұрын

krita has worked fine for me as a stand in for photoshop

@mitch_tmv

5 ай бұрын

Honestly I've found GIMP pretty unstable in my experience. Fortunately I'm able to meet my needs with Canva, though it certainly comes with its limitations

I think my biggest gripe with Adobe would be not only the sheer price but the fact they abuse copyright so other software developed can quite literally not compete with them because adobe has the full rights to particular functions in their programs. You don't notice these until you switch from photoshop to any other software that may be cheaper, or even free. One big example would be one of their image stretch tools which you cannot find in other programs because they have the rights to it and an individual copyright over the function.

@beanoptodon

Жыл бұрын

I wish there could be some sort of law to prevent monopolistic actions like using copyright to kill competition...... Wait no adobe is just so rich they're exempt.

@siliconhawk9293

Жыл бұрын

@@beanoptodon copyright laws are ridiculous, the only thing i have seen them achieve is allow big companies to bully small creators or less powerful companies. i have seem more abuse of copyright laws than i have seen it being used for good.

@MangaGamified

Жыл бұрын

I'm not in the art or advertising business but even I instantly think just hire someone from Asia to use a P'ed Photoshop lmao. Or do the project at home in your personal laptop. Also, copyright is useless outside the country where the copyright office was held. What they gonna do if the developer is in Russia?

@animatewithdermot

7 ай бұрын

Several years ago I saw an interview with two programmers who were the first to develop a PS style toolbar interface for Digital ink and paint (the basis of all future apps like these). It never occurred to them that they should patent it, so they didn't. Interview asked them if they had any regrets, as they'd both be obscenely rich. They said no, it was better for the world for that interface to be free instead of owned by a single company. Like Disney, a company which was built on the back of public domain properties and which then goes on to freeze the copyright laws in their favour, Adobe does likewise it seems. Not the only tech company of course to do this, they're all more than happy to built on open source / free / volunteer labour, then squat on the gold pile ASAP.

@tobycat7

6 ай бұрын

@@ithecastic patent law is still vile and restrictive (imo)

1. The monthly cost 2. The bloated software 3. The random glitches caused by that bloated software that may take months to get fixed, if ever. That last one is specifically why I quit using Photoshop and moved to Affinity Photo. My canvas screwed up and kept creating a ghost effect which made it impossible to use. I even tried moving to an older release and that didn't help. Same kind of issue happens with Wacom. That's why I'm glad XP-Pen and Huion exist now.

@LocketInThinePocket

Жыл бұрын

Moving from Wacom to XP-Pen was the best thing I've ever done. I nearly got a super expensive display tablet from Wacom, but ended up just getting the ~$200 XP-Pen display. Works amazingly.

@GrungeVoid

Жыл бұрын

@@LocketInThinePocket Huion is great too. No more wacom.

@peregrination3643

Жыл бұрын

The more I researched tablets and how Wacom was as much of a cult leader as Apple and Adobe, and I'm stingey with money, so I excluded it from my final decision. Last Christmas/birthday money went to Affinity and XP Pen. And I've been enjoying learning graphic design SO much more since.

Just want to note that there are actually alternatives for Photoshop, Illustrator, and inDesign (Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer, and Affinity Publisher respectively). They're all nearly identical feature-wise, are faster to run, and one time purchases rather than subscriptions.

I remember learning how Illustrator has a memory leak regarding autosave. So their solution is to silently disable autosave on large files. That was their solution after 5+ years of the memory leak being known.

@_S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N_

6 ай бұрын

Despite being one of the main Adobe programs, it really feels like they forget about Illustrator sometimes. There are dozens of problems that go back years and they're just never addressed. There's also fewer new features compared to the others. It's infuriating.

the subscription model broke it for me. I used to teach photoshop and insisted the curriculum be changed to Affinity

Affinity is making a very competitive alternative, Affinity Photo.

@brianh9358

Жыл бұрын

I think if Affinity comes out with a good video editor/compositor that works directly with their Photo and Designer they are going to become even more competitive. Not sure they will go that route though.

@bloqk16

Жыл бұрын

Affinity FineReader is an easy and robust PDF app, easier to use than Adobe, with templates that makes configuring multipage PDFs easy to prepare . . . and you don't have to pay that subscription fee!

@evancombs5159

Жыл бұрын

@@brianh9358 eventually they might, but yeah I don't see it in the cards anytime soon. Video editing software would be a huge investment that I'm guessing they are not big enough to afford. They seem to be taking the slow and steady approach.

@toolsman4820

Жыл бұрын

@@brianh9358 Davinci Resolve should be a good competitor to After Effects and Premiere Pro. BMD has experience in video editing and vfx.

@ThatsJustEric

Жыл бұрын

@@toolsman4820 yes resolve is a great alternative

2 pain points which I have are as follows. Subscription only - when Adobe and Microsoft introduced their subscription services, they also had the option to fully buy the software and upgrades. I have heard from software developers that this is not that complicated to do since the subscription versions just have some extra code for the subscriptions but the main applications were the same. Users who prefer to own the software had that option. But not anymore. Buggy software - I returned to a job which requires use of Adobe apps. In addition to using the fully purchased versions in the past with the company, I personally own the last non-subscription version of Adobe Creative Suite. The subscription Creative Cloud is buggier than the older Creative Suite.

KZread : Why Creators Hate Adobe Me (who always pirated everything and has literally almost everything pirated on my hard drive) : 🤨🤔

Regarding adobe not being evil, adobe users should review their privacy settings. You are most likely consenting to your work being used to build their AI. Also, the subscription model is not too bad for casual users. I sometimes need to use Adobe products, maybe once every 6 months. I can sign up to the subscription which has a 14 day trial... Then do what I need to within the 14 days and cancel. Once I forgot to cancel and it charged before I realized...oops.

@bluelotus.society

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't even let us cancel! We had to reach out to support. This is a seriously shady company.

@LocketInThinePocket

Жыл бұрын

If you're just gonna do trials all the time, why not pirate it?

@beanoptodon

Жыл бұрын

This is why I actually blatantly went against my teacher's wishes and used Clip Studio instead of Photoshop during my drawing class recently. She couldn't tell the difference, it didn't matter. Now that Clip is following the footsteps of adobe with their subs I'm pretty sure they probably are also doing the same. Eughh I'm gonna fill it with inappropriate drawings if that's the case.

@_S_P_A_C_E_M_A_N_

6 ай бұрын

Regarding the first point, they don't use your work to train generative AI. They use machine learning to analyse usage patterns which they use in the development of features, such as Adobe Sensei etc. People sort of lost the plot on this one without reading the policy itself.

I switched to Affinity Photo recently, and Davinci Resolve a couple years ago, and both have been so much faster with less crashing than Adobe. The only thing I still need Photoshop and Premiere for is compatibility for some of the more complicated files people send me, or gif exports from Premiere. Other than that, I never open them, and I just have pirated versions now that my student license has run out.

@delusional-ibra

Жыл бұрын

pirating adobe is a right thing to do

@iqueque

Жыл бұрын

Like stealing is the right thing to do, I guess

@ariela_

Жыл бұрын

How do you pirate? I want to cancel but I don’t want to lose all my stuff that I created in illustrator/indesign and premiere pro.

I edit photos mostly to create LUTs to use with ReShade and I use GIMP with G'MIC QT and works wonders. I understand that its not a replacement for the professional sphere but for more hobbyist users that setup is definitly worth a try. Edit: I also sometimes use Darkroom but I'm not as good with that software yet as I'm with GIMP.

Affinity Suite is a drop-in replacement for Photoshop, Illustrator and Lightroom. In the sense theyre professional level and feature complete rastor and vector editors with comparable features. Add on resolve for video, and maybe supporting software's for whatever other adobe features you're missing. Depending what you're doing its definitely possible

Autodesk is another very similar company - within the animation industry specifically they make Maya, which is the industry standard animation software. However, they’ve switched to an expensive subscription model and the quality of the software has declined over the years, they’re only still in business because everybody is so used to using them already

@amandaslough125

Жыл бұрын

Luckily a lot of professionals in the industry are starting to being okay with using Blender and other alternatives there too.

@chaon93

Жыл бұрын

@@amandaslough125 This is in large part due to how far blender has come, 10 years ago blender was honestly awful compared to the competition, 5 years ago the gap was getting smaller, but it still wasn't a real alternative. Blender of today is a reliable workhorse and has a few advantages over maya in some use cases.

@arpanbiswasx

Жыл бұрын

Atleast their student version is free

@foxtail7363

Жыл бұрын

​@@arpanbiswasx that's how they lock people in I guess

@awesomeDAN2011

Жыл бұрын

They also have a monopoly over the Architecture, engineering and construction industry worldwide

I used a lifetime license to CS5. Suddenly the authentication for that software went offline. Right about when the subscriptions came out. I found... a way to keep using the software I own.

yeah right. after 5 years working back in NZ i asked for a week off in the middle of the year, winter, and was flat out denied.

A couple of years ago I ran into this exact conundrum and did make the switch to Affinity software, and for other needs I turned to things like Hitfilm, blender, inkscape, etc. I was happy with that. But then last year I had to get Adobe License because of a client who needed to receive editable files and they don't use Affinity. It's hard to completely break apart 100% from Adobe, because everybody is using it one way or another. I do wish we all aging conscience about this and make the industry turn and be more balanced.

I use Krita, Blender, lunacy/inkscape. If I had the money I would purchase the Affinity software "Photo" and "Designer".

Theres a typo in the description It says "had" instead of "hate" In the hate with passion part

@LogicallyAnswered

Жыл бұрын

Oops

@Terandium

Жыл бұрын

@@LogicallyAnswered the legend hearts and comments❤️

I stopped using adobe many years ago. I only used it when I had to for collage, but the only software I ever used from adobe was photoshop 7.0. until 2015. Afterwards, I switched to clip studio and never looked back. I thought about getting adobe again once, but overall, the negative feedback from everyday users and business employee's alike has permanently kept me away.

I was annoyed by Adobe "Australia Tax" for which even for accounting for exchange rate charges and administration, loaded an extra 30%. All I do is use pdf management software and there are plenty of alternatives. The problem with companies like Adobe is that they set the benchmark for what is acceptable.

6:00 Affinity doing very good job developing excellent alternatives for those

PhotoPea has been my choice for a few years now. I was so used to PhotoShop's dashboard, but just couldn't keep using new versions unless I paid a shit ton of money on new devices. But PhotoPea was a lifesaver. Never using any Adobe software ever again, and I am even going to shift away from Figma, now that Adobe has acquired it.

I am a casual photo editor, but all my tasks get accomplished in Gimp itself 🙃

and i got an adobe ad in the middle if the video 😭😭

The worst thing adobe has done is getting rid of Flash

@KhooTengKwang

Жыл бұрын

They haven't really removed it. It's just renamed as Adobe Animate.

@deddrz2549

Жыл бұрын

​@@KhooTengKwang i think he means the flash player. Though tbh as soon as i saw the new animate logo wasnt red anymore i was dissappointed

@DUXLOL

Жыл бұрын

@@KhooTengKwang I was talking about the Flash Player

@KhooTengKwang

Жыл бұрын

@@DUXLOL Ah, got it.

photoshop is so expensive I can't believe they thought it was a good idea of charging users $1000+ per year to use it.

@LogicallyAnswered

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha for real

@nirvaya

Жыл бұрын

Use PhotoPea instead.

@jinx5850

Жыл бұрын

pirat- just kidding dont, unless youre crazy

@ruler_of_everything

Жыл бұрын

@@jinx5850 it's me i'm crazy

@TunaIRL

Жыл бұрын

Because the people actually using this software for what it's meant for are making thousands per month from using it. That's what it's for. If you're doing shit for free, just use something else.

Corel corporation is probably the closest to having alternatives to most things Adobe under one roof. They also still offer once off purchases (with upgrade pricing) alongside their subscriptions. Unfortunately, the quality seems inconsistent outside their main suites and interoperability isn't fantastic either. At least they are holding on to their production niche, but they need to grow back beyond that to claim back their relevance in the broader creative industry.

I'm a digital artist and I needed softwares for digital drawing and maybe 3d modeling and video editing. My boss (this was before I went independent) forced me to use Adobe software only. Initially she wanted me to use Illustrator, but that was a heap of garbage that didn't have the functions I needed. I was then put on Photoshop and it was very intuitive, even with the fact that its functions were similar to my preferred software (krita, which is completely free) it felt clunky, awkward and confusing to use. Input lag was a constant and sometimes it would not let me save or just straight up crash. I only had those issues with my preferred software when I was working on my personal old and cheap laptop. Once I switched to my current one (an HP pavilion with touch screen), those problems were gone. Only recently did I have the issues because of how big I make the files and how much stuff was stored on there. But once I put a bunch of stuff on an external hard drive, that was fixed. At my old job, we had high end expensive PC's and gaming laptops with all sorts of high quality stuff. Photoshop ran just as badly on those as my preferred software did on my old crappy laptop. For a little while they also wanted me to learn animation. So they gave me adobe animate and told me to make my art move. I could never do more than make simple bounce, sway or walk animations and the software crashed 50% of the time. One time I tried to make an animated Christmas card and apparently added too many snowflakes, because it crashed, refused to boot up the file and even corrupted the file so it became literal dead weight. Wouldn't even start up older versions of the file. For obvious reasons I skipped out on trying video editing software from adobe and asked if I could pretty please just go back to drawing cute art or painting our 3D printed products. I was fortunately given permission for that. If I had to work with the video editing software or even more animation stuff, I would've quit a year sooner. Now I work as an independent artist and streamer, where I do two krita art streams and two Minecraft streams per week. And I am able to create what I want, when I want in software I actually like. Krita may be pixel based, but it's free and I can get loads of custom brushes for cheap or even free. Companies, please just let your artists work with their preferred software. You're idiots by forcing the dude that makes digital fashion sketches to use Photoshop when they're much better at working with free art software that's also pixel based. You're paying for stuff unnecessarily, you're stifling the creativity of your artist and you're getting lower quality work overall. We know you're not properly paying them for their work, the least you can do is let them work with the software they can get the best results from. And artists: know your worth. Know that you can produce the best quality when you work with the software you understand best and feel most comfortable with. "but adobe is the industry standard" is a shit excuse and you don't have to take it. Adobe is not the BEST software provider, its the one that tries to monopolize. There's still plenty of good art softwares around. 3D modeling? Blender is a clear favorite, but there's also less technical ones that might suit your needs better. Same with video editing. Pixel based art softwares like krita or even Microsoft Paint (which apparently has layers now) are free and good quality. There's also clip studio paint if you want to have the options for vector and pixel art in one software, though the free version lacks basic features like saving your artwork. The same company also had a studio software where you can import 3D models and rig them to use for reference pictures, though it feels clunky to me. If you work on tablets, there's also softwares like ibis paint x (which I used a lot in my early career and it's pretty beginner friendly) and flipbook apps. There's obviously a lot more than just those softwares, but these are the ones I'm familiar with. And adobe being the industry standard isn't even accurate. For independent artists, the industry standard seemed to be stuff like clip studio paint for a while. And a lot of KZreadrs have shown great disdain for adobe animation or video editing software, going instead for different brands. I recently heard that Markiplier (who's pretty big in especially the FNAF community) apparently uses DaVinci resolve for his videos (or his editors do). For screen recording or streaming, obs is literally the industry standard and its completely free. And if they released a video editing software that you have to pay for, I'd put down the money for it in a heartbeat. Adobe is only the "industry standard" because they're the biggest and hella shady. Not because they're the best. If a better quality software comes around that does the same functions as an adobe software, the independent people would absolutely switch to that with companies following soon after. The reason not more companies switch to blender for video editing is because people know it as a 3D modeling software and its way less known than adobe software in general. If you're a 2D artist, you likely don't know about blender or krita. But you do know Photoshop and illustrate because those are the big names for what you need. It's like Vocaloid. Miku isn't the industry standard. She's the most well known. There's plenty of others in that industry and some are better suited for the job than Miku. TLDR: Adobe is biggest, but shitty quality. Various industries have non-adobe software as industry standard (that adobe does have software for). Let your artists work with their preferred software. Look online for non-adobe software for what you need and what the reviews for it are. Chances are you have better quality.

@daveindezmenez

6 ай бұрын

To me "industry standard" is just another word for laziness.

One time I spent nearly an hour trying to figure out how to flatten a pdf file with Acrobat while another program called PDF-Xchange simply has a fat "Flatten PDF" button on the ribbon. 90% of the people at my company flatten PDFs by "print as PDF" and it's sad af.

Omg yes I hate the 2 device limit, it's so stupid that there's even a limit when they milk so much from consumers...

@dee23gaming

Жыл бұрын

Yet you keep falling for it, smh.

@kimxgamer

Жыл бұрын

I don't buy their products, I got it from my school

I actually loved Adobe Audition that I used for years while a part of a radio and after that. It is an amazing software. Later I learned Photoshop, Premiere, AfterEffects, Acrobat etc. I forced myself out of the habit and switched to another, more fair programs. We feed the dog that bites us. This has to stop. I refuse to be the problem just because of lazyness.

im at university rn and we have anual adobe subscriptions, and i use it just because of that. Plenty of profesionals come make a speech to us about their work and plenty of times they say they are shifting out of adobe because is just not creative, not spontaneous and way too complex. i think there are options, i mostly do my work in vectornator (because i work on my iPad) and procreate

As someone who uses Adobe Premiere Rush, the only problems I’ve really run into are that it glitches every now and then, but even then most of the glitches that I run into aren’t too bad

@nubnubbud

Жыл бұрын

that's because those are rather new. VFX artists with adobe are locked into using After Effects, which is 30 years old, doesn't have multithreading, or use GPU's, and then they're told it's professional software, before adobe removed MP4 output because they wanted people to use an intermediate format and buy premiere to edit it, and now companies are forced to always use this year's version, which because of the age, is increasingly buggy and slow.

@laurapalmerTDGE

Жыл бұрын

Use a virtual credit card. Bang! They can't charge you any 💰. Use this with any free trial... .

Apple and adobe go hand and hand with the price gouging.

@coolinmac

Жыл бұрын

Give over you’re talking shit

@editsbymarcin

Жыл бұрын

I feel like Adobe is much worse than Apple.

@BlueSquatchproductions

Жыл бұрын

Which is why I don't use either which sucks because everyone wants you to use it to work with or for anyone else

@kevintyj

Жыл бұрын

LMAO u have no idea what your talking about

@evancombs5159

Жыл бұрын

@@editsbymarcin they are, but only just barely.

Affinity Designer thankfully has been my alternative to Illustrator. And It's amazing!

If you didn't get an ad for Premiere Pro in front of this video, what's wrong with your KZread?

I completely ditched Adobe as soon as Photoshop was no longer lincensable. I refuse to pay a huge annual or monthly fee for something like this. Both of the art programs I use I paid for once and never have to worry about it again.

@Lucrativecris

Жыл бұрын

Get the pirated versions

@ed61730

6 ай бұрын

Are you a professional or only doing this as a hobby?

6:00 Lightroom: darktable or rawtherapee Illustrator: Inkscape Animate: Synfig (maybe) Photoshop: Krita or GIMP [EDIT] { After Effects: Natron (Effekseer if needing more advanced VFX) Substance Painter: Armor-paint Figma/XD: Penpot or Plasmic } Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!

@shiro3146

Жыл бұрын

and for non open source software with one time prefectual lieneces : Illustrator : Affinity Design Phooshop : Affinity Photo After Effects, Audition, Premiere Pro : Davinci Resolve Studio(free version no GPU Export supports and 1 or 2 Effects has Watermarks for video)

@bcbdjane

4 ай бұрын

you can just use an older version of adobe animate such as macromedia flash 8 for example

I want to made an alternative to adobe cc but I dont know if the people are going to use it...

The termination fee has been around for many years. It’s definitely not new. I think it’s been 6 or 7 years ago they pulled this with me. I had to cancel my debit card to keep them from continuing to charge me or taking this crazy huge termination fee. It’s great they treat employees so well, and I applaud them for that. But why don’t they treat customers with the same respect?

I am surprised you didn't mention Affinity.

i definitely understand the pricing for someone using it for business purposes like its something your profiting so much off of using that its price doesnt phase you but, for anyone that wants to try it or get used to using it, its such an expensive comodity and makes it difficult for people who just want to try a few things

Anyone have recommendations for an illustration alternative for game sprites? I'm in school for mobile programming but I just do simple games as a hobby so it doesn't have to be anything juiced up.

There is one service I can think of, Amazon Prime. In india, they increased price, and for the price, they decreased the services. Sure, Prime video and Prime music are there, but the basic 2 day delivery option was pulled back, and some deliveries are still chargeable. My financial services and daily life are so tied with Amazon that there is not enough incentive for me to move out of it.

You know, I was listening to this in the background thinking I wasn't really dependent on any specific software despite ethics. Even though much of the software I use is free, including image and video editing software; I realized that there was a controversy over audacity a little while ago. They recently had a license change that people didn't like, but because I still loved that program (used it even in my pre-teen years), it's still been stuck with me to this day. I could make the blanket excuse of "there's no other software that does what audacity does", but the thing I'm noticing is that I'm just not using energy really to go fight that statement, and thus I just sortof live with it still. I still love audacity, I don't use it often, but when I do it gets the job done, so it still lives on my machine despite recent controversies

@tzabarpho.

Жыл бұрын

what did they change in the license?

@hugocastilla3102

Жыл бұрын

Same. I know there are better audio editing programms... but I'm very much used to Audacity. It's free and gets the job done in my case

@iSlammedMyKindle

Жыл бұрын

@@tzabarpho. late reply, but I ate my words to do some digging; turns out it was a really brief change before pedaling back on the decision. On wikipedia they mention it was a proposal for adding in telemetry, but they since took it out of the policy

@tzabarpho.

Жыл бұрын

@@iSlammedMyKindle oh ok

Great video But I'd recommend cutting down the music after the intro

The government pays for our creative cloud in my school, and i've definitely taken it for granted, never realised it was this expensive or that it was a subscription.

This is what happens when a company has a monopoly. Overpriced and lowkey busted apps.

@dee23gaming

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they don't give a crap about the bugs. They are too busy rollin' in cash.