Why would a man want more than one mother-in-law?

@MrTheGuitarNerd

4 жыл бұрын

Masochism?

@rachelczumaya2806

4 жыл бұрын

More practice exercising charity..? 😂😂😂

@dawudgt

4 жыл бұрын

Mixing all of them to have a good one

@japprivera3129

4 жыл бұрын

that is a good one LOL!!!

@kuzivaj.z

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

This is off topic but can we give some appreciation to this man's fantastic beard?

@mattchalup

4 жыл бұрын

It's obviously fake. Made out of velvet

@BenHaMiqra

4 жыл бұрын

Lev 19:27

@AndrewVasel

4 жыл бұрын

right?! that was my very first thought

@myroom1913

4 жыл бұрын

I didn’t even notice anything different with the beard, was far too busy listening to what he’s saying.

@charleshendrick7266

4 жыл бұрын

This I also observed. Nice well maintained beard indeed. Im not so impressed with his theology however.

I can understand why Solomon said "everything is meaningless.." :)

@davidjsouth231

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@hoshi8741

2 жыл бұрын

Bro had become bored with his wisdom

@heftymagic4814

2 жыл бұрын

@@hoshi8741 and God apparently lol

@letstalkbiblewithshun.s

2 жыл бұрын

Hundreds of wives and concubines later he gets that revelation. Lol🤣😂😅

@greatlyblessed7

3 ай бұрын

Perspective not Biblical truth for all

Marriage!! What a beautiful elucidation on The Original purpose, Desire and path of The Almighty God. How I wish our generation will see and hear this. Thank You sir.

@d.rabbit7276

2 жыл бұрын

No western male should ever consider marrying. What are the benefits? There's only disadvantages that makes a man into a submissive simp to be fleeced by the family court system.

@stef3603

Жыл бұрын

Polygomy: what a beautiful elucidation on the purpose and path of god, representing his unconditional, unbiased love and freedom of choice.

@yohanan713

Жыл бұрын

@@stef3603 a path that leads to jealousy, lies, distrust, and in a truly primordial context.... murder and tribal war. Love is not defined by sex according to leftists. Polygamy has nothing to do with love. It's not selfless in any capacity.

@RandommomfromOntario

Жыл бұрын

@stef3603 yes freedom of choice.. to be in a Monogamous marraige. HalleluYAH ❤️‍🔥

@danielburton2927

Жыл бұрын

@@RandommomfromOntario “If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be her's that was hated: then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: but he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭21:15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬ God allows you to marry multiple wives . after reading this go back and read all the new testament. There is only 1 instance where the Bible clearly states A man can only marry 1 Wife . “A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;” ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:2‬ ‭KJV A Bishop must be the husband of one wife . What would be the need for God to clarify that, if everyone only has 1 wife . That statement alone shows you there are instances where someone with more than 1 wife is present .

Why do people say, "Why did GOD 'allow' it?" when MAN does strange things? Why do people blame God for their misdeeds? God allowed man freedom of choice. He gave them the ability to know right from wrong and to choose either one knowing that there would be consequences depending on what they choose. It is as simple as that.

@jdwest34

3 жыл бұрын

When did god “allow” freedom of choice? Humans took freedom when god wouldn’t allow it. The people you are referring to would rather be ignorant and still in the “garden”.

@UltimatePiccolo

3 жыл бұрын

Because Moses knows more than the guy making this video. If it was a sin, he wouldn't have done it. It's very simple.

@bibin1712

3 жыл бұрын

@@jdwest34 that’s what he said, there going to be consequences for what you choose to do.

@thomasstevens9551

3 жыл бұрын

@@jdwest34 that is actually a good philosophic conundrum you present. Can light exist without darkness? Is it possible for good to exist without evil? Was SOMEONE predestined to choose evil to prove that freedom of choice and good and evil exist? Perhaps this is why God had a plan of Salvation even before he laid the foundation of existence and creation.

@huostonedliger3558

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomasstevens9551 when God is all powerful and all loving how can we not simply have good /goodness why create chaos when we're all his children ,can't we live in peace???

In my opinion when people say why did god 'allow' polygamy, theyre really asking: "why isnt polygamy a sin?"

@kayla_battle

4 жыл бұрын

It technically is. Marriage is one man and one women. If you have more than one wife or husband. U r not loyal to that ONE PERSON. Which is adultery...which is a sin

@revellblackwell

4 жыл бұрын

Kayla Battle What scripture did you get your definition of adultery from?

@johnseb5856

4 жыл бұрын

@@kayla_battle that is not true. Even for sake of argument i can agree with you but still ask "why is it technical and not actual"? God was not technical when he gave commandments

@campion04

4 жыл бұрын

You need to be more clear. What you mean to ask is, why isn’t 1 man, multiple wives a sin? Because it is a sin with 1 woman and multiple men. First. How you know it’s not a sin. 1 Timothy. Where it describes the expectations of pope and deacon. These are the men who must have no more than a single wife. If It was was a sin, That would be obvious. He wouldn’t have needed to say “he can’t be a murderer”. He went out of his way to say that because, for others, it wasn’t a sin. The why? Well. One can only guess God’s reasons, but I’ve found God to always have good reasons for what he says/demands. If I were to guess, with limited effort, I can already think of situations when polygamy might not only be allowed, it might be necessary. Say when half the men of child birthing age, if you can call it that, are dead from war.

@lynngatrell7965

4 жыл бұрын

Polygamy isn't sin. If it were, God would never have called prophets who were polygamists and allowed their priesthood authority to continue. This is how I look at it: God created us with the ability to procreate. Is the act of sex wrong in itself? Of course not. It's the boundaries that God has set for it. As long as it is within the bonds of marriage, that's acceptable. Once outside of it, it is no longer acceptable, and it's in violation of God's laws. God gave the law and institution of marriage, and he sets the rules and boundaries. If it were ever wrong in his eyes for a man to marry more than one woman, he would have made it to clear that it was immoral to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the men and prophets through the ages who did so.

I have been struggling with this topic while reading the Old Testament. This is probably best explanation I have heard on this subject.

@danieldeluca4936

Жыл бұрын

The reason you struggled, is that the Holy Spirit was telling you, through the Word of God, that there is nothing wrong with polygyny, but you didn't want to accept that, and so you found a teacher that will tickle your itching ears and will justify the unrighteous jealousy that you allow yourself to have.

@eew8060

10 ай бұрын

​@@danieldeluca4936 Are you a Mormon?

@danieldeluca4936

10 ай бұрын

@@eew8060 Nope! I had a chance to talk to a couple of Mormon missionaries in my home recently. I mentioned to them that the Book of Mormon specifically condemns polygamy in five places, including the Book of Jacob, chapter 2. What about you? Are you Mormon?

@eew8060

10 ай бұрын

@@danieldeluca4936 Nope. Not a Mormon. I also don't believe the bible promotes polygamy at all. One man one woman relationships only

@danieldeluca4936

10 ай бұрын

@@eew8060 Well the only book that tells you that polygamy is prohibited, is the Book of Mormon, so you would fit in real well with the mainline Mormon church. The Bible has no condemnation of non-excessive polygyny whatsoever!

Just appreciate Professor G’s background and analysis on this very difficult question.

"Hell and Destruction are never full..therefore the eyes of man are never satisfied."-Proverbs 27:20

God “allows” humans to do what ever they want because they have free will. Just because man does it doesn’t mean God sanctions it. God lays out his will for man it’s up to man to be obedient.

@airmandorian

4 жыл бұрын

John The Revelator Thanks, man. I thought people like you did not exist in the comments section, lol.

@TheShinedownfan21

4 жыл бұрын

God sanctions everything that occurs. He is very tolerant, he has no creed.

@crushsatan

4 жыл бұрын

God actually gave multiple wives to king David. He even said he would have given him more if he asked. It was not a question of God "allowing " it. God actively supported it.

@crushsatan

4 жыл бұрын

2 Samuel 12:8.

@danielcarpen

4 жыл бұрын

No he does not

Man, that clear-concise-refreshing Thank Lord for colaboring w/Southern Seminary in adding understanding to me 🙇🏾‍♂️

@thebryanhigh

6 сағат бұрын

There is nothing concise about his non answer

Why does God say to David (and I'm paraphrasing) "if you had asked me for more wives I would have given them to you"?

@halleluyahtorahdefenders8469

2 жыл бұрын

And no response, cause they know God is fine with polygyny

@DavidSuperDaveMartin70

2 жыл бұрын

@@halleluyahtorahdefenders8469 He didnt say he would have given him more wives simultaneously

@Terrestrial

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent point. Notice how that verse was left out? The reason that David had simultaneous wives at all is because G-d gave him so many, according to the verses. Then He told David He would have given him yet more. This speaker's opinions and personal preferences are one thing, but ignoring the verses in order to support them is disingenuous.

@marianskodowski8337

2 жыл бұрын

You're right. And it is not in Old Testament only. In Matthew 25 we can read the Parable of the Ten Virgins. And that describes the multiple marriage. In Jewish Torah there are rules concerning levirate marriage which often leads to polygyny. The truth is that the monogamy does not come from Jerusalem or Israel, but from Rome and Grece. The monogamy of the Roman Empire was the cause of two explanatory notes in the writings of Josephus describing how the polygamous marriages of Herod the Great were permitted under Jewish custom. Apostle Paul didn't treat women and man the same concerning the marriage, he wrote in Romans 7 "1 Or do you not know, brothers (for I am speaking to ones knowing the Law), that the Law lords-over the person for as much time as he lives? 2 For the married woman has been bound by the Law to the living husband; but if the husband dies, she has been released from the law of the husband. 3 So then, while the husband is living, she will be called an adulteress if she comes to a different husband. But if the husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress, having come to a different husband." Why didn't Paul say the same about husband? (if man and woman are equal in marriage)?! He gives as the example a wife as according to the Law (verse 1) a man can marry as many wifes in his life as he wants, but woman can have only one living husband. So apostle Paul saw marriage in a Jewish way which of course allowed the polygyny. Dictation of monogamy has pagan roots. Paul as prophet will write "1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will depart from the faith, paying-attention-to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars having been seared as to their own conscience- 3 forbidding to marry (...)" And it has began from forbidding the polygyny.

@sigalsmadar4547

4 күн бұрын

​@@marianskodowski8337Oy, the 10 virgins weren't all for the one groom! There was one bridge and her 9 attendants!

Nice lighting dude.. your director of photography should have a bonus this year :) Nice topic too

Why any man would want the headache of having more than one wife is beyond me. One is one more than I care to deal with.

@rkirkpatrick01

4 жыл бұрын

Misagynists shouldn't even take one wife.

@beam5037

4 жыл бұрын

Polygamy wasn’t the answer for a poor marriage I don’t believe. If you really had good success with number 1 you might get another if you could afford it and wanted lots of kids. I guess.

@danielcarpen

4 жыл бұрын

@@beam5037 Vasectomies are awsome and I got the 2nd marriage right.

@beam5037

4 жыл бұрын

I’m guessing Women are much better wives when they aren’t the only ones. I once had a rooster who had only one hen and she treated him like dirt. The other rooster I had , had many hens and they all treated him well, some better than others.

@AuContraireMonFraire

4 жыл бұрын

Beam same in real life with women.

Very well explained. Thank you for this!

I really appreciate Dr. Gentry's style and cadence of explaining very hard answers to very hard questions. I have profited well from his answers in understanding what polygamy was in the Bible and what it was not.

@toughbiblepassages9082

2 жыл бұрын

I personally think he avoided texts that contradict his hypothesis.

@husseinamaz6842

2 жыл бұрын

read my comment sir

@sabrinamartino777

Жыл бұрын

@@toughbiblepassages9082 where in the Bible does it say that polygamy is okay. Can you make a KZread video citing this. Thanks

@patricianoel7782

Жыл бұрын

Especially since I was Mormon for 60 years. 🤭Truly, thanks,

@husseinamaz6842

Жыл бұрын

@@sabrinamartino777 may i ask u this question : in which case divorce in allowed according to new testament ?

Proverbs 3:5 trust in the Lord with thine whole heart and lean not to thine own understanding

@patmelton43

4 жыл бұрын

and the rest of that verse is "in all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

@kensmechanicalaffair

3 жыл бұрын

Ye, and amen.

@marriageofthelambassemblie1693

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@halleluyahtorahdefenders8469

2 жыл бұрын

@@marriageofthelambassemblie1693 Great ministry. Polygyny is not against Torah

@magatism

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus trumps em all and he rejected polygamy.

Superbly done. I will save this for my own and others future reference. Never heard this better explained. Simple and concise. Praise the Lord

Great clarification, sir! Best I've seen and heard!

This teacher addresses such important topics. These are things so many people stumble over or make them feel the Bible is contradictory.

Brain: Go to sleep KZread: Santa explains Bible verses. Brain: Yes

@okitasougo8265

3 жыл бұрын

Yo I read ur comment as Satan

@kayc.8283

3 жыл бұрын

@@okitasougo8265 😂

@beauty1984ash

3 жыл бұрын

@@okitasougo8265 me too and I came to the comments to see what people had to say about that lol

@mpumelelozwane9229

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🙌🏾

@mxolisimsimango9367

3 жыл бұрын

😅😂😂😂😂😂😂

Absolutely love that you tackle these tough questions

*Great answer* to an important question! *Thank you for helping me see the distinction* between the divine moral and corrupt human morals in the old testament!

@husseinamaz6842

2 жыл бұрын

read my comment sir

@Asiyah2000

Жыл бұрын

Woah 😳😳😳 what??

@cliftongaither6642

Жыл бұрын

please, explain to me how your god is moral.

@mnm8818

Жыл бұрын

copy pasted rant: ah God never punishes polygamy. but if you wear mix fabrics, or call someone bald, you deeeead. if you or someone in your town accidentally does something wrong (to Bible God) you deeeeead. Many bible characters went to 'red light districts' no punishment- Judges 19 a Levite priest's female slave get assaulted by some randoms in a Benjamite city. so he kills her and Israel goes to civil war with Bible Gods backing to genocide the Benjamites. -Genesis 38: Joshua sleeps with his daughter thinking shes a prostitue. -Moses married a pagan priestess. -Many Israeli married Canaanite which is forbidden. - if you have birth defects you are unclean and desecrate Bible Gods sanctuary- Leviticus 21:17 - Onan bro Er couldn't have enough babies so God kills him. - Numbers 16 if you complain to Moses about so many of your own people died by God's hand you die. no punishment for polygamy though. God sounds like an ancient middle eastern dad with bad parenting skills.

@metalgearsolidsnake6978

Жыл бұрын

Spiderman no way home< Well if it is a king, he can have whatever he wish for.

Very well delivered, and easy to understand. Thank

I could listen to this guy explain scripture all day!

@bencovington1121

3 жыл бұрын

Please don’t!

@linaawadallaiskander7594

3 жыл бұрын

Read well please because he allows polygamy actually this video is not saying the truth. But when David took another man's wife God said " if you wanted another wife I would have given it to you". He didn't say you have enough wives u don't need any more. But I do agree God's plan was 1 wife. 23 Do you think that God changed this commandment about polygamy in the old testament which shows that God allowed polygamy :Exo 21:10 NHEB-YHWH If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marital rights. Because he did with some commandments in the new testament. Here they are: Actually I believe that this was written in Chapter John, Jesus says he is changing some laws in the bible. And he mentioned because the people in the old testament were very evil he allowed them to do what they want and he says now it is different. One of the examples is God allowing divorce when a man gives certain amount of money to the woman who married her whether from fornication, rape, marriage ceremony. So, the God in the old Testament allowed divorce. Also, there were three ways that people got married in the old Testament. One was sex (becoming one flesh), second rape (google sex in marriage and divorce bible verses in the old testament), third was marriage ceremony. Anyone who committed any of them was considered married according to God's commandments in the old testament. In the new testament when God was speaking to the women (at the water) who was having sex with many men, God reveals that she is not married (highlight that God considered her not married it is not a word mentioned in the bible but the story concludes that) and she is sinning (fornication). (which is opposite from the old testament as I mentioned). So, As you see The Bible changed some of the commandment from the old testament to the new testament. Lastly, God himself says he came to finish (perfect) the testimony and fulfill the prophecies. (Perfecting his biblical book, changing some of his commandment as you see from what is mentioned above). There is nothing wrong with God changing his laws in Bible as he is fulfilling the law (which means making it perfect, and that means to perfect something you can change it. Which is what Jesus did). This is something most Christians miss.

@kevinschaefer3945

3 жыл бұрын

@@linaawadallaiskander7594 Sounds like you're teaching Mormonism rather than Christianity.

@70ad84

3 жыл бұрын

Deuteronomy 21:15-23 King James Version 15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: 16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: 17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

@GDZHOUSE

3 жыл бұрын

@@linaawadallaiskander7594 You just spilled out a bunch of Cognitive dissonance and blasphemy! Wow!

Thank you for these short videos which are really helpful.

Man you did a really good job with explaining that and you actually answered the question

@toughbiblepassages9082

2 жыл бұрын

But he never actually went into any of texts. He merely mentioned them in passing without diving into what they mean in their contexts.

@grantikos

Жыл бұрын

He did a really good job telling you what the Bible doesn't say. He tickled your ears. Read your Bible, believe the words on the page, don't believe this false teacher.

@RandommomfromOntario

Жыл бұрын

With so many men on here believing in Polygamy you'd think there would be no single women left out here 🤷🏾‍♀️🤣

@lesliewinchester8225

Жыл бұрын

@@RandommomfromOntario single women are that way due to widowhood. We don’t want another lying man. We’ve had one.

@danieldeluca4936

Жыл бұрын

@@lesliewinchester8225 That is outrageous! I know lots of women who never married and who want or have wanted a husband. I know of two right now who bemoan the fact that their younger brother is getting married, and they are both still looking for their "Prince Charming". My older sister was in her late 30s when she finally married, and she told me of how she cried herself to sleep every night. A worship pastor at my former church spoke of a lady who finally found a husband when she was 81 years old!

thank you, Dr Gentry, for making these short videos.

Thank you for your words man! This was needed

It's still hard to understand since it was God himself who gave Saul's wives to David (2 Sam. 12:8). By so doing, isn't God tacitly approving polygamy by blessing (?) David with many?

@azmike1956

4 жыл бұрын

Rob Bailey, To populate the earth & continue family lines. Monogamous relationships came later. With you bro.

@nihilistic7840

4 жыл бұрын

Population was sufficient by this time, surely.

@brodiwheeler7583

4 жыл бұрын

It was viewed as a blessing by the people of that time, but look at all the trouble that came from David’s many wives. God allows us to do and have things that are not always good for us sometimes, probably in the hopes that we learn and come eventually to see what matters most in the end. Just my take.

@Eraktab

4 жыл бұрын

yeah often things that God permits to happen are things in which people describe as God doing*. As Brodi mentioned above, these may be things that aren't ideal and sometimes serve to sculpt a person. Solomon may have been allowed (by God) to have these wives specifically to place him under the temptation of multiplying wives. Such temptations are allowed to test ones faith - this is heavily echoed in the new testament.

@peaceblessings4512

4 жыл бұрын

I once listened to a Muslim and a Christian have a light discussion back and forth. Both were trying to show why the other why their faith was incorrect. Finally, the Muslim says something aling the lines of: "You may be right...I may be wrong...but at least I do what my book says. Why dont Christians do what their book says? Why should anyone listen to a hypocrite? Even atheists know more about what the Bible says then most Christians! Your book says dont eat pork, and Christians eat pork. It says observe Passover, and Christians observe Easter. It says rest on Sabbath, and Christians font do it." Muslims know they can take 4 wives and multiply children. The Bible places no restrictions on believers. Christians can take multiple wives and multiply children, yet they listen to what their Pastor or denomination teaches, rather than what the Bible teaches. Its their fault for trusting in man, rather than trusting in God. One can say there is no need to keep Gods command to be fruitful and multiply...yet is the righteous on earth increasing...or decreasing? I see much sin and wickedness today. May so called believers be cursed until they wake up and repent...namely those teaching falsehood. _I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live..._ _Dueteronomy __30:19_

I just found this channel and this is great!!!!

Wow, thank you so much for this thorough and clear explanation. This answered many of my questions. ❤️

@husseinamaz6842

2 жыл бұрын

read my comment miss

Not to mention that also when an old testament man had more than one wife, God opened the womb of the wife that was not loved as much as the other wife or wives. God closed the womb of the wife that was loved more.

@toughbiblepassages9082

2 жыл бұрын

God speaks to this very thing in His law in Deuteronomy 21:15 and forbids a man from giving a double portion inheritance to his favored wife instead of to the actual firstborn son of an unfavored wife. I think the principle and spirit of the law here is outlawing a man from playing favorites, and how inheritance rights are granted is the example used to communicate that principle.

I was always told this and it is nice to hear others are going forward with the same message. You have to read the bible in totality and read it in context. Thank you.

@boracay12

2 жыл бұрын

But .... When David took another man's wife , got her pregnant and then had her husband set up to die in battle etc . God told David " if you wanted another wife all you had to do was ask .I would have gladly given you one " hmmmm ..gladly .. would have given him another . Ok I remembered it a little differently . Here it is ;I gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your keeping, and gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if that had been too little, I also would have given you much more

@patmelton43

2 жыл бұрын

@@boracay12 The sword never left David's house from that day onward. God NEVER winks at sin. Sure people sin, but they never get away with it. "Be sure your sins will find you out." David's private life was plagued. One son killed the other. One of his sons tried to kill David. the bloodshed was so bad that God would not allow David to build the temple.

@boracay12

2 жыл бұрын

@@patmelton43 all true . But my point was that David had several wife's and hundreds of " concubines" yet God said through his prophet he would have gladly giving him another wife if he had asked . Instead of taking someone wife . That's the argument for having more than one wife . That wasn't Gods intention . But he allowed it .

@patmelton43

2 жыл бұрын

@@boracay12 My point is that God loves women just as much as he loves men and there is no favoritism in God. God NEVER sanctions marriage of man to more than one woman. That would make him vile - and God is perfect. He loves women just as much as men so He would not make women property. And you are misquoting God. God said, "I would have given you such and such. He never mentions "wives" in that statement.

@boracay12

2 жыл бұрын

@@patmelton43 god allowed the Israelites to have more than one wife . He never punished anyone for having 2 . It's not his original intent for men to have 2 wife's but he allowed it . Fact .

You have to pity “pastors” and “scholars” who hold doctrines of men above God’s commandments.

Always enjoy your videos. Thank you.

EXCELLENT video my friend. Keep up the fantastic work you do. Shout it from the mountain tops.

@70ad84

3 жыл бұрын

Now ask him to perfectly explain this video Deuteronomy 21:15-2 kjv 15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: 16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: 17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

@mrnoedahl

3 жыл бұрын

@@70ad84 I like this one even more. Deuteronomy 21:18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

These comments are wise but ultimately unhelpful. The Old Testament goes beyond merely describing incidents of polygamy. The law of Moses (dictated by Jehovah!) outlines rules for polygamy and slave wives. This can't just be ignored.

@rebeccacampbell585

2 жыл бұрын

No and it's not a contradiction either. What did the jews in the Bible do? Moses wanted them to walk up the mountain and see God for themselves but they refused. They just wanted Moses to do it for them. They damned themselves to a lesser law. So the rules you're talking about are just administrative rules for living in their community in the lower state they chose for themselves. And you can see how it turned out for them. I dont condemn them myself as most Christians are now doing exactly as they did at that time. Lazy, won't know God, choose a lower and easier way.

I've come to the conclusion that monogamy was a principle or standard, but not a law. There is no mention of punitive action by God for polygamy, whereas for actual laws being broken, there was. I find the morality vs faith argument interesting and likely valid. Good talk!

@Yohanyothan

Жыл бұрын

How can a man cleave to multiple wives?

@Yohanyothan

Жыл бұрын

And how can he go about his current marriage while courting another? Doesn’t that require emotional and physical attraction? Adultery of the heart and even body?

@pmgddm

Жыл бұрын

@@Yohanyothan Marriage at that time was far more an economic or political union than anything to do with desire, love, or any other kind of attraction. Especially for wealthy or royal men. No courting involved. Many could legitimately argue that the direction to "cleave" to your wife has far more to do with providing security, food, clothing, housing, etc., than any emotional attachment and, if one has the means, can easily be done individually with multiple wives. Again, ancient Hebrew (and other) marriages of wealthy and royal men had so little to do with emotion and desire one could safely say those had nothing to do with it. FYI, I'm not a polygamy advocate for many reasons, but I do find most of the arguments against it based on biblical principles and examples extremely weak. For example, saying it's not good because of stories that it didn't end well is an argument that could also be applied to singular marriage. It often doesn't go well either.

@kclark8080

Жыл бұрын

@@pmgddm I'd lean more to the thought that it was cultural. There was no political or economic benefit to Moses have multiple wives, yet he did. Even if you go with the thought that in order to propagate the nation of Israel, polygamy was allowed, it seemed to be something that God allowed, though not his original purpose. Pre-Abraham biblical titans, Adam and Noah seemed to stick with the single wife principle but after that, it was game on, climaxing with the 700 wife/300 concubine insanity that was Solomon. If Abraham, Moses and David were polygamist, there's no justification for it to be a sin.

@kclark8080

Жыл бұрын

@@Yohanyothan Both sets of your questions deal with marriage from an emotional aspect. This is not relevant to law or even principle; for the sake of this argument.

That actually makes a lot of sense. Thank you for the enlightenment.

The video didn’t answer the question? It just give a story of what happens.

@patmelton43

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it did. The man said it was not God's will for men to have more than one wife. He spoke of all the trouble polygamy causes. Read the New Testament and quit trying to justify your sinful lust for more than one woman.

@DidierBan

4 жыл бұрын

Pat Melton , wow 😮 never see that coming ; are you ok sis . I’m a happily married man in love with only one woman.....my wife. The title says why God allowed polygamy .

@GazpachoMacho

4 жыл бұрын

@Didier 619 Apologies for her. She assumed you were being a hypocrite obviously without knowing you first. Experience shows that people don’t usually do that unless there is a bit of self righteousness somewhere in their motives. This is an unfortunate thing for anyone trying to spread the good news. But I would just like to point out however that the person in the video actually did give an answer. God has many times told people that polygamy is a sin and has spoken against it many times as well. See Deuteronomy 17:17 for one example. But even though he commanded people not to do it they still disobeyed him. Even people who served him and were saved disobeyed him. But as with all sins God does allow them. Because it may surprise you that He uses all things to work together for His good even evil things. So yes God did allow it for a time. But mind you it was still a sin and all sins must and will be paid for. Fortunately for the people who trusted in him back then, and even now they didn’t have to pay for their sins themselves. Because God sent his son to die in our place so that His righteousness could be given to us and we wouldn’t have to pay an eternal price of death. And more importantly so we can spend forever with him in perfect happiness and love. The same is true for anyone who repents of their old ways, and asks Him to be Lord over their lives. I pray that you would see the truth and I tell you these things with good will and love. Peace be with you, and run to God. I promise it will be worth your while. He wants to love you. And he wants to make you perfect.

@DidierBan

4 жыл бұрын

@@GazpachoMacho , thanks for your reply . God bless you Brother.

@DocJoeStan

4 жыл бұрын

@@DidierBan And it is a presumptive question. "Does God allow polygamy in the bible?" would be a better worded question.

God made Adam and Eve. Not Adam, Eve, Stacy, and Jane.

@jacinths94

4 жыл бұрын

YEEESSSSSS

@vorklan

4 жыл бұрын

Adam, eve, stacy,Jane, jack and jill, ....., , , , ,,

@rkirkpatrick01

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair and accurate, God creates everyone.

@patpittz6709

4 жыл бұрын

@@rkirkpatrick01 yea but the garden account was not an orgy. The more as times goes on the more I see how sick and carnal we're becoming. Something so simple as Adam and Eve gets twisted into polygamy.

@rkirkpatrick01

4 жыл бұрын

@@patpittz6709 will of course there is no "orgy" in the Bible. Adam and Eve is a description, of events, not a prescription for others. For that we look at the legislation within God's word. Exo 21:10 If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights. If it were a case of adultery, well, the penalty for that was death. It's only a carnal mind that twists God's command into an orgy.

Finally, someone who can provide clear answers and explanations regarding the Bible without indulging in lengthy rhetoric. He gets straight to the point, using relevant biblical passages that are actually applicable.

@me-pz5yi

8 ай бұрын

Exactly

@rightreasons7908

6 ай бұрын

He didn’t answer the question though. We can see that God was not pleased with polygamy but, why did he allow it? Did David end up in hell because he had more than one wife which under the law of Moses would be considered adultery? That’s the real question. Did these men who had more than one wife commit adultery, ongoing sin and end up in hell?

@Vater1

4 ай бұрын

💪🏾

This was mind blowing. Just let's us know today that we are not expected to be perfect bc they were nowhere near perfect. Just Keep grinding ppl🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

The question was never answered. The video explained what happened with multiple wives but not why God allowed it which was the question.

@Dr.Elaine1

4 жыл бұрын

Tim Fevens Exactly!

@abelflores3752

4 жыл бұрын

Tim Fevens it could be because God allows us freely do what we want, he gives us free will, it’s up to us to do what is righteous

@dariutoma2464

4 жыл бұрын

Tom Fevens...God has different plan's/goals from ours... So different, like from the Earth to the sky, are His plan's from ours. He wish to have many Son's in His Kingdom... And we wish cars, house's, nice clothings, gadgets and a lott of food for our belly :)) :)) :)) yes... and not to forget: many shoes and handbags. There is just a single woman in the whole Bible who giveth birth to 20 kids... and her's husband was a special, and blessed Man! There was many people heaving many kids from different wifes, and is interesting why is not writting about Solomon's kid's... We do know about his 1000 woman's (700+300) and none of them was righteouss ... There was Jerubaal with 70 + 1 Son's from many wifes, and all of them die... except one... (A wise one). But, the questions is, did those kids reach the Kingdom of Heaven, after they die? *This is God's finall goal!* We marry, we have kids and after a while, maybe 20 years or even earlier, they are *"leaving the nest"* and what we invest in them is the all we can do, in this 20 years! The questions is: What are our goals about/for them..? Do we try to transform them in Specialists, in Doctors, Rocket Scientists, Lawyers, Pilot's ... Or do we try to bring them in God's Kingdom ?!? Are our plans His plan's???

@GeorgeDEE78

4 жыл бұрын

and what happened with multiple wives was exactly why God said one man one women, it was a warning they missed the point like you missed the point in the video.

@fearlesscrusader

4 жыл бұрын

@@dariutoma2464 No, that is not the question. The question is, why do you randomly sprinkle apostrophes throughout so many of your plurals?

Good word. Perfect indeed. Only the faithful understands this and I love it. It's truth and you can't do nothing against it but only for it.

@linaawadallaiskander7594

3 жыл бұрын

Read well please because he allows polygamy actually this video is not saying the truth. But when David took another man's wife God said " if you wanted another wife I would have given it to you". He didn't say you have enough wives u don't need any more. But I do agree God's plan was 1 wife. 23 Do you think that God changed this commandment about polygamy in the old testament which shows that God allowed polygamy :Exo 21:10 NHEB-YHWH If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marital rights. Because he did with some commandments in the new testament. Here they are: Actually I believe that this was written in Chapter John, Jesus says he is changing some laws in the bible. And he mentioned because the people in the old testament were very evil he allowed them to do what they want and he says now it is different. One of the examples is God allowing divorce when a man gives certain amount of money to the woman who married her whether from fornication, rape, marriage ceremony. So, the God in the old Testament allowed divorce. Also, there were three ways that people got married in the old Testament. One was sex (becoming one flesh), second rape (google sex in marriage and divorce bible verses in the old testament), third was marriage ceremony. Anyone who committed any of them was considered married according to God's commandments in the old testament. In the new testament when God was speaking to the women (at the water) who was having sex with many men, God reveals that she is not married (highlight that God considered her not married it is not a word mentioned in the bible but the story concludes that) and she is sinning (fornication). (which is opposite from the old testament as I mentioned). So, As you see The Bible changed some of the commandment from the old testament to the new testament. Lastly, God himself says he came to finish (perfect) the testimony and fulfill the prophecies. (Perfecting his biblical book, changing some of his commandment as you see from what is mentioned above). There is nothing wrong with God changing his laws in Bible as he is fulfilling the law (which means making it perfect, and that means to perfect something you can change it. Which is what Jesus did). This is something most Christians miss.

@40ozhemlock

2 жыл бұрын

Fanboy

@toughbiblepassages9082

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you’ve made up and your mind and you don’t care what anyone else says or does, or even what the Bible says (because he never quoted it directly in this video).

It’s really concerning when Church leaders will slander King David’s name, grouping David with Solomon, claiming that he committed the same sin as Solomon, when God’s Word explicitly says that David did not sin like Solomon (2 Kings)

The Old Testament allows polygamy but doesn’t encourage it. Great men such as Abraham, Israel, Judah, Gideon, Samson, David, and Solomon had multiple wives, though the Old Testament records many problems that resulted. However, the law actually made it mandatory in one circumstance: if a married man died without leaving a male heir, his brother was required to marry his widow regardless of whether he already had a wife.

@marriageofthelambassemblie1693

2 жыл бұрын

👏

@1Whipperin

2 жыл бұрын

There's many problems with monogamy too. Biblical law regulated having more than one wife so it's not a sin and polygamy is lawful. This teacher is lying.

@IanKowalski77

2 жыл бұрын

Bible is non sense

@toughbiblepassages9082

2 жыл бұрын

If the levitate marriage law required was required even if it results in polygamy, (as you say, and as I agree with) then that means as a matter of principle, that polygamy cannot be wrong.

@IanKowalski77

2 жыл бұрын

It's a ll crap written and edited over millenniums

Thank you Dr Gentry! “They were examples of Faith not examples of morality”...that explains Samson and Jepthah being named in the famous Hebrews Chapter 11 Hall of Faith chapter...I have always been puzzled by this? How could Samson (his lifestyle) and Jepthah (sacrificing his daughter) be in this faith chapter.

@eric777100763

4 жыл бұрын

You should know the answer to that. Because we live under grace. The truth is man is totally depraved, however when Yeshua shed his blood of Calvary those sins were remitted. Anybody since been saved for more than a year should know that you see the junk there teaching in the seminaries.

@headlinenewsrant5134

4 жыл бұрын

Jepthath didn't "sacrifice" his daughter.

@rickperez1336

4 жыл бұрын

Headline Newsrant Judges 11: 29 - 40

@headlinenewsrant5134

4 жыл бұрын

@@rickperez1336 I know where it's located. Read it again...use varying versions. Jepthah's daughter wasn't burned as an offering. Her life wasn't lamented...her virginity was.

@eric777100763

4 жыл бұрын

Well first of all it doesn't exactly say he did kill her although it appears to me that he did. My opinion about this if he did it he did it on his own accord. I do not see any conversation between him and Yahweh about what should be done. Yahweh doesn't take human sacrifices I think there's something not exactly right with this story. In other words I'm saying I don't know the answer to that particular verse to be honest. I'll say it one more time though I think he opened his big mouth I don't see Yahweh asking for that. The only time that that happened before was when Abraham took Isaac and you don't notice that God stopped him and he sent a ram that they didn't use for the sacrifice. Something doesn't seem right with this story.

I will get married in the eyes of God, I refuse to get married in the eyes of the State. In the age of Grace, all is allowed, just not recommended. Proceed with caution.

@AR-withBumpStockRoundDrumMag

4 жыл бұрын

Marriage License causes alot of problems. Its a union of man, woman, and state...a polygamous relationship. To disolve it, the man and woman have to go before the government and get permission...

@rachelmcclain5367

4 жыл бұрын

Why do you say that? I'm just trying to gain perspective. Because I would do both, live by the laws of the land, but also being married in the eyes of God because that is what he wants.

@markwilding3828

3 жыл бұрын

The State will see it differently when it comes to who gets the house when it all goes sideways.

@rachelmcclain5367

3 жыл бұрын

@@markwilding3828 Hopefully a marriage would be built to last. Unfortunately, evil could seep its way into someone life too easy

@ViewMyChannelAndBeBlessed

3 жыл бұрын

Love is the most important thing between a marriage. And the Level of Love both have for one another. Love never fails. Not even a certification of marriage will be able to break a marriages foundation built on Devoted Love. Instead of rushing into something, it's important for both involved to Build a Strong Love Bond as well as Strong Convictions that will hinder anything looking to disrupt that Bond of Love. And if one does not have desire ,Devotion, and Discipline for Love, the best thing would be to MOVE ON. For the sake of both your Hearts.

WoW! Thank you for your explanation, sir. It is very helpful xxx

This guy makes a good point, also I've always loved that parable told to David. It's really sad

Interesting. Although, concerning his interpretation of Nathan's illustration for David, couldn't one also argue that there is no condemnation mentioned for having many wives? Additionally, in 2 Samuel 12:8, God seems to have blessed David with many wives by saying "I gave you your master’s house, and your master’s wives into your bosom, and gave you the house of Israel and of Judah." It is evident in the Genesis narrative that God did not prescribe monogamy, but would you really say it is a sin?

@pmgddm

Жыл бұрын

Excellent point. And if those wives were, in fact, a "gift from God" doesn't that pretty much refute the argument that multiple wives were "allowed" but not "God's plan"? Would God gift a man something that He didn't believe was good for him? Again, I'm not arguing for polygamy (for many other reasons), but I find the biblical arguments extremely weak.

Thank you for that illuminating short explanation of why polygamy was tolerated by Yahweh but not promoted by Yahweh the true God. You are spot on when you refer to men of faith as in the Old Testament - but they were not necessarily men of morality - and that distinction is rarely spoken about openly. Thank you for illuminating perspective. FDH LLB MA

@wengercleopatra2150

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. God expects us to fill in the blanks. He usef cautionary tales and expects us to fill in the gaps. As someone who just avoided a terrible love triangle, pick one person of thr opposite sex and stick with them.

@toughbiblepassages9082

2 жыл бұрын

The gentleman in this video is very conniving with his words, he says the NT never upholds David as an example of morality.. which is misleading because the Bible itself actually does uphold David as an example of morality .. “because David did what was right in the eyes of the Lord and did not turn aside from anything that he commanded him all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.” ‭‭1 Kings‬ ‭15:5‬ ‭ 1 Kings 11:6 and 2 Chronicles 34:2 prove the same. But because these verses are in the OT and not the NT, the gentleman dismisses them and only focuses on NT verses on examples of morality. With all due respect to his knowledge, I think this was very very misleading of him.

@toughbiblepassages9082

Жыл бұрын

@Mile Hoho So God didn’t really want to promote polygamy, God was just kinda forced into it by the situation. That’s your theology??

@tantig5923

Жыл бұрын

Tolerated not promoted ❤️

@toughbiblepassages9082

Жыл бұрын

@@tantig5923 So when Deborah (a woman no less) sings of the blessings of victory to include “two wombs for every man.. and the land had rest for forty years” (judges 5:30) you see that as a begrudging toleration? When the Elders praise Rachel and Leah as models “who TOGETHER” raised Jacobs household.. that’s mere toleration? (Ruth 4). Western Christian’s aren’t even reading their own bibles.

Thanks professor Gentry! God bless you and your ministry! 🤲🙏

It's almost like the god will just make rules based on what is common at the time.

"Moral man" vs "man of faith", I think that is well explained. This applies to slavery too I think.

@tyronegooch5251

3 жыл бұрын

Are you referring to the Bible or history of the last few hundred years? The Bible says a person who kidnaps a person and one who buys them shall be put to death. Slavery is kidnapping.

@stevesmith7843

3 жыл бұрын

@@tyronegooch5251 well no, the bible condones indentured servitude which people wrongly call slavery, it's close, but not the same, you see the bible permits people to sell their children (their own property) for example to somebody for service, marriage, etc, and to be honest, people put their own morality on God and claim it's wrong to sell something you created that belongs to you. Unfortunately those same people either refuse to see, or genuinely haven't noticed, that it's LITERALLY the same thing Christ did for us, HE BOUGHT US, he PAID for us, as it says, we were ALL BOUGHT FOR A PRICE, and it wasn't gold or silver, but something MUCH more precious, the Holy blood of Jesus Christ the only begotten son of God almighty. That is why in my opinion paul always refers to himself as a slave for Christ, there were rules around how people were to treat their indentured servants well, very specific ones, and how servants were to serve well, how wonderful it is that our MASTER is the Father, Son, and Holy spirit, who bought and paid for us with the blood of Christ, how much more so are we than to serve well? and how much better shall we be treated by our faithful master? May God bless you and keep you :)

@DownwardsRising

3 жыл бұрын

@@tyronegooch5251 The video says that polygamy is not moral, and that examples of polygamy such as Abraham should not be considered moral examples. I'm saying slavery in the Bible is the same way. The Bible says slavery is not moral, and that examples of slavery such as Abraham should not be considered moral examples.

@DownwardsRising

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevesmith7843 Where does the Bible permit somebody to sell their children to someone else? I can't think of the place.

@stevesmith7843

3 жыл бұрын

@@DownwardsRising also as i stated previously the slavery in the bible from what i can tell is more "indentured servitude", when it comes to the real deal super oppressive what we would call "slavery" God opposes it and demands his people be set free ( the egyptians and the way they were treating the hebrews). there were laws governing treatment of slaves/indentured servants, and also laws governing their service. God bless.

Literally check 3 times if I like this video so I don't lose it. Can listen to him all day coz he explain so well.

@70ad84

3 жыл бұрын

Ask him to explain this!! Deuteronomy 21:15-23 kjv 15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: 16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: 17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

@toughbiblepassages9082

Жыл бұрын

But he never quoted scripture

@toughbiblepassages9082

Жыл бұрын

He actually misquoted scripture if you care to look it up

@toughbiblepassages9082

Жыл бұрын

@@nateria7082 He said at 5:14 that David was not a moral man, when 2 Kings 15:5 explicitly says he was a moral man (not JUST a man of faith). He says the sin of 2 Samuel 12 was about general polygamy when it says explicitly that it was actually about taking an already married woman and murdering Uriah. He says Jacob’s two wives were taught in the Bible to be a bad thing, when Ruth 4:11 says that they “together” were a blessing on Jacob’s house. Perhaps you don’t care, but I find it convenient he avoided every text that contradicted his hypothesis and glossed all too quickly over the ones he referenced.

Thank you 😊 this was a very good explanation and easy to grasp

Excellent teaching and Thank you!

Interesting.. But when David took another man's wife God said " if you wanted another wife I would have given it to you". He didn't say you have enough wives u don't need any more. But I do agree God's plan was 1 wife.

@sbryan060

4 жыл бұрын

True. Additionally God himself claims to have had two wives symbolically, Judah and Israel. It's just a cultural issue for us but it's not immoral, what's immoral is the inhumane treatment of people.

@kingladelldonaldson3728

3 жыл бұрын

Especially since there is a law for having multiple wives and how to conduct yourself.

@sbryan060

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingladelldonaldson3728 Yes sir. God's culture is life giving, FAMILY FIRST. Any evil man can sleep around, it's on every corner, but the man of God will commit, provide and protect all that God has given him.

@andybluewater2291

3 жыл бұрын

There would be only one tribe in Israel if polygamy wasn't approved and applied.

@zealheals

3 жыл бұрын

@@andybluewater2291 FFW a bit》...but isn't there only 1 Bride of Christ?

Polygamy means one man serving many women financially, emotionally and physically. That's why God allows it.

@spicykola4301

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@sinistransgressionofthetor5449

3 жыл бұрын

Serving is exactly right

@TriciaRP

3 жыл бұрын

NOT IN THIS DISPENSATION

I like these deep dives n interpretation... great channel

2:43 2:50 3:28 - David and Nathan 3:56 - What 2 Samuel 12 is saying 5:22 - “examples of Faith” vs “examples of morality” 5:52 - the problems of polygamy

No where in scripture does it say that it is a sin to have more than one wife.

@hostilesinbound3241

4 жыл бұрын

@@JRRodriguez-nu7po says who? 12 tribes came from 4 of Jacobs wives. Stop trying to add to the Torah. The Torah gives man the proper instructions on how to treat their wives if they choose to have more than one.

@chrishall227

4 жыл бұрын

adultery has always been understood as sexual encounters outside of marraige (Mat. 19 Jesus affirms God's design as one woman and one man) and adultery is sin. In fact, adultery can even be commited in the heart w/ the eyes (Mat. 5).

@hostilesinbound3241

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrishall227 adultury is having sex with another's spouce. How isnit adultury if you are married to the women?

@jakesanders136

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrishall227 Adultery has NOT always been defined as sex outside of marriage. It was understood in the old testament as specify the woman who breaks the wedlock (sleeping with a man other than her husband). In fact that's what the Hebrew word for "adultery" transliterates to. It wasn't defined by the man being exclusively with one woman.

Thank you for the video and for you taking the time to explain this to people these things need to be explained many are always miss understanding what is written we as believers know it hard but you must try and get help from someone who can talk it through with you and explain it in more detail

You are giving me Soo much enlightenment

if solomon rejected the law as you say, why God gave him the autorithy to build the holy temple ??

Not only do the wives fight and lead their husband astray, but having multiple wives to set yourself up as king is blasphemy. God is king and man's efforts to aggrandize himself usurpes God's holy station.

@jackwilliams8509

3 жыл бұрын

What if the wifes love each other

@marcellofunhouse1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackwilliams8509 thats gay and not right

My belief is through the word of the LORD

Very clear and wonderful explanation - Mankind continues to disobey God's creation standard in almost all aspects not just marriage - unfortunately!! this has huge implications, no wonder why there are so many problems in this world!

@danieldeluca4936

Жыл бұрын

Adam and Eve is DESCRIPTIVE, not PRESCRIPTIVE!

Yes, this guy is a listenable teacher. It's nice and it's needed.

Acts 17.30 New Living Translation “God overlooked people’s ignorance about these things in earlier times, but now he commands everyone everywhere to repent of their sins and turn to him.

@jusappia1580

4 жыл бұрын

@Philip Buckley, right on point

@paulwells4372

4 жыл бұрын

If you say “God overlooked people’s ignorance, you are saying God made a mistake? Impossible......

@jacquespotgieter7005

4 жыл бұрын

This is not a correct interpretation of the text. The "overlooking" was only mercy in not applying immediate judgement, it is not overlooking the eternal consequences of the sin.

@christislord4608

4 жыл бұрын

@@paulwells4372 Overlooking does not mean he missed a spot. It means he tolerated it. In a way He "lowered His standards" for humanity. But with Jesus this is no longer possible. From then on, God only holds us to the highest possible standard. As an example: Abortion. We Christians are against abortion. It is after all the termination of a human lifeform. This is undeniable. But in East Europe you can see what banning abortion has lead to. People will still do it. And because they still did it, it was done illegally, and because it was done illegally, many safety and sanitary measures were not taken care of and so many women ... 1) were infected with disease, e.g. hepatites 2) had their wombs destroyed and could never again have babies 3) even died because of the termination. So the argument is, even if abortion is forbidden, women will still do it. We Christians will hold society to, what we consider Gods standard, that means the highest morale, to preserve the unborn childs life. Where as ... other people.... will tolerate that women want to abort their pregnancy and will at least make it save and regulate it.

@fredpetiote7482

4 жыл бұрын

Check Gino jennings on KZread

WOW! I really enjoyed that teaching!!

@workingman6910

4 жыл бұрын

carwen40 - Me too, but unfortunately it’s completely wrong.

Woooow I've never ever heard it explained like this. Amen great job sir

Not only was polygamy allowed in some circumstances it was commanded in the bible, if a mans brother died with no offspring he was to marry his deceased brothers widow and multiply with her. Also when the prophet confronted David for stealing Uriahs wife God told David "if you wanted more I would had given you more(wives and concubines) but why did you have to take Uriahs wife". In the west marriage is a sham and it's not wise to even have one wife since women have too much leverage in marriage, with no fault divorce a woman can divorce a man for any reason and take half his belongings his kids and force him to pay child support and alimony. 70% of marriages in the west and initiated by women and 92% of divorces are initiated by the woman if she is college educated.

@bchazzy

4 жыл бұрын

@Alec Alberti agreed!👏🏽

@Taymariecook

4 жыл бұрын

God’s plan from the beginning was one man and one woman. Too many issues arise with polygamous relationships.

@bchazzy

4 жыл бұрын

@Alec Alberti oh wow where is your response dear? I was getting ready to read it I don't have enough time to read it at work. Can you repost it could you send it to me?

@bchazzy

4 жыл бұрын

@Alec Alberti wow thank you so much for that information!! I just wann copy and save it somewhere and have you delete it. LOL I agree with your comment & the 1st brother's commented-on polygyny and monogamous relationships. Yes times are getting really hard and if these women won't sit down somewhere and humble themselves they will be left out in the dark unprotected and uncovered when true judgment rains down upon this Earth. Most of them are so busy chasing a college education as if that's going to be some sort of protection for them. They also act as if the college degree is going to assure them success in this world. Such a sad day and time we're living in indeed! May the Most High bless you for that information brother🙏🏽

@bchazzy

4 жыл бұрын

@Alec Alberti and by the way with the comment you deleted I started to read it before I left work but I didn't finish. You didn't sound crazy at all. The people that look at us like we are crazy and we're so different we can look right back at them and see that they're just like everybody else. What a shame

Does it mean polygamy is a sin ?? Cause I have never seen a scripture that says Polygamy is a sin.

@zod4320

4 жыл бұрын

Ramoroka Ntane Thats because there is no such scripture. God made rules in the Old Testament for how to be a good polygamist. God would not make rules allowing sin. Modern thinking on this simply doesn’t want to accept what the Bible actually says

@ramorokantane3758

4 жыл бұрын

Lewis Seitz First time in my life I had someone speaks the truth about this subject......Thanks Lewis

@patmelton43

4 жыл бұрын

Polygamy is a sin -- it is called adultery.

@rkirkpatrick01

4 жыл бұрын

@@patmelton43 "Pat Melton • 17 hours ago Polygamy is a sin -- it is called adultery." Which scripture is that?

@patmelton43

4 жыл бұрын

@@rkirkpatrick01 I have never seen a scripture supporting polygamy. God performed the first marriage and the first man Adam and the first woman Eve. God did not make Adam and five Eves. But of course you have every right to follow Satan into hell. Maybe your bible is the Koran!!

This message is so awesome!

Well put. I like that even though morality and faith should go hand in hand, he mentioned how the two are not the same thing.

@toughbiblepassages9082

Жыл бұрын

They aren’t the same thing, but the Bible DOES actually say that David is a model man of moral character, not just of faith

What wisdom, glory to God! Thank God for this explanation

I believe Job was referenced as a man of morals in the O.T.

@lastunctives2095

4 жыл бұрын

Well almost remember he was a slave owner .

@HostileLemons

3 жыл бұрын

@@lastunctives2095 slavery dosent necessarily mean beating and poor treatment. It just means unpaid labour

@tomkingg

3 жыл бұрын

@@HostileLemons Like this generations internships. Unpaid intern = Slave

@linaawadallaiskander7594

3 жыл бұрын

Read well please because he allows polygamy actually this video is not saying the truth. But when David took another man's wife God said " if you wanted another wife I would have given it to you". He didn't say you have enough wives u don't need any more. But I do agree God's plan was 1 wife. 23 Do you think that God changed this commandment about polygamy in the old testament which shows that God allowed polygamy :Exo 21:10 NHEB-YHWH If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marital rights. Because he did with some commandments in the new testament. Here they are: Actually I believe that this was written in Chapter John, Jesus says he is changing some laws in the bible. And he mentioned because the people in the old testament were very evil he allowed them to do what they want and he says now it is different. One of the examples is God allowing divorce when a man gives certain amount of money to the woman who married her whether from fornication, rape, marriage ceremony. So, the God in the old Testament allowed divorce. Also, there were three ways that people got married in the old Testament. One was sex (becoming one flesh), second rape (google sex in marriage and divorce bible verses in the old testament), third was marriage ceremony. Anyone who committed any of them was considered married according to God's commandments in the old testament. In the new testament when God was speaking to the women (at the water) who was having sex with many men, God reveals that she is not married (highlight that God considered her not married it is not a word mentioned in the bible but the story concludes that) and she is sinning (fornication). (which is opposite from the old testament as I mentioned). So, As you see The Bible changed some of the commandment from the old testament to the new testament. Lastly, God himself says he came to finish (perfect) the testimony and fulfill the prophecies. (Perfecting his biblical book, changing some of his commandment as you see from what is mentioned above). There is nothing wrong with God changing his laws in Bible as he is fulfilling the law (which means making it perfect, and that means to perfect something you can change it. Which is what Jesus did). This is something most Christians miss.

Wow, this has to be one of the best answer to not only the polygamy subject but also well describing what the Old Testament is! How often people takes the Old Testament as an image or direct representation of God, instead of seeing that it is history, and the relationship between God and his people. The Bible does not contradict itself and God is, was and will always be the same. Thank you for this video, and glory to God. Maybe "What is the Old Testament" would be a good addition to the title.

@husseinamaz6842

2 жыл бұрын

read my comment

@keemot1767

Жыл бұрын

I keep telling people this and they keep trying to contradict God's character. I pray that God will give them understanding so that they know that He loves us all so much that He gave His only begotten son to pay the wages of sin: death.

@danielburton2927

Жыл бұрын

“If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be her's that was hated: then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: but he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭21:15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬ God allows you to have mutiple wives . 1 Joash was seven years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Zibiah of Beer-sheba. 2 And Joash did that which was right in the sight of the LORD all the days of Jehoiada the priest. 3 And Jehoiada took for him two wives; and he begat sons and daughters. (‭‭2 Chronicles‬ ‭24‬‬:‭1-3‬ KJV) Joash Pleased God and he had 2 wives . 29 And Jerubbaal the son of Joash went and dwelt in his own house. 30 And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives. 31 And his concubine that was in Shechem, she also bare him a son, whose name he called Abimelech. 32 And Gideon the son of Joash died in a good old age, and was buried in the sepulchre of Joash his father, in Ophrah of the Abi-ezrites. (‭‭Judges‬ ‭8‬‬:‭29-32‬ KJV) Gideon was a Judge of Israel and he had mutiple wives and 70 sons and he pleased God .

@RandommomfromOntario

Жыл бұрын

@danielburton2927 how many wives do you have Daniel? 😅

@danielburton2927

Жыл бұрын

@@RandommomfromOntario I have one But i will not allow anyone to Lie on God and say he said something when the bible clearly states you can marry 2 women. But there’s way more that’s Goes into it than just having 2 wives . The Man is the head and his head has to be God or you will be Leading yourself and whoever you marry down a dangerous path . It definitely is not easy and everyone is not going to be able to do it because you have to be committed because you have to properly take care of both , you cannot Diminish Your first wife to take another one or vice versa. i am more thank happy to send scriptures or answer Any question that God had equipped me with the answers to, and i send Bible for anything i charge to God .

I've always taken issue with the churches modern day stance on polygamy. I'll break it down in the same order that the video did: First he addresses the verse Genesis 2:24, which is the ONLY verse that the church uses to reference polygamy or condone it. Genesis 2:24 was in the context of the hierarchy between man and woman, and not in the context of multiple wives. But even if it was in reference to multiple wives, the examples we have in the bible (Jacob, Leah and Rachel) would still follow this logic. Jacob married Leah, they had a separate relationship. Then he married Rachel, completely separately. 2 separate marriages, both between 1 man and 1 woman. I think using this verse as a condemnation against polygamy is a weak interpretation and/or a stretch. He then goes to to say how a covenant is supposed to be like a marriage between two parties. But the first example of a covenant he gives is between Adam, Eve and God. 3 in that party. Another really really weak usage of the text to support his case. He then starts to talk about Jacob and how he had two wives and how that was an example of a bad relationship. BUT it was not a bad relationship because of polygamy. In fact, I believe the bible does a good job of explaining the issue with the relationship: Genesis 29:30, "Jacob made love to Rachel also, and his love for Rachel was greater then his love for Leah". Then the next 6 o 7 verses goes on to detail how Leah kept having kids and thinking that "finally Jacob will love me". It had nothing to do with multiple wives, it was an example of how Jacob failed as a husband, AND pitted his wives against eachother. NEXT he addresses David and Bathsheba. There again, the issue was not that David had multiple wives, it was that he took Uriah's wife and killed him. In the verse he used: 2 Samuel 12, was the rebuke on the rich man for being rich? (having many wives) or was the rebuke on the rich man taking (stealing) from the poor man who had 1 sheep (1 wive). Another really poor reading of the text, in my opinion. Last but not least, King Solomon. The issue again was not multiple wives or polygamy. The issue was that he married "many foreign woman" and [1 Kings 11]: "all of them from nations that the Lord had ordered the Israelis, "You are not to associate with them and they are not to associate with you, because they will most certainly turn your affections away to follow their gods". Again, Gods issue (at least the way it reads in the Bible) was not with the multiple wives, it was with the fact they were from foreign lands and worshiped foreign gods. I'm always open to being corrected, I've just never seen a good Biblically based argument against it. It was not in the original 10 commandments, nore was it really addressed in the new testament, and it SEEMS like there was plenty of opportunity to address it directly if that was something God wanted to do.

Can a man be unmoral and still have great faith? I always assumed the two were correlated, how can you trust God in all things but not trust his words to be moral?

@rosewildbill6368

3 жыл бұрын

...you are correct, I mean the Old Testament saints were not "moral" is a weird thing to say ...and incorrect but I guess he can say whatever he wants...

@danelobe2524

3 жыл бұрын

Because our faith is not baced on our morals, or the obeying of morals.

@happyforever1528

2 жыл бұрын

No ! but he can still have faith but it won't be in the God of the Bible !.

@rebeccacampbell585

2 жыл бұрын

@Janaina Ribeiro faith is a belief. Morals are how you act. He explained it well with the story of king Solomon. He basically said one thing, probably truly believed what he said, but then did something different anyway. Had the faith but not the morals. Today people always want to either 1. Trust in others 2. Trust in themselves. Rarely will they ever Trust in God and that's all God has ever really asked of all of us.

@peaceblessings4512

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not about morals Our obedience to God and his word is what matters Gods law regulates polygyny, but never condemns or prohibits it - Exodus 21:10 Jesus did not come to do away with the law or prophets...until heaven and earth pass. Look outside our window, heaven and earth are still here Eating pork is a sin, not keeping Sabbath or Feast days like Passover are sins, homosexuality, not returning lost property...

Cause see all you doing going off how you feel in your heart John 7:38 reads he that believeth on me as the scriptures had said not how you feel so like I said prove your claim with scripture show me that the laws are done away with and show me in the Bible where it say having 2 wives is a sin

@abrahamsie5319

4 жыл бұрын

Read 1Corinthians7 and 2Corinthians 11 you will find your answers

Great explanation!

Jacob with 4 wives built the 12 tribes, the foundation of Israel. Polygamy was allowed because it had a place an environment of low life-expectancy and a host of other reasons. Having children was a deadly business back then and if you didn't have a lot, survival was deadly also. For example, If we don't solve the housing crisis, people will return to this model just to afford housing. It's a lot of work, so there is a reason- bishop minister pastor deacon- are required to have one wife. It's really not that difficult to grasp. This is a hint why they aren't condemned.

Love this videos! Thank you! Maybe for 2020, have them translated or done by Spanish speaking professors, please!

But did not God tell David if you had asked me for another woman, I would have given it to you?

@johnssmith4005

3 жыл бұрын

God also gave Saul's WIVES to David even tho he said that a king should NOT multiply wives that is the real question that should be answered when it comes to is polygamy right or not

@ingoditrust3945

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnssmith4005 I believe under this new covenant with Jesus Christ it is a sin.

He says the Bible is showing us that polygamy is not “ideal” and and may cause chaos. But truth be told, in that same breathe we have to say neither was monogamy “ideal” because it also contains it’s sets of complications and “chaos”.

In many way a good answer, but it did not address the heart of the matter: why is polygamy *never* condemned as a sin in OT if it was a sin?

@davidobarr2317

2 жыл бұрын

Because clearly it isn't a sin.

@andrejuthe

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidobarr2317 Yes, I believe your are right, it was permitted during this time, it is not the ideal, but it was the only social structure that could provide a system of social security.

You didn't answer the question. God indeed allowed man have many wives, not explicity, but, he blessed those same man that had two wives, blessed their sons, protected hagar. I'm not telling that he encourage more than one wife, i'm telling that he allowed, because he didnt punish or said anything to any man that had more than 1 wife, if was a sin that should be repented, he didnt condemn anybody because of this.

@davidlegkodukh6969

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, but he also explicitly said that these men that has more wives had them out of self importance and to have more power. While God wasn't against the idea in the old testament, it gave more power to Satan as he could exploit the man even more.

@camilablw

4 жыл бұрын

He absolutely answered the question. Watch it again and you'll see.

@marcusbrown592

4 жыл бұрын

One wife is a Roman concept that they inject into the Judaic religion we now call Christianity

@q.t.gamingfamily

4 жыл бұрын

He blesses the sinner. He doesn't want any of us to perish which is why he repeatedly renewed the covenant.

@davidlegkodukh6969

4 жыл бұрын

@SICARII PHILADELPHIA It's in the old testament? You can read of Solomon and his wives, they were idol worshippers and he had many sons of which were sinners and tried to kill him. Read the book of Solomon, Don't embarrass yourself.🤦

Nowhere in the Bible does God condemns polygamy, not even remotely. It's even funny how the writer comments that God was not pleased with what David did with the husband of Bathsheba. Sounds like God got angry with David but couldn't do anything. You can only twist and turn the text, like someone already mentioned, to try and make it sound like it is prohibited but that is weak non-valid argument.

@samantharios6900

4 жыл бұрын

if im correct God did do something.The son Bathsheba bore to David died and caused both David and Bathsheba heartache .seems to me like he was really displeased with David.And u men wanna make such a big fuss about having many wives when we are all suppose to try our best to be like Jesus aren't we.Did u see Jesus with a wife at all let alone many wives?Also jesus says if u are able to be solibent and single to do so but if u know u are gonna give in to your lusts get married.so do u honestly believe u are being like Jesus or pleasing god by having more than one wife.why do u think God has allowed our nation to have such a strict rule about marriage and managomy.God controls law and looks like God does not want polygomy to be the law of the land.So get u one wife and focus on the Lord and love her and treat her right.And stop tryna fight to satisfy your sexual desires tryna have all these wives,just a big distraction from God and very hurtful yo your wife.Men are so selfish its just ridiculous most do have hardned hearts n act like dogs very sad.

@CrniStevan

4 жыл бұрын

@@samantharios6900 this is too many presuppositions. I have one wife and I don't want more wife's. But let me reply to the first part of your comment. God struck the innocent child. Would you do the same if you were God? If God didn't like what David did - why did he let that relationship go on and incarnate himself through exactly that bloodline?

God is Good .A true father loving us thru our up and downs .Mistakes , Mistreatment of things Thank you Lord .We Got work to for him.Cause He always for us .

Very satisfying explanation thank you so much

Very unsatisfying answer to the question... 5:26 - OT saints "never held up as moral examples, but only as examples of faith"? Seems a false distinction to me. How exactly does a hero of faith (Heb 11) live an IMmoral life? That seems a false distinction between "faith" and "acts of faith", or between faith and obedience (morals, ethics), both of which the OT saints abound in and for which are held up as examples in the NT. Obedience is faith. The saints were faith heroes in Heb 11 because of what they DID. Better question than "Why did God allow" (which invites ambiguity) would be "Is polygamy sinful according to the Bible?" There's no law against it in either "Testament". Virtually every OT saint explicitly practiced it (and those that aren't explicitly shown to do so probably did so. As a rule, women are only mentioned in the Bible if they're relevant to the narrative. Thus there may have been more wives than are explicitly identified). God never condemned anyone for it. And God entered into covenant - it would appear - with a bunch of guys that were almost all, to a man, polygamists. If it was egregious to God (i.e. if God considered it adultery, a violation of the 7th commandment AND a capital offense), one has to wonder at his covenant making with Abraham, Jacob, David, not to mention his use of others (Gideon, Solomon). I personally think Moses had multiple wives. Zipporah was Midianite (of Abraham through Keturah; of the line of Shem). The wife he was accused of taking (by Miriam and Aaron) was Cushite (i.e. of Ham's line). That would make two wives at least (in addition to any not mentioned in the narrative). I would also speculate that the multiple different names for his father in law (Jethro, Reuel, Hobab) did not all refer to the same individual. Seems a hard argument to make (against polygamy). But for most Christians, one generally believes something is wrong if one personally think it's wrong, irrespective of what the Bible says about it. In this case, the evidence against polygamy is clearly lacking, but that doesn't keep most Christians from believing it's the equivalent of adultery.

@rkirkpatrick01

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's hard to abstract faith from faithfulness. If these men were in fact faithless to God it seems unlikely they would also be heroes of the faith.

@derekthompson5731

4 жыл бұрын

I would also add, as a preemptive strike, that arguments in favor of polygamy do not constitute the next phase of sexual deviancy by a backsliding nation, as it frequently bemoaned by conservative press (e.g. polyamory). This cannot be equated to free, no strings attached, non-paternalistic sexual revolution. What we see in the Bible is paternalistic to the hilt, was geared toward nation/tribe building, involved childbearing as an imperative, and marital responsibility. This was not "I'm free to roam and hookup with whomever (or whatever) I want" as is the cultural bent today.

@RED-WEAPON

3 жыл бұрын

@@derekthompson5731 You're incredibly articulate, and have the vocabulary of a well-spoken lawyer. Interesting.

@markwilding3828

3 жыл бұрын

You ask an important question... I think the deification of the biblical saints is at the root of many crisis' of faith. They had weaknesses and sin just like us, they were human, not gods. Shouldn't we be glad that God chooses to demonstrate that we can be right in his eyes with all our flaws?

@AquaCarb

3 жыл бұрын

Im still trying figure out how to get a camel through the eye of a needle. Now it doesn't say what size the needle has to be.

Yet there was the law of Levirate where someone married his brother's widow.

@LanLe-rz4lm

3 жыл бұрын

That was just one among several laws about polygny.

@heraclito3114

3 жыл бұрын

@@LanLe-rz4lm But it proves that not only polygamy was allowed but in some cases it was promoted. There's a story about it in the Genesis 38 (Tamara and Judah).

@LanLe-rz4lm

3 жыл бұрын

​@@heraclito3114 More like commanded in some cases & regulated altogether, so it's done right to benefit all parties involved, but Yessirr! Polgyny - one man, multiple women.

@amsterdamG2G

3 жыл бұрын

@@heraclito3114 promoted? i don't see how polygamy is " promoted " in that story.

@heraclito3114

3 жыл бұрын

@@amsterdamG2G You made men to marry their brothers' widow in addition to their own wives.

Thank you Sir. I have learnt a lot. Question is, what is the difference between morality and faith? What influence does faith have on morality?

Mt 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.

@bensonmuzilikazi2729

2 жыл бұрын

Correct

@bensonmuzilikazi2729

2 жыл бұрын

They don't really understand the bible.

I've been watching this guy lately. He's a good teacher. I remember the Mormons in Utah telling me that God allowed it in the old testament. I used to say they're sinners!! Thank You Jesus!!

@hosoiarchives4858

3 жыл бұрын

God did allow it. No way around it. Numerous prophets were polygamous

@LanLe-rz4lm

3 жыл бұрын

@@hosoiarchives4858 God allowed it because he LIKED it; the Law both Commands & Regulates polygny.

@marriageofthelambassemblie1693

3 жыл бұрын

Polygyny never is referred to as sin. Sin is transgressing Gods law 1 John 3:4

@rebeccacampbell585

2 жыл бұрын

@@hosoiarchives4858 God allows agency. Doesn't mean they did the right thing or it bore good fruits. It didn't. Utah is messed up and the whole church is falling apart.

@hosoiarchives4858

2 жыл бұрын

@@rebeccacampbell585 that’s your opinion