A woman's bare face does NOT look tired. I hate that.

@user-wi2vn7cu4w

3 жыл бұрын

My eye's bags are too reviling and i do really permanently tired.

@ekunina5410

3 жыл бұрын

IKR!? 😳

@cyanjackson7689

3 жыл бұрын

YES it's just assumed as if men don't have eye bags as well... It's just a normal face. This needs to be normalized

@thetiredworm2100

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyanjackson7689 Thing you need to take into account is that -compared- to people’s faces with make up (wether the person with make up on is a boy or a girl) people look more tired or even ill, its not that people don’t think men don’t have eye bags, it’s that when you continuously cover up all the things on your face with things that “perfect” your face and cover things like pale lips, the uneven colors on your face, the eye bags under the eyes, etc. with make up and you show how you look with make up all the time, then suddenly don’t, people are naturally going to think you look different, maybe even sick, if you rarely ever wore make up, people wouldn’t think that. The thing you need to realize is that the face of men and women naturally looks entirely normal, it’s in reality not a tired look or a sick look, but when you put on and wear make up on a daily basis, you are making that what everyone sees on average basis, your making that your ‘normal’ look. When you cover up those normal “imperfections” and almost always show yourself with very even skin (by using foundation) and lips that are pinker then your natural lip color (using lipstick) and cheeks pinker then your normal cheeks (using blush)and so on, people are going to see that as how you normally look, if you suddenly don’t wear your make up and show up with dark circles, paler lips then what your lips usually look like and paler cheeks then your cheeks with make up, it’s no surprise some wonder if your feeling unwell.

@Sara-vj3md

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god THANK YOU! I had a coworker say that to me, “Ugh Sara you look EXHAUSTED!” Thanks for telling me I look like crap 👍🏼 And when people say it to new mothers... how awful.

I wore makeup everyday to school, and then one day when I didn't, I got called out by one of my teachers saying 'I looked seriously ill'. That's stuck with me for years, because it made me feel so self-conscious about my actual face...

@samanthajerger455

3 жыл бұрын

I've gotten the same response...it is a terrible feeling.

@victoriarobertson266

3 жыл бұрын

I got called out for this by my first manager at a retail store. I was told I didn't look happy and they suggested I wear some makeup. I wore it, I just didn't wear it everyday. That was almost 10 years ago and I still think about what he said to me. The thing is, you don't owe it to anyone to wear makeup to cover yourself to make them more comfortable. You don't need to wear it to detract from any of your uniqueness, or what society decides is a flaw. It's entirely on them, how they desire to see people. It's not your responsibility to please others like that. I like makeup. I definitely don't do it as much as I used to. I'm okay leaving the house without it. But I still like to play with it now and then. The difference now is that I don't wear it to make other people more comfortable while looking at me. That's the only big change I've realized in the last few years. And somedays that's easier to acknowledge than other days. I shouldn't have to wear makeup for the sole purpose of hiding what I think people will judge me on. I choose to be judged on my bare face, because *that is me.*

@Vaghiay

3 жыл бұрын

Same. I used to wear makeup to school almost everyday and when I didn't people instantly thought I looked sick. It took me YEARS to feel comfortable with my bare face.

@courtneyframe7506

3 жыл бұрын

Happened to me many times throughout school and any job or work i had, the few days i didnt have time or chose not to wear any makeup i was told i look very sick or tired or "whats wrong with you" every time there was always comments made. And ive been reprimanded by bosses for not looking nice enough to serve or help customers. Which is disgusting because it shouldn't matter what my natural face looks like when im more than qualified.

@iAmMadeOfSoup

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll be 18 in 5 days and I’ve never really worn it. Only eyeliner by my mom when younger

At least you were not wearing concealer. I was once asked if I was tired while I was wearing a full face of makeup lol

@75sol21

3 жыл бұрын

Omg in 7th grade this rude guy came up to me and asked if I was wearing make up. I wasn’t, and I told him that, and he legit said “oh, your skin just looks really cakey.” Like WTF I HAD DRY SKIN NO NEED TO POINT IT OUT TO THE ENTIRE CLASS

@BeautyBeatdown

3 жыл бұрын

OMG Seriously! I hadn't worn makeup in legit three months, and the one mother fucking day I decided to do an eyelook for work (nothing else, because masks...) I had not one but TWO different people tell me I looked tired. No one had done that to me the entire time I hadn't worn any. Trying to not let it be a confidence killer but damn

@CandyChan321

3 жыл бұрын

I think people ask if you're tired because they assume you're trying to hide your tiredness, the dark circle or the red puffy eyes or paler skin.

@rchcc122

3 жыл бұрын

@@CandyChan321 I kind of want to think people are better. Maybe if someone asks if you're tired they're doing it out of concern, because you might have something going on that you need help with. It could come from a place of worry for you.

@CandyChan321

3 жыл бұрын

@@rchcc122 Humans are simple creatures. You're looking too far into it. A lot of people use makeup to hide dark circles or give more color to their face. There's a lot of people that think you do makeup to hide what's underneath. I'm pretty sure they think they're tired for the simple fact that they went from wearing no makeup to having nearly a full face so it's gonna spark the curiousity of it.

Ben seems to be simplifying this a bit. Like, "maybe when you start a new job don't look too different" - Well, knowing women who are more attractive are also judged as more competent and more successful makes things a bit more complicated. It would be great if we weren't judged on our looks in our career, but we are. But, of course, if we wear too much makeup, we're judged too. It's a tough thing for women.

@melanieg.9092

3 жыл бұрын

thank you for mentioning this!

@lawyernyc01

3 жыл бұрын

All attractive people are benefitted professionally by being attractive. Of any gender.

@dani_rose

3 жыл бұрын

A couple years ago, I had an interview at a clothing store. I did a little bit of makeup for the interview to not look so dead. The interviewer straight up told me she expects her employees to do their makeup everyday like how they showed up for the interview. So if someone came in with a full face of makeup, she expected them to come in every shift a full face. If they came in with no makeup, she expected no makeup every shift. That sat with me wrong. She wanted to hire me, but I turned it down after hearing that. I like wearing makeup, but I don't like doing my makeup everyday.

@fridawarnemyr6025

3 жыл бұрын

@@dani_rose The heck?? Why would she expect that from all employees? That makes no sense to me, especially in a clothing store.

@DaniLedesma16

3 жыл бұрын

@@dani_rose That's so shitty to read. Personally, I don't care how the employee looks, specially in retail??? I came for the clothes not to look other people's faces, damn.

Since half my face is now covered by a mask, I don't bother anymore.

@Smaugette

3 жыл бұрын

I know, I've put on mascara maybe 3 times since this cv-19 started.

@sarahlabbe9779

3 жыл бұрын

I wear all the funky lip colors in my very serious job, it's like being undercover. Blacks and blues, neon greens... it's great

@littleboo2002

3 жыл бұрын

It's actually really crazy when I see people wearing full makeup, but wearing a mask. I work at a medical clinic and I screen everyone that comes in. You can see on the mask the makeup rubbing off, and it's like why are you wasting your time putting on makeup?

@slytheringingerwitch

3 жыл бұрын

@@littleboo2002 Totally agree. I know I shouldn't feel this as a benefit but I feel free from the trappings of cosmetics.

@Lynartz

3 жыл бұрын

I only do my brows now... thats it! Haha

i worked in a corporate office and didn't wear makeup one day... also I wore tennis shoes on this day because honestly i did full makeup, hair, suit and heels everyday for a year and I was soo tired of it. I was told I look "sick", "tired", asked if I needed to go home! I also had an account manager ask me to wear heels again because the tennis shoes that were comfortable for me "didn't fit the look" I quit a week later.

@DaniLedesma16

3 жыл бұрын

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@embarrassedcap

3 жыл бұрын

I’m willing to bet the manager was a guy who always wore comfortable shoes?

@claraB1016

3 жыл бұрын

Love that you quit, hopefully you found somewhere better♡

@stargirl-9000

3 жыл бұрын

So happy you quit. That’s so sexist and discriminatory. Women should be able to wear what they want at work as long as it’s smart. Heels ≠ presentable

I definitely think the whole "you look tired" after suddenly stopping wearing makeup is just because your face looks different without it. If you wear concealer and eye mascara or whatever to look "awake" then that's what the people around you think you look like normally. They might not even realize you're wearing makeup in the first place. Makeup is really overwhelming to me so I've never worn it and I'm in a similar boat as Ben. The people who see me on a day to day basis know I didn't get sleep because I actually look tired, not because I changed one thing

@miathemuse653

3 жыл бұрын

Omg once, the ONE time I didn't wear makeup to school people told me I looked tired and I got really self-conscious, but your perspective helps with that experience thank you

@bloodyraven8201

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve never really worn makeup it’s just never been interesting to me and I’m only starting it now, graduating college, to up my cosplay game. I’ve never in my life been asked if I was tired when I wasn’t like half asleep in class. I genuinely cannot tell half the time if someone is wearing really natural looking make up or not. So if someone around me wore it all the time then suddenly didn’t and it changed how their face looked I would probably be concerned too since they just don’t look like how I’m used to them looking. Not saying they look good or bad with or without the makeup just different then how I’m used to

@burntblueberrywaffles

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a thing I always noticed. As much as I understand how fun makeup can be, I feel you’re trapping yourself by wearing it everyday because then the one time you don’t you “look awful”

@lucia_13_

3 жыл бұрын

yeah ive never used make up and ive never received a comment about my face ksjs but i wish people would not make any comments and let others be

@katrabbit

3 жыл бұрын

I've gotten my fair share of "you look tired" and "are you sick?" because I never wear makeup. But I guess from my perspective that always sounds like the person is maybe ignorant or not thinking correctly in that moment, and that's a them problem, not for me to worry about.

That last point: employers should judge skill and performance, not makeup. Yes can you please explain that to my former employer who told me I could only be a waitress if I wore more makeup to “look nicer to customers”?!

@Lucia-yc9zj

3 жыл бұрын

@@piper8945 I could understand more if it were an upscale restaurant, but a run down restaurant in the middle of nowhere where the waitresses only wear jeans and a t shirt with the restaurant's name on it? Idk. It just felt rude to me because the only difference between me and them was I don't wear makeup

@Zeldagirlartist

3 жыл бұрын

@Kristal Power your comment kinda contradicts itself. The equivalent of women having to wear makeup for work for men is them keeping a clean face and shaving or not growing their hair long. It really does send a message on how you look at work especially when you’re dealing with the public. It’s all about looking nice and clean

@Zeldagirlartist

3 жыл бұрын

@Kristal Power actually no it’s also a requirement for men in a lot of higher up positions where they need to look good and shaved. When girls don’t wear makeup they usually look tired, sick, or just uninterested altogether so I get why it’s a requirement when you have to deal with customers or clients. It really is the same thing. I could complain that women have it easy because they can wear their hair long and men can’t and that isn’t fair which would be like what you’re trying to argue. It’s all the same. Men shaving is the equivalent to makeup, and it’s not like you’re being asked to put a full face of makeup on either.

@MondayMorningMist

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zeldagirlartist "When girls don’t wear makeup they usually look tired, sick, or just uninterested altogether " well not really, Cristine makes a point to this around 4:50 in the video. Its not that literally all female humans look more tired or sick without makeup. It's that if a certain girl wears make up a lot, people get used to seeing her with makeup on so she looks "tired" or "sick" to them if she's bare-faced. If that particular girl never wore makeup, people would likely get used to her looking that way, and would no longer think she looks tired or sick. However, a lot of people are in society are used to women in general, wearing makeup, which is why these requirements get pushed onto women who don't really want to wear it. Also no, I feel like saying that makeup and beards are the same is drawing a false equivalency. Let me give an example. In the military, everyone must look clean tidy and proper. Do you see makeup being a requirement there for women, despite professionalism being a requirement there? No, because makeup is not necessary for the job, and military women still look professional and groomed without makeup. You don't hear people saying that military women are looking tired, sick or uninterested. Men keeping their beards shaved in the military is more equivalent to women (who have long hair) having to keep their long hair in tight buns, due to the safety hazard issue that Kristal Power already mentioned. I understand your point about workplace dress code and grooming requirements making sense for jobs where you need to deal with customers, but I still disagree with you that "it's all the same," since that's a hyperbolic, widely broad generalization that glosses over relevant details.

@Zeldagirlartist

3 жыл бұрын

@@MondayMorningMist when I say “all the same” I say that meaning that these types of things all fall into the same category of looking professional and clean. Those of course are going to be applied differently to different jobs but they are all part of the same idea, which like I said is keeping clean and looking professional. They may not all apply at once for a specific job but in essence yes they are the same Also the idea of girls looking sick or tired when they don’t wear makeup is exactly what you said: it’s because we are used to girls wearing makeup so somebody not wearing makeup is gonna look tired or sick. That’s just the expectation of society so that is why it is expected in many professional settings. Dark circles are usually a problem with people and especially when girls aren’t covering them up then it causes them to look tired or sick. That’s just a body issue

I purposefully do not wear makeup when I know I am going to meet new people, to avoid getting comments about looking tired or unwell down the road when I don't happen to be wearing makeup

@Bluey306

3 жыл бұрын

that's what i always thought: i don't want people to be surprised by my actual face when, one day, i choose not to wear it or we're in a situation where i'm not wearing it.

@karimecolettadominguez

3 жыл бұрын

me too

@QuietlyCurious

3 жыл бұрын

Same. My mom taught me that as an adolescent. She said, 'For a regular workday, look simple. Save the makeup & hair for the office party.' In other words, don't depend on makeup to look baseline 'good'.

I read an article about 15years ago that cited evidence that women who wore make-up to work earned, on average, 20 % more than women who didn't. I had a similar experience to Cristine. I used to wear a full face of make up every day to work, and one day i just stopped. People were forever making comments to me, for months afterwards. I thought it was interesting.

@amazingabby25

3 жыл бұрын

My mom didn’t wear make up one day, and her boss sent her home sick

@itsacarolbthing5221

3 жыл бұрын

@@amazingabby25 I don't know whether I'm amused or appalled!

@amazingabby25

3 жыл бұрын

Carol B 1412 my mom felt a bit both lol

@jc_80

3 жыл бұрын

@@amazingabby25 think I might start wearing makeup if it means you can get a day off when you don’t 😄

@brightbite

2 жыл бұрын

Where are these magical places where women earn more when they wear makeup?? Not in Vermont! Here, there literally are old folks who insist that you must be a street walker if you so much as wear high heels or smoky eye makeup! So if you wear makeup to work, chances are your boss will tell you to remove it because it is scaring away customers!

Men don't wear make up (generally although love the ones who do) so why do women feel this need to make themselves look 'better' with it? I don't see Ben 'opening up his eyes' with mascara.

@gleegleek4eva

3 жыл бұрын

Men in the public eye (actors, singers, performers, etc.) do on a regular basis. Albiet more minimal. I think you're also forgetting that for a lot of women makeup is like an extension of their outfit. It's something that conveys a certain look or 'vibe' they're going for. Obviously no girl is putting on rainbow gradient eyeshadow or putting pink tinted glitter on their cheeks to "enhance their natural beauty". And with makeup brands picking up on this and releasing more bright and costume-y and themed products it is far from the form of 'natural enchancement' it used to be. However I'm mainly speaking about the younger generation here in America. I know in the East/ Asia and other countires mainstream makeup still usually takes on a more faux natural approach.

Not a direct comment on anything you said in this clip, more of a thought I have whenever I witness a discussion about women's relationship to makeup. No doubt, a lot of women and men wear makeup as a form of self expression, and I think it can be a beautiful and powerful artform, but often I feel like this argument is used to ignore the fact that there is a lot of pressure for women to wear makeup. I think it's important to acknowledge that even though makeup can be a form of self expression, we are influenced by a society that tells us we don't look quite right if we decide to go makeup-free. Our decisons aren't made in a vacuum, and it doesn't have to be either "it's my personal artform" or "societal pressure made me do it". I think that in many cases it's a combination of the two.

@melanieg.9092

3 жыл бұрын

agree!

@GM-iq3xn

3 жыл бұрын

I actually LOVE LOVE LOVE this analogy. I think that was maybe a little part of it for me, but as you mentioned, in the end it mostly came down to it being a form of self expression for me. But yeah, I agree with you on this analysis of makeup wearing. I definitely think that most women are judged for not wearing makeup or judged based on how they look if they normally wear makeup and don’t a certain day. Thank you for bringing attention to this.

I don't wear makeup myself just chapstick. Mainly because I suck at it and have no interest in practising. There are far too many steps!

@piper8945

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you I am the same way I also dont like how it makes my face feel

@ILikeBirds

3 жыл бұрын

@@piper8945 yeah. It makes my skin feel crusty

@erinkate207

3 жыл бұрын

@@ILikeBirds this may entirely be my own bias but if I’m wearing a tinted moisturiser and some concealer (+ powders) I really can’t even tell I’m wearing anything. I could just be used to it but it may be a product thing??? :)

@ILikeBirds

3 жыл бұрын

@@erinkate207 yeah but I just put on moisturizer and some chapstick which tends to do fine

@evakumar5766

3 жыл бұрын

I'm the same. Except for lipstick I don't wear anything on my face

To the last point, we should also remember that the beauty bias (and various other biases that tend to run parallel to this) is still very real. Especially for women in the context of make-up. So trying to not look your absolute best at a job interview or first day may very well backfire. I actually had a supervisor (we are in the medical field) who suggested that I need to wear makeup for the good of patients/clients. They even said it would uplift them, not necessarily me. I had stopped wearing makeup due to some of my chronic illnesses, disability and chronic pain. It was causing significant issues for me. Also, I noticed I would have less patients/clients sexualizing me in their many different ways than when I would wear makeup.

it makes me so, so sad when i see young children wearing full faces of makeup because they think they look ugly without it

@GM-iq3xn

3 жыл бұрын

If that’s the case for teenagers and young children, yes, that is very sad. For most people, we just like to wear it because it’s fun and we get to be creative with it. For me, it’s something fun, and it enhances my beauty which I love. So I hope it makes you a little happier to know that most of us aren’t wearing it because we think we’re ugly without it ❤️

@withered_angel992

3 жыл бұрын

I saw more children wearing make-up cause they think it makes them look cool rather then they think they are ugly. But I know there are children or teens who got a case as you described it

@brightbite

2 жыл бұрын

I was that way when I was in my tweens. I thought I looked ugly. Albeit, I had an abusive upbringing, self-centered, shallow parents and in the '80s it was all about having 30 different curling irons and 50 different shades of lipstick. Girls were made to feel ugly if they did not look at least 25 years old by the time they were 10. And it was drilled into your head via magazines and other media that what men and boys thought was The Only Thing That Mattered. I was not ugly, what was going on around me was!

I've worn makeup less than five times in my life simply because I don't care about it, but I do wear glasses and they slightly conceal my (natural) eye bags. Last year a male coworker saw me without glasses and asked me if I was OK, I was honestly surprised and felt a bit annoyed because he continued insinuating that I was definitely not OK because I guess to him I looked bad lol anyways thankfully a female coworker helped me out and said "that's how women look without makeup, get used to it".

@peanutbutter4697

3 жыл бұрын

I have had similar a experience! People sometimes tell me I look young for my age (mostly because I'm short and have like no cheekbones) but as soon as they see me without my glasses they literally recoil. 🙄

@zara.1212

3 жыл бұрын

that’s awful! glad she helped

@simplesimply3753

3 жыл бұрын

@@peanutbutter4697 My friend use to wear glasses all the time. She has pretty bad eyesight so her prescription is strong. When she wears her glasses her eyes to the viewer look much bigger then they really are. So when she doesn’t wear them it doesn’t feel natural to the viewer, ie me. When people mention it, they might not always mean it negatively but just that they aren’t use to the face they seen all the time change.

@peanutbutter4697

3 жыл бұрын

@@simplesimply3753 That's definitely true! I do think I magnify comments and reactions regarding this because of my own insecurity, but I also subjectively acknowledge my eye bags are pretty bad. No big deal though, it's not my job to please stranger's eyeballs hehe. My prescription is also pretty strong but they make my eyes seem smaller instead :3

@Emily_Bondevik_Official

3 жыл бұрын

I look like a teen mom without atleast eyeliner

Please look into auto immune stuff, I watched your video and I don’t think it’s allergies. I have an auto immune problem and have had similar rashes and immune responses as you

@prettylittleravenna

3 жыл бұрын

Would be helpful if you hinted at what is the condition called, so she can get specialized testing....

@adieminente5185

3 жыл бұрын

@@prettylittleravenna for all auto immune stuff it’s the same test it’s called a ANA test that will tell you if you have any auto immune problem and then from there a doctor would determine what specific testing would be needed based off of symptoms and how high the ANA number is :)

@fridawarnemyr6025

3 жыл бұрын

There's also MCAS which is estimated by mast cell specialists to affect around 15% of the population. Essentially the mast cells fire randomly and without control, causing inflammatory responses such as rashes.

@theartist_harlivi

3 жыл бұрын

@@fridawarnemyr6025 I asked my doctor about this and she ran reg bloods, told me to go buy whatever antihistamines at the chemist and never followed up. she was actually surprised when I had positive results with the antihistamines and still didn't bother any further. I have worn makeup maybe 5-8 times in 3 years, my "allergies" and intolerances to everything just keep getting worse and worse. I even started reacting to the shower. I take the antihistamines every day now, so that's something good...i don't have any doc at all now though.

@fridawarnemyr6025

3 жыл бұрын

@@theartist_harlivi Please look into it further! Positive results with antihistamines towards "technically not allergies" symptoms (as in you're reacting to something that you don't have antibodies for) is one of the main signs for mast cell issues or histmaine intolerance (or both). I've found Beth O'Hara's website very informative on this issue. She's one of the best mast cell experts around and she has these issues herself.

I remember i went so long without wearing makeup that when I did start wearing it again I felt like i was a kid trying to figure out the sorcery that is the mascara.....

@abigailc9322

3 жыл бұрын

honestly i still avoid mascara whenever i can lol

@Killer_Turnip

3 жыл бұрын

I feel that. I don't wear it any more bc of how sweaty I get in the mask, and I nearly poked my eye out trying to apply mascara again after like 5 months 😂

@herzen9857

3 жыл бұрын

The only reason i don't always like mascara is because it kinda sucks to remove though I've got some advice! Curl your eyelashes and use a waterproof mascara to keep the shape (so your lashes don't droop after a few minutes). Wait for it to dry completely and apply a non waterproof mascara for some extra length. (I personally only use the waterproof mascara because my lashes are naturally pretty long.) You can also always look up tutorials on youtube!

Absolutely my thesis: I never wear make up for work but I love to do my make up just because I love to have special moments And that’s why everybody is excited for our company parties because they know I’ll look special again (clothes, jewelry and make up - but never foundation!) and new people won’t recognize me. Not because I’m ugly on my daily base but because I look normal and people don’t think I’m into Beauty and overly woman stuff. It’s all about yourself: never do make up just for other people or because you don’t want to be ashamed. Do make up to make your beautiful features even more beautiful 🤩 because you are! Just live it!!!

I want a boyfriend who talks to me the way he talks to her!!! He is so eloquent and engaging. I love them 🥺

I’m conflicted with my thoughts on make up. It’s fun and you can do some amazing and artistic with it BUT it does contribute to unrealistic beauty standards for women

As an Indian, it was so surprising to know that in the west it is almost a norm to wear a full face of makeup on a daily basis. Yes, we occasionally wear makeup but it never felt like a social norm. My mom has never worn makeup in her life, and yet, she looks so gorgeous and groomed.

"It shouldn't matter what you look like at your job. People should judge you and your employer should judge you based on your skills and your performance, not your make-up." Well said Cristine! More than 2 years ago, I got a new job offer after my (now former) boss didn't want to renew my contract due to "lack of funds". Few weeks before the end of my contract, my former boss asked me about my new job, where is it and whether my next boss (i.e., my current boss) is a male or female boss. I told her that my next boss is a dude. Her first reaction was "no wonder, he hired you because you are pretty". My current boss was so mad when I told him that my former boss said that.

With regards to what Ben is saying, I get where he's coming from about the line between makeup for fun vs necessity being blurry. But - to me at least - how much cross questioning or pressing arises with regards to people who insist that they really DO indeed use makeup for fun and self expression feels a bit suspect, and I kind of perceive that as a resistance to fully accepting the possibility that makeup actually CAN BE a means of artistic expression, outside of public pressure. And in that case, the direction of the discussion comes off as a bit condescending to me. I'd also be interested to hear more about what Cristine has to say about the same as a person with experience and a vested interest in this conversation!

@Sandreline

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. While I think his criticisms are valid, the few times this subject has come up he does monopolize the conversation.

@colorbar.s

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for bringing this up, you're right!!

@cloverfrost5967

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I think the duo face way too much criticism for what they say on a podcast which is basically just a couple talking. Not everything has to be perfect. I can see where you're coming from but this kind of very specific questioning can mess with someone's confidence. I just wish these guys (of all people! they're so unproblematic) could be allowed to be real humans.

@teekay534

3 жыл бұрын

@@cloverfrost5967 Hey, I wholeheartedly agree, and I've gone back and edited my comment slightly so that it hopefully comes across more as a counterpoint of the discussion rather than a personal criticism. I understand what you mean about them not deserving undue criticism for what is basically a conversation between a couple, but at the end of the day, it is a conversation that they have chosen to record and upload with their wider audience as public figures. What they say has reach in a way that a private conversation doesn't, so I would think that it's fair for us, as the audience, to share where we agree and disagree with them. Nonetheless, I hope that they are able to take in stride good faith counterpoints or carrying forward/challenging of the discussion in the comments (and their comment section is typically quite mature and insightful!), and are able to ignore or block out mean-spirited criticism or broad, ignorant generalisations. Hope my edited comment makes it more clear now that I'm trying to fall I'm the camp of the former!

@ishabiswas8224

3 жыл бұрын

@@cloverfrost5967 mess with the confidence of a wealthy White man? nah. Give more credit to a person who has experienced it, like Cristine, not just a distant observer. And when that observer very clearly seems to be judgemental, people have the right to point that out cuz this is a public, monetized video. And I say this as a fan of Ben's otherwise kind and rational approach to things. Ta.

I think a lot of this is also geographic: living in a smaller city in Canada, culturally there's WAY less pressure to wear makeup and "look your best" or what have you. It's completely socially acceptable to not wear makeup. Whereas in other places (I'm thinking L.A., NY, London) depending on what circles you run in it might be totally unacceptable to not wear makeup.

@KD22054

3 жыл бұрын

I see where you’re coming from but I kinda disagree. It’s not that it’s “unacceptable” to not wear makeup, it’s more that it’s uncommon to not wear makeup. I can also understand that someone might ask if you’re ok or upset about something if you’re someone who wears makeup a lot and then one day you dont wear makeup. That being said it isn’t any of their business wether you wear makeup or not. (I hope this didn’t come out mean)

@frostkiss2

3 жыл бұрын

I live in a metropolitan city and I can't second that. I don't wear make up and everyone is fine with that. I'm a Jr. Art Director, so the way of my style is my business card. And style is all about taste, not how much luxury you're wearing. But that's just my opinion and I learned to be confident with less and it's working as much as I can tell.

@blushandsky

3 жыл бұрын

That’s such an interesting point of view! I recently moved from Poland to Germany, and of course there are women here wearing makeup, but seems like much less and not as often as in Poland. And because I love makeup, I wear it often, sometimes colourful, sometimes more natural - but here I feel judged as if I wear too much makeup for what’s „standard” here 😃

@TheStephenRead

3 жыл бұрын

@@KD22054 in certain cities, like LA, its way more common to be pressured into presenting a certain way.

@KD22054

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheStephenRead not really. Yes in big cities there’re way more people wearing makeup and it is unusual for someone not wearing makeup, but there is definitely no pressure into wearing makeup. Trust me the amount of people in big cites, very few will care if your not wearing makeup

One of the first things they told me when I started working as a teacher in a tutoring school (common practice in my country) was to always wear make up to look fresh and neat for the students, to always wear extremely professional clothes and heels, and that I should dye or not let my purple hair show in class. I was quite upset, but I did it. In time, though, I started wearing less and less formal clothes (but still clean and ironed etc obviously), wearing flats, and putting on less make up. Especially now, during the quarantine, I have minimized make up to just lipstick (to not seem "dead" when on camera). Fortunately, my boss doesn't berate me anymore, however, it bears note that, my student's never cared what I looked like - and I teach many different age groups. They don't care if I wear heels or trainers, they care if I can teach them effectively! So f### the companies that make their women employees wear make up under the pretense that "customers" will care! If they do, then they're not there for the service I offer!

@isabelleblanchet3694

3 жыл бұрын

I medically can't wear heels, I have flat feet, wear foot orthotics, and have over flexible joints, I can be walking and my ankles with suddenly give out, plus I have chronic in-grown toenails (yay for genetics). If a boss ever told me something like that I'd say "Sure, how many times a year do you want me in surgery and crutches?"

Totally agree with you!!! I never put on makeup when I go to work!! I am not ashamed to show off how I really look.

Hey Cristine, I’m a third year medical student right now and I just wanted to let you know that your periorbital facial swelling and heliotrope rash could be due to dermatomyositis (which is an autoimmune disorder). Especially since your allergy testing came back mostly normal (some metal allergies) and you still experienced flare ups, I hope your physicians have considered this diagnosis.

@ryat3856

3 жыл бұрын

It also could be something rlly simple like severe eczema, I can’t wear makeup at all or use most soap brands Bc my skin hives and swells.

@koolkatkimina9

3 жыл бұрын

be careful.. you're presenting yourself as a third year that thinks they know more than a physician... ofc a competent dr would have considered dermatomyositis, no need to flex unnecessarily

@ryat3856

3 жыл бұрын

@@koolkatkimina9 actually you’d be surprised how many doctors don’t mention things upfront to get more money from ur insurance or out of ur pocket I had to go to the doctor a Total of 5 times to figure out a very simple problem, I was allergic to my acne medication but it took them 5 visits to even consider it, knowing what meds I was on.

@JessicaPradoHanson

3 жыл бұрын

@@koolkatkimina9 In my experience the older doctors have failed me and made my health worse because they care more about money. Younger doctors are different, I suspect the internet has supported humans to grow more empathy because we have the ability to connect more easily. As more humans get online the species will change so much to adapt to these rapid changes we have never encountered in our few hundreds of thousands of years on earth. I think we need more perspective like acknowledging how we are young compared to other species we respect less but we are starting mass extinctions for what? Those super educated people are def part of the humility issue humanity has. Our system is corrupt and the longer they are in it the more easily a person is corrupted. I say this because in 2015 I was beaten unconscious and the brain damage gave me severe MS that forced me to be home bound since then, the more isolated I am focusing on emotional growth for myself and everyone I impact the more I grow and see how sick I was. The perspective shift has been profound and painful. I see such toxicity that I am grateful that I found ways to work towards transforming my challenges into opportunities because running or denial just blinds us to reality. I now see that the USA has 300 mil people who do not all live in the same reality at all, the world even more and if we don’t adapt to how humans actually work we will continue this extinction event until nothing is left. Once the billionaires kill the rest of us who will be left to support them because they do not do the most of the work that our economy needs to run in a healthy way. We are letting them exterminate us for money and its very likely that is why all these weird health issues are escalating with the laws relaxing towards toxic dumping and creating toxins to sell without telling people its deadly like teflon. We have a right to be mad when our boundaries are disrespected and I feel a need to tell you that for some reason. I send you love and anyone reading this because we have all been violated without consent and that is what I think we should expand to see as a toxic chemical type of rape to our bodies that harms us. I also developed a meth addiction after my drs taught me that when I have flashbacks of being raped (which they didn’t make me fee comfortable enough to be honest about until 15 years after.) When I couldn’t pay attention in school they cared more about shutting me up than nurturing me to grow healthier. So I ended up on a dose of adderall that because of kids like me is now illegal to give to minors. If one treatment doesn’t work upping the dose is not the only answer adding or changing course of treatment is far better and I did that and now feel more mentally stable than the establishment way of thinking can get you.

@jecat2877

3 жыл бұрын

Don't wanna be mean, but please don't do this. Cristine has said multiple times herself she doesn't want people to diagnose her, because she is already seeing multiple doctors and trying to figure out what it is and doesn't want people in the internet to diagnose her without all the information. It's honestly really frustrating when you're trying hard to discover what's wrong with your health and people come with a diagnosis that you have already heard you don't have from your actual doctors. I know your intent is good but unless someone asks or is close to you try to avoid this type of comments cause they are frustrating.

I've said this before on another video but I'll say it again. I'm thoroughly enjoying your podcast. It's refreshingly drama-free and intelligent. Great job, you two!!!

I stopped wearing makeup to work years ago. Now when I suddenly have the odd day that I do have it on ppl ask me what’s up? If I have something I’m going to after work 🤷‍♀️

I ditched makeup years ago. Y'all just do what you want to for yourself and not for the validation from others.

@nanwijanarko1969

3 жыл бұрын

I just picked up make up this year in quaranrine, at the age of 22. Before it was only SPF day cream, not even chpstick. Well, thats if eyeliner and mascara alone counts as make up-

@persephonehades850

3 жыл бұрын

@@nanwijanarko1969 my advice as a woman in her late thirties, stay with the only SPF day cream! Your skin will thank you for it!

Hey Simply , this question is a really good one and I think that I may have missed this podcast , sry for that, I love you and thank you for answering this question

"You look tired", yea that's why I didn't do my makeup today 😂 I remember in high I would wake up about an hour two early to do my makeup and hair.. Who was she.. Present me would nevverrr lmao

When I was in school I was convinced that makeup was "cursed". I didn't wear it very often, and whenever I did I was usually upset that day and ended up crying, thus removing said makeup. I'd love to try experimenting with makeup, but I don't think I would wear it often enough for any purchases to be worth it. Most of my makeup has been given to me by family or friends who didn't want it anymore haha

I love these small clips!

But like what the hell, why is it bad that you look tired. Everyone will look tired some days. We are not perfect.

@ekunina5410

3 жыл бұрын

True Dat. WORD

@briannanicoll5274

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I truly believe that everyone is always tired, no matter who they are or what they do, they are tired. So what's wrong with looking how you feel?

@ireneultramarine244

3 жыл бұрын

preach it.

I would love to be able to wear make up again, its been waaaaay over 10 years since I properly wore make up, being a mum I don't get the chance. I get exhausted easily as have M.E. , fibro and tonnes of Autoimmune conditions, I also suffer with thyroid issues which also effect my eyes, so the make up just wouldn't hold, which sucks as I was just getting to the point where I wanted to try and at least play a little with it again, I just don't have the choice atm. However, that being said, I'm comfortable in my own skin to go everywhere without make up too, hubby loves me just the way I am too 🥰 . You make some really valid points throughout the cast, thank you! 😁

I have never gotten into makeup. I'll do it for the odd special occasion (wedding, going to a fancier restaurant, holiday, etc.), but that's it. I think makeup is fine overall, I just personally find it bothersome to put on, do like the freedom of not worrying if people see my 'naked' face, and I want to spend my money on other things. I do, however, have darker than average veins underneath my eyes. People don't simply ask me if I'm tired. 99% of the time they go, "Are you okay?", I'll say yes, and they'll make a concerned comment along the lines of it looking like someone punched me in the eye/I have a black eye. I'm like...no, no that's just my face. Thanks. First time it happened was in middle school 🤣 It hasn't ever bothered me, and people do always seem to be coming from a place of genuine concern- but it does make me think if I have had numerous people bold enough over the years to ask that question I have to wonder how many non-bold people have passed me thinking my natural face looks like someone punched me 😅

I love the fresh face look! But for those who like makeup that’s awesome too!

So relatable about the "tired" comment. I also started waning off of concealer under my eyes at work, and to Ben's point, I probably won't start off wearing it at my next job either. It's crazy how unnerving the comment can be, even though our coworkers don't really mean to come across insulting.

With my job, I don't have the energy for makeup lol if I accidentally wipe my eye, I don't have time to worry about fixing it. Also with the masks, what's the point of using foundation?

I don’t use foundation anymore. Haven’t used it in a looong time... I just love showing off my vitiligo spots right now. Oh, I haven’t given up my red lipstick! 💛

@12Tecpatl

3 жыл бұрын

vitiligo is beautiful!

@mayochupenjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll never give up bold lips, but I don’t wear anything else!

@cloverfrost5967

3 жыл бұрын

Foundation scares me! You look like a mannequin until you then add in shadow and highlight and all those other steps to make you look human again... better to just stick with your own beautiful skin imo! (and also probably better to let your pores breathe)

I’ve worn more makeup during quarantine then I ever have because I had time and I really enjoyed it. I find it relaxing

I go through waves of making myself go bare face when I feel too reliant on makeup. I have a very red face and if I wear foundation too much I start thinking my natural face is ugly. So I try and control that by only wearing a full face occasionally.

For awhile you started really liking it and did really good

Hallelujah, I agree 100%. You don't have to wear makeup 24/7. I don't wear any unless Its for an event, and even then it's still selective. I'd rather have people get to know my face and be "amazed" by the two occasions when I do wear make up instead of hearing how tired I look or whatever the other comments are.

I wake up get my kid ready put random clothes, my beanie and my glasses on then I'm ready for the day 😂

I was actually self conscious about my face for years because I DIDNT wear makeup while everyone else did- I had one instance where I went without it when I was 14 and someone genuinely asked if I was sick and that just stuck with me lol so by the time it was my junior year of high school I almost never went a day without a full face- foundation, contour, blush, highlight.... I don’t even contour anymore aside from my nose or unless I’m doing cosplay makeup and in that case I do it all.... But the one day I went WITHOUT it I ended up getting compliments instead of the “you look tired/sick”, one person said I had skin that was too good to have foundation covering it, and another said I looked super pretty without it at all. With covid becoming a thing too I’ve been wearing it less and less and though I get self conscious sometimes I’m becoming more comfortable with my bare face. The most I do now is fill in my eyebrows and eyeliner lol

I wondered that too!!?

I have been thinking about leaving off foundation and just doing eye make up when I want to have fun.

omg i learnt the whole if you consistantly wear makeup then dont one day, everyone thinks your dying in school, when a girl who wore thick black eyeliner everyday didnt once. Since then I have always been conscious of not wearing makeup too often. but I do the typical concealer and mascara everytime I go to my part time job, and I am so aware of the fact I can never miss a day now. Its sad because women are told you must put on some makeup to be presentable but also live your natural life, but wearing makeup, makes your natural self look ill/tired.

I used to always make sure I have “good makeup” on when going to job interviews to contribute to making a good first impression but you’re right about people expecting you to look a certain way if that’s your “norm” and if you do anything outside of that “norm” then something must be wrong. I’ve definitely experienced this myself but on the same token, I’ve also been guilty of assuming people must have something irregular going on in their lives if their appearance is out of the ordinary. I think that’s just the way we’re wired to think, that our brains sort of associate the difference in one’s appearance to irregularity because appearance is the first insight we get into a person’s life and therefore, the first thing we make comment on. At this point, I don’t think anyone is evil for thinking no makeup equals sick/tired or too much makeup must mean you’re going somewhere, we just need to be aware of the flaws in our logical deduction process and try not to fall for the trap of assumption. I hope it makes sense. Edit: also if someone does make these comments about your appearance just please don’t take it to heart or let it get to you. They most likely are not aware of this phenomenon and don’t know that they’re hurting your feelings or offending you. It’s important to figure out whether they have good or bad intentions with their comments in situations like these before getting upset or taking offense. Just my two cents 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hi Cristine, I had a similar issue as a teenager: I suddenly became allergic to eye makeup and I couldn't use mascara and shadows. I am now in my early thirties and I occasionally wear a bit of BB cream, but not much else. Although it was quite frustrating at first to not be able to have fun with palettes and stuff, years later, my priorities have completely changed. I focus on my skin being healthy. I enjoy a more "minimalistic" approach (finding the ultimate moisturizer and so on). I hope you'll find a similar type of fulfilment. You have gorgeous skin, just let it shine! (well not in a oily way hahaha)

I used to wear makeup everyday (high school and college) but then I just stopped and now when I wear it my eyes are killing me in a few hours. Thankfully no rashes or swelling but itchy and burning eyes, need to keep eye drops when I do wear it.

@e_viola

3 жыл бұрын

Same, mascara bothers my eyes and I have to choose eye shadow brands carefully

I haven’t worn makeup in 3 years besides the occasional mascara once in a blue moon when I feel like it. I have Blepharitis rn and I can’t even wear makeup anyways.

My dad told me I looked tired or sick the first time he saw me without makeup 🤦‍♀️ I quit wearing makeup a few years ago and it's super liberating and just like you said- people got used to my face and quit looking at me different and on the rare occasions I do wear makeup people think I just look extra good. Win/win

Personality, integrity and how someone treats others is way more important than their physical complexion. I personally don’t wear it anymore and it’s healed my skin to where I don’t need foundation … the most I do is brows and lashes for special occasions.

Make an eyeshadow line that you could use 😍

I can't wear makeup either! I've never really needed concealer but anything on my eyes makes them feel heavy and tired so I usually don't bother and if I do I only leave it on for a few hours! 😅

Totally understand, I've had issues too (makeup gave me headaches and irritability) wasn't until my skin started turning grey from deodorant (that I noticed I might be suffering from over exposure to aluminum.. my body was poisoned by the unnatural ingredients) Aluminum is the main ingredient in all brand name deodorant and the ingredient in most makeup such as eyeshadow.. Anyway, the metals stay in the body a long time (especially if used on a daily basis) so it took a year of not using any makeup products and changing my deodorant to a natural nontoxic with no aluminum.. to finally get my skin back to a normal color.. (Though I also see a dermatologist for psoriasis I later developed in my twenties.. so if you have skin issues? It's best to see a dermatologist.. ) Also I try to use natural nontoxic makeup. And don't keep old makeup that can hold bacteria.. so best to clean brushes every time you apply and throw out makeup after it's expired..

In high school I always wore makeup without fail. Then somewhere between high school and age 25 I just stopped and I don't know why. Only wearing it for pictures or special occasions. I got married at 30 and my husband thank the Lord doesn't like makeup so I really only wear it if we are getting dressed up or are going somewhere that the occasion calls for it (a wedding, etc). I turn 50 next year (talk about old lady) and I can tell you that I've worn makeup once in 5 years. Last year for my high school reunion 80s night. Had to bring out the blue eyeshadow and light blue mascara. Some people have to put on their face to go ojtside, others feel comfortable in the one God gave them. Glad you're able to get past having to wear it.

I dont wear makeup other than covering up the occasional acne for job interviews. I feel like its a good idea to keep people's expectations of my face low so i can only go up from there should i need a glow up

@collyflower6623

3 жыл бұрын

Now this is the truth

There was a time where I was so reliant on the security makeup gave me, that if I had to go in public or someone saw me without makeup I would panic, sometimes even cry. I felt I needed it due to my acne at the time but also just in general to be pretty enough. My acne eventually got so bad I had no choice but to stop wearing it and go on medication and being forced to stop wearing foundation particularly, something I relied on so much ended up being really liberating. It forced me to realise I don’t need it. Now my skin is pretty clear and I can rarely be bothered putting on makeup. I prefer how I look with makeup on, but I’m no longer bordering on a panic attack when I’m in public without it.

I usually just CBF to wear makeup honestly, except for special occasions/ if I just feel like it- even then it'd usually just be eyeshadow/eyeliner and a bit of lippy. My outfits are usually coordinated enough that nobody really cares/notices anyway if I have makeup on unless I mention it xD

I haven't been able to wear makeup for over 5 yrs, because of an eye and vision issue. All I liked was eyeliner and mascara, but with that no longer a possibility, I've learned to be so much more comfortable in who I am and what I look like

I adore makeup and love playing with the look, colours and shape. However I don't wear makeup day to day. I don't wear makeup to work, and if I decide I'm not in the mood I don't. I love it, but often don't wear it.

You probably are seeing a doctor about it but I hope you can get the medical help you need. I really like your makeup videos because you can tell how much fun you have playing with it, I hope you're able to in the future again x

I have to wear makeup that is friendly to my sensitive skin/eyes. I can’t just go buy drugstore makeup bc I will have such a bad reaction 😫 even some name brands can give me a reaction.

I have always had sensitive/reactive skin, so I get your dilemma. Over the years I have found skincare and makeup I can wear, but not without lots of pain and discomfort to actually find what works, because to do that you have to deal with and work through the adverse reaction of things that don’t work first 😩 I have found that being in quarantine I haven’t bothered with make up, with my face behind a mask it actually feels the opposite of oppressive, it’s feels liberating! 😂

I love playing with makeup. I have got so good at it. I don't like concealer or foundation though. I use bb cream and just take care of my skin.

for work (before covid) i would only put on make up if i thought my clothes and earrings required it, so every other day. otherwise i only do make up when im "going out" and thats mostly because i love putting colours and glitter on my face. i would say 80% of the time my make up comes from creativity (rather than societal pressures). what amazes me tho is the amount of girls with really high end make up looks coming up to me to say how they love and envy the colourful looks i pull off, it makes me sad that they have so much more skill but are too scared to try something out of the box and not on trend.

The main problem stems from the fact we try to look our best in an interview and people hire that look and don't think that maybe that's not what we look like on the day to day just like we don't look the same at our prom, or wedding, or any other special event where photos are needed. There is always a difference between our everyday look and a special event, even for those people who look perfect and put together daily they still do different things for special events. I grew up with a mom who never wore makeup and this was a blessing and a barrier to push through. I love the fact I never felt the need to wear makeup because my mom didn't, she is the type to only wear makeup or do her hair for special events (dates with my dad, Christmas parties, holidays, etc) but when I wanted to get into doing my makeup when I was a teen my mom knew nothing I had to figure it out on my own thankfully I had youtube and now I have taught my mom to do makeup. Today I don't wear any makeup unless I feel like it, even for holidays and events if I don't feel like it I'm not wearing anything but chapstick on my face, I might put in the effort for wearing my contacts (I used to wear contacts daily until I realized I'm lazy and glasses are easier to wear when you nap often.) I can only do my makeup if I put in my contacts because my lashes touch my lenses and already streak them with oil I don't need to have them streaked with mascara plus I can't see enough to put my makeup on without my contacts or glasses

Paring down my makeup as I've gotten closer and closer to my 30s has drastically improved my self esteem. I see my real face every day and I'm not concerned about showing it to people. I definitely owe it to my acne finally clearing up at 27 though. It's given me a new lease on life in a way

I haven’t been able to wear makeup for many years. My mom once told me that it was rude to make people see my pimples by not wearing makeup. But the makeup and other allergies were part of why my skin was bad. Thankfully I’m comfortable not wearing makeup now for an average day but I still feel like I’m judged and it doesn’t go well with dressy/formal attire.

I have this exact same problem, it even appeared around the same time as you. Eyelids get red, skin flakes off and it hurts. Originally it puffed up so much it made my eyelid crease disappear, I used topical steroids for it but it didn’t make it go away. Can’t put anything to cover it because it starts burning. I miss eyeshadow so much!! Curse you mysterious reoccurring eye-rash-possible-allergy!!!

I had a similar moment too, not long after my twins were born, at church I noticed if I forgot eye concealer (almost the only make up I was using) people would start asking if I was handling twins well, and if I was wearing the concealer no one would ask. I started actually wearing it more because I didn't want people to ask.

I never use concealer and for the past years been using tinted moisturizer instead of wearing heavy makeup. Now that I have to wear a mask for work I only do my brows. Its fun!

I love doing makeup but I’m fine with not wearing it if I don’t have time or don’t feel like it. I don’t feel like I need to wear it.

So true.... i dont wear makeup to often anymore. And the days i put concealer on are literally the only days they ask if im tired lol

when i was struggling to get a job because of the economy, i was told by an acquaintance, who was a manager of a company, that i should wear a little bit of makeup, bit of lipstick. i didn't listen and just kept doing what i was doing to keep busy while applying for jobs. a few months after, i got a job. based on my resume and who i was. without using makeup. i still don't unless i feel like it but even then, it's just lip tint the same colour as my natural lip colour and maybe my eyebrows if i could be bothered. other than that, just skincare for me.

I used to work in a salon where we are required to wear a full face of make up. My skin couldn't handle it after a while, it became really sensitive, applying anything other than face wash or cream to my face made my skin feel raw and tingly. So I gradually reduced the amount of make up I wore til it was just some eyeliner, mascara, a light dusting of eyeshadow and lipstick and I was getting complimented on my rosy complection and healthy skin. Makeup is a complicated thing, I keep it for special occasions or just to play around with colours.

i've been bare faced ever since i was born 🥰🥰

I have never been good with makeup. Also, with my mom only ever putting on lipstick, and my older sister didn't start wearing makeup until after high school, I was never really raised around people that wore makeup. I do wear makeup for special occasions and when I do cosplay. But I never really wore makeup (even though I have a shit ton). When I would randomly wear makeup people would tell me I looked nice or asked me what the occasion was. Where as people I worked with that always wore makeup, they were always asked if they were okay or be told they look tired. Which usually when some didn't wear their makeup there was something wrong. But it shouldn't be that way. I'm glad my boyfriend met me when I didn't wear makeup, so I can shock him when I do. But I've never felt the need to put on makeup before I leave the house, my sister does, just to go get coffee. I was also told by a friend that was a beauty manager, that due to me not wearing makeup, my face and skin are much more clear for my age than those that are younger than me that wear makeup every day.

I hate how makeup looks on me. Most girls in my class do but I don’t even bother, I don’t feel like myself. I never got comments on it, I do get questions from other girls if I plan on using makeup and I say no.

Cristine, you look more beautiful without makeup. Rock that natural look 💜

I find that when I take pictures of myself or appear on camera I make sure the lighting is really good and that gets rid of lots of shadows, I have in set eyes and that creates a shadow over my eyes. When people meet me they can sometimes think I look tired. Also from having insomnia people got used to my tired face so much that when I finally have spells of good sleep (which makes my face a bit puffy) people ask me “are you okay? You look unwell” people should just say “you look different, what is it?” Or something.

I literally did the same thing with makeup. I completely stopped wearing it and stopped getting comments about how I looked. It was very refreshing

I don’t wear any makeup to work, I just curl my lashes and use moisturizer.

I think the turning point for me was when I turned 25 (I’m 29 this year) and I just suddenly stopped caring about going out with bare face. Like I would rather have an extra hour in bed than get up in the morning to paint my face, I don’t know, maybe my priorities shifted. Sleep > makeup.

you are.so beautiful I hardly ever wear make up. I know you don't have a choice really but its refreshing to see.

I’m very low maintenance but I enjoy makeup. That said if it’s just everyday, I’m not spending more than 10 minutes on it tops. Very minimalist about it. Aside from that, I think Cristine looks great with it or without it.

Some time after I turned 23 (I will be turning 25 in a few months) I stopped wearing my contacts as often and that resulted in me wearing less make-up (long list of complications with my glasses and make-up not getting into it). My glasses are my primary reason for not wearing alot of make-up (compared to my teens and start of my 20's).

I’m only 13 but I love wearing makeup because I get to be creative with it. A lot of people at my school will accuse me of looking for attention or trying to be someone I’m not by wearing makeup even though that’s not the case. I only wear very bold looks at home. When I go to school I wear concealer to color correct, light foundation, blush, a touch of highlighter, mascara and a light shimmer on my eyes, so a very natural look. I haven’t worn makeup in a few weeks and i really miss putting it on lol. A similar thing happened to me where my eyes got super puffy from old mascara and I’ve had some ptsd from that 😭 but I totally get where you’re coming from with the whole “you look so tired” thing when we don’t have concealer on. So frustrating.

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I would also like to note that when I say to people “I wear it to enhance my natural beauty”, I am not talking about putting sparkly pink glitter all over my eyes 😂 I say that when I’m wearing a much more relaxed and natural face of makeup.

Makeup is such an interesting point of heated discussion when you look at it over the course of history. In victorian times it was considered a big no-no and something only 'professional' girls did. there was huge pressure to not wear makeup. then you got times like WW2 when wearing bright red lipstick was seen as a sign of patriotism in the US. You got the 50s and 60s where whole tutorial courses were given for women on how to appear 'proper and done up' in office (only for their typist job of course). Then you got the late 60s and 70s with a whole new wave of a more natural style (high fashion was going heavy on the makeup, but the whole flower power culture was very low on it). Lisa Eldridge did a fascinating video on these changes throughout history. It seems to go pretty much in waves what is considered 'empowered' to wear or not to wear makeup. One time society tells you to 'not do it' or you're loose, one time it tells you to absolutely 'do it' or you're a slob. At the end of the day I think it's up to every woman to decide. The question if makeup is empowering or not is really just a question about a woman's motivation. Is it out of her own accord, fun and interest, then makeup is very much empowering. Is it because she feels she HAS TO wear it to be accepted and to please others, that's pretty sad. At the moment I feel we're kind of in a in between phase of societal expectations. It's not like the 50s where there's a full idea how you're supposed to look when you appear in office (cause that would be pretty politically incorrect), but society does have these plenty of small little daily nudges of making women feel uncomfortable about themselves ('Oh, are you tired? Are you ill? You look pale today.' etc). As a 37 year old woman I have to say such 'well-meaning nudges' come mostly from other women, which is indeed a bit disheartening. Thank God, I arrived at an age where I can look people dead-pan in the face an answer 'Nope, this is just my face.' and enjoy the ensuing cringy awkwardness IN THEM! Doesn't mean I don't still enjoy wearing makeup on many days. Makeup is fun to me and a way to elevate my own mood in a lot of ways. But I don't feel a compulsion anymore to wear it whenever I come in front other people like I did especially as a teenager or increasingly in my late 20s when the 'you look tired' comments increased (well, duh, yeah, I work full-time, what do you expect?). Now if anyone thinks me stepping 'bare-faced' in front of them somehow entitles them to unsolicited commentary about my looks, I'm sure to make them feel uncomfortable about it and enjoy it too :p

As someone with Multiple Chemical Sensitivities I totally feel you that it's just not that I need makeup (or for me fragrances and beauty products) but I completely can't tolerate most things now and it's disappointing.

Just wanted to say I developed an allergy to all sulfates. Laurel sulfate is the most common of these, found in soaps, shampoos, etc. I had to find all products (the including makeup) that didn’t have these ingredients and now my skin is fine :)

I am super pale and if I don’t wear concealer, I always get asked if I’m tired or I’ll I don’t wear loads but colour corrector and concealer just make me not feel self conscious. I guess I should stop feeling self conscious about it.

My breakthrough with makeup and embracing my genetic dark circles, is when I put on a full face of concealer and foundation for a web design interview, felt extremely conscious of the weight and immediately took it off. If they didn't want to hire me because i looked "tired" or had a pimple, for a technical/coding job, then they don't actually need my skills. In the end, aced the interview and got the job :)

I love makeup and I do sfx on my face a lot but I have sensitive skin and in normal days I only wear mascara and a bold red lip.

I’m 62. Don’t own any makeup (including nail polish) & have never bought any myself. I did have my makeup professionally done for my daughter’s wedding 7.5 years ago. Wow, very expensive & time consuming. I conceded because it was for my daughter. The false eyelashes fell off after about 2 hrs because they were annoying & I thought there was something in my eye so I wouldn’t leave them alone. You couldn’t tell in the pics that I even had makeup on. The last time I bought any makeup was when I needed clear nail polish to stop runs in my pantyhose. Don’t wear those anymore either. Overall, makeup is too expensive. I would rather be able to pay my living expenses & the occasional treat.