Why are the Tories 'obsessed' with Angela Rayner's living arrangements? | LBC
Angela Rayner has described Prime Minister Rishi Sunak - who is 5'7 - as a "pint-sized loser" during a feisty exchange at Prime Minister's Questions.
Deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden countered the jibes by suggesting the "right honourable landlady" should step down, adding the she might start claiming the House of Commons as her primary residence if the pair were required to deputise again.
Rayner had already begun the exchange with a plea for the Conservatives to stop "obsessing" about her living arrangements and instead focus on banning no-fault evictions, saying that after 14 years the Conservative party has "failed renters, they've failed leaseholders and they've failed mortgage-holders".
Andrew Marr is joined by Editor of Prospect UK Alan Rusbridger to discuss the fiesty exchange and the fallout of the the accusations against the Shadow Deputy.
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The Police Officer investigating Angela Rayner gave a speech at the Tory Party Conference. How can that be allowed?
@glennjones2635
Ай бұрын
This needs further investigation but of course they will sweep it under the carpet.
@colincampbell4261
Ай бұрын
And spoke at tory right wing fringe groups.
@simonmaskell365
Ай бұрын
Who was it
@JupiterThunder
Ай бұрын
Maybe he's a member of the party? So what?
@csharpe5787
Ай бұрын
@@JupiterThunder given a speech at conference is more than a member of the party.
Rusbridger repeatedly describes Rayner as "...unusual..." Viewers from the US should translate this as "...not having received a private education..."
@redhandtheblack
Ай бұрын
or, "knows how to talk to the povs"
@TheLucanicLord
Ай бұрын
Barely had one at all. Still smarter than Dowden.
@denisebrown4735
Ай бұрын
Represents and is more representative of UK voters than the whole of the Tory party.
@weswheel4834
Ай бұрын
I know what you mean. But being a pedant, I have to point out that Starmer didn't either.
@stephaniewray7783
Ай бұрын
@@weswheel4834 This is not about Starmer.
This is getting boring now. Let's look deeper into the CONservative corruption. The current chancellor and the previous two.
Rayner wiped the floor with Dowden today who couldn’t even speak properly at the end. Visibly destroyed.
Personally I’m getting increasingly angry by the media allowing Tories to keep this non story in the headlines every day for 11 weeks. Meanwhile our great country is in a complete mess and the Government rejoices that the heat has been taken off of them. Classic distraction politics straight out of the Boris Johnson playbook.
I think I made a mistake on my tax form 10 years ago and under reported by £1. Should I hand myself in to police ? My Tory mate down the road said not to because he's not paid any taxes for years and never had a problem.
@earlbee3196
Ай бұрын
🦊boom boom !! Haha 😂
Oliver Dowden was definitely a snitch at boarding school 😂
@paulburton9386
Ай бұрын
He's been terrible at every government position he's had!
@philliphudson9092
Ай бұрын
Probably had his head flushed in the toilet numerous times,and by the teachers !
@ryansweeney1661
Ай бұрын
Yeah, and Angela was the bike
@drunkengamer1977
Ай бұрын
Bummed by Sir no doubt
@sarangistudent8614
Ай бұрын
@@ryansweeney1661so was Oliver
Got to hand it to Ange. Dowden was ready with his list of housing jokes and she completely played him by bringing it up first. She 8 miled him.
@bellywood7688
Ай бұрын
Ange lol😊
@Cherrytune386
Ай бұрын
🎯
@andrewmark2783
Ай бұрын
Rayner is always brilliant at PMQs. Her delivery is so much more authentic and effective than Starmer.
No, Angela did NOT have to defend herself against Dowden ... she wiped the floor with him!!! GET YOUR REPORTING ... RIGHT!!!
The Tories are using Rayner as a shield to hide their incompetence -- a distraction.
@oneoflokis
Ай бұрын
💯
@Jonnyonthespot123
Ай бұрын
@@deeingalaplikeThe right wing press convinced enough of a nation that Eton mess Boris Johnson was their pal from down the pub. Never underestimate their influence.
@johnsheehan7770
Ай бұрын
It won't be any better under Labour. We need a clear out and new faces in Parliament.
@raylittle8607
Ай бұрын
@@johnsheehan7770 I tend to agree with you. MPs appear to be in it to make themselves richer and the majority poorer.
@Gary-le7dz
Ай бұрын
John it was a lot better in 2010 …..
What a complete waste of time and public money. 12 police officers? We only have three police officers to cover the whole area I live in and a population of close to 500,000. It is time for the police to be completely independent of politics and the government. How may police officers are involved in investigating the Mark Menzies and William Wragg incidents I wonder. Why is this no longer on the front page of all the media still, might it be they are Tories
@SuezWSuezW
Ай бұрын
They are constitutionally meant to be independent of the government. The person who referred this to the police was acting as a "ahem" private citizen. I think it's a conspiracy.
@Andrew-fq6gm
Ай бұрын
Why 😊won't she show the tax advice
@segue2ant395
Ай бұрын
@@SuezWSuezW Private Citizen James Daly, Deputy Chair of the Tory party. He is proud of the fact that he reported her to the police - but refuses to publicly say what he thinks she did wrong. Let's be honest; he reported her with information he knew was false or misleading, and he won't say it publicly because he knows he'd be liable for slander.
@col.hertford9855
Ай бұрын
@@SuezWSuezWnot really, they have always reported via the home office and are now overseen by the Elected Police Commissioners. The Tories have long been trying to move to a politicised police service. They are also trying to do the same with Judges. These attacks are trying to move to an American heavily political model.
@SuezWSuezW
Ай бұрын
@@segue2ant395 Yep, pretty sure you're right.
Because they know that she's going after their millions in tax avoidance. Isn't it strange that the people who are shouting about Angela Reyner the loudest are the ones who stand to lose the most.
They are obsessed with tarnishing Angela Rayner because the Tories are frightened of her ability as a politician.
@captricharddee3634
Ай бұрын
What ability?
@davewright9312
Ай бұрын
Ha ha ha ha.. Oh yes of course they are it's like being frightened of the bogeyman... Neither the bogeyman or Rayners political talent exist 😂😂😂😂
@stephaniewray7783
Ай бұрын
@@captricharddee3634 So Risky and the Cons are better than Angela. Go take a seat, at the back we don't have time for fools😂😂
@ryansweeney1661
Ай бұрын
😂😂
@ChrisJones-ht9zn
Ай бұрын
@@davewright9312Really? A working class woman right at the top of politics. She runs rings around any Tory. That's why they are scared shitless of her.
The Tories will stoop to any level in order to divert attention from their utter shitness.
@dekone5758
Ай бұрын
We are ! Rishi’s tax records are about to be made public after a legal request was granted
Tired to death listening to Angelas housing story we have more important things to deal with. Look at your own members and all the stealing and misuse of our taxes Mr Sunak.
@SuezWSuezW
Ай бұрын
Your taxes, their donors money, the environment, other people's lives...they are wastrels.
Constant attacks on a working class woman who bought her house (like millions of others) for making a few thousand quid 10 years ago will and is backfiring. Ignoring the hundreds of millions tories gave to their mates just highlights the complete hypocrisy and depravity of tories
@davecrow2504
Ай бұрын
Everyone should bring up sleazey baroness mone
Ah yes. The Lord Ashcroft who owns the world's largest collection of VCs. That is, the awards given to men who were prepared to lay down their lives for their country, now in the possession of a man who is not even prepared to pay his taxes.
@SuezWSuezW
Ай бұрын
That's sorta interesting, but f*ckin' sad. He must be a sicko.
Police chief investigation into Rayner spoke at a Tory conference WELL WELL WELL
@tomk8729
Ай бұрын
Two word reply to that: Sue Gray.
This is absurd. Don't compare Raynor's potential sandcastle with Johnson/Truss/Sunak's proven beach. There's no comparison here.
Tories behaving badly. Nothing new there. Police resources being wasted. Tories scared to death of Angela Rayner.
The Tories are just deflecting,from there ,rent boy problems
Stop talking about this nonsense
@jeremymerrifield7244
Ай бұрын
Who are you aiming your comment at ?
@Thebearmre7
Ай бұрын
@@jeremymerrifield7244 the producer of show
@gregsmith7821
Ай бұрын
Why
@segue2ant395
Ай бұрын
@@gregsmith7821 Cos there's currently a cost of living crisis, a healthcare crisis, a migration crisis (apparently), an employment crisis, and technically we're in recession still, while our PM is trying to sell anything that's not nailed down before we sack him. There are real events affecting the future of this country that current affairs shows could be talking about.
The Manchester Commissioner is a Tory!! Also, Mr Marr, Rayner slaughtered Dowden. The Tory jibes got nowhere. Were you seeing the same PMQs
@norawright807
Ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out. It was shocking.
She bodied him… no wonder they’re going after her.. she terrifies the Tories
They're threatened and intimidated by a strong and intelligent woman. 😮
The more the Tories attack Angela the stronger she gets, Angela is a superb role model and a wonderful asset for Labour which is why she is under attack. 🏆Angela Rayner🏆
The Tories are playground bullies. Obviously they will attack a working class lady with ambitions above her "station"... well geuss what. In the Westminster bubble she is a target. But in the real world there are millions of female voters, who also didn't go to Eton. And many live in the Midlands and the North. And she is a working class hero. Not the sort of relatable working class lass lady who resigns, causing a damaging byelection because Boris promised her an ermine fur coat and it never happened. 😂 that is Labour versus the Tories in a nutshell.. ❤
@user-im8us6sg5d
Ай бұрын
They don't accept her because she won't doff cap ,touch forelock to them.They think they are far superior to ordinary working class people.
@geraldbutler5484
Ай бұрын
Working class people are the backbone of the country. Come on sweep these privileged skivers into the ditch. It’s s time to vote for the people who really keep this nation above water. Run the country on merit not wealth and social position .
Because it distracts from failure and their own party's scandals... Mark Menzies
She did a great job at PMQ's
@robertadams1054
Ай бұрын
OMG are you for real. Looked like a real Trollope showing off her wares?
@dannylad1600
Ай бұрын
@@robertadams1054, nah the OPs right... she tore that Tory guy a new one.
@Jack-fs2im
Ай бұрын
and your impartial
@captricharddee3634
Ай бұрын
@@robertadams1054 I believe the words you're looking for are Northern Gobshite.
@jonathanboam5409
Ай бұрын
@@captricharddee3634 Quite so, old boy. See you down the Garrick for drinkie-poos.
I really cannot understand why tories have a problem with working class, over-achiever, beautiful, competent, witty, popular Angela Rayner.
@paulstewart4195
Ай бұрын
Witty and popular 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@AT-gr4qx
Ай бұрын
You forgot hypocrite.
@csharpe5787
Ай бұрын
@@paulstewart4195yep!
@heliotropezzz333
Ай бұрын
@@AT-gr4qx Why? She's not been convicted of anything, unlike many Tories.
@partyringsparty
Ай бұрын
@@AT-gr4qx You forgot fact
Private Eye has shown links between the Far Right & the Policeman behind the slurs on Angela with the Far Right in the Tories yet his is not mentioned by Marr or his mate. See also Supertanski on this.
Because they have no plan besides just saying the plan is working 🤣
@SuezWSuezW
Ай бұрын
It's as if they think people aren't now hyper aware of that. Hilarious.
It's literally the only thing anywhere near approaching dirt they have on Labour. Compared to some of the things the Tories have been up to it's laughably unimportant.
Clearly, the Tories are in such a mess they are desperate to distract. 🤣🤣🤣
They need a distraction.
Ffs Andrew - do not compare Angela to liar Johnson.
@paulstewart4195
Ай бұрын
Ok she is just a common liar and hypocrite how’s that
@Jonnyonthespot123
Ай бұрын
@@paulstewart4195 Yeeeeah no
@drunkengamer1977
Ай бұрын
@@paulstewart4195You have her confused with a Tory
@esseker6320
Ай бұрын
I think Marr is a closet tory.
@uniquerebeljaney3639
Ай бұрын
I was just about to comment the same thing. Johnson isn't fit to lick Rayner's boots.
Starmer and Rayner know she is in the clear.
@Jonnyonthespot123
Ай бұрын
Absolutely correct. You don't offer to stand down if found guilty if there is any chance of you actually being guilty
The brass neck on these crooks to accuse someone else of tax avoidance
Because it's pretty much all they have
It further verifies the impotence of the tory party. What Ms Rayner did 10 years ago is history as well as minor compared to the incompetence, sleeze and dubious activities of the opposition.
@robg5710
Ай бұрын
“It was only a minor crime therefore because she is Labour, we should ignore it”.
@kiljaeden7663
Ай бұрын
@@robg5710is also something that HMRC already reviewed and they said "case closed".
@user-im8us6sg5d
Ай бұрын
12 police officers investigating something that can't be prosecuted because of statute of time limits.
I love Angela Raynor. She's real, authentic and speaks the same language as us. 12 officers for a working class women that buys her own council house. Says it all, it really does. And the Tories obsession with it.
@SlowhandGreg
Ай бұрын
For tax purposes you don't need to live somewhere to use it as your primary residence. Notice Dowden's careful use of language, they really fear her and thier media dogs will do anything to pull her down
Watson the GMP Chief Constable, has addressed far right wing CONservative tjink tanks. Ashcroft still calls himself @LordAshcroft
Deflecting from their own terrible behaviour.
Labours best asset Oliver Dowden
@Nice0n3
Ай бұрын
I think there is quite the competition going on for that particular title.
@leejones4439
Ай бұрын
No he isn't. But he's one of them. There's a list.
@SuezWSuezW
Ай бұрын
Basset? Yeah, I thought he was a brainless as one of those.
Starmer is fortunate to have Rayner as his deputy. He should always have her back. The press will come at her because they always serve the interests of the Tories.
Tories fear real politicians.
@ryansweeney1661
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Do you mean the village bike
@SpenceJS87
Ай бұрын
@@ryansweeney1661 You sound nervous.
Leave her alone...Angela is for the people... shes honest and noble...the Tories are just disgusting... they are greedy and crule..
There wouldn't be much point in abolishing the right to buy council homes given they the Tories haven't built any.
It is all the Tories have left.
And the Tories are up for a clear view of what they did before they were MPs? Also, are they throwing stones at their own glass houses....
Tories are terrified of her?
@ryansweeney1661
Ай бұрын
😂😂,
It gives the media something to write about other thsn all the failings of this wretched government
Did you hear them mention how worried they are about her working class.
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
Ай бұрын
👍🏻
Because it's all they've got..... Ive heard about those in glass houses but I really dont see how they DARE mock anyone with their almost endless catalogue of perversions, lies incompetence and theft
Dowden finished Labours questions with she spends to much time criticising others failings she’d only criticised the Tory’s and himself . Besides that being the oppositions job He just admitted that they are failures .
Dowden saying the tories have recently in the last or last two parliaments made this country great , he's living in cloud cuckoo land, he's sick of mind, he's suffering from denial of the truth. £billions wasted and missing with the people picking up the tab.
Ms. Rayner may be an unusual politician, but so is Mr. Starmer. He is almost certainly not going to fold in the face of unfair media pressure. That would open the door for more press bullying in future.
This the one thing that the tories have been successful in and that is wasting public money and resources.
It’s scary to think that these clowns are supposed to be running our country. It’s more like a noisy kindergarten!
They've got nothing else to campaign on
Is this the best the torys can come with.don’t like the fact she from a council house
Here's a question nobody seems to be asking - have Greater Manchester Police EVER investigated ANYBODY for alleged evasion of CGT let alone assign 10 detectives on to the case which seems to centre on a sum of under two grand? And if they haven't (and they so haven't) has the force's head's close relationship with the Conservative Party and it's extreme right wing got something to do with it?
Let's have a long close look at Dowden's Expenses Claims for the last few years shall we?
I think the Tories are so obsessed because she's a competent, working class woman. Everything that they hate. Competent. Working class. It's anathema to them, they despise her for her ability.
THE POLICE IN THiS COUNTRY NEED TO BE INDEPENDENT
She didn't say he was a "great" election winner, she said he was their biggest election winner. This is about numbers only - not the qualities of the man, as you seem to want to suggest with the word "great". The story only survives because the likes of you keep giving it the kiss of life.
They're obssessed by her, she's tory kryptonite. Dowden had no chance against her.
It's a diversionary tactic away from the Mark Menzies scandal, it's reported that the money was in a fund that “sits outside the remit” of the party and its local association. This raises more questions, whose money was it, what was it for and who authorised its use ? The questions continue.
@michaellamb3731
Ай бұрын
And who was it paid to for what
Everyone can see this for the cynical, hypocritical and desperate ploy it is. If Starmer were to cave to this and throw Rayner under the bus to try and save his own skin, I hope nobody would forgive him.
@ 0:55 sweeping away the reforms that made this country Great, What made this Country Great were the four Reform Bills 1832, 1867, 1884-85, And in 14yrs or tory rule, NO act as improved the lot of the hourly paid worker,
Rayner is a real threat...unlike Starmer. Its just deflection from the Tories own corruption. I actually laughed when he said 'makes Britain great'...I can't decide whether Britain is a joke (because it isn't funny but it is ridiculous) or a disgrace (because if it wasn't people's lives involved it would be funny). I feel sick about living in the UK now. I said I would leave the country if Thatcher got back in, I wish I did because it has only got worse. I am ashamed of being British, the UK is a despicable country to live in
@SlowhandGreg
Ай бұрын
Thatcher stripped around 1.2 trillion in assets from the country a lot now owned by offshore interests If you have an asset such as a house, water company, energy your expecting a return, so the value to the country of ownership is a loss of around 60 billion per year
Well done to Angela facing them yesterday at PMQs!
What were you watching. She went on the attack from the start. Dowden was squeaky and wet as usual. Get a grip on reality
People underestimate Starmer again and again Starmer isn’t scared of Murdoch he’s put his journalists into criminal court before.
The look on Penny Mordaunt's face says it all.She knows the game is up.
Angler is a real polatition. She will helo the ordinary people... thats what labour duposed to do...
@ryansweeney1661
Ай бұрын
Omg She told you not to sell your house while selling hers How dumb are you guys She's just a rusty bike
@DellaWilliams-vo3ez
Ай бұрын
@@ryansweeney1661Not true. But if it was, so what? This happened before she became involved in politics. Did you shout loudly about when Liz Truss was a Lib Dem who campaigned to remain in the EU?
@ryansweeney1661
Ай бұрын
@@DellaWilliams-vo3ez You are nothing more than a hypocrite, Do not message me , please
@DellaWilliams-vo3ez
Ай бұрын
@@ryansweeney1661 This person - Ryan sweeney - is the epitome of a snowflake 😂😂😂😂
@ryansweeney1661
Ай бұрын
@@DellaWilliams-vo3ez You don't even know she said don't sell council house but did herself You are the exact reason no one takes the lefties serious
Why were Labour so obsessed with Boris’s relationship with Carrie, or how he celebrated his birthday with a cake?
Starmer needs to swallow his pride and back Rayner. She's Labour's biggest asset for the election campaign. Starmer lacks charisma, he needs her whether he likes it or not.
Come on Marr you're keeping it going too. It's gone on for weeks because Tories have nothing else on Labour and NO, this is not debilitating for Labour, it's to be expected.
It just shows how desperate the Tory newspapers are, that this none story is the best that they can dig up on the Labour front bench.
Angela is a proper politician. Tories have gone for her since Dominic Rabb got roasted by her. Men picking on women in politics is as low as one can get. The tories portray themselves whiter than white. Everyone of them has a skeleton or two in the cupboard.
Is this a joke? She totally undercut him from the start, and he was floundering from then on.
It's the only smearful thing the Tories can come up with against Labour.
Time to move on, as the tories always say
Strarmer gone with a few others and bring back Corbyn and recruit Lynch, and Rayner for Prime Minister.
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
Ай бұрын
I'd prefer her as PM over Starmer any day. She'd get things done.
Its a bit like Piers Morgan and Megan Markle. Unhealthy. 😂😂
no scandal would be worse than Starmer letting Rayner go for unfounded alegations about literally nothing at all. I do hope that Starmer is not so foolish to do this very wrong thing.
Angela should react with one word: rentboys! The shiver of fear on the Tory benches would be so rewarding to watch....
She’s noticed because she speaks with a regional accent. It’s that simple.
As a long working class tax payer, if I didn’t pay the appropriate TAX, or didn’t designate my place of residence correctly to avoid capital gains tax, I would be investigated as well? Rayner has been outspoken against other MP’s and now the focus is on her, She and her loyal supporters seem to think this is unfair? If proved she did try to get away with capital gains tax, then She has brought this on herself!!!!
It is a message. If you look into other politicians and ask for accountability, then they will pull your life apart as payback. That's why no one is supporting her.
The Tories are obsessed with Rayner`s living arrangements just as Labour was obsessed with getting rid of Boris! It is called `payback time!`
Rayner should go??? That's the way it is and has been for 30 years if a scandle imerges??? If that's the case we would not have the tory party at all!!
Now I’m hoping they find her guilty and is arrested and charged. It will make the Tories look like Putin’s Russia, but I suppose that’s what they’re aiming for.
The pmqs just shows that Ryaner would be a better pm than Starmer
because it's taking the derry off themselves..🙄..
Why is LBC so obsessed with reporting this?
We LBC shall open with are prayer The Thing About The Tories Verse 2 The Thing about The Tories Verse 3 The Thing about the Tories
Im sorry, is this country 'great'?
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
Ай бұрын
Right? I'd love to hear what's so great about it without someone bringing up the past. This country has gone downhill so far in the last 15 years it's incredible. Half of us are struggling to put food in our bellies and keep warm ffs.
Rayner is two faced like the rest of them . She had no problem profiting from Maggie's policy of buying a council house on the cheap . Not very principled is it ?🤑🤑🤑😡