Fun fact: the (tiny) German speaking community elect their own seat in the EU. This technically means the people living there are the most influential in Europe

@MegaSavvis

Ай бұрын

That's interesting, in which EU institution? Edit: thanks to everyone for clarifying it’s the Parliament, suspected it was that but wanted to double check

@Enkabard

Ай бұрын

yeah but thats literally point of EU, for germans to be most influential in europe to begin with?

@watershock9211

Ай бұрын

@@Enkabard ironically not at all. What this comment is talking about is the fact that seats in the EU parliament are not distributed equally. Member states with a larger population do have more seats in the parliament but less seats per capita to make sure the EU parliament is not simply an extension of German politics or some other reason. Now the German speaking part of Belgium has the highest EU parliament seats per capita and therefore, one vote in Kelmis (Belgium) is technically worth as much as 10ish votes from Aachen which is just across the border in Germany.

@nikobellic570

Ай бұрын

*Per capita

@Suwawako

Ай бұрын

It kinda reminds me how Wyoming in the United States, by technicality, has more voting power in the electoral college than, say California due to population.

Babe wake up, new video about "OMG BELGIUM IS BREAKING UP ???" dropped (since 1830)

@JmKrokY

Ай бұрын

💀

@IceGuadian

Ай бұрын

(for real this time (gone sexual))

@Subsandsoda

Ай бұрын

Yes dear 😞

@nikobellic570

Ай бұрын

​@@IceGuadian I need to hear more

@goldenfiberwheat238

Ай бұрын

It’s like all those KZread videos about with China is a superpower or China is collapsing

Belgium is like a country with high functioning anxiety. You see the stress, you see the self-doubt, and yet it still keeps going...

@lud3re384

Ай бұрын

We’re quite a stubborn people. Heck, one could argue that our most stable political period in recent memory was when we didn’t have a government for a while. The caretaker government kept things going steadily and there was much much less political drama for a while. Quirky little country, love living here.

@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva

Ай бұрын

And its people still have a shockingly high level of Stockholm syndrome, despite the "nation" functioning pretty poorly. And for that I can only say one thing: België barst - De Nederlanden één! Groet aan alle Vlamingen en succes aankomende verkiezingen, en vergeet de NSV!-betoging op 25 april in Antwerpen niet!

@tomh2121

Ай бұрын

I’ve heard it described as the ‘most successful failed state’.

@kianlakchi7182

Ай бұрын

@@tomh2121 That's ... not a bad description actually. (yes, I'm Flemish/Belgian)

@bababababababa6124

Ай бұрын

No wonder Congo is the way it is today. An unstable country ruled another unstable country 😂

perfect depiction of duolingo saying ‘dutch or the crutch’ 😂

@koushikdas657

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@JmKrokY

Ай бұрын

🤔

@NQR-9000

14 күн бұрын

Fun thing : there is no Dutch course for French speakers in duolinguo. I know, I'm a French speaking belgian and I had to use the course for English speakers in order to have a mean to progress in Dutch...

I would like to congratulate TLDR News for the best explanation of how our country works to other people. Most Belgians aren't even capable to explain this so clear!

@amh9494

Ай бұрын

Stupid sexy Flanders

@jaro551

Ай бұрын

I'm sorry, but you are easily impressed. The information is as basic and general as it can get. Which is not a problem in itself, but it barely takes any time so don't act as if you learned so much with this. It begins to annoy me how TLDR makes so many easy videos with low effort and still 25% of the video is sponsorships... it's just an ad basically.

@anomonyous

Ай бұрын

Anything besides the basics of how our system works was complete conjecture and could only come from someone who knows absolutely fk all about our system. It's a throwaway video at best. Completely meaningless and with misunderstandings aplenty of how things really stand. But yeah. Wow. They figured out how the country works. A 2 minute google search. 👏👏👏. The fact so many people are politically illiterate doesn't make this mushroom a genius for being passably capable at his job. All it does is once again show we have a broken system that few truly understand and a continuously worsenint education system.

@adnanshehabe8466

Ай бұрын

​​@@jaro551you are right but even so there are many people in belgium who dont even understand these basic things that where said in the video

@JmKrokY

Ай бұрын

Cool

My favorite part about this video is all the Belgians in the comments saying “haha yeah it’s a mess but it’s home”

@Adomir

Ай бұрын

Belgium is a mess, Flanders is our home you mean

@jonathanjoos2284

Ай бұрын

As if everything in Flanders runs smooth ​@@Adomir

@gunterification

Ай бұрын

@@jonathanjoos2284 Better than the south even when we pay most of their bills.

@jonathanjoos2284

Ай бұрын

@@gunterification it's not an enveloppe with money tho. Tbf Flanders is also going in the red. Things will change, PS will have to fight off ptb/pvda and MR. and according to polls, it's not PS all the way. Flanders will be worse of with independence tho. For exemple environnement, for that and only they must pay a fortune to get close to EU norms.

@gunterification

Ай бұрын

@@jonathanjoos2284 We are basically two separate countries already. There's too many differences. We should just make it final and end it here. Wallonia can have their green/leftist utopian dream and we have our economy and get to keep our wealth. There's no need for belgium anymore.

If Bruxelles is bilingual it is because the population speaks Arabic and French.

@smal750

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@marcelroy6034

Ай бұрын

In terms of majority languages that is absolutely correct 😂

@Marcus12813

Ай бұрын

2 times a week I am so excited I get to spend about 30 min in Brussel-Zuid waiting for my connection, my weekly little adventure 🥰

@dontlaughtoomuch11

Ай бұрын

@@Marcus12813 What do you mean by that? What's so special about that particular train station.

@askratavil

Ай бұрын

@@dontlaughtoomuch11 Cause just like in Gare du Nord in Paris, if it was not for the shitty weather, you could genuinely believe you were somewhere in the Maghreb region, based on the local fauna.

Belgian here :) two small mistakes: the N-VA does want flemish independence. They currently focus on confederalism, because they realize that most flemish do not want flemish independence. Also, at 7:00 the names N-VA and MR/OVLD have been mixed up in the graph. For the rest: great video!

@maximepirard6171

Ай бұрын

They strategically retreated to advocating "confederalism" but they're quite open about being nationalists who want an independent Belgium. Also a true confederal state wouldn't be viable anyways and would probably quickly crumble to full nationalism.

@generalsquirrel9548

Ай бұрын

Nva for some reason let me think of the vietcong. Also as a dutchman may i ask why the hatred to dutch people from Belgium people (hint look at qoute from you national team that said they are happy they lost because so they are not with Dutch people)

@Please002

Ай бұрын

Walloons once tried to wipe out the Flemish language in Belgium, calling them uncivilized. I can understand why some people from Flanders hates them.

@TheKadanz

29 күн бұрын

@@Please002 No, it has nothing to do with that. The flemish nationalist parties make the argument that Flanders sends too much money to Wallonia, money they can use in flanders. Wallonia also has a higher unemployment rate (or used to have a much higher rate) than flanders, fueling the argument that flanders is essentially providing the wallonians with free welfare. Given the current climate of increased inflation and more expensive standard of living, many people are signing up to that line of thinking.

@Disneynurse2024

11 күн бұрын

Indeed and the Vlaams belang is not a party that teckels this issue it is a rasisme party

To make things more complicated is the motto of belgium.

@MrBurnsExcellent

Ай бұрын

"unity" it says lol

@saltinats

13 күн бұрын

@@MrBurnsExcellent We are very united against the french though

@Benderofdemise

9 күн бұрын

Never have i seen so much seperation.

@keiththienpondt4564

4 күн бұрын

This is better then more of the same believe me.

@saltinats

4 күн бұрын

@@keiththienpondt4564 ?

When it comes to Flemish independence there's always the Brussels problem to take into account on why this will never happen. As you can see on the map, Brussels lies in Flanders and is even its historical and current capital. So the Flemish nationalists will never give up on Brussels. But the reality also is that for a variety of reasons Brussels has become ever more French speaking over the decades, with currently only a tiny minority of inhabitants having Dutch as their first language. So the nationalists have no chance of convincing the people of Brussels to come along with them democratically.

@onikamaraj1239

Ай бұрын

Even the Dutch minority here in Brussels is mostly against a Flanders independence

@peterfireflylund

Ай бұрын

The French speakers can be demigrated from Brussels. Same with the Arabs.

@TheShadowOfZama

Ай бұрын

You seem to forget that Brussels has no alternative than to come along with Flanders either immediately or to come begging afterwards. A Flemisch nationalist does not have to convince anyone from Brussels to follow. The simple fact that the moment Flanders abandons Brussels that Brussels will become a third world region will do wonders to 'convince' people to remember where their loyalties should lie. Brussels has nothing to offer on its own. And Wallonia is not going to want that anchor attached to their leg either. People from Brussels aren't Walloons, Wallonia has no physical connection to Brussels and Brussels offers nothing to Wallonia beyond a massive pile of debt of which Wallonia has no shortage itself. Brussels airport to name one example isn't located in Brussels, but in Flanders, most of the employees in Brussels come from Flanders, most of the trade comes from the Flemish region,... If Flanders were to cut itself off from Brussels there would be no Brussels only the Prypyat of Western Europe without the nuclear fallout. Also saying Brussels has become more French speaking is very, very deceiving. A lot of people in Brussels speak neither Dutch nor French very well which is one of the reasons why the unemployment is so high there. More of them know a little French than there are that know a little Dutch, but nonetheless counting them as 'French speaking' is highly deceiving.

@Emanon...

Ай бұрын

You seem to be under the illusion that Brussels, the de facto capital of Europe, would be under a blockade from Flanders. You're not being entirely honest in your analysis either, are you?

@insidiatori9148

Ай бұрын

Like you said, it is historically dutch. Thats a clean answer for to who it belongs

1:55 duolingo in its least agressive state

Probably not. For every thousand "will country X split apart" videos on yoube...

@AmirSatt

Ай бұрын

The probability is very low but with every single event and year it is more probable

@TheSpeep

Ай бұрын

Flemish here, this is a thing that comes up like every few years and never goes anywhere, last time it was the NVA calling for it. Vlaams Belang are a bunch of idiots no literate person would ever reasonably vote for, unfortunately we have a lot of people that fit that bill, we have a lot of racist idiots here. Our political system is a giant tangled mess tho, that much is true.

@stellarisstrategy4488

Ай бұрын

@@AmirSattPeople just care about a reasonable degree of confidence, black swan not included lol

@cheesebiscuits6323

Ай бұрын

Hmmm yes, yoube

@soundscape26

Ай бұрын

Fun exercises for KZread content but rarely ever happens. In the last 30 years only Sudan has split.

I think its a pretty accurate report on the state of belgian politics. I get the impression of 1/3-1/2 of VB voters you talk to are motovated as an anti establishment vote more than anything else. If you look at polling a Vivaldi 2 is mathematically possible. Question is more if the parties will agree on who does what

@yannickgeudens5192

Ай бұрын

If the Cordon holds (which it most likely will) a vote for VB is essentially a vote for Vivaldi 2. The only party big enough to make a difference is NVA. I'm not a fan of Vivalidi but even less of those bunch of Waffen-SSers. NVA it is for me.

@TheSpeep

Ай бұрын

Anti establishment, and a severe distaste for brown people. As much as I wish differently, people here be racist. Every other week or so I've got a coworker going on some type of rant about "those brown monkeys"...

@sneepmol8320

Ай бұрын

NVA had a lot of time to prove their worth and proved to be a just another wing of the same sick bird that our establishment is.

@zarbi64

Ай бұрын

@@sneepmol8320 Aren't they basically the same? I don't know if flemish have the comparison but it's like Marine Lepen and Eric Zemmour in France, the second is here so that the first can seem moderate even tho she was the extremist at one point

@goganii

Ай бұрын

​@@zarbi64when it comes to immigration, NVA has some pretty disgusting views. We saw it clearly with their migration minister Theo Franken who instead of solving the crisis, decided to build more prisons for undocumented immigrants, prisons where child spend their whole teenage years and where the suicide rate is very high

As a Belgian living in Flanders I can say your explanation is good. I also think a lot of people are just going to vote for the VB because they are sick of "the system" or migration. Flemish independence is only something people want if they have been long time VB voters. And just very, very, unlikely in the EU.

@daszieher

Ай бұрын

actually, the EU makes segregation movement more sensible. What would be the real disadvantage of Flanders being a direct Member State in the EU without the need to finance the Belgian Federal level? There would still be "border signs" indicating the crossing of the border into Wallonia, like into The Netherlands or Germany or France... Flemish would just save money and nothing else would change.

@infrared909

Ай бұрын

@@daszieher On the contrary. As a "new country" Flanders would lose all existing treaties and so also fall out of the EU. And the EU is not really waiting for countries to fall apart as we have seen for example with the Catalonian attempt. Instead of saving money it would probably be a lot more costly than good reforms that make the country work better. But then you need a boring tradional party to be big enough and willing to do so. So the far right and the far left just make it worse.

@dante343ify

Ай бұрын

@@daszieher There is the issue of what happens with Brussels. Does it go to Flanders (as it historically should), does it go to Wallonia (which would also make sense considering the bilingual status of Brussels is a myth, with french being the most common language by far). Both parts of our country will not let that part go easily , as Brussels is a very economically active region and also of course the capital of Europe. Which also means the EU would prefer not to see us split because then it also becomes a major headache for them too. I don't see a split happening anytime soon, even though I personally believe Flanders should be a country of it's own considering historically it doesn't really make that much sense to lump us together with Wallonia and I also believe it to be a remnant of times where we were heavily oppressed by France. But with the current political system , I don't think it's possible.

@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn

Ай бұрын

@@daszieher If they left they´d have to join again, that´s the issue. If Flanders separated they´d have to either start the entry process again or join the Netherlands.

@lordmiraak8991

Ай бұрын

​@@dante343ifyhistorically it doesnt really make sense to lump antwerp and vlaams brabant into flanders either. Historically only the regions of west-vlaanderen, oost-vlaanderen en nord-pas-de-calais were known as flanders. This flemish flag is a flag that does not represent the citizen in limburg and brabant... As much as we seem to larp it does.

As a flemish person I can say this is pretty accurate despite being complicated. I don't see Belgium splitting up in the close future. Not a lot of people really want it.

@user-ms9xw9br7s

Ай бұрын

It's going to gain more and more support as economies are falling and migration kept up... Your culture is been destroyed and replaced with a woke one which will bring more chaos

@vanpeers

Ай бұрын

​@@user-ms9xw9br7s IF this would be happening you think the separation of Belgium would help this?😂And also voting on populist parties to have a better economy is not really ideal... research (real research not some youtubers/influencers) shows that populist parties (extreme right OR left) always show a declining economy by "protecting their economy". And a culture is always changing, just like languages, i understand this could be scary for some people but this not always bad and was always happening. Woke as such is not really bad i believe, its just used to put everything scary/bad (especially for conservative people), this causes to always overheat the debate between the left and right and conclusion of both is "ON YOUR SIDE EVERYTHING IS BAD!". What I think we should be doing is just listen to both sides, what's the common ground, why do we want this change, why are you scared of it,....? My 2 cents.

@jokbok995

Ай бұрын

@@user-ms9xw9br7s according to research only a small minority is for Flemish independence Belgium will stay for a really long period Belgium At least for the coming years Very unlikely but in a way Never say never

@redsky397

7 күн бұрын

​@@user-ms9xw9br7s this independance talking has been going atound for more then 2 decades alteast. Its nzver going to happen.

Corsica doesn't have any elected pro-independence party - THEY DO have pro-autonomy parties. And that's because unlike Scotland, Catalonia and Flanders, Corsica is ridiculously poor.

@Helm11

Ай бұрын

Nah man scotland is pretty poor, england carries the whole union economically

@rorymoore9269

Ай бұрын

​@@Helm11by that you mean London and the home counties. Most of the North is Quite Impoverished in Comparison

@therealdave06

Ай бұрын

​@Helm11 Scotland is actually comparatively wealthy. England outside of London/south east is one of the poorest parts of western Europe

@nicholasavasthi9879

Ай бұрын

@@Helm11Scotlands per capita and overall gdp are about the same as New Zealands. Per capita they’re slightly higher than France. So, not exactly a poor country.

@kaiserfranzjoseph9311

Ай бұрын

@@Helm11 scotland is far from being poor, and it has the added advantage of not having shitholwa like London

Its the right of man to want not being part of any french speaking country. I think Thomas Paine once said that.

Thank you for the overall summery. While i know the individual parties, it is always a pain to figure out how they all do in the overall picture. This might have saved me over 40 hours of foreigner (me) asking questions about the current state of political turmoil.

As a Fleming I've watched several of these videos, and I have to say yours is remarkably accurate across the board, especially for a foreigner. Congratulations. I personally would have no issues with independence, but I have no problem admitting that most of the population doesn't want this. In fact, the main effect of the rise of Vlaams Belang has to been to discredit Flemish nationalism in the eyes of the center and left, so it's probably had a negative impact, if anything.

@davianthule2035

Ай бұрын

Flemish nationalism is a fools errant anyway, at least in it's current form (i.e forming a new sovereign state disconnected from Belgium), the EU's policy on a brand new sovereign state is total diplomatic reset, meaning flanders will be totally economically isolated from the rest of Europe, and if the far right are leading this independence, the EU will be hesitant to allow flanders in due to the tendency of far right forces to undermine EU law and standards

The NVA has pushed for independence as well, they’ve long argued that independence is inevitable but that in the meantime confederalism is the most viable option. Make no mistake, they want the same as the VB. It used to be openly stated on their website, probably still is.

@gunterification

Ай бұрын

I hope they get the majority together with VB then we can end this nightmare once and for all.

@oddtherapy8919

Ай бұрын

@@gunterification I'd rather we stick together and work towards a better future but I don't see either of our politicians bothering to fix the cultural mess we're in.

@TheRocco96

Ай бұрын

NVA is Flemish in name only. They want to cooperative with the Wallonian socialist party, to keep everything as is, and keep the money-grabbing culture alive.

@CaribouEno

Ай бұрын

@@gunterification The nightmare than begins. Flanders would be out of the EU. New admission will fail because of a veto of Spain. Every blocade of access to Brussels would be replied by troops. It would be the nightmare for Flanders and another war in Europe.

@kleintje-ts6od

Ай бұрын

@@CaribouEno and we know that vlaams belang is nothing more than a putin fan club.

As a Belgian and living in Flanders, I 100% want us to separate from the rest of the country, which is a parody of itself and a joke. All the illegal inmigrants and lobbyists can stay in Brüssels and other areas. Leave us alone and in peace in our region (hopefully, soon our own country with our own people).

I work for a federal agency in Brussels, but was born and raised in Flanders. Grew up with everything that's culturally Flemish. At work, I work alongside Walloons every day. I hardly notice any cultural differences between us. I'd say it's only the language. I admit that my French is horrible, but that hardly prevents me from communicating or talking with my Walloon colleagues who try to meet in the middle and use some Dutch words they know. Or we just default to English if it gets difficult. So to hear older Flemish people, who also tend to vote Vlaams Belang, say that we should separate because Walloons are too different is plain annoying. Just go to a pub or frituur with a Walloon and you'll immediately see we're both Belgian.

@mayastic9570

Ай бұрын

I've noticed the same. I've hung out with walloons at conventions, we mostly spoke english but culturally and behaviorly we where more similar to eachother than to the french or dutch. If Belgium ends up splitting it would be more logical to make flanders a part of Germany than The Netherlands since we only have our language in common with the lather but our behavior is much closer to that of the former. I'd rather not see a split tho.

@jorgen8630

Ай бұрын

The only divide we have is a political, linguistic and economic divide. People who say that Flanders has to merge with the Netherlands also don't realise that there is a big culture difference. There is a reason that we aren't already merged into 1 nation as it used to be for a short time. Same could be said about France and Wallonia. The only region in France that has some cultural connection with Flanders is the French-Flanders region. But that is dying out too by time. Which comes out to my final conclusion, If the government could unite into 1 federal goverment there would be allot less trouble and divide created. The only thing that would divide us then is language and maybe economy.

@TheShadowOfZama

Ай бұрын

@@jorgen8630 Your solution is to go back to the old model that a mjority of people grew to despise which is the very reason why they changed it? Always love hearing those solutions! (That's sarcasm by the way) Not to mention you assume that a split automatically means joining up with somebody else and that if Flanders was to join up with the Netherlands (which I am not saying it should) we wouldn't be able to grow towards each other?

@TheShadowOfZama

Ай бұрын

Funny because I know plenty of cases where the Walloons and the Flemish working for the federal agencies in Brussels do not get along. Using your logic I am fairly certain I could go to the border regions and find a Flemish person and a Dutch person who will tell me we belong together because they're the best of friends.

@jorgen8630

Ай бұрын

@@TheShadowOfZama Getting along with someone doesn’t mean you can coexist with eachother. I personally have a hard time accepting the harshness of Dutch culture. We have little to nothing in common with eachother.

With Belgium, it seems to me that you´ll end up with a de jure Belgian state, but in practise, there will be so much devolution to Wallonia, Bruxelles and Flanders respectively that it might as well be three states in practise. If Flanders officially separated, they would have to apply again to join the EU, or alternatively join the Netherlands and it´s not as if a country that small could have an effect on foreign policy anyway, so you might as well just go for "Devo-Max". It´s funny, I am much more like the Wallonians and inhabitants of Brussels politically, I´m left wing, etc, but I do think that it´s stupid that so many Wallonians repeatedly refuse to learn Dutch, I mean they are the majority of people in your country. It´s ridiculous that it isn´t obligatory in schools in Wallonia and you can´t be expected to be taken seriously. I say this completely despising Vlaams Belang and disliking the NVA. Likewise, it´s ridiculous that Belgium has had prime ministers like Elio Di Rupio, who can´t speak the language of 60% of the country, that´s absolutely absurd and nobody should be taken seriously in politics if they can´t even take that step. French speakers can´t complain that they aren´t getting federal jobs etc, if they won´t do that, or that people would prefer to hire flemmings who are often much more multilingual.

@CaribouEno

Ай бұрын

The Dutch do not want Flanders, as they refused already once to live under the Dutch royals ;-) Also France does not want Wallonia.

@JBinero

Ай бұрын

@@CaribouEno The majority of Dutch people are in favour of annexing Flanders, but very few people in Flanders are. This is polled every few years. In Belgium we have a saying "tellen op zijn Hollands", which translates to "Dutch-style counting". During the 15 years Belgium was part of the Netherlands the Dutch didn't count the Belgian votes against them, finding creative ways to bend the numbers.

@capusvacans

Ай бұрын

Flanders joining the netherlands, well that is a civil war waiting to happen.

@mandalfthewizard6079

Ай бұрын

Why would Flanders join The Netherlands? Different culture, language, values... This ain't 'The scramble of Belgium'

@thefaidan

Ай бұрын

@@mandalfthewizard6079same language, similar culture and values, lets not be delusional they are very similar and theres 0 animosity towards eachother

Serious question here. I notice almost all news channels refer to Right Wing groups as 'Far Right' or 'Hard Right' or 'Extreme Right'. Are there any 'Near Right' or 'Moderate Right' groups, or is 'Far Right' just an umbrella term for everyone who isn't Left or Centre?

@louisg6296

Ай бұрын

There is a center right and a "regular" right in every countries, and the news outlets refer to them as such, what do you mean ? (The German CDU is right and the FDP is center right, in France LR is right and Macron's party is center right, etc...)

@patricksheperd560

Ай бұрын

@@louisg6296 Okay, I just never seem to hear about them. It’s always Far Right being mentioned in the news.

@louisg6296

28 күн бұрын

@@patricksheperd560 Those "regular" right wings party are even in power in some countries (the conservatives in the UK, Macron in France). I think the far right might be more talked about since their growth is recent and impressive. And they usually perform well in the EU elections, hence why they are often mentionned.

@boilinghippo4468

20 күн бұрын

​@@louisg6296 Dumb thing is, that nearly none of those,,far right " partys is far right. At least they aint, if we're stuck with the classic definiton of far right, meaning fascism, nazism and ultranationalism.

@ErikBongers

9 күн бұрын

Christian and liberal (free market) parties are typically center right.. In Belgium, socialists are center left, the greens a bit further to the left and the Marxist party far left.

Finally a video about Belgium! 🇧🇪

@sebastianprimomija8375

Ай бұрын

More like a video about Flanders and Wallonia.

@soundscape26

Ай бұрын

@@sebastianprimomija8375 And which country do they belong to?

@LennertTale

12 күн бұрын

Germany. ​@@soundscape26

Kaiserreich reference

@artemuaxd

Ай бұрын

Of course, the HOI4 players are interested in real-world politics

@pep-qew1977

Ай бұрын

​@@artemuaxdyou mean Millenium Dawn Modern Day Mod politics.

@stellarisstrategy4488

Ай бұрын

How about Burgundian System? Welcome to a wonderful chicken farm :)

@pep-qew1977

Ай бұрын

@@stellarisstrategy4488 least insane hoi4 ideology

I feel like nearly 18 million people to the north of Flanders are like: are you going to finsh that? 👀

I lived in Belgium for about three years. There is a stark difference between the Flanders and Wallonia. I could always tell when I crossed over from one to another just from the cleanliness of the streets. The streets in Flanders were usually much cleaner.

@user-rn2zb6be1u

Ай бұрын

*"DOH!"* - Homer Simpson

@2carlosa

Ай бұрын

Ah yes, I have the same opinion as a tourist interested in Belgium 😬. A lot of underexplored potential in Wallonia though. Even in Charleroi 😉

@My_Old_YT_Account

Ай бұрын

Same here in Canada with the Ontario/Québec border and toilets, toilets in Québec are clean while the Ontario ones are disgusting. We have a similar independence movement here as well.

@edarddragon

9 күн бұрын

you have wildly different transport structures also

One note to the editor : at 0:22 the OpenVLD (Liberal party) has been left out from the graph.

@KommuSoft

Ай бұрын

Probably because they are statistically insignificant in the polls 🤣 Just kidding.

@gertjanvandamme2068

Ай бұрын

accurate though

@Thibb_

Ай бұрын

@@KommuSoft That is a very common joke here, in newspapers and online articles alike

@prunomars1410

Ай бұрын

@@KommuSoft Though being the current prime minister's party ! Belgium is surreal

@zbynekurbanek3345

Ай бұрын

OpenVLD sounds like a sandwich name :P

No it won't. They have been saying this for 30 years and since then support for Flemish independence has only decreased.

@gertjanvandamme2068

Ай бұрын

flemish seperatism is so fucking low on their radar, they're a racist party first and foremost

@Haris1

Ай бұрын

do they even support Flemish Independace, I thought they supported the Greater Netherlands model

@WOLF36554

Ай бұрын

@@Haris1 That's even less popular. It's a very fringe idea and doesn't even get mentioned in mainstream politics.

@holygooff

Ай бұрын

@@Haris1 WTF dude. No one would ever want that. That has never been a popular idea.

@roejogan2693

Ай бұрын

​@@holygooff I want it 🥲

It was surprisingly well explained!

As Belgian, this is a well explained video. Well done.

I'm Belgian and I think that most people are just tired of the establishement and mass immigration. I mean you can see it's out of hand everywhere in the country with hundreds of agressions and knife attacks, which never happened at this scale before. If the Vlaams Belang was a "Belgisch Belang" it would instantly win in Wallonia too since there are merely no difference between the two parts of the country apart from the language.

@wimgeuens8433

Ай бұрын

And you think establishment will end once VB rules ? They've shown to be just more of the same. Mass immigration is always the mantra people keep buzzing about. Negative news (aka: knife attacks etc) sells for news outlets and with an interconnected world it's more easily available to know what happens everywhere. This has nothing to do with "muh migrants bad all agressive" but all to do with Flemish people looking for a scapegoat (as always) like they did with the Walloons 15 years ago and the Italians when they came to work in the mines. We've failed to take responsibility ourselves and keep blaming the "failed state" on everyone but ourselves and refuse to bring up proper solutions which will work for generations to come. (and closing borders is a solution which doesn't work and has been proven time and time again) All the right does it shout easy solutions to difficult problems to get everyone riled up. Life, and politics especially, are more complicated (as seen by how many parties we have and how long formations took) than shouting some slogans and throwing random numbers around (ex: Wallonia gets X amount from every Flemish working class person) because there's more to those numbers than 1 or 2 sentences can explain. It's actually disgusting that we as a society are so ill informed and vote people into power who have no real solutions to their problems. (look: Trump, Bolsanaro,...). I feel ashamed to see people I know and have as friends vote for bs because they refuse to read and learn anything at all and just listen to TikTok or news slogans. As something so profoundly important (the well-being of society on all possible levels) people remain so incredibly ignorant. Hasn't history taught people anything at all? And to say Belgium is (in a lot of ways) one of the best countries to live (standard of living) and a big portion of the nation wants to see this completely ruined/destroyed. June will be black day in history and I hope people either learn from it or I won't be around by then to see what ignorance does to humanity and society.

@Wokoman1

Ай бұрын

In which universe does this happen? There are as many crazy 'eigen volkers' as criminal migrants, and there are as much decent newcomers as there are decent old Belgians. You just put them all at the same level to justify your latent racism.

@jokbok995

Ай бұрын

People vote for Vlaams Belang Because of migration as a protest vote but Vlaams belang won’t rule because they said they would only rule too form a Flemish government and not a federal one

@allenk6373

13 күн бұрын

Oh shut up Then why did not you bring all the Russian and belorussuan refugees? That were running from war and failed revolution? Guess what in countries that did invite them Georgia Armenia Kazakhstan They opened lots of businesses And paying taxes And benefiting the economy And giving locals jobs Why did you bring Syrians but not Russians?

@allenk6373

13 күн бұрын

And there no high crime rate in Georgia Armenia Kazakhstan Uzbekistan Mainly places where Russian refugees go The crime rate is not increase a bit So that is your fault you EU hypocrites

Very good analysis of the split of Belgium, except for the omission of the key point: Brussels! Could Flanders and Wallonia reach a deal on the assignation of Brussels? And the EU? Would the EU agree to have Brussels in Flanders?

"fun" fact: The flags that these people are waving shown in the fragments are NOT the official Flemish flag. But an adaptation of a battle flag mainly used by World Word 2 collaborators and since adopted as the "Flemish movement flag". Minor, but politically import distinction.

Very good summary of Belgian/Flemish politics from the perspective of an insider. Well done!

As a Southern Dutch person (North-Brabant) I for one welcome our new Flemish overlords.

@quintiax

Ай бұрын

Excellent, as a Flemish person I'd say let's start on the paperwork for your ascension to the union.

@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva

Ай бұрын

@@quintiax Ik lik nog liever de kauwgom van de tafels van een middelbare school voor ik onderdeel ga worden van een dysfunctioneel sociaal construct met de naam "België". België barst - De Nederlanden één!

@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva

Ай бұрын

@@quintiax Ik lik nog liever de banden van een bus voor ik vrijwillig in een sociaal construct met de naam "België" stap. België barst - De Nederlanden één!

@Baddy187

Ай бұрын

​@@quintiaxCommon sense would tell the Vlemish to join The Kingdom of The Netherlands. But seeing how bad our Dutch politics has been post-WW2, I would gladly kiss the ring of my new Vlemish master.

@Corbalte

Ай бұрын

@@Baddy187 Except this won't happen. Noord Brabant can join Flanders tho

The specter of Belgium breaking apart has been on the agenda since the seventies. It’s a bit like independence of Quebec, much talked about but never happens, because all parties have too much to lose…

@mradventurer8104

Ай бұрын

EU never happened until it happened! Belgium breaking apart can happen and it was only before 1830 ,which is a tiny period in terms of history, when part of Belgium was part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. As a Dutch person I am in favor of Flanders joining the Netherlands.

@marcelroy6034

Ай бұрын

@@mradventurer8104 Except the Flemish don’t want, I guess you didn’t get the memo

@marcelroy6034

Ай бұрын

@@mradventurer8104and the kicker is that the walloons would love to join France, except France in turn doesn’t know or care….

@Elujins

6 күн бұрын

I use to think so too but then Brexit happened and that is a comparable situation.

Brussels is a bilingual city split between Arabic and Turkish

@MadeAnAccountOnlyToReplyToThis

Ай бұрын

kek

@1001Balance

Ай бұрын

Heb je dat zelf uitgevonden? Knap hoor. Niveau 😂😂😂😂

Good video.

Seriously. The world predicts our split since our independance but we are still here.

I have to give it to Belgium: it is I think the only country in the world with two different about equally sized populations that has never seen a civil war, terrorist bombings or genocides.

@belstar1128

Ай бұрын

this country seems to have infinite luck .

@tack7577

Ай бұрын

We have seen terrorist attacks. Remember the bombings on 22/03/2016 at Brussels Airport

@musicreader4291

Ай бұрын

Well, imagine, during clashes between French speakers and Flemish people in a small village in the 70s, a guy shot in the air!

@Johnny-Thunder

Ай бұрын

@@tack7577 Ah yes but that was jihadistic terrorism. What I meant was violence between Flemish and Walloons...

@MathyBoonen

Ай бұрын

​@@Johnny-Thunderit doesn´t happen. We have our differences. But why hate people because of a different language?

[Please note: Catalonia, Corsica, Scotland and N-Ireland are all minorities; Flanders is the majority (60%) within Belgium.] In 1830, the French-speaking part of The Netherlands ended this 15-year union (formed after Napoleon's Waterloo). They tried to re-attach the catholic provinces to France but Britain (and others) forced Belgium into independence. It then took the politicians a whopping 136 years (!) to publish an official Dutch version (in 1967) of the Constitution - even though the Flemish make up 60% of the population and Dutch is thus the country's first language. Just three years later (1970), the Constitution was changed to undermine this Flemish majority and in 1980, the current structure (which you explained well) was implemented. The French-speaking elite want to keep the power to continue spending Flemish tax money (70% of taxes and 80% of export, with 60% of population) on their voters in Wallonia and Brussels. As is visible on maps, Brussels was stolen from Flanders, although said elite see it the other way round - Jules Destrée wrote already in 1912: "Ils nous ont pris la Flandre." ("They took Flanders from us.") Even with Flemish tax money, every year Brussels and Wallonia borrow even more money. Their public debt will soon be 200% and 300%, respectively. "Confederalism" mainly is a way to make every political entity financially responsible for its own decisions and could stabilize Belgium for the next 200 years. If not, the Flemish majority (remember the 60/70/80 percentages earlier) will choose independence. Funny how "No taxation without representation" is still true...

Conclusie: we gaan weer een nieuwe mix hebben, met iets meer geel, en niks veranderd. Teveel politiekers in de regering net als vorige keer en de keer ervoor. En onze belastingen gaan zeker niet omlaag. Maar tzonneke schijnt dus geniet ervan.

De ironie dat de meesten van ons die hier reageren Vlamingen zijn, maar allemaal in het Engels schrijven.

@IlanMuskbruh

Ай бұрын

Inderdaad, maar ook wel logisch aangezien dat dit een Engels kanaal is, Vlaams Belang #1

@Captionthiss

Ай бұрын

@@IlanMuskbruh vlaams belang nummer 0

@MC-BOT

Ай бұрын

​@@Captionthiss haha you're so triggered

@loca7119

Ай бұрын

🖤💛🖤💛​@@Captionthiss

@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva

Ай бұрын

Grappig. Ik probeerde gister in het Nederlands te typen en al m'n berichten werden gecensureerd door KZread. Geweldig systeem is er gecreëerd inmiddels als ik niet eens één bericht kan achterlaten. 🙃

Quick sidenotes: the coalition after the 2019 election was created hastely after Covid struck. It does not contain the 2 parties with the highest votes, instead all the other parties ganged up. The fact that NVA is advocating conferalism is only pragmatic. We also want a complete split, but will settle for more authonomy.

Congratulations from your simple and clear explanation . I am Belgian and it it difficult sometimes to explain my country political situation

"far right" "far right" "far right" "far right"

@kevinderoo3880

5 күн бұрын

They f*ck everything up

PLEASE! Stop calling everything opposed to the progressive left as "far-right." Calling everything "far-right" or "alt-right" has completely erroded the meaning.

One note: we do not have mandatory voting, we do have mandatory "showing up at the polls" (opkomstplicht/compulsory attendance) but that doesn't have the same ring to it. You don't need to vote when you show up at the polls, but a vast majority do because well... you're already there. Some people might find it undemocratic, and I say: we have 90% voter turnout, so you can't argue with the results.

@leeroyjenkins0

Ай бұрын

By that definition, no democracy has mandatory voting. Voting blank is always an option, the contrary would require checking your vote, which would easily lead to it not being a democracy.

@quintiax

Ай бұрын

@@leeroyjenkins0 Well... there's no mandatory voting. If you show up to the voting booth you've done your civil duty.

@adenrius

Ай бұрын

All countries should do the same in my opinion.

@petero6471

Ай бұрын

And from this year on even this compulsory attendence is abolished at the local council level at least in Flanders. No sure about Wallonia.

@quintiax

Ай бұрын

@@petero6471 In my opinion it's mostly done for political babysitting. OpenVLD was able to claim a 'victory' and it was a bone the N-VA was willing to give them to keep them in line. I do worry about the consequences, as we have no tradition of convincing people to go to the polls, nor the required infrastructure to organise such activities. Let's hope that people do their duty and that we don't see

What never made sense to me as a Belgian, is why, in the national elections, I can only vote for the parties of my region. How is it a national election when I don’t have all the national choices?

I'm Belgian. Last week, a friend of mine was violently beaten by specific people It happens all the time, and not just in Belgium. That's the reason people vote far-right.

@soundscape26

Ай бұрын

But that doesn't have to do with splitting Belgium in particular.

@narthex1681

Ай бұрын

@@soundscape26 No, but it just so happens that the far-right party is also the separatist one. I believe more people want the security issue to be solved rather than to split the country

@cidadedeus397

Ай бұрын

Most people who vote for vlaams belang dont care about flemish independence at all. Studies have proven this.

@My_Old_YT_Account

Ай бұрын

The cultural enrichment people? The independence movement in Québec similarly is growing partly because of them and their deeds

@hismajesty6272

Ай бұрын

Same goes for the United States, and I can’t blame anyone for it.

7:01 why did you put MR in yellow and NVA in blue I'm so confused :D (also DéFI should be purple and CD&V orange)

@JBinero

Ай бұрын

N-VA is a member of the ECR, and MR is a member of the ALDE. The colours are the colours of their mother parties, which is more relevant for international audiences.

Term far right have lost all meaning. Nowadays it can mean anything from I don't like you to neo nazis

Very well done. I think you're the only KZread channel who did the topic right. No dramatizing no fear mongering, only objective and neutral truth. Unlike other youtube channels

@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva

Ай бұрын

The title in itself is dishonest, what are you on about 😂

@neoderidder7734

Ай бұрын

@@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva the title isn't but the thumbnail might be. I was talking about the video tho. Nowadays every youtube channel has some kind of clickbait.

@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva

Ай бұрын

@@neoderidder7734 Oh no, the title _certainly_ is dishonest. Using terms like "far right" isn't just overused - it's downright dishonest. Vlaams Belang is a *nationalist* party, not a "far right" party. By their logic, the PVDA is far left but they certainly didn't bother to name that. But you're right about the thumbnail - you can't exactly secede from a nation that never existed in the first place. I'd say it's a reuniting with the Netherlands, if anything. Cheers.

@neoderidder7734

Ай бұрын

@@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva They are stated as extreme right on government and news sites like VRT its even on their wikipage. They probably didn't talk much about pvda because VB is the main focus of the video Also I'd rather kms then join the dutchies and im sure the waloons think the same about france.

@boilinghippo4468

20 күн бұрын

​@@neoderidder7734 Wow. Some media are sluring partys they dont like as far right so it must be true. 🤡 You re really that gay? Far right means fascism, ultranationalism and nazism. Nothing of it VB stands for.

As a tourist who really likes Belgium, I think the greatest issue starts with language barriers. Also, it's a night and day difference in terms of culture when going south. Having said that, the greatest strenght of Belgium is this mix of pro-economy of Flanders, while keeping a great social safety net.

Biggest problem in our country are not the differences between the regions, but more the abundance of dimwitted politicians..😅

Brussels bilingual? Last week when I visited it was just French 😂😂😂

@DenUitvreter

Ай бұрын

I guess you avoided a lot of neighbourhoods, wisely.

So the short answer is: No, they won't. The longer one is: I am Belgian and live in south part (french part), my sister is in a couple with a flemish (north part) and we always talk about politics during meetings (which obviously is the best idea to keep being united lol) and we've talked about this many times. It is just a political vision enhanced by fiery and divisive speeches but it's only speaking to a very minor part of people. We just know those guys do it for political power and not for our own good and so we've decided for the most part to ignore it. AT LEAST a quarter (official numbers) don't go to vote even if it is MANDATORY (yes, it's a duty, not a right in here). "Unity is strength" is the motto of Belgium, although it of course isn't true everyday, we tend to stay together cause we're tiny so we resist better.

I feel like we have this discussion every month or two.

5:11 Cordon sanitaire doesn't apply to Sweden anymore. Following the 2018 elections, parties to the right started talks with the Sweden Democrats. First the Christian Democrats, then The Moderates, and finally The Liberals. Following the 2022 election, These centre-right to right parties formed a government with support of the Sweden Democrats in parliament. SD isn't in the government, but wields a lot of influence as the largest of the four parties.

Belgium mentioned!!1!!

As a dutchie i always wondered if belgians wouldn't prefer having the north merge with holland and the south with france

As someone from Belgium who follows politics quite closely: excellent video. I would add that independence isn’t really the driving factor that pushes people to VB. I think if you would poll that party’s voters separately independence would not be a hot topic either. Ps: the Flemish region government and Flemish speaking community government are fused into one government. That’s why we have 6 and not 7. They are also all on the same level of power.

As a Belgian, I'm foremost Belgian. I wouldn't like a separate state. Having said that, the political system has to change to unify us.

@mayastic9570

Ай бұрын

I agree but good luck getting anywhere near achieving that 😵‍💫 How often I hear people say "we need to stop sending all our money to walonie" While it's the split governments that are creating these numbers. Nobody would complain about money for infrastructure and social programs going to the people who need them if it's a federal structure and nobody is keeping track of how much money crosses the imaginary border.

When i see "far right" in the media today, i immediately think they're moderate conservatives. So much hyperbole in todays news

@soundscape26

Ай бұрын

So you deny the existence of true far-right movements? I can tell them apart from moderate conservatives.

@brodieobrien-pickering2202

Ай бұрын

@soundscape26 I did not say that. There are far right movements, just like there's far left. I said when I see something called far right, I judge it as normal conservatism until I see more information, due to the bias of modern media.

@My_Old_YT_Account

Ай бұрын

​@@soundscape26maybe news organisations should hire you, as they sure fucking can't

@boilinghippo4468

20 күн бұрын

​@@soundscape26 Strawmen. Try better, fa¶¶ot. ^^

Being from Belgium, I can confirm the accuracy of this story. Well done, TLDR! It is really not simple to get things right from a disturbingly complex country such as Belgium! (nevertheless, Belgium remains a stable country with a strong economy. You gotta do it!)

1.013 / 5.000 good analysis. some additional things perhaps that may be underexposed: Since we are a federation, it is important to understand that someone from Flanders cannot vote for a party from Wallonia and vice versa. This de facto means that we are two democracies that always have to be drawn up to form a federal government. Considering that in Wallonia people vote left-wing to communist and in Flanders center-right and today even the extreme right, this sum will become impossible. A co-federal model where each region can act according to its own insights (migration, economy, social security, etc.) would solve many problems. Wallonia has been adhering to the left-wing socialist policy for decades, this is only possible because there is a 3rd payer: Flanders. Over the past 15 years, the federal government has consisted of a government with a Flemish minority for 10 years! Strange for a region that has 60% of the population, 85% of exports and is responsible for 75% of the economy. People in Flanders are tired of that.

As a Belgian exceptionally well explained, one minor gripe is that the cordon sanitaire applies to both extreme rigt and left, hence VB and PVDA cant form coalitions with other parties.

@boilinghippo4468

20 күн бұрын

PVDA and VB aint extreme.

@ytwardep4702

10 күн бұрын

@@boilinghippo4468 they are radical

@boilinghippo4468

10 күн бұрын

​@@ytwardep4702 We' re not talking about,, radical".

When I hear Flanders I just think of “Come out ye Black and Tans”…

@nightcrwler1973

10 күн бұрын

They're the british of belgium

@nightcrwler1973

10 күн бұрын

They completely destroyed the Brussels regional political institutions

Belgian here: we don't want all these politicians but we can't get rid of them

As a Belgian (flemish) I'm very impressed at how well you understand the politics. better than most people I know.

Flanders is a wonderful place. Thanks for the video

@nightcrwler1973

10 күн бұрын

It's horrible. It's beautiful, but the people are just nightmare. A friend of mine from Congo who both worked and studied there has always been checked in trains (having paid tickets mind you), but she alone is asked. Also she gets weird looks all the time, even I feel uncomfortable with this. No, seriously flemish peeps are unhinged and not in a good way

Good video. Last December, I marked 40 years living in Belgium and working for the EU (EEC before 1992 for pedants😊). During all that time, both Belgium and the EU have allegedly been on the point of collapse. It has never happened and in my view never will.

@JBinero

Ай бұрын

The idea of Belgium collapsing has never been native to Belgium. It has always been external to the country. The idea of Flemish independence was introduced by the German occupier in WW1.

The only part of Belgium they are not willing to cut off are taxes.

I am belgian, the reasons are, without any exagerations : - belgian people have a middle age mentality - french people (south, wallonie) having the same mentality as our French neighbour, they don't care about the rest of the world and only speak french - and like everywhere else, too much immigration

Brussels bilingual 😂😂 i have lived in Brussels for 20 years and have never had someone speak to me in Flemish. It is French, then English spoken here. The so called Flemish zones Krainem, Wezembeek may have flemish communes but everyday language spoken is majority French. If you come to live in Brussels and you only speak Dutch, you are going to find it difficult.

@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva

Ай бұрын

S P R E E K N E D E R L A N D S

@houseplant1016

Ай бұрын

Inderdaad haha de cijfers liegen niet, Vlamingen zijn meer tweetalig dan de Brusselaars zelf.

@crash.override

Ай бұрын

Guess the "Gekoloniseerd" failed in Brussels

@thefaidan

Ай бұрын

it said officially billingual so all signage, admin, public transport, education is billingual, whats spoken on the street doesnt negate that. and the so called flemish zones are literally the communes part of flanders where everything from admin to education is dutch again regardless of whats spoken on the street

@pauli2169

Ай бұрын

@@HighFlyingOwlOfMinervawhy? It is a dying language

Important to mention! Currently, a lot of belgians are unsatisfied with the current government and parties and are therefore threatening to cast a 'protest vote' for Vlaams Belang, which is also why they are polling so high. Now, whether they will actually do that in the elections, is unknown, so polling numbers might be a bit misleading at the moment.

@TheSpeep

Ай бұрын

Its like they say "fascism is the socialism of fools"; When the system isnt working, people will move toward the extremes of the political spectrum, and generally the far right has an easier time attracting people by playing to their base insecurities, while the left often struggles at this.

I was in the North and South of Belgium about 10 years ago , when the country was run by a temp (2yrs+) government, which just followed the letter of the law for every major decision. Everyone agreed that was the only time the country functioned properly, without the Flemish/French divide. Just look again what your constitution says.

@TheShadowOfZama

Ай бұрын

Correction: it wasn't working properly in those days either, it was just less dysfunctional than usual which of course looks incredibly good in comparison. Same way a 4/10 looks good when everyone else gets a 1/10.

Have you TLDR gave up on Twitter? I saw you guys have not posted anything since past year!

How come Switzerland doesn't have these issues?

@martinvandenbroek2532

Ай бұрын

Switzerland is a confederation and there is not that much animosity between the different language groups. Due to historic reasons there is a lot of animosity between the language groups in Belgium.

"Well, not really, highly unlikely" as always lol.

Most Flemish don't want to split Belgium, they want to stop the flow of money to the French speaking part and want to change the flood of immigration.

One of the big reasons for Vlaams Belang 's growth that wasn't mentioned here is the fact that many people are fed up with the Vivaldi government, it has done more harm than good for the country. Vlaams Belang isn't in that government and is promising major changes if it gets into power. So naturally many people (especially the younger generations) are going to support them.

It is not FAR right if it just want's to defend it's cultural values. If anything, the term "far-right" is so watered down nowadays, that anyone leaning center rather that being 100% left is seen as a "far right"

Belgium has thebest healthcare in the world but the worst politicians 1:41

@wojciechpiosik302

Ай бұрын

The best healthcare? Haha

Greetings from Québec to my European independentist friends!

You did a great job explaining this mess! After 4 decades in this country I can tell you a lot will be said, yet nothing will change. *Side note: Brussels being bilingual in French and Arab.

Simply putting ‘cordon sanitaire’ on screen with no additional articulation of its meaning doesn’t actually do anything to aid viewer understanding; in the future, put a little definition blurb underneath the word being referenced on-screen for the sake of enriched consideration of your analysis by the audience. Just my two cents.

@lxndrlbr

Ай бұрын

It's French for (direct translation) "sanitary barrier" but was simply explained afterward as a pledge by other parties to NOT engage with anybody from that party. I find this attitude problematic in a democracy, as if some electors and representatives were sick and contagious, but it is true that they are often demagogues who will instrumentalize any event to raise tensions and only point to the dumbest "solution" to "fix" a complex situation. 😢 People's appetite for simple solutions should be addressed head-on and chided as something only children and silly persons would look for: adults need to know that complicated systems require careful analysis and unbiased recommendations. Looking at you, Brexit!

let me tell you something having maritime access is worth fighting for

@sdb2885

Ай бұрын

Fighting requires effort, effort is like work, work is not what they like to do in Wallonia XD

@mehmetcengiz3583

Ай бұрын

@@sdb2885 😅

One could apply the same question regarding the the future of the United Kingdom as Nationalist parties lead the polls in two of the Devolved Nations ,the SNP in Scotland and Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland.

I'm so tired of leftwing news outlets calling everything they disagree with "Far Right". I originally started watching TDLR because I wanted an informed unbiased source on European politics/news. I saw them shift left for a while now, while still trying to claim to be neutral. This video was my final straw. I'm unsubscribing.

I occasionally wonder if Vlaams Belang is to Vlaams Blok what Rassemblement National is to Front National - a sort of more 'acceptable' re-packaging. Please correct me, anyone, if that statement is mistaken.

@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn

Ай бұрын

Yeah, they´re the same party, just renamed

@Vlamyncksken

5 күн бұрын

Vlaams Blok was indeed just the old name of Vlaams Belang. VB's standpoint is more against illegal or otherwise legal mass migration, which makes it "far right" for some reason

@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn

5 күн бұрын

@@Vlamyncksken No, it´s far right because they seem to like the idea of a Flemish nazi state, and were advocating that openly until very recently.

@christopherbentley7289

5 күн бұрын

@@Vlamyncksken Generally, any party which takes a stance against mass migration in an identitarian context - ie., that it is an existential threat to the indigenous population's very identity - is correctly Far Right. It's an unarguable fact.

@moery2435

5 күн бұрын

@@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn Ah classic anti-VB sentiment, that we are all nazi's yes? You don't agree with us, I don't care but do not try to brand us as nazi's.

Can you make a new video about Romania 🇷🇴 and Moldova 🇲🇩.

@xdr98746

Ай бұрын

Pointlessness

"The party's rise prompts a few obvious questions" Yet you show a graph where they seem to have a very stable line for the past 4 years.

As a Flemish here, NVA and Vlaams Belang want flemish independence or at least confederalism. Flanders pays about 12 billion to wallonia every year. Independence is very unlikely but confederalism seems inevitable since wallonia wants a socialistic government and Flanders wants a nationalistic/liberal government in general. Unlike wat most Belgians in the comments say, the Flemish really want to split the country and the Wallonians want to unite the nation again.

@jokbok995

Ай бұрын

😂 research Saïd that majority wouldn’t support a split

mable because I am biased because I am Dutch, But I am all for a greater Netherlands.

@Eugensson

Ай бұрын

BeNeLux already exists

@guccikip3055

Ай бұрын

As a Belgian i definately Prefer being in a country with you guys instead of the French xD but I definately don't want An independent flanders though

@stefrob

Ай бұрын

oh no you are not biased at all, what on earth would make you say that

@larsO204

Ай бұрын

I don't want to import even more of far right problems

@alexisbelfer7881

Ай бұрын

@@guccikip3055 Why do the french side of belgium don't wanna rejoin France? I am french and have no clue so i was wondering if you could enlighten me.

Just to make things clear NVA DOES push for independence, they just say they want confederalisme as a sort of pretext for independence. Also, i'm kind of suprised you didn't mention the typical "Flanders is right-wing, Wallonia is left-wing". But explaining that would make the video longer.

Why did you omit Open-VLD on the poll results?

Monarchy, football, beer and chocholate are what keeping Belgium together.