Europe's Separatist States: Every Place Trying to Escape - TLDR News
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Europe is full of unhappy regions, places trying to escape from their own country. So in this video we run through all the regions which have major separatist movements, areas which would rather rule themselves than continue with the status quo.
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CORRECTIONS: (1) At 5:15 we say 'only a slight majority [in Bornholm] want independence', when we meant minority (2) At 6:30 was say that 'more than 8 million people claimed Silesian identity in the 2011 Polish census', when we meant 800,000 Both of these were typos on the writer's part (Zac/me, the guy writing this comment), so apologies for that; we'll try our best to improve in the future
@santiagoalcantara3806
Жыл бұрын
You forget about Corsica independence movement
@DeaTheBitch
Жыл бұрын
At least Ur publishing a correction rather than shifting the blame to "bad info" or "fake rumours"
@alin-mihai
Жыл бұрын
also, half a century not half a decade for the Basque Country
@yatokuwastaken
Жыл бұрын
Also, Orban isn't a president, he's a Prime Minister.
@hsavietto
Жыл бұрын
9:58 you used Catalonia's flag to talk about an independence referendum in Basque Country (although the same thing happened in Catalonia around the same time, so I understand the source of the confusion). Besides, you said ETA fought a guerrilla war with Spain for "half a decade", when I think you meant "half a century".
How could you miss Corsica, who actually became the first European modern democracy during its short lived independence, and which is still to this day so riddled with a violent independentist movement that it has the highest murder rate per capita in Europe (source : BBC news). 3 out of our 4 representatives at the national legislative chamber of France are from the independentist party. We have our own assembly, a separate tax status from the rest of France, and even Macron is now adopting a politic in favor of more autonomy in order to quench Corsican’s thirst for independence. I love you guys, but that’s a pretty big miss.
@rezzoc91
Жыл бұрын
Comme zeneise v'acciammo scusa e perdon pe quello che i mæ antighi i v'an fæto. Solitarietæ ligure a-a Còrsega
@level_breaded5364
Жыл бұрын
Genoa: we’re about lose this island Also Genoa: *hey France*
@rezzoc91
Жыл бұрын
@@level_breaded5364 we're based what can we do BeLIN
@Klaus1251
Жыл бұрын
Surprised as well - i am Dutch and did not know about half of these movements. But I did miss Corsica. And Cyprus.
@davidcolin6519
Жыл бұрын
@Joshua Walker Such a mature response... not. Every time I see a video about some independence movement or other I desperately hope that the childish/ignorant or just plain stupid comments won't be there, and that an adult discussion can be held. And, of course, I am always disappointed. Your pathetic attempt at humour apparently amuses you, but you are literally the only one.
I think TLDR have fallen victim to Danish humor. Faroe islands definitely have a real independence movement - and they will definitely achieve it in our lifetime. But a lot of Danish islands and region in Denmark "proper" have joke independence movements. Vendsyssel (the northern part of the Jutland peninsula) had a big joke independence party back in the 90's. The funny part is, that you actually missed the biggest real separatist movement in all of Danish territory: Greenland, which is a very active and extremely interesting situation, that deserves an episode of its own
@jonasnee
Жыл бұрын
"and they will definitely achieve it in our lifetime" doubtful.
@cmecoo3109
Жыл бұрын
Greenland is(geographically at least) in North America, not Europe, that's why they didn't talk about it
@radarbug5390
Жыл бұрын
Greenland isn’t in Europe
@R3troguy
Жыл бұрын
Faroe islander here: Definitely maybe, in like 50 years hvfdr
@michiganmapping3597
Жыл бұрын
Greenland is in North America tho
I can't wrap my mind about excluding nearly all of the Balkans (Bosnia, Kosovo) and even Transnistria, but mentioning Bavaria, which isn't even a thing.
@commentarytalk1446
Жыл бұрын
Over-compensation for burying "sensitive" movements states probably don't want mentioning.
@novacentorium4943
Жыл бұрын
Kosovo and transmistria can’t really be considered since they’re already de facto independent, but Sprska could be on here ig
@gothicgolem2947
Жыл бұрын
As someone else said Transnistria and Kosovo are already independent in reality and I would add Kosovo is actually recognised by a ton of countries as well. Also they said the movements they know of so maybe they don’t know of the Bosnian ones. Also your telling me no one on Bavaria has ever wanted independence?
@zefix3
Жыл бұрын
This. Bavarian independence is not even a joke anymore, it's an absolutely irrelevant topic.
@cormoranuud
Жыл бұрын
The video was dedicated to cover EU states.
Feel like if you're gonna use a map with Serbia owning Kosovo it's pretty ironic not to include them as a separatist movement.
@natnew32
Жыл бұрын
Didn't count partially recognized states. See: Transnistria.
@RussianNationalist
Жыл бұрын
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@zynga.94
Жыл бұрын
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@RussianNationalist
Жыл бұрын
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@zynga.94
Жыл бұрын
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Uh, no Republika Srpska? Things are getting quite heated here in the Balkans over this issue.
@kieranwalsh2058
Жыл бұрын
He could probably make a separate video just for the balkans tbh
@hiroklobus87
Жыл бұрын
@@kieranwalsh2058 ...or 2, or 10 Balkan is complicated to put it mildly.
@mikeoxlong906
Жыл бұрын
Long live 🇧🇦
@bandvitromania9642
Жыл бұрын
Oh yea Bosnia... How could someone forget Bosnia?
@HarisP000
12 күн бұрын
Things have been "getting heated" since the 1990's, there is no independence movement, just a politician who plays the nationalist card whenever he's close to losing elections
You forgot Corsica. There is an independantist party in the island, even though they are far to be the majority. There was also some sort different liberations armies which used to be in competition, and perhaps related with mafias. But the attempt on Yvan Colonna' life (The murderer of prefet Erignac) in prison turned into violent reactions in the island.
@Soenglish44
Жыл бұрын
And brittany... I think they missed french sep mouvements altogether.
@01Chris02
Жыл бұрын
The Corsican independence movement is considerable, I surprised they forgot about this one.
@huquui8789
Жыл бұрын
@@Soenglish44 Brittany is not really trying to leave.
@Soenglish44
Жыл бұрын
@@huquui8789 well according to them bornholm isn't either sooo...
@tonyhawk94
Жыл бұрын
In the Corsican assembly the two main parties are autonomists (32 seats) and bonapartists (17 seats), the autonomists are not really rooting for independance, the Bonapartists are French patriots, but as well attached to their local culture.
You entirely forgot Corsica and Sardinia. Both regions have had a serious independence movement for decades. While the situation in Sardinia appears to be comparatively calm - with many Sardinians being proud of their region but also of their "Italianness" - situation in Corsica is more unstable. Sicilian indipendence has never been a thing, at least not in the last few decades. Sicily has no viable economy and no competent administrators, it wouldn't survive without money from Rome. Sicilians know that all too well. An independence movement that is fairly in fashion is for the former Borbonic kingdom (the South of Italy, to make it simple) to be reinstated. Many people say that the kingdom was economically viable and that it became poor because of the centralised government in Rome robbing them of money and resources.
@willgreen9861
Жыл бұрын
'Sicily has no viable economy and no competent administrators, it wouldn't survive without money from Rome. Sicilians know that all too well. ' Sounds like Corsica to me
@NoName-hg6cc
Жыл бұрын
In the end no Italian, South or North, really wants to separate itself
@esti-od1mz
Жыл бұрын
Sicily would fairly survive. In fact, Sicily gives to the central government almost the same money as the funds it recives as being a Region. Also, Sicilian separatism was always a thing(and it was among the strongest in Italy), but it has shrinked since some decades.
@reno.zed1
Жыл бұрын
Sardinia doesn't have a serious separatist movement for decades.
@NoName-hg6cc
Жыл бұрын
@@esti-od1mz How? Sicily actually takes more money than it gives. And Sicilian separatism wan't really a thing
Most Serbs in Republika Srpska and Croats in Herzegovina both want outright session from Bosnia and Herzegovina, and, to either join Serbia (or Croatia) respectively, or to become completely independent states. Serbs in BiH are nearing the de-facto realization of this goal, given President Milorad Dodik, the Alliance of Independent Social Democrats, and their parliamentary allies successive efforts to withdraw the territory of Republika Srpska from the Judiciary, Tax Administration, and Military of Bosnia and Herzegovina’s central government. Unlike other independence movements, these efforts in the Balkans not only have a real chance of success, but are also likely to produce “explosive” consequences. I don’t know how you all missed the elephant in the room.
@luizmatthew1019
Жыл бұрын
Did Republika Srpska end up leaving the military or is that still being planned
@j.m.5642
Жыл бұрын
They gave up on that, it’s was just a stand-off and political show as always
@j.m.5642
Жыл бұрын
Real chances of success? Give me a break. I dont know if you are from the Balkans but if someone mentions the breakup of Bosnia its just for political points. RS has been announcing refrendums since 2008 and its a nothingburger.
@LaughingMan0X
Жыл бұрын
@@j.m.5642 they have as realistic a chance of secession as nearly every other region on this list.
@j.m.5642
Жыл бұрын
@@LaughingMan0X Agree - so none. The key difference between RS and the other regions is that Bavaria, Corsica, Istra etc. were not built on genocide and ethnic cleansing. In my view as someone from Bosnia even the existance of RS is like keeping the 3rd Reich and all of their symbolism and administration after WW2.
A couple of comments about the Danish separatists. The Danish government and public are not against Faroese independence, but the loss of Danish government fund would devastate the Faroese economy. There is an idea that the Faroes should have an economy that can survive independence, before it is declared. Also, Bornholm independence movements only exits on online lists of independence movements. To say that a majority of Bornholmers wants independence is plainly wrong. There is a Bornholm independence party, but they could not even gain a single seat in the local government. I would not even call Bornholm independence a joke, because not enough people would get it. Edit: I think the reason that he said majority must have been a script mistakes, because he says it later, when he clearly ment a minority. But i would not expect such clear mistakes to become published.
@liamhardman875
Жыл бұрын
Interesting info there. So in general the Danes seem more concerned with sorting Faroese economy first to make sure they're ready for independence? Quite strange, usually you'd see countries hold onto separatist areas for dear life.
@Inoffensive_name
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter. If the people who live there disagree, they should be allowed to go their own way.
@chadgaston8615
Жыл бұрын
That might be true there but Denmark keeps Greenland because its mining industry is located there.
@lassejensen5990
Жыл бұрын
They also forgot Christiania.
@pellept0327
Жыл бұрын
@@chadgaston8615 They could leave via referendum if they wanted as well.
I feel like there should've been mention of Veneto, Sardinia, and maybe even Corsica.
Including Istria (no real separatism here), but not Republika Srpska (BiH) with open and declared separatist goals by present leaders is an interesting choice :D
@j.m.5642
Жыл бұрын
Jedva si docekao da spomenes Sumsku jelde?
@dzenanbrkic9606
Жыл бұрын
That seperatist movement cant sucseed politicaly because Dayton shuts it down, RS even had a referendum for independence like 1y ago but the data is no where to be found because it was held just so Dodik could gain more love to keep being in power. With military actions it isnt impossible but they would need a lot of support from Serbia and even seperatists movements from Croats in the south because on their own they dont stand a chance, iako si svjestan toga vec
@biglebowsky6586
Жыл бұрын
@@dzenanbrkic9606 Lol Srpska never held a referendum for independence, it was referendum about having 9th january (day RS was founded) as a national holliday. Dude you dont know what the hell you are talking about 😂. Also if Serbia somehow gets militarly involved in Bosnia and NATO doesnt react, there wont be any Croat help needed belive me. Anyway i think and hope that military conflict is impossible.
@dzenanbrkic9606
Жыл бұрын
@@biglebowsky6586 that referendum took place in 2016, im talking about 1-2 ys ago😂
@biglebowsky6586
Жыл бұрын
@@dzenanbrkic9606 Yes you are even more wrong, there wasnt any referendum 1-2 years ago hahahah.
Honestly the South Schleswig Separatist/autonomy movement (in North Germany) is, even though still unlikely, much more likely to gain independence than Bavaria
@taladon6420
Жыл бұрын
Bavaria is never gonna get independent - it's a ridiculous claim
@JustFun-wl3jf
Жыл бұрын
Didn't hear anything about it
@angriffslusticherWildoger
Жыл бұрын
Germany will never allow Bavarian independence. Since this is where the nazis actually came from and after WW2 all the wealth was transferred from the North (especially Berlin) to the South, they will have to pay us for ever and longer 😂
@noobaction7720
Жыл бұрын
Never heard of it as someone living in Germany...
@timteichmann6830
Жыл бұрын
@@JustFun-wl3jf about what?
Silesia, believe it or not, does not want to break away from Poland.
@Krzysztof25XD
Жыл бұрын
@UCbxoIy3QnLDHxzdZEC2qwtQ The separatism in Upper Silesia is like 0,5%. It‘s just non-existent
@hannahg8439
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Most Germans who used to inhabit the region before WWII were expelled after Nazi Germany was defeated, so the people who live there now are predominantly of Polish ancestry and have a Polish identity. So why would TLDR list them in this video?
@hannahg8439
Жыл бұрын
@@Nkej1919 the numbers in favor of independence?
@hannahg8439
Жыл бұрын
@@Nkej1919 why do you want independence from Poland? Is your goal to rejoin Germany or to become an autonomous country?
@jurejs006
Жыл бұрын
It is autonomy movement, not separatist. He got everything wrong about it including flag
Putting Bavaria here is a bit odd, as no major party wants secession, it's a tiny splinter movement that's mostly voted as a means of protest
@melonlord1414
Жыл бұрын
Support for bavarian secession is probably higher outside of bavaria than in bavaria. Many people would love to get rid of the CSU
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
Жыл бұрын
@@melonlord1414 i mean... There is a lot of irrational and frankly unfair Bavaria hate... It being the state that basically finances half the other state together with Baden Württemberg. The CSU is also not ad stupid as the CDU. Söder is spineless, but I'd take him over Fritze Mertz every day of the week.
@stephanbrunker
Жыл бұрын
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 And there has to be a place where the traffic ministers come from who either ruin the German railwail or waste billions for a toll system only to get it declared illegal ...
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
Жыл бұрын
@@stephanbrunker dont you mean chief lobbyist for the automobile industry
Can't believe you didn't even mention Brittany, which has a very strong Celtic culture and own language and had a period of strong terrorist action with the Breton Liberation Front
@quiquemarquez3211
Жыл бұрын
The UDB(Union Democratique Breton),Parti Breton and Christian Troadec's party...they might have it very difficult to succeed on centralist France(with its electoral system) with debatable awareness among the population but of course they are there and deserve attention,there is also the subject of Breton unification with the Loire Atlantique that contains Nantes snitched away by Hollande's government given to the neighbouring Pays de Loyre to "boost their economy". Also guys my homeland's nationalist movement Galicia with the BNG(Bloque Nacionalista Galego) leading the political fight was also forgotten,which is strange cause it is a classic to Separatist political movements.
@osz804
Жыл бұрын
@@quiquemarquez3211 Yeah, France is extremely centralist, electoral triumph would be very difficult in this 5th Republic. I think it's extremely strange how they decided which to include. Bavaria and Bornholm might have less of an independence movement than fuckin Castile. Pretty much all Spanish autonomous communities except Murcia and La Rioja have an independence movement stronger than Silesia.
@quiquemarquez3211
Жыл бұрын
@@osz804 Concerning the Iberian case,I would argue from first hand experience that they are not on the same level,Galicia/Catalonia/Basque Country have been recognised since the return of the democracy after the death of the dictator Franco as "historical nationalities" within the system and were originally the only ones that were to be granted Autonomus status mainly due to on the times of the Spanish Second Republic being the only territories/peoples that had already a Statute of Autonomy or were on the way to have it approved. Spanish Socialist Party with President Felipe González at the head changed this policy in order to extend this to his home Andalucía breaking the original format and extending the Autonomus Community format to all territories historical,cultural or artificially created like La Rioja and kinda Murcia or even Cantabria. I am mentioning my homeland Galicia cause we have the electoral results to back it,a strong nationalism since the SXIX century with its own political theory redacted which doesn't have the great majority of other Spanish territories which pretty much lack the characteristics of the three original historical nationalities.Their nationalisms without any kind of real political impact and created from one day to another. If those territories(Asturias,Comunidad Valenciana etc) have a stronger nationalism than Silesia?I wouldn't say as no idea about Silesia's case but really no separatist parties have any kind of success there,I could mention some autonomist movements like Compromis or Foro Asturias but their own origins and murky/debatable with their members often coming from the Socialist Party or the People's Party(PP) so yeah take it how you will what are their true intentions. There is even a political party in O Bierzo/El Bierzo "Partido Berciano" an old disputed territory between Galicia and Castile(even speaking a variant to the Galician language) that also had their own Autonomus yet not Independent agenda,they had nearly no success as well so just a fast nitpick for all of those curious. But just rambling made my case pretty good I think. Thanks to those who read the whole thing,Greetings from Galiza!
@user-nf9xc7ww7m
Жыл бұрын
@@IHaveAHobby Arthur: I'm the king of all Britons Peasant: well, I didn't vote for you.
You missed Sardinia. The Sardinian Action Party, Partito Sardo d'Azione, or PSdA, has the largest number of members in Sardinia's regional council. Sardinian nationalist parties in general gained nearly a third of the vote in 2019
@FrancescoLeddamagneto
Жыл бұрын
Psd’az is not an indipendentist party though
@97Corvi
Жыл бұрын
Also Corsica was missed :/
@matteopani9291
Жыл бұрын
@@FrancescoLeddamagneto Still, we have a lot of independentist parties. A poll also showed that a majority of Sardinians identify themselves as either only Sardinians of more Sardinian than Italian. They also didn't mention Corsica, where last months there were several riots
@FrancescoLeddamagneto
Жыл бұрын
@@matteopani9291 yes of course, I am an indipendentist my self. I was pointing out that psd’az is merely autonomist
@Okami1313
Жыл бұрын
@@FrancescoLeddamagneto Everywhere I look they are described as separatist. At least everywhere I can find in a language I understand. I don't speak Italian, or Sardinian, so I can't read their official site
There's also Åland, which is an autonomous region of Finland. The separatists Ålands Framtid (Future of Åland) was founded in 2001 and at most has held three seats in the 30-seat regional parliament.
@tenacious_takakumi2680
Жыл бұрын
This is the best joke ever. Since when did Ahvenanmaa want to get out of Finland
@Theorimlig
Жыл бұрын
They probably would have joined Sweden if given the opportunity around WW1 and maybe WW2, but now it seems like they have a really sweet deal with Finland. Total independence seems like it would be pointless.
@eerokivisto5103
Жыл бұрын
@@Theorimlig when Finland gained independence, the people of Åland wanted to join Sweden which caused bit of a conflict between the two countries. The autonomy deal was basically a compromise to avoid a bigger conflict. The fact that the separatists have managed to only get three seats at most definitely suggests the people are generally happy
@lenzor100
Жыл бұрын
@@eerokivisto5103 one also have to see it in the context of the situation. It wasn't only that Finland gained it's independence, it was that there was a civil war between the white ( Germany supported) and red ( bolsjevik) supported. During the war when nobody really knew what the outcome would be, Sweden was really worried that Finland would become a ( politically)unfriendly bolsjevik state. The threat of having a potentially hostile country at such a strategic location as the Åland islands was terrifying, neither was the support for the red movement large in Åland. Sweden actually briefly invaded Åland, only to hand the occupation over to Germany. Nowadays Åland has a sweet deal and what country they belong to Is a non issue, but it's true that there is a small movement and I believe that the movement could increase if something drastically changed.
@potatofuryy
Жыл бұрын
It’s never gonna happen lol, no one actually wants independence.
If you speak about the Belgian breakup, you forgot the third player involved: the german-speaking minority in southeastern belgium. They even had a kind of terrorist movement, if you count painting over the french names for the villages on the motorway exits. In russia, it would surely count as acts of terrorism. The independence movement is not so active at the moment because they gained a lot of autonomy as a side effect of the conflict between the other two regions. But earlier when they tried to suppress the german language the movement was more active. But should Belgium break apart, it could easily be in three parts instead of only two with the german-speaking part seeking unification with either Luxembourg or Germany.
@ogerpinata1703
Жыл бұрын
Eupen und Malmedy zurück zu Deutschland, Flandern zu den Niederlanden und Wallonien zu Frankreich. Brüssel wird freie Stadt und behält ihre Funktion als Hauptstadt der EU. Oder die Benelux-Staaten einigen sich endlich mal und werden wieder ein Land. Eine solche Wegrationalisierung von Klein- und Kleinststaaten wird ohnehin nötig sein, wenn zumindest Westeuropa zu einem Land zusammen wachsen soll.
@stephanbrunker
Жыл бұрын
@@ogerpinata1703 stimmt so nicht ganz. Malmedy ist schon französischsprachig und wird bei Wallonien bleiben wollen. Ich habe auch keine Durchmischung gefunden, auf der französischen Seite der Sprachgrenze können Passanten kein Deutsch. Wobei aber Luxemburg zumindest für die südliche Hälfte der DSG die attraktivere Wahl wäre, historisch allemal als das Herzogtum Luxemburg noch groß war. Aber selbst wenn es immer wieder erwartet wird ist Belgien noch nicht auseinandergebrochen ....
@ydela1961
Жыл бұрын
@@ogerpinata1703 The only part of your "zurück" (back) statement that is historically correct is the Eupen & Malmedy, back to Germany part. The only part of Wallonia that was ever French is Hainaut (that was historically often linked to the 2 Flanders). The bishopric of Liège (Lüttich) was part of France only between 1801 and 1815. That is only 14 years during the Napoleonic area. Compared to the 800 years as part of the Holy Roman Empire (with the exception of a short, 9 years Burgundian period). Throughout history, the 2 Brabants (Brussels & Antwerp) were a little bit of everything: 100y of HRE (1190-1288), 150y of independency (1288-1430), 281y of Spanish rule (1430-1711), 84y Austrian (1711-1795), 20y French (1785-1815), 15y Dutch (1815-1830)... In short, what Brabant was for the longest period, historically speaking, is Spanish. On the Flemish Part, the 2 Flanders were for 700y French or Burgundian (850-1550), for 240y Spanish (1550-1795), 20y french again, then 15y Dutch So, if you want the parts of Belgium "back to some historical group", it should be more like: - Liège, Limburg and Luxembourg, back to Germany - Brabant and Antwerp, back to Spain - Two Flanders and Hainaut, back to France. - Namur... well, I don't know, the little research I did shows a very chaotic history that I couldn't put in a clear timeline.
@tripox7749
Жыл бұрын
@@ogerpinata1703 flanders doesn't want to go to the Netherlands, we'd rather just have independence
@h0lynut
Жыл бұрын
I could tell you right now in russia it would not be an act of terrorism. Because in russia they would already have use of their regional language as is in the case of many oblasts and republics and even other European countries. Strange the german minority had to do that.
what about Greenland? They also want to become independent from Denmark. A majority of Greenlanders support secession at the point which it would not lower their standards of living. Right now the current government is working on setting up the economy in a way that would make Greenland self-sustaining, as they ideologically want independence.
@OHOE1
Жыл бұрын
Bornholm can join Sweden 👉👈
@TheJayjayforce
Жыл бұрын
Probably because Greenland is considered to be part of North America, not Europe. Though I do think Greenlandic independence is one of the most likely from any European country.
@angrynoodletwentyfive6463
Жыл бұрын
greenland isn't in europe tho
@99solutionsit10
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Donald Trump buying Greenland? 🤣
@frederikjrgensen252
Жыл бұрын
@@TheJayjayforce I really would not say so. Greenland has a a lot of issues you dont hear about.
There are also movements in "Friesland" (Frisia) in The Netherlands, "Bretagne" (Brittany) in France. But the one I mostly missed was "Corse" (Corsica) in France. They have been fighting for independence for quite some time. Lastly: I don't really think that Bavaria succession is realistic. What is more realistic: The region of Franken within Bavaria would like to not be part of Bavaria anymore.
@samis6553
Жыл бұрын
I was really missing Corsica also! They just had huge riots before the french presidential election. The whole situation had a really interesting "another man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter" thing going on!
@jammingend3781
Жыл бұрын
Fryslan Boppe
@nicklane6219
Жыл бұрын
Could you elaborate on why the region of Franken would leave Bavaria?
@siemwinkelmolen2721
Жыл бұрын
@@jcc7912 Dit is een kopie van een ander bericht, ben te lui om hetzelfde opnieuw te schrijven. It is a bit the same in the Southern provincie of Limburg. It also has a separate regional language like Frisian (official since 2013, but dont quote me on that) and accually still has a larger percentage of the population accually speaking it in comparson with Frisland. These people have only been part of the netherlands since 1830 and feel a lot more loyal to themselves than to The Netherlands. They don't want independence, but do want more efforts to keep the language and culture alive. Also there is a small group of simmilar people left in Belgium and Germany around the border. So not nationalistic, but regionalistic for sure
@gruttepier7391
Жыл бұрын
The FNP (Frysk Nasjonale Partij) is not actually in favour of independence of Friesland, only in favour of more autonomy. As a Frisian I feel like there are very few people who are actually convinced that independence is a good thing.
Not a word on Corsica ??? Independentist movement exist there since 1914 and used guerilla warfare in the 60 and 70
@vivelafrance1800
Жыл бұрын
Some people in Corsica wants more autonomy but not independence. They want to have the same status as French Polynesia (article 74 of the Constitution) which gives more autonomy to the overseas departments but no one wants independence. And even the minority who wants autonomy it's only a few minority. I go to Corisca every summer and I've never met in my life someone who wants autonomy (every July 14th they have a proud French parade in Ajaccio and fireworks everywhere to celebrate France :)
@rayian536
Жыл бұрын
@@vivelafrance1800 Hush up French imperialist. Just a month ago people from all over Corsica were protesting for more autonomy and a small minority for indep.
@vivelafrance1800
Жыл бұрын
@@rayian536 I said few wants autonomy (last protest there were 5000 people on a island with 350 000 people. Its only a minoirty they even voted a majority for Le Pen in Corsica and Le Pen is anti autonomy when Macron is in favour of autonomy. If they wanted autonomy they would have voted for Macron and not for le Pen with huge majority in Corsica
@matteopani9291
Жыл бұрын
@@vivelafrance1800 In the 13th of March 7000 people showed up in Bastia (according to SkyTG24). Since in Corsica live 340.000 people, it's as if 1,4 MILLION people showed up during a protest in Paris. I will now report he parties in the Corsican Assembly, with their respective ideology (according to Wikipedia): - "Femu a Corsica" (32/63 seats): autonomist, corsican nationalist, centrist; - "Les Républicains" and CCB (17/63): unionist, conservative, centre-right; - "Partitu di a Nazione Corsa" (7/63): autonomist, corsican nationalist, centre-left; - "Corsica Libera" (1/63): independentist, corsican nationalist, leftist; - "Core in Fronte" (6/63): independentist, corsican nationalist, far-left; So, you have a majority of 46/63 for the Corsican Nationalists.
Come on, how could you mention Bornholm, Silesia, Bavaria or Sicily and not Galiza? It has a well established identity, autonomy, and and the second biggest party in the local assembly, the Galician Nationalist Bloc, is pro independence. Union with Portugal is also popular in some sectors. Also worth mentioning -Åland -Sápmi -Republika Srpska -Elsass/Alsace -Brittany -Occitania -Corsica etc You should do a Part II
@prion42
Жыл бұрын
I am surprised Republika Srpska didn't make the cut. Maybe opinion polling didn't meet the threshold.
@kgw72
Жыл бұрын
Well, the BNG has recently reborn after some years of total obscurity, but still, the majority voted party is PP local branch, which is not pro independence at all.
@Norup928
Жыл бұрын
Scania?
@ulises1546
Жыл бұрын
I frequently go to Galicia since most of my family and some friends are from there and I have never seen, or heard any kind of real separatist intentions anywhere. (This could be due to the regions which I visit being exceptions to the movement, Pontevedra and A Coruña, so I can't really comment on the subject)
@Adam_GamesHD
Жыл бұрын
Basque? Wales?
Good video, if you make a second video you should add the Semi-serious Jämtland and Skåne(Scania) independence movements
Commenting on the Belgium situation, one of the parties you mention in the video is called 'Vlaams Belang' and since 1989 there's been a cordon sanitaire established, meaning that no party is ''allowed'' to make a parliament with them, in other words they would need to have a majority themselves to rule. Secondly while N-VA used to have a really outspoken separatist stance it has severely diminished over the years. Flanders separating from Belgium is very unlikely to happen as it stands. Interesting video nonetheless!
@emielcooreman8711
Жыл бұрын
As a fellow Belgian, I agree with this. Separation is very unlikely. Certainly, with all the crises we've had, this subject has been wiped off the table.
@thefirebreakerru
Жыл бұрын
If VB gets decent share of the votes together with N-VA, the other parties will have to create a coalition consisting of every single party except for those two, which is likely to result in an even more divided government then it already is and will piss of more and more people since the 2 largest parties won’t be in government, again. So I wouldn’t say it’s unlikely really
@dojelnotmyrealname4018
Жыл бұрын
There's also the simple matter that most ordinary flemishmen don't actually care *that* much. Because of the cordon sanitaire VB votes are two-fold: genuine separatists, but also protest votes(since nobody will ever work with them, voting for VB makes politicians' lives difficult). The separatist movement mostly exists in politics and not so much in the streets.
@aarongoyvaerts438
Жыл бұрын
They also didn’t take into account that only a very small percentage of the people who vote for the vlemish nationalist parties believe in their separatist ideas. Secession is therefore very unlikely, and will probably never happen.
@MaJuV
Жыл бұрын
True. The main reason the NVA has gotten more votes over the years is because they toned down the separatist talks. There's still a faction within the party that really wants this. But the overall stance on separation has been severely muted in the past decade. It only really flares up on occasion (like the Flemish regional holiday, July 11, or when other regions in Europe try to go for independence). And honestly, I don't think VB was ever really part of the separatist angle. I always thought it was only NVA that really talked about an independent Flanders.
You mentioned Wales, Bornholm and Silesia but not Brittany, The Aaland Islands, Cornwall, Galicia, Northern/Southern Italy split, Bosnia, Corsica and a myriad of other separatist movements. Brittany and Corisca are pretty major omissions and this video makes it seem like the UK is the only one under any threat from Separatism, even you threatening that Wales will go if Scotland go. Well what happens if Catalonia leaves Spain? You think that will keep the Galicians onboard?
@supremeleader9838
Жыл бұрын
this guy hates the UK and british people. typical remainer/self hater
@KazeHorse
Жыл бұрын
Cornwall is my personal favourite.
@lordgemini2376
Жыл бұрын
@@KazeHorse It's practically nonexistent
@KazeHorse
Жыл бұрын
@@lordgemini2376 that’s why it’s my favourite. Like a parody separatist movement.
@theosaure50
Жыл бұрын
I disagree for Brittany. The independentist movement in Brittany is close to non existent despite a strong regional identity. Corsica on the other is actually a pretty big omission.
You missed a couple. * There's a lot of seperatist sentiment in Northern Italy, either as independent provinces (like Venice becoming independent) or the concept of "Padania" * While you might not want to count Transnistria since they've already seperated, Gagauzia is another area of Moldova where secessionism might be popular * Corsica
@Andreabont
Жыл бұрын
The "Padania" question is now a folkloristic anecdote, with no possibility of having any real effects.
Ur Chanel is amazing! Congrats guys
No mention of Republika Srpska? Also Istrian autonomy or independence is more of a meme than an actual proposal by IDS.
you forgot Corsica which has an important and sometimes even violent separatist movement
When you mentioned Basque you said half a decade but you meant half a century. Great video !
Ideas for a Part 2 - Corsica, Venice, the Serb Republic, etc... Maybe do more videos like this for other continents - North and South America, Africa, Asia, etc...
About French separatist movements, there's also Corsica, French Polynesia and New Caledonia. Corsica has some history of wanting independance, having even been troubled by terrorism in favour of independance. The French government has, in the past 30 years, made several concessions towards autonomy. And Corsican politics are dominated by pro-independance or autonomist movements. I don't know much about French Polynesia, but they also have a lot of concessions and autonomy. They have their own currency, government and laws. Same goes for New Caledonia, which has also been troubled by violent movements. A recent referendum on independance was lost by the Caledonians, but it was mostly because of ethnic French living there (a crushing majority of natives there want independance). The two latters are oversea but they're still kind of European. And I only covered the most well-known but I think all French overseas territories have an independance movement for themselves. I think Martinique and especially Guadeloupe are very pro-independance. And there's even Brittany (which, to be honest, is a very unlikely independance candidate - especially compared to all the other places I named). So I think this is a very important piece missing in that video.
@Mr.Nichan
Жыл бұрын
I think he's only counting places IN Europe, not anywhere controlled by European countries, because probably most overseas territories have SOME kind of independence movement, in addition to foreign voices and the UN "decolonization" agenda always quietly suggesting it across the board. Corsica's probably a good point, though, as other comments have asserted.
@Mr.Nichan
Жыл бұрын
He also doesn't appear to he mentioning anything that has never been in the EU, because he didn't mention Gagauzia or Chechnya. He also didn't mention Kosovo, Transnistria, Donetsk, Lugansk, Abkhazia South Ossetia, or Artsakh (except as "breakup of Yugoslavia" and "Russia's various conflicts with its ex-Soviet neighbors"), but those all have de facto independence combined with foreign occupation and influence, and the last three, especially the very last one, can only very dubiously be called "Europe".
@willgreen9861
Жыл бұрын
Martinique and Guadeloupe are actually quite against it. The former rejected independence by 79% in a referendum held in 2010 French guyana rejected independence by 70% the same year. The latter rejected independence by 73% by a referendum helf in 2003 and New caledonia had 4 referendums in 25 years each voting against despite electoral rules being strongly against the ethnic french living there. In fact there's so much money in being French that territories like Mayotte voted to become part of France itself in 2009 rather than just be an overseas collectivity. There's a reason 50% of Mayotte's population is made up of illegal immigrants from the Comoros and they regularly vote for Marine Lepen/ the far right.
@Mr.Nichan
Жыл бұрын
@@willgreen9861 79% against still means 21% for. I don't know if that means there's a "movement".
@pharney5656
Жыл бұрын
@Shanti Andía In France people know about the basques but they've calmed down recently theyve stopped armed terrorism in the 90s and now unlike in Spain, in the French basque country the numbers of Basque speakers are goign down as the population becomes more french. the catalans nobody I've ever heard of consdiers them a real seperstist movement.
CORRECTION: the number of Polish citizens who declared Silesian identity in 2011 census was 800 thousand, not 8 million. 8,5 million is roughly the entire population of Silesia, so it would be quite impossible for all of them to declare themselves a separate people and it flying under everyones radar. On a separate note, almost all of those calling themselves Silesians live in Silesian Voivodeship, which is the eastern part of Silesia. Western part, voivodeship of Lower Silesia, is mostly populated with Poles resettled from Lviv area after the end of the 2nd world war, so there is no strong sense of regional identity there.
I think you should have covered Corsica. Independentist and Autonomists entered an alliance making them win big at the legislative elections of 2017 but I'm expecting them to stay as MPs at the elections next week. Additionnally if you count former colonies that are still under European control, there's referendums in Tahiti going on but it's already a Territory and not a Department which means it's lowkey autonomous.
Can't believe you missed Republika Srpska and Herzeg-Bosnia in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Vojvodina in Serbia. They're some of the strongest independence movements in Europe, especially the Bosnian ones.
@emp96ElminD
Жыл бұрын
True, I can confirm, I'm from Bosnia. The thing is, though, those are blocked by the peace treaty, so they cannot legally secede. Doing so would outright start a new war.
@iellachich1894
Жыл бұрын
@@emp96ElminD yeah, but so can't Istria legally leave Croatia and they still covered it. Even though it's barely an independence movement compared to these...
@emp96ElminD
Жыл бұрын
@@iellachich1894 they did cover Istria, because there is no legal mechanism for independence inside the Croatian constitution. RS and HB are both constitutionally impossible. Legally speaking Istria is light years closer to independence.
@iellachich1894
Жыл бұрын
@@emp96ElminD tbh, it seems likely to me that we will see a new war in Bosnia before seeing Istrian independence
@emp96ElminD
Жыл бұрын
@@iellachich1894 nah, I hang out with Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Serbs that are my age. We would all sooner leave then fight again. Fuck war and fuck the politicians who start them. I was speaking from a legal perspective nothing more. :D
It’s wrong that 8 million people declared Silesian identity in 2011 census. Where did you get this from?
@domenstrmsek5625
Жыл бұрын
80.000
@BobuxGuy
Жыл бұрын
8 people
@jurejs006
Жыл бұрын
From ass. Also flags are wrong 🤦♂️
@dddominik8225
Жыл бұрын
8 miliardów hanysów
@rafatymoniewicz7735
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he switched this up with the population of Polish Silesia
Is this only in the EU? Because your missing some pretty strong (relatively) movements in Serbia and Bosnia
@benbezuidenhout626
Жыл бұрын
... the UK and the Faroes aren't in the EU
@SianaGearz
Жыл бұрын
This video has some spectacularly sloppy writing, as noted even by the author in the pinned comment. It might be best to disregard it entirely, the writer might have had a bad day. A Monday product so to say.
@JesterEric
Жыл бұрын
Greenland wants to separate from Denmark
Breakup of Yugoslavia in the early 2000s? :| Also you missed the separatist movement of Serbs in Bosnia
@linusfotograf
Жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia officially ceased to exist in the early 2000s but the break up started ten years earlier.
@ImStevan
Жыл бұрын
@@linusfotograf Fully aware of that, but the Yugoslavia we tend to think of when just saying "Yugoslavia" broke up in the early 90's, not 2000's
@linusfotograf
Жыл бұрын
@@ImStevan Yeah, I’m thinking the writer must’ve just googled ”when did Yugoslavia break up?” and went with that
First of all, the Székelys in Romania want autonomy, not independence. Second, Viktor Orbán is Prime Minister, not President. Would be lovely if you would actually get your facts right.
This title is misleading. It shouldn't be every separatist region in Europe, but only in the EU. You missed a number of major ones that are going on in non-EU member states. It's weird that you still treat terms "Europe" and "EU" as sinonimes even though you live in European but non-EU county.
@Giotsche
Жыл бұрын
So UK is EU?
@rutessian
Жыл бұрын
It's one of those intentional mistakes, at least where I live in eastern Europe. If not pro-Europe ( pro-EU) then you must be pro-Russia or an isolationist. Somehow neutrality never seems to occur to them or that we could engage in trade with the EU without being part of it.
@jeffbland375
Жыл бұрын
The UK is not in the EU, so it's technically right to say Europe, though they do seem to be more focused on Western Europe rather than those in the east.
@alexp723
Жыл бұрын
@@Giotsche It was for almost fifty years
@jan_franzke
Жыл бұрын
But he listed Scotland, NI and Wales. They aren't part of the EU either.
6:30 - Big mistake here. Actually only arund 847,000 people claim Silesian idenety. About 8 million people live in three Silesian voivodeships (Lower Silesia, Opolskie, Upper Silesia) Only some people from Opolskie and Upper Silesia have Silesian culture and some of them are considered themselfs as Silesians. Most Silesians, however, do not want independence and consider themselves to be Silesian and Polish.
@nickthurn6449
Жыл бұрын
Weren't a few million German speaking Silesians expelled post WW2 - Including my mother in law and her family?
@rafstary3706
Жыл бұрын
@@nickthurn6449 Sadly, there where. As my polish Grandparents from Eastern Galicia. I could not find a survey showing how many people from Germany currently consider themselves as Silesian. The latest I know is from the 70s. You can let me know if you find a more updated one. Nevertheless, I doubt that these people care about the autonomy of modern Silesia.
@nickthurn6449
Жыл бұрын
@@rafstary3706 we'll definitely not my mother in law because she's dead - but in 1945 she was only 15.
@rafstary3706
Жыл бұрын
@@nickthurn6449 I am sorry to hear that. Keep her legacy in you.
@nickthurn6449
Жыл бұрын
@@rafstary3706 not an issue - she had a good life and her baby sister is still alive in Germany somewhere...
Super interesting topic but the video had numerous errors and weird choices in regards to which movements were included. This is most certainly not a definitive list and some of the ones included are not worth mentioning, such as the one on Bornholm.
Great video!
Another minor addition to the UK succession list - Cornwall. Its much less likely to happen, but there has been a significant minority of Cornish separatists for quite some time. They are on the south western 'leg' of England - and a lot of Cornish people will only grudgingly access being 'English' as they have their own cultural identity and customs that are closer to the Celtic culture of Wales, Scotland and Ireland (and even their own language that's nearly extinct due to... you know... the English forcing the matter, as they tend to do). Only reason why succession is unlikely is Cornwall's economy is very small and its population very rural, relying mostly on tourism and fishing, and the UK (aka, English) government isn't willing to pay any attention to them. Not that its stopping the Faroe Islanders.
@2aph0d_b33blebr0x
Жыл бұрын
Cornish Celtic Cobblers.
@McConnachy
Жыл бұрын
In Scotland most people are aware of Cornwall, as part of the Celtic league. Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall, Brittany
@McConnachy
Жыл бұрын
@J B no it’s not. Isle of Wight is England
@McConnachy
Жыл бұрын
@J B that seems to be a theme that the British government pushes, but it’s not the reality. The U.K. is not a super power, and nobody is trying to weaken it by promoting independence of any country or region. Isle of Wight is English, Cornwall is Celtic. Case for Indy, yes for Cornwall, if that’s what it’s people want.
@hakdirt6458
Жыл бұрын
Sorry what? Cornish lad here, where tf you getting your info on Cornwall? We're West Country Brits/English, with a Celtic heritage still living on through our heavy regional accents, but Independence? Who tf you been talking too.
Breakup of Yugoslavia in early 2000? I live here and I am pretty sure that it was in early '90es
@Game_Hero
Жыл бұрын
Montenegro and Kosovo put an official end to end, Serbia still called itself Yugoslavia before Montenegro became a sovereign state in 2006.
@nfo981
Жыл бұрын
@@Game_Hero Well, you are wrong. Yugoslavia crumbled in bloody wars in Croatia and Bosnia in 90's. How serbia called itself is irrelevant.
@Game_Hero
Жыл бұрын
@@nfo981 It is relevant as Yugoslavia continued existing in the first half of the 2000s, just with less members in it.
Ayy, finally someone talks about the Faroe Islands, nice! Really thankful for the shoutout, but "fara út vit einsamallur" is just a word-for-word translation that sounds like gibberish to us. The more accurate translation would be something like "Gev okkum frið!". I assume the writers used Microsoft Translator; their English-Faroese functionality was only launched very recently, so there are still a lot of glitches and kinks that need to be worked out. You got everything else right though!
@gothicgolem2947
Жыл бұрын
Do I think independence will happen? I mean this vid made it sound like Denmark has no plans to let it happen so if they don’t will there be a war?
@sortingoutmyclothes8131
Жыл бұрын
I love Eivør's music in Faroese. I always listen to it while studying.
At 3:20 it is stated that there are 49 Scottish seats in Westminster - there are actually 59.
Worth mentioning (yet another) "United" Kingdom one here - Cornwall. The main Cornish nationalist party, Mebyon Kernow, tends toward autonomy rather than full independence. Support for autonomy generally runs fairly high, but very low for full independence. MK has been around since the 50s, and generally holds 4-6 seats on Cornwall council at any one time. They usually only contest one or two WM seats and usually poll really badly, but do consistently better in council votes, especially in poorer towns like Camborne, Pool and Redruth where few people from England live. I'd say not likely, but as a long running and fairly consistent force in a region with a *very* strong regional identity I think they deserve a mention.
@kw2142
Жыл бұрын
Well they got their own specific video!
@benbezuidenhout626
Жыл бұрын
do we have any data for the claim that support for autonomy runs high? I've never met a Cornish person that actually wants autonomy, and never met one that doesn't identify as English as well
@erozionzeall6371
Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that Northern England is also trying to separate from England
@benbezuidenhout626
Жыл бұрын
@@erozionzeall6371 it really isn't lol, Northern English independence is a fringe movement lmao
@solsunman383
Жыл бұрын
@@benbezuidenhout626 That's not true. Everyone around here is very anti-London. Whilst there's probably not support for independence, there is significant support for separating off the North within the UK (or expelling London from England). This is especially true in Yorkshire and the North-East.
Where did you get 8 million from when discussing Silesians? It was 800k, quite a big difference
We Will need part 2
7:28 Romania: The Székelys don’t ask for independence, the vast majority of them just want autonomy. There are predominantly Hungarians in the region, 600K of them, who historically lived there. It's outstanding that they still don't have autonomy. It's also true that they have plenty of rights, almost same as having an explicit autonomy - they just don't have it officially recognized.
@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
Жыл бұрын
The Hungarians in Romania are very disadvantaged. They were so under the dictatorship of Ceasescu and they continue to be so.
@papianto1
7 ай бұрын
Nu au și nu vor avea
Given how often it has been in the news with relation to the Ukraine war I'm surprised that Transnistria wasn't mentioned in this.
@ramseykeilani9569
Жыл бұрын
Not really a "secessionist" movement, since its been de facto independent for 30 years. Same reason why Northern Cyprus wasn't mentioned.
How about we revert back to the map of 1792 Holy Roman Empire and others just to satisfy everyone?
6:33 - That's incorrect, according to the 2011 census about 809 000 people declared Silesian identity, 418 000 declared it on the first place, above Polish.
Transnistria wasn't mentioned. Is this an independence movement or an invasion?
Seeing as some other groups with low desire for separation are also on this list, I would think you would talk about the Friesland province in the Netherlands too. It's kinda like our version of Wales
@narannavan
Жыл бұрын
It isn't that low in Wales. Boris is the gift that keeps giving.
Kudos for the list but it was a bit of a weird one. When it comes to Bosnia and Herzegovina, it's a freaking mess that is barely holding together yet you mention Istria in neighbouring Croatia? That one is more comparable to Vojvodina in (neighbouring) Serbia, being interested in more autonomy inside the state rather than aiming to separate.
The nebula ad was great lol
When talking about the Basque Conflict, I think you meant "half a century" when you said "half a decade".
6:14 I think you mean Flanders. And when differentiating the 2 regions we prefer that you use the correct flanders/wallonia flag and not the dutch and french one... proud Belgian here btw.
@jorenbaplu5100
Жыл бұрын
I think they assume either region would get absorbed by the Netherlands and France respectively. Making the flanders and wallonia flags irrelevant. Kind of a good example of how there isn't even a plan for how this would all happen. Its nothing but empty loud populism for easy votes.
Silesian independence movement is about as serious as “scouse not English”
@jurejs006
Жыл бұрын
Because it's autonomy movement, not separatist 🤷♂️
I thought the spanish movement for separation was the furthest south looks like you got me.
0:18 Slovakia : Am I a joke to you?
You forgot Isle of Man… it’s basically independent anyway but there is strong support for even further independence, especially at national political level 🇮🇲
@NicholasJH96
Жыл бұрын
Majority of People I know think Isle of Man & Gibraltar are independent just like Ireland is & they have a agreement with U.K. for military support if they get attacked. As a Welsh person for Independence I also support Independence for Scotland & United Ireland. You did forget Greenland tho.
@adrianwhyatt1425
Жыл бұрын
@@NicholasJH96 The Isle of Man has a Treaty with the UK. It's free to repudiate it. Gibraltar is a British Crown Colony.
@NicholasJH96
Жыл бұрын
@@adrianwhyatt1425 what I mean is they have deal with UK government to protect them if they come under attack
@Jack_today
21 сағат бұрын
@@NicholasJH96 you are completely wrong, Gibraltar voted against independence
I worked in a company in Paris that had no less than 10 Faroese wirking for them ( out of about 100 people) we used to joke we had 5% of the population. Good people I enjoyed their company.
@Sammi84
Жыл бұрын
Something fishing or shipping related?
Bavaria: I want to leave! Germany: *NEIN! 😡*
Nice video, the Sicilian independence movements are strong but divided, there are too many of them so it makes it more complicated. Oh and you forget my brothers and sisters in Corsica, Venezia and Sardegna
@animeXcaso
10 ай бұрын
Venetian separatism is a joke
“Here are all the separatist movements… just don’t count the ones that aren’t separatists”
Strange that Birnholm was mentioned but not Greenland... Other notable exclusions include Transnistria, Circassia, Turkish Kurdistan, Corsica and some others
@WesleyKokonoot
Жыл бұрын
Greenland is in North America, not Europe. If he had to include overseas regions outside of Europe he basically had include almost all island owned by European countries
@pellept0327
Жыл бұрын
Well they did say IN Europe which Greenland isn't. If they did Greenland then there should probably also be some more French and British independence movements.
@timurdemirkan5272
Жыл бұрын
Turkish Kurdistan is located in Asia thats why
@benbezuidenhout626
Жыл бұрын
Greenland is in North America, Transnistria is basically already a country, Circassia is difficult to monitor as it's in Russia, Kurdistan is in Asia... but yes Corsica could have been mentioned!
@user-jd5zt4of8q
Жыл бұрын
@@benbezuidenhout626 I see Meanwhile I forgot the biggest ommision of all - Turkish Cypress... Republika Srpska also deserves a mention
Great content, still think you should have mentioned Northern Independence and Cornwall's movement within the UK 😉
@belltond1527
Жыл бұрын
Nah
@wheatley1866
Жыл бұрын
Nah
@Maria-ln3xc
9 ай бұрын
Gibraltar español
Also Val de Aran, home of Aranese, in Catalonia, north of the Pyrenees but still in Spain.
Veil of ignorance lifted for me. I never knew there were so many Separatist in Europe. This was a great video for me! P.S. Is there going to be a video on the vote of no confidence on PM Boris J?
@pellept0327
Жыл бұрын
And they even failed to mention a couple
Dayum! The comments are eating you guys alive! However, kudos to the team for attempting to make such an ambitious video. Love you bunches! 😚😍
@acoroa9299
Жыл бұрын
I agree. I could tell from the title that the comments were going to be brutal. To cover so many locations, many of which I was sure they weren't familiar with, would be difficult. Anywho, appreciate the content though.
Lol 1:33 ... "so, let's get straight to it!"
South Tyrol German speaker here, we already have near full autonomy from Rome, all the taxes stay here, most services are local managed, only our law can't go against national law, we have small independence movements, but not big enough for a rally
@Marco.-
Жыл бұрын
Do you also know italian? I'm from Emilia-Romagna and i always found the situation in South Tyrol really interesting
@Leo-uu8du
Жыл бұрын
We have to learn it.
Although the Bavarians emphasize that they are first Bavarians and then Germans, a split is unlikely. Bavaria almost provided the German Chancellor this time, but the prospects in the elections were rather poor, the Bavarian Prime Minister left the place of the loser to someone else from North Rhine-Westphalia. Bavaria has often raised its finger and received special requests, which would not be possible as a separate state.
@philipkoene5345
Жыл бұрын
I am Bavarian. Independence is not something that is talked about in 99% of the households here. It will never happen.
@mimamo
Жыл бұрын
@@philipkoene5345 Yeah, it even being mentioned in this video is weird. It's not just "unlikely" it's extremely unlikely. Whenever it is mentioned, it's meant as a joke. The good old Bavaria and Prussia rivalry.
It seems strange that Corsican, Breton and Basque independence movements are not mentioned. Perhaps successful state suppression of independence movements were part of TLDR's selection procedure?
@eldel6398
Жыл бұрын
“Basque isn’t mentioned” did you watch the video?
@markaxworthy2508
Жыл бұрын
@@eldel6398 Not in connection with France it wasn't. Neither were the Corsicans or Basques. It is as if TLDR think France is a monolthic whole. Surely an oversight?
Scania (sorta)? Corsica? Venice also has some form of an independence movement too, and Sardinia!
Besides Corsica, which was mentioned in another comment, you also missed Padania (Northern Italy), whose independence movement has a strong platform in Italy (the famous Northern League).
@lucadesanctis563
Жыл бұрын
Not anymore. Lega is now a nationalist party
It feels like you guys maybe added some independence movements which don't have a chance of success (like Borno, Bavaria, Szekelyland...)
@Game_Hero
Жыл бұрын
but they exist, so its informative to include them. Who knows? Maybe they'll have more chance in the future.
@papianto1
7 ай бұрын
@@Game_Herothere are less and less szekels and hungarians in romania, "szekelyland" was made up by 3 romanian counties Mures Covasna and Harghita, Mureș was like 60% hungarian now it is only 30%, Covasna and Harghita ≈90% now they are at 80% and still going down from 1.200.000 hungarians in 2011 now there are ≈900k-1.000.000
@Game_Hero
7 ай бұрын
@@papianto1 Time is running out for them, where are they all going?
@papianto1
7 ай бұрын
@@Game_Hero going to the west like everyone in this country
The best thing about Bavarian independence is that the Bundesliga would become interesting again
@ryantanner9439
Жыл бұрын
HaHaHa.... So it would just be between Dortmund and Leipzig for the title every year? LoL
The region you depicted as the Basque Country is only just three out of the seven Basque provinces. While the autonomous Basque region in Spain is indeed only those select three, the entirety of the Basque Country also includes the province Nafarroa within the Spanish border, as well as the three provinces Lapurdi, Zuberoa and Nafarroa Beherea within the French border
@Maria-ln3xc
9 ай бұрын
Eso es lo que los nacionalistas españolas quieren ni Navarra ni Francia piensan siquiera en el tema
@sydneykamer3434
9 ай бұрын
@@Maria-ln3xc ez jakin gaztellianaz dut, herbeheretakoa naiz
I love how in the thumbnail the entire of Belgium just wants to separate from itself
The Silesian movement is concentrated in Upper Silesia, that doesn't claim such a large territory and uses a different (yellow-blue) flag - the Silesian nation that speaks Silesian languages lives in Upper Silesia.
@jurejs006
Жыл бұрын
He got everything wrong 🤦♂️
@kosa9662
Жыл бұрын
There is no separate Silesian language nor nation, they are just a ethnicity similar to Mazovian, Kujavian or Lesser/Greater Polish. Only separate nation in borders of Poland, are Kashubians- the last people of Pomeranians who in middle ages lived from Southern Jutland to Vistula river
@jobda1211
Жыл бұрын
the lower silesian flag is white-yellow, flag shown in the video is kashubian flag (who don't want Independence)
@jurejs006
Жыл бұрын
@@kosa9662 sure, and before 2005 there weren't any Kashubian. Will see about that nation thing 🤷♂️
@naruciakk
Жыл бұрын
@@kosa9662 I was expecting comments like these, but fortunately you won't change the facts with your far-right Polish nationalist bullshit. And the facts are: there are almost 900k Silesians, around 350k of which declare Silesian as the only nationality they adhere to and their tongue is the Silesian language, which is really different from the Polish language and is considered a separate language not only by many, many experts, but also by the users themselves. Poland is simply not a monolithic country and is also oppressive towards its largest minority.
To include Bornholm's non-existent separatist movement but not Scania's separatist movement is simply ridiculous
You forgot the UK's 4th independence movement on the Orkney islands.
you forgot about the Frisian seperatist movement. Over here in the netherlands a grassroots movement has started to get the province of Friesland their independence. Although this movement has not originated in Friesland, it has garnered wide support throughout the other 11 provinces.
to simply explain the flanders/wallonia issue, its like the father wants a divorce, but the mother wants to stay toghether but the father stays for the child, which is brussels
@jorenbaplu5100
Жыл бұрын
Brussels is probably one of the biggest reasons why Belgium will never split.
Southtyrolean here... Especially the twenties and thirties were really hard for the German speaking population. Today we enjoy a lot of autonomy.
I got a nebula ad on this video
I'm curious to visit Bornholm someday; I have an ancestor from there.
Basque separatist here! I am thrilled to see that, just for once, someone talks more about the Basque National Party than about the ETA. Great video! : )
@quiquemarquez3211
Жыл бұрын
Galician nationalist/separatist here! Nowadays they could talk about Bildu too as it has lots of support and is what the second political force on the Basque country?Even reached Navarra's parliament as well.For the first time on forever there is a second option for Basque nationalism with its own labor union and all.
I'm surprised the Scottish independence vote in 2014 wasn't mentioned?
please do this for all continents
What about Corsica?? One of the most rebellious regions in Europe for over 2 centuries has again seen violence for months now
You say ‘Irish independence’ but Ireland has been independent from the UK for years now. It’s in Northern Ireland that there are republicans looking to join Ireland.
Of the two you mentioned from Denmark, I'm surprised you didn't mention Freetown Christiania or Greenland. Regardless, pretty good TLDR of some of the seperatist movements around Europe.
@Juho221
Жыл бұрын
Greenland isn't in Europe
@M.M.83-U
Жыл бұрын
@@Juho221 Greenland is part of the EU throught Denmark.
@koobyn
Жыл бұрын
@@M.M.83-U It's not. Greenland left the EU in the 70s.
@Juho221
Жыл бұрын
@@koobyn It remains a special overseas territory of the EU
@Juho221
Жыл бұрын
@@M.M.83-U True. But If all EU overseas territories were included, the video would be too long. New Caledonia, French Guiana, la Réunion and dozens of others have some separatism
You miss sardinia corsica and theoretically padania (north italy)... Probably there is also some sort of indipendence movement in the south of italy but i don't know well
I would love to join nebula again, but the ui has been unusable for years and I gave up