Why the political worldviews of young men and women are increasingly diverging | DW Analysis

Young men are more likely than women to drop out of college, commit suicide, and support far-right parties. But while misogynistic influencers like Andrew Tate are correctly blamed for fueling the incel manosphere's backlash against feminism, there is a lot more to this story than incels, culture wars and wokeness. From stagnant economies and unaffordable housing to fears of cultural obsolescence, young men are grappling with a myriad of challenges that seldom enter the public discourse. So what is really behind the growing political rift between Gen Z Boys and Girls?
In the video we talk to Richard Reeves, Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution and author of the book "Of Boys and Men" where he explores all the ways in which the modern male is struggling. Alice Evans, visiting scholar at Stanford University, who is travelling around the world to study this divide and makes the point that lagging economies, corporate algorhythms, and patriarchal mentality can explain this backlash. And Neil Shyminsky, Professor at Cambrian College and famous on TikTok as @professorneil, who sees in Influencers like Andrew Tate as a main threat.
Video by Christian Caurla
00:00 - Intro
02:02 - What's going on
03:58 - Ignored issues
11:35 - Crisis of masculinity
22:42 - Online radicalization
28:54 - Solutions
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  • @Thoughtflux
    @Thoughtflux2 ай бұрын

    Men don't like toxic feminism, just as women don't like toxic masculinity. Equality is not the problem here, toxicity is.

  • @salek991

    @salek991

    2 ай бұрын

    @Thoughtflux Daaamn, that was rlly deep and very well put. Wholeheartedly agree.

  • @xxxxMonkeyGirlxxxx

    @xxxxMonkeyGirlxxxx

    2 ай бұрын

    @@declupthe generalization that men should be doing this or women should be doing that is incredibly toxic. It creates societal expectations that should no longer exist given how vastly different the world is economically and culturally. Instead the focus should be on men and women finding out what works for them individually and in their relationships and ignore everyone else.

  • @TheRealBlueValhalla

    @TheRealBlueValhalla

    2 ай бұрын

    The rich provoking a gender war so we ignore the class war

  • @dubsar

    @dubsar

    2 ай бұрын

    We can safely ignore toxic feminism.

  • @matthewanderson5329

    @matthewanderson5329

    2 ай бұрын

    You never hear the term "toxic femininity", because it doesn't exist in progressive circles. Toxic masculinity is term that has been normalized due to progressives, and now that it has created a massive social disruption they don't want to take responsibility for it. Feminism has made gains for the better, but unfortunately it has over-corrected and the issues created will take decades to fix, if ever.

  • @artemkoval4584
    @artemkoval45842 ай бұрын

    In Ukraine men are literally prohibited from leaving the country while woman are living their best lives in Europe

  • @TheRealBlueValhalla

    @TheRealBlueValhalla

    2 ай бұрын

    It's easy being an immigrant and caring for soldier's children far from home.

  • @artemkoval4584

    @artemkoval4584

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheRealBlueValhalla childless woman also able to move freely and enjoy all the benefits (as all people should be able to, that is the point), so talking about children here is pure manipulation

  • @kemsanAlpha

    @kemsanAlpha

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah exactly, we see no one talk about that men are dying alone in a fairly equal country in Europe. But we see all the world focus on women's mandatory hijab in Afghanistan and Iran.

  • @TheLovescream

    @TheLovescream

    2 ай бұрын

    Fleeing from war with your husband staying behind getting mained or killed by Russia is "living ones best life"? What kind of braindead take is that?

  • @Yuusou.

    @Yuusou.

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@artemkoval4584Many women work and use that money so their men and soldiers can buy equipment. Some women have their children with them, so they don't die in the war. It's better for the women to survive than to die from the bombs. Because you can't repopulate, if there's nobody left.

  • @neco5740
    @neco5740Ай бұрын

    Blaming man-fluencers for this crisis is like blaming the symptoms not the underlying diseases. They only make it worse, but they don't come to be in a vacuum

  • @dilutioncreation1317

    @dilutioncreation1317

    24 күн бұрын

    in a vacuum there are virtual particles that come in and out of existence. As a metaphor you can think of these events as "funny" memes that come and go inside a political group you're not a fan of that are a little over the top. Or a single tweet from someone who might not even be part of that group saying something over the top. These memes are not what people in that political group actually think, and the tweet is not representative of the actual sentiment of that political group. This is the vacuum energy that reactionary people feed off of

  • @JoeBlow-fp5ng

    @JoeBlow-fp5ng

    23 күн бұрын

    Blaming the Tates is the laziest form of discourse on this topic. Lazy and pandering research.

  • @Red80008

    @Red80008

    23 күн бұрын

    That's true, but a) ignoring (not addressing) them would mean ignoring an essential part of the disease and b) addressing the symptoms is the first step to treating the disease. Symptoms contribute to a disease and if you don't address them, you're not reating the disease. Blaming them (or anything for that matter) usually doesn't help in general, though, if you don't follow up with solutions.

  • @neco5740

    @neco5740

    22 күн бұрын

    @Red80008 you are right, they probably do need to be get "rid of" if there is a truly to be a change of mind. But if we say we're to magical do such they would just be replaced. Because they aren't the reason certain men are attracted to this ideology they are just filling the market. We would need to address the underlying problems first and then they would probably fade into obscurity anyways

  • @checkcommentsfirst3335

    @checkcommentsfirst3335

    18 күн бұрын

    but tate is a massive catalysator for such ideology

  • @rohankishibe6433
    @rohankishibe6433Ай бұрын

    I can summarize the whole issue right here: The problem is that people keep thinking it's men versus women, boys versus girls, when in reality it's society versus apathy.

  • @datman6266

    @datman6266

    29 күн бұрын

    Now this is an interesting take ..

  • @adornoarendt

    @adornoarendt

    29 күн бұрын

    working class against ruling class

  • @_sansvisage

    @_sansvisage

    29 күн бұрын

    agreed we are all being apathetic and it really hampers our world views

  • @atIXO.

    @atIXO.

    26 күн бұрын

    @@adornoarendt ???

  • @legalfictionnaturalfact3969

    @legalfictionnaturalfact3969

    20 күн бұрын

    No, it's the ruling bloodlines and their little lackeys versus everyone else.

  • @angrytigger83
    @angrytigger832 ай бұрын

    That Cambridge professor has no knowledge of the world. Saying young men aren't confronted with discomfort or fear for their personal safety is wild.

  • @balern4

    @balern4

    2 ай бұрын

    fr lol. How out of touch do you have to be to say something like that? Shameful.

  • @TheReferrer72

    @TheReferrer72

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm sorry he's absolutely correct. compared to what young women go through it not even a thing.

  • @vavictus

    @vavictus

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheReferrer72sure thing, rich guy 🤣

  • @VilkatisJanis

    @VilkatisJanis

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheReferrer72being called up in military, to die in war. or being beaten up on regular basis in all times of day with or without people around, with people seeing it as normal everyday occurance cause well, that is what man do, they fight, is not feeling fear of ones personal safety?

  • @TheRedandWhit

    @TheRedandWhit

    2 ай бұрын

    I think he is talking about how men are less worried about personal safety. Despite being more likely to be a victim of violence etc. And woman being more worried, but less likely to be a victim of violence (unless it's sexual violence).

  • @lukaszbien2904
    @lukaszbien29042 ай бұрын

    Men, for example in Poland have to work longer until they can receive pension than women, at the same time life expectancy of men is lower, how is that equal?

  • @raianmatias7127

    @raianmatias7127

    2 ай бұрын

    Same in Brazil. Not to mention that everything that is either physical or dangerous is a man's job, like construction and military.

  • @quinncreel6091

    @quinncreel6091

    2 ай бұрын

    Because women often stop working to look after their young children...

  • @alebecker12

    @alebecker12

    2 ай бұрын

    @@declupno, we should tax the billionaires to cover for both.

  • @DerDoMeN

    @DerDoMeN

    2 ай бұрын

    Well... It'd be equal if "men in Poland have to work longer and the same goes for the women without children". But something tells me that something like that would be far too equal for you to be considered equal (reminds me of the random generators where we have to lower the amount of randomness to make people believe that it's random as true randomness gives people the feeling of being unfair)

  • @jmi5969

    @jmi5969

    2 ай бұрын

    @@quinncreel6091 If they stop working, they won't get any sensible pension. They have to work to 60 in my country. But men... can only retire after 65. Which is far higher than the average male's life expectancy.

  • @theodosiosmarques8141
    @theodosiosmarques8141Ай бұрын

    I don't agree when they say that "boys should cry", because if we do they ignore us. When I was in third/forth grade my mother had health issues and I believed she would die. I was in the playground in a corner crying all the time and isolated and panicking about it, and guess what, not ONE worker or teacher in the school asked if everything was fine and tried to help me calm down. A few months later, my teacher found my mother and asked if everything was fine with her and pressured her to talk about the illness. In other words, she was more worried about gossipping the illness than taking care of one of her students when he was clearly suffering. I was also victim of bullying some time later and again, most people just disregarded it as "kids being kids" and I was exagerating. So when they say "boys should cry", I add "others should care" ,it works both ways.

  • @RedGrassEater259

    @RedGrassEater259

    Ай бұрын

    So the second half of that sentiment is actually what you're saying. Boys should be allowed to cry And be supported emotionally by the adults around them. The reason why it's called 'toxic' masculinity is not that all masculinity is toxic- it's because it really is toxic to socially pressure half of the population to never feel sad/vulnerable for fear of being seen as weak. Someone should have been there for you and it's bad that they weren't. That's the point

  • @SleepyMatt-zzz

    @SleepyMatt-zzz

    Ай бұрын

    Its not really stating that boys should literally be crying, rather it is stating that men should be more emotionally developed.

  • @ashiok

    @ashiok

    Ай бұрын

    @@SleepyMatt-zzz Semantic and missing the point.

  • @michelleyang4063

    @michelleyang4063

    Ай бұрын

    "boys should cry" implies more than just the sole act of boys crying, it implies that society needs to shift away from the toxic masculinity value that stigmatize against crying boys. What should have changed in your experience was not you crying - what should have changed was how everyone around you treated you in response to your crying. What's wrong is making boys and men feel like they aren't allowed to cry - not the act of crying

  • @hittingyouoverthehead

    @hittingyouoverthehead

    Ай бұрын

    If that's true that's very sad... but I want to add that I kind of don't believe that a 9-10 year old crying was ignored. Usually people ask what's wrong. And if you were really ignored then maybe you're the outlier. I've had issues when I was a kid and usually people definitely bothered to check what's going on.

  • @logangantner3863
    @logangantner3863Ай бұрын

    I do not think figures like Andrew Tate are positive for the world at all. But what people need to understand is HOW people like Tate gain so much popularity in the first place. And the reason is because men, especially younger men, do not feel heard or like their very real issues are taken seriously. Every time there is a discussion about men, it always feels like it gets commandeered into a discussion about women, politics, or is unproductively intended to tell men to "be better". When men try to argue that men's issues are real and worthy of discussion, it tends to be met with a lot of public shaming (especially paired with accusations of being an incel, angry virgin, etc). When you remove all possibility of outlets for men to deal with men's issues, you end up with unapologetic villains filling the vacuum. And the most frustrating part is that the people who caused and perpetuate this problem are not self-aware and don't seem to be willing to budge on this. Some of those people are in this video.

  • @agilemind6241

    @agilemind6241

    Ай бұрын

    Every serious feminist (i.e. have read a book of feminist philosophy, not just twitter outrages) recognizes there are serious problems for men as well and most of them want policies that address those issues. The problem has been that the most popular social movements that claim to address problems faced by men eventually attract the seething misogynist men who blame women for their issues rather than the true structural & systemic causes, who seem to take over those movements. There was a brief moment at the start of the MRA movement where they did actually talk about men's issues without bringing misogyny into it which I found fascinating and compelling, but it took mere months for the misogynists to take over the movement. Though I do agree the inteviewees here weren't the best. e.g. "toxic masculinity" discussion was not good at all, toxic masculinity was not a term saying that masculinity is toxic, it was a term attempting to separate the toxic and beneficial aspects/values of masculinity. However, it has been warped by those who are invested in the toxic aspects of masculinity to undermine it.

  • @PaoloLammens

    @PaoloLammens

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly, 26:24

  • @zugetzuzu

    @zugetzuzu

    Ай бұрын

    Give men an outlet where they can share and express without being judged, I agree, but the people who shame men are (usually not always) other people with conservative views and beliefs or the misandrists. So I fail to see why men go more conservative when they're largely a main contributor to how isolated they feel.

  • @ornofthetalon1

    @ornofthetalon1

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@zugetzuzu I know your comment is made genuinely, because I've made it myself before. As I've been paying more attention to these things though...I've found that progressive groups tend to judge men just as much as conservative. What they judge about is a bit different, but many of the conservative judgements remain. It's not surprising, really. We've all been endoctronated from a young age with society's standard. Most of the feminist women I know still have anxiety about going into public without makeup, even though they believe that women don't owe the world beauty; believing that men should be more open about our emotions while also not feeling that men should be self-reliant and figure those emotions out on their own...is the contradictions being consistent.

  • @pyotrbagration2438

    @pyotrbagration2438

    29 күн бұрын

    @@zugetzuzu Conservative males are demonized by liberals since 2008, you are either living under a rock or just plain disingenuous .

  • @Sloppyjoey1
    @Sloppyjoey12 ай бұрын

    Why is "Women getting more liberal" passively mentioned.. but "Men getting more conservative" is attributed to "radicalization"? lol

  • @kafon6368

    @kafon6368

    2 ай бұрын

    I think you know why. Notice the structure of the opening sentences to convey a worrying feeling. "There's something strange with men .... bad thing #1, bad thing #2, and ... they're becoming more conservative!!"

  • @mi__ran

    @mi__ran

    2 ай бұрын

    Yep. It's very loaded and biased. They think, and want you to think that conservative = bad, and liberal = good.

  • @mdreazhosen5

    @mdreazhosen5

    2 ай бұрын

    Because there are still 50% liberal young men like me (not as loud as other 50% conservative men) who can see the injustice of rich people (mostly men) luring young men to be like them (a rich lifestyle which I shamelessly envy tho) while such promise was never made to women and people of colour. In that way, they can win elections by your votes and pay less taxes even tho that 1% of rich people owns 50% of world's wealth. I don't hate you or the women who wants to be wife of a rich man and do not work as promised by conservative pundits or some misadrist women or even the rich people. I hate the game (capitalism), not the players. Conservativism is not inherently bad. We will become conservatives once equality has achieved in a measureble way (not something like women don't like money, power etc). For example I am more conservative in Nordic countries compare to USA where abortion is banned. I feel if we young men were more united like young women (who are mostly liberal), we could have a better chance convincing government and other institution to help us more (even tho we need it less than women) but instead we fight and nothing gets done.

  • @nkristianschmidt

    @nkristianschmidt

    2 ай бұрын

    exactly

  • @2BEAR-hn6om

    @2BEAR-hn6om

    2 ай бұрын

    They are working from the fact that women are prejudiced against in society today(a fact that we know to be true, we have historical and current evidence to prove it). A class of people deprived of human rights will, naturally, be drawn towards the politics of gaining and keeping human rights (liberalism). In plain terms, it's a no-brainer.

  • @kobeyheberling6172
    @kobeyheberling61722 ай бұрын

    It’s because men issues are ignored by the media and the government. Look at the huge push for women to get into STEM fields but very little to no push for men to get into HELP fields.

  • @MarieFara

    @MarieFara

    2 ай бұрын

    I have been asking what men need help with and this is great. First genuine answer I have seen. Thank you

  • @stompysnake8233

    @stompysnake8233

    2 ай бұрын

    Good idea in theory. But men most men are not interested in help fields. Men in average are more interested in working with things, women in average are more interested in working with people.

  • @outerik90

    @outerik90

    2 ай бұрын

    @@stompysnake8233 then the same thing could be said about women and STEM.

  • @lowwastehighmelanin

    @lowwastehighmelanin

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah the fact that men's mental health is so heavily ignored is really sick.

  • @westerling8436

    @westerling8436

    2 ай бұрын

    Why is the feminist shouting?

  • @animerage1862
    @animerage186229 күн бұрын

    Reading these comments disheartens me to hear how men struggle to be heard by women. As a woman myself, ive always made it clear to the men in my life that if they need someone to talk to or vent to im here to lend an ear. Its only been the past couple years a few of them started taking up that offer and while there are of course differences between any group, most of the time the problems and headaches they have are the same or similar issues i have gone through/am going through. We are all human, yes we are all different and have different problems due to it, but we all also have very similar issues and feelings. At the end of the day, we have more in common than not, and people tend to forget that. If you are a woman, hear out the men in your life. Everyone is just trying to get by and survive. And same vice versa.

  • @spaceowl5957

    @spaceowl5957

    12 күн бұрын

    Very true, thanks for caring :)

  • @s12y6o24

    @s12y6o24

    5 күн бұрын

    Going from what i've been hearing from men: it sounds like most of the women who've asked this either didn't mean it, didn't realize what they were getting into, or even used what they said against them so they were burned or shamed into being silent again. That being said: it's probably the worst cases that tend to get the most attention, and hopefully there'll be more like yourself that are willing to hear them out as time goes on.

  • @dragon-2922

    @dragon-2922

    3 күн бұрын

    Nobody needs your pity

  • @Zax557
    @Zax557Ай бұрын

    0:20 what even are those graphs. Let's look at them for a second. In the US, Gen Z men seem to barely reach centrism, still slightly lib leaning, while women are having an exponential drift upwards (left politically). Germany is pretty much the same. Men have barely crossed the center line while women are flying off the chart. And UK? Men are actually getting more liberal, only not as insanely fast as women. The only graph supporting the "men are going far right" argument is the South Korea one, where the societal norms are way different than in Europe and US.

  • @DefaultFlame

    @DefaultFlame

    Ай бұрын

    There's also Sweden. I'm a Swedish man, and I've seen the change both in the statistics and in the men around me, as well as in myself. Men are getting a lot more conservative here, but that needs to be taken in the context that Sweden and Swedish men are some of the most liberal people in the world. Swedish women haven't changed their (extremely liberal) political stance much over the last two decades, which I've also seen both in the statistics and in the women around me.

  • @vaakdemandante8772

    @vaakdemandante8772

    Ай бұрын

    they are talking in relative terms here, which is bad journalism. If both groups lean left, but one much faster than the other, then relatively the slower group is going to be labeled right-leaning and the faster left-leaning. In the eyes of ultra-progressive-women the progressive men aren't progressive enough, no surprise really. Where are the women content with what they have and content about the men around them - there aren't many women like that, if at all.

  • @emmanuelorange1669

    @emmanuelorange1669

    Ай бұрын

    This is about young people, there's been a historic trend where young people begin life very leftwing and then trend to the right as they get older. The zero line on that graph I believe is meant to imply this is where the general population is, "their parents" as the presenters say, it is unusual and worth investigating this new development

  • @katrinabryce

    @katrinabryce

    Ай бұрын

    I think in the UK, the political parties are moving to the right, but the people are not moving with them. Keir Starmer for example is probably about the same or slightly to the right of John Major.

  • @nj8833

    @nj8833

    Ай бұрын

    The graphs do support the thesis though, which is that the difference between the groups is increasing

  • @XD-cr3du
    @XD-cr3du2 ай бұрын

    "Men care about their relative status towards other men" Right, and the reason they care about that is because women look at social status when selecting partners.

  • @MrEmafon4

    @MrEmafon4

    2 ай бұрын

    Would you, as a man, pick a poor girl over a rich one, every other thing being equal? It's not a woman thing is a human thing.

  • @DerDoMeN

    @DerDoMeN

    2 ай бұрын

    @@samsphaneron I can only partially agree. In our household I'm still (unfortunately) the one that brings more money to the table. The unfortunate part is there because it's tiresome... On the other hand even though we have two daughters and my wife is a teacher, I'm the one forcing the education far beyond what school at the same age provides. Now the reason why we haven't divorced is not her motherhood or maternal instincts... It's because we've managed to agree that she has to suppress them when staying at home or going out of the house for a walk when she can't. So as far as I'm concerned motherhood and maternal instincts just get in the way of producing anything more than a mere human bimbo. But when it comes to the partial agreement I do agree that both parents are needed for balanced and quality nurturing of the kids - a specially now that the village that is supposed to be needed to raise a child is more often than not a bunch of bimbos who you'd not be willing to give even your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate's dog for training. So in the end I don't see the lowering of the attractiveness of men... Just natural selection where we as fathers no longer have to be the only ones using rifles filled with boar hair and salt to hush away the losers pretending to be useful (since now our daughters if they are not accidentally raised as bimbos already do the first filtering without our help).

  • @xxxxMonkeyGirlxxxx

    @xxxxMonkeyGirlxxxx

    2 ай бұрын

    If the women around you only care about societal status then my advice is they are teaching you a valuable lesson which is you don’t need that kind of woman in your life. Focus on what makes you happy and enjoy your life. Never forget you don’t need to be in a relationship to be happy.

  • @mrnice1976

    @mrnice1976

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MrEmafon4 I did. I took a risk, but I picked well. You only find out decades later. Rich girls come with different problems, if you want a relaxed life don't approach women at all.

  • @nvmtt1403

    @nvmtt1403

    2 ай бұрын

    @@xxxxMonkeyGirlxxxxsooner or later you have to grow up and accept that there are no unicorns. if your experience is trying to teach you something, listen to it instead of experts on the internet. the experts have no interest in your life whatsoever.

  • @jdg9999
    @jdg9999Ай бұрын

    Interviewing three liberals about why men are becoming more conservative

  • @estebanleon5826

    @estebanleon5826

    Ай бұрын

    Ain't that wild?

  • @sn5806

    @sn5806

    Ай бұрын

    This deserves to be the top comment. It's absurd.

  • @michaelmcclain6899

    @michaelmcclain6899

    Ай бұрын

    He's looking for intellectual discourse, not misogyny

  • @TarvaLarva

    @TarvaLarva

    Ай бұрын

    The good old everyone I disagree with is a pejorative.

  • @pursutioms

    @pursutioms

    Ай бұрын

    @@michaelmcclain6899Gee i wonder why people are flipping. Your ilk is incapable of intellectual discourse, all you can do is gaslight and use labels to demonize and deflect.

  • @marshallscot
    @marshallscot29 күн бұрын

    Weird how shitting on one group and giving handouts to the other group causes a political divide...

  • @joelmiller3218

    @joelmiller3218

    19 күн бұрын

    When one group deserves the shitting on and the other group deserves the handouts, the group deserving of shitting on has no right to fkn complain how about that? As a man I don't go around crying about feminism and men struggles.

  • @DAndyLord

    @DAndyLord

    19 күн бұрын

    @@joelmiller3218 I cry when anyone struggles. In western society there seems to be a push to ignore the times when men struggle. That can be really alienating.

  • @cletus223

    @cletus223

    19 күн бұрын

    @@joelmiller3218 How about your "good boy points"? Being a good feminist man, never complaining about any of your problems just like those good old patriarchal oppressors.

  • @joelmiller3218

    @joelmiller3218

    19 күн бұрын

    @@DAndyLord men's struggle is not gender oppression. It's working class oppression. And the solutions presented to men is to be good capitalism slaves and to not complain. That's what causes the alienation, not women having equal wages and reproductive freedom. That and also their mental health that western society ignores. Which is something feminism advocates for and tries to push as the main aspect of men's wellbeing.

  • @joelmiller3218

    @joelmiller3218

    19 күн бұрын

    @@cletus223 I don't live in the west. I live in a deeply patriarchal society, one that would be a dream to most men who hate feminism. It's not good. I advocate for women's rights and for feminism in any way I can, not for "good boy points" but because people like me really do care about political freedoms of other groups and individuals. Just a reminder, this isn't 2016 anymore.

  • @guttormur9267
    @guttormur926715 күн бұрын

    saying men that are angry and depressed because who they perceive ''as lower then them'' are being successful is down right psychotic

  • @spaceowl5957

    @spaceowl5957

    12 күн бұрын

    That point felt very insulting and completely out of touch to me as a man. That was the worst part of the video. That some extremist and hateful take and should have no place in a video like this imo.

  • @d818581dd

    @d818581dd

    11 күн бұрын

    @@spaceowl5957 It is true though. As soon as minority groups (women, gay people etc) started to slowly achieve equality, men got angry.

  • @crusherven

    @crusherven

    11 күн бұрын

    @@d818581dd Women aren't really a minority. More importantly, correlation doesn't mean causation.

  • @BMoore335

    @BMoore335

    8 күн бұрын

    When everything is reduced to petty motives it alters the conversation from dialogue to condemnation. Of course men are often coarsely petty, is this a reasonable response to the real challenges some men face? But this is the message, your personal problems are yours alone, while others are institutional and require your full cooperation.

  • @skillbopster

    @skillbopster

    6 күн бұрын

    @@d818581dd Being given a scholarship and a job just because you are a woman or minority is not equality.

  • @michaelharris8598
    @michaelharris85982 ай бұрын

    My high school in the early 2000s had multiple womens self help groups aimed at getting them through issues at school and home. Men tried to start one and it was forcibly disbanded by the school system....men have issues too.

  • @MeltedPearls

    @MeltedPearls

    Ай бұрын

    Your school was wrong to do that. Support is needed for all of us.

  • @caryphillips4885

    @caryphillips4885

    Ай бұрын

    @@MeltedPearlsit is what it is

  • @iss2075

    @iss2075

    Ай бұрын

    @@Mystic879As men we can't (and shouldn't) rely on women to enact change on our behalf. It's our job to do it ourselves.

  • @caryphillips4885

    @caryphillips4885

    Ай бұрын

    @@Mystic879 I would like to, I don’t really have much hope that it will end up being the case though, I have to live my life as if I was stranded on an island and help isn’t coming. It would be nice if help was coming but I’ve gotta survive

  • @dingus6317

    @dingus6317

    Ай бұрын

    @@iss2075 Do you think women were able to bring about change without men's help?

  • @ab-xo4yc
    @ab-xo4ycАй бұрын

    I am 25 yo, I have to deal with everything ALONE. I cannot openly talk about my problems, I cannot say anything otherwise labelled as a loser.

  • @uFFFO

    @uFFFO

    Ай бұрын

    Young man's burden. Speak to your father

  • @zachds1986

    @zachds1986

    Ай бұрын

    It's strange, I see some version of this comment a lot. I work in construction we talk about our problems and deal with issues all the time. I'm sorry to hear that you're dealing with this. You're not asking for advice but I would say to follow Jesus and find people that are Builders instead of Destroyers

  • @ab-xo4yc

    @ab-xo4yc

    Ай бұрын

    @@uFFFO I don't have a father since I was 4 yo...

  • @ab-xo4yc

    @ab-xo4yc

    Ай бұрын

    @@zachds1986 I work in a hangar and the same with some colleague, I feel alone because I don't see anyone in politics taking care about people like me...

  • @Yamatification

    @Yamatification

    Ай бұрын

    I also work in construction we talk about issues all the time... just after a 14hr shift and 10 beers so we don't really remember the solutions when we get up at 5:30am the next day to get ready to do it all again. Huge part of the industry are destroyers, a lot of bosses taking advantage is a big part of the problem. And dealing with these issues, not being home for the family creates half the problems that need dealing with in the first place, definition of toxic workplaces and toxic masculinity. If you don't work through your problems and emotions you won't be able to chase your dreams, then you'll end up a real loser, get help, talk to your real friends, they probably have the same issues just don't whinge; identify the root and act, hope things get better for you m8 🙏

  • @Cord741
    @Cord74127 күн бұрын

    Being a male in their 20's, a lot of the comments on this video make good points one way or another. To me, it's not about men being upset about losing advantages. It's the constant reinforcement of lifting others up without feeling like there is any attention for your own issues (especially as a white male). I do see the irony in a white male feeling put down and marginalized. I am all for the empowerment of women and minorities, but it is difficult to have all of your own problems dismissed due to your identity. "You're a privileged white male, you don't have real problems, or they can't even hold a candle to ours". We do realize our adversity is different, but it feels entirely ignored, and we should be ashamed for even mentioning it.

  • @d818581dd

    @d818581dd

    11 күн бұрын

    As a gay man it annoys me when I see comments like these. Completely out of touch with the experience of minorities, even today.

  • @Cord741

    @Cord741

    11 күн бұрын

    @@d818581dd We don't live each other's lives, so we cannot speak truth to what the other person feels. I respect your opinion, but we'll agree to disagree.

  • @marinmundahl957

    @marinmundahl957

    11 күн бұрын

    I see your point and agree with what you are saying. A Buddhist would say we are all in a state of suffering and instead of pointing fingers we should be reaching for personal enlightenment.

  • @MuslimVoicesPast

    @MuslimVoicesPast

    10 күн бұрын

    ignore all the BS, powerful interests have good reasons for men in the West to feel emasculated and weak. Screw that, don't be overly concerned what society think, work to your own standards. This is what Men do. I assume your a decent human being so trust your own moral compass and don't let them gaslight you into being weak and going with the flow. Because as you can see in this vid, the trend for men especially is downwards, more unhappy, broke and lost. Train, get strong, learn valuable skills, make money and soon you'll be a man who has value to add to others and you'll feel good in the process

  • @ScentlessSun

    @ScentlessSun

    6 күн бұрын

    @@d818581ddAs a straight white man with multiple handicaps my struggles are completely invisible to everyone except people that really know me. I look just like anyone else. You may say, the world will open doors for me that won’t open for other people. Well, I can’t walk through those doors. Everyone these days tries to play victim. White men have struggles. Straight men have struggles. Everyone hurts. We all just need to have empathy and stop acting like one group has it worst than another group. We are individuals. You can’t look at someone and have any idea what’s actually going on with them. Someone could look completely normal but actually be thinking of ending it. Empathy is the answer.

  • @bush2239
    @bush2239Ай бұрын

    I was born into a world that does not want me, does not need me, and I am expected to keep my mouth shut and become another cog in the machine. I struggle every day, and I'm told that I am not; that I have the easiest life compared to everyone else. I have my dwindling family and a few good friends across the country. It's hard to see it now but I still will do my best to become a good, honest man, and give my best attempt at raising a family.

  • @cvangemon1307

    @cvangemon1307

    Ай бұрын

    That's the ideal way to look at it. Lead by example.

  • @maartenkeus8627

    @maartenkeus8627

    Ай бұрын

    I feel you brother.. hang in there, we're all gonna make it

  • @LifeLikeSage

    @LifeLikeSage

    Ай бұрын

    You give them too much. They don't deserve your progeny.

  • @OGurm

    @OGurm

    Ай бұрын

    This struggle is common to all the generation: men, women - we all feel this way. You are definitely not alone. And as we are all in that, Instead of fighting each other, we would need to have a look on the system we live in. It was established in different historical, technical development contexts, without our influence, but we can influence it now to fix it, as it is something which is our responsibility.

  • @stayingfitandfocused

    @stayingfitandfocused

    Ай бұрын

    We playing on dark souls mode bro

  • @jelovaczr
    @jelovaczr2 ай бұрын

    Women are movin to the left, men are moving to the right. The video starts with "What's going on with boys". So automatic presumtion is the men are in the wrong? Are you really supprised why men are pissed?

  • @philippossnortis2035

    @philippossnortis2035

    Ай бұрын

    yep, maybe he consumes too much of that soy!

  • @AZ2PM

    @AZ2PM

    Ай бұрын

    you missed the point - it's unusual because historically, young people of both genders are left/progressive and become conservative with age.

  • @user-jt3dw6vv4x

    @user-jt3dw6vv4x

    Ай бұрын

    Well yeah they are in the wrong because why are they adapting attitudes of hate? We're supposed to be progressing, not regressing.

  • @GraveUypo

    @GraveUypo

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-jt3dw6vv4x except that is a major misnomer and progressives are just the weak people in "easy times create weak people" part of that one saying. well weak people create difficult times, so brace yourself. next few decades are going to suck

  • @tiefensucht

    @tiefensucht

    Ай бұрын

    @@AZ2PM the thing is that people think that what is declared as progressive is actually progressive.

  • @CrittingOut
    @CrittingOut5 күн бұрын

    The education section is so silly. You don't think that maybe the reason most men are behind in education has something to do with women getting preferential treatment in all modern education systems?

  • @horroRomantic444
    @horroRomantic4449 күн бұрын

    If discussing men's problem is seen as problematic before even discussing what those problems are, then clearly there's a big problem.

  • @lionelwatkins

    @lionelwatkins

    8 күн бұрын

    There’s no empathy

  • @hurrdurrmurrgurr
    @hurrdurrmurrgurr2 ай бұрын

    "Equality feels like a loss to the people who were unfairly ahead." That doesn't hold water, it's the youth who weren't alive during this unfairly ahead period that are most upset.

  • @Jo_876

    @Jo_876

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly. If it was my grandfather complaining that would be one thing. But these are the younger men. They have never lived in a society that prioritized them. They grew up in a time after women had already surpassed men in college attainment, where women are more likely to be taking professional roles (just not the ones that require 100 hour weeks). That quote makes no sense.

  • @canuckasaurus

    @canuckasaurus

    2 ай бұрын

    Bingo. Also, I would add that we actually live in a zero-sum reality, at least in the short term. The person that got unemployed when factories started offshoring in the eighties is not the same person who is a comfortable college professor today. Young men getting pushed out of fields like STEM are going to likely going to have a tenuous relationship with the job market for the rest of their lives. It becomes less zero-sum over time, but it takes generations.

  • @zotac1018

    @zotac1018

    2 ай бұрын

    when you hear the term most men , its mostly refers to rich western men .... rest dont even count. we should have a new term "the droids" no feelings only follow orders and stay of of there way ..... and it can be surprisingly refreshing.

  • @stevenhenry5267

    @stevenhenry5267

    2 ай бұрын

    Lol. You're ignoring what their Dad's may have taught them as they were growing up.

  • @Bash70

    @Bash70

    2 ай бұрын

    Ironically, that same statement can be flipped back around at fəminists but you'll never hear that from progrəssivəs or libərals.

  • @parker9012
    @parker90122 ай бұрын

    To me, it just feels like I live in a society that doesn't want me. Working hard and earning a lot is contributing to the wage gap. Approaching women romantically is at best annoying and at worst harassment. Going and getting a STEM degree is contributing to the engineering education gap. If I'm in a society that doesn't want me economically, romantically, or academically, what am I supposed to do? Obviously, being in this society makes me depressed. That's why I spend most of my time biking, hiking, and camping, just trying to put a little distance between me and society.

  • @sfisher89101

    @sfisher89101

    Ай бұрын

    Bear with me, but I think that you are doing the right thing in your situation. By doing activities that you enjoy and that connect you to the natural world, you are helping yourself to cope and remain healthy in a difficult time. In addition, people who object to your work ethic or choice of academic field have the zero-sum mindset the video mentioned. Your achievements needn't keep others from succeeding. You can encourage and help fellow students/coworkers. As for romance, I don't know much, but I think that a person who likes outdoor activities, works hard, and is thoughtful about the world would be and become very interesting, which IMO is more important than other factors in attracting a date. TL;DR: take care, don't give up

  • @somederp8915

    @somederp8915

    Ай бұрын

    @@sfisher89101Sorry, but the "Zero Sum Mindset" is justified. Just look at how real wages developped during the last 2~3 generations. How easy it was for boomers to buy property. A car. Feed a family. You telling me giving the workforce a 50~75% boost (which is a conservative estimate, as the real number nowadays is more like 90~100% at job entry) didn't cause this?

  • @LifeOutsideTheBubble

    @LifeOutsideTheBubble

    Ай бұрын

    Buddy…

  • @SophieLaF0ntaine

    @SophieLaF0ntaine

    Ай бұрын

    Aw... I'm going to assume you are a white male? As an Asian female, I have the opposite impression; it feels like this society adores you (white males) and is merely also trying to like everyone else as much as it already likes white males. I feel like white males have won the biological lottery just by having been born a white male. And if you have a stem degree in engineering, meaning you have $$$, you likely would not even need to approach women; they would flock to you. The vast majority of the Chinese girls in my parents' (Chinese) church are marrying... white males. Not other Chinese guys, but white males. I myself have a boyfriend who is a white male. I also tell him all this; that he's won the biological lottery. He agrees too.

  • @selohcin

    @selohcin

    Ай бұрын

    @@SophieLaF0ntaine Wow. Reading your comment, it feels like we're living in two completely different worlds. I don't know what country you live in, but I've experienced nothing but criticism and condemnation for being a white man in the last 10 years. I can't do anything about my skin color or my sex, so it's really infuriating to hear people tell me that I am an oppressor or a colonizer.

  • @RedTurtleCorporation
    @RedTurtleCorporationАй бұрын

    These “experts” are horrifically out of touch. I get it now, I have to solve the problems I face completely alone. The help isn’t coming anytime soon and that terrifies me. I feel more and more alone as every day passes. 24 is tough. Guys if you don’t have someone that you can reach out to and talk about the HEAVY stuff that weighs you down. I beg you to find one. Those people are the only reason I’m still here today.

  • @Taylor-rw4le

    @Taylor-rw4le

    Ай бұрын

    Start with 1 push up, 1 page of a book, 1 interaction, whatever it is that will help you comfortably grow out of wherever you're stuck. I don't believe that when we are down anyone will actually face our issues with us, but I do think people feel they have no choice when you build yourself up to be something greater than yourself. A sad reality, people are only out to really support the men that will help them gain something as in men who've already figured things out for the most part, those who don't outwardly show whatever that value potential for society is, are not given the time. Just gotta figure it out for yourself first.

  • @user-zy4wv7yx1z

    @user-zy4wv7yx1z

    Ай бұрын

    Almost everyone has to solve their own problems. Welcome to adulthood. Men or woman, adults are out there solving their own problems and taking care of themselves. Sounds like the real world was a shock to you, maybe you were coddled too much as a child

  • @Lightspectre1

    @Lightspectre1

    Ай бұрын

    I'm right there with you, my friend. God is our only ally, and He will give us justice. They nailed him to a cross for it, but He defeated death. You can too, boy. You can too. Success will be our revenge. God will be our justice. Trump will help, though he is only a man. Most importantly, keep faith. Without faith all of it is hopeless.

  • @panperl1212

    @panperl1212

    Ай бұрын

    @@Lightspectre1 People like you being wholesome with each other scares them.

  • @crazyewok8742

    @crazyewok8742

    Ай бұрын

    I would agree. The only one that seemed to know what he’s talking about was Richard Reeves. But you are not alone and nothing in life can be done alone. Just remember no matter how hopeless it seems everything will be alright and there are people that want to help you and care for you

  • @Lightspectre1
    @Lightspectre1Ай бұрын

    I can't help but notice that among all of the "experts" interviewed, not a single one is an actual Gen Z male. Maybe if you want to know what someone is thinking, you should actually talk to them.

  • @weallstilldie

    @weallstilldie

    Ай бұрын

    being an expert takes years of knowledge, and, well, expertise, that nearly all gen z men do not have because they've literally not lived long enough to become a peer-considered "expert." they're literally too young, and maybe not educated enough.

  • @cristop5
    @cristop5Ай бұрын

    In Australia about 60% of university graduates are female. I found a site listing scholarships. Around 120 of these were available to only one gender. That gender was ALWAYS female.

  • @kurtwagner350

    @kurtwagner350

    Ай бұрын

    This is incredibly common in developed countries worldwide, but rarely does anyone actually collect the numbers to show just how big the discrepancy is.

  • @_blank-_

    @_blank-_

    Ай бұрын

    How many scholarships are there in total though? Also, isn't the solution to make university free instead of making women (so our sisters and female friends) miserable?

  • @tycondero1647

    @tycondero1647

    Ай бұрын

    Could be, but this is probably a way to boost women presence (eventually) in high position jobs, knowing that women drop out from these high position jobs often due to maternity. Is it fair to men no, but does the policy in a way make some sort of sense from a demographic point of view: maybe it does. I am a man myself btw.

  • @davecannabis

    @davecannabis

    Ай бұрын

    well you do as some athletes do, tell them you identify as a woman!!! apparently this is quite acceptable these days

  • @cristop5

    @cristop5

    Ай бұрын

    @@tycondero1647 Even if you can't bring yourself to acknowledge that men being discriminated against is a bad thing, maybe you can at least see why other men feel that way.

  • @nuqwestr
    @nuqwestr2 ай бұрын

    "Show me the incentives, I'll show you the outcome" - famous investor said that, but it is true in this case, too.

  • @viktorberta4953

    @viktorberta4953

    2 ай бұрын

    Mr. Charlie Munger's wisdoms are insanely powerful.

  • @Melior_Traiano

    @Melior_Traiano

    2 ай бұрын

    @@viktorberta4953 We lost a legend when he passed.

  • @viktorberta4953

    @viktorberta4953

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Melior_Traiano Truly. God bless Him.

  • @robertwilsoniii2048

    @robertwilsoniii2048

    2 ай бұрын

    Beliefs can alter this as well. Roman Catholics would support policies that hurt themselves if it means helping a marginalized group. Most Protestants and other religions would do the opposite.

  • @nuqwestr

    @nuqwestr

    2 ай бұрын

    @@robertwilsoniii2048 The Roman Catholic Church is one of the wealthiest organization in the world. The church has vast assets, including billions in real estate and some priceless art, not to mention the Vatican Bank. But its finances are largely secret. Tallying that immense wealth is pretty much impossible, according to experts.

  • @larsreckert5423
    @larsreckert5423Ай бұрын

    I don't need a man or a woman to define for me what I should be. Women should... Men are supposed to... Women are... Men are... That's all BS. Find your own way.

  • @montezuma6962

    @montezuma6962

    15 күн бұрын

    Finding your own way is exactly what the feminists can't tolerate.

  • @tungstenogamign

    @tungstenogamign

    10 күн бұрын

    @@montezuma6962 that is literally what feminism is about 😭😭equality for everyone

  • @aaronamour6101

    @aaronamour6101

    16 сағат бұрын

    @@tungstenogamign Very debatable. Reading a lot of feminist literature, including early works, strongly suggest that women who wish to stay at home are oppressed and brainwashed. I'm not saying all of it is like this or that all feminists believe it's a fundamental part of feminist literature to say: "Women should...."

  • @jdcje0292
    @jdcje0292Ай бұрын

    *"Let's gather a group of feminist experts to tell us why young men dislike them"* High quality analysis brought to you by DW

  • @bepatientIhaveautism

    @bepatientIhaveautism

    28 күн бұрын

    "you think you hate journalists enough, you don't" perfect example here

  • @Elucidator-

    @Elucidator-

    14 күн бұрын

    The best very best German PC media have to offer.

  • @spaceowl5957

    @spaceowl5957

    12 күн бұрын

    I don't understand how you could have this takeaway if you watched the video. One of the interviewees was the head of an advocacy group for helping men and boys with thier struggles and I think he seemed to really care.

  • @jdcje0292

    @jdcje0292

    11 күн бұрын

    @@spaceowl5957 I watched the entire documentary. Like said in my comment, my criticism was directed to the feminist experts. To no one else.

  • @Auror2k05

    @Auror2k05

    7 күн бұрын

    They have a god-complex. They believe that anything a misandrist disguised as a feminist says is 100% correct by default. And anything a conservative man says is 100% wrong by default.

  • @TitanRC
    @TitanRCАй бұрын

    “There are just a few too many wagging fingers and not quite enough helping hands”

  • @kolkoki

    @kolkoki

    Ай бұрын

    This is by far the best comment in this comment section.

  • @SkyForceHunter

    @SkyForceHunter

    Ай бұрын

    seriously underrated comment

  • @prodazzda

    @prodazzda

    Ай бұрын

    20:58 fyi

  • @stanky5187

    @stanky5187

    Ай бұрын

    @@prodazzda ty, i thought this was a quote from an outside source lol meaning this comment isnt underrated

  • @Esther-yr1vp

    @Esther-yr1vp

    Ай бұрын

    Yes!! I think helping men is better than blaming woman for the issues, blaming doesn’t do anything but actually helping men by creating support groups,making pensions and ptm equal would do so much more than blaming woman for something they couldn’t have caused ever would.

  • @dennisr3829
    @dennisr3829Ай бұрын

    I'm a young adult man from Finland and completely on the side of empowerment of women. I was told throughout my time in school that I was privileged, while surrounded by support, empowerment and help groups for women and told the world is ruled by men and I as a man was part of the problem. I think the issue for young men is we are made to answer for the sins of earlier generations of men. And absolutely nobody talks to or helps young men growing up. Finland also has conscription and male suicides dominate suicide statistics.

  • @Volkbrecht

    @Volkbrecht

    Ай бұрын

    It's worse. You are being made to answer not for the sins, but for the achievements of those earlier generations. Every piece of technological and societal advancement of the past has benefited women, too. It's just that we came from a historical place where physical strength was an essential qualification to produce essential goods and services, so that is where the compensation went. Now that we have moved into a knowlegde-based, machinized economy, that just naturally stops, and men for the most part are not gatekeeping, quite the contrary. But to also be fair: male suicide is just a hormonal preference. Female depression, while statistically less correlated with self-harm, is not fun either. Personally I think being driven to kill yourself is almost preferrable to wasting away because you cannot get yourself to function. At least this way the amount of suffering gets limited, and it's not like any of us was going to live forever.

  • @hannttu

    @hannttu

    Ай бұрын

    Another Finn here! I get what you mean by the guilt and shaming due to factors you have personally not contributed to, and it's a difficult realisation. I have personally learned about it also through examples of racism, because that is another area where the wrongdoings of past are sometimes directed towards wrong people. My take on this is, that I don't take it personally. Neither gender or racial inequality have vanished, so while some people continue suffering from them, I will seem/be privileged in those areas compared to them. It's just something to acknowledge, and maybe support marginalised groups when possible, but not to take it personally. In regards to our conscription, ironically women and women politicians have been increasingly vocal about extending it to women as well, but the resistance comes from male politicians.. So there the issue comes within the house

  • @mattlenn100

    @mattlenn100

    Ай бұрын

    same in Sweden. Several support groups and study prizes handed out to women when I was in school. We even had a career coach to help women get jobs or go to University. Maybe later in life its unequal in mens favour but why and how would a young man see that when he's growing up he only see so much support and help for women everywhere around him

  • @agnnnnnnn

    @agnnnnnnn

    Ай бұрын

    @@mattlenn100there are so many scholarships in Sweden only for men. The issue is also that men don’t participate in programs at the same rates as women. You need to lead them to water. It’s not the lack of opportunities

  • @agnnnnnnn

    @agnnnnnnn

    Ай бұрын

    @@Volkbrechtyou are so wrong it’s laughable. Physical strength the progress of society? That was briefly the case in the industrial age, and even then machines were build for male bodies. You know that for the majority of human history male professions were about war not actually building society up. And women were working physically and mentally as well always. Men who have contributed and “built” were educated or born into wealth. Like your take on humanity is a fantasy. Not even talking solely about gender views. You need to learn about history for real

  • @aruunmenon
    @aruunmenonАй бұрын

    No real empathy, no real desire for helping, just a fear of consequences and a desire to GAME men to avoid that.

  • @johnfisher8401

    @johnfisher8401

    17 күн бұрын

    whats weird is ive yet to see any women acknowledge this reality, do they genuinely not see this? If so, yikes.

  • @SnakeSalmon8izback

    @SnakeSalmon8izback

    14 күн бұрын

    @@johnfisher8401 why would they see it? they literally are not men.

  • @pyrokinetic8995

    @pyrokinetic8995

    5 күн бұрын

    @@SnakeSalmon8izback Now here is something ive always wondered why its never happened, trans women are some of the few women who have litteraly experienced the issues that men have in their lives, now as women they still have a stronger understanding of this then alot of cis women would have, in a similar way to how cis women have a stronger understanding on period / pregnancy stuff then trans women would. Yet why don't trans women and men work to removing these struggles that affect both?

  • @pyrokinetic8995

    @pyrokinetic8995

    5 күн бұрын

    Something has to be different because from what I have seen trans men and women are very good at supporting eachother and helping promote each others issues

  • @user-uw7cr4os4r
    @user-uw7cr4os4rАй бұрын

    The problem, as Alice Evans demonstrates in the video is that it has become mainstream to stereotype men. And men, especially young liberal men to whom those outdated stereotypes don't apply at all, are pushing back.

  • @pyrokinetic8995

    @pyrokinetic8995

    5 күн бұрын

    though arent alot of these male influencers also promoting stereotypes? sigma males and alpha males are just modern stereotypes

  • @hikari9433
    @hikari94332 ай бұрын

    It's simple. Men are flowing towards movements that value and respect them and take their issues seriously. The same reason young women have been flowing towards liberalism as these movements started getting more female focused than ever.

  • @David-bi6lf

    @David-bi6lf

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@starsiegeRokswell Japan has one of the highest suicide rates and yet is more conservative than countries with lower rates. So exactly does becoming more conservative reduce suicide?

  • @metaterrestrial197

    @metaterrestrial197

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@David-bi6lfArab is also very conservative and has less suicides rate than progressive European countries

  • @TheMelloMunsta5

    @TheMelloMunsta5

    2 ай бұрын

    @@declup The "movement" is more of a "praxeology" and its called the Manosphere...Men helping men figure out all the problems listed here pretty much

  • @hikari9433

    @hikari9433

    2 ай бұрын

    @@David-bi6lf The problem of suicide isn't wether the country is liberal or conservative. It's male loneliness and lack of purpose. Japan has an epidemic of loneliness and social isolation which is followed by western countries. Other conservative and traditional countries on the other hand like Arab, African countries or India are very community and family oriented. So men in these cultures are never really alone and their purposes are defined within their family and community.

  • @hikari9433

    @hikari9433

    2 ай бұрын

    @@declup Male suicides, male depression and loneliness, boys being behind at school, the increase of fatherless homes, family court biases against fathers, false s*xual assaults allegations, etc. All these issues were either ignored, mocked or downplayed by the liberal movements in general. Conservatives were the first ones to address them as a real problem. The left is barely just starting to seriously address these issues. Plus, everywhere on the left, young men kept hearing they're the oppressor, they are toxic, their gender has had its run so now they should just step aside and support women, etc. Imagine being a young man with no experience, who lack self confidence and is still in the process of discovering himself, hearing all this. Then that man turns around and see people like Jordan Peterson or Andrew Tate telling him that there is nothing wrong with being a man, that he should be proud of his masculinity, he should strive to improve himself and become a stronger and wiser individual, etc. The same way the left and the feminist movement focuses on women issues and push the strong independent women message.

  • @baltasarnoreno5973
    @baltasarnoreno59732 ай бұрын

    To be fair about the not being able to fix a car thing: Cars today are deliberately overengineered so that the owner CANNOT fix them.

  • @hananokuni2580

    @hananokuni2580

    2 ай бұрын

    That much I know from experience. I had a 1990 Mitsubishi Mirage. Very easy to work on. Then I had a 1995 Nissan Sentra. Also very easy to work on. Today's cars are practically engineered to death and even simple maintenance procedures like changing the air filter or changing spark plugs require more steps than what is typical for the same procedures carried out on pre-2000 cars.

  • @sor3999

    @sor3999

    Ай бұрын

    You also don't NEED to fix them that often like your father was constantly doing. It was a cost saving measure to not have to take it to the mechanic all the time. You know what this generation does have expertise on? They can fix their computers (software and hardware) and build one from scratch with off the shelf parts. You're dad couldn't do that with a car.

  • @poika22

    @poika22

    Ай бұрын

    @@sor3999 lmao Modern cars break down WAY more than cars from the 80s and 90s. Also, being able to connect a few components and wires like legos with the help of a youtube tutorial does not mean you "built" anything. And even then we're in a tiny minority being able to do even that. Most zoomies don't even know how to view file extensions.

  • @baltasarnoreno5973

    @baltasarnoreno5973

    Ай бұрын

    @@sor3999 My dad needed to fix the car and the tractor etc because he was a farmer and they got far harder use than almost any other vehicle on the road. And no, this generation does NOT have expertise in computer software/hardware. Very few people have the ability to build a computer from off-the shelf-parts or write software code. These are very specialised skills that only a very small proportion of youung adults have. Whereas most men in my father's generation were competent at domestic plumbing, electronics, carpentry and car maintenance.

  • @baltasarnoreno5973

    @baltasarnoreno5973

    Ай бұрын

    @@poika22 Agreed!! Manual competence is not something that most Zoomers shine in. Bolting together a few bits of electronics is not making a computer. And scratching together a few lines of code does not make you a programmer. Most men in my father's generation were able to do basic car repair and maintenance, and were also able to do home plumbing, home electrics and carpentry. It was expected of them - just as our grandmothers were expected to be able to cook from basic ingredients, make and repair clothes from basic fabrics etc. It was taught to them in school and by their parents. And the best car I ever had was pure 1980s design - Nissan Micra. It was literally indestructible and stunningly simple.

  • @walterbison
    @walterbisonАй бұрын

    @32:05 "Frankly, it's never too early to start teaching feminism to children." God help us.

  • @brocksampson2590
    @brocksampson2590Ай бұрын

    As a highschool teacher i can say that one of the biggest issues is that boys struggle more to emotionally regulate and CRUMBLE when it comes to frustration. I dont mean that to be mean, its genuine. The moment of confrontation with something that takes concentration causes them too much panic or shame and they refuse to do it and make it seem like they dont want to do it. A lot of my job is helping people face frustration to be able to do the process.

  • @amitjose3739

    @amitjose3739

    27 күн бұрын

    have you ever thought of programs in education where only girls get scholarships and encouragement but not boys? The emotions might be a seperate issue but i fail to understand why only that is talked about and the other issues are ignored purposely.

  • @aaaab384

    @aaaab384

    27 күн бұрын

    Who teaches spelling to high school teachers?

  • @Red80008

    @Red80008

    22 күн бұрын

    @@aaaab384 you should or refrain from trolling comments in the future. You can keep those missing '...

  • @Red80008

    @Red80008

    22 күн бұрын

    @@amitjose3739 yes, I have. now what? your comment isn't contributing or helping. we all know those things exist. we don't need more examples of unfairness and anecdotes, we need solutions how to stop them from keeping happening.

  • @Red80008

    @Red80008

    22 күн бұрын

    thank you for your contribution and keep up the good work! young men need support facing controvercy and a growing opposition to their gender. teaching them how to deal with frustration is a very good start and very valuable lesson. please don't forget to teach young women as well, because they will face them too and not knowing how to deal with them is what started this whole mess in the first place (as well as many other things). If we want to stop it, we need men AND women to know how to have a peaceful or at least non-violent conversation and knowing that you will be inevitably frustrated and not get what you want right away (and especially not through force/violence/power) but through process and agreements is one of many if not the most important necessity.

  • @HyperIndian
    @HyperIndianАй бұрын

    I once attended a women empowerment event within tech. I was one out of 4 men and there were around 80+ women. Somebody asked why are these events mostly attended only be women and not men? I anonymously replied saying: read the title "Girls in Tech". Then followed up with: men typically arent given a voice in these events. If they speak up, they'll be dismissed or accused of being sexist even if they aren't. There's no basis of discussion. So they don't even bother. The look of anger and confusion by the hosts for saying the most obvious answer was hilarious. I'm convinced they were angry especially because I was anonymous

  • @Cha4k

    @Cha4k

    Ай бұрын

    There are so many of those women in tech events, When they're advertised at work always support them. When I bring up events that support men (Which are extremely rare) I usually get eye roll emojis or messages telling me its discriminatory or unnecessary. When my work celebrates woman's day I join in the celebration, When my work forgets to celebrate men's day and I bring it up I get eye rolls again or comments like "Every day is mens day".

  • @NATESOR

    @NATESOR

    Ай бұрын

    This is a very bizzarre carrier sector to be complaining about men not having enough of a voice in. The tech sector is overwhelmingly male. Like, embarrassingly so. I would suggest allowing women to have their event in this situation. If this were an industry that was predominantly female or even just *roughly* equal, then I would say you have a point. But you picked maybe the very worst example possible to play the "men aren't represented" card.

  • @KenikoB

    @KenikoB

    Ай бұрын

    "Men don't get a voice in events focused on women, waaaah"

  • @TheObeyMayhem

    @TheObeyMayhem

    Ай бұрын

    @@KenikoB They don't, enjoy crying by yourself in the corner. You don't have to agree with it for it to be true.

  • @sn5806

    @sn5806

    Ай бұрын

    @@Cha4k Weird that these communists never want to analyze why women don't elect difficult productive careers in stem or the trades despite receiving 3 out of every 5 degrees along with considerable discrimination in their favor at every step of the way. It's almost as if women prefer to pick a fun easy career and leech off of a man compared to actually supporting themselves. We certainly wouldn't want to campaign about how women need to do their part and step up.

  • @dissidentart5603
    @dissidentart56032 ай бұрын

    I like how their solutions are to appear to care about problems that men face rather than making the living conditions any better for men.

  • @DerDoMeN

    @DerDoMeN

    2 ай бұрын

    Why would you want to improve living conditions for the "men"? Natural selection... It's not like all of us have issues with adapting to current world.

  • @TheLovescream

    @TheLovescream

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DerDoMeN Its not natural selection, theres no level playing field.

  • @DerDoMeN

    @DerDoMeN

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheLovescream Makes me wonder how I managed to get a wife, two daughters, a house etc. etc. etc. then... While my "more manly" (read with more muscles and taller than me) cousins weren't so lucky... So yeah... If "a person who can build a gun and use it is worth more than a biffed up manly man who can protect with muscles" is considered not a level playing field, then you're right. But from where I sit the playing field is finally getting leveled enough to mop of the artifacts from the playing board. So I'll stay with natural selection part. (And don't get me wrong... I'm only 164 height with average muscles... So far smaller and weaker than my relatives... But far more dangerous if need be... And that control in a small dangerous bottle is the manly part that's missing from most "men" that I met throughout the years)

  • @dissidentart5603

    @dissidentart5603

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DerDoMeN You do realize that your personal experience is not representative of the social conditions we’re talking about and literally nobody asked how you compare to your relatives, right? Ok so back to the topic at hand: Men are disproportionately forced into military service. Men have access fewer social and financial resources (such as government assistance, shelters, etc.) It is widely socially acceptable for a woman to commit domestic violence against a man. Men face an increasing burden of affirmative action where they are made to be punished on the basis of their gender.

  • @dissidentart5603

    @dissidentart5603

    2 ай бұрын

    @@declup End the forced military conscription. Have an equal opportunity for government assistance and humanitarian aid like shelters. Mandate equal opportunity for child custody after divorce. Condemn the social acceptance of domestic violence against men.

  • @NINTHSKULL
    @NINTHSKULLАй бұрын

    These charts shown at the beginning clearly show the Women are becoming way more liberal than the men are becoming conservative (except South Korea) so why is the premise not the opposite...

  • @liarwithagun

    @liarwithagun

    Ай бұрын

    Because this is a heavily left leaning channel, so they are very deep into the pit of that particular ideology. Same reason why you can find equally dumb things in a right leaning channel. They are just so focused on how they think the world works that they literally can't see the evidence in front of their eyes that disproves their assumptions.

  • @0doublezero0

    @0doublezero0

    Ай бұрын

    @@liarwithagun The other problem is that the evidence itself is infiltrated by left-leaning ideology. So if try to do a study that favors right-leaning views, it will never be published or even get off the ground.

  • @ichigo_nyanko

    @ichigo_nyanko

    Ай бұрын

    Because it is normal for younger people to be more liberal. If you subtract out the normal leftwards drift of every generation since records began, you will find that it is men who are bucking the trend - not women.

  • @0doublezero0

    @0doublezero0

    Ай бұрын

    @@ichigo_nyanko Nope, it's both. If you what you stated is true, then the graphs for women would follow a linear path, but it follows an exponential one. By around 2010 nearly all women skewed upward for every chart. Men did skew from the liberal path to conservative, but not that much (except SK).

  • @LifeLikeSage

    @LifeLikeSage

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah but extremes aren't a bad thing, only one extreme is bad. *Have you seen the clownworld memes?*

  • @bruvamichal7437
    @bruvamichal7437Ай бұрын

    "When did started hating women" After my mom told Batman that I didn't finish eating all my vegetables.

  • @apollo7807
    @apollo78072 ай бұрын

    I dont like that Alice Evans basicly reduces mens problems to their intersexual relationship to women and their fear in not being able to compete in the race for one. Because i as a gay person still feel and see these problems. The problems men have today is that while men who see women as inferior cant say that, women who do the same with men can freely spread their opinions. For example, there was a young woman in my class (it was 11th the grade), and this women always trash talked men and on principle closed the door right infront of us boys when leaving class and so on and no teacher ever said anything against it since its treated like a crime for a man to openly feel disadvantaged because of their gender. Another problem is, that while boys mature indeed later, they are also way more active and need this activity. We see less and less sports in school. I myself had many long days in school but never, literally NEVER more then 1x2h + 1x1h and later only 1x2h of sports per week while sitting for 7-8 hours on my butt daily... I was definitely not too dumb for school but i remember fairly well that after hour 4 or 5 (depending on the subjects) there was no mental energy left in me to concentrate while most female students did just fine. There needs to be a systematic change in schools to give especially boys more time and to encourage them more to participate in physical activities. Another thing that needs to change is the social perception that men arent allowed to openly feel weak, sad or left behind. There is indeed a HUGE gender gap in favor of women. The only two reasons why you cant see it yet in terms of average wages are that first, it will take another one or two generations to replace men from their top positions and second, women are more likely to prefer jobs that take empathy and are more human related which are at the same time also the jobs with some of the lowest wages. It is indeed a systematic problem and it needs to be solved before we lost another and another generation of boys to it.

  • @SimoniousB

    @SimoniousB

    2 ай бұрын

    It sounds like that young woman was probably a victim of sexual violence

  • @88marome

    @88marome

    2 ай бұрын

    Men always think that women speak too much even when women speak less than the men, it's been tested several times. Your anecdotes aren't reality.

  • @ereshkigalis

    @ereshkigalis

    2 ай бұрын

    Kids shouldnt spend 8 hrs in schools. especially under 16

  • @sir.mistable1496

    @sir.mistable1496

    2 ай бұрын

    Really well articulated argument! It seems to me that particularly in schools that male associated traits such as boisterousness are demonised in the classroom, but the root cause is not being addressed, if we were able to expel this energy with physical activity like you mentioned the levels of focus among boys would be drastically improved

  • @koat1153

    @koat1153

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sir.mistable1496so what about schools a hundred years ago? Much much more boys compared to girls and more male success as well, school techniques haven’t changed very much in the last 100years, if anything school has gotten easier and less tense and strict. This issue is not school, this issue is how boys are raised and I’m not trying to throw men under the bus, this is a parenting and societal problem. Men can be anything a girl is and vice versa, men don’t need to be masculine, men need to be kind, respectful, patient, smart, clean, a good person in general just as girls are raised to be.

  • @wazzpqazzza
    @wazzpqazzzaАй бұрын

    "How do we close the gap?" "Men need to feel less comfortable" bruh

  • @wazzpqazzza

    @wazzpqazzza

    Ай бұрын

    "How do we close the gap?" "Restrict content" bruh

  • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat

    @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat

    Ай бұрын

    @@wazzpqazzza They will never listen. They will never be there for us. We have to be there for ourselves.

  • @Rithmy

    @Rithmy

    Ай бұрын

    @@twelvecatsinatrenchcoatIN Psychology there is something called confirmation bias. Be carefull about your core believes . If you dont question them from time to time then they will confirm by default. Im not telling you to throw them away but to think logically about them, as those are core believes that have a strong influence on your actions. ANd if i may be provocative, it just feels like you are telling you those words to soothe yourself.

  • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat

    @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Rithmy I do not care. The possibilities of our lives shrank while theirs grew. I don't need any biases to figure out how I need to react to that. I'm realizing I'm playing competitive multiplayer, I was dumb enough to believe them when they told us we were playing co-op.

  • @Rithmy

    @Rithmy

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat Dont you think that in a proper competetiv multiplayer everyone should have similar starting possibilities? Noone likes spawn killing for example. There was a time in which offspring was killed if they were not male. How would you like to distribute the possibilities? What is the goal of this multiplayer?

  • @GenVeris
    @GenVerisАй бұрын

    Nobody wants to participate in the activity where you are held accountable for everything, while the only thing expected from another party is to voice their goals and make the decisions, that will be implemented by you. This IS a zero-sum game, ackhually.

  • @zacharybosley1935

    @zacharybosley1935

    Ай бұрын

    13:50

  • @hellitsabouttime8487
    @hellitsabouttime848727 күн бұрын

    Summary of video is rich political elites telling young destitute men they're privileged and just to get over it.

  • @SuperCoolSunglasses

    @SuperCoolSunglasses

    12 күн бұрын

    But they are literally telling that it is not mens fault and they should not be blamed about it?

  • @hellitsabouttime8487

    @hellitsabouttime8487

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@SuperCoolSunglasses They are. Who are you

  • @spaceowl5957

    @spaceowl5957

    12 күн бұрын

    @@hellitsabouttime8487 This is not true at all. Did you even watch?

  • @hellitsabouttime8487

    @hellitsabouttime8487

    12 күн бұрын

    @@spaceowl5957 unfortunately yes. Truth hurts doesn't it. You fear the oppressed starting to break the chains?

  • @spaceowl5957

    @spaceowl5957

    4 күн бұрын

    @@hellitsabouttime8487 What, who's oppressed? I'm a man too btw, I thought most of the perspectives in the video were very empathetic of mens struggles and encouraging.

  • @kamenhristov7756
    @kamenhristov7756Ай бұрын

    There was a case here in Bulgaria just a couple months ago, where a young father in his 30s has been fighting in the courts to be allowed to see his kids. Not to take custody, but simply actually see the children - no restraining order or past transgressions, just his wife unilaterally deciding to kick him out and not allow him to do so anymore. His wife and her mother lured him to meet, and together strangled him in his own car. Little did they know that was right in view of some CCTVs... Then they drove off with his corpse and reportedly tried to burn it in the woods. And guess what? The court promptly ruled that the killer should be put on house arrest only, reasoning that she is a woman and should be allowed to stay with her kids. Only after some public outcry were the children temporarily taken to their father's parents, and the killers put into actual jail. Although now the court is about to let them go under house arrest again, as they are complaining about bedbugs in their cells. And this is happening in a small Eastern European country, a place that is generally viewed as "extremely backwards, conservative and patriarchal".

  • @leftgrrl

    @leftgrrl

    Ай бұрын

    As an extremely backwards, conservative and patriarchal place, it thinks children need to be raised by their mother. That fits an extremely backwards, conservative and patriarchal mindset.

  • @kamenhristov7756

    @kamenhristov7756

    Ай бұрын

    @@leftgrrl it seems we have a vastly different interpretation of what a "patriarchy" is, if you are even entertaining the thought of attempting to blame said court ruling on such a perceived mindset.

  • @cristiancojocaru9821

    @cristiancojocaru9821

    Ай бұрын

    @@leftgrrl As somebody coming from "an extremely backwards, conservative and patriarchal place" I can tell you my country is topping the charts for gender equality by the standards feminists use, and I've yet to be treated as good as women in anything. But yeah, preach us from your ivory tower about how you've actually got it worse.

  • @ryeguy7941

    @ryeguy7941

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@leftgrrlFor a patriarchy, women tend to benefit a lot from it.

  • @gehrig7593

    @gehrig7593

    Ай бұрын

    @@ryeguy7941 Patriarchy hurts both men and women. The moment you people realize that you'll be free from your ideology.

  • @jd3d_cgi
    @jd3d_cgi2 ай бұрын

    "bridge the divide" "enter new spaces" Yeah thanks mate, that will sort everything out.

  • @automaticshelter130

    @automaticshelter130

    2 ай бұрын

    Thoughts and prayers 😂

  • @ultimatewafflegaming1018

    @ultimatewafflegaming1018

    2 ай бұрын

    the issue is men and women are taking sides pitted against each other which only furthers the gap.. they need to work collectively as humans..they need to stop focusing on whos side theyre on and collectively focus on the issue at hand the problem was never each other but the problem itself...we learn teamwork in kindergarten yet it seems like every adult is so far from it

  • @unnecessaryapostrophe4047

    @unnecessaryapostrophe4047

    2 ай бұрын

    Just be yourself, bro

  • @parker9012

    @parker9012

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@unnecessaryapostrophe4047 also remember to cry a lot, if men just start crying more all our issues will go away 😂

  • @unnecessaryapostrophe4047

    @unnecessaryapostrophe4047

    2 ай бұрын

    @@parker9012 Exactly! Men really need to be more comfortable with showing their [socially acceptable] emotions!

  • @captaingenyus843
    @captaingenyus843Ай бұрын

    Great topic, but there is an issue with this video: I think it is really important - espacially when you talk about a topic as sensitive as this one - to base every argument on empirical evidence. From my perspective the experts is those videos talk a lot about what they see in their lives, or what they feel is the reason for something, but thats just anecdotal "evidence", so there is no real worth to those arguments/statements. I would love to see more data concerning those observations! Thanks for making those videos!

  • @iPyroNigma

    @iPyroNigma

    6 күн бұрын

    The main bulk of the data is seen at the start which helped identify the problem. There is less useful data when it comes to examine the causes therefore it is harder to find solutions grounded on that data. Hopefully more research will be performed in the education field, so that we can address these issues as early as they are present in young boys & men.

  • @laughingvampire7555
    @laughingvampire7555Ай бұрын

    You also forget about the demonization of men in the press, for instance in Argentina, a man wanted divorce then the woman accused him of rape, and the press labeled him a rapist, in all news papers headlines, then the cops finished the investigation and found a text from the exwife to her friend saying "I'm suing him to destroy him" and the police immediately had the proof it was a false accusation. No major news paper reported the reason he was liberated and she was put in jail for false accusations, only they said "They let the rapist go and put her in jail" then the feminists march to protest against the injustice and her family went during the night and light up his house burning him with 3rd degree burns all over his skin.

  • @askmiller
    @askmillerАй бұрын

    The problem with masculinity is that changes are not happening at the same rate across all aspects. Men are still expected to provide for their families even if it is no longer possible for them to do so. Women tend to still prefer men of higher social status than them. Men still pay for dates, even if they make less. Men still are the ones who tend to lose custody of their kids in divorce court. You want to be a stay at home dad? Sure it's possible now but the vast majority of families do not want that. It seems like the modern family is just 2 working parents who use their income to send their kids to daycare so they can keep working.

  • @corvacopia

    @corvacopia

    Ай бұрын

    And that’s it, that’s the problem, you’re spot on, women being able to participate in the work force was supposed to be getting more prosperity for the family and individual agency, and it should’ve been, but in the past 40 years of austerity things have gotten more and more expensive and there’s been rapidly decreasing opportunities to get out of poverty. In the US, the child tax credit that was passed in 2021 reduced child poverty by 50%, but then it skyrocketed right back up to where it was once that policy-which has initially been implemented only temporarily-was allowed to expire. We know how to fix poverty, we know what we need to do, but we’re not doing it.

  • @ex7229

    @ex7229

    Ай бұрын

    Find Christ.

  • @Wolf-ln1ml

    @Wolf-ln1ml

    Ай бұрын

    @@ex7229 How would that actually help?

  • @leslieariane3696

    @leslieariane3696

    Ай бұрын

    Just to clarify that men do not lose custody battles to court as they hardly battle it at all. Most of the time when a man asks for custody, he is awarded it. Why most women end up with majority of custodies, is because the men willingly opted out, not because the women tried to keep the kids away. Sure, it happens but far less than you might want to imply.

  • @askmiller

    @askmiller

    Ай бұрын

    @@leslieariane3696 nationwide, father custody time is 35%. There’s not a single state where it’s more than 50% and some where it’s as low as 22%.

  • @RejonMunchausen
    @RejonMunchausen2 ай бұрын

    My first job in a school in 2000....I am the only male staff member in a school and young boys need positive male role models....24 years of no change...why do young men have no positive role models?

  • @yewo.m

    @yewo.m

    Ай бұрын

    Very true. But I think it would also be good for us men to look at what we ourselves can do, instead of just complaining about society or the government For example, in the home, I've seen many men who tend to abandon their families and kids (or be non-commital), which only worsens the problem of the lack of role models. So I think it would be good to not ignore such things which are in our own locus of control

  • @stsk7

    @stsk7

    Ай бұрын

    good for you for being in the education field, men are very underrepresented and no one talks about it

  • @wnose

    @wnose

    Ай бұрын

    Which is why men like Andrew Tate are so popular. Particularly for those boys who grew up in single mother families.

  • @blaiseutube

    @blaiseutube

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for your service, we need men in education. I would never have the courage to work in schools and live under the constant threat of a trumped up sexual harassment claim.

  • @symptomofsouls

    @symptomofsouls

    Ай бұрын

    I tried to become a teacher and they kicked me out of the program because they said I would be a "toxic influence", which translates to "you're a real man so you shouldn't teach kids"

  • @moreanimals6889
    @moreanimals6889Ай бұрын

    Part of the problem is people seldom draw any distinction between masculinity and toxic masculinity and toxic masculinity is so pervasive many men don't know what masculinity is without the toxic part. Since people fail to draw this distinction and conversations sound like; "Toxic, toxic, toxic, toxic...." it probably feels to men, like, "attack, attack, attack, attack." At the same time, men have never stopped to ask women what women think healthy masculinity is. The same is true for feminity.

  • @autumnjacaranda106
    @autumnjacaranda106Ай бұрын

    Richard Reeves is the only person in this video talking about the real problem and offering real solutions.

  • @p382742937423y4
    @p382742937423y42 ай бұрын

    If men are falling behind most in skandinavian countries, why do we call these countries "equal".?

  • @thinktwice-me7ie

    @thinktwice-me7ie

    2 ай бұрын

    their possibilities are equal

  • @thomasvilhar7529

    @thomasvilhar7529

    2 ай бұрын

    @@thinktwice-me7ie HAHA, You can not be from Scandinavia.

  • @SirRivelion

    @SirRivelion

    2 ай бұрын

    @@thinktwice-me7ie equality of outcome, not equality of opportunities.

  • @toxicmale2264

    @toxicmale2264

    2 ай бұрын

    Women call equality one upping men in everything.

  • @chimbalol

    @chimbalol

    Ай бұрын

    In Norway the working class woman earns more than the working class man, even though feminism here still tell the narrative that women earn less than men. How you may ask? If you exclude the top 10% male and female earners and look at the middle class. You will see women out-earn men, which also explains why so many women here complain about there not being any good men to marry. While men have changed in society and are open to marry women who earns both less and more than them, women on the other hand have been reluctant to changed, so its not men that need to change, we already have, its women who needs to change. But news and society still blame it on men. Now I'm taking about marriage here but when it comes to hookups and fwb the situation is not like this, women here don't really care much how much you earn as a man when it comes to short term fun.

  • @dragonbeardable
    @dragonbeardable2 ай бұрын

    This liberal guy just blames men in the "solutions" section lmao. "Men need to enter spaces to have more empathy for other people.."

  • @dogukan127

    @dogukan127

    Ай бұрын

    how is that blaming?

  • @dragonbeardable

    @dragonbeardable

    Ай бұрын

    @@dogukan127 That won't help men. He's basically just saying these young men need to "check their privilege" and have empathy for others, when in reality society really needs to have more empathy for these last young men.

  • @AnImperialGod

    @AnImperialGod

    Ай бұрын

    I agree. The opinion of Neil Shyminsky is pretty consistent to what has been told to us men in the past by feminism, and does not offer any particular solutions. His own "solution" is also part of the concept of toxic masculinity, defined by himself, by him telling us men "how all of us men should be, and remind ourselves how privileged we actually are as men." No, sir, what you offer is not a solution. It will not solve anything, just cover the problem, turning us back to where we are, again. On the other hand, Richard Reeves provides an insightful analysis, with a refreshing conclusion for us men, with actions that can be taken at the government level and as policies. I liked his opinion profoundly. It seems that he has thoroughly thought about solutions for this new problem and how we can close the gap between men and women and create more equality, by taking actions.

  • @sblbb929

    @sblbb929

    Ай бұрын

    @@dogukan127 the same way "pull yourself up by the bootstrings!" isn't helpful but more blaming poor people for supposetly being unwilling to just become wealthy

  • @FieldMarshalFeels

    @FieldMarshalFeels

    Ай бұрын

    His "solution" is just a very roundabout way of saying, "I don't care, haha sucks to suck."

  • @NicholasDunbar
    @NicholasDunbar10 күн бұрын

    What happens when women say things like "men are dangerous", "men are privileged", "men are not emotionally available"? While there is a grain of truth to those statements, it is not easy for most young males to hear this when they don't feel that is who they are.

  • @ThiagoMaiaSs
    @ThiagoMaiaSs5 күн бұрын

    The political divide comes from "affirmative action" laws. The left, globally, proposes laws that put women in a privileged position against men (legally, not in a general social status).Thus, men will vote for the other side. Women will vote for the side that is promissing that they will give them advantages. This is something that applies to any topic, being gender, race, sexual preference, origin, etc... If a political group is defending laws that put you in disadvantage, you vote for the other side. If the grup is proposing laws that put you in advantage, you vote for this side. In the end, this is another topic in which government intervention causes distortions that in the end harm society. Just as a parallel, this is the same thing that happens in the economy when governments intervene, which is something that has been more broadly discussed since big governments became a thing worldwide.

  • @immoralwombat6843
    @immoralwombat68432 ай бұрын

    This is like rich people saying to poor people; stop being poor. Neil Shyminsky is one of those sociopaths who profit from this hurdle.

  • @penguingobrrbrr353

    @penguingobrrbrr353

    Ай бұрын

    Define rich ?. How much money do you have to have to be 'rich'.

  • @YellowKing1986

    @YellowKing1986

    Ай бұрын

    @@penguingobrrbrr353 By that question you are telling us you missed his point completely. Read again. It wasn't about money.

  • @thevoid5503

    @thevoid5503

    Ай бұрын

    They only suddenly "care" now, because they will bodies in uniform when war becomes inevitable. Don't do it, men !

  • @soulsynthesissubject

    @soulsynthesissubject

    Ай бұрын

    @immoralwombat6843 I am struggling to understand your point. Is it that we tell men to suck it up, but the systemic issues they’re facing are material? Is a cultural hegemony of misogyny going to fix that? Perhaps we need material solutions to those issues which as this documentary suggests those are issues we’re all facing. I think spotlighting the plight of men is important for the cultural component.

  • @thepandaken5475

    @thepandaken5475

    Ай бұрын

    Shyminsky, you say? No way!

  • @ace51017
    @ace510172 ай бұрын

    In my opinion, Richard Reeves was the most reasonable guest of the three.

  • @christopherlynch3314

    @christopherlynch3314

    2 ай бұрын

    Agree. That guy really presents well, I am going to find him and follow him.

  • @deleted01

    @deleted01

    2 ай бұрын

    The other two guests were there to placate the feminists.

  • @christopherlynch3314

    @christopherlynch3314

    2 ай бұрын

    Found, subscribed, enjoying.

  • @franknada8235

    @franknada8235

    2 ай бұрын

    I dont know who the Feminist guy in box stripe shirt is but never listen to him. He is on team delusion.

  • @prosperenfantinylosgeograf2721

    @prosperenfantinylosgeograf2721

    2 ай бұрын

    What did the others said that was unreasonable? I feel like they all had somewhat balanced opinions.

  • @colinmunro3158
    @colinmunro3158Ай бұрын

    As someone who has lived on both sides of the proverbial fence I can say with certainty that the problem is two fold. On the one hand there are systemic issues faced by people of all genders, some are the same and some are different and those tie in with most other issues in society making them not isolated to gender. On the other hand many of our social spaces are hotbeds for radicalization of all types, especially in online spaces. Companies like Google, Facebook, and Reddit claim to have strong policies against radicalization when in reality radicalization is a very real although originally unintended outcome of their core business models. They're all fighting for our attention, and the most economically efficient ways to do so involve echo chambers where one's preconceived notions are challenged as little as possible to reduce friction in staying to watch one more video, or read one more post, etc.

  • @cwpv2477

    @cwpv2477

    Ай бұрын

    how can u live on both sides?

  • @Red80008

    @Red80008

    22 күн бұрын

    @@cwpv2477 now, how about you sit down and think a bit about your question and all of the potential answers, my friend. you can't be that uncreative and uneducated to not be able to answer that question...

  • @cwpv2477

    @cwpv2477

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Red80008 these are ironic question mister superior complex

  • @yurik8468

    @yurik8468

    11 күн бұрын

    @@cwpv2477 well, at least you can google through vpn the news of a random country and translate it with a translator. The point is clear. It often hurts. Greetings from Ukraine.

  • @cwpv2477

    @cwpv2477

    11 күн бұрын

    @@yurik8468 this discussion is about gender not about nationality =)

  • @benjamindavis2475
    @benjamindavis2475Ай бұрын

    Im a 31 yo man in Texas. I feel largely shielded from most of this, i feel like life is mostly good for me. My parents raised me to try hard and don't worry about what other people are doing. I am polite to women but i wouldn't let anyone walk all over me regardless of their gender. No one can stop me from being a good person, i just do what i think is right and look for people who respect that. In my experience everyone respects men who work hard and provide for people around them. That's my personal experience for what it's worth.

  • @automaticshelter130
    @automaticshelter1302 ай бұрын

    I have survived an armed robbery and attempted murder but according to the professor at Cambridge, who can’t even change his own oil, I am too comfortable

  • @martinkarkossa4714

    @martinkarkossa4714

    2 ай бұрын

    well women are also victims of robbery and murder. He isn't saying all men live comfortable lives, he's making a generalization

  • @Frivals

    @Frivals

    2 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @christianoronaldo9162

    @christianoronaldo9162

    2 ай бұрын

    @@martinkarkossa4714 If we look at the stats on murder, women are more likely to be comfortable.

  • @shwah8299

    @shwah8299

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@christianoronaldo9162what are you talking about about? Who is doing all the murder??

  • @bullshitdepartment

    @bullshitdepartment

    2 ай бұрын

    @@shwah8299 the root of all your problems is yourself

  • @GameFuMaster
    @GameFuMaster2 ай бұрын

    29:25 patriarchy, but women get all the scholarships and all the affirmative actions. Sure mr expert

  • @martinfiedler4317

    @martinfiedler4317

    Ай бұрын

    When my grandfather was a young man, women could not get employment without consent of their husband, they could not have a bank account without his consent and "abuse" within the marriage was practically considered non-existent. THAT I call "patriarchy"...

  • @KnightofAges

    @KnightofAges

    Ай бұрын

    @@martinfiedler4317 Please go watch the 1895 short film by Lumière "workers leaving the factory", avaliable here on this site. You will notice that it's an overwhelming amount of women and just a few men. So much for THAT "not allowed to get employment" fairytale...

  • @spindle7397

    @spindle7397

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@martinfiedler4317yeah you just said when your grandfather was young. That's not today.

  • @martinfiedler4317

    @martinfiedler4317

    Ай бұрын

    @@spindle7397That's the point. It's a thing of the past. At least in the so-called "developed" West. But I guess young men today need to be punished for what is now considered the "sins" of their ancestors... 😒

  • @sanniepstein4835

    @sanniepstein4835

    Ай бұрын

    @@martinfiedler4317 My female ancestors were attending university in the 1920s. You must be 150 years old. I don't think the poorer women of that time were wishing they could spend 12 hours a day in the coal mines along with their men. But poor men don't count, apparently.

  • @DerTaktiker
    @DerTaktikerАй бұрын

    Writes book about men's issues. Gets interviewed with the question "When did you first start hating women?" How does it for you as a feminist make sense to say supporting men means hating women, when all you do is support women? It just screams "I hate men". Given how prevalent these aggressively dehumanizing statements about men at large are, It really feels to me at this point like women are intrinsically more valuable than men to the point that the same argument for one sex doesn't hold for the other no matter the circumstances. Just reading my last sentence again with 'men' and 'women' reversed instantly gives me an emotional response that makes it feel like women are oppressed victims and we need urgent changes, but keep the sentence as it is and in a day you'll have forgotten about it. Because nobody cares. But let me ask you, the feminist, a question: When did you first start hating men?

  • @russetpotato8941
    @russetpotato8941Ай бұрын

    At the end of the day, men want to be strong so they can be useful. Whether that's physical strength, financial strength, emotional strength, etc. I think the (or at least one) major issue is that strength and masculinity are inexorably linked together, and we have been admonishing men for desiring personal strength, and then shaming them for not being masculine. A common sentiment that seems to come along with recent gender equality movements is that men should be less masculine; that we shouldn't want, or need, strength unless it also empowers women. This has led to men being reprimanded, labelled as toxic, and called bigots or misogynists for pursuing virtually any type of personal strength. The unilateral thinking that women's strength can only come with men's loss is damaging and inaccurate, but it comes from a place where that feels very true. It feels like men aren't allowed to be strong anymore because we're being told that men shouldn't be masculine anymore. And then we're shown that being a weak man is not desirable or useful; men are expected to jump in and protect people when something dangerous happens. Men are supposed to provide for their family. The men that are most idolized by both men and women are the truly masculine men: capable fathers, strong role models, unbreakable pillars of strength and support. We want to be useful. We want to be appreciated. We want to give something of value to the world. The issue is, we're being told one thing and shown another. We're told not to be masculine, and then shown that masculine men are more valued than us. That's why we feel worthless.

  • @givrally7634
    @givrally7634Ай бұрын

    I see all the wonderful examples in the comments and I want to raise mine : In France, bunch of new laws were passed to enforce parity in public positions. The city of Sarcelles had its municipal elections cancelled because the ballots had too many women. Of course, a lot of people cried misogyny and "applying the letter of the law instead of its spirit" The city of Paris was hit with a 90 thousand euros fine for having 69% of women as directors, a long way from the 40% parity requirement (=40-60% range for each gender). Everyone cried misogyny again, and the minister for gender equality (yes, it's a real thing) cancelled the fine. The mayor then said that, since the fine was not owed anymore, she'd give those 90k to... a women's rights group. Rules for thee, not for me.

  • @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat

    @twelvecatsinatrenchcoat

    Ай бұрын

    As a lifelong liberal whose voted for one Republican candidate in my entire life, reading stuff like this makes me want to vote for the Orange Man.

  • @user-te3qm5mv6r

    @user-te3qm5mv6r

    Ай бұрын

    Europe is a lot different than the US.

  • @givrally7634

    @givrally7634

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-te3qm5mv6rAnd the video says that this is a worldwide phenomenon, so what's your point ?

  • @chingo9002

    @chingo9002

    Ай бұрын

    @@givrally7634Worldwide doesn't mean its the same everywhere.

  • @givrally7634

    @givrally7634

    Ай бұрын

    @@chingo9002 "Worldwide phenomenon" means it happens (close to) everywhere. Again, what point are you guys trying to make ? That France doesn't count because it's not in the four countries mentioned in the video?

  • @OctagonalSquare
    @OctagonalSquareАй бұрын

    The young men see liberal content creators laughing at male suicide rates, depression, and so on. They see them claiming “you run the world, you don’t get to be depressed” while they struggle to make ends meet and the content creator is living in luxury. They see women on the left screaming that all men are horrible. They see liberal women shouting at rallies, telling men “you have to get fixed to date me” and say “I’m not dealing with that”. Young men, especially straight men, are being FORCED out of the liberal camp, and you know it. It isn’t the appeal of conservatism, it’s the repulsion of liberalism.

  • @oatmiser3110

    @oatmiser3110

    Ай бұрын

    or it's people like you that choose to only listen to the worst groups and make no attempt to find others, then declare everything as wrong. Should I judge a whole religion based on Westboro baptists too?

  • @edwardcamp3376

    @edwardcamp3376

    Ай бұрын

    @@oatmiser3110 You're comment is repulsive and insulting. Basically, you just proved his point.

  • @oatmiser3110

    @oatmiser3110

    Ай бұрын

    @@edwardcamp3376 You're insulted by me calling a certain mindset childish and useless? Either prove that it isn't, or find a better mindset informed by actual facts.

  • @dosadoodle

    @dosadoodle

    Ай бұрын

    I haven't seen the things that you're talking about in real life, and I know many very left-leaning people. If you only see these things on social media or in a news source, be aware that these are outrage machines that make money from your attention. They want you angry and watching so that they keep making money off of you. Social media in particular is cancer for society.

  • @aAverageFan

    @aAverageFan

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@oatmiser3110 It is a mainstream liberal belief that men are privileged and so they actively ignore or fight against those who care about our issues

  • @nickharmon2157
    @nickharmon215727 күн бұрын

    The Andrew Tate crowd is only a portion of this. I’m a Gen Z conservative in America and I find that crowd rather distasteful and reactionary. These graphs mostly show women getting further left, men are trending conservative only in comparison. The real story is the radicalization of young women and the erosion of the values of western civilization. The radicalization of a smaller number of young men could be significantly dangerous, but far more detrimental to society is the erosion of western civilization’s values among young women. These radical young men are reactionary, a symptom of a problem. A progressive problem.

  • @FetterSack

    @FetterSack

    27 күн бұрын

    wtf literally every type of conservatism is reactionary. Also, it's true that young women are slightly shifting left, but actually everyone should be radicalizing far left. Apart from the few rich capitalists who can take huge profits from other people's work, all these other people should be uniting against the capital, everything else, all conservatism is just dumb.

  • @stanrix
    @stanrix29 күн бұрын

    When ever I hear “educated men” I automatically think “indoctrinated men”

  • @rsmith4339
    @rsmith43392 ай бұрын

    This is so ham-handedly edited it is impossible to not to notice that this isn't an interview , or a conversation , but a constructed narrative . I can't even focus on the intended message .

  • @guncolony

    @guncolony

    2 ай бұрын

    Totally agreed, i would like to be able to listen to the raw interviews.

  • @editorrbr2107

    @editorrbr2107

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s DW, what do you expect

  • @dannoringer

    @dannoringer

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, although it's interesting, I must agree with your point. A 4 way discussion might have been more interesting, where all 4 could have fully participated.

  • @zlinos139

    @zlinos139

    2 ай бұрын

    @@editorrbr2107What's wrong with DW?

  • @moetocafe

    @moetocafe

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zlinos139 nothing, they've always been woke

  • @FireOccator
    @FireOccator2 ай бұрын

    There's always a gap between men and women. Just ask people about conscription, divorce, abortion, child support, and discrimination.

  • @declup

    @declup

    2 ай бұрын

    I've never been discriminated against. At least in any of the things people generally think about when they think about discrimination. Perhaps you mean something in particular by the word "discrimination", @FireOccator?

  • @anssiluomaranta34

    @anssiluomaranta34

    2 ай бұрын

    Regarding consription - typically women take care of the children while men fight. I suppose it could also be the other way round also but someone has to stay at home with the children. As a man I would prefer it is me who does the fighting and I would question what kind of a man is someone who wants to stay at home with the kids and send the mother of his children to do the fighting?

  • @FireOccator

    @FireOccator

    2 ай бұрын

    @@anssiluomaranta34 Your view of men is disturbing.

  • @metaterrestrial197

    @metaterrestrial197

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@anssiluomaranta34 and couples who don't have children ?

  • @Janoip

    @Janoip

    2 ай бұрын

    looking at the birth rates, not really an argument@@anssiluomaranta34

  • @Piratewaffle43
    @Piratewaffle43Ай бұрын

    I was wondering why the comment section was so conservative, but then realized there are no women on the internet.

  • @exoskeleton5660

    @exoskeleton5660

    Ай бұрын

    BAHAHAHBSBNJFDBB my thoughts exactly 😭 I keep finding comments that are like "I had to stop the video after a minute because I couldn't handle how liberal it is" Like bro, these are experts, it doesn't matter if you think they are or not, they are, and you literally just admitted to not even watching the video..? So like... how do you even know that they are so liberal when you didn't even watch the video..?

  • @TaCC2

    @TaCC2

    Ай бұрын

    experts in gaslighting men. yes

  • @pahakuutti

    @pahakuutti

    29 күн бұрын

    @@exoskeleton5660 Feminist experts. Surely You realized that after watching the video. Reeves even admitted the fact. They simply cannot go against the dogma of feminism- Which is; always put women first. How is one supposed to tackle the problems of men with that mindset.? Impossible.

  • @tristancoffin
    @tristancoffinАй бұрын

    Yeah this is highly biased. Sorry I can't watch someone who only pulls data from a single part of the political spectrum. The flaw isn't that you pulled from a single part but rather that your data seems to come from part of the political spectrum at all thus implying at minimum there is likely bias. Not sure how I am supposed to believe anything you say with that as a backdrop.

  • @sergsandoval
    @sergsandoval2 ай бұрын

    Invest in young men or society will crumble

  • @vlajster

    @vlajster

    2 ай бұрын

    They're only investing in TRANS men these days

  • @Pou1gie1

    @Pou1gie1

    2 ай бұрын

    @@vlajsterHating on a different group (i.e. Trans men) to make yourself feel better or more powerful by putting them down or scapegoating -- is NOT the solution. They exist too, and their existence doesn't make your existence less important.

  • @michaelthompson9548

    @michaelthompson9548

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@vlajsterhave a whinge cry baby 😂

  • @madmax5841

    @madmax5841

    2 ай бұрын

    @@declup That's because every street, building, sewage and electric system, basically everything was built by them. Civilization is a male endeavor, so of course society won't crumble if it doesn't invest a lot in women

  • @berrymckockiner5883

    @berrymckockiner5883

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Pou1gie1well they constantly att us

  • @shitboy_
    @shitboy_Ай бұрын

    "young men feel entitled to feeling comfortable and save" bro everyone is entitled to that

  • @LeafMaltieze

    @LeafMaltieze

    Ай бұрын

    I disagree on everyone feeling comfortable. Everyone should have the right to seek comfort, but what that means varies massively from person to person. I do agree that everyone should have the right to safety.

  • @superdudehello

    @superdudehello

    Ай бұрын

    @@LeafMaltieze eh everyone has the right to comfort if anyone has the right to comfort and just because it varies from person to person doesn't mean it can't be quantified it just changes and that's entirely human.

  • @Tespri

    @Tespri

    Ай бұрын

    Safety and comfortable feeling are desires not human rights. It's your own duty to ensure that you're living comfortable and in safe.

  • @superdudehello

    @superdudehello

    Ай бұрын

    @@Tespri As a egalitarian I disagree. Comfort shouldn't only be there for the rich or well off but forever to rest after a long day. To assume that some are not worth comfort is to say no one is worth comfort because what it takes to acquire comfort can change.

  • @Tespri

    @Tespri

    Ай бұрын

    @@superdudehello Should a cave man thousands of years ago have same comfort as an average man right now? Was their human rights broke by the nature when their life wasn't as comfortable as modern humans have? This is how easy it's to break your flawed reasoning. Also what is comfort is highly subjective. For some it's comfortable that no one ever talks back at them. For psychopaths it's comfortable that you never report to cops on their actions.

  • @rationallyright4626
    @rationallyright4626Ай бұрын

    Here in America there was a boy that was "gR@ped" by an adult woman, and she found him after he turn 18, and sued him for back child support. She was never punished for what she did to a child.

  • @Tate525

    @Tate525

    Ай бұрын

    Let me guess that child who is now barely above 18 has to pay child support? When he was himself a child just years ago. Welcome to America!!

  • @ducklingscap897

    @ducklingscap897

    Ай бұрын

    And in my country a young girl (15 years old) was raped by 7 men (20 and older). She was left unconscious and severely injured and in the end froze to death as she laid more or less naked on cold ground. All rapists got a conditional discharge... What do we learn of that? That both sexes suffer from an unjust system.

  • @rationallyright4626

    @rationallyright4626

    Ай бұрын

    @ducklingscap897 That is why I specified where I lived and mentioned issues that happened here in my country. The video is mainly talking about develped western countries, so I mentioned the western country I live in.

  • @JustSomebody5

    @JustSomebody5

    Ай бұрын

    Source please?

  • @Babezilla

    @Babezilla

    Ай бұрын

    Cry about it

  • @vancouversworstdrivers
    @vancouversworstdrivers25 күн бұрын

    I think men also are struggling with companies/governments hiring or prioritizing women being hired just to meet a quota vs actually hiring based on skills/education.

  • @tay_paradox

    @tay_paradox

    11 күн бұрын

    "but its illegal and goes against my narrative so it couldn't be happening"

  • @MrGeoSim
    @MrGeoSim14 күн бұрын

    I can't take that professor from Cambrian college seriously. He has the audacity to say that men can walk through the world without fear of danger while women constantly worry about their physical safety?! This is gaslighting plain and simple. The fear of possible danger is why men are far more likely to take up combat sports or carry firearms. 80% of murder victims are men, NOT women! Men are socially inculcated to live a life of deference to the fears and needs of women while it is THEIR fears and needs that go neglected.

  • @spaceowl5957

    @spaceowl5957

    12 күн бұрын

    True the statistics paint exactly the opposite picture

  • @yurik8468

    @yurik8468

    11 күн бұрын

    @@spaceowl5957 Not relevant. Misunderstanding According to the data given by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, worldwide, 79% of homicide victims are men. This is the only statistic he cites. You disgust me

  • @tay_paradox

    @tay_paradox

    11 күн бұрын

    @@yurik8468 i think you misread what he said, he was agreeing

  • @yurik8468

    @yurik8468

    11 күн бұрын

    @@tay_paradox Oh, I didn't read it correctly.

  • @porcelaincrown

    @porcelaincrown

    4 күн бұрын

    I agree that men have to go through a lot but I think its important to recognise that men still have a fighting chance. I know that as a women, I am biologically weaker than men, and even though I do practice self defence, I am helpless if anyone decides to actually attack me. I think its important to recognise that a lot of the paranoia women have towards violence isnt completely unfounded because of statistics.

  • @sergarlantyrell7847
    @sergarlantyrell78472 ай бұрын

    When Ms Evans was referring to "the crisis of masculinity" she alleges that men view women as a lower status so if they are unemployed or don't have a nice house and get rejected, THAT is why... Because they view women as lower status. I think that's condescending bollocks! The problem is literally in what she said: First off, "their advances"... First problem is guys are always expected to have to make the first move, its stressful, puts us in an exposed position and NOBODY ever asks US out in return. Secondly, she's already characterising them as low status because of their employment status or because of their house etc. In relationships, women judge men on these things, but women don't typically get judged in return. If women insist on tieing men's worth to things like their jobs, is it any wonder that there is friction when men are struggling to get ahead? Men don't look down on women because of their jobs, but she is literally proving the point that women absolutely do that to men.

  • @cancerino666
    @cancerino66615 күн бұрын

    29:23 this dude clearly lived a privileged life (as have I), and never had to deal with military conscription, not being able to see your kids because courts give parental rights to the mothers by default... the difference is I have met those people. the difference is I can think about the struggles of both women and men.

  • @fallinegg

    @fallinegg

    7 күн бұрын

    i like the part about where he says men move through the world with relative safety.....not mentioning the fact that 99% of all fatalities in war are men not women....i certainly wasnt moving around afghanistan with a relative sense of safety.

  • @pyrokinetic8995

    @pyrokinetic8995

    5 күн бұрын

    @@fallinegg I would argue though this isnt because war is more dangerous for men but because 99% of soldiers are men. Though i would be curious on the death rate of woman in armies and men, its quite a morbid statistic, but it could help stop this conversation.

  • @atheon596

    @atheon596

    2 күн бұрын

    You complain about military conscription and courts being biased against men yet fail to realize that it was men who set these things up to begin with.

  • @KriegerIngarten

    @KriegerIngarten

    2 күн бұрын

    @@atheon596you are the voice of madness

  • @atheon596

    @atheon596

    Күн бұрын

    @@KriegerIngarten I am not. I speak the solemn truth that many refuse to accept. Patriarchy is the cause of all our problems, but we men have been brainwashed into thinking that women and social progress are the causes of our shortcomings.

  • @jaymcdougal2285
    @jaymcdougal22859 күн бұрын

    I am 47 and a gay male and I have pondered many times on the topic of masculinity vs femininity. I grew up on a farm in a religious community with very defined roles for men and women. I got married to a woman, had 3 daughters and a son then came out at 35 years old. People have found it interesting that I have a gift for fixing things such as cars or I can build you a house or chop down a tree but I also play the piano and have a gift for decorating and clothing style and I am a very nurturing parent. Who determines which of these characteristics are feminine and which are masculine traits? I have come to realize that we all have feminine and masculine traits and I have finally embraced them both within myself. I have come to find it very beautiful and very powerful. I think there is a lack of both women and men who embrace both the feminine and masculine energy (however those are defined) within themselves to become their true authentic selves without the worry of what societal norms have historically been.

  • @pyrokinetic8995

    @pyrokinetic8995

    5 күн бұрын

    true words, true words. Society shoves words like masculine or feminine like these things mean anything in the modern world. I've come to the belief that unless its a medical situation where a doctor needs to know, things like gender or masculine/feminine whatever are completely useless in the modern day

  • @reezis1619

    @reezis1619

    3 күн бұрын

    There is a scientific definition of masculine and feminine energy. They have already analyzed the effects on testosterone vs estrogen on human psychology and behavior. More estrogen makes a person more nurturing, caring, loving. More testosterone makes a person purpose oriented, logical, less emotional, firmer boundaries etc.. The ideas of masculinity and femininity is not just something made up by society there are scientific observations behind it aswell.

  • @flvio8992

    @flvio8992

    3 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@reezis1619 the author of the original comment is right. intragender differences become a more important predicate for the development of society and the elimination of its shortcomings. each of us is an individual with a unique set of abilities, hormonal levels, physical abilities from person to person, regardless of gender. down with gender slavery, which enslaved women, destroyed so much lives for truly animal purposes, and which now provokes radical feminists and male conservatists into misandrist/misogynistic statements.

  • @pyrokinetic8995

    @pyrokinetic8995

    9 сағат бұрын

    @@reezis1619 Source? This does not sound accurate to any research I have read. Estrogen and testosterone has no affect on psychology in that sense. The only thing I know that does change between them is that emotions are more inhibited with testosterone - those with lesser testosterone / more estrogen (not always, but overall) are more able to express emotion. Not to say those with testosterone do not have emotion, just that it is harder to express it. E.g how many men can be extremely upset but still find it hard to cry even if they want to.

  • @daniTise3270
    @daniTise3270Ай бұрын

    To be honest, this video, most likely unintentionally, has acted as a fantastic case study as to why male attendance at Universities is dropping. As someone with a degree, I have nothing but utter contempt for the vast majority of career academics who dare to lecture working men and women on reality that they themselves wouldn't know if they tripped over it. To embellish an excellent quote, "Some academics and journalists might stumble over the truth, but the overwhelming majority pick themselves up and hurry along as if nothing has happened".

  • @LuckyCl0ver

    @LuckyCl0ver

    Ай бұрын

    omg this shifted my whole perspective of the video. I've been reading the comments and there are a lot of valid points raised such as why is this video only focused on men as if they are the problem and they need to change. Whether it was intentional or not there is a huge bias playing a role here and your comment introduced the whole class thing. At the end of the day it's just a bunch of upper-middle-class ppl telling the working class how to live and what they are doing wrong without understanding the problem or ever experiencing it themselves firsthand.

  • @coinbowl

    @coinbowl

    Ай бұрын

    all politics is classism

  • @ryeguy7941

    @ryeguy7941

    Ай бұрын

    I loathe academia. They live in a bubble and echo chamber and really don't understand how the real world works.

  • @DaglessMc

    @DaglessMc

    Ай бұрын

    @@LuckyCl0ver I find these types of people always tend to go on about "social media echochambers" especially as a way to downplay conclusions others have come to that they disagree with, as if they are immune to the same effect and their arguments and opinions are unassailable, as if their sources are always the most truthful correct ones. the argument holds no water for me.

  • @LuckyCl0ver

    @LuckyCl0ver

    Ай бұрын

    @@DaglessMc am not sure classism can still be a contributing factor as well as gender and race etc. also I feel like it's always good to question the things ppl are telling you even if the stats come from reliable sources they can still be presented and used in a biased way .I agree that downplaying others research isn't right. But since everyone else was talking about gender this comment did shift my perspective as in opened another possible outcome. Overall rather than one person being right I think there are multiple ppl that are correct simultaneously. I don't think the researchers are wrong but some of them do seem biased. Plus the researcher do have stats to back them up where as the comments are more so observations. Which are speculation that we are presuming to be true but may not be. again I think this whole thing is very gray-scale. So it difficult to agree with just one side. (Sorry for the long comment 😔 I really liked Ur comments that's why I had so much to say)

  • @OneAmongBillions
    @OneAmongBillions2 ай бұрын

    Men are needed as women are needed, to take action against the predatory, exploitive, and cruel among us.

  • @charmyzard

    @charmyzard

    2 ай бұрын

    Who unfortunately are the ones behind modern women and their militancies.

  • @Saberdud

    @Saberdud

    2 ай бұрын

    among us

  • @spn7351

    @spn7351

    2 ай бұрын

    mogus

  • @crankyunicorn4423

    @crankyunicorn4423

    Ай бұрын

    Finally some good sense

  • @teafanatic8452

    @teafanatic8452

    Ай бұрын

    AMONG US!!!!!!

  • @CraigJS91
    @CraigJS9110 күн бұрын

    Women have already achieved equality in the sense that they have the same opportunity to do anything men do. The fact that there aren't as many female engineers is not necessarily a problem that needs to be fixed. It could be, and studies back this up, that Women on average just tend to prefer different types of jobs. Notice how no-one ever points out how it's an injustice that teaching, human resources, cosmetology, and nursing are fields totally dominated by women.

  • @AQS521
    @AQS5212 күн бұрын

    Ive never met a man who cared how much a woman has accomplished but ive met many women who have accomplished a lot with the main goal being to show all the men she can do what he can. The irony is that men dont actually care about these things when women do it.

  • @Idontwantahandle3
    @Idontwantahandle32 ай бұрын

    There's often an unspoken expectation that a man's worth is closely tied to his finances, especially in the eyes of the opposite sex. This can add an extra layer of complexity to dating and relationships in these modern times when many women are making as much as men. Many women still hold onto the traditional belief that a man should out-earn them to be considered valuable and worthwhile pursuits as potential partners, and many believe that men should still take up much of the financial responsibility in dating and the relationship. Now, you have to be a high earner as a man to, well, be a real man.

  • @Jo_876

    @Jo_876

    2 ай бұрын

    There was a video from Alice Cappell that talked about this some, that feminism has failed because its original goals have actually be discarded for this "consumer capitalism" version of feminism where traditional feminine values were actually not done away with. That means that hypergamy is still VERY MUCH a part of women's value set, which is anathema toward equality.

  • @siyabongampongwana990

    @siyabongampongwana990

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly...That's the main problem. Money makes the man when it comes to women. A criminal with a benz and all the flashy stuff gets more women they say...uh a man working in some lab trying to come up with a cure for cancer.

  • @Janoip

    @Janoip

    2 ай бұрын

    But at least we now get he funny Videos of Woman hitting the "Wall" and cry in social media about that@@Jo_876

  • @qibriti3220

    @qibriti3220

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe men need to start bringing more to the table, like household duties, like being faithful, like childrearing...

  • @jasonhill2879

    @jasonhill2879

    2 ай бұрын

    @@qibriti3220they already do

  • @b98a4c37
    @b98a4c3727 күн бұрын

    Men don’t matter, we get it. After decades of drilling it into us, we get it. Worthless and useless is absolutely right, except of course when there’s work to be done. Some man somewhere some centuries ago did a bad thing so I don’t matter. My actions are not what I am judged by, but the actions of some person I never met. I stopped fighting it long ago and will never again try, no matter what anybody writes in any book. I accept a life of being a lesser being.

  • @Trahloc
    @Trahloc5 күн бұрын

    ~30:00 We don't "feel entitled to being comfortable and safe" we just aren't afraid, whether that's rational or not, we believe we can deal with what happens. Modern women, which there is a strong argument are the safest beings to ever walk this earth, are terrified. Patriarchy isn't to blame for that. Also, blaming men for not being afraid is grade A toxic behavior.

  • @JesseSytzeGoossens
    @JesseSytzeGoossens2 ай бұрын

    Media and social media. Elites thrive on a polarised society

  • @huginug

    @huginug

    2 ай бұрын

    exactly, how are people so blind that social media has rotted peoples minds and they all live in echo chambers

  • @dr_flunks

    @dr_flunks

    2 ай бұрын

    elites, non-elites, and everyone else thrives on polarization. also every other genus in the primate phyllum.

  • @dannoringer

    @dannoringer

    2 ай бұрын

    I think younger people are less well equipped than more mature people in trying to avoid a place where different legitimate views are expressed in a non confrontational manner. I think quite often young people are sucked into echo chambers, where their own views are reinforced, only because of groupings online, whereas genuine debating skills are dying on the vine, because there are no platforms that provide serious discussion between serious people who genuinely wish to explore the landscape of an issue or area of thought. However to a degree even older people can be sucked into that context all too often, and find themselves in a cage with trolls who aren't interested in serious discussions, rather they wish to hurl rocks, and nothing more.

  • @ronin6158

    @ronin6158

    2 ай бұрын

    working as intended

  • @AlexMaloney-wr9mw

    @AlexMaloney-wr9mw

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely! In the corporations are very fond of women's liberation and empowerment as they are the bigger shoppers and more easily influenced by emotional shopping experiences

  • @richdobbs6595
    @richdobbs65952 ай бұрын

    I think it is interesting that Neil Shyminsky brings up the concept young women go through life worrying about their safety in public spaces and that young men don't have the same concern. Statistically, men are at greater risk in most societies. But they don't worry about it, so they should be be listening to women's concerns. Even though they are at greater risk. And they aren't worrying about it.

  • @mmm-xc8zk

    @mmm-xc8zk

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, that part was pretty bizarre. Being asked what we can do to bridge the divide between men and women he basically said 'men should listen to women because we live in a patriarchy' and to 'vaccinate yong children with feminism'. While the reason there is such a divide with many of these issues is, that we at this point literally ONLY listen to the women and that mens disadvantages are either claimed to be not real or that they can be ignored. And then again, coming from a very high status, privileged man (university professor in bloody Canada lol) who HIMSELF simply couldn't even understand what inequalities and fears 'ordinary' men face. He has once more managed to insert the notion of 'all mens problems are mens own fault because patriarchy and the only real victims are women' into the conversation.

  • @sircastic959

    @sircastic959

    Ай бұрын

    @@mmm-xc8zk Did we really expect any diffrent though? It is very notable that only one out of three guests hammers home the issues in education for boys and proposes solutions that directly arget those problems. At least the lady is mentioning hard economic factors. But, sorry, good luck changing those, unless you got a working fusion reactor lined up for the decade. The fact that we have to decarbonize alone is going to do very unpretty things to our global economy. There WILL be less to go around on a fundamental resource level and we are limited to improvements in efficiency through computing. (which is not going to be all that great for the labor market in the interim too) So you are simply NOT getting a break on the global economy side and have to assume that we will have to work with stagnation and won´t be able to get real growth. Rendering the proposed solution entirely wishful thinking. Or at best, very hard to pull off. Still, I can respect that approach. Meanwhile this quality educator sees the very culture war issues as a possible solution. "Men should listen to womens issues." Gotta be the BEST joke you can come up with when we are talking about young mens issues.

  • @heltengundersen

    @heltengundersen

    Ай бұрын

    The people on this panel are extreme. I had about 10 WTF moments during this video. Quite remarkable statements, even from the very beginning when the guy needed to excuse talking about boys for 5 minutes by praising women's issues. There is no equality until it is possible to talk about boys' issues without this long tirade of "women have it bad" disclaimer. Disgraceful. Nobody has ever done the reverse in the last 100 years.

  • @richdobbs6595

    @richdobbs6595

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@heltengundersen Still, this a mainstream channel that is government sponsored from Germany talking about issues that were considered fringe 6 years ago. The guy has always been on the soft, tepid side of advocacy for men and boys, but this was definitely the one where he was most weak in his advocay that I've ever heard.

  • @kiri101

    @kiri101

    Ай бұрын

    I think this is another issue where there is a huge class divide and quite frankly the man speaking has had a soft life - I don't disagree with the rest of his points but if anything I think he's missing a trick, many young men and women could have a productive dialogue on safety in public.

  • @rsk6929
    @rsk6929Ай бұрын

    I'm insulted that you insinuated that because I am a man that is conservative I am also uneducated and an Andrew Tate fan.

  • @c.rutherford
    @c.rutherfordКүн бұрын

    I just went to lunch with my ex girlfriend a few days ago and we had to bow out of a buffet when I found out it was $18 apiece and go somewhere else. She says, "Are you on a budget or something?" And yes I definitely am. But the tone of disgust in her voice was unmistakeable. Its weird how men, especially white men are expected to simply be loaded and free with their money, but at the same time we want to make sure everyone in society gets boosted over them, and celebrate whenever that happens. Sucks for some of us!

  • @johnnylifts452

    @johnnylifts452

    Күн бұрын

    Hope she's your ex because of her behavior at the restaurant and not that you were going to see someone who was already your ex to begin with.

  • @tenntech40
    @tenntech40Ай бұрын

    Young men feel left out, unwanted, and unheard, and most importantly, un-needed. We need to be careful, because if we push this too far, "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." And if there is a group that is physically capable of burning the village down it's angry young men.

  • @deus_ex_machina_

    @deus_ex_machina_

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly. Leaders who ignore boys’ and mens’ issues because they are insulated from it's worst abuses do so at their own peril.

  • @ShuckleIX

    @ShuckleIX

    Ай бұрын

    Fair complaint, nobody should be marginalized, *BUT* also you're justifying the problem you're mentioning: If they are capable of burning a village down, uh, obviously they're not gonna be wanted, it's objectively unwantable. People don't understand that hidden dangers are bad. If your nature is capable of atrocities, you must fix those instead of forgetting about it with hobbies or being treated well by society. Your nature should never be capable of stuff like that, it's not something to hide under a rug. Life is unstable, unpredictable, that dangerous nature you put under the rug could at any moment jump out if, for example, you lose your job or you drink too much, etc.

  • @tenntech40

    @tenntech40

    Ай бұрын

    @@ShuckleIX but that nature sure is convenient when there is a war to be fought or a family to protect.

  • @rationallyright4626

    @rationallyright4626

    Ай бұрын

    🇵🇸🇷🇺🇷🇸🇨🇳🇧🇾🇰🇵🇮🇷 Correct.

  • @rationallyright4626

    @rationallyright4626

    Ай бұрын

    I have no wife, no children, and many of my family members that are older than me have already died, the younger ones are indoctrinated with the woke ideology. I have nothing but my own freedom to fight for.

  • @INVAZOR33
    @INVAZOR332 ай бұрын

    All I heard in this interview is men suck it up and no criticism for women since they are so perfect apparently.

  • @TheRealBlueValhalla

    @TheRealBlueValhalla

    2 ай бұрын

    Class wars working perfectly

  • @Bushodai

    @Bushodai

    2 ай бұрын

    It is DW man. The Germans not only drink the cool aid they produce it and sell it as an export.

  • @TheLovescream

    @TheLovescream

    2 ай бұрын

    Judging by your comment you didnt pay attention the 10 times they talked about zero-sum mentality.

  • @incurableromantic4006

    @incurableromantic4006

    2 ай бұрын

    "We live in a patriarchy. . . . . ." And straight away I knew that guy was not worth listening to.

  • @dustintacohands1107

    @dustintacohands1107

    2 ай бұрын

    @@incurableromantic4006oh jeez yeah thanks for warning I’m not watching either

  • @KrzysztofBob
    @KrzysztofBobАй бұрын

    It's not men vs women. It's pure economics. Due constantly rising cost of living, men can no longer support their whole families and women are forced to enter the job market. Instead of pointing out the issue, it's being rebranded as something positive. And how many women choose to pick skilled blue collar career (like plumber, electrician etc)? Women simply don't want to do it, hence they pick higher education path. This ultimately leads to less and less time available for their partners / families. You would think that ANY available family time would be very precious and appreciated, but in reality it's being wasted on watching TV or our phones for this quick dopamine rush, where we're constantly bombarded with "promise of better life" ... and we all fall for it. All of this results in rapid, demographic decline. We're literally working ourselves to extinction. Look no further than Japan or South Korea. If, where you live, is not that bad, it soon will be.

  • @sejozwak

    @sejozwak

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly, this

  • @jeanreiser1300
    @jeanreiser130011 күн бұрын

    In my n0eighborhood you can find a park bench on which "Take place against violence... against women and girls" Why the second part? Why not just the first part? That´s a perfect example, what the problem is with the modern feminism. It divides and makes men to citizen of second class whos issues are not as important as the women´s problems...

  • @mbcell7624
    @mbcell76242 ай бұрын

    For all of us, everything always comes down to economic security.

  • @kimpeater1

    @kimpeater1

    2 ай бұрын

    Economic security is just a fancy way of saying survival. No money = no housing no transport no food no family no life

  • @shannonbarber6161

    @shannonbarber6161

    2 ай бұрын

    No. That is an extremely feminine perspective shared by 80% of women and 20% of men which is the entire point. The masculine perspective is liberty and freedom above all else which is a view shared by 80% of men and 20% of women. Such are the choking tendrils of the feminine socialist movement we are no longer free to explain why on yt without censorship removing it.

  • @reuvenpolonskiy2544

    @reuvenpolonskiy2544

    2 ай бұрын

    No. men are not animlas, they are not only driven by the amount of food in their bucket

  • @kimpeater1

    @kimpeater1

    2 ай бұрын

    @@reuvenpolonskiy2544 have that bucket be empty for 3 days if you want to see mans animal side

  • @reuvenpolonskiy2544

    @reuvenpolonskiy2544

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kimpeater1 True, the man have a beast inside him. But he has not only the beast inside him, and therfore a full bucket will not sufice.

  • @salieri8903
    @salieri8903Ай бұрын

    Because when you are 20 years old broke student hearing about some mystical privileges and insults because of patriarchy is a bit frustrating. You endlessly tell young men that they are the problem and then you are surprised that those men go opposite direction to you?

  • @anthill1510

    @anthill1510

    23 күн бұрын

    I think what they are talking about is that you have the ability to be at college and be a broke student in contrast to having to start working minimum wage at 16 and having to partly support your siblings with that, too. That`s the mystical privilege people are talking about. It maybe doesn`t feel like it when you have to eat noodles with cheese for a week at the end of the month, but it actually is privilege.

  • @ithinkiknowme6450

    @ithinkiknowme6450

    18 күн бұрын

    I feel like everyone claims that the opposite gender has privilege when in reality I’m seeing that everyone of suffering..oh it’s getting bad..

  • @salieri8903

    @salieri8903

    11 күн бұрын

    @@anthill1510 my college is free and I work wage job to have food, so it's pretty much the same x)

  • @tay_paradox

    @tay_paradox

    11 күн бұрын

    @@anthill1510 i mean the majority of college students are women though? so through your own logic they would have more of said privilege? Like boys can't also deal with absent parents and taking care of their younger siblings.