Whole Body Vibration for Osteoporosis | CONTROVERSIAL CONCLUSION

Douglas Lucas Whole Body Vibration Controversial Conclusion
This is episode 3 of 3! First we interview Dr. Rubin from Marodyne, then Dr. Conviser from PowerPlate in episode 2 and finally my summary of the research in episode 3.
In this video, Dr. Doug Lucas delves into the nuanced perspectives, scientific studies, and his controversial conclusion on Whole Body Vibration. Watch this video to learn more on improving your bone health and lifespan.
Watch and Enjoy! Dr. Doug Lucas Key Moments in this Episode
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00:00 Intro and summary
1:05 Comprehensive program
2:50 Clinton Rubin Review
5:18 First Study
5:35 Second Study
7:40 Third Study
9:40 Fourth Study
14:05 Masterclass Registration Link
14:20 Power Plate Devices
15:40 Fifth Study
17:05 Sixth Study
18:06 Risks
23:25 Closing Summary
24:25 Device Recommendation
25:48 Bone Foundations Course
Study 1 Link: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30814...
Study 2 Link: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15040...
Study 3 Link: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22084...
Study 4 Link: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36282...
Study 5 Link: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15040...
Study 6 Link: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27907...
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  • @vanessascott2009
    @vanessascott20093 ай бұрын

    Excellent review and very helpful. I have a life pro plate because it was more affordable for me. I found that the unit also helps with balance. I don’t just rely on this unit, X3 bands, peloton, yoga, and diet. I follow a carnivore diet. I am a small frame woman. 103 pounds , 5 feet tall, BMI 20, fat 11 pounds muscle mass around 85. Being small frame, maintaining bone density is an important factor in my fitness plan. I am close to 70 in age.

  • @skincraftorganicsllc8537

    @skincraftorganicsllc8537

    3 ай бұрын

    Agreed!! I just recently got the Lifepro Rumblex Plus! I'd gone to Physical Therapy back in the spring for a knee issue & they had me using what I believe was a Rumblex for stability & strength training! I'm tiny like you and do all the things as well - though I'm not Carnivore, I do eat at least 1 gram of protein (animal source) per pound of body weight. :) Don't you find the Lifepro relaxing yet energizing? I love it!!

  • @vanessascott2009

    @vanessascott2009

    3 ай бұрын

    @@skincraftorganicsllc8537 yes and they have excellent support services!

  • @donnamcdonnell5846

    @donnamcdonnell5846

    3 ай бұрын

    Same!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @vanessascott2009

    @vanessascott2009

    3 ай бұрын

    @@skincraftorganicsllc8537 Yes, it is very relaxing and easy to put in my routine. Which is an important factor.

  • @ancientpathway7160
    @ancientpathway71603 ай бұрын

    I really appreciate you taking the time to sort through all the chaff to get to the facts, as much as possible at this point. Although many of us research ourselves, we don't have access, as you stated, to all of the studies. Thank you so much! I feel much better about what I'm doing with my own vibration plate. Blessings to you!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this, glad it was helpful!

  • @jacquesmertens3369

    @jacquesmertens3369

    3 ай бұрын

    ALL studies mentioned in this video are accessible without subscription. I checked all of them. Does that mean access to raw data? No. But do you need such access? Again: no. The publications that you can access are already very detailed. Just look up the studies using the PMID reference.

  • @ls-l1518

    @ls-l1518

    3 ай бұрын

    ​ Raw data is actually important. There is so much cheating in science, and many scientists don't even understand their data and draw the wrong conclusions. Often exaggerating the results. There are ways to get behind pay walls.

  • @starrynight8007

    @starrynight8007

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Dr_DougLucasomg, So thankful to you, Dr. Lucas. 👍👍🙏🏻

  • @AuditioningByHeart
    @AuditioningByHeart3 ай бұрын

    Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you!! I’ve been reading several of these studies and how they would contradict each other. I was going a little crazy. I came to the conclusions that you did, but I was still not sure I was right. I really appreciate everything you did and everything you read, and that you shared it with us. I bought the power plate, as my best guess as to what worked. I have enjoyed using it and felt a lot of benefits with my lymphedema, pain and restoration after workouts. Thanks to you I feel a lot better about my purchase.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    I am glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!

  • @marlysbenitah
    @marlysbenitah3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for a great review. Wish I would have heard it before I bought my maradyne a couple of years ago. I bought my power plate in 2003 and I've never had any detrimental health problems because of it. Repairs in that amount of time have been minimal and the customer service wonderful. I've had on and off mechanical problems with the maradyne since I purchased it. Customer service has been good. They said I could send it back for a repair but since the problem is not consistent I haven't done that. For the record I'm a quite healthy 75 year old with no significant health problems however I do have osteoporosis. I eat a healthy diet and work out regularly as well as using the power plate and maradyne consistently.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @carmenross1077

    @carmenross1077

    2 ай бұрын

    I wonder how much is it now,since you got yours years ago

  • @marlysbenitah

    @marlysbenitah

    2 ай бұрын

    The don't make my model anymore. The cheapest Power Plate model runs approximately $3,000 (with no support post). I think that is about what I paid for mine in 2003.@@carmenross1077

  • @marlysbenitah

    @marlysbenitah

    2 ай бұрын

    @@carmenross1077 they don't make my model anymore but the starting prices are similar to what I paid.

  • @JW-ug5vq
    @JW-ug5vq3 ай бұрын

    Excellent! Thank you for your perspective. I have been wondering about whole body vibration for couple of years and wanted an unbiased, independent perspective from a knowledgeable source. Thank you so much for unpacking this complicated topic and reviewing the scientific literature. I truly appreciated this video!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful, thank you for watching!

  • @SF-po3ql
    @SF-po3qlАй бұрын

    Thanks Dr. Doug for an excellent series and superb analysis. It definitely prompted me to subscribe to your podcast. A year ago, I called LifePro, gave them Marodyne’s specs. The HZ setting was straightforward and they recommended the second setting, which is the up and down vibration. Been using it since.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this! I greatly appreciate your support

  • @janiceolch9301
    @janiceolch93013 ай бұрын

    Thank you for another very helpful and informative video! I'll add a note that might be helpful to others: I use my power plate personal with the included straps, pulling up on the straps, creating a bicep curl, while on the plate, and I find this loads my wrists and upper body more than just standing on the plate alone. It takes some getting used to but now that I understand the benefits, I almost look forward to using it every day. :)

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @Thekattybird
    @Thekattybird3 ай бұрын

    Wonderful analysis Dr Lucas! My practice has seen a trend of perimenopausal women with osteopenia & fractures. I use the Power Plate at my gym. I am a dancer, so I actually dance on it) hopefully that is ok) along with sitting on it to do abdominal exercises, and I don’t think you clarified if sitting on it is o.k, but the Power Plate site has exercises for a core workout. What I see at my gym are people using a very high vibration. When the trainer first showed me how to use it he said “ The higher the better “. So I would imagine some of the ill effects ( headaches, vertigo) are from people improperly using the settings. I have been on Power Plate for 7 months and have lost 2% of my body fat without changing my diet ( but I do lift, dance, walk, Zumba, yoga, and try not to ever over eat, but keeping off the fat & building muscle is a constant challenge for most women over 50. I will keep getting my money’s worth out of my gym & stay on the Power Plate!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing all of this!

  • @lynnrobin9988
    @lynnrobin99883 ай бұрын

    Thank you for mentioning retinal detachment risk

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @loripattontartol7627

    @loripattontartol7627

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @RitaPanahi-BeEmpowered
    @RitaPanahi-BeEmpowered22 күн бұрын

    Very interesting. Thank you for such thorough information!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    21 күн бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @raunetty
    @raunetty3 ай бұрын

    an in-depth research leading to very valuable conclusions... gratitude!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @Paul-cy9ej
    @Paul-cy9ej3 ай бұрын

    Well done Dr. Doug! It took me ages to dig through the 2023 meta, and I also found problems with it I couldn’t find answers to. That was the end of my looking at vibration plates as an option

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing. I am glad this video was helpful!

  • @Sunnysue31
    @Sunnysue313 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for this.... I have been so confused for so long 😅... Now I know what information I need to ask of Bluefin (My vibration plate) ... Once again... Many thanks, very much appreciated.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @scwheeler24
    @scwheeler243 ай бұрын

    Problem with asking, your doctor is, and I know you have to say that, is most likely 90% or higher will tell you not to do it. And the biggest reason will be they just don’t know much about it if anything at all. I can pretty much guarantee of the different doctors I see they will all say they would not advise it.

  • @austintone

    @austintone

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree. Doctors know nothing about these plates.

  • @d.r.martin6301

    @d.r.martin6301

    3 ай бұрын

    Asking your average doctor about this is going to be pretty useless.

  • @scwheeler24

    @scwheeler24

    3 ай бұрын

    @@d.r.martin6301 agreed

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Checkout our masterclass or health span nation if you have not. We are able answer more specific questions through those platforms. Links for both of those are in the video description :)

  • @adelinematusiak693
    @adelinematusiak6933 ай бұрын

    Thank you for all the information. For me I think I will pass. I'm 76 years standing on a vibration device is a No....but I wish everyone much success in using the device.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @carolinewinnett801
    @carolinewinnett8013 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this excellent and detailed analysis of vibration. Super helpful!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ellenmumford3843
    @ellenmumford38432 ай бұрын

    Thank you. I have wondered about those devices. Now I know more.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes! Glad you enjoyed this video

  • @normavalenzuela8113
    @normavalenzuela81133 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the valuable information 😊

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @marjoriestratton3829
    @marjoriestratton38293 ай бұрын

    Excellent review. I am 76 and was just diagnosed with osteoporosis last year. I have been in the osteopenia range basically since onset of menopause. I first heard about vibration therapy a couple of years ago. It sounded like it was basically the cure-all for osteoporosis. Being skeptical, and not having the money to buy a vibration plate, I was in hopes of finding a gym with one to try it out. Not successful on that. Your article has helped a lot to clarify the information. Thank you.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this, I am glad this video was helpful!

  • @cathybrown4102

    @cathybrown4102

    3 ай бұрын

    If you have a Planet Fitness near you they have a stand up light therapy device with a vibrating plate.

  • @user-xl1eg3ig3s
    @user-xl1eg3ig3s3 ай бұрын

    You say ask your doctor. I did and they said no. Most traditional doctors are not willing to think outside the box so don’t bother asking them about new approaches.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    I completely understand, I am sorry to hear that. Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, this could be helpful for you. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @nancyjones2192
    @nancyjones21923 ай бұрын

    Thank you and very interesting. I have been using Hypervibe vibration, yes expensive, however it has the 30 Hz and .3 g parameters I wanted. By the time I am due for my next DEXA I will be over the 7000 minutes (10 minutes per day) as well as doing resistance training, nutrition, etc. Hopeful there will be some improvement.

  • @jacquesmertens3369

    @jacquesmertens3369

    3 ай бұрын

    You mean 7000 minutes I suppose. Is that a threshold or a maximum that was mentioned in the video? Have I missed it?

  • @nancyjones2192

    @nancyjones2192

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, 7000 minutes total. But, only 10 minutes per day that showed an improvement in lumbar spine of post menopausal women. 30 Hz low magnitude of .3g I am praying and hoping for an improvement. @@jacquesmertens3369

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    That's great, hank you for sharing this!

  • @belindafernandes5712
    @belindafernandes57123 ай бұрын

    Thank you for all your great info I have been strength training since I turned 60 I’m 75 .. walk two miles/day ( got my personal training certification at 60 so I would know what to do) and S train 2/ week I got the the Vibrate health gentle machine 2 mo ago it’s 110V/30-50 Hz use 10 min a day continuous ( no off on) I able able to lift more as example pull-down machine I went from 50 to 60lb so if nothing else it improves muscle strength and thereby probably improves balance! If you don’t fall you don’t break things usually!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @rolandjacques649
    @rolandjacques6493 ай бұрын

    Many sub $400 vibration plates have lower amplitude (G force) settings. My lifepro has pulse and lateral (side to side) which are both lower impact. Pulse appears to be 1mm and up to 40 hz. Side to side appears to be 20 hz max with about 8mm movement but its side to side which obviously lower impact. Otherwise Fantastic review!!! Nice to see a more unbais review for a change.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @aschane1
    @aschane12 ай бұрын

    Thank you Dr. Doug for your informative video. I am considering a vibration plate if it is safe for me at age 74, osteopenia, severe arthritic and fusion at my lower back. Your discussion gives me much to think about.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this, I am glad to hear it was helpful!

  • @zsigzsag
    @zsigzsag3 ай бұрын

    Lot of construction going on around my house. Some use these "ground pounders" when they are pounding, I feel pressure in my sternum and spine, I leave now until they are through. I wondered if this is actually a danger. The whole house vibrates. Hopefully they are finished. My chiropractor had me on one of these plates, part of the regimen he had for me but I had to keep my knees bent slightly. Is this necessary? Was considering buying one for home. Great video, thanks!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Everyone is different. I cannot provide specific recommendations through this platform without knowing more information. Checkout our masterclass or health span nation. The links for both of them are in the video description!

  • @trudyd.4169

    @trudyd.4169

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, it is necessary to bend your knees slightly.

  • @janiceolch9301
    @janiceolch93012 ай бұрын

    I just finished watching episodes 1, 2 and 3 of this series, as you suggested. I notice that Drs. Rubin and Conviser discuss continuous use of the plate in 10 minutes or longer sessions, and neither of them mention shorter alternating intervals of vibration and rest. The couple of studies that I've read on WBV and BMD involve study participants standing continuously on the plate for 10-15 minutes, with or without exercise, and intervals of rest and vibration are also not mentioned. So when you stated in episode 3 that "most people in this space" use the plate in intervals of, typically, one minute of training, one minute of rest, in order to "give themselves a break," I wondered if this is a preference or if this suggestion / proposal is evidence based? Are there studies not mentioned here that indicate that use of WBV in intervals of active use and rest result in increased BMD? Thank you for clarifying. And thank you for creating such a valuable resource.

  • @marlysbenitah

    @marlysbenitah

    2 ай бұрын

    I've also hear that the best bone rebuilding on the Power Plate came from 1 minute on and 1 minute off. I know I heard this from Dr Ari Whitten who is a chiropractor.

  • @janiceolch9301

    @janiceolch9301

    2 ай бұрын

    @@marlysbenitahI also saw Dr Whitten's video about this, but he does not cite his sources either. Or the sources that he cites do not support his assertion that 1 minute on 1 minute off intervals are most effective. So I don't know what to think about the use of intervals at this point.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @skincraftorganicsllc8537
    @skincraftorganicsllc85373 ай бұрын

    EXCELLENT - thank you!! I've been following Marodyne for many years and have always found the fact that they ran their own study - and their fearmongering about competitors' machines was extremely problematic. I'm a tiny human (4'10", under 80 lbs) and have pretty severe osteoporosis though have never ever fractured (Dexa from 2022 was -4.5 hip, -3.3 spine - I consider those numbers to be pretty good because they didn't go down too much from 2017. I also have pretty severe scoliosis - double major (approx. 48-degree curves both thoracic & lumbar). I expect my DEXA numbers to be even better when I get a new one this year because, over the last 2 years, I've been exercising MUCH more (added lots of resistance training), and eating more protein (at least 1 gram per 1 lb of body weight - mostly through animal sources). Back to vibration... after my own research over the years, and having recently gone to Physical Therapy for a knee issue (coming from my weak hips), where they had me doing some work on a vibration plate for balance/stability & strength training (mostly stepping up & down on it), I decided to go and buy a Lifepro Rumblex Plus which was just like the one I used in PT. It was less expensive than the Power Plate, but has the capability of at least 30 hertz in pulsation mode plus and it also has the oscillation mode which is wonderful for balance. I LOVE IT!! I have been using it daily (sometimes 2x) to exercise on (squats, step up & down on it, arm weights, etc). I find it loosens me up & energizes me so that after I've done 10 minutes on it, I get on my treadmill & walk at a faster, peppier pace than if I hadn't used the vibration plate. I've also used the plate at the end of the day - not doing much on it and afterward, it makes me feel as though I've had a massage - very relaxed. So, will it help with bone density? I'm confident it will help - it seems to surely activate muscles (why else would I feel so loosened up on it - even when doing nothing other than standing on it)? It's also a great way to do some stability/balance training - and it feels like a massage!! :)

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    This is great information, thank you so much for sharing this!

  • @skincraftorganicsllc8537

    @skincraftorganicsllc8537

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Dr_DougLucas you're most welcome - thank you for your wonderful videos... I love how you go into depth on so many topics relating to osteoporosis - just on vibration plates- numerous videos - and I love how you're objective - even though you've had these people on your channel!! :)

  • @cherlgolja5402

    @cherlgolja5402

    3 ай бұрын

    Write a book ~ get to the point ~ not sold ~

  • @skincraftorganicsllc8537

    @skincraftorganicsllc8537

    3 ай бұрын

    @@cherlgolja5402 I wasn't trying to sell anyone - I just wanted to share my experience. ;)

  • @Vixs18

    @Vixs18

    2 ай бұрын

    If you have severe osteoporosis and scoliosis as I do… don’t do Osteostrong. I wound up with 3 herniated discs and worse pain after 3 months. Wish I never went! May be different if you have a straight spine. I have a LifePro and will start now that I have started Fascia release and Massage for my atrophied leg muscles (the pain has gone on for years) Also will add walking as I feel better.

  • @lindawhite3189
    @lindawhite31893 ай бұрын

    I bought one of the less expensive devices that teeter totter. I turned it up too high and tore the labrum in my hip and had to have hip replacement surgery.

  • @esthermitchell7131

    @esthermitchell7131

    3 ай бұрын

    Omg I'm so sorry this happened to you.

  • @ritaschultz6859

    @ritaschultz6859

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh gosh ! Did you follow all Safty procedures ? Read study the manual , Listen to all the trainers advice ., start slow .? I mean starting at the lowest speed and time ? Warm up and stretch before you start ,or take a walk to warm up your muscles ? Did you have a physical Problem that may have caused the dislocation. ? Wow really need more details to evaluate your Post . take care sorry you suffered like this !

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    I am so sorry to hear this. Thank you so much for sharing this

  • @tedmed7349

    @tedmed7349

    2 ай бұрын

    It's annoying but before doing anything to your body we are told to check with your doctor first. He would check your bone density. Perhaps it was the straw to break the camel's back. I talked with two ladies one whose femur broke when she picked a bag of groceries up from the car trunk. The other just stood up from a chair and stood when her femur broke. Both on Fosamax for years and was told all was ok. But it wasn't.

  • @ritaschultz6859

    @ritaschultz6859

    2 ай бұрын

    @@tedmed7349 I got a bone scan, and it revealed that I had osteopenia, and the scan gave me ten years before I had a fracture without any intervention, and the Doctor wanted to put me on medication, without any knowledge as to why I'm losing bone mass and slow growth of new bone. I declined., and I have been bullied, by the doctors to take medication, Then I found Dr Doug, and "I have stated my plan of attack, and recovery. Bless you Dr Doug, you're helping so many people, giving us hope and confidence, and control over our lives, by empowering us with Knowlege about this disease state. and information about treatment options. Based on scientific studies, and antidotal case studies. Thank you so very very much Doctor Doug .

  • @lewynld
    @lewynld3 ай бұрын

    With absolutely no evidence, I make the assertion that jumping is the best way to increase bone density. I started with tiny little baby jumps, and believe me I have severe osteoporosis, and eventually achieved 2 hertz for a few minutes at a time. This has the added benefit of radically increasing my vo2 max and moving a few liters of blood around. I do have a vibration plate (cheep) and it is wonderful for my digestion and feels nice. Otherwise I am unsure of the benefits. My retinas are still attached and my dementia is no worse than usual. Next I plan to start walking in a weighted vest, which I also have no evidence for. I will also book a flight to a heavy gravity planet at the first opportunity as it seems a logical progression. I really think progressive overload is key, and this sort of thing should begin with a minimum dose, just like with drugs, so the body can adapt. It takes longer but it is worth it.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @cindylutz7442

    @cindylutz7442

    3 ай бұрын

    I like your style. 😂

  • @ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow

    @ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow

    3 ай бұрын

    I can't tell if you're being facetious or not. You sounded 100% serious until you talked about flying to other planets.

  • @nancyboyette3748

    @nancyboyette3748

    3 ай бұрын

    I appreciate your humor as it keeps us, “grounded.” Your comment about starting slow and then increasing gradually is sound wisdom on any venture we start out on especially for seniors to remind us, that we no longer have bodies that we can use, abuse and rebound quickly. The only thing I’ll add to that principle is that when starting out on any behavioral change, there must be enough of a demand that you feel some level of irritation. If it’s too easy, “it ain’t a thing and don’t count.” Once you’ve adapted to the demand is the time to up the ante.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Well said, thank you for sharing this! @@nancyboyette3748

  • @Kwize652
    @Kwize652Ай бұрын

    I just purchased a maxxus v trainer power plate machine. Used it on the lowest setting last night for 5 minutes and had pain in my ankles and underfoot and knees and hip. It basically brought back pain in my ankle and foot that was healing from.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    Hi! I am so sorry to hear that. It is always best to consult with your doctor first if you have any previous injuries.

  • @twalker1409
    @twalker14093 ай бұрын

    Dr. Doug, a couple people in the comments mentioned the VT007 vibration plate by VT Vibration Therapeutic. It does have the up-and-down movement rather than see-saw, it can be set for 30-35 hz, and it is a lot cheaper than the Marodyne or PowerPlate. BUT..."Vibration amplitude: Low (0.7 - 1.2mm) or High (1.5 - 3.0mm)." So regardless of the amplitude setting you choose, it will be variable throughout the session. Can you comment on whether you think this would affect the safety or effectiveness of the device? Is the highest amplitude of 3mm too high?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Checkout our healthspan nation network. We are able to discuss specific recommendations like this through this platform. You can find details here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @warthog733

    @warthog733

    2 ай бұрын

    The same machine was sold by LifePro as their "Vivid" model. I have one...LifePro no longer sells the "Vivid". I bought two...one for myself, and one for my brother who has bad knees from sports.

  • @lucypecar4580
    @lucypecar45802 ай бұрын

    I agree with the person that made the comment about asking your doctor. Fir the most tgey haven't a clue unless they are someone who specializes in the bone field and is familiar with up to date devices and studies both new and old. Basically my family doctor and nurse practitioner will recommend that I take pharma meds and that will solve your problems for the most part. I would like to try this plate but would want to know for sure if it will stop any further bone loss and possibly strengthen the bones and muscles around it. I have pain everywhere and pretty much on a daily basis. I have moderate to high osteoporosis especially on ny left hip going down the thigh and lower leg is not good either. I would welcome any recommendations abd suggestions as to what i could try. I live in Canada and wonder if these discounts are applicable to Canadians.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi! I completely understand, we have multiple tools that could assist you with your decision process on this. If you have not attended one of our Masterclass sessions before, I highly recommend checking it out. You can find more information here --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/build-bone

  • @salleone6387
    @salleone63873 ай бұрын

    Thank you Dr. Lucas for this honest detailed review. The 2016 study you highlight that showed a 1% increase after, I think 6 months of WBV only, while even resistance training lost 1/2%, seems to validate the efficacy? If no one gets hurt and no one gets worse and even improves, albeit modestly, by using just the WBV machine, which was the group that improved I believe, then other than the cost being prohibitive for a lot of people, I'm missing why you wouldn't want to add it in? Regarding using commercial standards for home devices, that old saying the dose makes the poison comes to mind. What is safe for 10 minutes could be very deleterious for 8 hours. About your advice about asking your doctor, hmmm, I know you have to say that for legal and ethical reasons, but in reality, as mentioned before in a different Q&A, my doctors want clinical trials showing reduced fracture/fall risk, if they have even heard of the therapy, my doc did not. And as you have stated before those studies are too long and expensive to do for a non pharma modality.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    We discuss this more in our health span nation! Check it out if you have not yet.You can find further details here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @starrynight8007

    @starrynight8007

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree, having to ask these conventional doctors as a joke 😏. As you said, half the time they’ve never heard of things. What are they going to go to read the studies … Or just say, “I’m not in favor of it@, to preserve their ego…

  • @aussiegirl-jx7nj
    @aussiegirl-jx7nj2 ай бұрын

    I use a P.E.M.F. mat for different reasons, but it is also supposed to increase bone density by modulating calcium deposits in bone and regulating mineral metabolism. It may be good for those for whom vibration therapy is not an option.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @mason4490
    @mason4490Ай бұрын

    I'v e been using a Lifepro Rumblex - the top of the line plate from Lifepro- for a couple of years, 10 minutes per day. 2 months ago I awoke to extreme symptoms of vertigo. While the severity has fluctuated since then, it never goes away entirely. I assumed the problem was attributable to neck position/neck muscle tension. But testing showed damage to my left vestibular system. I didn't think of it until later, but now I'm wondering if the vibration plate might have contributed in a major way to the problem. I've not had any virus that could have set off an immune attack, and nothing else comes to mind. My use of the machine is still ongoing, albeit at low intensity. I'm told that there is no cure for the condition. I'm not seeing much evidence in the form of complaints from others who experienced similar symptoms, but there are casual mentions of it in passing. We need more studies with concise parameters. I may be an anomoly, but if these plates touting balance improvement can cause such paradoxical results even if rare- a warning to that effect is needed.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    I am very sorry to hear that. Thank you for sharing this!

  • @catperri3705

    @catperri3705

    4 күн бұрын

    Vitamin D3 K2 cured my Vertigo.

  • @pointshealthcoaching8474
    @pointshealthcoaching84743 ай бұрын

    My favorite expression is "LESS IS MORE " -therfore- I'd stick with L IV

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Ahhh right!

  • @sciacchitano504
    @sciacchitano5042 ай бұрын

    Where is the discount link for the Merodyne? Please post. The 2009 study on low-intensity vibration used HALF the G's used by the Marodyne device-- even so it DID build bone in THOSE WHO COMPLIED with the (rather easy) protocol. The studies on high- intensity vibration were all over the map (e.g., using supervised exercise, etcetera).

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this! Also the coupon code is: DL200

  • @sciacchitano504

    @sciacchitano504

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Dr_DougLucas Thank you!

  • @d.r.martin6301
    @d.r.martin63013 ай бұрын

    I'm looking at the VT Vibration VT007, which sells for about $400. The two units specified in this video are just too expensive. The VT unit apparently doesn't see-saw, and offers frequency and amplitude that are apparently in the ballpark. If anyone has used the VT007, I would love to hear comments.

  • @ib629

    @ib629

    3 ай бұрын

    I too am looking at the VT007, reviews are very positive. The owner really goes into detail on the website of the mechanics and how it works. Very grateful for Dr. Doug Lucas' time and energy he puts into helping us. Thank you.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @twalker1409

    @twalker1409

    3 ай бұрын

    I've looked at this device too. But... "Vibration amplitude: Low (0.7 - 1.2mm) or High (1.5 - 3.0mm)". So, the amplitude is variable throughout the session as you are using it, regardless of whether you choose the low or the high amplitude. Not sure if that is a good thing, a bad thing, or it doesn't matter. Both the Marodyne and the PowerPlate use one steady amplitude during any given session.

  • @joannelivengood7914
    @joannelivengood79143 ай бұрын

    As a PT and knowing contraindications for use of ultrasound and e-stim in the presence of cancer, I was concerned about the use of vibration plates by patents that have or have had cancer. Since the vibration plate stimulates cells, what is the safety of this device in that patient population? I contacted Marodyne regarding this question as was told that there are no contraindications of any kind, including for cancer patients, with their device. What are your thoughts? I know many patients developed osteoporosis due to chemotherapy and other drugs used to treat cancer.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    They are the specialist and know best, I also recommend advising with your personal doctor as well on it!

  • @TeaRoseLover
    @TeaRoseLoverАй бұрын

    Hello 👋 thank you for the information. Can I use the power plate if I had partial knee replacements? I have titanium in my knees.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    That depends! You'll want to reach out to your doctor for better answers.

  • @johnrathjen36
    @johnrathjen36Ай бұрын

    Doc you kind of mentioned very briefly about the WBV possibly helping with fracture healing - did I hear that right???

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @magpiegirl3783
    @magpiegirl37833 ай бұрын

    I think this was a good coverage. And thanks for doing the research because you know how to do this properly. My experience on the vibration plate at Osteostrong was acute vertigo and neck pain which took a couple of weeks with a Physiotherapist to resolve. I was interested in the results achieved by your second guest with his use of powerplate and exercise and he seems to apply the use of vibration in specific ways with a lot of good results. One of the problems regarding safety, and correct me if I am wrong here, is that the vibration machines are not regulated and if they are to be used as therapeutic devices, I would have expected them to be so. A bit like vitamins and supplements! Anyway, thank you again. More to think about.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this insight! I am glad you enjoyed this video.

  • @bills2128
    @bills2128Ай бұрын

    I have one of the inexpensive platforms. Teeter totter. After only one week with 3 uses, I had tremendous improvement. Climbed some ladders at work. Normaly, my legs would be burning every time. No burn and more strength. Using it daily now

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    Thats awesome! Thank you for sharing this!

  • @vtrep737
    @vtrep7373 ай бұрын

    What is your opinion on heel drops or bouncing on your heels to vibrate your bones for bone density? There are a couple of osteoporosis PT's on KZread who recommend doing 30-50 a day, spaced out 10 at a time ....

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    I will have to look further into this!

  • @anngordon7487

    @anngordon7487

    3 ай бұрын

    I’m interested in heel drops too

  • @nmandowa

    @nmandowa

    3 ай бұрын

    I've been doing some of those too, not really knowing how effective they might be. But I do notice a fatigue in the legs after about 30 at a time, so it seems like it might be doing something. If not the bones, at least for the muscles maybe?

  • @dulcihrt

    @dulcihrt

    2 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/gW1q2JVvpqenctY.htmlsi=982DZC9oA6LXraTi

  • @melmil9836
    @melmil98363 ай бұрын

    Wowsers, for me over here in Australia to purchase a power plate it will cost between $3,800-$$4,800 AUD. Not sure if this is a very good outlay for something that has been questioned. I’m wondering if there is a cheaper option over here as l am very interested in vibration for many different reasons in regards to my personal health issues.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    There are definitely lower cost options, these are the ones we chose to review as they have very high success rates connected to them.

  • @patriciawightman4561
    @patriciawightman45613 ай бұрын

    Spondylothesis and some cardiac issues are contraindicated for vibration. That's what the research says, don't know but best to stay on safe side for myself anyway..

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @debrajames2764
    @debrajames276423 күн бұрын

    I just found your channel. I just got the diagnosis of osteoporosis. I am considering beginning OsteoStrong. I have looked at all of the comments and your answers trying to find info about it. I realize nothing is going to be the “end all be all”. But would help with other lifestyle changes?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    16 күн бұрын

    Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @chiaramitchell9726
    @chiaramitchell97263 ай бұрын

    When you say with a 3mm displacement does this mean that the power plate machine should have a pad on top to offset some of the vibration? Do I need to ask for anything specific in regards to this next time I am doing a workout on the powerplate?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    No, it’s desired. We discuss things like this in our health span nation. You can find further details here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @barbarahyde8717
    @barbarahyde87173 ай бұрын

    Because I have degenerative joint disease and sarcopenia I experienced a knee injury using a Power Plate with a physiotherapist standing alongside me and guiding me. I am very reluctant to use a Power Plate again :-( I am sure it is more to do with the state of my muscles and is unlikely to affect other people the same way it did me.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @barbarahyde8717

    @barbarahyde8717

    3 ай бұрын

    I was reluctant to share this as I don't don't want to put people off. I don't think this is the norm. However, I would use with caution if you are like me with sarcopenia and degenerativee joint disease. @@Dr_DougLucas

  • @DoubleMtnMagic
    @DoubleMtnMagic3 ай бұрын

    Can you speak to the vibration plates they have at Osteostrong? Wondering what the specs are/who manufactures them and if you recommend using them as a warm up to loading.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Checkout the video on my channel called "The Best Exercise for Osteoporosis. An Interview About OsteoStrong with Dr John Jaquish."

  • @DoubleMtnMagic

    @DoubleMtnMagic

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Dr_DougLucas, watched that episode again and not hearing any info about their vibration plates. Am I missing something?

  • @Vixs18

    @Vixs18

    2 ай бұрын

    If you have severe osteoporosis it’s a big NO for Osteostrong. I wound up with 3 herniated discs. 😢. It may be ok for people with less osteoporosis. IDK

  • @marlysbenitah

    @marlysbenitah

    2 ай бұрын

    I went to an Osteostrong place in Scottsdale, AZ. I noticed they were using the Power Plate brand@@DoubleMtnMagic

  • @DoubleMtnMagic

    @DoubleMtnMagic

    2 ай бұрын

    @@marlysbenitah haven’t seen that brand. Not sure what it is.

  • @lynnwilliams5432
    @lynnwilliams54323 ай бұрын

    81 years do it in hopes of stem cell repair. I am safety seeking so I stand inside a Walker which I used after a fracture and anterior hip replacement surgery but do not anymore .

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @kimw5533
    @kimw55332 ай бұрын

    The power plate you ultimately recommended: is it the same model as what was used in studies? Are the models in the studies of higher quality?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Some, yes, some no. same frequency and displacement.

  • @paulagregg9658
    @paulagregg96583 ай бұрын

    Goodness! If they only included ONE study with a Marodyne (like) device--my gosh, in my mind that can't even qualify as a meta-analysis!! Where's the meta? One study is one study. That's crazy. I actually agree with only including high-quality studies. I'm wondering why there's only one high-quality study on the Marodyne. It seems Dr. Rubin has conducted a lot of research and yet I guess the authors of the meta-analysis concluded that they were not of high quality. And apparently, no one else has reproduced Dr. Rubin's results with a good-quality study either. Not a good sign. I got confused though by what you were saying (at approximately the 12-minute mark) that quantity should be looked at too and that there are lots of studies showing benefit in areas we are interested in, namely the hip. To me, that makes it sound like you mean that we should look also at the quantity of studies showing significant benefit from the Marodyne-like devices (since it was those devices for which they only looked at one study) but I don't think that's what you meant??? since you didn't mention the Marodyne-like device having a high quantity of studies showing good benefit in summarizing/concluding remarks and didn't seem to give weight towards these but rather more emphasized lots of studies showing Power Plates to have a good effect. Anyway, bottom line: one high-quality study by the author of Marodyne that hasn't been reproduced by independent researchers is not persuasive. And further, I don't see that these authors can call this a meta-analysis if they only looked at one study for one category. THANK YOU for doing the deep dive and reading the fine print. Also, thank you for making the excellent, elucidating point that looking at adverse effects from using 2G machinery in the work force does not really make for a fair comparison to using WBVs with that G force. And even more importantly that no actual injuries were reported in the studies on the Power Plate. This has been an EXCELLENT review! Thank you so so so much as I've really been struggling to figure out which to buy in the last several months and was really torn and confused. Thank you!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Agreed! Thank you for sharing this!

  • @maryb0687
    @maryb06873 ай бұрын

    I am so disappointed that Marodyne does not build bone and that the PowerPlate is a better choice. I saved up and bought a Marodyne last year😢. I did so much research for a couple of years on the Marodyne and thought it was worth the investment. The am in great health just bad bones. So bummed about your conclusion.

  • @alynnglo9172

    @alynnglo9172

    3 ай бұрын

    Don't sell yourself and your own research short ! Every body is different and what "felt" right to you was probably the best for your Unique needs

  • @greendragon9

    @greendragon9

    3 ай бұрын

    I have a Marodyne plate, I'm not too discouraged by this. I'm going to keep using it and see what happens on my next dexa.

  • @2stayfree11

    @2stayfree11

    3 ай бұрын

    I have had the Marodyne for nearly a year, using it faithfully 2x/day. My DEXA is due later this month so will see if any improvement. I discovered that if you place hands on hips, the vibration is carried into wrists….which is the only problem area for me.

  • @margariteolmos3457

    @margariteolmos3457

    3 ай бұрын

    I use my Marodyne every day and love it. We'll see.

  • @lucybecker8

    @lucybecker8

    3 ай бұрын

    Have youread Rebuild Your Bones by Mira Calton and her husband? They have interesting information.

  • @klschnepp
    @klschnepp2 ай бұрын

    Is it a bad to use the power plate vibrating peanut on the lumber spine for Osteoporosis ? The reason for this is I did get vertigo when I use the Power Plate itself, my mistake could also be because I use it for 20mins straight. Will try your recommended 10mins, on and off 60secs. Thank you so much for your video, greatly appreciate your research.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    I would recommend speaking with your doctor first or contacting the customer service team of the vibration plate company that you are using to double check on that. Of course, I am glad you enjoyed it!

  • @klschnepp

    @klschnepp

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your response. I will do that. 🙂@@Dr_DougLucas

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Of course! @@klschnepp

  • @lyndagabriel6539
    @lyndagabriel6539Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for this. As a career scientist (post-career), I very much appreciate the thoughtful weighing of different sides. I'm trying to learn more about the possible neurological safety before I commit to a device; your section on risk is helpful but is data available for long-term ARs? I always laugh at the layman's belief that science is black and white, or in fact a science... sorry, but it's all nuance and context and each individual's body of accumulated facts and knowledge.... with natural bias for that extra je ne sais quoi.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    Good question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @karenkrevalis555
    @karenkrevalis5553 ай бұрын

    Regarding using WBV daily, is there any benefit for BMD if I can only access a vibration plate once or twice a week?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    It sounds like it! You can always double check with Dr. Rubin or Dr. Conviser on this from the first two episodes :)

  • @msplateaugal
    @msplateaugal2 ай бұрын

    Any thoughts about use of a device such as Power Plate for those who have had hip replacement?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @pointshealthcoaching8474
    @pointshealthcoaching84743 ай бұрын

    How exactly did they measure the displacement when they were checking the power plate device

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Good question. We discuss things like this in our Health Span nation. You can find further details here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @b9eda9ad
    @b9eda9ad3 ай бұрын

    If one could walk into a shop and place a phone when standing at the same time on a running plate it would be possible to measure the frequency and acceleration but unortunetly most of cheap devices are only sold online or when in the shop not necessarly ready to use. I'm tempted to buy a sub $200 device and see. If G is too big I suppose would need to throw it away.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @ellyndooley893
    @ellyndooley8933 ай бұрын

    I appreciate your interpretation of so many studies, including your explanation about how lower priced plates function. I have a lifepro 4D machine and their literature is limited with regard to which settings offer optimal Hz, amplitude and G force so I had a a mathematician help me figure out which settings would get me close to the 2G measurement. I’m assuming these other products haven’t conducted any studies or you would report on them. It is frustrating that all the studies are conducted on such expensive devices. It doesn’t help mainstream users who don’t want to spend thousands, especially when the results seem to be controversial. I’m hoping my LifePro machine is going to be beneficial and would love to get some kind of info on their efficacy in reversing osteoporosis.

  • @b9eda9ad

    @b9eda9ad

    3 ай бұрын

    The measurement of G on a plate does not have to be exactly the same that is applied to the feet and further bones. Maybe we should do 2 tests. One phone held firmy against the plate and the other lower parts of legs. I presume measurement on the leg could be slightly lower compared to the bone but still would be nice to see those measurements. As for mathematical computation we would need to assume how the movement is made. So maybe simpler to measure with the phone. Also very disapointing we do not have studies on a device more similar to walking acceleration like 1.2G

  • @ellyndooley893

    @ellyndooley893

    3 ай бұрын

    @@b9eda9ad not sure what feature on my phone would measure G… can you explain?

  • @b9eda9ad

    @b9eda9ad

    3 ай бұрын

    I just used 'Accelerometer Counter' on android but I suppose you can find others. Gray out all measurements except Z and hold phone flat against surface of plate. You can clear the graph and start measure when needed.​@@ellyndooley893

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    These are the devices we have chosen to discuss due to quality and success rates. We are aware that there are other devices at lower cost and may make a future video on these :)

  • @melmil9836
    @melmil98363 ай бұрын

    I have been considering purchasing a HyperVibe vibration plate over here in Australia as it is more affordable for me than the other two that are mentioned. Can anyone please take a look for me and see if this one has useful specs to use? Thank you😊

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this, we discuss this further in our healthspan nation and on our masterclass. Check both of these out if you have not yet, links are in the video description!

  • @iconoclast5278
    @iconoclast52782 ай бұрын

    You're safer with one of the 'Revitive' range of products, which utilises Electrical Muscle Stimulation (EMS) technology,

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @sharonswanson4899
    @sharonswanson48992 ай бұрын

    I'd like to know if any of you who use a power plate consistantly have seen improvement in your osteoperosis.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Good Question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @loripattontartol7627
    @loripattontartol7627Ай бұрын

    I had two retina detached surgeries… a few years ago on my right eye the last one I had a 90% chance of losing my sight .. is there a danger with this?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this, unfortunately I cannot provide specific recommendations through this platform, I would need to know a little bit more about you as well. Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @janiceolch9301
    @janiceolch93013 ай бұрын

    Can you please clarify total recommended time on the plate? 1 minute on the plate, 1 minute rest, repeated 5 times for a total of 10 minutes? Or is the recommended 10 minute training time the total of 10 1 minute periods of effort with 10 1 minutes rests for a total of 20 minutes? Thank you and sorry if this is obvious to everyone but me.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi! No worries, we discuss this in the other videos. You can find episode 1 and 2 on my channel :)

  • @janiceolch9301

    @janiceolch9301

    2 ай бұрын

    @gLucasI have just finished listening to all 3 episodes, and I read a couple of studies on WBV and BMD. It seems like the studies involve having participants standing on a vibration plate continuously for 10 minutes without or without exercising on the plate. In episode 1, Dr Rubin suggested 10 minutes of continuous use followed by a break of a few hours followed optimally by another "5 to 10 minutes" on the vibration plate. He states that benefits are dose dependent, and that 1 or 2 minutes on the plate is not going to stimulate bone growth. In episode 2, Dr Conviser who uses Power Plate in his practice repeatedly referred to the library of workouts on the PP website which all involve 10 to 20 to 30 minutes of continuous use. Then is this episode 3, you state that most or many of the people "in this space" use the plate in intervals of 1 minute on the plate 1 minute off the plate to give themselves a break. This makes it sound more like a preference than anything evidence based. Is that accurate? Am I correct in my understanding that the studies (and other experts) indicate the benefit of at least 10 minutes daily of continuous plate use to support the improvement of bone density? Sorry for such a long post, but I found the interjection of the 1 minute intervals of training and rest to be confusing and contradictory and I would greatly appreciate some clarification.

  • @patnewson6908
    @patnewson69083 ай бұрын

    Any comparison to a rebounder?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    We discuss the rebounder effects in this video " Bounce Your Way to Bone Health? Mini-Trampolines vs Agility Training for Osteoporosis.What's better?"

  • @kathygoudeket4090
    @kathygoudeket40903 ай бұрын

    I have a device that I purchased for around $1500 back at least 12 years ago. It’s called Vibra therapy. Is this considered a safe device?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    I will do some research on this one!

  • @47retta
    @47retta3 ай бұрын

    I have a cheaper machine than these two. But i have been doing it for 20 to 30 minutes a day. No ill effects, just improved balance, better bladder control, muscle toning. I am a 76 yo female. Should i cut back to 10 minutes?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately I cannot provide specific recommendations through this platform. Checkout our Masterclass or health span nation! Both Links are in the description :)

  • @deepost2604

    @deepost2604

    22 күн бұрын

    I also have a less expensive plate. I listened to Dr. Rubin’s lectures and he recommended more than one ten minute session, but allowing 3 hours between sessions. I personally use mine 3 times per day. The rest periods are intended to allow the muscles to recover from the stimulation at 30 HZ. I am having excellent results. I was told I had to have knee replacement surgery a year ago and I am now moving quite normally.

  • @47retta

    @47retta

    22 күн бұрын

    @@deepost2604 how do you know how many hz it has?

  • @almakelly2133
    @almakelly21332 ай бұрын

    My chiropractor recommends plates. She has a program called be strong.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @kmtx78
    @kmtx7821 күн бұрын

    I am looking for a very low vibration plate but not sure what fits that. I am at a -5.7

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    16 күн бұрын

    Great question! Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @bornagainchristian2501
    @bornagainchristian25012 ай бұрын

    I am an osteoporosis patient for 5 years now. Is vibration good for me who has Spondylisthesis L4 L5 L5 S and L3 L4?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    I always recommend checking with your doctor first if you have previous conditions!

  • @bowler8
    @bowler82 ай бұрын

    who do we need to see about diet and how do I get on a program...Im in the dark about this with nowhere to turn?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Checkout the video on my channel called "The BEST Diet for Osteoporosis in 2024 | WHAT TO EAT FOR OSTEOPOROSIS" Also, our program is 100% virtual. We would be more than happy to speak with you. You can schedule a discovery call here --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/membership

  • @riyaraj4902
    @riyaraj4902Ай бұрын

    Can i use whole body plate if l am 21 year old with osteopinia. And can it help me for bone density

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this, unfortunately I cannot provide specific recommendations through this platform, I would need to know a little bit more about you as well. Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @salleone6387
    @salleone63873 ай бұрын

    I understand this is not an endorsement or medical advice if you decide to share this information, but could you tell us the brand and model you and your wife use? I understand that for you WBV is not an isolated variable but used in concert with diet, exercise, stress reduction, etc., even so, has your & your wife's muscle mass and bone density increased since using the machines?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    We just started using the machine. PowerPlate Move. Our bone density is at a good starting point so wouldn’t expect it to improve much.

  • @billbucktube
    @billbucktube2 ай бұрын

    Like it.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed this video!

  • @carmenross1077
    @carmenross10772 ай бұрын

    Unable to register for that free masterclass on osteoporosis/osteopenia class

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi! Try this link --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/membership

  • @annforrer8445
    @annforrer84453 ай бұрын

    Your thoughts on the new FDA approved Osteoboost belt?

  • @brendalowe3975

    @brendalowe3975

    3 ай бұрын

    I've never heard of this. Thanks for the information!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    We will look into this!

  • @kpgc1234
    @kpgc12343 ай бұрын

    I have a Juvent 1000 which is to be used 20 minutes a day.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @user-re1hy6if7d
    @user-re1hy6if7d10 күн бұрын

    Are you aware that there are whole-body vibration devices for livestock, especially horses? My horse trainer has one for her horses, both performance and non-performance. I believe the one she has in the barn is called "Thera-plate." Horses stand on it with all four feet. There are local area vibration products for horses as well, pads that can be placed on their backs or hindquarters. They're increasingly possible with trainers for increasing muscle strength, especially in horses that cannot be worked hard because of certain injuries. My trainer gets on it herself--and I have no idea what its frequency and displacement are...I've never been on it while it's working.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    6 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing this!

  • @sandrahoffman2770
    @sandrahoffman27702 ай бұрын

    Masterclass

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi! Click here to register --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/build-bone

  • @Ketovore-Karen
    @Ketovore-KarenАй бұрын

    Life Pro waiver all the wayyyy……great product and great price…..this plus low carb good protein equals health !

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    29 күн бұрын

    Yes! Thank you for watching!

  • @agnescleary2312
    @agnescleary23123 ай бұрын

    So disappointed that you don't seriously discuss any brands other than Power Plate ($1500) and Marodyne ($3,000). If the lower priced models like Life Pro Rumblex really are inferior or not beneficial, why not just say so? Many people cannot afford $1500-$3,000 and an honest evaluation of the other alternatives would be so useful. I wonder if the reason all the professional types are recommending the higher priced models is because they are experienced in using them in clinical settings where the device will be much more heavily used and used by a people with a wide range of abilities and medical conditions and so must be more "heavy duty" and have more bells and whistles. But for a single home user, it would be useful to know if the less expensive models would be as beneficial.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    We completely understand and are aware that there is lower cost options, these are the ones we chose to review as they have very high success rates connected to them.

  • @dreamervanroom
    @dreamervanroom3 ай бұрын

    Just a comment for you doctor about another youtube channel that does meta-analyses. It is called Physionic, done by Nic Verhoeven.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @toniasalways
    @toniasalways2 ай бұрын

    There isn't enough information for men. I am a caretaker and I'm driving myself crazy trying to figure out what to do or not do.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    We completely understand it can be extremely overwhelming. Checkout our health span nation if you have not yet, you get exclusive access to me and a community of people pursuing health and longevity. These are things that we discuss in there and it allows us to go into detail rather than doing short chats through this platform. You can find more information here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @scoobtoober2975
    @scoobtoober2975Ай бұрын

    If you body has high chronic insulin you may not be laying down bone properly. Get checked. Ankle scan, dex maybe. Get you insulin tested, fasting or not. Try keto, slowly, try high D and k2 intake. Animal protein/collagen/fats

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @carmenross1077
    @carmenross10772 ай бұрын

    I heard about this machine ,but have idea how it works.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    2 ай бұрын

    Checkout video 1 and 2 of this series as well if you have not yet!

  • @juliebrady8583
    @juliebrady85833 ай бұрын

    Do doctors know more than you about these devices?

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Possibly! Depends on the doctor I guess

  • @krispedersen2335
    @krispedersen2335Ай бұрын

    No one can afford Rubin's $4500 machine! Ridiculous!

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    We were on a mission to find the highest quality plate but there are definitely other options!

  • @jacquesmertens3369
    @jacquesmertens33693 ай бұрын

    On the positive side: you did go through the scientific studies in order to find real data. Unfortunately, and despite what you promised 2 weeks ago, you're not giving us any conclusive data. We're told "ask your doctor", and you also refer to "future studies". It's hard to purchase a device today based on tomorrow's studies. You quoted the studies accurately, except for 1 detail in PMID 36282343. You refer to 30 hZ, but the study had a maximum of 20 hZ in both groups. Is it a coincidence that the device you're trying to promote (Marodyne) also has a 30 hZ frequency? I don't know whether 30 hZ vs 20 hZ would make a big difference, but why would you change this detail?

  • @magpiegirl3783

    @magpiegirl3783

    3 ай бұрын

    I think it’s pretty clear that Dr Doug did not promote the Marodyne in this video and was critical of the mega analysis conclusions regarding LIV (Marodyne).

  • @jacquesmertens3369

    @jacquesmertens3369

    3 ай бұрын

    @@magpiegirl3783 It's clear that Dr. Doug modified part 3 after receiving harsh criticism on parts 1 and 2, prompting him to come up with real scientific studies. You could say that the initial sales pitch for Marodyne (as promoted by Dr. Rubin) has been toned down quite a lot because there is indeed very little scientific basis, and now it's just a sales pitch for Dr. Doug's private clinic. What all of us were promised, and didn't get, is an overview of devices that improve bone density without causing damage elsewhere in the body. Dr. Doug made a promise, and it seems we're still stuck in that phase. The fact that low intensity vibration for 10 minutes per day (and supposing you bend your knees under the right angle) is probably safe, but may not produce any result either, does not encourage me to give it a try. You need to bend your knees to prevent the oscillation from terminating inside your skull, but by doing so you also ruin your knees and prevent the oscillation from reaching your spine. My own conclusion is that a low intensity device may be suitable for people with osteoporosis of the hip bone, provided that they adopt the right posture and don't stand on the device for longer than 10 minutes per day, and only as an addition to real, weight bearing exercise, walking etc.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    No coincidence. 30 - 35Hz seems to be the sweet spot. We discuss this more in our healthspan nation! Check it out if you have not yet.You can find further details here --> www.drdouglucas.com/healthspan

  • @SumGirls
    @SumGirls3 ай бұрын

    Yesssss, Dr. Doug! 🦴💪🦴! I’m obsessed with my Power Plate and very consistent about using it, so we’ll know even more after my next DEXA. This is another great video to help everyone too: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oJiszryap67FXbQ.htmlsi=OezWILRyV57FBqhJ

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear that! Thank you for sharing this!

  • @ladyanne8139
    @ladyanne81392 ай бұрын

    I would never consider such a machine. Sounds medical quackery..

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    Ай бұрын

    Not everything may sound of interest to everyone :)

  • @lindakautzman7388
    @lindakautzman73883 ай бұрын

    Once again we get a sales pitch..not buying it.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    We only recommend products that we have reviewed ourselves.

  • @deborahachen7214
    @deborahachen72143 ай бұрын

    A lot of money for a maybe not harmful as the only result. Testing on osteopenia vs osteoporosis with high risk of fracture FRAX results. Jury is still out unfortunately. A great review of the studies, or lack thereof. Sad though that it has not been shown to offer more hope.

  • @Dr_DougLucas

    @Dr_DougLucas

    3 ай бұрын

    Always consult with your doctor first if you have high frax results!

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