UPDATE: A summary chart is now available: usefulcharts.com/collections/religion/products/timeline-of-the-bible Complete Series: 1. Torah - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gI1hzpKRZ9ytiZM.html 2. Prophets - kzread.info/dash/bejne/e3V9y66MfbLNY7Q.html 3. Writings - kzread.info/dash/bejne/gaijkrevd5nHhtY.html 4. Apocrypha - kzread.info/dash/bejne/eo2gvM1teNmTdZs.html 5. Gospels & Acts - kzread.info/dash/bejne/jGqE1NSnmKSxdrQ.html 6. Epistles - kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZImBzremnNCznNI.html 7. Daniel & Revelation - kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIiJtMaPYMafepM.html 8: Summary Chart - kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6l9utyOddrYf8o.html

@nongwadbniah2262

2 жыл бұрын

Hi can I use your video into translating into my language and credit and description shall be added to you?

@briendoyle4680

Жыл бұрын

The Bible is One, Single, Solitary book, and that is the total extent of your evidence to prove your god??? The Bible is Fiction: This 'Bable' book is backed up by absolutely no facts and no evidence for gods! It is not proof for any god(s) The fables are intertwined within historical places and people... eg Egypt and the Pharaohs existed, whereas Moses did NOT exist, and the Exodus did not happen.. ! A 'global' flood never occurred in Geologic history !

@briendoyle4680

Жыл бұрын

@@choward5430 is so wonder-fully nonsense...

@user-ix1rp9ff3p

Жыл бұрын

@@briendoyle4680 found the evangelical zealot terrorist

@aurum6664

Жыл бұрын

Sir sorry to bother but jew is a term for the people that was descendants of judah? And hebrew are descendants of abraham? So there are alot of tribes? So how come it's only jews are scattered and well known around the world?.

To emphasize where source based analysis ends and personal opinion begins characterizes a true scientist. Keep up the great work, Matt.

@HamsterPants522

3 жыл бұрын

And emphasizing that one knows only that one knows nothing is what characterizes a true philosopher.

@russophile9874

3 жыл бұрын

He's a historian, not a scientist,

@DanielS-gv5nj

3 жыл бұрын

@@HamsterPants522 Karl Popper compared that as a socratic ideal vs a platonic ideal. It's one of the most important requirements in the search for truth.

@wankhairulpetra4285

3 жыл бұрын

The title should be "who change Gospel"?

@allantidgwell5624

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer to be an Empiricist. You lot keep getting opinion in my data

Several people have commented on the strangeness of the Northern Kingdom seeming to have more connections with Egypt and the Southern Kingdom seeming to have more connections to Mesopotamia (considering that Egypt is to South and Mesopotamia is to the North). Well, keep in mind that one must consider time as well as geography. It is likely that the Northern Kingdom was older and originated in the days when Egypt was more dominant, whereas the Southern Kingdom lasted longer and reached its peak when Assyria (followed by Babylon) was dominant.

@nervouswilly3978

3 жыл бұрын

I can state categorically that I know exactly nothing about this topic, but it seems to me to make sense that a smallish northern tribe that feels threatened by a Mesopotamian empire would cultivate a relationship with a southern power in an attempt to play them off one another. Obviously, if that makes any sense, then the opposite would work in the other direction as well. Of course, the timing of the existence of the four civilizations at play might blow huge holes in this idea, but it sure seems a pretty tidy explanation absent of any other information.

@joshuagibson6531

3 жыл бұрын

3

@racingace9959

3 жыл бұрын

Love your vids man very Informative. God Bless you.

@hokton8555

3 жыл бұрын

could you make a legendary norse king or cambodian chart?

@GaaraNous

3 жыл бұрын

When you introduced the new hypothesis, my mind immediately went the opposite way of what you said afterward. In my understanding scholars usually associated the usage of YHWH to the Southern-Judean people, while the (more Canaanite-sounding) name Elohim was associated with the North. (If I remember correctly, northern kings or figures seems to tend to use the name ending in -el of -il (reflect the highest God : El, hence Elohim) while the southern names are usually ended with -jah or -iah (from the YHWH)) So what I think immediately was the Moses legend (where he spoke with YHWH) is the southern legend. While Abraham and the patriarchs (where it seem the name Elohim is associated with them) is the northern narrative. Or is this “supposed” associations are already outdated by the consensus of the scholars?

I love these charts. Thank you for your work, visual representations like this are extremely useful for understanding the timelines, bloodlines, and general history. So, thanks!

I've tried to research this on my own, but was unable to find this much information. Very unbiased and educational. Thank you for your help!

I don’t really have much in the way of prior interest or knowledge about this subject, but something about the way you speak and present the material makes it very engaging.

@cayennenaturetrails8953

3 жыл бұрын

yep

@spikefivefivefive

3 жыл бұрын

I had a great government teacher in junior high and high school like that. His name was Tim King.

@luckystriker7489

3 жыл бұрын

I would be careful of that if I were you. Don't confuse charisma with truth. This video is indeed well presented and narrated, but this alone should not make you believe something. Confirm claims with further research before believing them.

@shitzhu16

2 жыл бұрын

me too, as an atheist its interesting.

@vincentvonderlinden6952

8 ай бұрын

One can conclude that someone with a high amount of interest and devotion to a topic can share and transfer his feelings and knowledge when also being charismatic, but it is naturally still necessary to provide sources and evidence for it as a creator of such a video and to question and check it as an interesting viewer.

This is very well done. Kudos!

@UsefulCharts

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrew!

@usergiodmsilva1983PT

3 жыл бұрын

This just need History From a Jew guy and we are set.

@abhishekjrp13

3 жыл бұрын

The two of you should collab!

@stephs8665

3 жыл бұрын

OMG it's Andrew, we need a Collab!

@zbenx7474

3 жыл бұрын

@@usergiodmsilva1983PT . . v v v .

I'm an Orthodox rabbi and still found this very intriguing. Especially the part about the name Jacob being associated with the Southern Kingdom.

@RabbiJoeInJerusalem

Жыл бұрын

@sassy pethel And what's the problem with that?

@noyourewrong599

Жыл бұрын

you might want to do something useful with your life lol.

@RabbiJoeInJerusalem

Жыл бұрын

@@noyourewrong599 Something useful like trolling three-month-old comments?

@noyourewrong599

Жыл бұрын

@@RabbiJoeInJerusalem I'm not trolling, being religious in 2022 is pretty pathetic

@RabbiJoeInJerusalem

Жыл бұрын

@@noyourewrong599 Well, you've convinced me.

Sending much love to Jews and Christians. As a Muslim, I am always interested in the similarities among the three faiths.

@d.iv.in.e

Жыл бұрын

may love reach you back brother, our governments may be different but we all live and breath the same

@suzybailey-koubti8342

Жыл бұрын

May Allah continue to bless you and your family ❤️☪️✝️✡️

@adith9327

Жыл бұрын

Both Christinity and islam are copied from judiasm

@ashokaphillips7372

Жыл бұрын

This is an amazing comment

@EsaelPaggin024

11 ай бұрын

Yet there are too many differences to ignore in regards to Islam.

The real history is so much more fascinating than the literal myths/legends. Understanding how groups were able to synthesis a single narrative to unify and come together is dope

@UsefulCharts

3 жыл бұрын

I so agree!

@jeffpayne4697

3 жыл бұрын

And you see that adopting parts of different religions helps transitions of power all through history and still happens today

@erkinalp

3 жыл бұрын

@@UsefulCharts Can you do the same thing on Quran? I loved this video a lot.

@TheLincolnrailsplitt

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe, maybe not.

@williancruz9657

3 жыл бұрын

@@erkinalp We have almost 0 info about the quran in this vein. Most of the arab tribes didn't write and the ones that did didn't have a strong culture of documentation. All our sources come from centuries later.

This is terrific.

@UsefulCharts

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mr. Beat!

@SirDerpofCamelot

3 жыл бұрын

Giv me money mister beast,.

@GambinoTheGoat

3 жыл бұрын

@@SirDerpofCamelot n o

@whtbobwntsbobget

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Mr Beat. Your video on president's religions was great!

@DJemvy

2 жыл бұрын

@@UsefulCharts thank you for this. I grew up in a mostly non religious Jewish household and have been interested about more details. Would you mind me asking what denomination you follow? I'm trying to find something I can reconcile with

I love how objectively you explain the topics, there is so much research behind it. Thank you so much for your work

For reals: you are my outright favorite channel now. Full-on zero-to-hero. This was amazing and soooo fucking baffling to just 🤯 I’ve been sitting & thinking about this third-theory for like 10 minutes just in awe over “what we thought” vs “what is prevalent now/future” is soooo fun. Thank you so much for doing what you do!

Reminds me of the duality in Egyptian mythology which came from the period Egypt was divided into a lower kingdom and an upper kingdom, which were then unified. That's how the feline deity became bast in one kingdom and Sekhmet in the other. With the Reunification causing them to share their role where one was a domestic cat feline goddess: bast and the other a lioness feline goddess: Sekhmet.

@simplystreeptacular

3 жыл бұрын

I am still not over the fact that Lower Egypt is in the north and Upper Egypt is in the south. (Yeah, I know, the Nile flows from south to north into the Mediterranean, blah blah. Still a mind-screw. [lol])

@arte0021

3 жыл бұрын

Is that also the reason why Amon and Ra were combined into one god?

@artu165

3 жыл бұрын

@@arte0021 Yes, They fused Amun and Ra into Amun-Ra or Amun-Re

@arpitdas4263

3 жыл бұрын

@@simplystreeptacular Become an Australian

@jakeaurod

3 жыл бұрын

How long before future historians ask similar questions about the North and South in the United States?

i realy like your videos about religion, they are very neutral and fact based and dont offend anyone :) a perfect example how to talk about religion

@Danishmastery

3 жыл бұрын

@Gary Allen yeah I was just about to say that.

@jrhermosura4600

3 жыл бұрын

offending anyone nowadays can sentence you to a 500 year imprisonment

@juholaitakari1305

3 жыл бұрын

Talking can be biased, however teaching should not.

@seekfactsnotfiction9056

2 жыл бұрын

@Gary Allen As a Muslim, I agree with that theory as well. Authentic accurate facts that can be clearly verified and traced it's original divine sources through reliable unbroken seal chain of narrations.

@fukpoeslaw3613

2 жыл бұрын

@@seekfactsnotfiction9056 'divine sources' have nothing to do with facts

Interesting video, thanks for summarizing some research and asking some questions!

Thank you for your excellent video and channel. I'll probably say this in other comments in other videos but your background in education has enabled you to truly unlock a style of learning that many of us are coming to these comments to let you know about. There is something very game changing about learning through your videos. I appreciate everything you do. Thanks!

@jmcgraw6

Жыл бұрын

~ A picture is worth a thousand words.

I have studied these theories 10 years ago, too difficult without an illustration though. I am amazed at how you present these things. We need more content like this. Keep it up.

People in the future will ask, "Who wrote Wikipedia?"

@joecaner

2 жыл бұрын

Various professional and armature academics who's entries are edited by various corporate, financial & intelligence agencies with their particular views of how "sensitive" information ought to be presented would be my guess.

@Zonnymaka

2 жыл бұрын

Aren't the wise men in the holy basements?

@timotheelegrincheux2204

2 жыл бұрын

@@joecaner What is an armature academic? Is it something like an armchair academic? Whose, not who's, which means "who is."

@OzixiThrill

2 жыл бұрын

@@timotheelegrincheux2204 My guess would be an armchair academic, a hobbyist or someone who does operate in the field, but has no formal education in it. Potentially people who are in the process of getting their formal education.

@timotheelegrincheux2204

2 жыл бұрын

@@OzixiThrill The writing of that "armature" person was definitely not divinely inspired.

I was originally looking for something random to watch but this is honestly the best thing I could have watch during my free time.

Both the quality & neutrality of the information as well as the top notch presentation style and editing/graphics made this a very interesting and captivating watch, thanks!

I’m as atheist as it gets but I still find your religious videos very interesting Matt! So much history in them

@Nayshjin

3 жыл бұрын

me too

@nikolaisalvador7609

3 жыл бұрын

I'm an atheist too. Subjects like this is interesting as an atheist because it gives me more explanation to different religions, their essence, and their history.

@zombielizard218

3 жыл бұрын

as an atheist myself, the writing of the bible fascinates me, once you can disassociate from "unchanging divine text" and start really looking into how and why this stuff was written, its some amazing history.

@schloops8473

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Just followed the first one and might become addicted if the others are as good.

@cocopuffs2

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not an atheist and believe in God. And I'm not one to push my faith on anyone. But I'm curious from an atheists' point-of-view on their thoughts to faiths, in general. Does an atheist not believe in anything because of so many religions in the world, or is it because of scientific proof that's needed for one to believe in something? Or do atheist don't believe in something because of rules and guidelines a person must follow of that faith? Even though I believe in Christianity, even I fall short of not being perfect and following everything I should follow on. And I don't judge others' when many people have. I'm just curious about atheists' way of life. Even agnosticism.

Oh, this is going to be good. Edit: And it was!

@cayennenaturetrails8953

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@goodmorning8526

3 жыл бұрын

Zdecydowanie

I find all of this absolutely mind-bending. People who try to understand this kind of matters have to cross and weigh data from different eras, different disciplines (archeology, historiography, exegesis and what may be chronicles as well as pure legend), all with a lot of stratification. And the output can be just as messy and intertwined with the classification (hence the validity) of the input! So crazy, so cool.

Well this was absolutely fascinating! This is the first of your videos that I've seen, and I'm subscribing right now. Myself, I was taught the Documentary Hypothesis in Bible College, but have leaned more towards the Supplementary Hypothesis over the last 25 years or so, though I tend to think more of it was composed/compiled during the captivity than is commonly assumed. This was my first exposure to the third hypothesis, and, boy, that's just causing my brain to run a million miles an hour. Thank you very much! Looking forward to more of your stuff!

This is extremely well done. I'm never one to comment on KZread but i am impressed. And I've never heard of your third theory before. Looks like I've got some reading to do. Thank you!

@omargerardolopez3294

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations, bruv! here starts your comment history

This series helped me do some deconstructing of the "biblical literalism" that I was raised with. The actual history is a lot more interesting anyways.

@blueashke

2 жыл бұрын

Right? I was raised Orthodox Presbyterian and got excommunicated at 13. I'm now 40 and still figuring my way away from the insanity I was raised with and this channel helps SO much with it.

@fordan_gamsy3521

2 жыл бұрын

@@blueashke I was a mormon, really orthodox Utah type. The materials they provide are a complete mockery of actual history. Semtetic, Egyptian, and mesoamerican/great lakes native peoples (depending on the apologist) history were all discarded for a sick narrative that in the end amounted to little more than "obey the mega-corporation even if it costs you everything". This series is revealing a more real, more meaningful Bible that presents itself now more like a philosophical debate among scribes through story telling. That speaks to me more than any "infallible book" ever could.

@blueashke

2 жыл бұрын

@@fordan_gamsy3521 Right? I think those of us who find our way out are much more able to consider the possibility of science and history proving the existence of Something greater than ourselves rather than merely using it to disprove. I am fascinated as I continue to learn things all these years later. I graduated in 1999 believing the Earth to be only 5000 years old and let me tell you, they churned girls out of my school and threw them to the wolves. On average, we married rather than graduate college. Or in my case, wasn't allowed to go because I had been in psychiatric care so wasn't acceptable at any Biblical school and they didn't help you apply to non-Christian colleges.

@Achill101

2 жыл бұрын

@@blueashke - excommunicated at THIRTEEN? That sounds weird to me. I wish you a good journey figuring out your way.

@blueashke

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Achill101 Oh yeah. Heck, my sister was only 11, but because we were both communicant members, when our parents decided it was a cult and wrote a letter expressing their intention to leave the church (due to them demanding that they give up my mother's unborn child because she was not my father's child), we signed as well. The elders rejected the letter and excommunicated all four of us. I'd only been a communicant member for 8 days (sister did her confession of faith earlier than I did).

You're videos are excellent quality and very informative. Keep up the great work!

I read 'Who wrote the Bible?' by R. E. Friedman recently. He is a proponent of Documentary hypothesis, and after reading the book I must say he is rather convicing. But whatever hypostesis you prefer the book itself is rather fun read :)

I dig all your content but this episode was incredibly fascinating. That new theory makes a lot of sense, but I’m just a casual history fan. Can’t wait for the rest of the series!

Hell yeah, I finally arrived on one of Useful Charts videos within the first 5 hours of its existence. Love the video, excellent work Matt

I love this channel, definitely the best explanation of the origin of bible. Great use of charts. Great work

@speedygonzales2052

Жыл бұрын

So what have you learned about the origins of the Bible ?

Thanks, Brilliant job. I really love your way of thinking. And I'm certainly on board with 3th option

This topic seems so huge, I hope to see even more detailed videos

This clarifies so many things, even for a layperson like myself. Channels like yours help me to overcome my deconversion anger and to give focus to the fascination I still have for (parts of) the bible.

@nopurposeposting1548

2 жыл бұрын

whats a deconversion anger?

@mericanraccoon

2 жыл бұрын

@@nopurposeposting1548 while I am not him, I would assume he talks of the anger that would follow discovering that you were lied to about about history and such throughout your life in the name of the bible or any other religious text and the changing of view or "deconversion" that comes with searching for a more sourced and academic truth

@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491

2 жыл бұрын

ok God is God He might temporarily "hide" but He Always Smiles. jews are put in a tough spot. their allies have to stand with you. that's what you feel. ps don't fret: indians are also Chosen: and they have been screwed just as good, and Rock just as good hare krishna : )

@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491

2 жыл бұрын

@@mericanraccoon no it's the painintheaxx of actually being a chosen people.

@mericanraccoon

2 жыл бұрын

@@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 ?

i agree, that third theory is super interesting, and i like the extra observations you made regarding it. thanks for the informative video!

Hats off to your hardwork & thoroughness, simply Superb Matt

This is great! This is the first time I'm hearing of the 3rd theory. I really like it, I think it explains a lot. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series!

It would be so much funnier if the acronym was JEDI

@nealjroberts4050

3 жыл бұрын

JEhuDI? 😋💛

@arta.xshaca

3 жыл бұрын

@@nealjroberts4050 interesting connection, wonder if they made JEDI from JEhuDI.

@mikesmovingimages

3 жыл бұрын

@@arta.xshaca Lucas would probably say yes because he wants all his Star Wars names to have deeper meanings than they actually possess.

First video of yours that I have watched. Blown away! No other words🤗🙏

Clear, interesting and thought provoking. Thanks. Would it be possible to add dates for the events, i.e. Babylonian exile, destruction by Assyrians etc?

@coreyham3753

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed ... good overview.

@dickwagenaar3684

2 жыл бұрын

The entire time I was watcing this, I wanted DATES because WHEN is as important as WHO.

@adapienkowska2605

Жыл бұрын

Assyria conquered Israel around 720 BCE (and it was brutal, Sargon II is said to depot almost 30k people and kill many others) Assyria fell in 609 BCE to Babylon and Medes. Babylon conquered Judah in 587 BCE (in turn Cyrus the Great conquered them in 539 BCE bringing stability, religious freedom and new government system to the Near East).

@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh

Жыл бұрын

I will definitely look into this idea of monolatry. I don't see it as a big deal. Either YHWH is the most important God and other gods are just lesser beings or YHWH is the only God and all other beliefs are false teachings.

@asr2009

11 ай бұрын

@@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh there is no monolatry in the Torah but monothiesm, i think. The only possible way it got conflated with monolatry is possibly due to the thought process of the northern israelites who were polythiests for some time period. There has been incidents where transition from polythiesm has been to monolatry not monothiesm. for example Pharaoh Akhenetan(i just messed up the spelling i guess)

The new hypothesis puts a very interesting interpretive spin on the exhortations to treat the foreigner as one's own! Especially since (I'm going off of memory, so I may be way wrong) the verses containing said exhortations come from the more Levitical and Moses oriented material. Loved this video! I look forward to seeing the rest of the series.

Love the topic! Slight typo: Mesop**o**tamia, near the end (15:08). I wouldn't normally be this pedantic, but these get printed as posters, so I thought I would point that one out so it can be fixed in the printed versions.

@jeff__w

2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad you mentioned it: ‘meso’ in the middle of/between + ‘potamus’ river. The word _hippopotamus_ has the same ‘potamus’ root: ‘hippo’ horse + ‘potamus’ river so it’s not hard to get the spelling right.

This was fascinating!

You have definitely found your niche in this world…. Thank u for all the hard research, for sticking your neck out and for stretching my knowledge as well 👍

Last time i was this early Jacob and Israel were two different people

@thecreativecorner2002

3 жыл бұрын

They both are same

@108asf

3 жыл бұрын

Which one was the grandson of Brahma, by the way?

@dogeofgreatness2222

3 жыл бұрын

@@108asf Brahma's only grandson was Zoroaster for FFS. Who has been telling you those lies? Zues or that cousin of his Conficus, damn liars.

@duprattcarol

3 жыл бұрын

@@108asf You are mixing up Indian and Jewish religious beliefs.

@kerajohnson1922

3 жыл бұрын

@@dogeofgreatness2222 Zeus? I thought it was Jove, maybe even Amun-Ra. Those bastards.

Remember there is still a small group of people practising the religion of the North: The Samaritans. Their bible and the differences in it could be a very important clue in how those from the North joined the religion of the South.

@Achill101

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say it's the religion of the North that is practised by the Samaritants: their Torah is nearly a copy to the Jewish Torah (but instead of Jerusalem Gerizim is the cult center), and the Jewish Torah was developed also in the Babylonian exile. It's more likely that the people living in the area of the old Northern kingdom adopted the Torah after the Babylonian exile had ended. Later, the Hasmoneans conquered Samaria and destroyed their cult center at Gerizim.

@revcrussell

2 жыл бұрын

@@Achill101 It is more likely that the Torah was composed right after the Babylonian Exile, not during it. This would have included the religion of the Northern Kingdom.

@Achill101

2 жыл бұрын

@@revcrussell - of course, the Torah included much of the religion of the Northern kingdom: the exodus of educated refugees from the North to Judah during and after the destruction of the Northern kingdom in 722BC led to a threefold increase of Jerusalem and to an influx of their scriptures, like the narratives of the Exodus, of Saul, of the ark, and of Jacob. Those narratives had been integrated into Juda's religion by the time of Josiah. The question is if anything from the Northern kingdom was included in the Torah after the destruction of Jerusalem. You seem to think Yes, I tend to think No. A question that is independent of that: where do you think the Torah was composed after the Babylonian exile? The first answer would probably be Jerusalem, but Jerusalem and its surrounding was sparsely populated during the Persian times, archeology shows. Probably not enough populated to feed a large number of priests and writers. Jerusalem grows again during Hasmonean times - but that's already late for composing the Torah, too late? An alternative would be Babylon, among the exiles and later among those exiles who stayed in Babylon.

@davidtrak2679

2 жыл бұрын

@@Achill101 This is spot on. It's tempting to see them as the shunned origin story, but their version is really just a copy rendered in their script (a version of the old phoenician script) with some spelling variations, and a few big narrative changes. So either both Jews and Samaritans have a very old, almost 3000 thousand year old, pre-Persian version almost completely unchanged to this day, or the Samaritan one actually branches of from the Judahite one, then only left unchanged, or rather slightly deviating from this canonized version, from around 2000-2500 years ago.

@Achill101

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidtrak2679 - I share this view: "the Samaritan one actually branches of from the Judahite one, then only left unchanged, or rather slightly deviating from this canonized version, from around 2000-2500 years ago". . . . One small caveat: some copying errors might have entered the bible, before the Masoretes finalized their version. The Samaritan version and the Septuagint allows us in a few cases to peek beyond the Masoretic version. But these cases don't include big changes of meaning and theology IIRC.

Brilliant! So thankful that you are up to date with modern scholarship. Scholarship is advancing so rapidly.

I really like your video. I’m a very secular person myself and I don’t really believe much in any religious teachings so your secular take on how the Bible was written really taught me some stuff

@charleswheeler3689

Жыл бұрын

Many Jews and Christians of the un-fundamentalist type accept the academic methods used in modern Biblical scholarship while rejecting an avowed atheist of agnostic viewpoint. Like accepting science and the validity of the scientific method but rejecting materialism and scientism.

@user-dh6pz5eo2r

11 ай бұрын

Just read Quran and you will be Muslim

@pen1sman

11 ай бұрын

@@user-dh6pz5eo2r no. No I wouldn’t be 😂

@user-dh6pz5eo2r

11 ай бұрын

@@pen1sman because you afraid from the truth 🙂 Just I do this for myself so if you care or not it's my problem ❤

@user-dh6pz5eo2r

11 ай бұрын

@@pen1sman because you afraid from the truth 🙂 Just I do this for myself so if you care or not it's your problem ❤

UsefulCharts dropping the “we Jews” to let us all know he’s Jewish makes me happy as another jew

@gnosis2871

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest I pretty much just assumed he was Jewish and was right

It’s been a long time coming. Been waiting for something like this.

@writteninthesky

3 жыл бұрын

when "student" is ready, "Master" appears 🌞

@laweya

3 жыл бұрын

Mee too

This is brilliant. It's nice meeting a brother that doesn't accept all text as 100%. Use of logic in this realm is lacking sadly. I loved this video and makes a lot of sense

@ruptro6658

4 ай бұрын

You’re looking for things you won’t find. You’ll eventually learn that god loves you

Thank you for a wonderful lecture. This is such a difficult subject. Charts are a brilliant device.

I've always liked Freidman's earlier book "Who Wrote the Bible", so I'll have to check out the newer one you listed in the references, Matt! Thanks for always thought- provoking videos!

@cayennenaturetrails8953

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@davidbarber3821

3 жыл бұрын

I learned this from Prof Christine Hayes Yale videos & bought Friedman's Bible where he highlights the sources in an English translated Tanakh

@SarahElisabethJoyal

3 жыл бұрын

That's the first book I read on this subject as well, and even if the info is dated I still think it's interesting to see the process of how they put the clues together

Thank you for this series! I love that you’re able to break it up into understandable parts.

with your explanation it suddenly make sense on how the new testament was put together. the torah combined different stories in one book. sort of like a topical collection. the new testament includes many books by different authors even though the subject is often the same. thank you!

This is a fantastic summary thank you very much and very helpful for my studies.

OOOOH this new third theory is pretty interesting!! I'm going to have to dive deeper into that. It sounds really promising. We only learned the first two theories when I was in university (or at least I think that's what we learned. My professor didn't teach it very clearly, at least not to me at the time. Either that or, as I had never studied Tanakh outside of Hebrew school before, that I struggled to reconcile historical analysis with religious analysis because that wasn't a thing at my childhood Hebrew school).

@HappyBeezerStudios

2 жыл бұрын

The P source really feels like a retcon just looking at the graph at 5:30, almost as if they inserted a book and then had to modify the texts before and after to make the new part fit. Or that happened later on to make it flow better.

@kevionrogers2605

Жыл бұрын

@HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul Qemant people in Ethiopia use the P source in Leviticus as a stand alone work, so it being added to the Torah as an independent source is very probable to me.

It would be super interesting to see more detail about the stories and myths from each branch and their origins from the regions.

The #3 Theory would give many of my own questions more solid answers 🤔 The logic appears quite solid. I’ll be staying alert to any information that arises that addresses this in any way. Fascinating!

great videos. The matter of factly presentation is exactly the right tone for what could otherwise be seen as a competition of ideas.

I found your video on "Who wrote the Bible -- 1: the Torah" very useful and informative. Thank you very much! I wasn't entirely ignorant of some of the concepts; your presentation went smoothly from what I knew to what you had heard of as recent thinking. In my teen years, I had read "Isaac Asimov's Bible", and what he writes is fairly close to what you describe.

This is an academic paper in video form. Super cool work; I didn't realize you have a PhD in this!

Thank you so much for this video! It is so refreshing to hear Jewish history coming from a Jewish source/person, it feels so much more accurate/respectful.

This is really a very interesting video. Thanks for sharing. I particularly like the 3rd theory ...

You sound like the "lock picking lawyer" to me - both in tone and cadence. I love your presentation of this information.

@spocksvulcanbrain

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing. I had to look to see if they were the same. But this guy said he has a degree in religion and this is his full-time job - creating charts. The LPL is a lawyer whose full-time job is now KZread. But damn, they sound like the same guy.

@aarondriscoll287

2 жыл бұрын

"This is the Nitpicking Historian, and today I have historical context from the Torah that I will be unlocking."

@mondavou9408

2 жыл бұрын

@@aarondriscoll287 That's a new channel you've got right there! LOL

@joeomundson

2 жыл бұрын

@@aarondriscoll287 "While it looked pretty convincing at first glance, a closer inspection revealed several major design oversights..."

@1John3.8

2 жыл бұрын

"Leviticus is binding"

I’m about to start teaching an Old Testament course and this video has got me to change my starting points. Thanks for sharing

@MrLP3xp3rt

2 жыл бұрын

Wait u teach fairy tales?

@rolesare

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrLP3xp3rt yes

@AsafeFialho

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrLP3xp3rt Reddit Moment

@absentmindedshirokuma8539

2 жыл бұрын

@Ibrahim Alloush fairy tales are products of human culture, it's part that made us human and teach us a lot about humanity.

@absentmindedshirokuma8539

2 жыл бұрын

@Ibrahim Alloush and what if it's fairy tales?

I have your first chart up in my office. Love it

@UsefulCharts

Жыл бұрын

Like a vintage 2012 Timeline of world history? Sweet. Also, hello fellow KZreadr!

@UsefulCharts

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I am.

@DrBeauHightower

Жыл бұрын

@@UsefulCharts yep It's great

@rod2274

Жыл бұрын

@@DomainofKnowlegdia obviously you don’t believe that that’s fine but he’s just putting information out there you don’t have to listen everyone is entitled to discussion

marvellous presentation = graphics, sequence of terms, names, sources, concepts, ideas, QUESTIONS Thank you, very helpful and interesting much appreciated

This is so brilliant. I just finished reading the Old Testament for the first time cover to cover (but have studied it piece by piece my whole life) - when you mentioned the Third theory and started giving commentary my heart starting beating rapidly, and I had small and brief tears come to my eyes, it made so much sense to me and so many connections were being made inside my head. I have always wondered and been amazed at how Abraham blesses the twelve tribes, and then Moses also blesses the twelve tribes (a little differently). Understanding that the Torah is full of doublets does explain why this could be, but the hypothesis of the dual origin gives further insight into the reason behind this double blessing (as well as an excellent understanding in a plethora of other instances). Thank you so much, this was an amazing, transparent, open-minded, informative, and intriguing presentation! I'm looking forward to the next part!

@metallkopf988

2 жыл бұрын

The two genesis creation myths are very much distinctive of this duality. One emphasizes water as sth that needs to be separated from the land during creation. (Genesis 1,6 and following) In the other, water is something that gives life to the earth and causes the plants to grow (Genesis 2,5 and following). This sort of thing is likely deliberate and descriptive of a common belief on the nature of water, depending on the different aspects of the nature of water as a giver of life, but also as a destructive force that needs protecting from.

@cptrelentless80085

2 жыл бұрын

Most of the Old Testament is ripped off from other religions, which is why it doesn’t make sense

@kathleenrobertpogue6818

2 жыл бұрын

@@cptrelentless80085 yup, like Noah's flood comes from the story of gilgamesh

@trizvanov

2 жыл бұрын

@@kathleenrobertpogue6818 The story of a "Great Flood" exists in every religion. All to do with the fact that humans tend to live close to their water sources, which as you know tend to swell and flood.

@zrhalo

2 жыл бұрын

@@trizvanov It's (flood myths) more likely to do with the drastic rise in sea levels at the end of the last ice age and all of the recent focus on the era 12,500 years ago.

That was super interesting, can't wait for the next one.

@cayennenaturetrails8953

3 жыл бұрын

me too

Wow, thanks for a thoughtful and thorough analysis. Much appreciated…

Thank you so much for this serie!!

I'm loving all these videos that go way beyond the charts!

I didn't know you had a Ph.D!! Hell yeah, dude. I love your channel, I had no idea how comprehensive it is, thank you thank you thank you

Fascinating. #3 Makes sense to me.

Just found this. Very nice presentation! One thing I’ve been wondering for years, that the existing theories never seemed to account for: why do the Samaritans have a nearly-identical Torah? (And one more similar to the Septuagint than the Masoretic text.) How did that happen? Either the Torah would have had to have been written before the Exile. Or if the Samaritans adopted a Torah written by Jews after the Exile, the history of Samaritans and Judaism must be a lot more complicated than we’ve thought.

@dawnadmin8119

Жыл бұрын

@don julio That’s not correct: the Dead Sea Scrolls prove that both versions of the Hebrew Bible are older than Jesus. The Masoretic text was neither created later, nor are most of the differences between it and the Septuagint translation errors. There were already two different versions of the text when Jesus was born, and we don’t know exactly how that happened. However, the part about which version the Samaritan Torah is closer to was really a throwaway comment. The real mystery is: if the Torah was only written after the fall of Samaria, how did ir become a Samaritan holy book?

Ohh, that dual origins theory makes so much sense and makes for such a satisfying narrative, I'm onboard. Great video, as usual!

@deponensvogel7261

2 жыл бұрын

That's the danger, though. People tend to believe in narratives, which often blinds us to more grounded approaches.

This is absolutely marvellous for me. Thank you so much for your outstanding work.

thank you for clarifying a very confusing topic. the charts are very helpful.

Great explanation going further my expectations , making a lot of sense to me

I can't wait for the rest of this series!

I like how you start with your credentials off the bat

Grew up catholic so never read the Bible. Just had readings and gospels all chopped up. Reading The Message now and the easy read makes so much more sense. Will watch this series as you go along. Done with episode 1. Susie.

Theory 3 has been what I have been subscribed to for the last 35 years

"Jacob fled to the country of Aram; Israel served to get a wife, and to pay for her he tended sheep. The Lord used a prophet to bring Israel up from Egypt, by a prophet he cared for him." (Hos 12:12-13, NIV) Hosea is one of the earliest biblical books that can be securably dated (c. 760-720 BCE) and is of Northern provenance. This quote demonstrates that both the Jacob=Israel going to Aram and the Prophet-led exodus from Egypt stories were current in Northern Israel in the Assyrian period. This alone is a great difficulty for Schmid's theory (#3 in the video). There are other difficulties as well with positing such a late date for redaction, but I think this suffices.

@randyrentner2314

3 жыл бұрын

Might not Hosea have had a later redactor as well?

@benjaminromm8184

3 жыл бұрын

@@randyrentner2314 I see no literary basis for such a claim. Certainly always something to consider (although these claims of redaction tend to be unfalsifiable and can therefore be used by scholars in bad faith to deal with difficult evidence) I say no literary basis because the lines are integral to the prophecy in Hosea and not similar linguistically or in content to texts which are accepted as "later."

@marvalice3455

2 жыл бұрын

As a believer myself, u would assert that even if #3 was true, the 2 traditions would still be coming from a common source

@marvalice3455

2 жыл бұрын

@@randyrentner2314 typically you can tell from the structure of the writing.

Great Work! Looking forward to the next episode!

I am right there on the limb with ya buddy! This third hypothesis seems to best fit both the facts of history and the biblical text. I think the future will prove this model most correct.

THE 3RD THEORY sounds very interesting and academically valid. You present some interesting facts and theories and you make some convincing arguments. Let's see if it is supported and accepted by 'peer' academics. I've been out of uni for 15yrs, so I was still teaching my students the 1st and 2nd theories. The 3rd theory will lead to some valuable conversations. Thanks.

An Indonesian here. I only heard the first theory before watching the video. I didn't know there was the other two competing theories. Thank you for updating our knowledge.

I am not particularly religious, but I have always been fascinated by religion. I must admit that I have spent much more time considering the authorship of the NT and practically none on Torah or OT as a whole. You have electrified a renewed interest, and I look forward to the rest of your series. I also have a massive interest in the visualization of information going right back to my younger years an authors like Edward Tufte. Not to mention my interest in history (3 years of Classical Studies at University before I changed tack to information technology). Why had the algorithm not suggested your channel until now? It is obviously not perfect.

@dg8620

Жыл бұрын

Blasphemy! You must keep your faith in the Algorithm, peace be upon it.

@hannojaanniidas9655

Жыл бұрын

This info is fascinating. Suggest you watched Christine Hayes (Yale) lectures on the Hebrew Bible. Her exposition is brilliant, but her graphics are poor.

Your theory about the merge of Israel and Judah is fascinating and the idea of the 2 origin stories makes a lot of sense

Can you do a video on the demarcation and divisions of the Vedas? They’re a large body of Hindu texts and have Samhitas, Brahmans, Aranyakas, Upanishads in terms of content differentiation, but also the Rig, Yajur, Sama & Atharvaveda in terms of names of Veda, etc. And like go in depth on the different Upanishads, etc. I feel that’s be a cool video lot to explore.

@asr2009

11 ай бұрын

the thing is that the oldest known written copy of vedas is just of 14th century CE. Before that, we only know of oral tradition being used. We know that ancient indians focused on oral tradition a lot.

Jacob as two persons looks great, we have two nations, and when they unite, theytook two heroes and make them one.

@robertt9342

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t be the first time. Composite characters are common especially when combining stories and reducing them Dow to their basic parts.

@sam21462

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertt9342 - They do it in modern historically based movies and TV series all the time.

You are going to help me for my Archeology, Anthropology, and Psychology of Religion-Studies. So, in future, we will become colleauges! ;) Maybe. Your knowledge and videos related to it, is incredible. Thank you very much.

Mas respect, good work, and for free. Thanks for existing.

I idly wondered about this stuff since I saw a Dead Sea Scrolls exhibition. Thanks for the beginner friendly presentation, it is fun.

Excellent and I think you're spot on here - well done!

Very good to learning English! Thank you for having Subtitles!

Retired now for a few decades, from teaching, I have reached a point of enjoying many of my passions. They now include reading. Although reading for personal enjoyment is a recent one, I started out with a list of novels that I should read before I die. It morphed into the best writers of all time. And, of course the list is dominated by Russian poets and writers. One of my favourite novels(The Master and Margarita) lead me down the path to the Christian Bible, the Torah, etc... And of course, here I am. Your examination of the 'major' books is very objective and, to me, also very respectful. Thanks much. But If I may, could you perhaps do a presentation on Deism, since it, to me anyway, seems to be a logical( pun not intended) alternative/choice.

@glc0stanza

7 ай бұрын

Yes to the Deism. Recently came across it myself and would love a history.