So I may have gotten some dates mixed up. >_ When this assassination attempt took place, the Drukhari could not have known about the failure of the Golden Throne specifically, but even then killing the Emperor would still be a beneficial act to Commoraghn society (panic = easy pickings for raiders) This would also mean that the Ynnari themselves wouldn't have orchestrated it, *but* given the inscription on an exodite tablet, there could have been a 'proto-ynnari' cult that simply never grew as powerful who sought to orchestrate the same result.

@internetzenmaster8952

6 жыл бұрын

Sooooo blame we're still blaming the back-stabbing panzees then?

@40KTheories

6 жыл бұрын

You always blame the filthy xenos

@majormajorasic

6 жыл бұрын

What are the chances it was Emperor himself? To cease his torment and either ascend to divinity or reincarnate on the spot?

@SideBurn12

6 жыл бұрын

Shit happens. Nice of you to address it though 👍

@Ranmus

6 жыл бұрын

The inquisition making mistakes? Say it isn't so...

It was the Dark Angels. They know Cypher is trying to see the Emperor. Can't see him if he is assassinated. *Azreal tapping his temple*

@RocketHarry865

5 жыл бұрын

Sammeal: Azreal I would like to talk with you about my opinions. Sapphon the Master of Sanctity, Ezekiel the Grand Master of the Libarium and I have been thinking lately you are starting to go overboard with this whole Cypher and the Fallen business. These last few centuries since you had arisen to Supreme Grand Master our hunts for the fallen haven been getting darker as we the Unforgiven, have been committing atrocities that are arguably far more heretical in their nature than the sins that were committed by Luther and the original Fallen traitors

@phoenixdblack

4 жыл бұрын

@@RocketHarry865 *Sammael instantly getting beaten down by Asmodai*

" i want to hire you to kill the emperor of mankind." "...you mean the one thats dead?" "exactly. now get to it."

@SC-ce3vp

4 жыл бұрын

Just cut the power to the throne you don't need to kill big E

It was no-one. The assassin was just trying to show-off by killing the most protected target in the galaxy and he made up this "employer" story to save face when he failed.

@gamer65688

6 жыл бұрын

Ludovic Gelli actually, thats sounds pretty good

@Leivve

6 жыл бұрын

It's just a prank bro. Social experiment.

@kishinasura1504

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds something the Eldar would do. Or maybe it was Alpharius.

@adamofblastworks1517

5 жыл бұрын

@@kishinasura1504 you mean Omegon? Alpharius is confirmed dead afaik.

@kishinasura1504

5 жыл бұрын

@@adamofblastworks1517 that's what he wants you to believe

Clearly this brutally cunning and cunningly brutal plan could only be the work of the Orks!

@loganb7059

6 жыл бұрын

Coop Ork Snipers to be exact!

@-Siculus-Hort-

5 жыл бұрын

Jus' drop a rok on 'em.

@cryptosporidium1375

5 жыл бұрын

Coop The beast did almost succeed, hubris bogged his efforts

@alizard7617

5 жыл бұрын

Imperial palace is overrun by purple orks

@Amfortas

5 жыл бұрын

Gork= brutally cunning Mork= cunningly brutal

A lot of commenters here seem to be forgetting what happens within 0.00001 seconds of the Emperor dying: Terra is swallowed up in a massive warp rift, the control structure of the Imperium dies and the Imperium is dead. That's why the big E doesn't kill himself, that's why the Horus Heresey was such a perfect victory for chaos: they found a way to trap the Emperor. It's mentioned in Dark Imperium that the Emperor's reaction to seeing Guilliman again is like a man in prison who sees a hacksaw or file being delivered to him. To Guilliman's regret he is not the person delivering the file, but the file itself. The big E's hopes of escape rest with Guilliman now, no way he wants someone to kill him.

@xenostyrant4118

6 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty certain that the Warp Rift was sealed but I may be wrong

@QuinchGaming

6 жыл бұрын

Last I read the rift was contained but as it happened so close to the Heresy there was no time to close it, or reconstruct the failed portion of the webway that had collapsed due to the damage Magnus accidentally caused. It had taken the Emperor decades to create what he'd done so far and a couple of years wasn't sufficient to seal it. Its currently held back, largely in part, by the Emperors own will and powers which is why they need sacrifices to maintain the Astronomicon as the Emperor has insufficient remaining power to do both.

@toluabisola

6 жыл бұрын

In the latest Horus Hersey book about Vulcan "Old Earth" The Emperor's plans to deal with the warp gate is revealed. I don't want to give away any spoilers but to it isn't going to go down the way Chaos thinks :)

@CarlNordell

6 жыл бұрын

It is possible the adeptus mechanicus will collect and use blackstone to construct pylons on Terra, essentially sealing or blocking the warp-rift as we have seen on Cadia.

@MegatronSmurf

6 жыл бұрын

Peter Quint you are correct on every level

“I won’t tell you” *space marine* “you know we can eat the memories out of you right?”

@SideBurn12

6 жыл бұрын

stephen19590 If yer interested in Astartes interrogation techniques I would recommend the audiobook Throne of Lies. Unfortunately the author kinda chickens out and don't describe the different techniques that well detailed, but at least it gives a small hint.

@zaczane

6 жыл бұрын

Huh? You know that actually makes a lot of sense. I wonder if the Custodes have that ability? If they do then perhaps the Custode who found the Drukari did find out who the employer was, but kept it a secret for an unknown reason.

@Ajehy

4 жыл бұрын

zaczane ... I wouldn’t put it past the Drukhari to mess with the memory centers of the assassin’s mind, so he literally couldn’t remember who his employer was. I’m

@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts

4 жыл бұрын

There are various psychic techniques that can erase memories from the mind. He may have known that he was hired, but who hired him could have been riped from his head.

@SaintJimmy379

3 жыл бұрын

I can't dispute this fact...

seriously, he's the emperor of the entire human race in a interstellar empire, that is also grim dark as fuck. if they don't have an assasin of the month portrait wall i would be surprised.

The Answer is simple... it was you, Remliez! And this video is purely an attempt to throw the suspicion off of you.

@mercenarygundam1487

6 жыл бұрын

Inquisitor Thomas You yourself seems pretty suspect yourself Inquisitor. Who is to say it was YOU after all

@internetzenmaster8952

6 жыл бұрын

*"You thought it was Remliez, but it was me, DIO!"*

@Matt-md5yt

6 жыл бұрын

Inquisitor on what Grounds do you have to claim these rumors?

@parkermaisterra8532

6 жыл бұрын

Oh please why would an Inquisitor want the master of mankind killed? It's illogical.

@DaimoHope

6 жыл бұрын

Throwing accusation at a Lord Inquisitor. A dangerous game. Tzeentch approves of such a gambit

This kind of brutality, this kind of cunning...it could only be the brutally cunning Mork who is behind this! And the Drukhari were simply too intimidated by the thought of his cunning brutality to speak his Orky name!

@Abdega

6 жыл бұрын

But what about Gork? Striking down the leader of humanity so there will be plenty of infighting that they can jump in and join in at any time? That’s cunningly brutal!

@DISTurbedwaffle918

6 жыл бұрын

Abdega nah, Gork isn't brutally cunning enough for this, he's too cunningly brutal

@internetzenmaster8952

6 жыл бұрын

Mork probably made a bet with the Emperor that he'd figure out a way to kill his physical body and hired a Drukhari to do it. After all, Big E would never expect an Ork god to use a panzee to do his dirty work!

@informationyes

6 жыл бұрын

orcs dont get other to do the killing for them

@Plankensen

6 жыл бұрын

That's why it's so cunning Daniel.

The Inquisition. NOBODY EXPECTS THE IMPERIAL INQUISITION!!

@theinquisition9390

6 жыл бұрын

AJ Jones sir I would like to talk to you

@captainthorrek262

6 жыл бұрын

Well, Emps is already at the mercy of The Comfy Chair. Did they search The Blade for any soft cushions?

@user-iy7ju3vf9n

4 жыл бұрын

Of course. It is know that Emperor defying gods, which means Emperor defying God-Emperor, which means he is a heretic and must be destroyed. Hydra dominatus

@golgotretze

4 жыл бұрын

Our chief weapon is surprise... surprise and fear... fear and surprise... our two weapons are fear and surprise... and ruthless efficiency... Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Emperor... and lots of skulls.

But that would mean going toe to toe with the Custodes .aka one of the stupidest thing to do in 40k

Maybe the "Blade of Ptesh" was send to fail, rather then succeed? It could be a way to get rid of a assasin, before he is used against you. It could be a way to send a message (we will totally try). It could be a way to maintain the custodes vigilance (yes, people will try - so do not slack off just because nothing happened for 10k years!).

I’m leaning towards an Imperial hiring them. It would explain their entry onto Terra if a High Lord said “ignore the Eldar shaped package in the corner pls”

@user-yq3fz9ch5q

Жыл бұрын

Or the inquisition sect that thinks if Big E dies, the Star child will go into him and resurrect🤷‍♂️

Considering what I understand of the Emperor's personality and insistence on unquestioning obedience, the question may be "who *didn't* order the Emperor's assassination?"

Alternate Theory: The blade of Ptesh was hired... by the Emperor of mankind himself. As a perpetual, his death would allow him to regain his full capabilities and rebuild the Imperium, rising from the ashes like an Iron Phoenix. If the Emperor promised to save the Aeldar race in exchange for his death, how many Aeldari would die a thousand deaths for a chance of success? It explains both his presence on Sacred Terra and his devotion.

@DaimoHope

6 жыл бұрын

Venser's Prodigy I was pondering that myself

@Abdega

6 жыл бұрын

Hire a hitman for him to die and come back stronger… Did the Emperor pull a Goku for a Zenkai boost?!

@deecee796

6 жыл бұрын

Why couldnt he just communicate this to guilliman or any number of imperial servants on terra?

@codyarcher3263

6 жыл бұрын

Dylan Charles they would probably think tzeench is talking to them

@joshbunton6424

6 жыл бұрын

we had the same conclusion

Asdrubael Vect isn't that stupid if drukhari assassin managed to kill the emperor every single loyalist chapter would come knocking on the doors of Commorragh my brothers first amongst them and even possibly Abaddon for spoiling his fun

@zaczane

6 жыл бұрын

Black Templar Chaplain but they wouldn’t have Warp Travel...so checkmate

@BlackTemplarChaplain

6 жыл бұрын

zaczane even so let just one-third of chapters find "willing" eldar to open them a webway portal and don't forget Vulkan lives and he knows how to open a portal and navigate webway

@zaczane

6 жыл бұрын

okay...so maybe just check then...damn

@guy_autordie

3 жыл бұрын

Some Loyalist Space Marine: "Abaddon?!?! What's the fuck are you doing here?!" Abaddon: "Brother, THEY SPOIL ALL THE FUN!"

" Maybe it was the Guilliman "- said sarcastically

@zaczane

6 жыл бұрын

Sanginius on vacation or not perhaps... not sarcastically. Hmm? bet you didn’t think of that one huh?

@SC-ce3vp

4 жыл бұрын

Sanguinius is dio change my mind

@thegradyfiles3272

3 жыл бұрын

No it’s the Spanish Inquisition.

The auto-subs are brilliant: Roboute Gulliman became reboot a killer man

@AnimeSunglasses

5 жыл бұрын

How does even an algorithm mix up Gulliman with Ferrus Manus? Clearly someone has not been performing the Rites of Maintenance properly! Have you triple-checked you are using the correct Oil of Sanctifying Lubrication? ...what do you mean I'm missing the point?

I doubt it was Big E himself. Granted He's a perpetual but He's well aware of these facts: without Him on the chair the Astronomicon wouldn't shine and Terra would get eaten by an Eye of Terror 2.0, both events quite terrible even when taken separately. The former could have been dealt with, after all it was possible to travel before Big E switched on the bloody thing, but you can't exactly travel when a massive portion of the material universe gets thrown into the Immaterium (especially when said portion of the material universe is the Segmentum Solar or part of it). Besides there's the Terminus decree all comfy in a box in Titan and I suspect the Custodes are fully aware of that piece of paper, moreover He could have just asked the Companions to do the job

I guise the issue with the last theory is that if the Imperium found out that the Eldar tried to kill their god, even if to fulfil the prophecy, it might destory whatever relationship that they had and bring total war

@bracusgaming6761

6 жыл бұрын

Sounds very 40k to me

@Gormathius

3 жыл бұрын

What a premise to start Total War: Warhammer 40,000 with.

Its probably the Thorians mentioned in the Custodes codex

Tfw you are genuinely concerned the Emperor might have actually been killed. I'M IN TOO DEEP BOYS.

@jacksonbowns1087

6 жыл бұрын

Pull out! Pull out now!

@gabrielm.942

5 жыл бұрын

Me Alexander no they aren’t, his back was broken, his plucked out, armed ripped off, so on so for because he didn’t want to harm his golden boy. Horus’s physic attack’s has little effect and were matched by the Emperors it was the tremendous physical wounds he sustained that brought him down. Physic ones would have kept him down and Horus would have won.

@gabrielm.942

5 жыл бұрын

His eye plucked out*

@AAhmou

4 жыл бұрын

Gabriel M. Well... There is the psychic erosion of the astronomican.

Here's a theory: The Adeptus Mechanicus is now sending people across the galaxy to look for blackstone. Why? With it, they could essentially build crude versions of the Cadian pylons on Terra itself. With the pylons in place, they could let the emperor die. The potential warp rift would be suppressed or held in place. Bring on the assassins. Providing they beef up the defenses throughout the galaxy and strategically place some of the returning Primarchs where they are most needed, the Imperium could hopefully handle a few decades (!) without warp travel while waiting for the emperor to return.

@markr9293

6 жыл бұрын

Carl Nordell if they cut the Emperor off from the warp pre death he won't resurrect as he'll be cut off from the warp. The pylons would need to activate after the Emperor's soul has entered the warp fully.

@kishinasura1504

5 жыл бұрын

That's a surprisingly good idea so there's no way the mechanicum or anyone could come up with it.

@marvelousdex9678

5 жыл бұрын

@@kishinasura1504 *There's no way GW could come up with it.

Pet theory: Emps and Ynnead are both the star child, when Emps finally kicks it, his soul will merge with the Nascent Ynnead to create a super-god if you will.

@retroagent5844

4 жыл бұрын

You watch too much tts

@Aceshot-uu7yx

Жыл бұрын

I mean given how humanity had their existence kick started by the old ones. The star child could be the combination of the old ones' creations, ynnead is believed to be a collective of the dead gods and the emperor has the total faith of humanity. Gork and Mork don't count in this regard but they could get added. The star child may be the sum total of the old ones' creations, faith and hatred towards chaos.

It was the Alpha Legion. They hired the Blade of Ptesh as a distraction while Alpharius disguised as a Custodian replaced the Emperor with the corpse of Horus Lupercal which they had secretly recovered previously. Or is that just what they want you to think?

@bouncyrou1312

5 жыл бұрын

silly you, the Blade of Ptesh, all the Custodes, the Emperor, and Horus were all Alpharius.

3 words: Just As Planned....

Unrelated theory: Could Blackstone be used to seal the warp rift on Terra and restart the Terran Webway Project (incidentally removing one of the major reasons for maintaining the operation of the Golden Throne and allowing the Emperor to regenerate)?

@markr9293

6 жыл бұрын

legionaireb if they activate pylons before Emperor dies his soul would be prevented from entering the warp. So he could not come back. The activation order would need to be times to the nano second.

@AnimeSunglasses

5 жыл бұрын

But that's techo-here...! wait... ...um... [checks notes. checks other notes. disappears into Catacombs of Mars for 18.71244 hours. checks more notes. remembers to check cheat sheets tattooed under eyelids. checks notes micro-engraved on underside of desk. checks first notes again. takes apart servo-skull, reassembles it, and runs 3.906 kilometers of magnetic tape and 20.81 kilometers of punch cards through it. checks eyelids again. re-checks first four sets of notes.] [rockets up to ceiling (12 meters above), flips over, magnetically clamps feet to ceiling, searches top row of shelves, finds book, drops to floor, repeats. Gathers all notes.] [attaches small rocket booster to servo-skull and sends it to Magos Remleiz' office] [Runs out of office as fast as augmetics can carry me, yelling] CAWL! CAAAAWWWWL! LOOK AT THIS!

@inthefade

Жыл бұрын

Imagine the political nightmare of installing xenos technology on Terra.

@legionaireb

Жыл бұрын

@@inthefade Considering how long the Mechanicum has been studying Blackstone, that's not much of an issue.

Great video!

I just finished The Carrion Throne and it sounds like one of the theories you went over. I won't say which for those of you that haven't had the chance to read it yet

@jamesgordley5000

6 жыл бұрын

I just finished that book yesterday. The book's ending actually revealed surprisingly little info on what the real extent of the plan was. You wouldn't happen to know of any literature or sources out there that might shed any more light on this bit of lore, would you?

@MiddleAgedGuy73

6 жыл бұрын

James Gordley I'm reading Lucius The Faultless Blade at the moment but I believe it hints at some of what's behind the plot. I'm in the Bay Area and if you're ever out my way we could probably talk for hours about all the different theories we've come up with.

The night lords. They could concivably have the general floorplan for the emperors palace. Moreover it would be extreamly fitting (in that vindictively satirical & untra-violent Curze fashion) to send an assassin after a target who could see it coming but cant/wont alter the course of events... "Death is nothing compared to vindication"

@crackedhammer4612

5 жыл бұрын

RIP THAC0 AVE DOMINUS NOX brother

When the real question would be, how would one even kill the emperor if even some custodians cant physically enter the throneroom

@LCDqBqA

6 жыл бұрын

bagrym Webway

@bagrym

6 жыл бұрын

Ollie Barbor that would be a way into the palace but as it is described in, i think the book watchers of the throne, there is somekind of psychic power emanating from the innermost sanctum not many custodians can enter. I would question if a drukhari can accomplish that

@LCDqBqA

6 жыл бұрын

I don't remember the literature but it's inferred the Dark Eldar have access. I think you do not give the Dark Eldar credit for the capabilities, in a lot of way they're an even more advanced race than Eldar, they have found a way to cheat death. Also look up the "Dark bargain" the Cult Mechanicus struck with Commorragh.

@mrmora1673

3 жыл бұрын

The golden throne extends far beyond the confines of the emperors throne room, blowing up or destroying some of the mechanisms would do the job

@Aceshot-uu7yx

Жыл бұрын

Double tap 50 cal., It kills everything.

''Who tried to assassinate the Emperor'' takashi69: I KNOW

Emps himself did, projecting his psychic might through the Immaterium to finally get Lloyd off the Golden Throne, the resulting galaxy wide havoc would allow him to break free of the grasp of Trayzn the Infinite and basically get an effective roll-back of the Imperium to before the Primarch Project for a second attempt.

It. Was. Kitten.

@kingfranpetty

5 жыл бұрын

*saws plot twist music plays in the background as the horror slowly sets in*

@dagunner5814

5 жыл бұрын

OMG not Kitten

@kingfranpetty

5 жыл бұрын

@@dagunner5814 Someone felt the horror.

@BrotherGS

4 жыл бұрын

Are you accusing the Captain General of treachery?! HERESY

@shawneti7893

3 жыл бұрын

Just. As. Planned

"your companions will have a pleasing high time chasing you around"

Alpharius?

@palikaloz

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, obviously. How could Remleiz forget this option? Petition to add to EVERY video a section about Alpharius doing the thing!

@thenutella8846

6 жыл бұрын

DJ Párizsiskenyér I'm already on it.

@MrRigmunkee1

5 жыл бұрын

First person I thought of. Its obvious.

@user-iy7ju3vf9n

4 жыл бұрын

But why would Alpharius hire Alpharius to kill Alpharius?

My picks for the assassination 1) The Emperor 2) various Eldar groups 3) Cypher 4) the Highlords of Terra 5) The Inquisition

Couldn't the assassins have been hired by the C'tan of deception, who we know is alive? Just a thought, don't know what his motivations would be.

1:26 whenever i see this picture i expect the emperor to start complaining about something to his caretaker using his text to speach device

It was....Malal. Many wont expect the forgoten one. Failing that it was a cunning plan devised by non other than Black Adder.

@bouncyrou1312

5 жыл бұрын

Baldrick had a cunning plan

Wasn't me🎶 Caught me Orderin that assassin 🎶 Wasn't me 🎶

@highlandoutsider8148

6 жыл бұрын

the custodian caught me red handed, sneakin up to the throne room door it wasnt me

@AnikaJarlsdottr

5 жыл бұрын

Genuinely just let out the most unladylike snort as I read this and all its comments XD

@AnikaJarlsdottr

5 жыл бұрын

Bloody Brilliant, good show XD

@speedracer2please

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, not too Shaggy!

This particular video keeps popping up on my feed, and every time I see it, the title makes me think of a waiter passing out orders. That said, love your channel.

Good, but for all we know it could have been the Adeptus Mechanicus, maybe an Adeptus who was unceremoniously tossed out of the palace... That certain Adeptus seems to have access to the webway using a Xenos ship, has been to and left Commoragh, and has knowledge about the imperial palace that an assassin might find useful, not looking good “random Mechanicus guy.”

Fucking Horus.

Blade was actually just running from Sly Marbo and wanted an absolute way to die.

You forgot one major shadow player in the Star Child theory. The Cabal.

Seems pretty moronic for them to kill them without discovering who they were sent by...

Best bets, the Drukhari was simply *lying*, and doing this to divert slaanesh just a bit to Terra and the Imperium. Or given how *insanely stupidly corrupt and arrogant* the high lords are regarding Robute's return, they'd do this.

I like the new background music :)

The Blade of Ptesh was Alpharius as was the Custodian who caught him and so is The Golden Throne the Emporer is sat on

It was the Emperor himself. Seeing the Custodes dance around half naked finally did him in...

What if.. the person who paid to have the Emperor killed.. was THE EMPEROR.

@lemanruss.107

6 жыл бұрын

AlhazredTheMad plot twist

The day the Emperor returns will be the end of the enemies of mankind

It's Abbadon. he's tired of making all these big, complicated, and time consuming black crusades that never work. "Fuck it" He thinks, "Let's just hire a xeno to do it and cause that warp rift everybodies talking about. It's waaaaaaay easier."

I hope we find answers soon, I should go visit my Assassin contacts for help and supplies.. I did some Mercenary work for one of the Temples, a Vindicare gave me some ammo to improve my rifle with.

Clearly it was the Emperor himself who arranged his own assassination.

@thegradyfiles3272

3 жыл бұрын

HERESY WHERE IS THE OMEGA INQUISITION.

Probably the emperor himself seeking to find an excuse to be reborn.

Maybe it would be the ironic twist of Konrad Curze ordering the assassination.

My list of Primary suspects: Erebus (Wouldn't be his first attempt!), Tzeentch (probably by proxy), Omegon (it's his style), and just maybe Eldrad Ulthran. Abaddon's off the list, he'd want to do it himself. Orks? LOL! Tau? The idea of a Tau intimidating a Drukhari may just be the funniest thing ever. The High Lords? Possible, but very unlikely. Inquisition? The Malleus agents do tend to go off the deep end with alarming regularity, but it would have to be one helluva Inquisitor to convince the Blade of Ptesh to hold their tongue, the kind that even Eisenhorn wouldn't tangle with. Other than that, no idea.

@kishinasura1504

5 жыл бұрын

Eldrad wouldn't do anything that might strengthen chaos. Never. Unless of course he is absolutely certain that killing emps would finish chaos for good or at least turn the tides, but no. I would slash the dick out of the list.

A member of the mechanicus who know the truth about the Omnissiah

When is the new Warhammer book coming out? Or has the series ended?

What of the cabal? That group of powerful xenos cant dissapear like that, i bet they are still out there, probably plotting to minimalize the damage/prevent the end times caused by emperor not losing utterly during horus heresy.

Matt Ward sent the assassin, knowing it would further fuck-up the cannon of the W40k universe.

My guess is that the hit was orchestrated by the chaos god known as the Emperor. After the body is killed, the chaos Emperor would reveal himself to the grieving adeptus custodes and tell them that he has returned to them after his 10,000 year nap. Now openly worshiped as a true God, his following would increase dramatically, gaining him the power to overthrow the other gods. Assuming that such an entity even exists in the warp. However, 10k years of belief in the "real" emperor may have caused such a warp entity to be born.

the person that has the most to gain from the Emperor's death is the Emperor, if he dies he would finally be able to get back up and start fixing things.

Maybe 'Kitten' asked the assassin to kill the emperor as he was fed up with his job?

What if it's the Emperor trying to rebirth and escape the Golden Throne? Tying back to your video on Abbadon

But nobody suspects Robute Gulliman. What an excellent plan!

We are reaching levels of Heresy not previously thought possible!!

In what book did this event happen?

@GurrenLagann98

6 жыл бұрын

Evendur13, Custodes Codex.

@caos1925

6 жыл бұрын

Codex: Adeptus Custodes (8th Edition) pg 31, I was curious too, and man was that hard to track down. Following little blurb after little blurb, and name after name. Here's the full quote "Blood Will Tell Leotydus Dat-Hastael runs a successful Blood Game, spending over a decade in hiding, evading every ward and sentry to finally reach the Sanctum Imperialis with blade in hand. Precautions are put in place to seal off his route of ingress, just in time to catch the elite Drukhari killer known as the Blade of Ptesh as he attempts the very same route as Dat-Hastael in his efforts to slay the Emperor on behalf of a mysterious and exceptionally persuasive patron. The Blade’s ambitions, and indeed his life, meet a merciless end, though he refuses to the end to give up the identity of the one who sent him." Took place sometime between M33-39 BTW Rem, this date makes the theories involving the Drucari knowing the Golden Throne is failing and Ynead fasle.

@exactinmidget92

6 жыл бұрын

I cant remember the name but its one of the first Heresy books. Might be Legion or First Heretic.

@Eonfixx

6 жыл бұрын

not legion, for sure, nor any HH book,

@40KTheories

6 жыл бұрын

Adam Case ah you're right about those two particular facts, I apologise. But in fairness in regards to the Ynnead thing, it isn't completely debunked due to the exodite stone tablet depicting the 'star-child' which could also be Ynnead (being on an Aeldari artefact after all) so that could mean that prior to the Ynnari there could have been a similar organisation that preceded it but simply never grew anywhere near as powerful. None-the-less, I pinned an addendum at the top of the comments section

It was me. Bastard ate the last crescent roll.

@AnimeSunglasses

5 жыл бұрын

HERES... well, honestly understandable. ... ...still heresy.

Maybe it was the Emperor himself who put out the hit? In order to die and resurrect properly? His psychic might could have shielded the assassin from detection most of the way into the palace.

No one is even going to mention that perhaps a Necron overlord hired the assasin? If another eye on terror opens up on Terra, that might as well be the end of humanity, and that would also be a slow starving death for the Chaos Gods. It's a win-win for a bunch of metal skeletons that can wait for other million years no problem.

I think it was the Ynnari. They are made up of Eldar from all factions so the Blade of Tesh could have refused to betray them because they were part of this new order and they viewed themselves as Ynnari as oppose to Drukharri so they acted selflessly

OK, I say it here and now: "I didnt expect the spanish inquisition here."

@godemperorofmankind7255

6 жыл бұрын

Nobody suspects the Spanish Inquisition!!

Any theories on John Grammaticus' first death?

what if it was Big E putting a hit on himself, perhaps in a moment of weakness he just wanted to end the pain :,(

Emperor protects, and so does his custodes.

I believe it was a chaos champion (such as abbadon or a daemon prince) I mean think of it out of all the factions they would have the most to gain for when he dies the galaxy pretty much dies with it

#40K Theories, I have worked in nursing homes as a nurses aid. I have personally witnessed elder people that still had a good mind, ask to die do to there ever failing health. One woman told me that she had out lived all of her children and most of her friends. Her health was on a slow and painful terminal spiral that would/did only grant her release when she passed away. She was in constant pain both mentally and physically. Given this experience, I put forth that our Glorious God Emperor of Mankind hired the assassin to kill him, because he knows that no human would even think about the idea. Supporting Facts: The Emperor is in unfathomable grinding and constant pain. His mind has been shattered, yet he must still keep the Astronomican working at full tilt. That is like telling your over 40,000 year old father that he must run a marathon even though he just had to kill his favored son, and has two broke legs with multiple fractures. Not only does he do it, but he wins the marathon. That is how much the Emperor loves us all. He has been hooked to the golden throne, a devise forcing his dying body to stay alive. He knows every time a hero of the Imperium of Man dies. Half of his sons have betrayed him. Most of the ones that have not betrayed him are missing or dead as well. The man deserves a rest, and if he is in that much pain both mental and physical. Then the only humane thing to do is allow him to pass away.

Not Joking, Alpharious due to his ties to zenos races through the Kabal

@zaczane

6 жыл бұрын

Sidney McGhee every time I hear someone say it was Alpharius I think, Damn that would be extremely difficult to pull off that kind of espionage, which honestly only makes me want it to be confirmed to be alpharius

wasn't the Star Child theory obsolete since the anouncement of the 8th Edition?

Maybe it was a new tentative from the Cabal

I heard there was heresy and I got here as fast as I could.

It could be a survivors of the Cabal, or Cegorach, hiring a assassins by using Lady Malys.

Plot twist: A lazy &/or absentminded Custodes mistakenly thought it was his turn to do the Blood Games, but thought it’d be easier for him (& more entertaining) if the “mock assassination attempt” was done by someone else, namely, an actual assassin.

What about the Alpha Legion? I mean who knows considering that they employ covert and unconventional warfare(infiltration, sabotage and assasination plus they also employ non astartes operatives into there ranks makes them very good in Black ops) and they maybe know the whole nature of the Emperor's status in the throne(Their allegiance along with there Primarch were actually loyal to one other than the Emperor himself) maybe they are trying to free Emps to his suffering and starts his Resurrection into becoming a Godly being(A Chaos God of Order, Reason, Logic and Skeptisism)

I'm sorry for being late to the discussion but how would a human pay a Drukarii? I mean what currency would they use?

Why wouldn't the Blade of Ptesh reveal who hired him if he was going to die regardless? I think it means the Blade was doing (or working for) something he believed in, not just material gain.

Or... or... or... the assassin was sent by the Custodes themselves to further test the defensive capabilities of the Imperial Palace. Bam!

The High lord angle only works if this was before Gulliman's revival and subsequent shake up of Imperial Political Structure.

If he dies, he will be reborn but will take time while Chaos floods in

The Emperor ordered it. He repaired the warp rift long ago, but was unable to communicate with his people well enough to get them to release him from the throne and let him regenerate naturally. So he used his psychic power in the Warp to send a message to the assassin and commission his own assassination. His psychic power has entirely departed now, becoming the Chaos God of Order; all that remains is for his body to be released from the Throne, regenerate, and create the Primaris marines to continue the fight.

What if it was abadon ? Maybe getting desperate after all his failures

I blame the Surat named Matt Ward as this was clearly an attempt to start the 40k end times early, Quiaff?

Imagine the look on his face when he looked behind him and found a custodian >:D

Can anyone tell me which book this is from? Help!

a planetary governor would not have the cash to , resources , or power to hire an assassin to kill the emperor . it would have to be someone in charge of a sector or higher .

I can imagine the Tau paying someone to assassinate the Emperor. Because they would benefit the most from the Emperor’s death: humanity would have lost its main source of space travel, they would also be demoralised and isolated from the Imperium, which would make it easier to take large portions of the Imperium of Man with little consequences.

@jacobs4545

6 жыл бұрын

John the Crazed idk about that. If that info never got out, great. If it did, all of a sudden even 25% of the imperium's total military might going on a suicidal charge against the tau would leave a blue smear on the highway lol

@johnthecrazed5679

6 жыл бұрын

But those suicidal soldiers would have no way of getting to the Tau empire with out the astronomican.

@kishinasura1504

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, and that would leave the Tau alone fighting against Tyrannids, orks and Necrons....