The Shattered Soul Of Horus Lupercal - 40K Theories

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The Warmaster’s soul was said to have been erased from existence following his final confrontation with the Emperor, but are there in fact any surviving shards of his soul that somehow still exist?
Apologies for my voice going a little weak at times, I recorded this while I had the flu.
Featuring the voice talents of:
Stephanie Swan Quills as Amarok
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Naerina as Gyre
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And Stellar Elite as Abaddon
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  • @40KTheories
    @40KTheories5 жыл бұрын

    Apologies for my voice going a little weak at times during this video, for I recorded this while I had the flu.

  • @markusnavergard2387

    @markusnavergard2387

    5 жыл бұрын

    Its a blessing of father Nurgle

  • @morgrimgaming7342

    @morgrimgaming7342

    5 жыл бұрын

    Here is a theory for you: Can abhumans become recruits for Space Marines?

  • @JacatackLP

    @JacatackLP

    5 жыл бұрын

    40K Theories ‘tis the season, cheers m8 thanks for the great content as always

  • @l33t9r0u93

    @l33t9r0u93

    5 жыл бұрын

    it's barely noticeable so kudos and get better

  • @MrGrim2u1987

    @MrGrim2u1987

    5 жыл бұрын

    You mean the common cold? If you did this video with the Flu you must be superhuman.

  • @a.gravemistake3061
    @a.gravemistake30615 жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to be grounded so hard that your soul explodes? The answer is yes; if your dad is the Emperor.

  • @brotheralaric7177

    @brotheralaric7177

    5 жыл бұрын

    Big E " You are grounded for eternity,son" *Blam, psychic Blast* Horus " NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

  • @CharlesUrban
    @CharlesUrban5 жыл бұрын

    So the Emperor blasted Horus's soul into tiny pieces, and now multiple Horuses are around that might have the ability to possess people. ...God damn it, it's Agent Smith all over again. Somebody get Guilliman a trenchcoat and some cool sunglasses.

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's more like the Chaos Gods blew him into pieces first, kept some of him in the work and The Emperor destroyed the rest

  • @xenon3990

    @xenon3990

    5 жыл бұрын

    40K Theories mister Guilliman...we meet again I see.

  • @horuslupercal2785

    @horuslupercal2785

    5 жыл бұрын

    Now I can burn the Galaxy multiple times over

  • @jacobfreeman5444

    @jacobfreeman5444

    5 жыл бұрын

    This assumes that there was very much of Horus left after they were done with him. I wonder if it wasn't only the smallest bit that made it out. Which might explain why he was such a trifle to them. The important bits were already extracted and the body was little more than a protein robot performing its role. It may be that the remains of Horus will play some future roll in the fate of the galaxy.

  • @stephenrego6065

    @stephenrego6065

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nah, like the demon-thing said, Horus can never come back. Hes too busy fighting for Khorne, and doing butt stuff with Slanesh at the same damn time.

  • @Neko_Medic
    @Neko_Medic5 жыл бұрын

    abbadon: they name my father for his failures. HA! THE IRONY IS SO SWEET.

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ow. Oh sweet cruel irony. That must hurt.

  • @daswordofgork9823

    @daswordofgork9823

    5 жыл бұрын

    Funny how failbbadon the armless fails at EVERY SINGLE THING THAT HE DOES!

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@daswordofgork9823 *plays small string musical instrument for tragic and dramatic effect in the background*

  • @sethrhodes7107

    @sethrhodes7107

    5 жыл бұрын

    Like father, like son

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sethrhodes7107 Know despair Abandoned the failed, taste it's ironic cold sweets. Hate it or be pleased, laugh in chaotic desperation. Because truly this is the blessing of the gods upon you.

  • @zerlichr426
    @zerlichr4264 жыл бұрын

    10:25 "I PUCHED OUT ONE OF HIS HEARTHS, WHY NOBODY DOES REMEMBER THAT?!"

  • @commanderfarsight2351
    @commanderfarsight23515 жыл бұрын

    Your dedication to us even during time of illness is unfathomable. Thank you, Sir.

  • @barrybend7189

    @barrybend7189

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cammander Farsight........ You're battlesuits are trash.

  • @commanderfarsight2351

    @commanderfarsight2351

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@barrybend7189 tell that to my face

  • @iainhansen1047

    @iainhansen1047

    5 жыл бұрын

    Commander Farsight he is obviously *blessed* by Nurgle.

  • @Nebula_Ultra

    @Nebula_Ultra

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kiss ass much?

  • @Ajehy

    @Ajehy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nebula Ultra - more like kickass

  • @professorsponge1554
    @professorsponge15545 жыл бұрын

    Horus could return if the gods merged these soul fragments together. but this would only happen if the gods grew tired of Abbadon refusing their offers and wanted a puppet, or a target to spur abbadon to action.

  • @jamesbuckner4791

    @jamesbuckner4791

    5 жыл бұрын

    @goff0103 he used to guilliman went in to have a word with his father and got the impression that he was no longer viewed even as a commander to the emperor more as a tool

  • @VioletEverlasting

    @VioletEverlasting

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesbuckner4791 Its only a fragment of myself the soul still on the throne is broken I will need to merge my souls to fuse into only one so i can finnally return kick chaos ass

  • @seand.g423

    @seand.g423

    5 жыл бұрын

    That or if the Smurf of Smurfs somehow actually started to genuinely intimidate them with his "I Am Broken See Me Nerfed' plot armor off...

  • @papanurgle8393

    @papanurgle8393

    5 жыл бұрын

    Horus is pretty much gone, not to mention that he basically begs his Father to end him, there's not much chance he'd come back, at least I hope not.

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@papanurgle8393 I think that is going to be retconned

  • @mercenarygundam1487
    @mercenarygundam14875 жыл бұрын

    If that's the case, Fragments of the Emperor and Horus, doing Father and Son bonding/fixing in TTS should be a thing.

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy by this that I'm going to cry.

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    @goff0103 Well, if he leaves the yellow shiny chair then the planet gets sent to the super warp. Which is bad. Just gotta find a way to keep that from happening and walk amongst the not skeletons.

  • @barrybend7189

    @barrybend7189

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kingfranpetty Magnus the red.

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@barrybend7189 Now you're cooking with portals! After all, who's better for the job? Who does the big E blame? Who was handed a redemption and threw it to ride the warp with Sunflower? You already answered, I see.

  • @barrybend7189

    @barrybend7189

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kingfranpetty also I think the golden throne also has Netflix.

  • @WhiteManOnCampus
    @WhiteManOnCampus5 жыл бұрын

    "A being known as 'The Anus'-" *Double-Take* Oh, just British pronunciation of Ianus. Gotcha.

  • @Gillymonster18
    @Gillymonster185 жыл бұрын

    Spooky stuff. For someone who doesn’t have access to the books or lore this stuff feeds my 40 addiction like crazy!

  • @hunterskidmore1672

    @hunterskidmore1672

    5 жыл бұрын

    Try arch warhammer for even more lore

  • @rorytolmie6504

    @rorytolmie6504

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@hunterskidmore1672 Yeah, suggest the Antisemitism king, brilliant.

  • @Sigismund697

    @Sigismund697

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dude lexicanum is right there

  • @tommywilliams2760

    @tommywilliams2760

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rorytolmie6504 you poor stupid person.

  • @muzanjackson8827

    @muzanjackson8827

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you want, I can show you where to gets a few dozen warhammer books online for free

  • @MrKago1
    @MrKago15 жыл бұрын

    Its important to remember that the Cabal told a human that prophesy. They may have seen another possibility where humanity survives but the Eldar or Dark Eldar do not. They would not tell a human anything about that.

  • @gruffen4

    @gruffen4

    5 жыл бұрын

    honestly, the Eldar probably aren't going to survive anyways (outside of GW not wanting to get rid of a model line anyways). they're too far fucked ( not to mention, if you can't make a comeback in a good 10-15k years, you're both not trying hard enough and don't deserve to)

  • @MrKago1

    @MrKago1

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@gruffen4 agreed, especially if they have access to the near magical tech that the Eldar have and effective immortality with spirit stones. Eldar are spent. The only good they could do the galaxy is if Isha merged with Ynnead and took out Slaanesh. And ressed Emps, because honestly, humans are the only viable race left. Tyranids are mindlesd, Orks are barely above that, Necron are as extinct as Eldar, and Tau are a second robot apocalypse in the making.

  • @bmaster9633

    @bmaster9633

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrKago1 necrons are actually beggining to awake and silent king is back

  • @poodlescone9700
    @poodlescone97005 жыл бұрын

    A primarch soul shard, you say? It sounds lovely in my collection. I just have to have it. Trazyn

  • @Sirscruggz
    @Sirscruggz5 жыл бұрын

    Jesus, whoever voiced Gyre did their job in freaking out people

  • @AnimeSunglasses
    @AnimeSunglasses5 жыл бұрын

    "...out of spite, or perhaps some scientific curiosity..."

  • @ceasarspartacus
    @ceasarspartacus5 жыл бұрын

    I think it's funny, that after all these centuries, the leader of the traitor legions is still called "Warmaster," the title given by the emperor

  • @gruffen4

    @gruffen4

    5 жыл бұрын

    in truth, Abbadon (at least) just doesn't like the emperor himself, he's fine with humanity and his motivation for the black crusades are to test humanity's strength iirc

  • @Duppyman695

    @Duppyman695

    3 жыл бұрын

    Self proclaimed..... WarMaster......... or The Despoiler......... or The Abandoned One

  • @ZKtheMAN
    @ZKtheMAN5 жыл бұрын

    Adeptus Notificatus, *_REPRESENT._* Naerina did a great job as Gyre. What a striking voice to hear.

  • @ReaperofValhalla

    @ReaperofValhalla

    5 жыл бұрын

    ZKtheMAN that voice acting was terrifying

  • @AnimeSunglasses

    @AnimeSunglasses

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @KingLich451

    @KingLich451

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, seriously.

  • @404BYTE
    @404BYTE5 жыл бұрын

    Horus was made to fail? Does this mean Abby is basically a super Horus?

  • @garrettkiley522

    @garrettkiley522

    5 жыл бұрын

    404BYTE Kind of but remember chaos always will fail it self because it fights itself. That's part of the reason why he does not join in on any of that because he will doomed to fail.

  • @ravenstrategist1325

    @ravenstrategist1325

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@garrettkiley522 Well, Abby is winning and he has been winning for a long time. The Long war,slowly destroying the imperium.Despite what many think, since they do not remember the lore of the black crusades very well, each black crusade was a devastating success, each one is was the springboard for the next.However now Abby is in trouble since Chaos Primarchs are back and objectively he can only call on the loyaty of the Black legion now.

  • @papanurgle8393

    @papanurgle8393

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thing is that Chaos doesn't want to instantly nom the Galaxy, having a miserable cesspool to feed off of forever more is WAY better, the age of Strife was just that, and Chaos was happy to kick back, relax, and feed patiently and "passively". Abaddon's ironically a far, far, better fit for them than Horus because they've had tens of thousands of years to fully bind the Traitors to their cause. While he and his Legion have enough agency and separation from them to actually DO something, but aren't so rejecting of them (like the Night Lords for example) that they'd lose out on offerings in a Galaxy won by them. It's also likely that if the Astronomicon were to die out, Abaddon would either be forcefully ascended, or knocked off as leader (either killed or simply rejected). In this way 40k's Chaos is WAY more insidious and backstabbing than Fantasy's/AOS, which I'm totally on board for. While he has no love for them, he and his own are now inseparably linked. This wasn't the case in the Horus Heresy, where a crowned Horus would have likely thrown off the shackles of servitude to the Gods and basically just run the Imperium his way, on his, bloody, terms, something Abby could never do now.

  • @absolute-focus

    @absolute-focus

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ravenstrategist1325 if you read Lords Of Silence it drops hints that a lot of the marines of the other Legions would rather follow Abaddon than there own Primarchs.

  • @Kh0rne8
    @Kh0rne85 жыл бұрын

    Guess who'll be back , back again ...

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    Do you really what to come bac, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Especially considering my ♥~implied meanings?~♥

  • @Tarumarugan

    @Tarumarugan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well if it ain’t the warmaster himself.

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Tarumarugan When wouldn't be? Oh wait! ;)

  • @lioneljonson8556

    @lioneljonson8556

    5 жыл бұрын

    King Fran Petty what the...

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lioneljonson8556 Are you here to disappoint me again or will you finally nut up, Sleeping Beauty?

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt5 жыл бұрын

    I also wondered about this topic, thanks inquisitor.

  • @mattward4916

    @mattward4916

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello fellow Matt

  • @theinquisition9390

    @theinquisition9390

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hello sirs

  • @Matt-md5yt

    @Matt-md5yt

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@theinquisition9390 I worked with you guys before when I was still a Guardsman

  • @theinquisition9390

    @theinquisition9390

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Matt-md5yt really what ordo

  • @Matt-md5yt

    @Matt-md5yt

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@theinquisition9390 xenos

  • @Zefurion1988
    @Zefurion19885 жыл бұрын

    Horus took out the Emperors eye? Did Roal Dorn proof read that post combat report??

  • @murderousmayhem6362

    @murderousmayhem6362

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @IAmAlpharius14

    @IAmAlpharius14

    4 жыл бұрын

    A revelation lead him to it.

  • @MrTurbowhitey
    @MrTurbowhitey5 жыл бұрын

    What about finding the fragments of Horus, and revealing how the God's lied to him? How they set him up to die? Reveal to him the depravity his sons have fallen to, the depths his "Brothers" have sunken to, and how his Father's work has been twisted and deformed into the Imperium we know now? The Fragments of Horus aren't who he became, after his "Trials" were completed.

  • @kennycai8695
    @kennycai86955 жыл бұрын

    Oh gosh, that Abbadon voice is perfect. If that will be his voice in TTS, I look forward to his first appearance in the series.

  • @John-Stark

    @John-Stark

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's gonna be voiced by Takahata101

  • @KingLich451

    @KingLich451

    Жыл бұрын

    ☹️

  • @XenoDogg
    @XenoDogg5 жыл бұрын

    Saw the notification for this while at work, couldn't wait to get home. Love your content

  • @jamesrussels2126
    @jamesrussels21265 жыл бұрын

    Here early. Love your content. Never go away please.

  • @CalculusVariations99

    @CalculusVariations99

    5 жыл бұрын

    His british accent and enunciation are soooooooothing

  • @CalculusVariations99

    @CalculusVariations99

    5 жыл бұрын

    Great pacing too. I listen to those 40 facts guys a lot, but its been years and they still read dead pan, still can't pronounce some simple words, and they're running out of material.

  • @NMahon

    @NMahon

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CalculusVariations99 they're so disappointing, they come up with great titles but the videos are soooo boring and low effort

  • @NemFX
    @NemFX5 жыл бұрын

    I remember talking about the Emperor's injuries years ago at my gaming store, and nobody believed me. Patience is nothing compared to vindication.

  • @sachamarcet
    @sachamarcet5 жыл бұрын

    Good theory, my own pet theory is that the Emperor did not destroy Horus' soul, rather a Chaos-fueled Horus managed to swap his soul at the moment of destruction with none other than Ezekyle Abbadon's soul, he would then play the long game, destroying everything and everyone that would have a change of recognizing him under the guise of erasing the scent of failure. The sacrificial King in this scenario would be Abbaddon's soul in Horus' body. Furthermore, daemons are not reliable, nor are the Imperial records. So who's to say what really transpired in the final hours of the Heresy. ;)

  • @kirkcannon4704
    @kirkcannon47045 жыл бұрын

    So is a shard of horus just constantly having weird slaaneshi sex?

  • @wolfyboy

    @wolfyboy

    5 жыл бұрын

    Slaanesh is not JUST a sex god, but a excessive feelings god. So he MIGHT be having weird slaaneshy sex, or being forced to eat the most delicious foods and drinks possible, until he explodes, or take drugs that are strong beyond human imagination, or tortured, human minds cannot hope to even begin to understand the tiniestbit of the chaos gods.

  • @Nebula_Ultra

    @Nebula_Ultra

    5 жыл бұрын

    In a word yes

  • @thelouster5815

    @thelouster5815

    5 жыл бұрын

    wolfy boy Don’t be ridiculous. All those feelings are nothing compared to an orgasm, and Slaanesh is all about extreme feelings. In other words: Slaanesh=Unapologetic sex addict god.

  • @John-Stark

    @John-Stark

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@wolfyboy All of the above?

  • @wolfyboy

    @wolfyboy

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@John-Stark probably, yes. XD

  • @legionaireb
    @legionaireb5 жыл бұрын

    Are we certain that those images of Horus in the Realm of Chaos are actually soul fragments? They could just as well be Horus at different points along the timeline of his labors for the Chaos Gods. After all, time has no meaning in the Realm of Chaos.

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    5 жыл бұрын

    Considering that Amarok said that he did not return (to the material realm) whole, it would strongly imply it.

  • @azazelberial7166
    @azazelberial71665 жыл бұрын

    Love what you do , keep it coming bro

  • @TheYgds
    @TheYgds2 жыл бұрын

    I could very much see Be'lakor going about claiming the shards of Horus, and use them to empower himself. I am almost sure Be'lakor has plans to ascend to Godhood himself, and this would be a particularly potent way to do it, as claiming the soul of a particularly powerful Primarch should give him a large boost.

  • @Brawlingsilver
    @Brawlingsilver5 жыл бұрын

    These videos chill me out, thanks

  • @goodman4966
    @goodman49665 жыл бұрын

    Have you heard the tragedy of. Horus Lupercal

  • @nohaxmeh576

    @nohaxmeh576

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought not, it's not a story an Imperial would tell you.

  • @brother-venric7181
    @brother-venric71815 жыл бұрын

    Another great video! Thank you!

  • @joshuaAdams3561
    @joshuaAdams35613 жыл бұрын

    Your idea of these fragments of Horus having the possiblity of becoming a demon is an interesting concept. Each god possibly making there own version of Horus and each would possess the traits and personality of Horus. Khorne: His martial prowess and ferocity Tzeentch: His tactical genius and cunning. Nurgle: His death dealing. Slaneesh: His desires and ambitions.

  • @AndrewMcColl
    @AndrewMcColl5 жыл бұрын

    I'm a little disappointed you didn't call them... Horuscruxes ;)

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm not a Harry Potter fan

  • @xenon3990

    @xenon3990

    5 жыл бұрын

    cybogoblin OOOOH SHIT HORUS WAS VOLDEMORT ALL ALONG? I KNEW IT!!!

  • @wolfyboy

    @wolfyboy

    5 жыл бұрын

    I hate you for bringing harry potter into warhammer , but i also love you for the excellent pun.

  • @joshuawittenberg8975

    @joshuawittenberg8975

    5 жыл бұрын

    Get out

  • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
    @Warrior-Of-Virtue5 жыл бұрын

    I could see all four pieces being somehow implanted into Abaddon.

  • @L33TCHI3K3N

    @L33TCHI3K3N

    5 жыл бұрын

    Now thst'd would be cool

  • @namekman01

    @namekman01

    5 жыл бұрын

    or, 4 'horsemen' of the (chaos) apocalypse, created by each chaos god selecting a chaos marine they like, and merging their share of horuses soul into them war for khorne and pestilence for nurgle, obviously. famine for slanesh (bit of a stretch, but referring to how she thirsts for elven souls maybe?), and death (would be a big stretch towards tzeentch, not sure how to make that one make sense) these guys could act as special commanders or something... idk i just like the idea

  • @Warrior-Of-Virtue

    @Warrior-Of-Virtue

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@namekman01 Famine fits Slaanesh perfectly because to serve Slaanseh is to know hunger that can never be satisfied. In Tzeentch's case, you could argue that he represents death because it seems like his "Great Plan" will ultimately end with the death of the universe.

  • @gruffen4

    @gruffen4

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Warrior-Of-Virtue tzeentch can represent death because the only thing that will cause his plan to come to fruition is his death (which he is at least trying to connect to the death of the galaxy/universe)

  • @slyliquid4985

    @slyliquid4985

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@namekman01 I don't that Death for Tzeentch is a big stretch because death is change, a transformation.

  • @thomasmiller2265
    @thomasmiller22655 жыл бұрын

    I love all of these videos !

  • @brotheralaric7177
    @brotheralaric71775 жыл бұрын

    Damned that interpretation of Gyre wwas . . .spooky, Good job.

  • @ReaperofValhalla
    @ReaperofValhalla5 жыл бұрын

    A suggestion for a video: Are there two Emperors? The man-Emperor was the one who lead humanity through the great crusade and helped humanity since his birth while the god-emperor was his warp born entity that was first created when humans started religions after him. Is it also possible that Big E had some form of business or personal relationship with this entity as it must have been one of his few companions throughout his long life and is this entity responsible for the legion of the damn and living saints

  • @elijahkelley7616
    @elijahkelley76163 жыл бұрын

    Remleiz: Perhaps there might be a being within the galaxy who might be willing to attempt such an experiment, either out of spite or simple scientific curiosity. Fabius Bile: *cough*

  • @seppevb1181
    @seppevb11815 жыл бұрын

    this video is one of my favorites - EVER. what if horus would still exist... what if he could come back, if only a part of him. would he be able to unite all the chaos legions? or would he be the one freeing the emperor from the golden throne, out of remorse for what he did? thinking thinking thinking...

  • @Deamon93IT
    @Deamon93IT5 жыл бұрын

    If the Chaos Gods kept them as amusements they might have remained untainted, which opens a lot of possible scenarios. A more tin foily scenario is this: Big E ordered Russ to recover the shards and sent him to the Eye of Terror, with all but one of his most trusted companions (with Bjorn left behind to lead the Space Wolves in his genefather's stead). This could be due to Big E wanting to deprive the Chaos Gods of their amusements or because He has plans for the shards. If this isn't the case there can be a lot of people interested in them (like Trazyn, although I don't know how he would be able to collect them)

  • @jazeroth322
    @jazeroth3225 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Brill theory and as always really well executed!

  • @murderousmayhem6362
    @murderousmayhem63624 жыл бұрын

    This was quality mate

  • @robertfarr9186
    @robertfarr91864 жыл бұрын

    If the emperor is allowed to finally die and resurrect himself surely the chaos gods will use the soul shards to recreate Horus to fight him again.

  • @powerflumi
    @powerflumi5 жыл бұрын

    Remember during the Fall of Cadia when Abbadon learned about a coffin which contains someone in stasis chamber? Could it possible be that the Emperor when he destroyed Horus' soul, he actually destroyed the daemonic part and the corrupted part of Horus? Could it also be possible that the body contained within the stasis coffin is actually Horus' original body? This would leave open the possibility of Horus returning, and maybe even as a loyalist Primarch seeking redemption. Leaving in turn the possibility of having one or more loyalist ( currently presumed anyway ) turning traitor.

  • @catweazle241
    @catweazle2415 жыл бұрын

    Needs a fanfic. This theory is awesome!

  • @orisaacs
    @orisaacs5 жыл бұрын

    It is possible that the Chaos Gods have taken the small amounts of "good" left in Horus, leaving him completely inhumane and primed (pun unintended) to fight the Emperor. Meaning that, potentially, if those 4 soul shards are recovered and implanted then the resulting being would be heroic and noble.

  • @johnnyscifi
    @johnnyscifi4 жыл бұрын

    Im surprised that Horus never ascended to a daemon-prince

  • @happyhammer1
    @happyhammer15 жыл бұрын

    I love Warhammer 40k lore and have never played the tabletop game.

  • @spacemarine6550
    @spacemarine65505 жыл бұрын

    This is very interesting thank you so much

  • @salty1201
    @salty12015 жыл бұрын

    Horus vs Mr Bean.

  • @anthonywood5445
    @anthonywood54455 жыл бұрын

    God I love the 40k keep up the epic work!!

  • @hughgedney3393
    @hughgedney33935 жыл бұрын

    Great video 40k Theories

  • @empresspeach4698
    @empresspeach46985 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the fragments when rejoined will realize the deception and revolt. By keeping them separate Horus is kept unaware of his fate and as such forever in servitude

  • @mistermaster6680
    @mistermaster66805 жыл бұрын

    Hey, as always great video. I'm not a massive 40k and don't know all the lore but i have one theory too. What if Emperor wanted the stagntation and decay for humanity so he could become a god. First he destroyed all religions so in future only faith that coud exit would be about him. I mean there are a lot of Your wideos that suppor the idea that Emperor has his deamons and probably will become some warp entity. I think that's the case because it's a big hole for me that Cabal could foresee the future but not Emp. I think that he just had different plan that he didn't share with everyone. Also if he wanted his to establish imperiat truth, the best moment for him would be age of strife when humati was at tehnological peak, I guess it would be more convenient to establish faith in progress then. For me explatation is that he tried but it failed, so he created new plan, in which he would create warp god, by convincing all humanity to belive in him. Sorry for bad english.

  • @Gus-dj1ub
    @Gus-dj1ub3 жыл бұрын

    We're ignoring the possibility of Trazyn getting his hands on one of these fragments. He'd just put it on display.

  • @AmentiVZ
    @AmentiVZ5 жыл бұрын

    The topic this evening is fine, indeed.

  • @SlimeBlueMS

    @SlimeBlueMS

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gey

  • @Gillymonster18
    @Gillymonster185 жыл бұрын

    Oh I almost forgot! You and Leutin09 should do a collab! Probably been said before but that would be one heck of a video!

  • @usvplaylist8758
    @usvplaylist87585 жыл бұрын

    Ok being new in the lore these are very interesting. So 2 possible outcomes: Magnus may have ties for both grey knight and fan theory favorite blood raven. Abbadon keeps killing clones of Horus as he believes he is the only one who should be the warmaster as he claims as his birthright. Horus got the end of the stick by the Gods because they want him to weaken Emps and discarded like the bones of any stock after countless years in a giant soup pot over high heat. Nice vid tho

  • @shakirjoestar46
    @shakirjoestar465 жыл бұрын

    *Waits in Shadows with Lightning Claws ready.* Ima just wait here till My RavenLord gets a video...

  • @reginlief1
    @reginlief13 жыл бұрын

    I adore the idea that Horus giving up parts of his soul to the chaos gods left him weak willed enough to stoop to the gratification that he observed from killing the mystery interdictor. Explains how the man Horus was could be the man Horus would become.

  • @TheAnon03
    @TheAnon035 жыл бұрын

    The backstory for a homebrew chapter I used to have actually had them being led by a fragment of Horus's soul (though not one of those ones) that would, for lack of a better word, posses one of them.

  • @elenorefangirl3389
    @elenorefangirl33895 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure with enough motivation Bob would do it and go on a two-man black crusade.

  • @dominickglen8338
    @dominickglen8338 Жыл бұрын

    Clone body plus all soul fragments could bring him truly back a good one

  • @canyoutastethemoonshine1780
    @canyoutastethemoonshine17805 жыл бұрын

    FUCKING HORUS

  • @williamtorres4140

    @williamtorres4140

    5 жыл бұрын

    Horus did nothing Wrong. Fuck Lorgar Aurelian!

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@williamtorres4140 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • @kingfranpetty

    @kingfranpetty

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Deathcoldan I think a golden banana sitting in the captain general role has agreement and disagreement with that statement.

  • @wolfblade40k89

    @wolfblade40k89

    5 жыл бұрын

    Magus did nothing wrong Horus is to be blamed for everything

  • @KnightRider378
    @KnightRider3785 жыл бұрын

    “The warp would one day consume the galaxy.” *glances towards the Cicatrix Maledictum* Well shit, that’s not ideal.

  • @paranermal
    @paranermal5 жыл бұрын

    Chaos gate audio. Brilliant :)

  • @JPLOWMAN2
    @JPLOWMAN25 жыл бұрын

    If one of Magnus’ soul shards contained his good side, could there be a similar shard of Horus that contained all that was good about him? This is just my own theory, but in the Audiobook ‘Crusade’, when the Protagonist is on his metaphysical death bed, he’s visited by a being he assumes to be the Emperor, who only replies ‘Once perhaps for my sins’. Who’s to say this was the Emperor - Maybe it was actually Horus’ good soul who’s been fighting against Chaos all this time. Or maybe even the entity known as the God-Emperor was never truly the Emperor, But was really Horus in disguise.

  • @j.bat.8235

    @j.bat.8235

    5 жыл бұрын

    Problem is, the ones to "cut" out the hypotetical four pieces that remain of Horus' soul were the Chaos gods, while the rest was obliterated Big E. What use would the Chaos gods have for Horus' "good side"?

  • @logandelaharpe6362

    @logandelaharpe6362

    5 жыл бұрын

    As far as we know but perhaps big e did find away to save him not like he could tell the imperium hey the guy that fucked us overs a good guy now

  • @Marcusjnmc

    @Marcusjnmc

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@j.bat.8235 to torture it

  • @minnumseerrund

    @minnumseerrund

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the 5th Chaos God has the uncorrupted soul shard of Horus? It kinda makes sense, really... the 5th is the embodiment of Chaos' self-destructive nature, so of course It would keep and nurture the one thing that may ultimately defeat Chaos.

  • @jeremyshiu
    @jeremyshiu5 жыл бұрын

    zero dislikes one hour in baby, high quality content my dude

  • @randomguy3954
    @randomguy39545 жыл бұрын

    Question (im new to warhammer) what happens if there were xenos that worshipped humans?

  • @majormajorasic

    @majormajorasic

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pre-Heresy or Post-Heresy?

  • @randomguy3954

    @randomguy3954

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@majormajorasic post-heresy

  • @happyhammer1

    @happyhammer1

    5 жыл бұрын

    I may be wrong but didn't a small ork faction worship the emperor as a god of war.

  • @alexanderstrickland9036

    @alexanderstrickland9036

    5 жыл бұрын

    They are executed.

  • @majormajorasic

    @majormajorasic

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@randomguy3954 Exterminated, with minimal resistance.

  • @Samm815
    @Samm8155 жыл бұрын

    Ah, I needed another bed time story...

  • @Richforce1
    @Richforce1 Жыл бұрын

    I like to think of one of those shards of Horus would have been captured by a loyalist chapter I came up with highly based around the samurai and would employ Miko themed Psykers to keep it in constant torment. As the chapter master would say "The traitor is to be kept in eternal pain and suffering for turning against the Emperor, beloved by all. But even this punishment without end isn't enough for this most heinous of crimes, no punishment can ever be enough."

  • @r.m.renfield4541
    @r.m.renfield45415 жыл бұрын

    Nice, I was wondering when you were going to dig into the lore of Slaves to Darkness. My own take on this is that the Emperor destroyed all the soul fragments because otherwise what was the point? I thought it was an act of mercy for Horus so to leave 4 parts of him as toys for the chaos gods seems like the whole thing wasn't really worth it.

  • @angelusumbra5741
    @angelusumbra57415 жыл бұрын

    I hope that somewhere, somehow, and some day, Horus can meet his brother Sanguinius and his father The Emperor again, and although it will be very painful for Horus because of the guilt and shame of what he had done, that the Emperor's once favored son can once again reunite with his father and brothers and be at peace. Horus did terrible things. Many many terrible things. But he did them through the deceit and treachery of the Chaos Gods and their servants, and their twisting of Horus' mind and soul. And before all that, Horus had done many great things. He spent many years with his Father and Brothers, and truly loved them and was loved in return. I think he has suffered long enough and that the Emperor will set him free and take him home when the time comes.

  • @MiddleAgedGuy73
    @MiddleAgedGuy735 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't the shard also create someone or something that was loyal to the Emperor? Depending on who it was merged with? Either way it would be fascinating and if they left the door open it could end up being addressed at some point. Great video, thank you!

  • @LocalHeretic-ck1kd
    @LocalHeretic-ck1kd5 жыл бұрын

    Most interesting topic. Horus: " You want a piece of me, boy?"

  • @LarryLarsoLarry
    @LarryLarsoLarry5 жыл бұрын

    Primorus Lupercal

  • @phreakazoith2237
    @phreakazoith22375 жыл бұрын

    Orlanus Pious joined the fight vs. Horus? Awesome!

  • @gwyndolin1536
    @gwyndolin15365 жыл бұрын

    It would be the Ultimate LoLz to put them all back together to make a "Good" Mini-Version of Horus that's trying to save the Universe but eternally dis-trusted. Kind of like a Bizzaro version of Guilliman.

  • @darthbane1629
    @darthbane16295 жыл бұрын

    The Man who Entered the Ship and Confronted the Horus Was Gavriel Locan ,Former Member of Morneval and Horus Legion ,in That Moment Horus asked him to join him,But He Refused,and killed Before the Emperor,and he was 8 Member who Became the Grey Knight,a Founder of the Organization, Good Work as always. P.S.Emperor did Oblitarete his Soul For Good,so that He never Get a Chance to come Back 😎 !!!!!

  • @sunbabybull
    @sunbabybull5 жыл бұрын

    So is it possible to either take a shard or a fusion of all the shards and create a 'loyal horus?'

  • @jakepaton4001
    @jakepaton40014 жыл бұрын

    What in the name of the warp are the other fragments doing, honestly scared for what slennesh makes him do.

  • @NodDisciple1
    @NodDisciple15 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't be surprised if the shards are crammed into Failbaddon's body later on as part of the End Times/Warhammer 41K Storyline.

  • @michaelgood6852
    @michaelgood68525 жыл бұрын

    Food for thought. I like it.

  • @darkpit37
    @darkpit37 Жыл бұрын

    For some reason, Gyre's voice reminds me of Gmork from neverending story.

  • @BuzzChronicles
    @BuzzChronicles5 жыл бұрын

    in what book did he do the task lasting 1000 years im just finished Vengeful Spirit and was dissatisfied with the little info we got

  • @stephenconnell
    @stephenconnell5 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video,So the Chaos Gods appear to have the upper hand despite anything The Imperium of Man might try yet in the game Martyr it appears a super Psychic Humanoid weapon has been developed in secret and at the horrendous sacrifice of human life that will totally obliterate Demons and even possibly destroy The Chaos Gods.but is whisked away out of reach of the investigating Inquisitor lest his brethren. decide to destroy this new creation. Does this Game relate directly to the Warhammer 40K Universe? or is a What if story? or a holy grail of weapons chase that is forever out of reach of The Imperium?

  • @daviewarnock718
    @daviewarnock7185 жыл бұрын

    Clone Fulgrim can get Fabius to recreate his dead brothers, and all fight for the Emperor again.

  • @wolfyboy
    @wolfyboy5 жыл бұрын

    What if all 4 soul shards where implanted into another being? Or combined into 1 shard, and THEN implanted?

  • @mobiusZero2
    @mobiusZero25 жыл бұрын

    Damn bob would love to do the unthinkable....

  • @Sirscruggz
    @Sirscruggz5 жыл бұрын

    Also, “I WILL AVENGE YOU JANUSSSS!!”

  • @badmantrois
    @badmantrois5 жыл бұрын

    Am I alone in feeling like having wankfest every time I see a new 40k theories video pops up? Praise to you man!!! The mightymighymightieat of any Spehhhhhsss Marines chapters most insanely zealous chaplains with Jack shit to do all day long bwai! Biggupyachest rudebwai and keep this good sheeeeeeeet busting. One love & a fist bump (Vulcan styleee thus busting ya knuckles unit!) over & out

  • @danieltgrissani
    @danieltgrissani5 жыл бұрын

    Abandon should get all four soul fragments and go bananas like Majin Vegeta.

  • @jcp3666
    @jcp36665 жыл бұрын

    LOL Gyre was talking while working out

  • @willbob6473
    @willbob64735 жыл бұрын

    WHAT IS THIS HERESY!!! The arch traitor Horus will suffer eternal damnation for his treachery to the IMPERIUM.

  • @Vessarian

    @Vessarian

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well if he would suffer eternal damnation that would mean his soul is not destroyed :)

  • @StormWildSpace
    @StormWildSpace5 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious where you got the art work for "a lone being", because that's art from Mutant Chronicles.

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    5 жыл бұрын

    As I stated the last time you commented this, it's official art from from the Horus Heresy 'Mark of Calth' anthology (from the story 'Unmarked' specifically)

  • @apathetk
    @apathetk5 жыл бұрын

    This means that the human who gave his life for the Emperor and allowed the Emperor to strike the deathblow to Horus, was the one to strike the deathblow the galaxy. Good job, random dude!

  • @asonofhoruslegionary
    @asonofhoruslegionary5 жыл бұрын

    As a Sons of Horus fan I would be all for Horus coming back one way or another. Lupercal!!

  • @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552

    @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552

    Жыл бұрын

    Sons of Horus gets clap by humans 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @goosemanVEVO
    @goosemanVEVO5 жыл бұрын

    So the Emperor did to Horus in an instant, what it is taking thousands of years of torture on the Golden Throne to do to the Emperor?

  • @kazmark_gl8652

    @kazmark_gl8652

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like, something... different, is happening to The Emperor. keep in mind that he has been being worshiped by pretty much all Humanity for ten millennium. given that the Emperor has a significant presence in the warp, and the warp is fueled by human emotions and worship. my own personal theory is that the Emperor is slowly becoming a new god. either the Chaos god of Order, or since the existing Chaos God's consider him Anathema, something more akin to the gods of the Eldar but of greater power. we already know the Emperor's power can manifest his own version of Deamons with Saint Celistine, the Sanguinor and the legion of the Damned. I think its entirely possible that the Golden throne isn't keeping the Emperor alive anymore, more tethering him to his mortal form.

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