The Corruption Of Logan Grimnar - 40K Theories

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Is the Old Wolf of the Vlka Fenryka slowly being tainted by his own blade?
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  • @mercurialfunk2552
    @mercurialfunk25526 жыл бұрын

    40k theories is the Alpha Legion of YT Warhammer channels. Always making me doubt what I think I know.

  • @Abyssal86

    @Abyssal86

    6 жыл бұрын

    40k theories is Karl the deranged in disguise.

  • @lyell63

    @lyell63

    6 жыл бұрын

    So Remleiz is Alpharius??!

  • @majormajorasic

    @majormajorasic

    6 жыл бұрын

    No, *_I_* am Alpharius.

  • @horusdark4343

    @horusdark4343

    6 жыл бұрын

    majormajorasic no I Alpharius

  • @Abyssal86

    @Abyssal86

    6 жыл бұрын

    Also you never see Alfabusa and EgoQueenAlexis in the same place... Illuminati conspiracy confirmed.

  • @darkblood626
    @darkblood6266 жыл бұрын

    “no more fraternizing with demons roleplaying as friendly woodland creatures” - The Emperor

  • @thorbenwolfsblut3824
    @thorbenwolfsblut38246 жыл бұрын

    Khorne: Hahaha, look Tzeentch, the little Wolf managed to smash Magnus so hard that he went back to th warp Tzeentch: Shut up, Khorne Khorne: First, give me the souls! You lost our bet!

  • @fumarc4501

    @fumarc4501

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tzeentch: Fair is fair. Here you go, buddy. Khorne: That’s what I thought. *takes the souls of 4 million angry cats* Tzeentch: *Looks on as Magnus’ spell transports Sortiarius into real space* Just as Planned! Nehehehehehe!

  • @lolbots686

    @lolbots686

    2 жыл бұрын

    elsewhere space wolf:uh my lord a thought occurs Logan:yeah? space wolf:wasnt that the axe of a primarch? logan:well it used to be till i blew that thing to wolfing come and forged the damm thing into something useful. why do you ask anyway? space wolf so technically it has that chaos taint still? Logan:well yeah i dont understand-....oh. OH. OHHH. ......in hindsight i should have remembered that. space wolf:...i should probably call a rune priest to help you shouldn't i logan:yeah yeah 100 percent in the warp khorne:uh...oh no. angron:what are you watching? khorne:we uh...may have a problem angron:wait...did that asshole steal my axe!? how!? khorne: remember when you gave it to kharn? angron:ah. well is he corupted? khorne: strangely not. angron:....uh oh. slanessh enters slanesh:hey just got this new deck aganst the anathema and this dr-....what are you guys watching khorne:uh...we may have a problem slanesh:what did kharn pop a gasket? khone:no...look. slanesh:ah. should i...get fulgrim or...? khorne:no,no i think i wanna see how this plays out? slanessh:...huh. neat. malal:*eldritch screams* to be continued

  • @lolbots686

    @lolbots686

    2 жыл бұрын

    nurgle:ya know of all people surprised your keeping calm about this khorne:im war incarnate genius,patience is part of that nurgle:....yeah good point. anyway,lorgar Still in his tower? i swear corvus needs to give it a rest

  • @j.t8529

    @j.t8529

    2 жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile at Lorgar's tower Lorgar: brother just let me go it's been 10,000 fucking years do you really have nothing better to do? Corvus: NOT UNTIL I BOIL YOUR BONES AND DRINK FROM IT!!

  • @badgamemaster
    @badgamemaster6 жыл бұрын

    Everytime I hear about Khorne forging a weapon I can't help but to think about Khorne punching metal to form it into a weapon and then throwing the weapon after a Daemon to bind it to the weapon

  • @christopherbrown6322
    @christopherbrown63226 жыл бұрын

    Lethal drinking game no. 85: while watching a lore video on the Space Wolves, take a shot whenever the narrator says "wolf"

  • @melonboi927

    @melonboi927

    6 жыл бұрын

    Christopher Brown man I'm three minutes in and I'm already shit faced

  • @thomascruise4966

    @thomascruise4966

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or a Blood Angels video (or Codex...) and drink whenever there's a reference to Blood. Blood missiles, blood fist, blood claws - oh, wait... that's Wolves...

  • @fragarach97

    @fragarach97

    5 жыл бұрын

    No no no... take a shot... of Fenriaian Ale. If you survive, you prove you're a man.

  • @Bublito

    @Bublito

    4 жыл бұрын

    I played the day this comment was posted. I just woke up, what year is this?

  • @blueberry1vom1t

    @blueberry1vom1t

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@fragarach97 if you survive then the space wolves will immediately offer you the chance to start on the long road to becoming a space wolf.

  • @matteussilvestre8583
    @matteussilvestre85836 жыл бұрын

    "What the wolf did ye just howlin' say about me, ya little MILKSOP?!" - Logan Grimnar after seeing this, probably

  • @ragnerschwarzmane3412
    @ragnerschwarzmane34125 жыл бұрын

    Considering that the members of the 13 greatcompany have been stuck in the warp for 10000 years, turned into nothing more than mindless beasts and are STILL loyal suggests otherwise.

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    5 жыл бұрын

    Svane Vulfbad, Skyrar and his Dark Wolves and Sindri (No not the Chaos Sorcerer, the Blood Claw with the same name from Tyrant of the Hollow Worlds) all say hi ^^

  • @ragnerschwarzmane3412

    @ragnerschwarzmane3412

    5 жыл бұрын

    All i‘m trying to say is, if the average „grunt“ space wolf can resist the corruptive influence from being in the warp, then i trust that someone of Logans caliber will be able to resist such a small amount of temptation as a „simpel“ higher demon. Especially if the Relictors where able to pretty much drown themself in these types of artifacts and also stayed loyal. Also i didn‘t knew the dark wolfs where a thing. They look pretty cool, thanks for the info.

  • @FoxHound-ut1hu

    @FoxHound-ut1hu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@40KTheories so the space wolves have one small warband that have turn to chaos, sooooo still doing infinity better than the rest of the Astartes

  • @tanksinatra3968

    @tanksinatra3968

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aaaayyyyeeee!!!!!!! What kind of heresy is this!!!!!!

  • @cuban-being3087

    @cuban-being3087

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FoxHound-ut1hu I agree, the wolves are least likely to turn imo. Leman was arguably the most loyal primarch and he constantly cunsulted with Wyrdmake (the warp) during his time. This theory is bunk, sorry 40k Theories i see you sticking your foot in your mouth with this one.

  • @professorsponge1554
    @professorsponge15546 жыл бұрын

    Khorne has always confused me a little. "Khorne cares not from whom the blood flows" yes 'khorne has a sense of martial honor and dislikes the deaths of the weak and helpless'

  • @widdershins5383

    @widdershins5383

    6 жыл бұрын

    Professor Sponge just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean you won’t take it. If you offer no fight, your skull is worth less and needs more to compensate. If you fight someone strong and worthy, their skull is great. If you defeat someone greater, that skull is worth the most. Simple hierarchy

  • @gilesmerlin8927

    @gilesmerlin8927

    5 жыл бұрын

    You don't really need to make sense when you're an angry, fuck off massive war god

  • @chieflemon1851

    @chieflemon1851

    3 жыл бұрын

    If I remember correctly he doesn’t care where the blood comes from, comes from the fact that he doesn’t care about if it was from his own troops or his enemies.

  • @ParanoidPacific

    @ParanoidPacific

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm under the impression that while Khorne may not care from whence the blood flows, but he'd prefer it falls into his goblet than on his boots.

  • @lionblaze99
    @lionblaze996 жыл бұрын

    I don't think it's physically possible for a demon of Khorne to be "subtle" or "manipulative"in anyway shape or form. Unless for some reason Khorne forged the axe with a demon of Tzeentch in for some strange reason.

  • @peterquint3816

    @peterquint3816

    6 жыл бұрын

    It would still corrupt the user by making them ever more bloodthirsty. That's not subtle manipulation, simply the daemon gaining greater control of the user through exposure.

  • @gallowsgradient

    @gallowsgradient

    6 жыл бұрын

    Slaves to Darkness suggested otherwise.

  • @papanurgle8393

    @papanurgle8393

    6 жыл бұрын

    Samus tells a different story. Slow whispers of madness that teases people into blood-lust are more than possible for Khorne; the first step on the road to the eight-fold path. In the moments of mindless battle, at the heights of glory when the blood runs thick and skulls piled high, it only takes a single second for the unbridled rush of battle to begin pulling you into his service. It's also fairly clear that Khorne both likes, desires, and occasionally corrupts the wolves. Whenever a Space Wolf does turn, they almost always fall to Khorne, he's also directly assisted them through tainted weapons.

  • @gyozamoney5909

    @gyozamoney5909

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tzeentch forged axe. Hmmm... Just as planned

  • @HighlanderFrag4Life

    @HighlanderFrag4Life

    5 жыл бұрын

    gallowsgradient good book. I miss it

  • @Overonator
    @Overonator6 жыл бұрын

    The Space Wolves are so superstitious that their wolf priests would in no way allow a demon weapon to assert itself. They would surely have noticed.

  • @kristopherbruns7674

    @kristopherbruns7674

    6 жыл бұрын

    Overonator hmm

  • @krysc3278

    @krysc3278

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is true, something's not right with that, even a "young" rune priest would have noticed that something's wrong with the axe and would recommened to seal the weapon until new orders

  • @gavrilutavlad3859
    @gavrilutavlad38594 жыл бұрын

    I nearly choked in anger at the insinuation that his actions on armagheddon were to spite the inquisition. While there is no love lost between the space wolves and the inquisition to think that Grimnar would lower himself to such a thing is pure blasphemy

  • @roguepsykerhaaker4813

    @roguepsykerhaaker4813

    3 жыл бұрын

    It does seem reasonable to think that the demon could have encouraged him to do so, even if he would have done it anyway

  • @brandonwalker3107

    @brandonwalker3107

    Жыл бұрын

    Logan only had the axe for a short period so unless the axe was immediately influencing him ( which I highly doubt ) then this was pure chad space wolf decision making

  • @ThomasFishwick
    @ThomasFishwick6 жыл бұрын

    I've collected Space Wolves since the second edition (I still have an original copy somewhere, held together with bull clips and sellotape!) and my main reason for doing so had always been Logan's attitude. A barbaric, honourable, champion that stands between mankind and its greatest of threats. Either from without or within the Imperium. The children of Russ have always been amongst the best of the Space Marine Chapters and the way they've been treated recently both annoys me and thrills me. The great thing about 40K is that things are always changing. That said, while I disagree whole heartedly that Logan should be corrupted, the idea that the Wolves of Fenris are an all but broken and infected by the curse of the wolfen and possibly being lead by a future traitor is exciting. Setting the stage for what we know must be coming, the wolf-time and the return of Leman Russ, perhaps to save the Chapter, or maybe to destroy it once and for all...

  • @icecold1805

    @icecold1805

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean, the fact is Grimnar has become too popular for His Spiritual Liege's taste, and he will probably come up with a bullshit excuse to eliminate the entire chapter from 40K. He will probably do it with all founding chapters until everyone plays ultramarines (everyone being him and 2 other employees cause everyone else will stop playing by the time his bullshit gets enacted).

  • @guy_autordie

    @guy_autordie

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's just a theory, a chapter theory !

  • @rangulfgimfang8322

    @rangulfgimfang8322

    4 жыл бұрын

    FOR RUSS AND THE ALLFATHER..... FOR THE WOLFFTIME!!!!! I agree with you wolf brother.... Russ maybe on his way back to us.

  • @rangulfgimfang8322

    @rangulfgimfang8322

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Space Monkey Aye wolf brother, and it is a day we have been long awaiting... FOR RUSS AND THE ALLFATHER!!

  • @TheYendukua

    @TheYendukua

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rangulf Gimfang dude where’s Russ

  • @Abyssal86
    @Abyssal866 жыл бұрын

    All I got from this was wolf wolfwolfwolfwolfwolfwolf and wolf.

  • @darrianweathington1923

    @darrianweathington1923

    5 жыл бұрын

    Abyssal86 dude it's never been more real

  • @clockwork8968

    @clockwork8968

    5 жыл бұрын

    woof

  • @guy_autordie

    @guy_autordie

    4 жыл бұрын

    And wulf

  • @deptusmechanikus7362

    @deptusmechanikus7362

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to 40Ktheories I now have much more wolves on my wolves

  • @ScreenTalker

    @ScreenTalker

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @thydzz2180
    @thydzz21803 жыл бұрын

    Demon: *Exist within his weapon* Logan: "Listen here you little shit..."

  • @jthompson8177
    @jthompson81776 жыл бұрын

    While I don't like the idea of the spacewolves going to chaos it would be cool to see a civil war within the chapter with the wolf lords taking sides between Logan and maybe Ragnar or one of the other lords resulting in a portion of the space wolves assaultinf the fang (one of the most highly defended fortresses in the galaxy) and the only thing that's stops the fighting and the continued corruption is the arrival of Leman Russ or possibly Bjorn

  • @lordcommissar7813

    @lordcommissar7813

    3 жыл бұрын

    A civil war sounds interesting but between Bjorn and the nature of the space wolves I don't see it happening

  • @jthompson8177

    @jthompson8177

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean i see what you mean but a lot of the books it shows each company as being very independent but also loyal so if grimnar started being chaosy it could be interesting to see how each company chooses sides anf fight against the warriors that they respected like imagine ragnar is going through the fang and comes up to arjac and he has to go through him to get to grimnar or lukas (whos book is really good btw) luring a section of the grimnar faction into a trap but instead of it being fatal it takes them out of the fight for a bit because none of them really want to kill each other

  • @Cemtexify
    @Cemtexify4 жыл бұрын

    Logan Grimnar: Risks his chapter being declared traitors and wiped out by the inquisition to save innocent civilians Also Logan Grimnar: Doesn't do the same for Fenrisian civilians who are more important to the chapter I think you might be onto something

  • @theexistentialnihilist2070

    @theexistentialnihilist2070

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like that's probably just Games Workshop being Games Workshop. Especially if those two stories have different authors.

  • @brandonwalker3107

    @brandonwalker3107

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m pretty sure it comes down to the fact that the space wolves weren’t strong enough to resist and that Magnus had purposefully spread corruption throughout Fenris and that this was a more severe case then with Armageddon

  • @JC.Denton.

    @JC.Denton.

    Жыл бұрын

    They actually evacuated a lot of fenrisians during that war.

  • @CynicalPete
    @CynicalPete4 жыл бұрын

    "There shall come a time far from now when our Chapter itself is dying..."

  • @internetzenmaster8952
    @internetzenmaster89526 жыл бұрын

    You know what they say: "Power corrupts, and Chaos corrupts absolutely." What do you mean that's not the saying?! What are you, some kind of heretic?!

  • @sanctusservus4714

    @sanctusservus4714

    6 жыл бұрын

    Internet Zen Master Naw, I'm just a Grey Knight.

  • @hubbablahloo1843

    @hubbablahloo1843

    6 жыл бұрын

    Did someone say heretic????? Better lay down the extermanatuis on every planet within a 100 light years just in case.

  • @fumarc4501

    @fumarc4501

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oi! Datz enough harusee!

  • @tank7737
    @tank77374 жыл бұрын

    I still find it freaking hilarious that Magnus has a Madonna-style cone bra

  • @bloodwolfkoji
    @bloodwolfkoji6 жыл бұрын

    Logan can overcome this taint, he is a proud warrior of Fenris, the Vlka-Fenryka shall endure!

  • @fumarc4501

    @fumarc4501

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tell that to the Wolf Brothers, the Blood Wolves, and the Dark Wolves.

  • @krysc3278

    @krysc3278

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@fumarc4501 jajaja yeah, . . . ,wait what?

  • @martynborthwick1845
    @martynborthwick18455 жыл бұрын

    No chance. The grey Knights would've sensed it and been drawn to it like moths to the light. As would the Rune Priests, of whom the Great Wolf takes advice from. If his trusted advisors told him that weapon was corrupting him, ditch it now - ditch it he would

  • @miggiraed.raquinel8867
    @miggiraed.raquinel88676 жыл бұрын

    So if they fall to chaos then we have Space Norsca

  • @valjester8342
    @valjester83424 жыл бұрын

    I have never in my life heard someone saying: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!. (...ehem) So calmly.

  • @barnabastalon5846

    @barnabastalon5846

    3 жыл бұрын

    😏😂😂😂🤠

  • @pakeha8095
    @pakeha80955 жыл бұрын

    After watching this I would like to see a video on the Space Wolves 13th company. I'd say good luck but you are good at finding facts about things.

  • @christiansantiago3007
    @christiansantiago30074 жыл бұрын

    The red wolf of Khorn rises? I think in the 40k universe any use of daemon weaponry is a universal mistake.

  • @Duppyman695

    @Duppyman695

    3 жыл бұрын

    Chaos welcomes The Wolf Lord Logan , Blood for the Blood God !

  • @mr.rousseau.4655

    @mr.rousseau.4655

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see red wolves beating up gray knights.

  • @cgavin1
    @cgavin16 жыл бұрын

    I loved that scene in The Emperor's Gift where the inquisitors come before Bjorn and pee themselves: ‘God-Emperor?’ The Dreadnought made the sound of gears slipping, grinding together. From the booming augmetic tone, I assumed it was supposed to be laughter. Either that, or an internal weapons system reloading. ‘Calling him a god was how all this mess started.’ www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/8oh331/book_excerptthe_emperors_gift_bjorn_meets_a/

  • @deep_fried_analysis
    @deep_fried_analysis6 жыл бұрын

    Love this theory, it contributes to thickening of the general 41k plot. Well done :D

  • @jjvagnar1
    @jjvagnar16 жыл бұрын

    There's nothing that says the axe of morkai was a daemon weapon. It was a Chaos weapon yes, but we're never told it has a daemon in it, and Khorne has created runes and items that are strongly anti magical without sentient daemon in them. Besides the Rune priests are really good at spotting Chaos corruption and have plenty of rites for exorcism, so they probably just removed the corruption whilst keeping the blades special anti psyker power.

  • @TheTrueFeleas
    @TheTrueFeleas6 жыл бұрын

    Khorne probably leaned back in his Skull Throne and steepled his fingers saying, "Just as planned!"

  • @unaizuriarrain1071
    @unaizuriarrain10716 жыл бұрын

    Awesome work as always !

  • @travisfisher5719
    @travisfisher57196 жыл бұрын

    Has Grimnar found Kaldor Draigo's supply of warp dust?

  • @rogaldorn4759

    @rogaldorn4759

    6 жыл бұрын

    Travis Fisher In Grimnar's case, a few administered doses of narcotics may help him regain his composure. If there was any to begin with.

  • @redenginner

    @redenginner

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Rogal Dorn or just a firm dreadnaught pimp slap from bjorn.

  • @fumarc4501

    @fumarc4501

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh no

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts

    @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts

    5 жыл бұрын

    Have you seen the size of Logan Grimnars beard? Plenty of space for tiny men...

  • @krysc3278

    @krysc3278

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh, oh no, oh nooooooo, if he found that we're doomed!! Quick sent grimmar to therapy!! Or we'll be slaughtered like no tomorrow!!

  • @cjblesing
    @cjblesing6 жыл бұрын

    I think they are setting up Ragnar Blackmane to become Great Wolf in any case.

  • @superthrowdown1

    @superthrowdown1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Im very OK with this

  • @Dingus_Khaan
    @Dingus_Khaan6 жыл бұрын

    All I could get out of that was "WOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLFWOLF"

  • @Bloodgulchblue

    @Bloodgulchblue

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ah, I see you do not speak the Fenrisian tongue.

  • @baastex
    @baastex6 жыл бұрын

    Wasnt that poem written before the war of armageddon as he used to wield a sword before he wielded the axe

  • @roguepsykerhaaker4813

    @roguepsykerhaaker4813

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well yeah (actually I have no idea but probably) but it could be prophetic in nature

  • @Neko_Medic
    @Neko_Medic6 жыл бұрын

    Khorne is the god of COURAGE, HONOR and JUSTICE too, remember?

  • @RichterBelmont2235

    @RichterBelmont2235

    6 жыл бұрын

    Neko Medic the Imperium are too dumb to see more than black and white, also they cannot see in 3D.

  • @Nic7800

    @Nic7800

    6 жыл бұрын

    Neko Medic also Khorne will not stab you in the back but in the face till it no longer look like a face

  • @Tacoguy1000

    @Tacoguy1000

    5 жыл бұрын

    Neko Medic Courage huh? I have yet to see it.

  • @harrisonglickman1996

    @harrisonglickman1996

    5 жыл бұрын

    Found the chaos follower.

  • @krysc3278

    @krysc3278

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Nic7800 at least he knows the meaning of honor, and a proud warrior with one will never do some shit like backstabing

  • @InquisitorThomas
    @InquisitorThomas6 жыл бұрын

    The real question is will Zoran comment on this video again?

  • @beastsomataw

    @beastsomataw

    6 жыл бұрын

    we may never know.

  • @Ranmus
    @Ranmus6 жыл бұрын

    The Old Wolf is much stronger than you think. Believe in him, and be vindicated.

  • @Matt-md5yt

    @Matt-md5yt

    6 жыл бұрын

    Twinarbalest might have Wolfen in him?

  • @tristan1392

    @tristan1392

    6 жыл бұрын

    The stronger you are the greater khorne's influence is.

  • @ShinigamiSamaH

    @ShinigamiSamaH

    6 жыл бұрын

    He is strong, but he is no Primarch. And how did it turned out with those Primarchs again?

  • @mobiusZero2

    @mobiusZero2

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wolf lord has been corrupted.

  • @captainl-ron4068

    @captainl-ron4068

    6 жыл бұрын

    Shinigami Sama the weaker among them fell to chaos, Russ was strong as are his sons

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl5 жыл бұрын

    Wait... Khorne burst into laughter? Must have been something great to break Magnus’ wards.

  • @miggiraed.raquinel8867
    @miggiraed.raquinel88676 жыл бұрын

    Of course a Space Yiff is bound to fall to chaos but the fallen........ I mean the totally loyal Dark Angels will never fall to chaos

  • @miggiraed.raquinel8867

    @miggiraed.raquinel8867

    6 жыл бұрын

    Arpad Horvath your lord already fell to the bloodlust of Khorne and look up the sky the Ravenwing has arrived

  • @miggiraed.raquinel8867

    @miggiraed.raquinel8867

    6 жыл бұрын

    Arpad Horvath the spess yiffs are also corrupted by a hidden chaos god and his name is............................ Matt Ward

  • @miggiraed.raquinel8867

    @miggiraed.raquinel8867

    6 жыл бұрын

    Arpad Horvath I tricked you into using the powers matt ward gave to you known as plot armor and that confirms you are his warriors known as the dreaded mary sues and oh look a virus bomb in the sky waiting to kill you all. *teleports away*

  • @miggiraed.raquinel8867

    @miggiraed.raquinel8867

    6 жыл бұрын

    Arpad Horvath didnt Creed dissappear during the fall of Cadia and it seems your other space yiff friends have arrived and they are lead by...... Svane Vulfbad and you are still mary sues BTW

  • @miggiraed.raquinel8867

    @miggiraed.raquinel8867

    6 жыл бұрын

    Leman Russ dont reveal yourself yet you dont even have a model just like my primarch

  • @ForgottenHonor0
    @ForgottenHonor06 жыл бұрын

    "WHAT IN THE WARP DID YE JEST SAY ABOUT ME, YE HOWLIN' MILKSOP?!!!"

  • @OmegaLittleBob
    @OmegaLittleBob2 жыл бұрын

    This definitely feels like a topic worth revisiting after the "Wolftime" novel. Though there it was less Logan being influenced by Chaos and more him just being a grumpy old man.

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll possibly do so when I get around to finally reading that novel :)

  • @rajasitumorang2946
    @rajasitumorang29466 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't the grey knights around him sense the (subtle) corruption in Grimnar or his axe ?

  • @barnabastalon5846

    @barnabastalon5846

    3 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps not, several instances have occurred where tainted weapons were around those that would sense them, and they were able to hide themselves...Horus detected Fulgrim’s Laer blade, and he wasn’t even a librarian...🤠

  • @barnabastalon5846

    @barnabastalon5846

    3 жыл бұрын

    Horus just sensed a change, a librarian or a rune priest would have noticed, unless a strong ward against detection was in place...just mho...🤠

  • @leopoldjenkins
    @leopoldjenkins6 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @Erebdai
    @Erebdai5 жыл бұрын

    This sounds like your theoretical heresy story. (One of my favorite videos.)

  • @conorkelleher7712
    @conorkelleher77125 жыл бұрын

    The axe is possibly a double daemon weapon. While there is no guarantee that there is or was a daemon bound in the blade, the fact that khorne himself forged it makes it demonic in nature. If there was a daemon in it, it was most likely exorcism during the reforging. However, the fact that it's original for was created by khorne, was possibly allow it to be a direct conduit for his influence. So my theory is that khorne himself has been influencing Logan.

  • @Shogundoxie1414
    @Shogundoxie14146 жыл бұрын

    I could have swore Remilez already did this theory.

  • @ThatOneIsaac

    @ThatOneIsaac

    6 жыл бұрын

    "This is an updated version of an older video with additional information and cleaner audio"

  • @NEprimo

    @NEprimo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Donn Achtenberg 40ktheories is better imo, he doesn't just read from wikis

  • @vince2682
    @vince26824 жыл бұрын

    The guy one shotted a Grey Knight Grand Master. Hype is real.

  • @YaBoyYeti
    @YaBoyYeti6 жыл бұрын

    i wonder whith what the chaos gods tempted Lukas behind the gate of Markai and how Lukas trolled them all before drinking from the cup of the wulfen.

  • @sternhell7821
    @sternhell78216 жыл бұрын

    40K you should update your character to The Chapter Master of the 40K Lore Community.

  • @QuinchGaming
    @QuinchGaming6 жыл бұрын

    It's without question he's being turned...this is why the Great Wolf himself, Russ, is returning!

  • @Duppyman695

    @Duppyman695

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Wolf Time is upon us !

  • @RogerS1978
    @RogerS19786 жыл бұрын

    But he can't be, he delivers presents to the galaxy's kids every Slaneshmas

  • @gedmcloughlin866
    @gedmcloughlin8666 жыл бұрын

    Awesome theory. Would explain why they're leaving the SW codex till last!!

  • @Butonz1
    @Butonz14 жыл бұрын

    If an entire company of Space Wolves can spend 10,000 years of real space time in the warp and come about mostly how they went in, I think the old wolf is fine >.>

  • @PsychoWarper
    @PsychoWarper3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting idea, although some of the “evidence” seems a little iffy. I will admit I could see it as a way to lead into Wolftime and the return Russ which could be very interesting. (Although I am biased since the Wolves are my favourite Chapter)

  • @mam2087
    @mam20876 жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen the Coming Storm books so please answer this , what happened to Fenris? Is it gone ? All of it?

  • @Insanebeast123
    @Insanebeast1236 жыл бұрын

    Y’all don’t mind if I “Reforge a demon blade into my own personal weapon that can possible corrupt me to the powers of chaos”

  • @miggiraed.raquinel8867
    @miggiraed.raquinel88676 жыл бұрын

    BLOODS AND BONES FOR MY GOD ARIOCH.........Oops wrong chaos god and universe

  • @RenegadePaladin
    @RenegadePaladin6 жыл бұрын

    I feel like I've seen this video months ago even though it was just posted yesterday...

  • @lazysponge
    @lazysponge6 жыл бұрын

    Doesnt Fenrisian Rune Energy do things to warpbeings? In Fury of the Abyss the Wolf Guard Pack Leader was the only dude (bar the thousand son) to hurt the war predators.

  • @troikas3353
    @troikas33536 жыл бұрын

    Are there any chapters not known for their brutality? I feel like that would be a smaller list.

  • @bolrath6984
    @bolrath69844 жыл бұрын

    What if in the reforging process, the blade was almost corrupted, but this would be a corruption against khorne so instead of having the negative influences of khorne it has the positives, so the ideals of having martial strength, honour and loyalty that all great warriors will have. So it might have increased these ideals within grimnar making him more easily accepting of killing those who threaten and kill those he fought with.

  • @thomascruise4966
    @thomascruise49665 жыл бұрын

    As a Space Wolf player for some 22 years, I don't see any way possible for Grimnar to be corrupted. As far as why he suddenly allowed the Fenrisian tribes to be butchered after having risked his own chapter for the citizens of Armageddon, you bring up a good point in your video: this would condemn the Wolves to death as a Chapter without the Primaris. In effect, I think this is a case of GW writing in its own justification for why the Wolves - a notoriously prideful and independent chapter based in its sagas and traditions - would accept this drastic change to the entire fabric of their chapter, from tactics all the way down to legacy and identity and heritage of the Chapter itself. "Oh, see, the Wolves (and therefore Wolf players) need to include Primaris in their armies because they can't sustain themselves anymore with such a small recruiting pool."

  • @bagrym
    @bagrym6 жыл бұрын

    would be fitting to the current situation of fenris. this might indeed be the time of the wulfen ?

  • @FullCaber
    @FullCaber5 жыл бұрын

    So is my chaos spoon corrupting my pure heart at this very momment

  • @1990robato
    @1990robato6 жыл бұрын

    Hiya 40K theory! I have always enjoyed your work and recently saw one of your videos on the prequel to Warhammer 40k. Intrigued by the subject, may I recommend a potential video on the film "Event Horizon"? Directed by Paul W. S. Anderson and starring Laurence Fishburne & Sam Neill. The Plot of the story goes something like "the Event Horizon, a spacecraft that vanished years earlier, suddenly reappears, a team is dispatched to investigate the ship. " The film had always fascinated me because I have always thought the event itself was a prequel way into the infancy of the dark age of technology and the story describes mankind's first experimentation with warp drive and totally clueless to the horror it contains. It would be awesome to have your analysis and thoughts on the film and the connection it has with the 40 K universe. Your loyal servator BoB

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    6 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps for halloween

  • @MrKago1
    @MrKago16 жыл бұрын

    I think it's a bit of a plot hole that the Grey Knights didn't detect the deamonic blade to begin with. Then again, Logan may not be slowly succumbing to corruption of Khorne, he may slowly be losing a battle with the Curse of the Wolfen. Especially since it was a battle against Tzeetch forces.

  • @jonathanraynovic7401
    @jonathanraynovic74016 жыл бұрын

    It’d be kinda neato from a story standpoint if old Loggy did wind up following Khorne, but I don’t think it’s likely to happen. All kinds of folks in the imperium use daemon weapons and wind up staying loyal, I don’t see why they would let this one corrupt such an important character in the setting unless Geedubs has some kind of chaos/wolves upsale scheme set.

  • @marianoseravalli6994
    @marianoseravalli69942 жыл бұрын

    I can imagine a sitcom of logan and the demon axe telling him to turn to chaos and logan telling it to fuck offf

  • @mrblunttube
    @mrblunttube4 жыл бұрын

    Is this luten49 or w.e.s other page?

  • @SgtThiel
    @SgtThiel6 жыл бұрын

    but what of the wolf sledge?

  • @crack61616
    @crack616166 жыл бұрын

    at 4:04.....what are these strange demonlike shadows in the upper right,over the door???are these shadows of khorne demons ????

  • @SimGeeKilo
    @SimGeeKilo6 жыл бұрын

    is there any novel regarding Logan Grimmer defense of the 1st Armageddon war? Detailing is dealings with the inquisition

  • @user-cj5nk8jk4w

    @user-cj5nk8jk4w

    6 жыл бұрын

    There is a Grey Knight book called Gift of the Emperor. It talks about a Grey Knight Account of the First War for Armageddon, and the events that led up to the Months of Shame that followed. The Space Wolves and Logan Grimnar appear in the book quite often.

  • @vetabok
    @vetabok6 жыл бұрын

    Kaldor Draigo too has a weapon that was forged from a former demon weapon so it can be that it is a valid option to use these materials.

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes but that was when it was reforged from the remains of M'kar's weapon, and the daemonc entity was driven out of the original blade by the Grey Knights.

  • @FoxHound-ut1hu
    @FoxHound-ut1hu3 жыл бұрын

    Ya man I'd say it's more likely Calgar turns traitor with his gauntlets than old Grimmnar.

  • @MrBensella
    @MrBensella6 жыл бұрын

    40k theories can you cover the war of the 1000 sons against fenrice?

  • @gerardmontgomery280
    @gerardmontgomery2806 жыл бұрын

    Nah, Grimnar is simply too stubborn and pig-headed to fall to chaos.

  • @The_Blood_Wraith
    @The_Blood_Wraith5 жыл бұрын

    I think the fact that primaris marines likely come from any word but fenris and heresy era space wolves came at least in part from terra, i think its more that fenrisians have a much higher success rate of accepting the canis helix, and not exclusive. i know what their codex says but other items in lore lead to a different answer.

  • @NEprimo
    @NEprimo6 жыл бұрын

    I think the recording and sigils and seals placed upon the axe will stop or felt corruption

  • @capnduff
    @capnduff5 жыл бұрын

    and that last line is why khorne will never be destroyed unless there is no more blood to be spilled in anyway anywhere.

  • @MsCreepyChan
    @MsCreepyChan3 жыл бұрын

    They did explain why he allowed the extermination of their Fenrisian locals: 1) Fenris was already weak from the Dark Angel's being retarded and attempting to massacre their allies (As they are known for doing) 2) They had brought the Wulfen back to Fenris and he saw them as the key for finding Russ. He hoped that by allowing the Grey Knights to kill the locals, he would be able to keep the Wulfen. (This worked) 3) He had a plan for a mass population program for the world by introducing fertility drugs into the waters of Fenris in order to try and force the locals to breed rapidly.

  • @andrewharper1609
    @andrewharper16095 жыл бұрын

    The question is why the rune priests would let him wield a Daemon weapon. Sounds like a hole in the theory to me.

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum50136 жыл бұрын

    Hey could you do a lore video on the dark Eldar ?

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    6 жыл бұрын

    The next lore for newcomers video is about them :3

  • @alucardwesker6807
    @alucardwesker68076 жыл бұрын

    I would LOVE to see an entire chapter fall to the dark gods but I doubt GW would ever allow it

  • @asafusubov696
    @asafusubov6966 жыл бұрын

    Correct me if i'm wrong but hasn't Grimnar himself fought against daemons of Khorne at some point in 40k?

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes but daemons also fight amongst themselves :3

  • @asafusubov696

    @asafusubov696

    6 жыл бұрын

    40K Theories agree. Sorry for offtopic then but in your opinion who's the mightiest of them Angrath, kabandah, Angron or doombreed

  • @nielsmichiels1939
    @nielsmichiels19396 жыл бұрын

    I can imagine that he would get along with Vulcan.

  • @derekdrake8706
    @derekdrake87064 жыл бұрын

    It's not a question of if, it's a question of when.

  • @xethified
    @xethified6 жыл бұрын

    With Roboute back again, it'll only be a matter of time. I'm guessing another bunch of chapters will fall to chaos as more primarchs are restored and we'll have a second heresy. Roboute in that regard has been a perfect understudy to the Emperor.

  • @NoTimeAllTime
    @NoTimeAllTime Жыл бұрын

    Khorne doesn’t need prayers for worship, using his blade to shed blood is worship enough.

  • @asideofsalt.6645
    @asideofsalt.66456 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't Morkai purified?

  • @m_h8745
    @m_h87455 жыл бұрын

    The Vlka Fenryka have always questioned the authority of organizations like the Inquisition. Even Leman Russ has a long history with his sort of anti authoritarian attitude, so it only makes sense that they naturally operate unusually outside the bounds of any set of rules presented by other entities in the Imperium. I feel like if there was any source of Chaos within their ranks it would've manifested already, especially with what you have been proposing with Logan Grimnar

  • @pentadeuce1086
    @pentadeuce10866 жыл бұрын

    You keep talking about something called the "eight fold path." I apologize for my ignorance, but what exactly is the eight fold path?

  • @40KTheories

    @40KTheories

    6 жыл бұрын

    Chaos

  • @Duppyman695

    @Duppyman695

    3 жыл бұрын

    The way to Daemon hood is to follow the eight fold path ! Blood for the Blood God

  • @plasmancer6104
    @plasmancer61046 жыл бұрын

    Logan wouldn't turn to Khorne worship, I mean where the feth would he get ale strong enough to knock out the Death Guard?

  • @TearDownGenesis
    @TearDownGenesis6 жыл бұрын

    Anyone able to link the art used @9:38

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt6 жыл бұрын

    I thought about him recently, hope he is ok.

  • @Matt-md5yt

    @Matt-md5yt

    6 жыл бұрын

    LORD CAEDUS LIVES!! He may become a Werewolf.

  • @1Timwolf
    @1Timwolf6 жыл бұрын

    Everything is possible in the 40k universe but it also states in the Wolves Fluff that the people of Fenris only aspiration in life is to become a sky warrior for the all father. As someone with 11,000 points of space wolves I hope they don't go down the path of traitor legion. Also I have a plague marine army already which is why I hope they do not fall to chaos.

  • @urapooper362
    @urapooper3626 жыл бұрын

    Couple of thoughts after this: Is it just me or you kinda start to wonder how much Chapter Masters have demonic weapons I know papa smurf has his fisting thing, You would think after what happened to his brother Rowboat Girlyman would have put that as a rule down for his book so no one gets corrupted through weapons like those. We all agree that Tzeentch is to blame for the old wolf's decision. So he can make the Primaris Marines look better to drive up their sales.

  • @legionaireb
    @legionaireb6 жыл бұрын

    I was leery of the idea for most of the video, but the fact that he let the Grey Knights purge his own people when he was willing to go to war against them under almost the same circumstances before is suggestive.

  • @Reverb154
    @Reverb1546 жыл бұрын

    Didn't you already cover this theory already?

  • @Tucker0603
    @Tucker06035 жыл бұрын

    I don't think he can be corrupted to Khorne, he's already War Santa of 40K.

  • @i_dont_have_a_name
    @i_dont_have_a_name6 жыл бұрын

    space wolf best chapter!!!!!!!!!!

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