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just as an FYI to all those losing their minds over me saying the original is unwatchable, let me add some context to that comment. is the film an ultimate classic? yes, of course it is, was it incredibly ground breaking and mind-blowing back then? yes, absolutely, without a doubt! however, my reverence of the film as a classic and something i loved, does not blind me to the fact that unfortunately, if going back and viewing it against modern standards, it does not hold up. IN MY OPINION, i did not say it was a fact. you are welcome to your opinion as am i. would i make a video on it, if i thought it was shit? no.
@ObfuscateMoon
7 жыл бұрын
Mr H Reviews But what about Tron 2.0??
@malikiori
7 жыл бұрын
Mr H Reviews Agreed.
@michaelcarney6280
6 жыл бұрын
Mr H Reviews agreed tried to watch it again still enjoyed it but it lost its wow factor due to its age unfortunately but still a classic
@davidconway6874
6 жыл бұрын
How about "it looks dated." which is a true statement considering it's over 30 years old. And it should look dated, special FX need to continue to evolve and Tron was one of those movies that helped push them to the next level. "Unwatchable" makes it sound like no entertainment value can be gleaned from viewing it.
@donovanhuffine2983
6 жыл бұрын
Mr H Reviews I totally agree. Legacy’s visuals were INSANE and its unfortunate they aren’t doing the sequel. Tron Legacy was a movie I can’t forgot and Its unfortunate that it got bad reviews
I'm surprised Tron uprising wasn't mentioned. The show made Tron such a fascinating character.
@danielwilliamson6180
3 жыл бұрын
I watched Tron Uprising for the first time on KZread about 6 months ago and it was great. Such a shame it last only 1 season and it expanded the Tron universe.
@carlanderson2110
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielwilliamson6180 it probably would have continued if Disney hadn't purposely jumped on a grenade by releasing episodes at midnight.
"Tron" is actually a computer command in Altair Basic. It's short for "Trace On" and is used to trace bad integers in a program. Its counterpart is "Troff" or "Trace Off"
@TheJosep70
5 жыл бұрын
True, but Steven Lisberger says in the commentary that the name is short for "electron".
@julesbaccarat2975
4 жыл бұрын
TRON would have been the coolest name for any movie ever if based on the BASIC TRON command. Sadly, the creator honestly said the command was "a happy coincidence." :( Say it ain't so. But it was.
@julesbaccarat2975
4 жыл бұрын
Back in the day I used the TRON command all the time. Sounds like you know it did half of the program debugging effort for you,, giving you a code line and actual or close to it error message.
@jaybitty6954
4 жыл бұрын
Nerd lol
@Raikeran
3 жыл бұрын
lmao Troff
It's sad we probably won't get another tron film. I really felt tron legacy was under rated. I thought it was a good movie. But ey.
@MisterUnknown707
4 жыл бұрын
You should check out the animated Show: Tron Uprising. It's really damn awesome.
@TheAlienGangster
3 жыл бұрын
@Astranat maybe. We thought Ascension was guaranteed and look how that turned out. Hopefully this one doesn’t fall apart within Disney.
@gouryg4774
2 жыл бұрын
Well according to Jared Leto Tron 3 is back in development. He is supposedly playing a character named Aires.
@BuckerydogSchmuckeryDog
2 жыл бұрын
@@gouryg4774 ew
@shabnamrafique7730
2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe we will!
I loved Tron and I love Tron Legacy. The soundtrack to Legacy was incredible and watching it on its opening day is still in my memory. I hope I'm alive to see another sequel.
Even though I wasn't into Tron but the character I saw in Legacy was heartbreaking and possibly the final act he did was to protect those from tyranny. A perfect example of heroism and bravery. Although I would recommend that you do all of Del Toro's array of critters as their is a lot of info on them.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+G Koh great suggestion dude and something I definitely am thinking of
Tron Legacy in IMAX opening night is easily in my top 5 imax movie going experiences of all time. It was amazing and I hope we will get another sequel one day but no rush. Curious to know why you think the original is almost unwatchable now its been years since ive tried to watch it. Is it because its really boring if you go back to it now?
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Everardo_G its more the graphics really, also, slow. A lot of older films suffer from the slow story telling but its culmination of things, even the outfits are almost laughable, which back then were obviously cutting edge. Its just a sign of the times unfortunately
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+XY ZW that was incredibly smart of Disney
@Ghosthound_X
7 жыл бұрын
Mr H Reviews Yeah the pacing is probably horrible if you go back to it now. But you know they say that the glowing circuits on the costumes in the original were hand painted on each frame of the movie that's insane so you gotta give props to those effects people from that movie.
@Ghosthound_X
7 жыл бұрын
XY ZW Even the Disney castle intro in grid form was super amazing what a way to open the movie
@BlackBirdieGolf
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, it was so dope and the music was insane.
bro! I loved this universe! it's a shame that Disney is kinda giving up on Tron. =(
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Julio Camargo III it was the fans, it received such backlash for whatever reason, much like Prometheus. Unfortunate really
@MrMartechi
7 жыл бұрын
It takes a really strong lead nowadays to push a franchise forward and Alien is probably really lucky to have such a lead in Ridley Scott, who has enough of a reputation to get away with Prometheus. Tron didn't seem to get that lucky.
@2002films
5 жыл бұрын
But Disney will push that shit stain Star Wars they are making especially The Last Jedi
My wife cries every time I say that "I fight for the Users!" Legacy was a worthy and welcome update to the series. Did you play the game? where you're basically Tron's Tron?
I grew up with TRON (the original), I thought it was a BRILLIANT movie, and it captivated the wonder and creativity that Computers bestowed to humanity. I saw it as a child, and I thought it was a magical/technological wonderland where anything you program can be transformed into something more than simple coding and scripts, but rather something with a purpose, with value, and a rich tapestry of a digital life. And for me personally, Tron legacy ADDED to that world. It gave us more of a backstory, more of a vast landscape, where programs didnt just run algorithms , or execute commands, but they indeed take on a life of their own. They had their own thoughts, feelings and desires. They could even act in human-like ways. Being secretive, duplicitous, vengeful, conspiratorial, or being devious, deceptive, and controversial. I personally LOVED the soundtrack especially, it gave the mood of the world perfectly. And I personally feel they SHOULD have continued with the franchise, even more so after the epilogue "Flynn Lives", where they brought back former cast members that were not in Tron Legacy. I feel by adding to the franchise, would have been more profitable for Disney in the end, they just simply should have ignored the internet trolls that talked trash about it, and looked at the boxoffice numbers it produced. And of course we ALL would have loved to find out what would happen with an Isomorph in the real world, what Quorra could have done in our world, and what changes she might have brought about.
@gouryg4774
2 жыл бұрын
The original was ground breaking stuff for its time. Digital motion capture was in its infancy.
I think tron legacy is massively underrated, rinzler/tron was my favourite character in the movie. He was badass
I loved Tron legacy. I remember watching it all those years back. The soundtracks, the artstyle, the characters, the colors...it was all beautiful. I've lost count on how many times i've seen it, yet always managed to hear, or see something new.
They said they're not doing the Legacy sequel, but we'll see how they feel in 25 years...
I love the tron franchise sadly still haven't watched the first tron but I know most of the story.Tron is such a cool character HE'S STILL ALIVE!! They better make another one so we can see him again
@LoyaFrostwind
4 жыл бұрын
Go and watch the first one now. Just accept and love its campy '80s style for what it is.
Tron is one of my favorite movie!!!!
I was really into this until you said the original was "almost unwatchable." Its a fantastic film with effects that still impress, especially considering when it came out. As for Legacy, I loved it too, I had no complaints and think both films are wonderful. I really hope we get another Tron in the near future.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Joe Bishop I wasn't slating the movie, its an incredible classic however, when you look at it with modern day standards it doesn't hold up. That doesn't detract from it being a classic, the times have just moved on
@joebishop1712
7 жыл бұрын
It definitely shows it's age but I think what it did back then was an incredible feat so I mainly just try and see it with eyes from back then. That said, I wasn't on the attack or anything, you're entitled to form your own opinion and that's why I watch your channel. This is honestly the first time I think I've disagreed on anything you've ever said, lol.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Joe Bishop don't get Me wrong, I love the original and watching it back then was incredibly mind blowing.
@joebishop1712
7 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine. I was alive back then but didn't actually see this until the early 2000's. I hadn't even heard of it until then. The sequel to me, felt like it did what the original did for the 80's and really pushed the visuals. Just a stellar franchise visually and for the story it tells.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Joe Bishop well, I have a few more videos planned on it :) between other things as well! So hopefully you stick around for them :)
Thank you for touching this Tron story. I was unable to watch the first one as much as it is a classic. I am such a big Tron fan.
nice to see you expanding the types of vids H, good job on the video too!
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Harry Arnott hey Harry! Yeah did the announcement on Monday, so this is the first of the branching out videos :)
Nice vid it really helps me understand the Tron movies
Hi Mr. H! TRON has a special pop place in my heart. My name is LaTrone, but my mom nicknamed me Tron long before TRON came out in 1982. As a 8/9 year old kid from the west side of Chicago, it was so exciting to see that there was an electronic superhero with my nickname. I didn't TRON till it came on t.v. in the mid 1980's. There was a TRON arcade game I use to play as often as possible when I was able to get a little money. It's still my favorite game of all time. I hope somehow or someway TRON makes it back on the big screen again soon.
I always get a kick out of the name Allen Bradley. Makes me feel nostalgic for the wonderul early era of computing.
@gouryg4774
2 жыл бұрын
It was meant as a subtle reference to the company that manufacturers electromechanical components and industrial automation equipment.
Awesome topic choice. Keep em' coming!
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+la7eralus glad you liked it man
Quality content as always mate.
Nice work Mr H! Tron is an amazing franchise! Both movies are major favorites of mine!
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+SciFi Explained ah, I see you're back, glad you enjoyed the video Mr explained
It was awesome, and I'm sorry they did not continue the series. I was too young to remember exactly who Tron was, so when I saw Legacy, a lot of missing pieces were filled in.
Man I loved the last scene between K.Flynn and Clue. I enjoyed the score too, good movie.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+TheMad King such a great scene, Flynn essentially the unsuspecting villain of the film. He created his own captor. Failing to programme him with the appropriate directives
Great review mr H, like always your analysis is dead on and i love tron legacy!
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Jenny Lagman thanks Jenny, glad you enjoyed it! Not everyone's cup of tea and realise going from alien and predator to tron is a bit jarring but though I'd go off the deep end first then swim to familiar waters with other videos lol
Love how they show Anon in the thumbnail
As a child I liked the movie Tron and now think it was ahead of it's time.
It was good enough I saw it once with my father when it came out and again a week later when my friends went to go see it.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Tsubakixv I thoroughly enjoyed it, I think the issue lies in peoples nostalgia but also the uncanny valley faces lol.
I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, loved Tron, a cult classic... Then saw Legacy in the IMAX theater and was blown away! Way better than the original Tron but love them both, still watch them both...
Really glad you did Tron
awesome upload
I was born in 1976, so Tron was a big part of me growing up
I like the old one especially the gaming puns.
Love Tron still to this day. It's a classic.
The new Tron certainly has an unbeatable cyberpunk look that inspired a generation of aesthetics.
I wish there was a tutorial for a Tron's flashback hairstyle.
MR H Reviews I really enjoyed your first endeavor outside the Alien /Predator stories, your Tron review was pretty good, thank you! lol
@jacenstarhunter8988
7 жыл бұрын
+Mr H Thank you for your Ellen Ripley lore yesterday I was blown away by it, extremely fascinated, excellent! lol
i love tron and tron legacy. When i occasionally watch the first tron i do it with my mind and eyes of the 80's. i don't think the younger generation can appreciate it the way i did back then.
mr.h!! do more of these!!
@MrHReviews
2 жыл бұрын
Sure, I'll waste hours on a video that barely anyone watches .....
Tron and Legacy are both brilliant. Aside from the uncanny valley stuff w/ the CGI in Legacy, I feel like it's a near flawless film. Edge of Tomorrow, Tron Legacy, and Captain America The Winter Soldier are the only films I will watch in full any time.
I enjoyed it, I thought the cartoon really helped flesh out more of the story really sad it got cancelled. I feel like Disney should hand it to a studio that can really give us the Tron we know and love fair treatment
I want more mr h !!! awesome!
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Creative channel more to come! Hoping to ramp up to two videos a day in honesty. Just need to work out how I'll do it lol
well done user nice move, may Tron live on forever
wow, this was a great surprise! awesome video.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+The Gaming Don :) Mr don! Glad you liked it man! A franchise that is unfortunately greatly underserved on youtube, thought I'd show it some love :)
@DonCritic
7 жыл бұрын
You did a brilliant job Mr. H, I look forward to see what other franchises you plan to do
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+The Gaming Don :) currently writing another video right now that I think will be fascinating for people!
I would love to see another Tron movie like legacy but with how Rinzler coming back as Tron and see how he would come back to life and how he would help flynn rebuild to chaos that Clu destroyed. It is really sad to see Tron die, really wish Tron could get rid of the brain wash and help the team get to the portal but I think Clu made sure Tron wasnt able to unbrain wash himself.
Great to see you delving into the world of Tron. I really liked Tron Legacy, and the spin-off prequel cartoon show, Tron Uprising. I think it's a massive shame that there won't be another Tron movie anytime soon, as they laid some intriguing plot points in TL, particularly with Cillian Murphy portraying Dillinger's son. I can appreciate your comments about the original Tron - it is a classic, yes, and it is a bit ropey in parts, yes, but is a massively ambitious movie, for the time.
@bckroobnzi141
7 жыл бұрын
Andrew Jamieson The geniuses (sarcasm) at Disney thought it would be a great idea to make a reboot.
I remember Tron Legacy seeing it on a bootleg copy that my friend got, it was awesome!! So how come you don't have any more Tron videos?
I think the creators of the movie did a great job with the design. I totally agree with you they kept every vehicle from the first movie with the same shape, but in amodern design.
I GROW UP ON TRON, LOVE THE NEW AS WELL
I love your voice, consider me subscribed
I feel bad for tron
I really hope there will be a Tron sequel.
Branching outside of AvP...I like it...I like it a lot! :D And choosing Tron...thumbs up. Can't wait to see what's next.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Charlie Bicho indeed I am :) I have a fair amount planned for videos :) so fingers crossed theres some stuff you enjoy!
Dude Tron!!!! So much love Mr. H!!! I was so bummed when Uprising got canceled. I watch the original every Christmas.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+kilrasha77 glad ya enjoyed it :)
I loved the visual asthetic to the new movie as well as the panoply of quality music and sound effects. Getting Daft Punk was one of the best ideas and indeed the day the film came out I had already purchased the soundtrack it was so good. I felt like nostalgia added to but didn't diatract from the story. I only wish they had worked David Warner into the story, even if just a cameo, as he is very good talent. I figured given what he had been up to with the MCP he would have at least been mentioned.
yea i liked tron legacy alot, super unique are style to me, never seen anything like it, plus i like the story...in 2017
I fight for the users!
This should have been a remake instead. Tron is too bad ass to not have his story retold in this style
I loved this movie so much
Tron is my favorite charater i am sad though cause he has a sad death
I loved it. Especially the new bikes. The set designs were fantastic. I just wish more people were still playing the online multiplayer game, which does a great job of capturing the feel of the lightcycle combat. Also the costume design was sweet. I thought the story had a bitter sweetness to it that made it rise above usual dumb sci-fi fare. As for people obsessed with nostalgia, remember that nostalgia is not as good as it used to be :D
Tron isn't unwatchable. I watched it properly for the first time like 2 years ago and I loved it.
@TheAlienGangster
3 жыл бұрын
Some of us like it, like you and me. You have to be really forgiving.
Tron Legacy was a visual and musical masterpiece. IMO the Daft Punk soundtrack was BY FAR the best soundtrack ever made for a superhero movie. The cinematography and special effects were also a league in its own, especially for 2011. The storyline left much to be desired though. Overall, I am one of the few who will say Tron Legacy is my favorite superhero movies despite it's storyline flaws. If a 3rd installment can be made, I pray that the storyline improves along with continued strength in the soundtrack and visuals.... that would be spectacular and I hope would push Tron into the mainstream
nice video, i love this movie! you are becoming my favorite channel now.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+john Gavin ah man, some kind words!
@johngavin3180
7 жыл бұрын
Mr H Reviews, no worries. Just keep making these awesome videos, if you are willing to take requests i would love to offer some.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+john Gavin always willing to dude! What did you have in mind?
@johngavin3180
7 жыл бұрын
Mr H Reviews maybe judge dredd? Since you started with tron, an old movie i love to watch from time to time, i wouldn't mind if you did another old movie that was cool
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+john Gavin I have thousands of old 2000ad comics so I do plan on covering judge dredd :) from that perspective, and If you like old movies just wait for tomorrow!
Loved tron leg.
Very smooth Commentary my Brotha. You should announce or do voice work for Movies or Commercials.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Leslie Porter its an avenue I'm attempting to get into :) thank you Leslie
I know most things about tron but my dad is the one who is a really big fan of the tron movie.
Not gonna mention Tron: uprising? I feel it added quite a bit to his character
The original Tron I found very confusing, I've seen it probably 3 times and had to resort to wikipedias overview of the plot to understand what was going on. Its a film i wouldnt care to watch again. Tron Legacy, on the other hand, i found very enjoyable, I loved the updates to the grid, it had a solid story and fun new characters with extremely pleasing CGI. Its not a movie for everyone, but ive seen in probably 5 or 6 times and i hope we can get a Tron 3 sometime.
I'm a Tron here ... you're right the re-imagination of Tron makes the original one hard to watch with all digital changes but it has a charm and at the time it was cutting edge; I think when we came to Legacy we got initially thrown straight into a 'what the heck' and had to try and do a bit 'gap filling'. But like anything the tech moves on and when it comes to Legacy as you say bring what we like from the original and then brings it back up to date and in essence you could say it's recoded itself. I like both..I even have the Legacy Sound Track...something not always possible back in the day For the user!
nice choice!!
@kennethmartin8715
7 жыл бұрын
Rick and Morty!!
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Kenneth Martin: homeless in Houston thanks buddy! I'm working on the Rick and Morty stuff, not sure it'll translate well into my usual way doing videos though?
mr. h every time i hear you talk it reminds me of maxwell (colin salmon) from avp 2004.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+rone 41 lol I'll take it as a compliment :) I think
@rone4166
7 жыл бұрын
Mr H Reviews lol
To de-metaphor the grid and Tron, Tron is effectively a combination of a firewall and a product called MQ on the mainframe. MQ is used to pass information around (Message Queue) (www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/ibm-mq) Tron in the first film would have been the MQ interface the MCP (In many ways, unintentionally an overzelous version of CA7 scheduler + MVS) would have been forced to use to move data around. Tron's resiliency is in fact a metaphor in that regard to MQ's secure transmission ability.
Tron lives!
I believe I got actually introduced to the TRON-Universe properly when I played Tron: Evolution right around when Legace came out. The whole concept of the grid and the visual style of Tron Legacy are really fascinating to me. I usually like cyberspaces or similar concepts the most when they are tied into larger science fiction universes and Tron really shaped the way I imagine those nowadays. Personally, I think it is a shame we never actually saw the villains of this franchise succeeding in leaving the grid into the real world. It would have been absolutely awesome to see the whole concept of the Grid being turned upside down by programs roaming the real world or entering other systems.
@LoyaFrostwind
4 жыл бұрын
The MCP was already deep into world politics and economy back in the '80s. Flynn shut him down. We're all lucky that Flynn developed the Grid on a private server.
Can you please do, The Chronicles of Riddick? =)
Every time I see people referring to the thumbnail as Tron I get pissed off. It's name is Anon, and it's the protagonist of Tron: Evolution, a video game that came out as a direct prequel to Tron: Legacy.
Disnay lore points out the crazies.
this channel will always be bad boy ^^ voice of a god
Tron is perfectly watchable
I have seen both in theaters several times - I love it more than Star Wars. Am in the process of building a custom modular based on this series
I really liked Legacy. More than most I think. I've recently re watched it and took in uprising. I never really saw it as a bad movie. Maybe not good, but decent and defiantly in my wheelhouse. I think it failed to take its audience seriously. It didn't care to challenge them with deeper plots and character developments. Overly simplified. But, Tron is truly an original Science fiction. I love the idea of life in a digital space. What Kevin Flynn called "bio-digital jazz". Not AR. Not VR. But a new substrate for reality. Its an incredibly original idea that inspired so many good sci-fi films and stories. I always thought "the matrix" was the love child of "Tron" and "The Terminator".
It would be so awesome if we could just get an ending movie for Uprising. I'm sure it would generate enough interest in new toys and comics and possibly get us a new live action movie. There is SO MUCH that can be done with the Tron universe.
Tron is a classic.
I love both films and this review and your comment on the original being almost unwatchable is very reasonable.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+RagingRivoth Cooper not to slate it, as I love it. Its just a comparison by modern standards
@Kouh_Sijaed
7 жыл бұрын
Mr H Reviews same here it's a great classic with a fun cast of characters.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+RagingRivoth Cooper lol I got a lot of flack for that comment
Just keep in mind that all the work that went into making Tron pushed computer generated imagery to another level and eventually resulted in the graphics we have today. I'm glad I don't rate a movies watchability by the quality of it's FX according to todays standards. Tron was cutting edge at the time by contrast The Brother Grimm which came out it 2005 has worse cgi than Jurassic Park which came out over ten years earlier. One of the reasons the FX in Tron hold up is because the Cyber World that is portrayed does represent the capability of computers of the time and the world would evolve as computers become more advanced.
I loved both films! In fact as I write this I'm wearing a "Flynn's arcade" t-shirt that arrived in the post yesterday. The pacing of the first film is slightly slow by today's standards, but the story as a whole still stands firm and really lit up my imagination as a child. Tron legacy was a great reintroduction to the franchise, it had minor flaws with the whole uncanny valley part, but once inside the grid it worked out well, and really improved upon what I loved. It's a shame that Disney decided that because "Tomorrowland: A World Beyond " lost so much money it would be more cost effective to just do animations or live action versions of its classics.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Neil Craig agreed! Disney took a miss step but should persevere with tron, its a superb universe and rich for story telling!
it's mad.. I have never watched tron....Maybe I did as a kid but not took it in... I will be watching it now tho.. Cheers Mr h
He fights for the Users...
I love Tron and wish it were continued...and personally..I beleive if there were a new Entry, Tron would live, moreover Sam Flynn and Quora would possibly have a offspring, a User/ISO program hybrid which would be something...interesting.
Did you ever watch TRON Uprising? I'd be curious to see a followup to this with how he was presented there.
well.. technically... Troy just fell. since he DID crash and sunk. An is still there now. Does leave room for another chance to get the movie series right. Since most the heroes survived and there's plenty room in cyberspace for ANY new or old villain in some form to come back. Seeing that it hints at a whole other universe of massive proportions existing in cyberspace
After Playing KH2 it’s sad to see that Tron died
love Tron ..with the BLACK HOLE, one of fav sci-fi. Mr H u should go ballz deep into that gem as well.
@MrHReviews
7 жыл бұрын
+Galvatron Marduk I plan to :)
@jackcrow9736
7 жыл бұрын
Galvatron Marduk Ah yes Anthony Perkins, Robert Forster, and Ernest Borgnine. The black hole is a great classic scl-fi
You should make a video about who wins in a fight Tron vs Neo.
He fights for the USERS!
it was a great film
Why am I getting so many Tron videos in my recommended?