When I used coal for heat ,many times I found coal with small twigs in it ! How did that happen ?

Coal comes from my Christmas stockings.

@sandman9390

3 ай бұрын

😂🤔....well, that may be one place it is found, but not where it originates😂

@THEL0G1CAL1

3 ай бұрын

🤣😂🤣

@jeffreyyoung4104

3 ай бұрын

@@sandman9390Depends on how bad he is!

@sandman9390

3 ай бұрын

@@jeffreyyoung4104 🤔good point 😅

@garyfrancis6193

3 ай бұрын

Correct. You must be a major source of it.

just love the ministry God choose Steve Austin for, to thoroughly disprove "uniformitarianism" and strengthen our faith in Gods inerrant word. My fav geologist, bless you for spreading his message

I've been to Mt St Helens many times. There are many other geological formations there that support a world wide flood and the evidence it leaves behind that can be seen all over the world.

@lawrencedodd1736

3 ай бұрын

There is no geological formations that support a global flood. There is archaeological evidence, linguistic evidence and geologic evidence that supports localised flooding following the ending of the last ice age.

I so appreciate Dr. Austin, and the way God uses him to confirm biblical history. Much of the world does not want to know this, however those who are seeking have had stumbling blocks removed due to his work and presentations like this. Thank you !

@TheErik249

3 ай бұрын

There is no confirmation here. This is an echo chamber at best. To become scientific consensus you must present your evidence to all of science. When you're scientific evidence stands up to the scrutiny, And no one else can prove anything. That will disprove his hypothesis, Then it becomes scientific theory that is accepted by science. You are simply proving what happens when one group of people Pat each other on the back and ignore the other groups thoughts and opinions. I am not a liberal. I do believe in god. But I also acknowledge geologic time scale and evolution. What we all agree on right now might not be the truth and can very possibly be disproven in the near future. We wouldn't want to second guess our lord, Would we? We must always make room for everybody's thoughts and opinions. Especially when it comes to a subject like this. Agreed?

This dovetails with Dr. Wise's theory of the continent sized floating mass of hollow trees. Thanks for sharing!

@chrismessier7094

3 ай бұрын

what?! i just saw this after writing about Walt too XD

@tonyputman3398

3 ай бұрын

@@chrismessier7094 Sorry, my simple mind can't understand what your point is...

@chrismessier7094

3 ай бұрын

@@tonyputman3398 i was just like, wow! we both watched the video and our comments were about Walt Brown :)

@tonyputman3398

3 ай бұрын

@@chrismessier7094 Who is Walt Brown? I mentioned Dr. Kurt Wise.

@chrismessier7094

3 ай бұрын

@@tonyputman3398 =O i just squinted and saw it"s Wise not Walt XD Dr. Brown is the absolute genius behind hydroplate theory (HPT)

I have worked in a coal mine. The irony is that coal fossils I have ever found stayed intact unless sunlight hits it.

@briansturges2658

3 ай бұрын

I know the comedy routine your UN is based on even though I'm only 57. I wish there were a website where I could see pictures of your fossils. I've heard of tree trunks stuck vertically through layers of coal.

@pruost

3 ай бұрын

@@briansturges2658 what does it all mean? 🤔 I know dinosaurs are hoax, and I ve collected some weird idea about what petroleum indeed is, or at least what it is not, but what's behind the coal thing? ¿

@dangeary2134

3 ай бұрын

@@pruost I’ve been keeping track of this for a while. Best way, I think, to test this theory is to find a flooded quarry, and begin filling it with wood chips. Once it’s up to the level of the water, let it percolate like that a few years. Cover it with earth if any sort, and let the fill on top press the water out and compact the organic material. Keep adding until it’s up to the original level of the land, and wait a decade. Do a test bore to see how it’s going every few years. I think the results would be surprising. As far as the oil goes, there are massive amounts of carbon in the crust and mantle. I have a theory, just a theory. Get some water in the mix, add heat and pressure. No real escape for the water, so at certain pressures and temperatures, it breaks down to hydrogen and oxygen. The carbon links up with the hydrogen, and that’s all oil is, just different size molecules of it. Oxygen probably would go into whatever else is around it and create oxides. We have lots of oxides of nearly everything. Not too far fetched, I hope. Now, for those huge structures in the mantle that seem to be solid? Educated guess is that they are huge carbon crystals. So, because it had nowhere else to go, it simply has grown over the eons. Best guess, and that’s just me.

@GoldenBoy-et6of

3 ай бұрын

@@pruost dinosaurs are one of the few things that aren't a hoax

@thomastrain7311

3 ай бұрын

@briansturges2658 yes there are examples of trees stuck vertically in coal seams in Alabama and west Virginia. I got to see an example in west Virginia last year.

I can't get over how much this guy looks and sounds like John Wayne! 😮

God is merciful to let us see how things happened historically in Genesis

@kathleennorton2228

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I can't help but to think that this mountain eruption was meant to show us many things and prove things about the great, epic flood.

@Pos3id0n.

3 ай бұрын

@@kathleennorton2228 Like?

@godngunclinger

3 ай бұрын

@@kathleennorton2228 God is awesome

@godngunclinger

3 ай бұрын

@0n. Did you watch the video? 1. transforming organic materials into coal does not take millions of years. 2. the earth is not billions of years old. 3. there needed to be a flood 4. the flood was global, not a local flood 5. God destroyed the environment because of sin, we can expect judgment for sin 6. there was only one ice age. 7. climate change is not man-caused, GOD did it Shall I go on? There is more to say...

@edpodellis

3 ай бұрын

@@godngunclinger No ! Please stop !

Thank you for sharing. :)

A give-away that this hasn't formed over millions of years is the fact that one does have several layer of coal under each other in the same area. No reason for this pattern if it just happened over and over again within millions of years.

@solentbum

3 ай бұрын

Equally of course, why, if it all happened as a result of one great flood are there several levels of coal in the same place? Surely the 'coal' would all be deposited at the same time , and fairly evenly across the entire surface of the world.

@briansturges2658

3 ай бұрын

​@@solentbum We have to remember the Earth didn't suddenly transform into today's environment the moment the ark landed on dry ground. There were great transitions happening after the upheaval for many hundreds of years to even millenia, mostly in regions where people were not yet migrated to.

@solentbum

3 ай бұрын

@@briansturges2658 Either the Ark story is true , and gives us a time line of around 6000 years, or 'geology ' as a science is true with its millions of years,etc. You can't have it both ways. My vote is for geological evidence of tens/hundreds of millions of years.

@user-nc9hb4pf9x

3 ай бұрын

The global flood of the yunger dryas was @20,000 yrs ago....and yes, the earth is billion s of years old....

@metapolitikgedanken612

3 ай бұрын

@@solentbum There is no reason to believe that the flood was a homogeneous even or would have to be one. Point being that the coal seams are flood deposits definitely. And that there is reasons to believe that this was from one event.

awesome =D Steve was ahead of the curve, like Walt Brown

Thanks guys for your dedication. These bits and pieces of truth are worth more than gold.

Love this revelation of where coal actually comes from!

Which proves there was a world wide flood!

Great work guys. And hey Steve where you in Oregon when st. Helen erupted?

Thanks for these guys! 🙏🙏🙏

The Peat Fields here in Eastern Michigan growing tubulars' underground fruit, that run for about 10 miles by 30 miles on Eastern side of Irish Hills are from the bark of a large mat of floating trees, lots of very fertile Black Dirt from there to about 60 miles west on the Western side of Irish Hills? The Black Dirt and Peat Fields always brought to mind being made by decomposition of plant materials in large quantities in a relatively small area surrounded by sand, gravel and clay.

@bookofrevelation4924

3 ай бұрын

Known for summer spontaneous fires starting underground. Lots of Natural Gas Wells run North and South for about 20 miles wide and 40 miles long on both sides of the Northern end of the Irish Hills. In my Junior High School Future Farmers of America class, I took 1st place in Soil Judging Competition at State Capitol in the spring of 1979.

TY.

I've seen this interview years ago. Not sure why KZread suddenly showed it to me again? Interesting to be sure.

Would you make a video about how oil was formed? Thank you.

@chidy9699

3 ай бұрын

Scientists have a great understanding of how oil forms. So good that they can accurately predict where to find it. So accurately that a multibillion dollar a year industry depends on their predictions.

Interesting ..

Similar to creating biochar. Interesting stuff.

Thanks

The volcanic lake model is one possible mechanism, but it's hardly the only one.

Playing music why i'm trying to listen makes me say goodbye and on to a video without music.

This explains how coal could have formed quite quickly and why coal is found in certain places, but doesn't seem to explain why coal is found in other places like in mountains. I was thinking about that watching this video and I thought about what the Bible said about the waters beneath the waters being released. That the fountains of the deep releasing their waters. Then it all seemed to make perfect sense. When God sent the flood, there was a great upheaval in earth and water came up from land as well as the lakes, river and oceans. The water of the flood didn't only come from rain from the sky.

@ITPalGame

3 ай бұрын

Psalm 104

@WDBsirLocksight

3 ай бұрын

the springs of the deep opened up but I wondered if the "waters below the heavens"/"gathering of the waters...seas" describes one big mass of water in Genesis I wonder if rivers, streams came during the "abating phase" of the flood or "abating phase" of the Great Ice Age/Glaciation....🤔

@danielhanawalt4998

3 ай бұрын

I would guess rivers, lakes and stream were present before the flood. More and larger ones after the flood. Some evidence has shown some came as a result of ice age as well. A documentary I watched on Epoch TV showed how large stones were found in the north west US in places they shouldn't have been, suggesting the ice age pushed the stones there and when the ice receded the stones were left in those places. I'm not clear much how the ice age came about, but I think it was after the flood. Volcanic action because of the earths upheaval releasing the waters of the deep, thus producing a cloud of ash blocked out much of the suns light. Good question. I'm in no way an expert on such things, so mostly speculation. @@WDBsirLocksight

Brilliant

Not just volcanic. Any sort of silting or other sedimentation that collects on the top of the peat layer. Even additional peat layers will compact the lower levels. As alluded to at the end of the video, I wonder if there is any carbonization occurring right now at the lower levels. It'd be interesting to dig into there in another 30 years and see what the bottom layer looks like and also what's beneath it, further down in the lake bed.

I wonder if Ben Davidson from suspicious observers theory of catastrophe cycle can work in to this idea of the coal beds not being prehistoric but very recent?

Wow... if only floating log mats were bigger than a grain of sand in its totally.

@bookofrevelation4924

3 ай бұрын

Tree growth before Noah's Flood was how much greater than afterwards? Do you think tree growth today can be used to estimate or hypothesize the quantity of floating and sinking tree materials during and soon after Noah's Flood? Imagine walking all over the Earth on floating mats of trees for years to explore the layout after The Flood, mapping it in Book of Jubilees that Noah recorded as it was divided to his 3 sons' families.

Ever seen or heard of mussel band coal.?

Really fascinating. I would never have realized that there was a lot of timber in the water after such an eruption, although it is very easy to understand 😂 and that there is direct evidence that such a situation creates coal 👏😁👏. But to others who see this. Don't forget that there are other types of charcoal, such as those made from other plant materials.

When I was 13 I swam in Spirit Lake (like 1974)

I think the energy industry has done a pretty good job on finding gas oil and coal, what methods do you think that multi billion dollar a year industry relies on?

Stone Cold Steve Austin

Renewable energy

My father was a coal miner and sometimes I could see fossilized ferns and other plant impressions in the coal. Just saying...

@pruost

3 ай бұрын

What does it mean? 🤔 They form shorter than we are told?

I had heard that some of the trees had sunk soon after falling into the water, and that it appeared they were starting to petrify, due to the high mineralization of the water. Does the water have a high mineral content? And would that aid wood bark and other detritus to turn into oil?

@jeffreyyoung4104

3 ай бұрын

@@dennistracy1535You do know about subduction? Subduction is a geological process in which the oceanic lithosphere and some continental lithosphere is recycled into the Earth's mantle at convergent boundaries. Fancy words to say what used to be on the surface is drawn into the earth and transformed with heat and pressure, and makes coal beds and oil from the material taken underground.

Dr. Austin, what attempts have been made to investige previous layers of bark? The ash sediments are proof of many eruptions in the past. First, how many have been its eruptions, and second, how many eruptions have caused depisition of bark layers?

This video does not provide any evidence for the claim that coal deposits are not millions of years old. That is simply stated with no evidence. We have dated coal deposits using Biostratigraphy, Radiometric dating, Stratigraphy and Paleomagnetism and they are between 2.6 and 300 million years old. Even if we found younger coal, that would not change the ages of all the coal already dated.

@WDBsirLocksight

3 ай бұрын

Stratigraphy and paleomagnetism are wonderful tools but are still prone to biases in the hypothesis. In much the same way half lifes, vegetation decay therefore rate of mineral seepage including the rate or direction of the earth's magnet declination or earth's magnetic field could have assumptions related to the "steady-state" or the "amount of change".

@pyotrberia9741

3 ай бұрын

@@WDBsirLocksight, I am not sure what you mean by "biases in the hypothesis" but I think you are saying that we cannot be 100% certain that science provides correct information. That is true but if you look at the predictions that science has made, which were subsequently proven by observation plus all the technologies in the world which are based on scientific theories, it is clear that science has produced far more correct information than incorrect. The bible, on the other hand, has so far produced zero correct theories on how the natural world works.

@WDBsirLocksight

3 ай бұрын

@@pyotrberia9741 Hasty generalizations aside..... The Bible is an anthology. Anthology is a collection of poems, plays & discourses. For the Bible it means much the same but has different names like pericopals, parables, poetry, wisdom and epistles. Really it serves as both a history book and a life manual of sorts. Obviously, searching for 100% literal scientific accuracy in the Bible is a fool's errand yet some examples of scripture sync nicely with science and do merit a closer look. Keep in mind the Bible reveals its world through the eyes of the common man. God’s Word is the lens through which we see his world. Likewise, the way we see God’s world through science can affect how we understand his Word. Also remember its super important to tell when narrative and description is metaphorical, ironic versus fact or scenario with real world factual outcomes. Discourses are often factual based on reality. Yet we can have "true fiction" as "based off real life events". Authors sometimes - and the good detailed ones - have actually been there like Robert Ludlum or Dominic Bosco who uses real world interviews to paint a picture of tortured souls at a 90s institution and the parents who tried to "right the system". SOME EXAMPLES Much of the dietary laws say in stories mentioning Daniel or Israelites in general being apart from the surrounding culture follow healthy eating principles. So much so after Daniel challenged the king of Babylon and exhibited the outcome of a special Israelite diet he was promoted to vice regent of Babylon. Its almost as if some of the cleanliness and isolation principles have been ripped straight out of "Mandell, Douglas, and Bennett s Principles and Practice of Infectious Diseases". Refer to "Modern Science in the Bible" about OT regulations and science. For more specific scripture analyze Ecclesiastes 1, Amos 9, Job 36 & Psalm 135 that hint at the water cycle. We have a vague reference from Homer in 1000BC and more clearly described by Bernard Palissy (a hydraulics engineer) in 1580. Job 26 and 28 speak about earth's georeference. Jeremiah (33) uses "countless" to express the awe and wonder of the heavens. Only later could we define the extravagant detail of how many bodies: 100 billion galaxies, there could be approximately 10^22 (ten billion trillion, or a 1 followed by 21 zeros) stars. 1 Chorinthians 15 uses "different splendirs" as a way to differentiate intensities of galactic bodies. Mathew 24 touches on cosmology of how earth and tge universe will "eventually pass away". Read more at the fascinating Grunge article "Parts of the Bible that Science has Confirmed to Be True" Monsters of the deep like Leviathan, Jonahs wale descriptions of animal kingdom in Kush by Samson are just a few general examples of biology. King Solomon the wisest person to ever live talks about trying "everything under the sun" and "everything is meaningless". He touched on philosophy, emo culture, death metal and Sarter in one fell swoop. King David looked at porn and envied another wife, even killed that wife's husband. He had everything and lost it. But what he did do is confess all of it to God. Real world consequences ensued though causing him to lose his blessing, tenure of kinghood. The greatest of all the foreshadowing and literal oracles here in the Bible called prophecies predicting with astronomical precision a carpenter turned rabbi who turned the whole world upside down by words and not sword, who changed time itself to be referenced to his death unknowingly to others (except tge apostles) becoming the Savior of the world. It's really mind blowing but you'll have to dig further than my 10 minute post here. If humans are fallible there is something that is familiar to humans yet supersedes human design. If that's true then there will never be disagreement between God’s two books (Scripture and nature). Often passed off as a non-sequitur both Bible as meant as scriptures and science are both based on truth. - I am talking about "a priori hypothesis" - hypothesis in which presupposition can imbalance the logic of probability. One can use all the tools they want yet if the "a priori hypothesis" includes presupositions based on faulty logic here in say "irrelevant appeal to tradition" (always have been and always will be) that will imbalance the inductive outcome.

@WDBsirLocksight

3 ай бұрын

@@pyotrberia9741 Hasty generalizations aside..... The Bible is an anthology. Anthology is a collection of poems, plays & discourses. For the Bible it means much the same but has different names like pericopals, parables, poetry, wisdom and epistles. Really it serves as both a history book and a life manual of sorts. Obviously, searching for 100% literal scientific accuracy in the Bible is a fool's errand yet some examples of scripture sync nicely with science and do merit a closer look. Keep in mind the Bible reveals its world through the eyes of the common man. God’s Word is the lens through which we see his world. Likewise, the way we see God’s world through science can affect how we understand his Word. Also remember its super important to tell when narrative and description is metaphorical, ironic versus fact or scenario with real world factual outcomes. Discourses are often factual based on reality. Yet we can have "true fiction" as "based off real life events". Authors sometimes - and the good detailed ones - have actually been there like Robert Ludlum or Dominic Bosco who uses real world interviews to paint a picture of tortured souls at a 90s institution and the parents who tried to "right the system". SOME EXAMPLES Much of the dietary laws say in stories mentioning Daniel or Israelites in general being apart from the surrounding culture follow healthy eating principles. So much so after Daniel challenged the king of Babylon and exhibited the outcome of a special Israelite diet he was promoted to vice regent of Babylon. Its almost as if some of the cleanliness and isolation principles have been ripped straight out of "Mandell, Douglas, and Bennett s Principles and Practice of Infectious Diseases". Refer to "Modern Science in the Bible" about OT regulations and science. For more specific scripture analyze Ecclesiastes 1, Amos 9, Job 36 & Psalm 135 that hint at the water cycle. We have a vague reference from Homer in 1000BC and more clearly described by Bernard Palissy (a hydraulics engineer) in 1580. Job 26 and 28 speak about earth's georeference. Jeremiah (33) uses "countless" to express the awe and wonder of the heavens. Only later could we define the extravagant detail of how many bodies: 100 billion galaxies, there could be approximately 10^22 (ten billion trillion, or a 1 followed by 21 zeros) stars. 1 Chorinthians 15 uses "different splendirs" as a way to differentiate intensities of galactic bodies. Mathew 24 touches on cosmology of how earth and tge universe will "eventually pass away". Read more at the fascinating Grunge article "Parts of the Bible that Science has Confirmed to Be True" Monsters of the deep like Leviathan, Jonahs wale descriptions of animal kingdom in Kush by Samson are just a few general examples of biology. King Solomon the wisest person to ever live talks about trying "everything under the sun" and "everything is meaningless". He touched on philosophy, emo culture, death metal and Sarter in one fell swoop. King David looked at porn and envied another wife, even killed that wife's husband. He had everything and lost it. But what he did do is confess all of it to God. Real world consequences ensued though causing him to lose his blessing, tenure of kinghood. The greatest of all the foreshadowing and literal oracles here in the Bible called prophecies predicting with astronomical precision a carpenter turned rabbi who turned the whole world upside down by words and not sword, who changed time itself to be referenced to his death unknowingly to others (except tge apostles) becoming the Savior of the world. It's really mind blowing but you'll have to dig further than my 10 minute post here. If humans are fallible there is something that is familiar to humans yet supersedes human design. If that's true then there will never be disagreement between God’s two books (Scripture and nature). Often passed off as a non-sequitur both Bible as meant as scriptures and science are both based on truth. - I am talking about "a priori hypothesis" - hypothesis in which presupposition can imbalance the logic of probability. One can use all the tools they want yet if the "a priori hypothesis" includes presupositions based on faulty logic here in say "irrelevant appeal to tradition" (always have been and always will be) that will imbalance the inductive outcome.

@WDBsirLocksight

3 ай бұрын

@@pyotrberia9741 Hasty generalizations aside..... The Bible is an anthology. Anthology is a collection of poems, plays & discourses. For the Bible it means much the same but has different names like pericopals, parables, poetry, wisdom and epistles. Really it serves as both a history book and a life manual of sorts. Obviously, searching for 100% literal scientific accuracy in the Bible is a fool's errand yet some examples of scripture sync nicely with science and do merit a closer look. Keep in mind the Bible reveals its world through the eyes of the common man. God’s Word is the lens through which we see his world. Likewise, the way we see God’s world through science can affect how we understand his Word. Also remember its super important to tell when narrative and description is metaphorical, ironic versus fact or scenario with real world factual outcomes. Discourses are often factual based on reality. Yet we can have "true fiction" as "based off real life events". Authors sometimes - and the good detailed ones - have actually been there like Robert Ludlum or Dominic Bosco who uses real world interviews to paint a picture of people at a 90s institution and the parents who tried to "right the system". SOME EXAMPLES Much of the dietary laws say in stories mentioning Daniel or Israelites in general being apart from the surrounding culture follow healthy eating principles. So much so after Daniel challenged the king of Babylon and exhibited the outcome of a special Israelite diet he was promoted to vice regent of Babylon. Its almost as if some of the cleanliness and isolation principles have been ripped straight out of "Mandell, Douglas, and Bennett s Principles and Practice of Infectious Diseases". Refer to "Modern Science in the Bible" about OT regulations and science. For more specific scripture analyze Ecclesiastes 1, Amos 9, Job 36 & Psalm 135 that hint at the water cycle. We have a vague reference from Homer in 1000BC and more clearly described by Bernard Palissy (a hydraulics engineer) in 1580. Job 26 and 28 speak about earth's georeference. Jeremiah (33) uses "countless" to express the awe and wonder of the heavens. Only later could we define the extravagant detail of how many bodies: 100 billion galaxies, there could be approximately 10^22 (ten billion trillion, or a 1 followed by 21 zeros) stars. 1 Chorinthians 15 uses "different splendirs" as a way to differentiate intensities of galactic bodies. Mathew 24 touches on cosmology of how earth and tge universe will "eventually pass away". Read more at the fascinating Grunge article "Parts of the Bible that Science has Confirmed to Be True" Monsters of the deep like Leviathan, Jonahs wale descriptions of animal kingdom in Kush by Samson are just a few general examples of biology. King Solomon the wisest person to ever live talks about trying "everything under the sun" and "everything is meaningless". He touched on philosophy, emo culture, death metal and Sarter in one fell swoop. King David looked at porn and envied another wife, even killed that wife's husband. He had everything and lost it. But what he did do is confess all of it to God. Real world consequences ensued though causing him to lose his blessing, tenure of kinghood. The greatest of all the foreshadowing and literal oracles here in the Bible called prophecies predicting with astronomical precision a carpenter turned rabbi who turned the whole world upside down by words and not sword, who changed time itself to be referenced to his death unknowingly to others (except tge apostles) becoming the Savior of the world. It's really mind blowing but you'll have to dig further than my 10 minute post here. If humans are fallible there is something that is familiar to humans yet supersedes human design. If that's true then there will never be disagreement between God’s two books (Scripture and nature). Often passed off as a non-sequitur both Bible as meant as scriptures and science are both based on truth. - I am talking about "a priori hypothesis" - hypothesis in which presupposition can imbalance the logic of probability. One can use all the tools they want yet if the "a priori hypothesis" includes presupositions based on faulty logic here in say "irrelevant appeal to tradition" (always have been and always will be) that will imbalance the inductive outcome.

I have a theory that if all elements of oil in a large “vat” plus a little heat, some pressure, we could cause oil to form and it be cleaner

Carbon 14 stumps long earthers every time

@sciencerules2825

3 ай бұрын

How so?

@slartibartfazt4853

3 ай бұрын

Asking creationists to back up their claims stumps them every time.

Billions of years.😂😂

I worked in Ky coal...they say trees were hollow...kettle bottoms were...Shale, sandstone, the same as the roof??? Or How, What🤔🤔🤔

All that future paper floating about....

Interesting coal facts: The total amount of coal in the world 2000 years ago is estimated to be roughly 2 billion tons. The current coal reserves on the planet are roughly 1.15 billion tons. At the current rate of consumption the world's coal reserved are expected to be completely depleted by the year 2100. To produce 2 billion tons of coal took around 60 million years during the Carboniferous Period. To produce 2 billion tons of coal in a *one year* Flood event would require enough vegetation to cover every square foot of the Earth to a height of over 2 miles. It simply didn't happen that way.

@markrademaker5875

3 ай бұрын

From Creation to The Flood was about 2,200 years. I am thinking that quite a bit of organic matter would have been made in that time. Therefore that, i think, should be put into the equation.

@sciencerules2825

3 ай бұрын

@@markrademaker5875 Actually it would be 1600 years (6000-4400). We're also told it didn't rain before the Flood so how did all that vegetation get buried?

@markrademaker5875

3 ай бұрын

@@sciencerules2825 Science/Knowledge Rules, Are you thinking the MT is more accurate than the LXX? If "Yes." then, please, give me your basis for your thinking. Polystrate fossils are found in the Carboniferous/coal layer. I think it is foolish to think that these trees etc. that have become polystrate fossils in that layer(and upon further study these so-called polystrate fossils may be like the so-called dinosaur fossils which are actually dinosaur bones with soft tissue) would stay vertical without rotting for millions or even many thousands of years. Maybe do an experiment with a chopped down tree, let's say, a 50 foot pine tree or even a 20 foot Sigillaria-type plant, let's see if it will stand vertical by itself long enough to get buried and then stay intact without rotting for, let's say, a mere 1,000 years...nothing like a scientific experiment rather than merely a mind experiment, yes? My reading leads me to believe that the Carboniferous layer can not be, as you say, 60 million years old. In your first comment you merely made an assertion, what are somes evidences you use to justify your assertion. I gave to an evidence, polystrate foosils Please give me your Scriptures that either explicitely or implicitely teach us that it did not rain until The Flood (Granted, God could have watered the earth differently in our past.). Romans 3:4 Thanks.

@markrademaker5875

3 ай бұрын

@@sciencerules2825 Science/Knowledge Rules, Are you thinking the MT is more accurate than the LXX? If "Yes." then, please, give me your basis for your thinking. Polystrate fossils are found in the Carboniferous/coal layer. (By the way, carbon dating says coal is thousands of years old not millions.) I think it is foolish to think that these trees etc. that have become polystrate fossils in that layer(and upon further study these so-called polystrate fossils may be like the so-called dinosaur fossils of which many are actually dinosaur bones with soft tissue) would stay vertical without rotting for millions or even many thousands of years. Maybe do an experiment with a chopped down tree, let's say, a 50 foot pine tree or even a 20 foot Sigillaria-type plant, let's see if it will stand vertical by itself long enough to get buried and then stay intact without rotting for, let's say, a mere 1,000 years...nothing like a scientific experiment rather than merely a mind experiment, yes? My reading leads me to believe that the Carboniferous layer can not be, as you say, 60 million years old. In your first comment you merely made an assertion, what are somes evidences you use to justify your assertion; i am willing to dialouge on this. Please give me your Scriptures that either explicitely or implicitely teach us that it did not rain until The Flood (Granted, God could have watered the earth differently in our past.). Romans 3:4 Thanks.

@sciencerules2825

3 ай бұрын

@@markrademaker5875 Sorry but the Bible isn't a science text. Not yesterday, not today, not tomorrow.

It comes from Blood and Nucleophilic Substitution.

Why didn't they harvest all of those millions of trees while they had the chance

Why leave them there going to waste?! If nothing else they could be used to make pulp and paper.

So coal could be a renewable source of energy

Why don't they clean up that lake ?

The logs are abraded not "milled".

"Where Does Coal REALLY Come From?" About 200 feet under ground.

This is probably true. But this is the important but. It took millions of years to form coal.

It is feasible that a massive log jam could create a localised situation of a large amount of wood that could become fossilised and eventually turn into coal. But, the most extensive coal beds are thick and dispersed across the world. Fossils below, in and above these coal layers identify 'swampy' conditions in which forest like conditions were present. The thickness of deposits identifies long time periods of accumulation. The locations of these coal beds aligns with the evidence of continental drift and previous land masses being in more tropical locations. So, yes a small localised coal deposit could be formed but the evidence is that the vast majority of coal beds around the world have not formed in such a way. So, nothing to do with 'The Flood' and not in any factual way supporting Biblical text.

Since this video lacks so much information, I'm not sure what he is trying to prove

This is not how coal is foamed, there will never be any new coal

An alternative to this is that when God created the earth, he created it with coal and oil already in the ground.

Coal comes from under ground,and from the sides of railroad tracks...happy hunting!

Is this a comedy channel?

@sciencerules2825

3 ай бұрын

It's literal Genesis Biblical apologetics. Hard to tell the difference. 🙂

@HereIam-rg3vy

3 ай бұрын

@@sciencerules2825 agreed 😁

Sad. Why can't you accept reality?

@markb3786

3 ай бұрын

They accept reality, but there are a lot of dollars to be made off of those who don't

@barryfoster453

3 ай бұрын

@@markb3786 The reason I was drawn to he video is that I think coal is fantastic. A piece of coal encased in a cube of plexiglass sits in my hallway. All coal is circa 325 million years old, which is amazing in itself. But we know now how it formed (because the dead wood didn't get eaten by fungi until fungi developed a way to absorb the dead wood). Weight compressed it to a mass of combustible material which is another thing about it. It has the highest carbon intensity of all fossil fuels - anthracite being the 'best'. It is the cheapest fuel on Earth, and we should be burning it! Particulates are an issue, but they can be dealt with. Thinking that coal ISN'T 325 million years old is just puerile.

Isn't chemistry wonderful...but, you know, its all a question of electromagnetic force being applied in universal ways. The higgs field is induced to release the electrons and protons, taking up new ones according to electrical influences. What if Almighty God is an electrical being...a living voice over every activity and behaviour pattern of the higgs field. Then we could say that Jesus, who teaches exclusively about our spiritual nature, could well be the way, the truth, and the life.

I expect there are various ways that organic material may have been deposited in layers underground. One other theory I read recently was that all of the world's coal was formed at about the same time (maybe 300+ million years ago) before the enzymes that can digest dead plants evolved. Comments?

@Pyr0Ben

3 ай бұрын

The textbook story is this: Coal is dead plant matter that's been heated and squished. Multiple generations of forests and swamps slowly accumulated this dead matter as peat, and over millions of years formed coal. This process effectively ended when some fungus or bacteria "learned" the ability to digest the materials in this peat, preventing the degree of its formation necessary to form more coal. Is this a feasible model? 1) You would have to justify how you know the age of the coal. Scientists have ways of figuring that out, all of which rely heavily on assumptions they weren't there during coal's formation to prove. Keep in mind that the textbooks tell us the "Carboniferous era" was roughly 3-3.5 MYA, but actual coal dates can vary wildly. But for the sake of argument I'll grant you the millions of years. 2) You have to explain how some organism can simply "evolve" the new ability to digest a multitude of complex chemicals. This has never been observed. We can see organisms acquire the ability to digest new things whenever an old gene is unlocked, generally by environmental factors. In other words, the code to do so was already there in the first place; you would have to show how it could generate itself from scratch via random mutations without destroying its own code's integrity in the process. This is absurdly unlikely, no matter how much time or benefit-of-the-doubt you're willing to entertain. 3) You have to justify how large bogs could reasonably sit for thousands and thousands of years and accumulate peat without interference. Surely over such a course of time, fires, geologic events, or droughts would bury or destroy the materials prematurely before they could turn into peat. Keep in mind that it takes about 10 feet of peat (peat feet, you might say) into 1 foot of coal, taking the numbers for granted. We have coal seams 100's of feet thick. I'm willing to grant that it may be theoretically possible, but there are quite a few variables you have to dodge. 4) You have to show how the peat could realistically be buried sufficiently in time without degrading. To produce enough heat and pressure, it needs to be buried at MINIMUM a few hundred feet, and that's lowballing it. It couldn't have been buried slowly over millions of years, or else it likely would have dried out, or petrified, degraded, anything but turn into nice pretty connected coal seams. It is much more likely that it was buried quickly in a catastrophic event. I'm almost willing to grant that all of this is possible, but a Flood model makes much more sense of coal. The video does a good job of demonstrating this using observational science. It doesn't rely on unproven hypotheticals like radiometric ages or evolution. It can explain how mountains of plant matter could be quickly buried by tons of sediment very quickly. It even makes better sense of many coal geologic formations, with large coal seams overlapping each other with a thin layer of sediment in between.

Since the first three creative days had no real way of counting a 24 hour day ,undeterminable time periods are involved .....plenty of time for God to make a storehouse of plenty for Humankind .....if we hadnt fallen into sin ,we would have used everything properly .....BUT DONT BLAME GOD ....

From my x wife’s cold heart!…just kidding….no….im not.

Good try but no

Saying "I think it can" is an opinion & doesn't prove anything ! This video should read " We're still not sure where coal comes from" !

I watch ONE video with a cute evangelical girl and suddenly I'm swarmed by creationist vids. Did they fit both "Geologist" and "Noah" in the same sentance? I guess this isn't a science channel...

So god makes coal and god is volcano so god has gone back to his roots 😁

Gods Word is Amazing! He put a verse in Gen 10:25 that affirms a POST ice age effect of melting land and sea ice. The ocean levels rose to a point, in Peleg's lifetime (Born: 2226 BC Died: 1987 BC), that the LAND masses were DIVIDED. You could no longer walk on dry land to other Continents. There are ancient shorelines with hewn timbers at the bottom of the Black Sea. The Mediteranean s levels rose to a point of overflowing into it. There are ancient shorelines in the North Sea that have human artifacts on them. In Hebrew, the word "earth" in verse 25 is "erets" and is in the old testament over 2100 times. It means EARTH, terra firma, Every time. It is the same word in Gen 1:1. " In the Beginning, God created the Heavens and the EARTH " SAME WORD- "erets" Genesis 10:25 "And unto Eber, were born two sons. One was Peleg, for in his day, the EARTH was divided" Eber was a great-grandson of Noah's son Shem and the father of Peleg, born when Eber was 34 years old, and of Joktan. He was the son of Shelah, a distant ancestor of Abraham. Psalm 102:18 Let this be recorded for a generation to come, so that a people yet to be created, may praise the Lord

More of the "narrative " being exposed by truth!

Creationists love this "it can be done quickly in a lab." OK, but the question is how long does it take in nature.

@doltBmB

3 ай бұрын

it's astounding how little regard you "science" types have for actual experiement and proof

@jeremy472

3 ай бұрын

A matter of days. But the key is it must have the correct chemicals. These are only found in volcanic sulfur deposits. Which, if you're familiar with the flood model, eruptions were constant throughout the ring of fire. The combination of that with sediment pressure produced the coal.

@greenguitarfish

3 ай бұрын

Under the right conditions, it can occur quite rapidly.

@slipstream4572

3 ай бұрын

as Dr Steve Austin has shown, just a few decades not requiring thousands let alone millions of years... It all points to a global flood, not "uniformitarianism" rather one global catastrophic event approximately 4.5k years ago

@winniecash1654

3 ай бұрын

Not a gazillion years, and not from dinosaurs.

The pit we mine in Australia has about 7 coal seams the bottom seam is about 300 meters from the surface and is 270 million years old,anybody with half a brain who has ever looked at a mine like this would say the coal is millions of years old not thousands.

@bookofrevelation4924

3 ай бұрын

Why would you believe that?

@gregoryt8792

3 ай бұрын

Use both halves and consider the following: Did you know pictures, tapestries, pottery and stone carvings of sauropods, stegosaurus and other dinosaurs have been found all over the earth which predate the 1840 dinosaur fossil find? Did you also know that the magnetic fields rate of deterioration of the planets has been measured and shown that they cannot last millions of years? Watch - What does soft tissue in dinosaur bones mean for evolution? Dr. Kevin Anderson Secular scientists are misleading you. Or watch - Wheres the evolution? Milk to meat production There are only two possible explanations as to how life arose: Spontaneous generation arising to evolution or a supernatural creative act of God.... There is no other possibility. Spontaneous generation was scientifically disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others, but that just leaves us with only one other possibility... that life came as a supernatural act of creation by God, but I can't accept that philosophy because I do not want to believe in God. Therefore I choose to believe in that which I know is scientifically impossible, spontaneous generation leading to evolution. George Wald To reiterate, Secular scientists are misleading you. Or consider watching - Origin: Probability of a single protein forming by chance

@TheErik249

3 ай бұрын

@bookofrevelation4924 Why would he not? The video we're watching is presenting a "hypothesis" that has not been proven. Do we see a coal seam under Spirit lake? No, we do not. But, do we truly know that all of our coal seams on Earth formed between 359 million and 299 million years ago in the so called Carboniferous period? No, we do not. It's a theory. An educated guess. In science, almost all of the information is theoretical. We allow anyone to present any new information challenging theories or hypothesis. But you must present information that can be backed up with evidence that validates your hypothesis. When a better explanation is validated, it is presented in a paper to the science journal. It is examined by all. When their is consensus of a majority, then it becomes an accepted theory. But that explanation will also be challenged in the future when acceptable evidence is presented to the consensus. For right now... This log bark theory is a hypothesis. It is my scientific opinion that aged log bark at the bottom of a lake is going to become top soil in the form of muddy silt. If anything... I think that what exists at the bottom of spirit lake right now will become silt stone in the next couple of million years.

@briangleason4435

3 ай бұрын

@@bookofrevelation4924 because like he says he has half a brain

@bookofrevelation4924

3 ай бұрын

@@briangleason4435 glad he didn't compare himself to someone with two brain cells.

Bahahahahaha. How adorable!

As a follower of Jesus Christ and a former coal geologist, there are huge gaps in this theory. Most coal beds are very old, about 300, to 400 million years, give or take a week or two. The Earth being old does not take glory from God but only deepens the mystery of His creation.

@markrademaker5875

3 ай бұрын

Share some of these so-called gaps. Thanks.

@WDBsirLocksight

3 ай бұрын

Earth being old depends on either literal 24hrs days or hebrew calendar days regardless it actually may take from the glory as the words implicated in the controversy are God-breathed.

Misinformation

Coal is formed when dead plant matter submerged in swamp environments is subjected to the geological forces of heat and pressure over hundreds of millions of years. Over time, the plant matter transforms from moist, low-carbon peat, to coal, an energy- and carbon-dense black or brownish-black sedimentary rock. That's where coal really comes from. 😊

@gardencornrobber

3 ай бұрын

Assuming! And you are how old?

@sandman9390

3 ай бұрын

Or so the powers (on earth) that be tell us to believe 😉....but we do know with some certainty that it does not fall from the sky 😂

@jeremy472

3 ай бұрын

Nope. You do know we can create coal in a lab right? It only needs a few chemicals, all of which are available from volcanic gases.

@chrismessier7094

3 ай бұрын

lol XD can you point to *one* instance of where this is currently taking place, i.e., _the present is the key to the past_ ?

@user-hh3cz1km6h

3 ай бұрын

If you can prove that, do it. I don't know what, if anything, you know about science, but the YEC theory of rapid formation of coal, oil, and fossils was proved decades ago. Peat become lignite, which is not a truth coal. To form coal, it needs a lot of calcium added, and then compression. As scientists in my family say, trust science, but scientists are all too human. To too many scientists, truth is relative. Evo is divided between two main groups, long ages and short ages. Short-agers call long ages the dark ages and rightly so saying long ages are needed because that way it takes blind faith to believe.