Hello dream team ❤, what an interesting topic and I grew up wondering the same thing about the ratio of women vs men at church. Women being oMama bomthandazo, and involved in everything obaba not present. Another thing is the ratio of men in church for us single ladies who want to marry. Abekho o-brother 😅. Thank you guys for this instalment. I loved it 🥰

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comment! Men come as you are❤️❤️

@remimautjana5622

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheMakhsLol mara Mr Makhs re Teng Neh and church women with their "types" "looks" etc and if I don't fit in the category ke single until I go get someone from the same line of church outside mine, then they would look at you like you made sin 😅, can you advise them go re when do they let go of zoning us in the Brother zone and how do they make turn to see us as guys who wants to marry them before we go out there...

@remimautjana5622

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheMakhsand too Mr Makhs I would like to pose a question, where can I dm you for it😅??

Someone once said "if you're too big to serve ;you're too small to lead" and guys we need y'all hey😊the church needs men who can submit,serve and lead

This is a subject that is close to my heart. You guys hit some good points. We need to make community with men happen in church. We cannot emasculate them at the door. We need to stop having the women worshipping the pastor. What man wants to watch his wife serving and glorifying another man while he is present? Not only is that degrading to the husband who comes into church, but it's also idolatry. Pastors and male church leaders, worship Christ and serve others. Wash other men's feet by being willing to spend time with them and bear their burdens. And redefine what a man is by example. A REAL man is someone who has integrity, does what is right and is faithful when it's hard, when he doesn't want to and when it's not convenient.

I love what Mr Makhs said. Our men in the church need to stand up and go and fish for other men. It can't always fall on the women. To add to your points, we also need to do away with this tendancy of putting Pastors or certain elders on a pedestal and honoring them more than other men. It makes a lot of men feel unappreciated and feel neglected.

@Tkapz

Жыл бұрын

This is so true, we see pastor as the holiest of holiest lol Jewish and Islam actually put their men on a pedal, hence the you see alot of men in those religions, leading their families

@remimautjana5622

Жыл бұрын

Danko!... When my pastor said honor your husband's more than me, I felt it, he said my wife Honours me enough, when he said that to the congregation, things changed for better, we do honor them as parents in the Lord but I saw how women made their own husband/men more and as a man it changed my view in leadership.

#comeasyouare. This was beautiful I loved all the points 🙌🏾💕. Yesterday I came across this TikTok couple talking about women are mostly prayer warriors and it should be men who are prayer warriors than women because prayer is like going to war, men go to war. The husband mentioned that as a husband who is the head of his household he will never allow his wife to “out pray” him and he believes that’s how households should be.

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

We love this so much! May God raise more men like that🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️

12:19 I really love that you presented God in this way. most of the time as men, this is the relationship we have with God because we seek Him most in these situations, war, struggle, sickness. So when the message of who God is stresses too much on the soft side, we struggle to find a connection with that sometimes. We need the God that brought down the walls of Jericho. We need the God that sent pestilence to the Egyptians to free the Israelites. We need to know of that God as we protect our families from physical and psychological threats.

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your input Larry! We love it when the men comment!🥳🥳🥳

@NoloMamps

Жыл бұрын

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@LarryNgetich

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMakhs Thanks for the great content. Much love from KE 🇰🇪.

@azilemkiva2172

Жыл бұрын

Amen❤

God presented as all grace and not a warrior and that can affect the way men see God. Never thought of that. Good point. And in church we sing love/worship songs lol

We as men long for discipleship from other Godly men and thats one thing that lacks in the church. Hence we tend to run to the world on issues like how to be a husband, father or even just being a man, whereas we should be seeking what God says about us.

The Makhs I hope you guys are good. Its been over a month and your absence is felt😢. Praying the Lord be with y'all continually ❤.

😊❤ I love how Phetola will always do a mini dance whenever Lerato does his portion of the intro, lol very contagious ❤

Awesome conversation. Standing in prayer to meet and marry a man in Christ. 🙏🏽 #ComeAsYouAre

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾

Thanks!

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Aunty Kat!❤️❤️

#come_as_you_are .I really love that context that Mr Makhs brought to the conversation about broers breaking their hips and interestingly I always found the story of Jacob so wild. The broer was unstoppable and stiff-necked to say the least. However got backed him so much. For the longest time i have always wondered how the broers who are deep in the Lord relate with God, cz my perspective is so feminine you know. When im overwhelmed i be there weeping before the Lord and eish. So yeah these stories of men of valour in the bible need to be told more you know. The God who oepened up the earth and swallowed up disobedient families. Maybe, just maybe it would be relatable to the men.

Yes to the altar call please because some instalments really bring a lot of conviction and an altar call would really be befitting as a full stop

You guys have become part of my life..I have been waiting

First of all Phetola is beautiful and secondly what a great instalment!!!

Great point, Ntate Makhs

Love the conversation needed for such a time as this

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

#comeasyouare ❤ As a pastors kid having being born and raised in church I love how well everything was articulated ❤

Thank you dream team

Men you heard it if you want to win in this life be realistic about Christ and you will make great leaders 💪❤

#Comeasyouare and Mr Makhs kannete we give you your flowers while you are still for being a present Dad🔥🔥

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much❤

What a great conversation. Loved it❤and love the hoddies 🥰👌

Hello Dream team . We are here! Phakati inside!

Miss the girls and the vlogs! Love you guys from Moz 🇲🇿

36:22 out here breaking hipss fam 😂😂😂 Lord bless me now That part was good,being ourselves in God ☄👌let's move for sure

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

It’s real out here😂😂😂

Dream Team💚Thank you for the love. This is definitely a topic to be had- We tuned in! 🔌🔥 you look so amazing!

#come as you are!

#comeasyouare I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. I must say, it took me a long time to understand that I don't have to be a robot, that being in Christ does not delete my personality.

Im intrigued by all your installments Continue and may God bless you abundantly❤❤❤!!

Advice to Mr Makhs, have a pocket note book so you can write down the points that come up while Mrs Makhs is making her point, cause we want those points cause they are from Christ 😊

@motheowalerato701

Жыл бұрын

Great advice ❤

I so much loved how you’ve addressed this very important topic. You crossed my mind today as I was catching up with my KZread subscriptions and came across this video. I’ve been having conversations with my friends and colleagues on this topic for some time now. And you two have articulated the issues so well. We need men in the church. And the church definitely has a role to play because I feel that too much pressure is put on women e.g. the frequency of seminars for women/young girls is incomparable to those organized for men/young boys. Who is teaching the men/boys? I pray that the Lord transforms Christian men so that they can submit to Christ and lead according to his will. I don’t usually comment on KZread videos but this has touched my heart. May God continue to bless you, your beautiful family, and your Ministry. Greetings from 🇹🇿.

# Come as you are...💚💚

We miss your conversations but we also understand that you may busy in this season. God bless your family 🌼.

My favourite installment yet. It’s so crazy, God has been speaking to me about the very same thing even though I’m a young women. Pray for men 😊

Hello Dream Team… I love how you always give each other compliments 😍🥰💕

Funny that's was my summary ....'come_as_you_are ' even before you guys said the #. Yes we loved this Family

Wow interesting points for sure!

#Come as you are .. ❤❤❤

#ComeAsYouAre Thank you for having this conversation because yoh! You really said what needed to be said.

Lovely conversation , thanks guys

the tight pants 👖, I still think we as the church should be modest, both male and female, we really do not have to provoke each other because of immodest dressing

#ComeAsYouAre

Great topic. I think my addition and food for thought would be that my challenge with Men's ministry at my church was the generational Gap but that was a reflection of our Old leadership in age. And since the transition and a younger pastor taking over it has been revived and more relatable

@Victoria-vt9vp

8 ай бұрын

What are Christian men's throughts on pre marital sex?

I like what Lerato is saying about representation of God to men, this is actually realistic

What an interesting topic and so right, my grandfather did go to church but when he passed away my uncle took over but not at church at dropping my grandmother and fetching her, my dad also used to drop my mother off, i asked my partner the other day forgetting it is one of those longer service churches, he was so mad that we here for almost 4 hours ( a bit funny though), he never came with me again even though i told him its the normal service hours this time, so i honestly think most men just love touch and go's , i dont know just speculating i would also love to know.

Powerful installment❤❤❤❤

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much❤️

Im just here to say,dating "church men" issa struggle yoh. Apology for the generalisation.My experience left me shoook😢😢 And i didn't meet him in church cos we didn't go to the same church,BUT yhooo bathong!!!

This Kenyan 🇰🇪 follower loved this conversation!! How you captured the dynamics in the Church for men today who are often grappling with....how to" be".in a modern Church that appears to cater more to women than men. Pastor idolatry....I can relate to the "odd" Christian men ...I came across in my childhood..

#ComeAsYouAre What an interesting topic, loved it

#Come as you are!

#come as you are

Thanks

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Valentine🌸❤️

@valentine_b_ndlovu

Жыл бұрын

🙏🏽❤️❤️

#COMEASYOUARE❤🥂 Good one guys

Hello Dream team… Hello Family

Very interesting subject matter 👌🏼👌🏼thanks Mrs Makhs’ homegirl ❤ I agree with all your suggestions; mine is als Pastors shouldn’t be too pompous and expect our brothers and husbands to submit like runners to them, it turns men off.. one church I know, without excluding others that might be doing the same thing that I am not exposed to; HRM… Chloorkop, led by Ps Mathebula 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼the pastor is a gent amongst majors, the men relate easily to him, their men’ conference they do‘boys’ things, not fluffy stuff and I realised that men churching elsewhere attends HRM men’s conference just because of the’men things’ they engage in. Other churches can take a pattern there since it is not close to every man. Thank you for this conversation family ❤❤

Yho I love you guys Soo much. You add a positive contribution to my marriage

#come as you are I love how you brought the idea that men can be Christians and still be manly; powerful!

Why am I only coming across this channel, love it...........

Is this the video that had a pic of you guys on the steps? Saw that but was busy at time of notification.

#come as you are. Love you guys💖

#ComeAsYouAre💚

#Comeasyouare. Loved this👌🏼🔥

Those hoodies are so soo dope ❤💯

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

The most beautiful and comfortable❤

After loadshedding ngila 🤞🏾💖💖💖💖

#come as you are❤

#ComeAsYouAr3 Loved this installment ❤❤❤

Loved this episode 🥹❤️

I loved this conversation ❤. #comeasyouare

Hello Dream Team❤❤

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️❤️

#ComeAsyouAre ❤

I had also wondered why Where are they and how do they really perceive God Actually in my observation men do not show up in most activities, events, weddings and so forth.

Come as you are. ❤

I loved every bit of this conversation, it's a beautiful one. I am actually gonna listen to it again. Thank you guys ❤️

#Come as you are. ❤

This topic was wholesome, really enjoyed it. Thank you❤️

This was such an incredible conversation guys. Wow!

Naze nathula ke bangcwele. So quiet beloveds ☹️ Miss your content. ❤️

#Comeasyouare #SoldoutforGod❤❤

And as single ladies kuthwa we must be equally yoked...njani?? When men don't want God 😢

@nkanyi37

Жыл бұрын

@pamela the ones in the church and single are players of note* they have any hun in and outside the church Ayi kuningi

@lizwimasango6991

Жыл бұрын

@@nkanyi37 😂😂😂💔

@thephoenixlady

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂And abamfuni nyani, abazami no zama, I always say this Women have tried to close the gap and are putting in the work to get jobs, start business for financial stability of the home so that if anything happens to our husbands and they can't work, we will be able to carry the family financially. What happens if women can't pray for the family?

@gkgee5659

10 ай бұрын

Ah exactly my thoughts; we need Jesus to intervene!

Bathong I miss you. It's been a month. I hope you are all well and may God continue to bless your family.

@s.pvimbelo3338

Жыл бұрын

Yho 😢 babuya nini ? I hope they are good too.

Lerato's English is so advanced and great. I think I need my dictionary at this point 😂

❤❤❤my two favourite couple how i love u❤❤ thanks you for the love u show us at all times ❤️ i was turning 31 years on the 21 st of July please wish me a happy belated birthday

Molweeeni,anisebahle, Our Makhs

#comeasyouare

#come as you are 💯🤞

That “raba rabo” 😂😂😂

I have a request - can you do more topics about, how to gain success in terms of 💸💰 related topics and work- career and social skills? Thank you.

Come as you are❤❤❤

#comeasyouare!

What’s up gang gang hey Fam

Come as you are ❤❤❤❤

#ComeAsYouAre ❤🤍

How I missed you 💕

@TheMakhs

Жыл бұрын

❤❤❤❤ we missed the Dream Team! ❤😊

I really hope lots of men are exposed to this content, we single God fearing women would also like to be persued by men who more God fearing than us. #ComeAsYouAre

Hello dream team. 🥳

#Comeasyouare....... this was beatiful

The "enemy" is not a reason to all issues. Dwelve into nature of men and you will understand. Fact that she mentions "toxic masculinity" shows church has made men weaker. I was a youth leader for a few years, i would never go back, i can never allow other people to have dominion over me. The church must understand men, i am still Christian, fiance is a prayer warrior, but will not go to church. Understand why young boys who go to university never come back and you will understand how to keep them.

#ComeAsYouAre 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

Come as u are❤