Phile Ivey wasnt cheating, the casinos allowed everything he did. Ivey just outplayed the casinos within their own rules.

@neftron

7 ай бұрын

@ginaparker-langley you aint a judge. He wasnt cheating

@artful1967

7 ай бұрын

wrong

@Abraham-Kaykski-Steinberg

7 ай бұрын

he did not break the rules, therefore he did not cheat. disgusting that they would not pay him his winnings.

@gmatsue84

7 ай бұрын

Playing exploitative is still cheating even when both parts agree to it. If you got scammed by some company because you didn't know what you agreed to had some exploit, and you lost substantial money, you'd sue, no?@@Abraham-Kaykski-Steinberg

@OneEyedJack01

7 ай бұрын

@@ginaparker-langley both parties, Ivey and the Casinos, agreed to the terms. At any time, the casino could have said no. it is not cheating if Ivey has information they do not so long as that information is available to anyone that investigates thoroughly. If the casino had done their due diligence, they could have discovered the edge problem. That is incompetence on the casino's side, not cheating.

That is such an insult to call Ivey a cheater. He hustled the biggest hustlers in the world. I think the word you're looking for is hero

@justjeff386

2 ай бұрын

Casino's have rules governed by law that have specific odds that definitely favor the house. But that is what a player is expecting to play against. If you exploit a glitch to change those odds, it's cheating. That's not a hero move, that's a scumbag move. Casinos exist. If casinos and gambling didn't exist, Phil Ivey would probably be an assistant manager at Jack in the Box. While you can argue that gambling is bad and that casinos shouldn't exist, at least a regulated industry you can know what you're getting into.

@2AForever-wi8yj

2 ай бұрын

@@justjeff386 the casinos screwed up they altered SOP to accommodate a whale its their own fault and they should have caught the crap he was telling them to do. but to call it cheating nope. if i.m playing bj and i ask the casino to expose boths card before i and they do it i'm not cheating

@natecrosman7732

2 ай бұрын

@@justjeff386 Meh, context matters. To me, cheating other individual players out of their own money vs exploiting an edge against a casino are two different things. I could accept that it is "cheating", but not in the same categories as any of these others in the video. Someone cheating other players at a poker table is a lot scummier than, say, realizing a few numbers are less likely to come up on a roulette wheel and using that to your advantage, or counting cards in blackjack.

@justjeff386

2 ай бұрын

@natecrosman7732 that's for you to decide. But it still shows his character which you can't assume wouldn't extend to fleecing other people

@natecrosman7732

2 ай бұрын

@@justjeff386 I feel like I can assume that, unless it's been proven otherwise. I don't assume card counters would just as soon steal from me, for example. It's a completely different thing. But fair enough.

I was disappointed when the court ruled in favor of the casinos on the Ivey case. The casinos agreed to the conditions without checking on their defective cards. Edge sorting is taking advantage of those defects the same way casinos wanting to exploit players' greed. The casinos should have paid Ivey and he should have never been sued.

@Zak-jt6nk

8 ай бұрын

ya it's a terrible ruling edge sorting is not illegal, however cheating in a casino is illegal. It's not really cheating when what he was doing they are using their brain and what the casino was willing to offer them to gain an advantage.

@branchtana315

7 ай бұрын

Yes. More people need to realize that what Ivey did was NOT cheating. He did not mark or alter the cards in any manner, nor did he use any tools to gain an unfair advantage over he casino. All Ivey was guilty of is being smart enough to take advantage of all the information that was legally available to him. The greedy casinos wanted his action so badly that they agreed to every one of Ivey's requests before hand. They weren't forced to do that, they chose to do that. The rulings were complete BS. The ruling basically allows the casino to freeroll someone like Ivey. Being an "Advantage player" does not guarantee you will win every session. Ivey could have easily lost millions during those sessions and the casino would have happily taken his money, even if they knew he was edge sorting the whole time. Then if Ivey wins, they got to call foul and the courts gave them their money back. The biggest crooks and thieves in the gambling world are the casinos themselves. With the millions in revenue that casinos generate for their jurisdictions governments though, courts are almost always going to side with the casino over an individual player. So in that regard, the court hearings are a fraud in the favor of the casinos too.

@cyclopsvision6370

7 ай бұрын

@@Zak-jt6nk The casino picked the playing cards, and supplied the playing cards. If the equipment they were using was defective, that's their problem, not Ivey's.

@Zak-jt6nk

7 ай бұрын

@@cyclopsvision6370 yes exactly what i just said if you read it, but ivy actually picked the playing cards and the casino supplied them.

@patchiebeaver139

7 ай бұрын

@@ginaparker-langley that is so wild haha that story just made me like him more

On the one hand, Barry was 100% at fault for not protecting his hole cards, but on the other Skillsrocks was also clearly trying to collude and get his friend to fold when he was beat. So good on the casino for banning him from any future events.

@tomemeigh5338

8 ай бұрын

His whole cards? Do you mean: As opposed to his partial cards? Or do you mean his HOLE cards? Which is it?

@LucianDevine

8 ай бұрын

@@tomemeigh5338 Yawn, fixed, go grammar Nazi someone else, it'll be just as boring there.

@mosesmoses8357

7 ай бұрын

i mean homeboy was legit leaning over his shoulder and looking straight down at his cards. hes a scumbag who was trying to cheat. hes lucky he didnt get shook the fuck up in the parking lot

@LucianDevine

7 ай бұрын

@@mosesmoses8357 That much is definitely true. He's definitely lucky he didn't catch an ass whooping in the parking lot.

@AngeloMantzios

6 ай бұрын

Is there a rule that doesn't allow you to look at another player's cards? Because Barry def didn't protect his hand at all. So shame on him for that. That said, should he be worried that people are going to do that in an organized, public event like that?

Bro the employee took 15k off HER STACK.. and he worked in the production room that had real time info of hole cards… what a blunder to mess up the most significant detail

@usernamesrlamo

7 ай бұрын

But he had been doing this to other players before this and was only caught because of the extra scrutiny and review of the tapes for the Robi-Garrett incident. It wasn’t a blunder, just irrelevant to the storyline he was giving. Despite hundreds, perhaps thousands, of hours of investigation, not a single shred of evidence has ever been produced against Robi. It was clearly an isolated crazy play and absolutely broke the soul of one of the biggest streaming stars in poker.

@jim0084

7 ай бұрын

The employee flipped out when Robi agreed to give her chips back to Garret and then took the 15k off her stack right before she gave chips back. It's certainly very suspicious. Either Robbi is the biggest idiot in poker for going all in on J 4 or she is cheating. The one thing she isn't, is a great poker player.

@SleezeJest

7 ай бұрын

It is crazy that after all this time, there are still Robi backers out there. They're like covid deniers, despite all evidence to the contrary, they persist. So much so that even some bloggers like Matt Berkley have been intimidated into qualifying there accusations, and waffle about how she "might, maybe,. probably" cheated. Meanwhile she gets a pass and plays in games regularly. It's insane.

@G0DofRock

6 ай бұрын

He was most likely helping her in exchange for taking a small amount of her winnings. Either that or it's a wild coincidence that she did this the same night he decided to steal from her.

@pizzaguy2959

6 ай бұрын

@@usernamesrlamo except everytime she plays now she plays completely different than those few stream games. Not to mention the employee never once took chips off someone else’s stack? Also the investigation was done internally with zero incentives for them to turn up wrong doing - can’t even trust they aren’t in on it

I think it's dangerous saying someone is a "caught cheater" when there's only speculation and zero evidence.

@cocainecarl4200

Ай бұрын

I don't think you understand what "danger" means.

@michaelmorales1602

Ай бұрын

@@cocainecarl4200 "Dangerous" is definitely the right word here.

@Vote_By_Mail

Ай бұрын

I think it's dangerous to confuse tf outta me with wrong graphics 0:23 secs in. Guess nobody else cares but F this channel imo.

@animeknowledge5048

Ай бұрын

​@@cocainecarl4200it is dangerous you can get sued

@Bsweet117

5 күн бұрын

Dangerous to whom?

No way you can have a poker youtube channel and not be able to pronounce some of the most popular player's names.😮😮

@brentfarvors192

8 ай бұрын

Most of these tools will narrate a stool passing if they thought it would earn ad revenue...At least he didn't do the "never ending prologue", in the beginning; Repeating everything 15 times in different phrases...

@iamamish

8 ай бұрын

A lot of these channels are run by people who aren't native English speakers, so they use AI to generate English voices. You can tell when they mispronounce common words or people's names.

@abyssal5948

7 ай бұрын

Also saying AK off suit is the best starting hand in poker...shame...

@LouiseStastny

6 ай бұрын

It's an AI voice over from text

@CyberInferno

4 ай бұрын

I was wondering that exact same thing...also common poker things are just described in weird ways.

Missed the part in the last one where she said she called because she thought he only had ace high, even though ace high would still have her beat 😂😂

@pokerbear7

8 ай бұрын

True!

@pokerbruh

8 ай бұрын

Pretty sure she thought she had J3 and should have just admitted she misread her hand.

@commenter6722

8 ай бұрын

Not having a clue isn't cheating. Why cheat only on THAT hand? It's a ridiculous notion that a group of cheaters, which is obviously the accusation, would pick such an obviously suspicious hand to cheat on when they could have picked and stolen so much more from a dozen less obvious spots. That was the WORST possible hand to cheat on in that way. And a cheater would never just hand back the money. I played 1-2 with a visiting friend last night. Calls like hers were happening every third hand. The ONLY reason people think this is different is because of the amount, and they assume no one would play at such high stakes who was fundamentally clueless, but it wasn't her money, just a very rich guy letting her play for free. And look at Garrett. How many millions has he lost over this? He had a nervous breakdown and threw away this opportunity over it? After all the money he was winning? Why wouldn't he keep his mouth shut, go to the organizers, and catch the cheaters in the act? The cheating idea doesn't make sense. I agree, she's not making any sense, but go watch her interviews. That's who she is.

@jigsaw3788

8 ай бұрын

​@@commenter6722stupidity at its finest!😂

@kevinclark-cn2mf

8 ай бұрын

@@commenter6722 she was 100 percent cheating, she is just a moron, she knew her cards and was terribly acting so she would be able to say she had a pair, obviously she knew her hand was good, the only thing I do not get is why she did not cheat on a stronger hand, which leads me to conclude she is just really dumb and terrible at poker. She changed her story so often since it did not line up ever with how she was talking, during the hand when she called she said she had a pair, then when asked about it she thought her jack high was good and no longer mentioned she had a pair, too much inconsistency, just a dumb cheater,

Ivey didn’t cheat. He asked for certain conditions and they were accepted.

@michaelneis

5 ай бұрын

casino mad they got beat at their own game lol

@BeeHash

4 ай бұрын

@@maxwellboyne2770 that isn’t the same at all. He changed nothing about them. He didn’t mark them, he didn’t hide something on them - nothing. He asked for certain conditions- where by the way the casino had the odds set to take all his money - and the casino said yes. Not at all cheating. It’s called “advantage play”. Which is exactly what the casino does to players.

@userac-xpg

4 ай бұрын

@@maxwellboyne2770 the casinos greed caused this situation. They cheat people every day, for once someone beat them using their own flawed equipment. That is 100% on the casino.

@h445

Ай бұрын

@BeeHash lol them accepting his requests doesn't make it not cheating, dumb@ss. if he'd made the requests and let the casino know it was because he wanted to read the backs of those specific cards in order to CHEAT, then they wouldn't have allowed it. really really stupid 'logic' by you.

@joshuathebuckeyeartistbarton

Ай бұрын

He did 🤡

Love it when cheater gets called out in front of everyone. No one wants to play with cheaters. The Phil Ivey thing was suspicious but these places could have refused his requests, if they were suspecting anything instead of being accommodating they could’ve refused, so they are also liable for their losses, especially when they think he cheated at other casinos.

Regarding the Robbie Jade vs. Garrett issue, you left out one really important factor. The employee was caught on camera stealing $15k in chips specifically from Robbie's chip stack. He didn't take chips from any other stack, just hers. It also happened *after* Robbie was coaxed into giving Garrett the $167k back to him. That's what made the chip theft doubly suspicious. At the time, people thought that this kid was in on the hustle, got worried that he wasn't going to get his cut (because she returned the pot money), and decided to take his payment matters into his own hands.

@userac-xpg

4 ай бұрын

whether she cheated or not, Garretts behavior is inexcusable. He accused someone of cheating and bullied them into giving him the money back with zero evidence. At first this situation seemed suspicious to me, but once I heard her talking afterwords it was clear she was just an idiot who didn't know what she was doing.

@marcoponce2461

4 ай бұрын

I don't know how she cheated. She called an all in on the turn, she was not favored to win, so if she knew what Garret had, the best move would be to fold. She made a rookie move and it paid off

@nitthegrit7544

4 ай бұрын

@@marcoponce2461 Except that it wasn't a rookie move. It's not a move that anyone would make regardless of their skill level unless they had some amount of information about where they were in the hand. Keep in mind too, that Robbie wouldn't need to know what Garrett's exact hand was. All she would need to know is whether she was "good" or not. We already know from her play history that while she may not be considered an elite player, she's also not a rookie. At that point she did have a history of playing in some medium stakes games, and higher priced tournaments. Someone at her level of play would definitely know not to just call off that amount of money with J-high in that position. The odds that she did this just on a "hunch" are incalculably small.

@POKERMIKE-1624

4 ай бұрын

​@@userac-xpgcorrect this people that think she still cheated like Garrett that to me is nothing but a cry baby who still has her money out of all of this she Gamble knew this from the beginning cheaters don't Gamble they cheat to win run twice the river if it's a chop or Garrett wins both he doesn't cry an call her a cheater for her to cheat she has to know the last 2 cards for river cards before they are delt and turned over and that is impossible as they debunked in the investigation so as I see it Garrett owes here back the money with interest and should pay for the investigation that cost over 6 Figures it's mind bogging a player at this level and polks that's his buddy as polk probably still believes cuz he's not to bright how they believe she was cheating even at that beginning it's absolutely sad it really is tc

@advertsadverts403

4 ай бұрын

The guy that stole her chips Also moved his desk in the office so he could see all the cards on the screen Of course the casino found no evidence they would be sued by everyone that ever lost money there

i been watching random pokemon content, so i thought this was called "when Poke cheaters get caught" lmao

Willfully peeking at another player's cards may not be cheating, but signaling your friend is definitely cheating,

I think it’s absurd that casinos can make up all the rules to their full advantage yet people can’t exploit loopholes. Casinos are the real crooks

These transition words and phrases go crazy

Ah yes, Scott SAIVAR and Daniel Ne-grain-yu

@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants

2 ай бұрын

So is it a humans voice or an AI bot that is reading text?

@kipz

Ай бұрын

@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants it's obviously AI lol

So for the last clip, do they only "suspect" her of cheating, or did she just out bluff him and win? I'm not too quick when it comes to stuff like this so maybe some clarification would help?

@whichDude

Ай бұрын

No evidence was ever found. However steps were taken later for security reasons. The production room displays could be seen by almost any employees who look at it. It has since changed to a single guarded display only accessed by director. Players already put their electronics away, but now they have to put personal items in signal blockers as well and go through metal detectors every break. So main suspension seems to be that she had some employee that could see production room sending her signals. Her big outfit and jewelry could definitely conceal device that could help her (chess butt beads theory).

@edgark4808

Ай бұрын

If you have a lot of money, and dont understand a lot of poker, you would call the All In. So the call make sense. She is not a pro, she is a player, staked by her husband. The call was Ok, no cheating. Bad played and lucky, but a tipical play for a fish. Basic rule: Dont bluff a fish, they never fold. As she is bankrolled by her husband, she is a average loosing player, if she were a winning player, no stanking by husband would be necessary. So she is a fish. They never fold. No cheating here.

"You can have the money and the hammer or you can walk outta here, you can't have both" -DeNiro

@sludge8506

4 ай бұрын

His buddy didn’t get a choice.

how do you call yourself a poker channel and mispronounce two of the most well known players in the world????

@pokerbear7

8 ай бұрын

You must really love poker too, thanks for your feedback! 👍

@pokerbruh

8 ай бұрын

3 players at least. Daniel, Scott, and Garrett. To be fair most people pronounce Garrett's name wrong but it's Adelstein and rhymes with fine.

@MashaRistova

8 ай бұрын

It’s a lazy clickbait channel

@myOhmy566

7 ай бұрын

Scott Sajver 😂

@myOhmy566

7 ай бұрын

@@pokerbear7 is that your way of saying, "I know I messed up but at least I got a comment out of it and that's all that matters"?

Good video very entertaining you will do well with video like this

Robbi didn't just have a bluff catcher. She had a low-card bluff catcher. Meaning even if she caught Garrett bluffing. Most likely his hand was still going to beat hers.

@mrkennyfernand

7 ай бұрын

But did she cheat? he didn't explain how she cheated! did she pick at his cards? did she change her cards? how?

@alexh8613

7 ай бұрын

@@mrkennyfernand Did I say she cheated? There are countless ways to cheat and seeing that an employee was busted later that night, the possibilities of her cheating are high. But nowhere in my comment, did I say that she was cheating

@brw3rd

7 ай бұрын

@@alexh8613 How does an employee stealing chips have any bearing on the hand, in which she called before the river? Her play was horrible and definitely negative EV. But, I do not understand how anyone could think that there was any cheating. Had the river been a club, everyone would rightfully ridicule her for calling all-in with J high.

@notrab13

7 ай бұрын

The most likely way she was cheating was that she was getting some kind of signal from the employee who ended up palming 15k off of her stack. The signal was probably something rudimentary like “good” and “no good” since she was still a dog going into the river despite being ahead of Garret on the turn. It was after she agreed to give Garret his money back from that pot that the employee thief audibly screamed in anguish (after learning that his cut of Robbie’s take had gone down by a lot) and then later stole from her stack.

@brw3rd

7 ай бұрын

@@notrab13 But, she called before the river. And, there were more cards than not that would improve Garrett's hand against her exact holdings. Had she called a river bet, there may be something there. But, there was still a card to come. Are you also asserting that said employee knew what would be the river card ?

Great content. First video? You deserve to have a million subscribers

@pokerbear7

8 ай бұрын

Preciate it !! More coming soon🌟

Anybody ever caught cheating should get a lifetime worldwide ban, period; and all of their assets that can be shown to have been made during and after the cheating seized. Let's say a player deposits $1000, and using RTA or other cheating methods, runs up a bankroll of $100,000. Then the player takes that money to the WSOP and makes $2 million. Even though they didn't cheat in the WSOP, should they be allowed to keep the money? I think not. It's ill gotten gains of ill gotten gains. Also, the damage that may have been caused to the players they cheated cannot be estimated. What if another player had been destined to win the WSOP that year, but was unable to play because they lost their bankroll to a cheater? The poker community needs to take a firm stand against this.

@christopheradorno4203

7 ай бұрын

i agree. at least for more severe cases.

Regarding Mike Postle, he was one of the friends of the person from Stones casino, and was present when the broadcasting equipment was set up, including transmission of the card data to the control room. He also participated in testing out the setup. It is presumed that somehow through the arrangement he got access to the live data from the table to his phone, possibly mirroring the desktop of the control room computer to his phone.

@Tony2Glock

24 күн бұрын

Possibly, and now that I've heard that explanation I'm gonna stop defending him as much. Because that would make a lot of sense. Especially him, pretty much only playing Stone and earning his entire notirity there. Used to think, well he's got a good feel for it. I play similar, knowing when to raise someone's bullshit. Sometimes I'll fold the nuts and muck just because I don't like gambling, I play poker. Thought he was a similar player but this changes perspective immensely.

@user-oe3sj8ml9e

14 күн бұрын

​@@Tony2GlockI'm with you. I thought to myself, they have no real. Proof but this makes sense. All he had to do was installing a mirroring app on the desktop and have it transmitted to his phone. Not hard at all. Explains why he only played at the Stone.

imagine going to jail in germany while a child rapist only gets 2 years.

Robbie looks like Chewbacca's daughter

Wow, casinos are known for cheating everyone who walks in, but once a gambler figures out an advantage they sue.

At the 0:38 mark, I read that poker commentators instead of being LIVE add their comments AFTER the game is taped and being edited for broadcast. It certainly makes the WITTY JABS and INSIGHTS seem less spontaneous and more rehearsed.

1:35 the fuck... PHONES ALLOWED?!! AMATEURS!! Not even pre-school tests allow that.

Trash. 1. Learn to pronounce names 2. What Ivey did was give a list of demands to multiple casinos that were met. They could have denied it at anytime. They new what was happening and only got mad when they got rolled. That’s 100% not cheating and his name shouldn’t be in this at all.

The whole Mike P thing. One thing I noted that nobody else ever seems to have is the fact that he only plays at the Stones Gambling Hall Casino. You would think if is was really that good and not cheating, he would take his incredible talent to Reno and Vegas and make millions rather than playing at a local card hall in Sacramento. He was only able to hack the table at Stones.

@mvprime8

Ай бұрын

Yeah that was the funniest part about the whole saga, poker pros would come there to play and got warned about Postle, and they were like "Who?". No one had heard of him, yet he was making these godlike plays and winning all the time. Yeah if he was actually that good, he should've taken his talents on the road and make millions.

About the first one. The game I play in phones are allowed but they have to be on airplane mode since ppl are around the table during the games and we don't want anyone sending texts to others what ppl have. And for other reasons like distractions. And on the second it's not cheating to look at ppl's cards they're not even hiding. I myself try not to even look and I have told many ppl their cards are showing, but it's still not against the rules to glance and if you see them use the info to your advantage. It's one of the most cut-throat games in the world. It's asking a lot for everyone to be ethical in every way.

@dondee5439

22 күн бұрын

Is an easy way to check if a phone is ON or OFF to call it to see if it acts like it is OFF?

I ain’t gonna Lie the J-4 call was probably the “WTF” call that truly made no sense at all !!!!

For that first guy, what poker room is letting a player keep their phone on their person AND OUT during active play? That’s beyond dumb

I was casually watching this video and realized that stones is the one by my house

Dude you pronounced all their names wrong. All of them.

if youre going to have a poker channel you should at least know how to pronounce the last names of some of the most popular poker players ever..

@tenningale

2 күн бұрын

It's an AI voice. A lot of these channels are run by people in India and places like that.

0:24 you say he flops top pair with QJ but you show the flop as 8 9 4?

The ‘Hustler employee’ didn’t only ‘steal 15K from the table”, he took it directly from Robbi’s stack. After she paid back Garrett (which only a guilty person would do), the employee - who worked in the control room with access to hole card view - wanted to make sure he got his cut.

Taking advantage of "edge sorting" is a GREAT thing!!!

0:24 mandatory comment that the screen graphics don't match the narration or even the video being commented on, enjoy the free engagement

maybe a little pause between the different stories woulda helped but otherwise no complaints, well done sir.

If that last case was actually one of cheating, they’d be among the dumbest cheaters in history. Shoving all that money with just a 30% chance to win is downright idiotic if you assume they have the unfair advantage of knowing exactly what the opponent has

Phil ivey should not be on this. The casino agreed to everything Phil asked and then got mad and try to ruin his reputation when he beat them at their own game. Crazy that a judge ruled in the casinos favor when casinos ruins millions of peoples lives by cheating them out of their money.

The Beau Rivage is right down the street from me lol

You failed the edit on 0:24. No point in continuing

I agree with Skillsrock, it's ALWAYS been up to YOU to protect your cards from everyone AT the table.

How is that Iveys fault...? When the casino has an unfair advantage too. Ivey and his asian friend are smart af lol

Ivey did not cheat. And he wasn't playing poker. This part was wrong.

So... if Phil Ivey lost and the casino took all his money. Imagine him saying "No, I'm keeping my money".. then leaves the casino

Daniel Newgrainyou Scott Sighver Not how those names are pronounced. Has the narrator ever watched a WSOP episode?

Ivy's case was NOT cheating and should not be in this vid.

Wasn't there a video where Phil Laak explained that the player has the responsibility to protect/hide his hole cards?

QJ and flops top pair 894 💀

could someone explain to me what robbie did? I'm not an english bative speaker, and it's talked about really fast. so she went all in with a bad hand?

@matthewfoley9522

2 ай бұрын

She ‘called his bluff’ with Jack high, there is no full proof that she cheated but because the play was so bad, and some of the things she said afterwards, it is hard to think she didn’t cheat. To add onto it, 15k of someone’s chips were stolen that night. This proved that security was poor all night so it makes it more possible that Robbie cheated. There is no proof of anything though, maybe she just can’t play the game very well.

@jayweh

2 ай бұрын

@@matthewfoley9522 oh...I was so stupid to not put a timestamp on this 10mins video. could you time point me to the exact moment? I already forgot what it was all about, but I want to understand your explanation since you kindly took the time to reply. 😊

We're there's money there's cheats

Its was $15k from her chips.. 10% of $150k .. he worked in the booth where whole cards are shown

@userac-xpg

4 ай бұрын

never play on a live stream

@Vote_By_Mail

Ай бұрын

Love when people just start rambling off about a specific person in a compilation video and expect everyone else to know wtf they're talking about...

Can we all agree that the hustler casino poker room is crooked as hell

You can’t put Phil in here. He didn’t cheat a poker. He didn’t cheat at all. He’s an advantage player.

Absolutely a players responsibility to protect their own cards from being seen.

The casino knew about edge sorting. They just didn't think Ivey would be successful at it. Well... they were wrong. Luckily, courts will always bail out the corporation.

4:25 haven’t heard of soflo in years, ever since he started doing “kissing your mom” pranks on Facebook lmao

Did Robbie win with Jack high?? only part confusing me cause they had the shared card highlighted like she made a different hand and I just don't see it.

@matthewfoley9522

2 ай бұрын

Correct. She won with jack high

Damn, I've never heard someone butcher 'Negreanu' that badly before.

paused to say i am pleasantly shocked how well done this is. i was not expecting this level of well thought out accuracy on the postle situation. this is a legit channel

Phil was not cheating he was using information available to all players

NO cell phones at poker tables.

How was the last one "cheating"?

Ivey never cheated in poker…. Why is he in a video of “poker cheaters”.??

@userac-xpg

4 ай бұрын

never cheated period. If you saw something on how a slot machines' reels lined up and knew the next spin would be a jackpot, are you a cheater for putting in a dollar in pulling the lever? Or is the casino at fault for having a flawed machine?

@GorillaStrength

4 ай бұрын

@@userac-xpg Exactly!

@victorjames9562

3 ай бұрын

Marked cards is about as cheating as it gets, no, getting factory marked cards is not the one weird trick to avoid being a cheat,

@herps4life33

Ай бұрын

He wasn't even playing poker lol

3:47 - "Daniel Ne-GRAIN-Yewww"

Looking at another players hole cards isn't technically cheating, it's just considered really, really horrible etiquette. Every casino I've played cards in always has the rules clearly stated that, "It is ultimately the player's responsibility to protect their hole cards". I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most casinos that catch people looking at other players's hole cards will likely ban that player or at least 86 them, but legally that's about all they can do. It's sorta up there with counting cards in blackjack, but ethically it's much worse.

@denisfolcik1373

5 ай бұрын

Most players will tell the player by them if they are exposing their cards to them. Years ago, I was looking at my cards in a way that the player to my right could see them. He was nice enough to let me know. I now do the same. While it would be nice to know the cards everyone else had, I would rather not find out by seeing their cards while in the hand.

@userac-xpg

4 ай бұрын

it depends on if you accidentally see their cards or are deliberately trying to see them. If a player is trying to protect their hand and you are making an effort to see their cards then you are cheating.

@nitthegrit7544

4 ай бұрын

@@userac-xpg If someone accidentally sees your cards and follows etiquette they will tell you that they saw them, and remind you to protect them better. If they accidentally see your cards, and *don't* say anything, (and continue looking), then they have become just as bad as the person who was trying to look on purpose.

@2AForever-wi8yj

2 ай бұрын

@@denisfolcik1373 yup

@2AForever-wi8yj

2 ай бұрын

@@userac-xpg no youre just a scumbag if you are actively trying to look at them unless you are handicapped in some way protecting your hole cards is not difficult .

I don't know why you included Ms. Robbie in this since she wasn't cheating

@pokerbear7 the picture you used at the 3:22 mark is the wrong person.

When you beat casinos at their own game they accuse you of cheating casinos are as bad as shylock's the only difference you get free drinks

Poker players have some of the most astutely concentrated vision and vicinity awareness. Its incredibly stupid to attempt to cheat at the table.

Very strong of Veronica Bril to call him out

@tectorgorch8698

8 ай бұрын

Love Brill. Wish she was on the webs more often.

@userac-xpg

4 ай бұрын

took a while before she did. She was on the Mike Postle God train for several episodes.

What doesn't makd sense is the number of players wearing sunglasses 😎 😎😎 indoor during a poker game?!🤔🤔🤔

Imm confused as to what the last chick did excatly ?

💀 Imagine going to jail for cheating. Now imagine going to jail for cheating at the same time as a murderer, but the murderer gets 1 year instead of the 3 that you were given.

well fuck, let them lock you up too for your pronunciation of Negreanu and Seiver

skillsrocks needs a belt

The poker players who make money consistently on a monthly and yearly basis approach poker from the perspective of a MENTAL DISCIPLINE.

...Daniel nuh-GRAIN-you?

Anyone who robs a casino is a saint in my eyes.

@2AForever-wi8yj

2 ай бұрын

putz

So many ignore that Garrett bet huge with EIGHT HIGH!!!! Yes he had a huge draw but he actually had *** EIGHT HIGH **** and she had a SF blocker!

When it comes to players flashing their hand I will tell them once hey I could see your cards. If they keep doing it that is their issue and their problem of you are going to show me your cards I'm going to look. Now am I gonna lean over and try to see them? Of course not but if I see them just sitting still in my spot that is the players problem and they need to learn to protect their hand

@joshcarpenter2008

7 ай бұрын

I was playing a low limit cash game and there was a player there holding his cards up in his face like he was playing 5 card draw at an old saloon in the west. I told him I can see your cards and taught him how to protect his hand. That's the only thing I thought was right to do.

Robbi just made a mistake. She thought they were playing Hold-em Hi-Lo

The fact that the dude last the lawsuit cause he had an edge that’s apparently illegal but the edge the casino gets is legal. Not to mention he didn’t tamper or mess with anything to get an edge literally just asked for a deck of cards and they voluntarily said yes to it without verifying them

The Garret vs Robbi's hand makes no sense because Robbi shoved on excellent implied odds. Sure he's drawing but an up-and-down plus straight draw is like usually a 45%+ chance of hitting. She said shes a bluff catcher, but getting your chips in that position is not a bluff.

8:50 i watched this live and i knew something was off the moment she made that call, poker is created in such a beautiful way that you can tell something is off in moments like that. anyone who cheats at least once on a poker table should be banned on every possible poker event and go cheat in a game where money isn't involved

@brentfarvors192

8 ай бұрын

Thimg is, casino's really dont care because they get paid regardless of the outcome...The ability to rake in $1000.00 per table hour without risking a single dollar??? "Step right up!!!"

@DW-op7ly

8 ай бұрын

Did you watch at least 3 times after where she played that same hand and won?

@CashMoneyMerta

8 ай бұрын

DON'T FORGET THAT SHE IMMEDIATELY GAVE HIM HIS MONEY BACK

@crisisoninfiniteopinions2977

8 ай бұрын

Robbie's cheat was a carefully calculated setup. She is an "Influncer" who used this one time event to explode her brand and boy did it work. Doug Polk had the best analysis, but the wrong conclusion. She knew this would go viral as poker cheating controversy and raise her brand to water cooler talk. She played the game and played it well. All of it except the poker.

@kevinclark-cn2mf

8 ай бұрын

@@DW-op7ly players do that all the time with shitty hands, they pretend it is their favourite hand so they have an excuse to play like a moron

Ivey didnt cheat....

@dysui5253

7 ай бұрын

I agree!

@Aphpomni

7 ай бұрын

Came to say the same thing. That casino met all his terms to get his “action” they didn’t know they were setting themselves up for failure but that isn’t on Phil… Phil set the parameters of the game he was willing to play, they agreed. 100% their fault, now could they have backed Ivey off? Told him he is no longer welcome in their property ABSOLUTELY but you don’t make a mistake, lose your edge, then whine like babies when you lose.. you do the same thing to every single person walking through those Doors, did Phil have an unfair advantage? Of course he did… he set it up that way, and the casino sooo desperate for the action agreed. They deserve what happened to them and it’s terribly sad the courts ruled in favor of the casinos.

Casinos don't complain when when they take people's money using dubious methods, but when you beat them at their own game, they don't like that.

At 0:24 the video incorrectly shows the flop as being 8, 9, and a 4. When it should be 8, 9, and a jack.

Who would have thought people who gamble try to cheat. I'm shocked!

You got sone names of pretty well known poker pros wrong. It is Daniel Nahgrahnew and Scott Seevert.

@Joe_C.

8 ай бұрын

You also got the names wrong. It's Daniel NEGREANU, and Scott SEIVER 😜

@tomemeigh5338

8 ай бұрын

@@Joe_C. He spelled them phonetically, though admittedly added a "T" to Seiver's name. But he DID get the word "some" wrong.

@MageAtYou

2 ай бұрын

@@tomemeigh5338 wrong and also without the phonetic alphabet

Daniel Negrainyoo's comment is spot on.

The Robbie claim is exceptionally weak as a cheating case. I saw a longtime star do the exact same thing in a hand because he thought the other guy had low cards. He was right and won. What I witnessed was a player playing the player and not the hand. The dude went ALL-IN with literally nothing. No one wants to talk about that fact. He went all-in on a hand he had a 47% chance of losing. He knew he could lose to a freaking 9, yet he decided to bluff. That’s on him. She should have never given the money back even if it was the easier move. She didn’t cheat, she simply noticed patterns with him when he doesn’t have the hand.

@mingi1489

2 ай бұрын

Her talking didn't make any sense tho she said that she thinks that Garrett has ace high since he raised pre flop so why would you call with J high it makes zero sense... she even loses to a lot of draws like J8 or QJ so no one is ever calling that with J4 "she simply noticed patterns" get tf outta here with that bs you really think that? You're even worse than Robbi's poker skills I have seen people call with J high and 10 high too but in those cases it made sense since the opponent didn't raise preflop but here it made zero sense

Poker is so corrupt. It's the money, theres so much of it.

Protect your cards folks….

If you think about it how crazy is it that he doen something a simple as using his mobile to get msgs and no one noticed for quite a while . Sadly tho the casinos are so dodgy in many ways , I’m quite shocked at the way they’ve almost tried to murder some advantage players