When Landis DEMOLISHED the Tour de France
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Your channel is the gold standard for ex-pro peloton content: insightful, varied and dynamic. Chapeau!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MrGmooney
3 жыл бұрын
Landis was as high as a kite on testosterone
@caseysmith544
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrGmooney And a type of EPO that takes 7--14 days depending on person/type of EPO to clear the system before the individuals event takes place. they found barely traces of this substance in him.
You have a photographic memory of rides you've done. Amazing.
@tmelendezmia
3 жыл бұрын
Rob, It has amazed me for years how athletes remember details from specific situations they have been in. I love hearing those!
@rockhopper01
3 жыл бұрын
@@tmelendezmia except for the concussion. That kinda scared me at the time.
@Swampster70
2 жыл бұрын
I think you tend to remember those moments in life that were supremely difficult whether mentally or physically.
Chris, you were known as an energetic, supportive, and jolly guy in the peloton, and now you give us the only possible positive verdict on this era. I am so glad that you are around, and making videos. Oh, and that 2013 Vuelta was incredible. Many thanks!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks !
God I love Chris’ stories.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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@pkelly20091
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, Chris is a very natural storyteller who also was a very good cyclist.
@pagejustin5572
3 жыл бұрын
Check this out.... Hidden KZread video with Mr. Horner explaining everything that's going to happen today 👍 2006 stage 10 kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIJ2s9CgYdvQk7A.html
Chris, I’m a lifelong cycling fan and TDF fan, having grown up in France. Ive had the pleasure of being working with NBC on the Tour for 9 Tours (except last year and this year), chatted with you a couple of time. I still think of this stage 17 as one of the greatest stage in my lifetime, epic regardless of anything else.
Oh no, "The Mouse is out of the Bag" HAHAHAHA--Another reason why I love CH's Story Time. Keep 'em coming.
I remember following this stage all morning here in the US online. At the time I couldn't believe what was going on, the favorites just couldn't catch Landis. I admit I got caught up in the excitement and didn't think at all about the implications of Landis riding like he was. When the positive test came back a few days later, I second guessed my understanding of cycling. As time went on, I started to realize just how pervasive doping was in cycling at that time especially as the flood of Operacion Puerto revelations kept building throughout 2006. I was definitely naive at the time. These days, we know that essentially the entire peloton was juiced back then. I now feel the judgments levied against Armstrong and Landis were just BUT that many other riders that deserve a similar judgement have not been made to face the music. The whole affair makes me distrust the various organizing bodies and anti-doping organizations and feel that tremendous hypocrisy and omerta about the long history of doping in cycling remains to this day. Riis, Pantani and Ullrich are all still "official" winners of the Tour. No one influential in cycling has publicly questioned the absurd Banesto / Big Mig era of the mid-90s. No one mentions that Merckx failed at least three doping controls. No one has confirmed who "won" the Tours Lance won (because all of the main competitors were on EPO). The whole situation is insane.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Nicely written
@rudyardganuelas6254
Жыл бұрын
It's not insane. It's hipocritical. That day though, at the moment, what a fucking ride!
@drunkensailor112
Жыл бұрын
Far from the entire peloton was juiced back then. Infamously Christophe Moreau finished 4th in the 2000 tour while being clean and there are way more examples.
@RAD6150
Жыл бұрын
@@drunkensailor112 Infamously clean? Why? Because he got caught a couple years earlier, so he wasn't going to do it again? He was connected to Festina and Puerto... I don't give any rider the benefit of the doubt with that history. Better tests = new cheats.
@drunkensailor112
Жыл бұрын
@@RAD6150 Moreau wasn't connected at all to Puerto and it has been confirmed by several sources that you can even read in the documentation against Armstrong that Moreau rode cleanly in 2000 which was the reason why vaughters went to that team for instance
More videos like this please Chris! Helps me pass the time until the snow melts and I can ride again!
Thanks Chris for your amazing recollection of this epic stage...I remember watching on TV and thinking this is the greatest sporting event/stage I have EVER witnessed!
Cadel giving you props like that will stay with you forever.
I feel guilty that I’m getting such great content for free off KZread. This could be a 30 for 30 special on espn. Great video Chris!
@dennish565
3 жыл бұрын
That is for sure. I just recently discovered Chris Horner’s online content and it is enthralling. Thank you Chris!
@dustind9242
10 ай бұрын
YT Premium is nice.. No adverts ;)
Watched this stage live and you knew it was special - which it remains albeit different reasons Thank you for sharing the inside stories so eloquently
I remember that stage, it was epic (later tainted by what happened), I love the way Chris Horner tells it from the inside of the race and his job, epic also !
You are so right about this being a turning point and props for standing by your friends.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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Thanks for sharing your race stories! Reminds me of how I would re-live my race stories with teammates in college and amateur racing. :) So great! I was so stoked when you faught for the win, and won, at the Giro…inspiring! Thanks Chris!
Chris, I could listen to these stories all day long! Great job!
How incredible is it to be able to sit & listen to these stories from some who was there, someone who lived this, someone who was right in the middle of it. Epic. I feel I have a mate who's an ex pro rider, I've gone to his house & he's sharing his experiences. Thanks Chris.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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@briansmallwood4095
8 ай бұрын
I have interviewed Chris and he is really like that. Super nice guy that shares such amazing insight and his success speaks for itself.
@Free_Ranger_CT110
8 ай бұрын
@@briansmallwood4095 absolutely!
I remember watching this epic stage. Thanks for the great insight Chris.
@jdjones4825
3 жыл бұрын
Me too..and I knew his performance was more artificially enhanced than the rest of the peleton...Vive le tour
Chris, your first hand accounts are phenomenal. Thank you so much for sharing them with us!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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This has to be one of the greatest stories, greatest insight ever told in cycling. Amazing Chris, absolutely riveting.
Chris, I remember this stage! It was incredible. I will never forget this day.
Good thing I got off work early so I could listen to story time with Chris! Fantastic job covering that stage thanks for sharing!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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Thank you for immersive storytelling, I feel like I'm at the race chasing too :):):)
Great story & Cadel really seems like a good guy! Cheers Chris
I haven't been that entertained listening to a cycling insight for long times , thanks ! you were already exactly as well-spoken as today in these interviews
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👊
Chris, good work, you should make these available on podcasts!
Great storytelling Chris! So much fun just listening about your racing days!
Incredible storytelling! Thanks, Chris! That was a great refresher. I had missed the live airing that morning and never really looked at the full stage after. Just the recaps and then the fallout.
I’ve been following bike racing since 2003 and this was the most epic stage of all time. We’ll never see anything else like it.
@andrewblake2254
Жыл бұрын
Yes I watched it too with my jaw on the floor. I swear he laid rubber for the first few hundred metres.
@artemkoinash799
Жыл бұрын
What about Froom on Giro 2018 stage 19?
@frankducky6130
Жыл бұрын
Chiappucci in 1992 at sestrieres was pretty insane, too.
Great story Chris. I remembered this stage as if it was yesterday
Thanks for sharing your experience of this stage. I loved watching it at the time, but it is great hearing your insider's info. Champion mate.
After I watched this I went back and watched footage of this and the preceeding stage so thanks for fleshing it out with your memories Chris.
Horner & McEwen hands down best story tellers from the Tour.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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@HenrykSzlangbaum
3 жыл бұрын
couldn't agree more
@occyman
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’d agree with that Harley
@shazzthedon
Жыл бұрын
Hello durian rider, how are you?
@christopheralix8554
Жыл бұрын
All the the sugar and all the food you can bring me! Love it! Epic!
"Crushed guys souls " that was a great line. I've been on a couple soul crushing rides ,lol. great story.
Amazing stories, analysis, perspectives, straight from a man who was creating history. Thanks. Excellent.
Just rewatched this stage. This along with your "Story" really changed how all this went down! Thanks !
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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Next story Tour de Basque and working for Contador. Epic!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good episode. 👊
Thank you - this sport is like music - the more I learn the more I want to know.
Watching this for the dozenth or so time, and it's just hit me how fun yet insightful your Lotto team would have been - yourself and Robbie on the media side of it, Mario and Christophe now in the team cars, and Cadel doing testing.
Chris, thank you for the epic race story. Can’t imagine the suffering. I really like the detail and the respect you show for fellow racers in that era. What a time you raced in. Got me into racing. Always love the butterfly effect brother.. keep them coming, peace be with you
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the season to get going again. 👊
Awesome segment. You've got the best stories. Bonus that you're a really good storyteller. Chapeau.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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Cadel always looked in pain, Chris always looked happy O/O°
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Man, I was his teammate and could not tell the difference between his I’m almost dropped and going out the back from his I’m going to attack and win the race face. He always looked bad😂😜👍
Epic. Thanks SO much, Chris! Love you & love your insights.
It strikes me, that I just subbed now, been following this channel for years. This is one of the best inside peleton stories I've ever witnessed, incl. 2nd hand reports from the peletons in the golden years in the 1970s. This is plus gold standard. Haven't seen the stage since then, i.e. nearly 17 years from now, but remember every meter now as a TV watcher. But this is on a completely different level. Goose bumps.
What a great breakdown, thank you! Always been a fan of you.
Love the story times Chris
Amazing,really like the way you tell the race story,i remember thinking,at the time, that history was being made. Had the pleasure to see you race in Vancouver BC ,bitter sweet for you at the time ,i'm sure,but super cool for the fans.Thanks for coming out
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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First time finding the channel. You are a great story teller, and the perspective you share of being a supporting rider is very interesting and entertaining. I hope you'll share more.
Wow, Just caught this. This is a Fantastic Story Chris, Thanks for sharing your take on it. Definitely half an hour well spent. I think that you make an important point about Lance/Floyd etc and the Stage.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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Chris, I really love hearing these epic cycling stories from your POV and you have an amazing memory. Please keep making content!
A privilege to hear you share your experience; thank you for taking the time to put this out.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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the stuff i read at Winning and Cycling Plus back in the day.. Now i can hear and watch in color.. good stuff
What an awesome story Chris, thanks for sharing it and your passion for cycling. It’s so nice to get this inside the race story to help us get an idea of what the race is like. Now hopefully I can find the 2006 TDF to watch the whole race.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
It’s worth the effort to hunt it down. 👍
15:30 You could also have had an excellent career as a diplomat given how you describe the state of the peloton at this point in time 😄. Really appreciate your story!
@jimmynickelz
Жыл бұрын
"It's...not even"
Congratulations Chris for you videos and stories about insane stages at the tour,vuelta etc.we cycling fans thank you.
Love Horner's take on bike racing. Amazing how gracious he is given his own career was probably hurt by his competition's doping.
I looked at OLN’s video coverage on KZread when I saw you posted this, and in the last 24 hours it has jumped over 1,000 views. That said in watching the finale you have to believe something was up as Landis arrives at the finish line looking way too fresh. It was epic to watch!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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What a great recap and perspective. I was watching that stage and told my wife "they'll be talking about this stage and Floyd's performance for 50 years."
I just watched this video again. It's awesome Chris. Thanks for posting it. I found another video with a bunch of interviews, it's a great watch.
This is such a great recap of a stage that I knew so little about. Thanks Chris
"As much sugar and food as you can bring me" haha so true.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Sugar all day long. 😜
@HenrykSzlangbaum
3 жыл бұрын
load me up, doc
@30redpillsaday71
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling #CARBTHEFUCKUP
@SprayIgniteBoom
3 жыл бұрын
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@croatianmountainbiking6624
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling code “calorie bombs” huh?😉
I Love "Super Domestique story Time" You are an Honorary Aussie for services rendered to Cadel!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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Very cool to hear this story from the "inside". Watched the stage and remember it very clearly, epic!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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Wow, great story Chris! I've been a big fan of yours since the RadioShack days and always loved the way your rode and also your interviews. So much respect for what you did in cycling during your the latter years, especially the 2013 Vuelta, of course. I'm so glad I found your channel today and I just subscribed. Keep up the great work, especially story time, I really enjoyed it.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Will do. I’m behind here in January but will get on it very soon. 👍
Love the stories, keep them coming. I remember watching that epic stage. BTW, it's 'let the cat out of the bag', not 'mouse'. Cracked me up with that one.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Hehehe. Right after I said it I was thinking. I’m going to get hit in the comments for that one. 😂👊
I remember watching this. Notice the heads of the riders when he passed everyone. They were turning quickly.
Thanks so much Chris for sharing that day. From a tough day to one that might not have been as painful, my wife and I watched your Tour de Georgia podium celebration in Atlanta. We were fans from that day on and followed you over the years. Thanks for all of the gutsy rides and winning one for the "old" guys in Spain. Please keep them coming.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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I remember this stage and this tour.. it was a big blow to my enthusiasm towards the sport..
After that TdF stare and race i stopped watching cycling. Then I returned few years later. Cool memories
durianrider brought me here. I agree with durianrider, Horners channel is a gem. He is insanely entertaining with his story time videos.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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Chris, Great story!!! Now I gotta go back and watch that video. Thanks
Always one of my favorites Chris all the way back to your American years. I'll never forget this epic Landis ride. Thanks for bringing it along with the Corner, Butterfly effect, & now Storytime. Hope we'll get more of these. Love the channel. Keep posting please Brother. You rock!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👊
This is such an awesome video, great work Chris. Would love to see more story time style videos like this. Such great insight and very entertaining
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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That was incredible and always love hearing Chris’s takes. I need to find those post stage interviews he mentioned. I probably saw them live at the time, it would be cool to go back and check that out.
AMAZING CHRIS ! - THE SPORT HAS TO THANKS EVERY THAT HAPPENED ON THIS DAY STAGE FOR SURE!
What an awesome recap, thank you Chris!
So glad to see you cover this stage. This is literally my favorite stage of any Tour stage I’ve ever seen. I will never forget this day, I was at work listening to the race and when they said Floyd broke away and was charging up the mountain, I knew something special was happening. I immediately left work without explanation and drove home as fast as possible to get to the TV. I stood in my living room cheering for Floyd and watching the most incredible ride I have ever seen. Floyd dumping water on himself the entire ride, putting time into the pack and descending like a demon on his way to the line. Most amazing performance I have ever seen. Years later after Floyd’s fall from grace, he was riding in the Tour of Missouri on the Ouch team, I was there yelling for Floyd. To this day one of my favorite riders I ever watched along with Robbie McEwen and Tyler Hamilton.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Floyd’s got a good heart.
I remember watching the stage without any doubt there were peds at play and thinking “Floyd No, that’s too much”. Lance would only do just enough and often yield the stage victory but maintain his time gaps.
@iminc5498
Жыл бұрын
I don’t have any problem with peds being at play tbh. It was great racing at the time and everyone was on a level playing field
@blackmamba3060
Жыл бұрын
Hautacam 2000? Lol.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
Жыл бұрын
@@blackmamba3060 the most underrated performance of Lance career it never gets brought up enough Put like 3 minutes into everyone that day
Wow, Chris. Thank you. Fantastic. My favourite stage ever...so good to have this inside story on it.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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Chris, I’ve always loved your enthusiasm and honesty. You are a good and honest soul. This coming weekend I have a tough climbing event and listening/watching your vlogs is like fuel to my soul, a “doping” to my being. Love you brother Chris...
@ChrisHornerCycling
2 жыл бұрын
👊👍 Good luck
(long pause) "...how riders were preparing for races" - interesting way to describe the situation.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. 😳👍
“Could crash, or worse... get a flat tire...” 😳😳😳
Loved your insight ! It is an amazing stage ! One of the most exciting IMO
Chris, you and Bobke do the best commentating on cycling and are right there with Liggett. Thank you for all you have done for American cycling. You are greatly appreciated by this retired cyclist taking me right back to my days in the peloton.
Coach, Another great video. When I saw the 29 minute length, I didn't think I could go the distance, but, man, it flew by. Lots of great detail. I never put this stage into perspective as far as historical impact on the sport, but yes, you are right about that in your thoughts in the last few minutes. Before this, I would never even consider the idea of "thanking" these guys in a way, but I would surely thank the cycling gods for what transpired here, and the fallout that came from it. Those of us who believe in the sport and the ideal of clean racing need to understand that it has to take a stage like this and all the intricate backstories involved to create the domino effect that eventually changed the landscape of cycling, and for that all of us who believe in the ideal of clean cycling can't help BUT be thankful. The end result is worth it. If not for something so massively distasteful, real change cannot happen. Also, great stuff on Cadel and what it was like working for him and just what surviving that day was like. Much respect. Always love your videos. More stories Captain!!!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
Your comment is exactly how I wanted it to be taken and also I believe like you it took these specific and legendary people in cycling at that time to make the change happen. Anything less and it would have been another headline in the papers and soon gone the next week. 👊thanks for the reply.
If you think CH is entertaining here, you should to get the privilege of spending hours with him traveling during a stage race. Better than you can imagine.
@nplus1watches35
2 жыл бұрын
Chris' analysis of a race/stage is second to none, even gassed at the finishing line of a tough uphill finish. Truly amazing.
@laurarodriguezdiaz6489
Жыл бұрын
Green with envy
@whynotride327
Жыл бұрын
@@laurarodriguezdiaz6489 LOL Chris is VERY entertaining. The only guy that I ever came across that was close to being as much fun is Geoff Brown, mechanic for all kinds of World Tour teams.
@laurarodriguezdiaz6489
Жыл бұрын
How do you get that?
@whynotride327
Жыл бұрын
@@laurarodriguezdiaz6489 Over the years I worked with Jittery Joes, Mountain Khakis/Smart Stop, Astellas, Lupus, Happy Tooth, and Hangar 15. Chris was with Lupus when I was with them. He was my co-pilot and I had a great time.
Love your commentary and perspective on this stage. It was definitely needed for the sport. Watching it at the time, it was an amazing spectacle and afterwards it did have the effect of forcing the sport to get more serious about trying to clean itself up. The tactics and grit on that stage were incredible despite the taint.
Man, what a story! I'll never forget that stage (and the day before), but your point of view and story telling was epic, I gotta go back and watch it again now!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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What an awesome story teller, Chris. Thank you for your insights. You had such a lengthy career in cycling, I enjoy your stories. At 24:34, you say "everybody at this moment in the sport throughout my beliefs is guilty of one thing or another... you were doing it yourself" That includes you, and might be construed as admitting to doping. Thoughts?
A great quote from the commentators "If Michael Rasmussen can do it yesterday, why not Floyd today?"
@Peakabike
3 жыл бұрын
Haha...same answer of course !
@abp1400
3 жыл бұрын
@@Peakabike LMFAO....
@ps6149
3 жыл бұрын
Only that it was not the same - the way they stepped of their bikes...
Thanks for the stories! I’m new to cycling and love hearing all your war stories and history!
Always loved watching you race, all heart!
Great perspective Chris. People need to talk about this. Thanks!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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I think "Floyd tested positive" is a bit of an understatement, I imagine he broke the test. He probably went to his doctor the night before and said: "give me everything you got"
@abone2pick
11 ай бұрын
No amount of drugs can turn a mule into a race horse. Everyone on team csc and t mobile were doped to the gills and still got destroyed by Floyd who was simply better and just wanted it more .
@holmbjerg
10 ай бұрын
@@abone2pickLandis was off the scales in the high doses of testosterone he had taken the night before. +A bag of red blood cells. It was more than enough to turn someone average into a champion in 24 hours.
@johnpahlmann7635
10 ай бұрын
Come on, it was only a smallish suitcase full of drugs.
@philfortner1805
10 ай бұрын
Drugs at best give you a 5% advantage but in a game of fractions of a percent that's alot. Besides all the top 50 are juicing, thats why they never found anyone clean to give Lance's wins to. Just a charade, nothing more.
@philfortner1805
10 ай бұрын
@@holmbjerg all the pros were doing the same regiment. Blood doping and micro dosing testosterone for recovery.
Hi Chris. Just fished listening to this for the second time. This time with my wife. An amazing story because it is told by someone there. I am glad to get your outlook on Lance and others. Your reasoning is undeniable. Thank you, John. Oklahoma USA
Chris, this is an amazing story! Thank you. I was about to complete in my 2nd commonwealth games in 2006 and at our tune up international the week before, our team captain spoke of Floyd’s performance in his speech to the team the night before at dinner (as rowers, we all love cycling). By the commonwealths the next week, Floyd had tested positive and I will never forget the mixture of humour that my captain’s speech had gone wrong, sorrow and hope for endurance sport and respect for Floyd’s performance when we knew the sport was far from clean. Thank you for taking the time to tell it!!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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I'm a simple man. I see Chris Horner video, I click.
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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I remember thinking that Floyd had not tired his muscles in the last 1.5 hours the day before.
Loved hearing this Chris - sounds brutal!! Super interesting to get the back story!! Thanks so much for sharing! 😊
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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Greatest stage ever. Thanks for that awesome and insightful recap!
@ChrisHornerCycling
3 жыл бұрын
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