If the sound drops randomly it's because some of the names have been redacted to protect the victims.

@Mutantcy1992

Жыл бұрын

It's pretty clear that many of the places the sound drops, they're saying "mom" so I don't understand why you'd redact that. Edit: Since this got some attention, I'm not blaming RTC if the original audio had the redactions in it. The way he wrote his comment made it sound like maybe he had done it, but that's the ambiguity of the passive voice for ya.

@Moonyxiaa

Жыл бұрын

@@Mutantcy1992 It's part of the available interrogation footage.. Not RTC's fault

@lindalumae

Жыл бұрын

@@Mutantcy1992 I agree. I thought that was strange. They left in “step-father” and “half-sister” but they redact all forms of mother. Very weird.

@ashleighmackenzie8670

Жыл бұрын

@@Mutantcy1992 exactly. So weird silencing the word Mum. It’s not even a name!

@addie_is_me

Жыл бұрын

We know. It is not you trying to drive us nuts. Lol

"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.” -African Proverb

@JoeyCheex0583

Жыл бұрын

no he didn't, that's absurd

@emilinebelle7811

Жыл бұрын

Africa culture sucks.

@laurabedford5095

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant saying . Yes it takes a village to raise a child .or a group .family .

@anjadyrting3206

Жыл бұрын

So true.

@Aleyaha699

Жыл бұрын

Wow. Very wise. I talk to a man who just came from Uganda to America and he has more knowledge of American history and politics than anyone I've ever known who were actually born here.

This is so sad. One thing stuck with me was when the female detective said it was about jealousy I think she half missed the point. This guy took his half sister away from the crime scene and tried to get her to the "safety" of his grandfather. The jealousy wasn't aimed at her at all it was resentment to his mother not jealousy to his sibling.

@mordyfriedman5647

Жыл бұрын

Sadly the detective cares about one thing and that is to further her own career. Sad all around.

@intermidable

Жыл бұрын

Not only did she miss the entire plot, she walked out in anger when he rejected her repeated attempts to put words in his mouth. Terribly unprofessional and unfair.

@TheBOG3

Жыл бұрын

@@intermidable You can hear someone knocking on the door. She then got up to leave. She probably came back. This interview isn't shown in it's entirety.

@kimjensen500

Жыл бұрын

@@intermidableShe was answering the door! Listen...hear the knock before she gets up? She was probably pissed they were being bothered...

@badasstrapbass2313

Жыл бұрын

@@mordyfriedman5647 Silly career women...

The amount of times that these detectives cut the suspect off right when he was about to answer their question is infuriating.

@embeth446

Жыл бұрын

It seemed to me like that had a power struggle going on with what questions they wanted to ask. She’d ask something and he’d cut off the answer because he didn’t like the question or vise versa.

@AfG_313

Жыл бұрын

Both were terrible

@Faeriefungus

Жыл бұрын

In interrogation for reed at least you’re not supposed to allow the suspect to answer certain things you believe they will lie on. You cut that opportunity right out from them in order to rely the message you “know it’s bullshit”

@TheRongy

Жыл бұрын

@@Faeriefungus Reid!

@Faeriefungus

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRongy lol thanks for wasting our time with unimportant things

When the female detective said "We're detectives. We detect things." I couldn't help but bust up laughing. What a hilarious way to describe your job. I mean- yeah, I guess it's true. Detectives detect things.

@TheMrhappy102

Жыл бұрын

saaaame!

@vitast2000

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they detect any confirmation bias they are looking for.

@denisecluiss8098

Жыл бұрын

I know - I starting laughing, too! 😅

@charlotteblanchard

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it seems like she doesn’t really know what she’s doing but feels like she needs to ask questions to appear relevant. 😆

@AClaiderman

Жыл бұрын

That’s the only way I’m gonna describe any profession now. “He’s a landscaper, he scapes land.”

Holy crap, that female interrogator was unprofessional as hell, especially at the end. Putting words in his mouth repeatedly, then getting mad at him and WALKING OUT OF THE INTERROGATION ROOM after he corrected her? This is just sad. Sad kid, sad situation, sad life. Sounds like with the right help, he could really grow and do better. I wish the best for this guy honestly.

@heatherlindsey971

Жыл бұрын

I think she got up because of a knock at the door. I do agree tho, useless “interrogation” methods were used for no reason. He was willing to talk, and it just seemed like he wanted someone to listen. I’m not sure why they were being rude, their job is to collect facts and get confessions… being hateful dicks wasn’t necessary. “We detect things” 🙄

@JeanneEllenSW

Жыл бұрын

It was as if she was goading him into anger, which he did not take. A bit cold blooded on her part, after he answered all their questions without any lies or deceit.

@sarahlamoureaux5832

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this chick is horrible.

@domiro8156

Жыл бұрын

I really dislike her attitude.... She sounded like a bully..... YIKES!!!!!

@joyousbloom731

Жыл бұрын

He clearly said he acted in ways to get attention prior to making the decision to kill the parents. Then she says he said he did the killing for attention which was not correct. She’s an awful interrogator. He was fully cooperative. She was goading him.

“We’re detectives, we detect things.” Thanks for clearing that up, lady.

@joanneshaw3071

Жыл бұрын

She’s not the smartest detective!!

@coryboy345

Жыл бұрын

That dumb broad couldn't detect snow in the middle of winter....

@rosaliecowhey5868

Жыл бұрын

Neither of them are good

@samdoors5132

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you’re right about that and she’s a dingbat

@circusofsix

Жыл бұрын

regular genius, that one.

So, I am a crime junkie but I also went to college for forensics. I've consumed so much information on killers, criminals, forensic psychology, etc .... I think that this is honestly the saddest one I've learned about. I've been listening to police interviews with killers for the last like 48hrs (huge crunch time at work, so I'm listening while I work) and this is the first one to be asked a question that usually exposes the killers apathy and revealed empathy... "How do you feel now that it's done?" "I feel like I just ruined my little sister's life."

@Amber-yq9ee

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, that statement got me too. It seemed like the female detective wasn't really listening to what he was saying & combative & argumentative & gloss over stuff like that. Things where he was CLEARLY feeling emotions but she just kept on like he was blank & no emotions. Idk but it seemed like he wanted his sister somewhere safe. & It seems that shows more about him too. He genuinely cares & loves his sister eventho he's devastated he's not getting that same kinda love & attn. But it didn't seem like it EVER crossed his mind to hurt his sister not once! & Then while he's being interrogated for murder his thought wasn't of himself or anything, it was that devastating sentence. "I feel like: I've just ruined my sister's whole life.". 💔💔💔

@literry3542

10 ай бұрын

I am a crime junkiee as well. But I also have to say that killers are killers. Her parents are like Angel's compare to mine. But sorry to sound narcistic. I have never thought about doing crap like this. Cause I'm not like that..

@alexcarter2461

10 ай бұрын

​@literry3542 So there's a predisposition laid for people that do this then? Right?

@lauraburt1113

10 ай бұрын

@@literry3542 100%, dude committed murder, he's a murderer! I don't think he should be given leniency or anything of the sort. Ya kill someone, ya killed someone. Now you face the consequences of that action. I was just surprised to hear ANY empathy out of the guy at all.

@needtoknowbasis3499

9 ай бұрын

Stop your lies.

This female detective is devoid of intuition, common sense and even an iota of compassion. He admitted he did things for attention and she immediately misconstrued that to mean that he killed his mother for attention, for just one example.

@Chubby_auntie

3 ай бұрын

I cannot take her at all. She’s annoying and kind of dumb. He admits this, and she’s said if we’re being honest here you just said it. Like DUH! This was unnecessary.

@AT-cy7im

20 күн бұрын

Agreed. She’s an idiot

@jrambo7495

14 күн бұрын

You do realize they had to make a Supreme Court ruling that allowed the gooberment to not hire intelligent people. This is what we're left with.

I get the feeling all this kid wanted was this. Someone to sit down and listen to him. And acknowledge him and his feelings.

@keatonmask1918

Жыл бұрын

This is why people must seek therapy instead of killing people. So unfortunate and avoidable.

@sol-leks6122

Жыл бұрын

@@keatonmask1918 100% agree.

@DianaEmilia911

Жыл бұрын

All of it is so sad

@LatinGypsyeyes

Жыл бұрын

This comment gave me chills…so true and so sad that he didn’t get that. I feel that he was invisible in that household.

@DammnDeejay

Жыл бұрын

I don’t have kids yet..so these are really some learning lessons..I had no idea that kids could really feel this level of envy over a sibling. (I’m an only child)

Female detective needs to know when to use the harsh tactics. There was no need since he was being quite open and sharing his own thoughts and feelings.

@ameris11

2 ай бұрын

Literally no need for her to use good and bad cop, she just a bad cop

Did the detective on the left say "we don't want to beat a dead horse"?!😕 Bad timing and awful choice of words 🤦🏻‍♀️

@AT-cy7im

20 күн бұрын

Didn’t you hear ? They detective…. They detect things Lol 😂

I can sooo relate to Joshua. My circumstance was different. My mother raised me and my 5 sibs. She was abusive, but mostly aimed at me. Mental, emotional, and physical. After we were grown, my mom started to babysit. We watched her pour all the love in the world to those kids, and we were all stunned. Where was this love when she raised us? We all had fantasies of my parents divorcing, and we would go live with dad. A few of us had fantasies about my mom's demise. She died of natural causes at 69, we all had pretty much made our peace with her, but it is a lifelong hurt. I really feel for Joshua because there is a thin line between him and me. It was not jealousy. It was anger. You were supposed to love me! Why didn't you love me?! His sister simply showed him that his mother was capable of love. Like him, we had always thought she was incapable. The female detective was rather harsh I thought.

@RapturereadyforJesus

Жыл бұрын

I was abused, but when my children came along, my dad wanted total control over them. I think he was sick in the head and used the kids for supply to make him look good.

@breAnnasmama

11 ай бұрын

I too was the center focus of abuse in my childhood home via my mother/ bio father , then stepfather and mother the rest of my childhood and into adulthood, long after my bio dad signed his rights away . Never was shown love or wanted .. I’d never want to see harm done to any of my family or anyone , for that matter , I do however relate to the pain and hurt and suffering , as well as feeling trapped and afraid and wishing there would’ve Bn a way out so long ago … I do not ever feel like one is justified in something to this degeee but I do understand the pain there and the deep suffering experienced … also, just in reading ur comment - I want you to know u are so worth it, deserving of love and so many blessings and I am lifting you up in prayer right now to the lord. God bless u and give you healing and peace and love.

@RapturereadyforJesus

11 ай бұрын

@@breAnnasmama your words bring healing to me! ❤️

@wecandothiswarriors

9 ай бұрын

Yes anger can be so destructive. I was lucky to have good therapists on the NHS England. But I am 57 and this was through my late teens and twenties. NHS has gone down the pan now.

@raphaellavictoria01

9 ай бұрын

and? did you kill her? no? then how can you possibly say you relate to this beast?

This situation, where a parent resents the birth of one child but nurtures another, happened to a family member of mine. He's middle-aged and still angry to an extreme. It would've been better for him not to witness the upbringing of his sister because it proved his parents were capable of love. They didn't love him. That really burned him, although he loves his sister very much.

@hannah3146

Жыл бұрын

That's why I'm okay having 1 child I can't have another anyways but I can give all my love and attention to my child. My brother literally told me when I was young that he would have a party if I died! Luckily he never killed me LOL and we're in a decent relationship that I don't see him often and we live in the same town. It's really important how parents raise their children because resentment can build up and people can snap

@Island_proper

Жыл бұрын

Woow. Made me hate my sister.

@leothechibowow9920

Жыл бұрын

My life

@robertauld1334

Жыл бұрын

Well my old man always adored my older sisters done for them they couldn't done wrong in his eyes growing up. Then alot of other shit I stopped talking to him for years but started to out of my moms wishes just before she died I mean a week before . Then after her funeral same day my brother's had to get him away from me because he got nasty. But killing him never came into mind. I guess everyone has their breaking point

@Island_proper

Жыл бұрын

@@hannah3146 that what you tell your self? So be it.

The woman was so frustrating. She didn't listen and she kept moving around and interrupting him. The interview would have gone much better without her. She should be so embarrassed with her performance.

@ms.memphis10ten59

Жыл бұрын

She moved around, So Much it Freaking bothered me. I'm like, he's trying to explain everything, stop Moving around Lady Damn...

@clytnjms

Жыл бұрын

She is the absolute worst

@EmEm78

Жыл бұрын

I think whoever was observing from another room came and pulled her out of the interrogation because she was ruining the rapport between the suspect and the other detective and just generally being very counterproductive. I'm no criminal interrogation expert, I just watch a lot of them, and she's one of the worst detectives I've seen. They need to keep her away from the suspects, because her approach isn't going to yield good results.

@EmEm78

Жыл бұрын

​@@ms.memphis10ten59 and she'd chip in with her abrasive misreading of the situation at the worst possible times, constantly disrupting the flow between the suspect and the male detective. I involuntarily said "SHUT UP!" out loud at one point😂 She'd could really do with shutting her mouth and actually listening, observing her partner's successful techniques and humbling herself.

@HollyStAmour-hf6wg

Жыл бұрын

@@EmEm78 OMG! I did the same thing!

It's very sad that this young man thinks that he has found a couple people that truly care about him and what he's been thru in his life so he bares his soul to them. He opens up and talks to them honestly because he thinks he will receive some kind of loving care and support from them. In reality, the detectives he is opening up to could not care less about him, his life or his mental health/stability. The only thing they care about is obtaining a conviction and having him go to prison. I'm sure, when that reality finally dawned on him, he was in an even deeper pit of despair and disillusion.

@sweetascandyxoxo

10 ай бұрын

💔

@raphaellavictoria01

9 ай бұрын

he bares his soul as much as the next "poor me" narcissist. Is anyone obligated to love him? NO. In life, no one owes anyone, anything. You pick up the pieces and move the eff on.

@smokey1517

9 ай бұрын

@@raphaellavictoria01 I certainly never implied that these detectives nor anyone else for that matter "owed" him anything......I was speaking from his point of view and how he really believed he had finally found a couple people that gave a shit about him and how once the realization hit him that these did not care in the slightest it probably put him even deeper in a state of detachment from reality......not sure why you refer to him as a narcissist tho........overall, you are right, you're in this life by yourself w/ absolutely no guarantees of love, success, help or anything else.......

@dwayneneal3342

5 ай бұрын

​@raphaellavictoria01 nobody is obligated to love you either. Nobody wants to hear a word you say. It just doesn't matter.

@Southpaw88

4 ай бұрын

​​@@raphaellavictoria01he's an 18 year old kid. But who knows, maybe you're the narcissist because you don't have nearly enough empath to understand that. being the child of a narc mother, I can tell you it does things to you that you can't even imagine, it messes you up emotionally and time to time, you'll think about hurting your parents. A LOT. Just because you're a narc who can't see themself, or you've had a run in with a narc ex doesn't mean you get to invalidate an 18 year old emotional kid who had to deal with an emotionally neglectful caregiver. That would mess anyone up in life.

Know exactly what he went through. Watched my mom abandon most of her kids including myself and favored our youngest sister. Raised and loved her tho. But the rest of us? Nothing. Walked passed her in a grocery store not long ago, she didn’t even recognize me. Her own child. Just a complete stranger to her. Thankfully my dad was there for me and raised me. This young man’s story is tragic. He could’ve had a great life if only he’d been loved by the person who brought him into this cruel world. He deserved better

@maycollings1333

11 ай бұрын

I'm sorry to hear your story. I agree with you, he loves his sister, he does have love, and desire to be loved. He could be a good person if he was raised and educated well.

@breAnnasmama

11 ай бұрын

I ran into my mom and people she knew at her church when a friend who happens to go to the same place had invited me and I went and spoke to my mother who had a cold reaction even seeing me , people asked how I knew her. I said I’m her daughter and they said no- she only has 4 kids and named them , she’d apparently not even acknowledged I exist .. me and my twin sister have had so many hurts , having made known to us early on how we weren’t wanted. Was treated like a burden and neglected & abused from the moment I entered this world and I love my family very much but it’s Bn very painful and hard and have endured so much suffering. My heart goes out to anyone who knows this kind of pain and I will def. Be lifting you up in my prayers as well … i pray you’ll know u are so worthy and deserving of love and pray the lord will be near and give you healing strength and love. It’s so hard as things like that contribute immensely to one’s development and personality for life. I pray my daughter knows always , the love I have for her. How special she is.

@raphaellavictoria01

9 ай бұрын

So? did you kill your mother? no? then how can you possibly sympathize with this beast? He killed in revenge for feeling "sad". No one is OBLIGATED to love him. In life, no one owes anything to anyone. He had every opportunity to move the eff on, and leave his mother, who got pregnant as a teenager, alone. But he had no sympathy or understanding for anyone: narcissistic piece of crap.

@joettaflyascanbee4659

4 ай бұрын

Didn't notice you in a grocery story? OMG I am so sorry I am so glad you had a loving Dad and you turned out to be a well rounded young man!

@PB-ho6dm

14 күн бұрын

I'm so sorry! Sounds so similar to my life it really is strange how we all act differently in similar circumstances. I have always felt as if God and His Son Jesus have taken care of me. I don't know why I felt this way because I have always loved the Trinity. I know God loves all HIs children. He gives us choices. I so feel for children that Mother's never love. I went the opposite way. My children and their children have always been my life. Blessings to you. I hope you know Jesus. ❤🙏 I so feel for this young man.

The fact that he made sure his sister was safe is proof to me that he isn't a heartless monster. I wish all parents would realize the effect they have on their children's entire lives. I worry about it every day and always feel like I'm not doing good enough.

@stephthinks3109

Жыл бұрын

The fact that you care and worry about it , means that you are doing a better job than you may realize

@dr.feelgood.1330

Жыл бұрын

That’s good of you and keep going you can only do good greetings from Ireland ☘️🐝🌸✌️

@tatt4music

Жыл бұрын

He’s a cold blooded killer. Don’t forget that.

@patchrocket1326

Жыл бұрын

@@stephthinks3109 just by worrying your aren’t doing a great job means you’re doing a great job

@m.ccheddarbox874

Жыл бұрын

It took me until I was 37 to truly realize how much my childhood affected me. This is of course after years of drug addiction caused by said childhood. But, I'm better now. I wish it could have happened earlier.

My key take aways on this video. 1. This is an incredibly sad interrogation of a broken child. Although it doesn't excuse his crime, from one human being to another, I can feel his pain. No child should do anything like this but they also shouldn't be neglected like that. 2. This female detective seemed like she was just trying to jump through the ranks. This kid seemed like he wasn't lying or holding anything back so the whole good cop bad cop technique wasn't required so it just makes her a bad cop.

@bonnie_gail

Жыл бұрын

agreed

@sirvilhelmofyonderland

Жыл бұрын

SPICE is a hard drug. It is NOT synthetic marijuana. It’s nothing like marijuana. It’s addictive, it will drive one insane.

@dirtydirt421

11 ай бұрын

She was awful..she doesn't have a clue..most likely department needed to meet a quota

@maycollings1333

11 ай бұрын

I do not see good cop bad cop here. There is a neutral cop and a bad cop. I do not understand why she irritated when he denied that he did it for attention, he did not say that, she obviously put words in his mouth. He needs attention but it would be good attention from his mom. He has never said he kill to archive attention. What is wrong with her?

@lauralandon9102

11 ай бұрын

The female detective was excused at the end because she was being too argumentative and the 2 knocks were for her.

Man it’s so many of us out here who can relate to this guy. God bless him because he truly deserves it. As someone who was neglected by his parents I understand the resentment. I do wish he didn’t kill because she wasn’t worth it at all , not worth giving up his own freedom. It’s not fair when a parent has a child and then abandons them.

@RapturereadyforJesus

Жыл бұрын

I am surprised also as to how many have been neglected in childhood. I guess we all have our limit as to how much pain we can endure before we snap,

@mnj640

8 ай бұрын

I was raised by my mum who was physically abusive to me. My grandmother who we lived with for a couple of years was the same. I remember once when I got in trouble once my grandmother told my mother ' you have to break his spirit'. I used to have dreams of killing them. I didn't I can't hug my mum to this day I'm 57

@chantallvardas0730

6 ай бұрын

I wish he didn’t waste the chance at the rest of his life by killing her. You are soo right, she wasn’t worth it. I do wonder if his grandparents brought him up lovingly. Also, I wonder if he sees that his mother’s inability to care for him, or even maybe her blatantly not wanting to, resulted in her at least ‘giving’ him to his grandparents. I’m not sure. Anyway… I was raised by my Granny & Grandpa, I can’t remember what age I was when my Grandpa died. But, I lived with my Granny until I was 7. When my Mom remarried & we went to live with her. It is very complicated indeed. But. I am currently 50. I have lived with my Sister on & off for many years. Our Mom came to live with us a few years ago. The last 4 years of my life she has treated me worse than ever before. My Sister often backs her up. I contemplate suicide every so often. Sometimes my rage & resentment are more real than other times. I have had a very difficult life. I am surprised that I am still here. I do do inner work on myself. But, things do get daunting & overwhelming. In my late 30’s I did turn to alcohol & drugs. I have thankfully not had any drugs for many years now. Unfortunately tho, I am at AA, & I have relapsed with alcohol a few times, if I had remained stronger, I would be +/- 7 years sober by now. I am so very sad for this young guy…

@AT-cy7im

20 күн бұрын

You sad pathetic little b**ch Get a life !!! And stop blaming others for your pathetic sad life

What really struck me was when he was little his mom would come to visit and then leave him. THAT would be traumatic. Then to watch her get into a relationship and have a daughter that she obviously allowed to stay with her. And then lastly when they found out he was using drugs to dull his pain they kick him out. I wish he would have told her off and left for good. His mother was a teenager when she had him. His father was no where to be found. She looked at him as a regrettable mistake for his entire life. Such a shame.

@Platinum907

3 ай бұрын

The mom was 21/20 yrs. old when she gave birth to Joshua…. It’s young but not super young… she left him at his grandparents until he was 11 yrs old, the mom was 31/32 yrs old. Josh was 18 when he killed his mom on his 39th birthday.

I think people underestimate the damage done by being abandoned by a parent. Even just perceived abandonment. My heart goes out to all those affected by this horrible tragedy.

@ashleighmackenzie8670

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree. And telling this boy she’s annoyed about the fact she has to finish bringing up a child she never wanted?! What kind of mother says that? She didn’t deserve to die obviously. But that’s disgusting saying that to a child. She failed that boy. Big time. I watch a lot of true crime and interrogations. And I really don’t believe this is a bad kid. And I very rarely say that. His anger towards his mother came to a head and he lost control. Not making excuses for him at all. But maybe if she’d given him even a SMIDGEN of the love and care she gave her daughter that she DOTED ON right in front of him constantly, things would have been very different. Again, NOT making excuses for what he did it’s foul.

@islandgirl7304

Жыл бұрын

Yeah most ppl keep them things to themselves. The difference is she didn't.

@elifield7149

Жыл бұрын

The thing about a murder is the victim can’t speak. This is his version. We know she said these things? Or is this his perception? Maybe it went that way maybe it didn’t. The victim can’t speak.

@milana2020

Жыл бұрын

@@elifield7149 well he's definitely not lying on his side.

@nathangifford1424

Жыл бұрын

@@elifield7149 what if I told you things can be documented and proven to be fact regardless if the victim is alive or not

This is one of the saddest interrogations I have ever seen.

@ashleighmackenzie8670

Жыл бұрын

Yess. I agree. I watch a lot of these. And this is the first one I’ve watched where I genuinely feel for them. She didn’t deserve to die, but she failed that child big time. Saying she was annoyed with having to finish bringing up a child she never wanted?! That would mess up any child. Sick woman.

@awkwardautistic

Жыл бұрын

I would say if a kid kills their parent... the parent fucked up big time in some way.

@kathylong3814

Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree. His life could have been turned around by feeling love from the beginning of life...😰

@TheBlackMambaa248

Жыл бұрын

@@awkwardautistic I would say that’s not necessarily 100% true! Some people just have misfires in their brain. There have been completely innocent parents who were killed by their offspring. Parents who did everything they were supposed to do as a parent, but still ended up being the unlucky one to have a child who’s brain wasn’t right.

@awkwardautistic

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBlackMambaa248 Examples?

I actually feel so sad for this guy... It's the first time watching one of these interrogations that I feel that way. If she had even tried to give him the love and affection he craved .... Things would have turned out so much differently

@anonz975

5 ай бұрын

I wonder if she hated his bio-dad and took it out on him.

@karmellatte2267

4 ай бұрын

that’s not an excuse to murder anyone!

@adamv4951

4 ай бұрын

I don't think that's her point. @@karmellatte2267

This was a tough one for me as someone that grew up in a nearly identical situation. You never find out why they didn’t love you, how they could “start over” and treat that child how you wanted to be treated. You don’t get it as a kid and it is so incredibly painful and growing up and still not understanding it… it’s a lot like grief, it never goes away… you just (hopefully) get better at coping with it. He did not. This is one case where I’m going to blame the victim. This is a direct result of child abuse/neglect and while he is guilty his parents who went from ignoring to outright rejecting him need to be viewed as also responsible.

The fact that the detectives seemingly have no grasp on the mental state of a kid without nurture as an adult is concerning. It shows they probably had normal upbringings and can't even conceptualize such a state of living. Maybe it just takes one to know one.

@jenniferjoseph1560

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you! I was verbally abused..among other forms of abuse..but the words hurt the most! Bruises and cuts heal, but words and feelings of nit being worthy stay with you for life!

@WiseResto

Жыл бұрын

@@jenniferjoseph1560 our society ignores the impact that we are scarred with and we float by others who haven't shared such experiences. We often dont interact or think the same. It's harder to live the normal life society tells you you're supposed to have when burdened with such demonds.

@jenniferjoseph1560

Жыл бұрын

@@WiseResto I am definitely understanding this mindset! I would often sabotage myself when things were going well..feeling I didn't deserve it and lacking the skills to preserve it! I hope you have found peace and acceptance for yourself!

@WiseResto

Жыл бұрын

@@jenniferjoseph1560 I have began my journey i dont know if any persons ever ends. But I'll find it through helping others come to realizations such as these to know that they aren't alone. Much love, stay safe.

@dianemorrell9638

Жыл бұрын

@@jenniferjoseph1560 Exactly! There is a poster in my workplace that reads "sticks and stones may break my bones but words really hurt"

I had known carmona (which is what we called him) from 6th grade to 12th. He was my twin brothers best friend. They wrote to each other a few times not many and my brother visited him twice. Senior year he was 11th in class. Every single person INCLUDING myself signed his yearbook Dear Future President. He also received an award for scoring a 5 (which is the highest grade possible) on every AP exam he took. He was brilliant.

@joditorkelson8649

Жыл бұрын

How sad that his life turned out this way. Sounds like he could have become anything in life. I know this sounds horrible, but I hope he doesn’t have to spend his whole life in jail and he’s able to get a second chance at life.

@lifeandstoryofficial9108

Жыл бұрын

so sad..I feel sorry for him

@JoeySmith101

Жыл бұрын

Dear Future Inmate didn’t have as nice of a ring to it

@luiscorretjer595

Жыл бұрын

@@joditorkelson8649 yeah I actually meet carmona through my sister in middle school and we became best friends after that even after high school I used to spend the night at his house. Met his mom and step dad and his sister was super young so I don’t really meet her but yeah they never talked and I remember going to a rays game with him senior year and we didn’t have a ride back from St Pete to tampa and his step dad came to get us and that was a weird silent ride back home, I never thought of it much and when I was at his house we would just chill in the room but I never got like a feeling he hated his mother, I mean we were all like 17 we all didn’t like our parents for whatever reason. I visited him in jail twice before his trial he was relaxed and had a smile on his face and we just talked about what he was doing in there and what we were doing on the outside. It was weird and off putting but we weren’t allowed to talk about the case before he had trial. But after both visits when I had to leave i would start crying and just say goodbye and he would tear up too and that would be it. Now that it’s been a few years I still feel like my old friend is still there and he could rehabilitate back into society but I can’t separate that from what he did to his mother on her birthday if it makes it any worse, the last memories I have with carmona before he did this we’re good ones so I just think about that.

@user-tw3uv2cj8y

Жыл бұрын

@@luiscorretjer595 maybe you should go visit him again

Parents: Love and nurture your children. Specially when young. You can hear it in his voice that all he wanted was love and affection from his mother. I believe she’d still be alive. Also, I think his hallucinations and voices is real. Meaning he’s not trying to cop out. This is so sad for everyone.

This one really hurts my heart. He wanted his mom to love him as a boy , how sad that his mother didn’t get into counseling 2 years prior to this when he opened up to her about how he felt. She could have worked on their relationship together and he could have gotten the help he needed.

I can't believe she actually said the line "So we're detectives, right? We detect things." 😂🤣

@monicacarolina6480

Жыл бұрын

she was a b*tch who only wanted to solve it (for the statistics) and did not give a damn about his story, even putting words in his mouth constantly of being jaelous etc. Giving him th same sentence as a massmurderer like Cruz...is that justice USA? There should be filters in the system, because he is not a monster. He did something horrible, but his rage, sadness were only towards his neglecting parents. With solid treatment while being in a specialized prison, this man could have a future. But life? Dang. I really dislike the USA justice system, being the country with th most inmates and where prisons are schools for criminals and not focussed on rehabilitation.

@TheVioletBunny

Жыл бұрын

Yep pretty low tier Cracker Jack box “detectives”

@warriorwoman5422

Жыл бұрын

I missed that fortunately but how amateur and insignificant a statement. The shoes and detective pants tell me this is her identity. She’s definitely running on ego.

@memyself6360

Жыл бұрын

Shes an idiot

@alvinsavage7701

Жыл бұрын

She’s probably been a detective for 24hrs

The almost eagerness in his voice "do you wanna talk about it?" Like he's just happy someone wants to talk

@kathylong3814

Жыл бұрын

I got that too he seemed suprised the Male detective said he wanted to listen to him ...and meant it.

@ChristineNighting

Жыл бұрын

This part made me really sad. Perhaps this wouldn't have happened if someone gave him the time and was willing to love and listen to him as a child.

@mitakuyeoaysin9652

Жыл бұрын

@@kathylong3814 yep keyword MALE. When the female jumped in literally watched his body and face. He wanted no part of any woman especially at that time.

@MaisyMimi

Жыл бұрын

Agreed and then they kept shutting him down from telling his whole story. This man needs therapy/counselling to let out and work through his childhood issues

Despite what he did, this guy is far from a monster. I understand him completely and feel for him deeply.I hope he will find some kind of solace and peace in his life, even if it's gonna be behind bars. As for the lady detective, she should have started the interview the way she finished it - by walking out.

I wish Joshua knew and understood his rights! He shouldn't have ever said one word!

@mmestari

14 күн бұрын

"I wish Joshua knew and understood his rights! He shouldn't have ever said one word!" Why you wish a psycho killer on the loose? And he understood his rights, he talked because he wanted to.

I actually feel really sad for this young man. My son was abandoned by his mother and I raised him alone from age 4 to adulthood. At 18 years old his mother tried to reconnect and it made him even angrier with her. Any time a child is left behind by choice it’s going to hurt.

@doctorvannostrand

Жыл бұрын

Would you feel badly if it was a daughter who killed her father?

@jonlee2217

Жыл бұрын

@@doctorvannostrand What a strange question. Are you alright?

@mattb6646

Жыл бұрын

@@doctorvannostrand the sex really isn't an issue in this case, it's the relationships.. it would be sad for anyone. No one's excusing murder but people can see why he felt hurt by a parent not caring for him

@MyersAcquiresSubscribers

Жыл бұрын

Me too brother! Keep on keeping on.

@ChrundleTGreat

Жыл бұрын

@@doctorvannostrand WTF does that have to do with the price of coffee in China?

Neither of my parents ever gave me any attention. My older brother was the hero and my younger brother was the baby. I was beaten almost daily. I left home at 16 years old and never looked back. That was 35 years ago.

@joditorkelson8649

Жыл бұрын

I’m sorry that happened to you. You certainly didn’t deserve it. How are you doing now?

@thomasjensen6243

Жыл бұрын

@@joditorkelson8649 I'm good. I left my family behind a long time ago. I never really had a family to begin with. You can't miss something that you never had.

@germainewright7348

Жыл бұрын

I admire your bravery. Sending big hugs. I wish you well in life. xoxo

@thomasjensen6243

Жыл бұрын

@@germainewright7348 thank you.

@mrd3016

Жыл бұрын

And you didn't kill them, did you? So what's the difference here? You're not a monster.

As a mother to both a young son and daughter, I have to say I feel bad for Joshua. Every child deserves to feel loved. It's necessary for proper development. He was missing this, it can really mess a person up. I don't think he would have committed this crime, or a crime like it if he had the nurturing he needed.

His childhood definitely has played a part in his decisions. Being rejected by your only parent is hard enough, and then his gma passing away was another blow to his already sad mental state. Then his baby sister is born and gets the attentions from "his" mom that he never did. Rejection after rejection on a child is only asking for sever trouble if not dealt with and adding drugs on top of all this, Im amazed he didn't do anything sooner.

That female detective kind of started to irk me towards the end. I appreciate the guy's gentleness towards him. He's definitely not a monster. It's sad what he did to her but all I can feel is empathy for him. He just wanted to be loved and nurtured. I don't see a grown man, I see a sad little boy who was neglected.

@beckyberlin6433

Жыл бұрын

I see a child who never felt love and acceptance

@beckyberlin6433

Жыл бұрын

The FEMALE DETECTIVE IS A HARD ASS

@BubbyBold

Жыл бұрын

I see a full grown murderer. Emotions don't change what he did.

@granny58

Жыл бұрын

Let him live with you

@thurston4mor

Жыл бұрын

These detectives are so calloused Fake emotion

My biological mother gave me up for adoption when I was 3 and kept my brother. I am now 38 and she doesn't get to see her grandchildren. Every time she says she has rights to my children I tell her that she gave up those rights in 1987. I would like to think that I had a better life with my grandparents. I feel a lot of resentment towards her for what she and my dad did. My brother and I have a strong relationship now that we're both grown but when we were young we would fight constantly because I always felt that was his fault in some way for me being pushed off on my grandparents. In the end my mother is paying for what she did and I don't feel bad at all.

@crochunter35

Жыл бұрын

Brutal, dude

@steviasativa9803

Жыл бұрын

You’re making your kids miss out on their grandparents lol

@frankh4277

Жыл бұрын

@@steviasativa9803 the way I see it is that my parents are dead. My grandmother passed away when I was 12 and my grandfather went in 2014. I didn't make them miss out on anything. The people who signed the adoption papers are responsible for not seeing my children.

@halroxdynasty8683

Жыл бұрын

@@frankh4277 don't listen to that person. You don't owe your mom anything, fuck her.

@marieh1755

Жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

This is absolutely heartbreaking.This very young man had no chance in life with a mother who just did not want him,him taking drugs to patch his pain and no one being there to help him.

I grew up with a mother that couldn’t care less about me, loved my brother to death and would do anything for him. I was never once jealous of my brother. I loved/ love him very much. It was all her doing. It’s a horrible way to grow up.

i’m not excusing his behavior at all, this man had nobody. What he did wasn’t right at all. But i feel for the kid that wanted his moms attention and couldn’t get it. He resulted to other things to escape, to feel like everything was going to be ok. he saw his mom not trying with him, but giving his sister the attention that he was screaming for.

He wasn't born a monster but he did monstrous things. He wasn't jealous of his sister receiving love and affection from his mother, he just could not understand why she never felt that for him. He absolutely was suffering trauma from childhood as a result. It is no excuse for killing his mother but her neglect of him led him to feel justified in doing it. It's a very sad and complicated situation and I feel for his sister, as she was lucky to have had a loving mother.

@Scott_Buchanan

Жыл бұрын

Well said.

@Abruzzo333

Жыл бұрын

That's debatable. he definitely has some serious mental issues....and they may very well be traits he was born with.

@bibitch

Жыл бұрын

I hate that I can almost understand where he's coming from. My mom raised my sister and I, and made very little secret how much she resented us and our dad after they divorced. He's been dead for over a decade now and she still can't shut up about how much she hates him. When I was ~10 my mom got knocked up from a one night stand (who turned out to be a decent guy who stayed with her after he found out). My brother was treated differently, raised differently, and no matter how my sister and I tried to tell her how much that hurt us over the years she just said we hated him and made us out to be the bad guys. We don't hate him. It was never about him. But she just won't see that. She told me once, to my face, that the reason she treated my brother differently was because she loved his dad more than she did mine. But now she says that never happened even though there's record of it in my old diary from back in the day. So yeah, my sister and I are both pretty f*ed up. It hurts to feel unwanted and it hurts even more to know that you are. This guy did something monstrous that can never be undone, but for the first time ever I'm sympathizing with the monster.

@augustopinochet3830

Жыл бұрын

@@bibitch Just wait until she needs care and dish up her shit back. you might be one of those mfs that cant do that but you're missing out big time. never felt more better about issues than pissing in their morning coffee

@merryhunt9153

Жыл бұрын

@@bibitch We only have his word for it that his mother didn't treat him right. What do relatives say, neighbors, teachers? You can't make a decision about his guilt based on a half-hour interview.

I was raised without maternal love and grew up to have three amazing sons. My brother turned into my mother and continued the cycle. I feel that boys need a mother’s love more than most people realize. My sons are thriving and contributing to society. I think this young man is “dead inside”. It’s heartbreaking

@darthbrooks4933

11 ай бұрын

No, they need a father more than anything. Otherwise you get men who operate on emotion, like this young man. Single moms make TERRIBLE parents. Every metric shows this

The man who is questioning this young person is gentle and thoughtful to help the young man get through what he wanted to say.. the young woman who is questioning this young man is more blunt, matter-of-fact, and ask him to repeat something that even I remember such as they were in the kitchen not the living room. She needs to soften her approach and deal with this possible perpetrator who committed this horrible crime, and remember that he is in a pretty bad state but trying to come forward in some sort of way.

He did something unforgiveable, but I can't help but feel sorry for how he was treated in his early life. This could have been prevented. ;__;

@IMWeira

Жыл бұрын

Too bad he didn't just leave. I got away. My Sister was not so fortunate.. She used a .38 police special to commit suicide. I never blamed her but she felt complicit. I blame only the Ogres.

@streaming5332

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he was treated in an unforgivable way.

@barrronessa

Жыл бұрын

@@IMWeira hope you’re doing better now bonnie ❤

@StacyK0731

Жыл бұрын

@@IMWeira Oh dear, so sorry for you and for her. My little brother took his own life and it has left me with chronic sadness...

@zenaidarivera957

Жыл бұрын

Bonnie so sorry for your loss. 🌿🕊🌿🕊

I hope this female detective reads these comments and "detects" her own issues.

@DLGreen

Жыл бұрын

I'd argue her on one point. I'd argue most people hallucinating know they are hallucinating.

@MaddyIntravia

Жыл бұрын

Just another reason I do not agree we women are necessarily fit to be cops or in military...too emotional 🤷🏻‍♀️

@patriciagalea7754

Жыл бұрын

@@MaddyIntravia Speak for yourself.

@MaddyIntravia

Жыл бұрын

@patriciagalea7754 you understand I am GENERALIZING, right? Obviously, there are exceptions. Women are more emotional than men; that is science + biology.

@MaddyIntravia

Жыл бұрын

@muepoweri2935 lol yeah touche! Very mentally + emotionally unstable men...or lack thereof men.

I was abandoned at an early age of 2 along with my other 7 siblings. My mom literally ran from us and my dad raised us himself. She went on to have another family with someone new. It killed me inside and i just didnt understand why we werent good enough for her to love. I hated her! My dad passed away 3 years ago and his wish was that i talked with my mother because despite everything, she was still my mother and my dad understood she had to had problems to run away from an entire family she created. I am now 30 years old & talk to her daily on the phone. I have forgiven her. Her life and health is going down hill for all the bad she's done. The forgiveness was not for her but for me so i would never be in this young mans shoes. My heart bleeds for him because i too, have felt exactly how he has felt.

@maureenstevens6824

3 ай бұрын

Good for you. Forgiveness is the only path to peace.

Det: "So I can't words in your mouth" Sus: "I'm in the detectives office" Det: "So yeah your in the sheriff's office?"

This is the first time I’ve ever felt sorry for a murderer. I know everyone thinks they have the best mom, but mine is phenomenal and she loves me “to infinity and beyond”. I can’t imagine how much hurt/pain he felt. The resentment he had for his mom is somewhat similar to Edmund Kemper’s.

@oceanelf2512

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Like you, my Mom's and my relationship was incredibly loving, and I could never even imagine killing anyone unless it was out of self defense. But I understand a little about what it might feel like to be thrown over for someone else, though that never actually happened to me. We all experience the odd situation here and there when we feel not always cared about. But it sounds like Joshua faced that full strength every single day of his life, and that could cause a mountain of hurt and resentment. Obviously his relationship with his parents was nothing like mine. What he did was wrong, there's no denying that. But I think maybe if he had been treated with the love his sister got, this could have been avoided. Not saying for sure, but his feeling uncared for certainly helped him to go wrong, long before the murder was committed. As for me, I just lost my own Mom in May of 2022 and I've never felt so broken in all my life.

@mirrrstery

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I am fortunate enough that my mother is incredibly loving and supportive but I can’t imagine going through all the horrible things in my life without her comfort. Must be very painful.

@thebossy1

Жыл бұрын

@@oceanelf2512 yeah this is one of my first too I feel really bad for him this is very sad

@deedeedee9310

Жыл бұрын

In all fairness Edmond Kemper’s mom was a freaking hate filled, sadistic, abusive mother. NM. I just got to the point where narrator states Joshua would frequently hear his mother say she never wanted him and how it hurt him to watch her love and nurture his half sister…something he apparently never received from his mom. Yup. That will CHANGE a child and it takes years and intense therapy for kids to grow out of that resentment, hurt and trauma once they become adults. I feel bad for him. I didn’t have a mom like you had..but I also didn’t have a mom like he did. (I take that back..I did actually have a mom like his. While she never told us she didn’t want us she abused us in other ways) With that said..I AM a mom like your mom. My kids are my everything. Best thing I ever did in life was being blessed to be their mom. My kids are 14 and 12 and have never been physically harmed (my mom beat my sister and I right up until we ran away in our teens) have never been abused verbally nor emotionally…nor ever will. I have a very healthy, loving relationship with my kids. I can honestly say I’m both their mom and their friend. And I’m grateful for that as I hope I’m always as integral part of their lives as they are in mine. I’ve been able to forgive my mom so I do now have a relationship with her but it does come with boundaries and she is perfectly aware that I won’t allow her to step over their boundaries. Simply put, I just don’t trust her. I love her and glad we have some semblance of a mother/daughter relationship. I don’t know how anyone can ever hurt someone they claim to love. I can’t stand to see my kids cry…couldn’t live with myself if I was ever the reason for their tears. So many bad parents out there. It’s really heartbreaking.

@jennybtx

Жыл бұрын

I can't imagine feeling loved by my family/mother growing up.

He is not a monster . He’s broken .

@jeste4187

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@paulbarron9745

Жыл бұрын

This monster was created.

@startinajackson606

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, he had a wicked mother and couldn't process his feelings of getting no love

@rita1869

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I feel for him.

@MondoMiami

Жыл бұрын

He is a monster who deserves to rot in jail.

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I pray this young man gets the help he needs and that the judge doesn't throw the book at him...

I got so pissed when she said people who have hallucinations don't know they are hallucinations. I deal with psychosis every day and I can usually tell when I'm hallucinating, partly because I've dealt with it my entire life and partly because I still have common sense. this to me really proves we need better training for officers and detectives so they can understand mental health issues and more effectively rule them out edit: I'm appalled at how many of you are taking this comment to mean that I believe only my experiences are valid. I never said that nobody is completely unaware of their delusions/hallucinations. I just stated that the detective should not have jumped to conclusions about it. each case of psychosis is completely different, some are aware of their delusions and some arent, depending on many different factors. I personally am aware of mine most of the time due to me being medicated, but I occasionally have a more severe episode here or there. nobody's experience is more or less valid than anothers. stop talking down to people with mental illnesses, we know more than anyone else what it's like.

@notsosecretsnacker5218

Жыл бұрын

In fairness theres likely a huge range of hallucinations and pyscosis right, so you're experience of your hallucinations are lucid but for many others and maybe spice users it isn't?

@lynnjackson8367

Жыл бұрын

She got so much wrong. Ignorant woman. I can't stand her. I'm sorry for what u deal with. U sound like u handle it very well. You are strong 💪 ❤ blessings 🙏

@feellickspeelix

Жыл бұрын

@@notsosecretsnacker5218 i hear where you are coming from and i agree with you, but I meant that she was very quick to make that accusation without taking into account that many people who experience hallucinations are lucid throughout. I just think that since she wasnt a medical professional that was not her field and she didn't have the jurisdiction to make that claim.

@feellickspeelix

Жыл бұрын

@@lynnjackson8367 thank you this is so kind 🖤

@shariamoore9536

Жыл бұрын

​@@feellickspeelix she is being persuasive here. It's a broad statement to persuade him to explain the details. I do not believe this is how she genuinely feels. I am sorry you struggle with that. I would love to further understand.

The male detective was much more effective at the interrogation process than the female. She let her emotions get the best of her, you can easily see when when she gets frustrated, the male remains calm and consistent the whole time.

@simbasue

Жыл бұрын

Obviously an amateur

@andrewnguyen3312

Жыл бұрын

@@simbasue could be done on purpose

@ANNIEIEIO

Жыл бұрын

I think she was role playing - I didn't see any of her words or actions as authentic.

@toughguychumzee

Жыл бұрын

100%. You can hear the contempt and emotions shes having the entire time while talking to him. It’s not about you lady

@itsjustmaddisen

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewnguyen3312to… sabotage their own case?

That woman police officer DID NOT LISTEN. When he said he wanted attention he meant from his mother, and a father that deserted him, she took it as attention from the masses, then huffily walked out. Do I think he deserves prison ? Yes. It's a tuff case. The thing that gets to me is all the monsters out there that commit horrible crimes just for the fun of it and get away with 14,20,30 etc years. Our "justice" system is so inconsistent. Very frustrating !

detective really said "i don't want to beat a dead horse but..."

“We’re detectives. We detect things”. Brilliant 😂

@TheVioletBunny

Жыл бұрын

🤦🏻‍♂️ moment

@DianaEmilia911

Жыл бұрын

Right wtf was that

@Morideeznuts

Жыл бұрын

And yet, the female detective was seemingly clueless as to what this guy’s motive was and shoved words in his mouth despite saying they wouldn’t and said it was due to ‘jealousy’. If he did murder his mother due to his half-sister being nurtured when he was neglected, why would he shelter her by taking her away from the crime scene and not direct that anger towards the sister instead? She completely missed the point smh

@sassillama9873

Жыл бұрын

😂

@kayyxla4171

Жыл бұрын

@@Morideeznuts ikr

This is just so sad. The resentment of feeling unloved and unwanted your entire life has more impact than people imagine. My heart goes out to him even though what he did wasn’t right. Sad all around for everyone.

@anitabrown3286

Жыл бұрын

....experience it weekly....kiddos in my class are often rejected by their birth parents and act out in school.

@fab8506

Жыл бұрын

@@anitabrown3286 terrible. A parent treating their child so coldly or cruelly is criminal. And they may wanna watch their back!

@cryhavocandletslipthedogso1873

Жыл бұрын

I am glad to see a comment like this. This is probably one of the most relatable murders I have ever learned about. Parenting is gigantic responsibility many do not live up to. I wish his sentence had been more lenient, RTC didn't mention a chance for parole, so I guess there is none...

@cryhavocandletslipthedogso1873

Жыл бұрын

@Diana T I am not defending his acts, just to make that clear, but how on Earth is his sister worse off than he is? I'll grant you, if you ignore the rest of HIS life (almost as if he died), then you got a point, but neither his nor her life are over. At least his sister knew the love of her mother and is free. No need for woman-worsting.

@tonyausten2168

Жыл бұрын

The mother crime was not abandoning her son, the crime is not loving him after abandoning him, bringing him into her life, and ignoring him. And on top of that, there is a far greater crime she did. The stepfather will not love this son like his bio dad would have. So in the end, this son of Adam, turned into Cain. I am just so thankful to God he didn't kill his half-sister- who would have been his Abel.

My mother failed in alot of ways. So did my father. I watched as my mother gave my sister things I needed. I watched as my father fathered 3 kids that weren't his own. At times I was seething with jealousy. But at some point I realized that I was watching them learn from the mistakes they made with me. And through that I found peace and even purpose that I could have paved the way for my siblings to have a better life. Now, as a parent myself, I'm proud of my parents and know that they did the best they could with what they had... But even at the bottom. The darkest. The worst feelings I had for my parents that still in some ways smolder into my 30s.. I would NEVER even dream of taking their lives.. I don't understand how a person could get there but I understand that they do. I just pray for healing for all involved here. Much love. 🖤

It’s crazy because I sort of feel for him, I’ve had resentment towards my mother before for the same reason. She wasn’t there. She got locked up when I was 9 and was gone for 10 years, but you just have to let things like that go and realize we all have our flaws.

The impact of a mother on her son was the key here. The female detective was wrong and probably acted like his mother,sad case.

@dangermiami1990

Жыл бұрын

@@LilithsCosmicLounge We know the importance of a father in the household, that’s a facts , look at single mother homes now on days , more crimes , more depressed kids , more low income homes , lower education, all of that is due to single mothers home. However what we are saying here is that the mother was there , she could have been together with him , and raised him with the help of her parents and she didn’t. The father was missing from the beginning, but the mother was there , she just abandoned him .. right in his face . By the way , do you guys know that kids that come out single father homes have better statistics that the ones out of single mothers home ? Look it up. Oh and by the way single fathers 80% of the time don’t receive help from the mother , financially or physically, the double standards are crazy , mean while single mothers receive help from the father both ways physically and financially 75 % of the time. Take care . Ciao.

@lampshade7874

Жыл бұрын

That is exactly what I thought. The male detective had better motherly instincts than the female did. The young man was screaming for compassion.

@pattyfarrington8345

Жыл бұрын

The female officer was cold and had no idea how to talk to him.period.

One of the saddest parts is he needs help that he probably won't get. Prison is not the answer for some crimes.

@debbielockhart7762

Жыл бұрын

So he should not go to prison for killing his mother? At 18 he could have left home and sought help. Murder is never the answer.

@sandraclark9151

Жыл бұрын

@@debbielockhart7762 I don't mean he should b free I mean he needs help. Help that he probly won't get it prison. He definitely deserves punishment. But also deserves help.

@revolutionishere

Жыл бұрын

Most* crimes.

@eminem2996

Жыл бұрын

@@debbielockhart7762 running away isn’t enough sometimes. Revenge is a dish best served cold

@isitoveryet9525

Жыл бұрын

@@sandraclark9151 meh….there are lots of people who’ve never killed anyone who deserve that help before he does.

I was relieved to read all of these comments that also felt as deeply empathetic toward Joshua as I did. I have a degree in psychology, but more importantly, am a mother and hearing about his abandonment, while not shocking, was terribly heart-wrenching. It is often a common denominator in these cases (or a similar toxic relationship and/or abuse). Like many others have also mentioned, the female detective irritated me to no end. She seemed to have been empathizing more with the mother and less with Joshua and her anger came out in her questioning. I get that that can be an effective technique in some cases, but they already had a confession - it was completely unnecessary. I thought that when she answered the knock that she was going to be pulled off for being inappropriate! You can see he responds more to the male detective, who is offering more sympathy. Why it isn’t a requirement for cops to have degrees in psychology, I’ll never understand!

The female detective is eager to prove why she should get the promotion. 😂

“We’re detectives and we detect.” I haven’t stopped laughing yet.

@mud6866

Жыл бұрын

your amusement amuses me

It's unfortunate he felt this was the only option. To feel unloved and unwanted is a horrible tragedy!

@handyjayes1

Жыл бұрын

Nothing worse in the world

@tubester4567

Жыл бұрын

He had grandparents. I think this is more to do with drugs messing with his mind. I dont think we as a society appreciate the damage caused by drugs. Just about everyone in jail is there because of drugs, same with homeless people. The majority of domestic violence and child neglect is because of drugs. The disintegration of the black community is mostly due to drugs, and thats spreading to wider society.

@aliioana8586

Жыл бұрын

@@tubester4567 it’s not because of drugs. None of these things are because of drugs. Drugs are merely a symptom of the actual problem. Drugs are obviously a problem, but they aren’t THE problem. We’re failing everyone on the mental health front. No, I’m not one of those people who reserves the mental health line for white people. I say the same thing regardless of the offender. Every single person needs to have their psychological needs met. Folks don’t realize how detrimental it is when you’re forced to suffer in silence, or when you try to ask for help and nobody listens. This kind of mental anguish is deadly. We must do better.

@samdoors5132

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s true but not enough to hit the mother on the head a few times with a bat there’s no excuse for that and then putting her in a sheet dragging her to the bathroom and trying to clean blood stains off the carpet yeah I don’t think so

@RIFTDEMON

Жыл бұрын

@@samdoors5132 everything affects everyone differently. Just because you wouldn’t do it, doesn’t mean someone else wouldn’t. Everyone’s brain works differently.

Hi. This was quite short video but interesting to watch. I find it telling when a person begins their explanation by saying ‘I woke up’. I opened my eyes my f@@king problems were still there. I like how the female de’tive used her initiative. It was good the male de’tive seemed to realise his colleague was developing questions and building professional give and take with the suspect. For sure the world we live in is tough. For me this case could fit what can happen having children with a clear absence of parental nurturing. Quality video. Thank you

Usually I’m angry at the criminal.. but in this video all I feel is sadness

It happened to me. I was angry for many years. Then I realized it went beyond just that she resented me and idolized my brother- it was so incestuous it actually helped me realize that they were the sick ones. That was a very liberating realization. It started the path to my own health. They are two very, very disturbed people. I cut her out of my life 11 years ago. It was the best thing I've ever done for myself. I wish I had done it far sooner. I'm not angry anymore because I understand how selfish and disturbed they are. I survived it. I am a strong person. I feel sorry for children who face this reality in their lives. Nothing can compensate for parental neglect or abuse. The harm done is incalculable. It reverberates even through adulthood. But if you can get through it - especially with the help of skilled therapists - you'll come through it solid. And walk away. It doesn't matter whether the abusive parent ever gets it. It's about your own liberation from abuse. Walk away. Don't hurt yourself, and don't trouble with them either. Their day will come all on its own. Your responsibility is to yourself.

@elizabethjackson8333

Жыл бұрын

I am one of six children who were regularly told by our 'mother', "I never wanted any of you; you were all accidents." She was a cold, cruel bitch and we tolerated her abuse throughout our childhood and adolescence. It had a horrible impact on each one of us. It was difficult to feel trust, to feel valued, to accept love or give love. Many, many years ago, I found the courage to tell her about the damage she'd done, and I cut her out of my life. Best thing I ever did. As an adult, I went on to complete my education, develop a career, leave the husband to treated me badly and make a great life for myself. I feel for this kid. I wouldn't say that he was 'jealous' as much as left wondering why he was so undeserving of love and affection. Not surprised that he developed a substance abuse issue. Killing his mother was not right; but I understand why he did.

@ql6746

Жыл бұрын

So true. Incestuous is it. Letting go makes us stronger.

@TheAshesArt

Жыл бұрын

It happened to me, too. I escaped 7 years ago. Wishing you all peace.

@francesmurphy3560

Жыл бұрын

You show a lot of insight into your situation and were able to forge your own destiny. Congrats. To several of you. Still it must hurt some days.

@chc6644

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for having the strength to share some of your story.

There’s such a fine line between interrogation and manipulation.

@520jrw3

Жыл бұрын

So true that is why you say attorney before your booty hits the chair

@mattb6646

Жыл бұрын

I'd say they're one in the same.. interrogation requires manipulation

@bjb2099

Жыл бұрын

exactly...she was a horrible interrogater

@Synoopy2

Жыл бұрын

@@bjb2099 I thought she was matter of fact and methodical. There was a lack of sympathy which I think some people felt was offputting . But he did kill his mother, and she was looking forward to a conviction and locking up his testimony. On his part he should have requested a lawyer first and not talked until after seeing one.

@xmisterpilgrimx4869

Жыл бұрын

This. I REALLY didn't like the words they were trying to put into his mouth near the end. They intentionally twisted things to try to make him look worse.

The kid felt unloved. I was, for all of my childhood. I used to have these really vivid dreams about the police turning up at my childhood home and finding my adoptive parents under the driveway!! I am now 57 and was blessed to be able to talk through my childhood traumas,took years, but I was of sound mind ,but pig headed, a rebel and feisty. I think this is what helped me and got me through.. Yeah he killed his mother,but a part of me feels for him. I actually became an ESOL teacher , but in my 30s as I had to work through so much. So many children who have suffered neglect CAN succeed

Just a little maternal love would’ve made such a difference in his life. Sad

I have 3 children and I can't imagine loving one more than another. My heart breaks for this poor kid!! Murder for any reason is wrong but I understand where he's coming from.

@eminem2996

Жыл бұрын

Well in this case, murder is 100% justified.

@AlfredHugecokk

Жыл бұрын

@@eminem2996 or at least, acceptable.

@kingcrayon195

Жыл бұрын

Such a great mother... god bless

Parents have a responsibility to protect their children. That includes emotionally as well. There's no way a kid could process something as heavy as abandonment and come out of it without trauma. It sounds like his grandma was all he had. When she died, so did the only part of him hanging on. It's sad all around.

@waitwhat564

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I had a similar situation as this boy. C-ptsd. Had a lot of issues and counselling. It’s a lonely place. However my single mother was abused herself and had no idea how to love. She was sick . I had to accept that.

@avlsage

Жыл бұрын

@@waitwhat564 wow same here, my grandma was the only person in my life that I felt actually cared about me & my well-being and helped me prepare for being out in the world. Lost my gma to cancer in 2014 and unfortunately fell into opioid addiction around the same time.

@joanneshaw3071

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree with what you’re saying. I’ve watched so many of these videos and this guy is different. I do feel for him 😔

@sol-leks6122

Жыл бұрын

That's no excuse to kill his own mother. He's a monster.

@waitwhat564

Жыл бұрын

@@avlsage I get it. Addiction is very common for people with abandonment, rejection, etc issues. I was carried into hospital dying from anorexia which flipped into bulimia, alcohol,opioid , anything ,issues. In recovery now. I hope you find help too. Your not alone 🤗

Female needs to just write parking tickets from here on out. She is a horrible detective.

So sad…. So so sad. He comes from such a painful place and it’s just sad that one can get to that place from there …. I wish he’d have had healing and help long ago , as well as healing between him and his mother.. it’s horirble all the way around … no one deserves to grow up feeling unloved and no one deserves to be killed either … all around it’s just so so sick and sad.

She did not deserve to be murdered, but this really shows how the hatred needed to build up this kind of crime usually takes years of resentment. He was failed by his parents, it's super sad.

@brokenglassandorangejuice4210

Жыл бұрын

I disagree

@bostonb4kedbeans

Жыл бұрын

@@brokenglassandorangejuice4210 and your reasoning?

@georgefloyd4143

Жыл бұрын

She deserved it

@slimjim1104

Жыл бұрын

@@brokenglassandorangejuice4210 well studies on the subject would disagree with you. It's not an excuse but its definitely a factor.a big one.

@yourmomlikesme644

Жыл бұрын

@@georgefloyd4143so , if your mother treated you the exact same way as she treated this man. you would kill your own mother? hmm.. yikes!

I feel like I actually understand this man and I feel so, so sad for him and his loneliness. If you grow up emotionally or physically abandoned and then watch the same people who were supposed to love you give that love they somehow didn’t have for you to another sibling…it does something to you. I had the same thoughts as a teen, I just never went through with the plan. I get it. It’s unfortunate that a person is dead. I can’t help but feel sad for the dude even though he did something terrible. The quote that’s in another comment “the child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel it’s warmth” is poetry and pure truth. I can’t finish this one but I just wanted to comment that growing up in that type of dynamic is so, so incredibly lonely and painful. I get it, even though it’s wrong.

@averysspookshowspectacular6205

Жыл бұрын

My wife grew up with a sociopathic narcissistic drug addled mother. She had two younger siblings who got treated *slightly* better than her (more neglected than abused). I can only imagine the level of harm and resentment if they were treated the way children SHOULD be treated while she was abused.

@lauren.b92

10 ай бұрын

Facts. Both my biological parents didn't want me and happily signed me over to my grandparents when I was 5. I grew up with LOADS of pain. Every single day but shit, you don't see me going out and murdering my birth mother. She will get her karma in due time. And if she doesn't on earth, then God will make sure she gets hers. People who were loved by their parents have no fucking idea how it feels to be abandoned by the person who gave BIRTH to them and it's so unfair in a way. This world is fucked up man. I hate it.

@raphaellavictoria01

9 ай бұрын

...and that child who burns down the village should burn too, as a punishment for his evil. That's my personal quote. NO justification. We've all been hurt in various ways. Some were hurt int he same way as him, and they didn't kill anyone. Therefore, he is evil.

@amberspaulding

6 ай бұрын

He did it, instead of just giving up.

Wow this one is tough! I see how not getting the love, guidance and support from your closest family could push someone over the edge! But all I get from this is sadness! Just sadness 😢

The female detective needs to resign, if you can’t keep your emotions in check you shouldn’t be in these field. What a poor performance on her part, she clearly was asked to leave after the knocks, someone outside could see she wasn’t keeping her emotions in check. They already had the confession, there was no need to be so aggressive.

I feel bad for this man. I wish he could’ve just took time to self reflect, sober up, and try to talk to someone.

@tabby73

Жыл бұрын

He did have a therapist. Maybe it wasn't a good one or the process was too slow.

@justinparkerthewildwolf6394

Жыл бұрын

Hatred can really destroy the soul

@NorthernGreenEyes

Жыл бұрын

@@justinparkerthewildwolf6394 Not nurturing and loving a child you chose to bring into 2 the world can also change them significantly. It's just as important as food and water imo. Babies who aren't held, cuddled, interacted with, and who are just left with the most minimum of care but no holding, hugs, love, no expressions, etc. It'd be like having a cold robot 🤖 mother minus the "mothering" just diaper, food, nap, rinse. There was a controversial experiment but it's late and the name isn't coming to me. I suppose there's many factors that can influence someone's life from birth throughout. Sad anyway you put it. It's obvious this young man had several issues and he probably would've thived had he had attention, affection and basic nurturing.

@holdencawffle626

Жыл бұрын

I don't feel sorry for him one bit

@justinparkerthewildwolf6394

Жыл бұрын

@@NorthernGreenEyes thanks for communicating so well like that. Not many people bother to put a nice response together, I appreciate that. It's really sad that a seemingly decent kid can be so deeply hurt, and actually need to destroy the one responsible. I'm feeling a bit strange right now. The child's need for love. It's no joke. The lack of love, and the wrath in response to the lacker. Its perfectly normal reaction really . Not in the law but in reality. I feel he balanced the books for himself and the world should try harder to understand . Fuck his mum

These are the types of murderers I believe are capable of rehabilitation. I'M NOT SAYING HIS ACTIONS WERE RIGHT AT ALL, but years of abuse can damage a child (yes 18 is still a child the frontal lobe isn't fully formed until roughly 24 yrs old) so I believe with alot of trauma therapy he could be a productive, caring, successful human being. Just my opinion.... I'd be interesting in hearing what others think!

@joditorkelson8649

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you. I hope he gets out before he’s an old man.

@darknebula310

Жыл бұрын

I agree. We're all stupid as kids, and yes 18 is still a KID. We're stupid at least until our mid 20s, sometimes later lol

@mrd3016

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you are. You just did.

@toymomofthree7870

Жыл бұрын

@@mrd3016 No, I'm saying he isn't a Ted Bundy or sociopath. Yes there should be consequences, but I hope the punishment isn't a life sentence because, in my opinion, he can be rehabilitated. He didn't murder the whole house. He left his sister alone despite her getting the love he didn't. It shows compassion and empathy and he wasnt trying to cover his tracks or cover up the crime.

@keeper6458

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you

His "mother" was the real monster

Sounds like his mother brought this on herself. You never know the consequences of being an abusive or neglectful mother.

I was locked up with Joshua in 2018 we slept in the same area in the open bay units in falkenburg county jail and I have tbh he was the nicest person I ever met and he prayed with me alot.i don't get how he was even in the situation

@sweetascandyxoxo

10 ай бұрын

I’m actually really glad to hear he prays, thank you for sharing ❤ god bless you…

@nowirehangers2815

4 ай бұрын

Does the devil answer?

I feel sorry for this boy. All he needed was a loving family. He sounds very intelligent . Such a shame

@ashleighmackenzie8670

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. Of course she didn’t deserve what happened to her. But she failed that boy.

@DeePolar.

Жыл бұрын

Boy 😂 this a grown ass man

@mccorkleee3375

Жыл бұрын

@@DeePolar. and you’re a grown ass man who spends his life chronically online. ❤

@santaclaus3077

Жыл бұрын

This is how society is today…feeling sorry for a murderer smh

@DeePolar.

Жыл бұрын

@@mccorkleee3375 that’s makes no sense what so ever 😂😂😂😂😂😂 the fact that you’re so mentally screwed you could try and assume someone’s life and actually believe yourself lmao 🤣 . Rather someone is chronically on or offline it doesn’t define their character☠️ I’m at work on the phone as I type😭😭😭

“i did spice today” “so you haven’t done anything to alter your mind today or in the last few days” dumb as shi

These detectives trying to play psychiatrist. He's got better handling of his mental health.

I feel for him. He's so numb and cold. He could have been so much more had he just known unconditional love.

@aljabirxiju9475

Жыл бұрын

funny how the females all sympathize. you just think he is cute and want to sleep with him.

@Jacob-od5yo

Жыл бұрын

He had friends tho

@elonmust7470

Жыл бұрын

Stop feeling sorry for weak ass people... Life gets SOOOOO much worse than it is for this kid...

@zipsthespacebandit595

Жыл бұрын

@@Jacob-od5yo that does not equal unconditionally love from family. Friends come and go

These detectives seem to have grown up in a stable home. They don’t get what it’s like to go through the things that this kid did. Can’t even seem to imagine it for the sake of this situation. They both were not coming at it with an open mind and wanting to see if from another perspective. Both already made up their minds and were trying to get him to say what they wanted to hear. Bringing up the fact that he was jealous? Or not believing that he’s genuinely sorry? Sheesh.

@kwazimokava6499

10 ай бұрын

Yes so true.

@jenniferharper-christas4825

7 ай бұрын

He admitted it, there was nothing else for them to decide.

Holy smokes! The female detective is ANNOYING! “I don’t want to put words in your mouth”, then keeps putting words in his mouth. She wouldn’t even let the kid talk.

Christ these detectives are not skilled at getting the accused to talk - even when he is volunteering 🤷🏼‍♀️

Oh no, it's that female detective! I watched this on another channel the other day, but this is much shorter and she doesn't seem as bad. She's horrendous in the full interrogation!

Tough case. This is the only case where I've actually wondered if life in prison is the right move... Im not convinced he's a monster, but our "Corrections" system will not do anything to help him.

@alexanderorr2528

Жыл бұрын

It didn't say without parole so he could technically start applying for it in 25 years I believe but whether he'd get it is a different matter. I agree though, while he obviously should serve a lengthy prison sentence to pay for his crime I think there is basically a 0% chance of him reoffending since this was a very sad and complicated neglect scenario. If our system truly is intended to rehabilitate those able to join society and contribute instead of sitting in a cage costing the taxpayers 50k a year then he seems like a prime candidate.

@donnahilton471

Жыл бұрын

Until his low self esteem causes him to slit his wife's throat because danced with another man or said hi to someone.

@Jacob-od5yo

Жыл бұрын

Dude beat his mother to death with a bat that's kinda a monster dude bad childhood dosnt excuse anything

I remember as a child around 5 or 6 years old, I would threatened my mom, saying I would run away from home. Her response, "go ahead, I don't care." That burned me to the core. My relationship with her was emotionally distant but deep down, I loved her unconditionally. I knew towards the end of her passing, she loved me unconditionally as well. I became her caretaker and she sometimes would do or say things that brought flashbacks of what I remember she said when I was younger about running away. That feeling of abandonment and being unloved. I would snap and say mean things to her. I think about her everyday and instead of resentment, I feel regret and guilt for the things I said to her.

@RapturereadyforJesus

Жыл бұрын

When I told my mom I was running away she told me she would help me pack. I was crushed. How hard is it to say “don’t go”?

@purrroudbeauty

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this. 🙏

I knew a man who was abandoned in an orphanage by his mother at 4 yrs of age - he was sexually abused by staff and had a tragic life but his proudest possession was a photo of himself with his mother - that horrible selfish female was the woman he adored and longed for all his life - so sad

To me, that female detective was too aggressive and not paying attention as Josh had already said he was coming down from "spice" but she insinuated that he hadn't done any drugs for a few days. To me, she was trying to get him to confess to be a cold-hearted murderer. I personally have great empathy for Josh. Being told by your mother you weren't wanted is cruel and creates a self identity of thinking of yourself as having little or no meaningful purpose for being. It is easy to see how an 18 year old would feel a desire to eliminate that that created him with yet didn't find him of value. Breaks my heart for all concerned. Wish I could just hold Josh and let him feel wanted, cared for.

@trentevenson8988

Жыл бұрын

She was hired because of a woman quota needing to be filled.

@charlotteallenny

Жыл бұрын

I'm only half way through but yeah she's making me want to scream, listen to him speak and stop trying to twist everything he says into proof that it was premeditated. Damn.

@simbasue

Жыл бұрын

This female detective is obviously trying to be a star and she's way out of her league.

@jonmikolajewski7167

Жыл бұрын

And I thought she was gonna break the mold. The first thing she said kept him from shutting down. After that she only harmed the interrogation.

@startinajackson606

Жыл бұрын

Me to, he's a good soul, I can see him. I pray God helps him

I know he did a horrible thing but man I kinda feel bad for him. His mother went out of her way to make him feel unloved and unwanted

@nica88

Жыл бұрын

I can’t imagine making my own child feel as though they were a burden to me and that I didn’t really give a damn about them. Sad.

@Jinka1950

Жыл бұрын

Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute there’s millions of people in the world who had the same kind of mother and none of them resorted to what this psycho did. Stop excusing bad behavior on history.

@HalfNHalf.

Жыл бұрын

@@Jinka1950 nobody is excusing his behavior. You can feel bad for someone but not condone their actions. And just because the majority of people wouldn’t resort to murder, doesn’t make it impossible for it to happen. Everyone’s situations are different but of course, murder is never ok.

@dianekelly2212

Жыл бұрын

So his mum didn’t care for him or so he says …he still had no right to kill her

@blahblaahh3004

Жыл бұрын

@@Jinka1950 the fact that you aren't able to understand that not everyone has the same brain says it all. Some people also have psychological disorders that can also play a part in this type of crime, understanding something doesn't mean that we are excusing it. We just appreciate that everyone is an individual, not carbon copies of each other. Just because you think that everyone who has been abused should think the same, doesn't make it so.

These two are so hungry for info that they can’t shut up and let him speak