Lord of the Rings actually tackles this idea as well, just not at a personal level like Frieren. The Elves cope with living forever by creating realms for themselves where they don't have to experience it. Rivendell and Lothlorien are basically unchanging and immune to the passage of time, which is why there's always calendar wonkiness when characters visit. The nature of these realms is supported by the Three Rings which is why they're only reluctantly willing to destroy the One Ring, since its existence supports the existence of the others. Once the One Ring is destroyed, the lands the Elves built for themselves start to change and age and the Elves are unable to cope with that and eventually all leave Middle Earth for the Undying Lands.

@Aerith0823

28 күн бұрын

Agreed! This, on top of how Arwen chooses to give up her immortality to stay and die with Aragorn. That's always been one of my favorite parts of the LotR story.

I feel like an immortal would see humans somewhat how we see fish. When I was a kid we had a huge fish tank with guppies, since they were the cheapest and simplest to take care of, but also had their own flare in the form of their scale colors that were all different - and then they'd breed, their children had colors similar to their parents in a new mix of patterns. But, of course, guppies only had a lifespan of a couple months, and it wasn't long before I had to experience the ritual that every fish owner has to perform to lay their aquatic friends to rest. At first it was said... then the next time, it was melancholy then, it was normal. And over time I grew to get more attached to the lineages of my favorite fish rather than their individual lives. I went from naming my fish to giving them family names, identifying them by their colors passed down over generations, and enjoying the overarching view of these short but colorful lives that I was curating. The saddest part for me wasn't the end of an individual life, but the end of a dynasty passed down sometimes for years, because their family colors would no longer grace my world. That informed a lot of how I tend to see and write immortal characters - in my fictional world, immortals tend to be either the advisors to family lines or the rulers of nations, seeing their people in terms of how we see fish, these terribly fragile but also beautiful creatures that they're charged with curating and maintaining over generations. The immortal king doesn't cry for a single man's death, but takes pride in seeing that man's son take over the business that has thrived for generations and contributed greatly to the nation as a whole, anticipating what additions that son will make to their family line. Every individual is but a link in a great chain, and their contributions to society live on in the eyes of these immortal observers, and in the tangible effects they left behind. It may seem callous to a human that an immortal would care more for a building their ancestors constructed than for them as a person, but in the immortal's eyes, that building and the function it serves are the lasting legacy of a family line who devoted generations to improving the world they lived in, while the current individual presiding over it is merely the latest inheritor - not the first, and hopefully not the last, because the loss of a family line en totalle is more tragic to an immortal than the death of any one individual, as it's the death of an entire legacy.

@nickelpickel1997

Күн бұрын

That's an intriguing and fresh way of presenting immortals !f you'd be willing to share, I'd love to read some of your stories.

@null3007

23 сағат бұрын

very well made comment

I also think the symbolism of the meteor shower burning out as Himmel looks at it shows us how fleeting life as it burns out and comes again in a generation for the next humans to see. But for Frieren it is a constant that goes by so often that she knows where it might look best.

I enjoy Frieren for the same reasons that Cowboy Bebop is one of my favorite shows ever. It's a show about characters where the setting and plot generally exist for the purpose of accenting the characters personalities, flaws, and strengths vs having characters who exist to push along the plot.

I know this isn't at all the main point of the video. But I think Frieren choosing magic as something to pursue amidst the lack of anything else to do touches on a very real concept. While there's always exception, and this won't apply to everyone. I've found it can be very helpful to set yourself both long-term and short-term goals to work toward in your life. Without anything to work toward, you can sometimes feel your life might be meaningless, and so much like how video games can keep someone hooked via daily login bonuses, quests, battle passes, and weekly rewards. You can also help keep yourself motivated, and by extension happy, by setting a list of short-term and long-term goals to work toward. Sorry if this isn't really the place for existential advice on finding happiness in life, but I hope the extra video-engagement at least helps more people see your awesome videos. Keep up the good work man !

@PeyTalksAnime

2 ай бұрын

nah this is a great comment! I agree :)

the only show where it actually made me realise how immortality has its ups and downs

If I was fríeren I would have found a hair growing spell

@PeyTalksAnime

2 ай бұрын

somehow you'd still end up bald

@zurielsss

2 ай бұрын

Which kind of hair ?

@KinDiedYesterday

16 күн бұрын

​@@zurielssspuebes

They tackle this concept a lot in vampire fiction, but I love how you tied this concept in with the fantasy genre.

I have been waiting for you to do a video on Frieren! And it's gonna be a series?! I fell in love with the adaptation that I read the manga starting on where the show ended. Just wanted to share, idk if it's just me but there's this creeping sadness? as we witness the current journey Frieren is on. Knowing that some decades after it ends, she'll be alone again. It makes me want to treasure all of the characters introduced so far.

Goddamn, you're making me cry over this anime all over again! Watching the first three episodes of Frieren for the first time is an experience i'll never forget. I wish there was more media that hit me in the feels like this show does; it's always the symbolism and the "show, don't tell" part of beautiful stories that make me tear up. Frieren is definitely my favorite anime.

I’ve already seen a couple of these videos of yours without even knowing it was a series you were doing. Looking forward to watching them all

As someone whose favorite childhood book is Tuck Everlasting, I appreciate the writing of Freiren a lot.

I think you'll enjoy Apothecary Diaries too. It's a psychological mystery thriller set in Imperial China with one of the best main characters of the decade.

Thank you so much for exploring the profound grief that Frieren experiences with the loss of everyone she cares about after such a short time! I thought it was so wonderful that the story allowed her to address her regrets stemming from her experiences with her first party with the way she interacts with her second party and the overarching mission they undertake! So grief, but not hopelessness. ❤

Thank you for this beautiful love letter to one of the greatest shows of our time Truly, thank you for these words.

this is becoming my new favourite channel LOL keep uo the good workk

That little bit of editing at 2:10 was perfect. Continuing to smoothly explain things, while using the visual medium to convey more information. It's half an editing flourish, and half a meaningful piece of information. Very classy.

Yearly reminder that we are the elves to our dogs. The hours they spent waiting for you at work, or outside your door while you busied yourself were days to them. Cats? Nah they are the elves. I firmly believe they remember all 9 lives.

I’d want to find a spell that keeps hair and toe nails the exact size you cast them as 😂

This masterpiece is atemporal

outsdanding job, pey!

@PeyTalksAnime

2 ай бұрын

thank you!!

What if they just have a more controlled hormone system, and also some controll over what information they store in there brain. They were made to be inmortals.

@PeyTalksAnime

2 ай бұрын

that's a super interesting point. I have some trans friends that have gone through hrt and they shared that at times it felt like they were going through a second puberty and they were like, "no wonder i was so emotionally volatile as a teenager, hormones are nuts" and i wonder if elves development and mental inclination is at all proportional to their long lives? Is frieren still in her 20s mentally despite having lived so long????

@markfeeer2149

2 ай бұрын

Yours cloud be an example. Or they just have a kind of compressed memory, a mind palace. More advanced brain. And a great griefing process. Or they just live in the moment.

About immortality or long living being, we already got Kinsou no Vermeil. The idea of showing the perspective of long living being is great for a story but Kinsou no Vermeil failed the base character design and story overall. The only good thing from that title is the ending song which reflects to the story and feels like the immortal being writes the lyric. The storytelling on the ending song is better than the anime.

Excellent video on immorality! As you say, Mother Nature does not create immortal living things. Natural Selection would not work to sort through mutations finding new good ones, if the species lived forever. That's why my dogs pass so fricking soon compared to my life and I hate, always saying goodbye. Frieren is so real in this respect, not fantasy at all.

Also I think later down the line we see Serie the teacher of Flama who taught Frieren. Serie dislikes all her students in some ways as or at least she doesn't show love to them directly. Serie tells Frieren that she might be killed by a human mage and the time of humans has come. She fails Frieren because of the difference in ideology even though it is a peaceful era. Also the bit with the Demon using Zoltraak being 80 years ago and humans learning to counter act in that time. Yet still not being able to understand the deepness and complexity of magic. Frieren feels time like the demons but the demons seems to be animalistic and Elves being close to humans seems to be numbed by time like Serie is after seeing all the death and passing of all her students.

What is the name of the music you use for the background of this video? Its absolutely beautiful!

I like your insights. Im happy that I found someone who analysizes this great Manga/Anime. But I would like to tell you one thing. While you are explaining and talking in your videos. You talk so fast. Not to fast that non-native english speakers cant understand you. It is not that. It is that, so often throughout your videos you are stringing thought, after thought, after thought together. We as an audience cant even think about your first point because you rush through your sentences/points that there is no "mental break". It is not about giving us 30 seconds of time. But sometimes 2 seconds can do a lot Keep up the work!

@PeyTalksAnime

2 ай бұрын

not the first time Ive been given this feedback, thank you for the perspective. It's something I've been working on in my most recent videos!

Tuck Everlasting

Its nothing terrifying in living forever, its just our own copium to deal with death. In Firen's story realistically problem is that her friends dont last fore ever, not that she is.

does anyone know name of the music from 1:18 to about 4:20?

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