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@derekstaroba

Жыл бұрын

Ja - zeus

@darklordots

Жыл бұрын

Limited POA?

@alananimus9145

Жыл бұрын

I am really glad this video exists. Now how about the apostles?

@derekstaroba

Жыл бұрын

@@alananimus9145 also you can see the letter yod in yeshua name. This is the smallest letter in that alphabet and jesus aka yeshua mentioned it cleverly when he said not one jot of the law shall pass away. This is also the first letter of the tetragammatron of yod he vav he which god said who he was to moses at the burning bush (i am who i am or i am what i shall prove to be or simply i am the truth)

@juniorpatriciocruz53

Жыл бұрын

Jesus Fictional Christ

As a linguist, I really appreciate you included IPA transcriptions for each potential pronunciation of Yeshua.

@Armelion1Music

Жыл бұрын

👏👏👏👏👏

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus

@TechBearSeattle

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 - Sure, let's just ignore two professional scholars and accept your thoughts on the matter.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

​@@TechBearSeattle What makes you think I'm not a scholar? And being on youboob doesn't make one a professional. I was born and raised Orthodox Jew read and write Hebrew and studied in Yeshiva - Talmud, Zohar Kabbala, and Baal Shem Tov. These guys talk some extra biblical stuff in making their case but they are Bible and Gospel illiterates. John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

@rootkite

Жыл бұрын

I agree the phonetic transcriptions are very helpful! But they aren't IPA; for instance, the voiceless alveolar fricative would be transcribed as /ʃ/ and not as in this (fantastic) video, and the vowel lengths would also not be represented by diacritics. It appears to be NAPA in fact; regardless, the phonological representations do really help :)

As a Hebrew speaker this is fascinating! In modern hebrew we see the guttural vowels disappear too. Thank you, Andrew, great video as usual.

@starcapture3040

Жыл бұрын

free palestine

@TalLikesThat

Жыл бұрын

@@starcapture3040 I, as Jewish Israeli man fully agree. A Palestinian state is long overdue right here where they lived for centuries. Sadly, I am in the minority here. It's so freaking frustrating that seeing the Palestinian people as, well, people, is a radical opinion today. It is infuriating.

@starcapture3040

Жыл бұрын

@@TalLikesThat So you agree for one democratic secular civil state with new constitution and flag. including return of the Palestinian refugees to their cities?

@mikenyr4life491

Жыл бұрын

@@starcapture3040 That has already happened when Israel shook off the shackles of Islamic Imperialism and reclaimed Israel. Pre 1964 if you called a Muslim in Israel a Palestinian they would have killed you the same as you calling them a Jew. Go and look at the 1938 Palestine Flag with a Star of David on it, or the Palestinian coins with Menorahs and Stars of David on them, or even look at the Palestine Museum that only has a photo of Arafat in it and is otherwise empty.

@starcapture3040

Жыл бұрын

@@mikenyr4life491 There is no such thing as israel in history. imagine naming land of others by some jews who immigrated to it from Mesopotamia by this word The one who wrestled with god. israel has only right to exist in the Torah no where else unless you think british imperialism is way go but pooo Muslims who allowed jews into the land of the aramaic canaanites again after being completely banished by Christion romans who named the jews as jesus killers. Palestine belong to its people the brits have no right to occupy other people 's land than give the land to settlers who decided the land belong to them by God signature... this tragic and laughable at the same time.

In Hindi and Indian languages we've always called him Yeshu "येशु"

@Sephiroth144

Жыл бұрын

Gesundheit.

@piyush93688

Жыл бұрын

Not always. Christians themselves exclusively use Yeshu. I've been to church. But commonly he is called Isa which is a borrowing from Arabic.

@user-mz7bh1eh9v

Жыл бұрын

In Hindi, Punjabi, and Urdu we actually call him ईसा (Isa), not येशू

@YoniIsrael

Жыл бұрын

this is also how modern hebrew callls him

@Johnny-pj9hd

Жыл бұрын

Yehshua still wrong, correctly its Yahshua represents Yah and Shua is salvation so Yahshua

I am ashamed as a Christian believer that I did not know this... this changes so much for me. Thank you so much for educating us on this. I and many others truly appreciate it.

@pynjanaisyiemlieh1564

Жыл бұрын

Dont be ashamed because faith is going directly under your heart not on the outer face many can fool you on the outer face but they cannot fool you deeply heart... he is there always with you.

@beastvader

Жыл бұрын

Never be ashamed for learning something new. As a devout Muslim, I too learn new things about my faith on a daily basis and it's a beautiful thing 🙂

@rizkyadiyanto7922

Жыл бұрын

christian is a fake religion. thats why.

@gibsonpike8039

Жыл бұрын

@Pynjanai Syiemlieh indeed beautifully said but who is everyone praying to then thats what i wanna know

@anthonywarren9885

Жыл бұрын

It's kinda obvious seeing that Jesus is Latin. Not Hebrew. I'm sorry to tell you this but a VAST majority of the Christian bible is a mistranslation.

Andrew always comes out with the most interesting topics.

@ReligionForBreakfast

Жыл бұрын

I thought this would be an easy video to write. Easy answer: "Yeshua." Then I dug too deep into the scholarship on pharyngeal consonants O_o

@calvincoolidge8109

Жыл бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast MOMMY!!!

@mr.god.complex

Жыл бұрын

@@calvincoolidge8109 ayo dude ain’t u dead?

@alpha4IV

Жыл бұрын

Interestingly, his original name is Breakfast. It was a scribal note that added the “Religion for”. Later scribes just started putting them together by mistake. No one really knows why people started calling him “Andrew.”

@IcemanJuice

Жыл бұрын

@@ReligionForBreakfast I always thought that was the name. Excited to see the true original.

In Arabic, Jesus's name differs depending on whether it's the Christian or Muslim version: for Christians, his name is "Yassou^" with the "guttural Ayn sound" at the end (one of six Arabic throat based letters), and for Muslims his name is "^eessa" with the Ayn at the beginning of the name. Moreover, the prophet Yusha^ Ibn Noon is named like that in the Qur'an, as if they each had different names!

@RifqiPriyo

Жыл бұрын

It's عيسى /ʕiː.saː/ with long a and single s. The other one is يسوع /ja.suːʕ/ with long u and single s.

@starcapture3040

Жыл бұрын

عessa

@drgjs58727

Жыл бұрын

Yes, with my Malayalam and Syriac heritage plus having been brought up in the Gulf, the variations were always fascinating and I just realised that the ع is at opposite ends for the two commonly seen Arabic forms of the name.

@jamieammar6131

Жыл бұрын

@@hm4084 He is not named in the Quran, not even in the hadith. Quranic commentators, or exegesis guys name him like that.

@alomaralsulaiman6501

Жыл бұрын

@@hm4084 He is mentioned in the Quran as the follower of moses, but not by his name.

As a cantonese speaker, we address Jesus as Yesou which amazingly close to the original pronunciation despite both languages comes from different era and region.

@bradamdor2843

Ай бұрын

As a Cantonese you should call on the MASHIAH of YISRAEL by HIS TRUE NAME. It's a no brainer brother !!! Only HIS HEBREW NAME MEANS SALVATION.

@MochaQueen5

14 сағат бұрын

​@@bradamdor2843these names don't appear in the Bible for a good reason because they are not his name his name is Jesus.

@bradamdor2843

11 сағат бұрын

@@MochaQueen5 cut a long story short, the name jesus is only 400yrs old and was created by a PAGAN catholic bunch.

This could have been a dry subject, but you and Dr. Suchard did a great job at making it interesting as well as informative. Great work.

Great video! As a Muslim & Arabic speaker (sister language to Hebrew), it’s noteworthy to mention that the Qur’ān interestingly calls Jesus “‘Īsa” (with a guttural ‘Ayn at the BEGINNING-not end), contrary to what many modern Arab Christians today call Jesus, which is “Yesū’” with the hard ‘Y’ sound and guttural ‘A’ at the end (in alignment with the Hebrew ‘Yeshū’’. So the Qur’ān seems to be paralleling the Eastern Syriac pronunciation of “Isho” or “Isu” as mentioned in the video, but converting the Shīn (‘sh-‘) into an S-sound, while retaining a guttural Ayn, that it places at the beginning. Of course, as a Muslim, I am biased towards believing “Isho” or “Isu” to be the correct & original historical pronunciation by Jesus’s townsfolk. But I guess we’ll never know for exact sure, academically speaking. Also interestingly however, is that it’s been found by recent ancient Arabian inscriptions that the name “‘Īsa” (as the Qur’ān uses it) existed before Islam presumably for the name of Jesus, and which bore the meaning of “to purchase or redeem” (in apparent connection with the belief of Christ’s sacrificial atonement), but which also very well may have been a later meaning ascribed to the name by Christians as a result of their theology, rather than the other way around. I hope Andrew can make another video discussing the exact MEANING of the name “Jesus” (or Yeshu/Iso) in all of these different dialectical variations (of course “God saves” is a classic interpretation), and how that contributed if at all to people’s thoughts & views of Jesus in the early period. Either way, thanks for the dropping the knowledge!

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus

@eskarinakatz7723

Жыл бұрын

The Shin can have a dot on one side or the other that changes it from an sh to an s. I’m not sure how recent a development that is, though.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@eskarinakatz7723 It doesn't matter since Yeshua cannot be Jesus' name. The name has to interpret as "God With Us". Joshua/Yeshua does not translate as that. So not the name. A Greek alternative was used. Something like Zusa, using Zeus as the generic word for God.

@YFanoush

Жыл бұрын

According to the Quran, the name variations of Jesus (pbuh) comes in two forms عيسى (Isa) with the sound Ain in the beginning and يسوع (Yasua) with the sound Ain at the end, and when connecting the idea of the name development in the region it seems to me that the name is derived from another name which is يوشع بن نون (Yausha Bin Noon) with the Ain at the end of the first name, the commander who lead the tribes to the holy land.

@jeffreyerwin3665

Жыл бұрын

A recent issue of Biblical Archaeology Review had a article about the origin of "Isa" as the Muslim name for the Jewish rabbi, Yeshu ben Pantera.

Fantastic video. In my native Malayalam, Jesus is called Yeshu and we have a vibrant Syriac community who say Eesho

@magnisky

Жыл бұрын

I can agree with that, my dad who is Bengali was born in December 25th, so his family nickname is Zeesu (pronounced very similar to Yeshu). I always thought it’s similar to “Jesus” but not. I come to find out now my dads nickname is closer to ancient pronunciation. Lol.

@johannesziaether3916

Жыл бұрын

Interesting because Eesho is basically the same as his islamic name aka Eessa Usually "sh" from Hebrew or Aramaic becomes "s" in Arabic and "o" becomes "a" Christians usually call him Yaasuu in Arabic, which is basically Yeshua from Aramaic

@affinityxs

Жыл бұрын

No way, I'm also a Malayali 😊. I'm also part of the Syriac community as well

@drgjs58727

Жыл бұрын

@@affinityxs Namaskaaram fellow traveler!

@drgjs58727

Жыл бұрын

@@magnisky wow, I'd love to know how the Z got in there 😁

Really enjoyed this video. Thank you! As an Assyrian born in America, I really enjoy getting to hear the different pronunciations

I had a much less educated version of this conversation yesterday, but this did confirm what I understood. Thank you!

Some perspective from a different side of the world: I live in Kerala, India. Where Christianity arrived fairly early, there are legends that St. Thomas himself had come to the shores of Kerala. The region was an important part of the spice trade hub (Black Pepper is originally from here) and had trade relations going back to antiquity with the near East. There were populations of Jews in Kerala during the time Christianity spread around here, either because of that (earliest converts being Jews who might have spoken a similar dialect) or because the earliest Christians having been converted by people who spoke such a dialect themselves, people usually say 'Yešu/Yēšu' here for Jesus. However the Syriac form also exists in the vernacular 'Išo' (and there are Syriac Churches here from later Syriac Christians arriving here). Archaic names like 'Yohannan' exist here. YHWH is pronounced 'Yahо̄va/Yehо̄va'. Christianity here followed quite a different trajectory from the West until the arrival of the Portugese (Vasco da Gama) and is worth studying on its own. PS: I haven't read any academic discussions on what might the Jews of Kerala before the advent of Christianity might have spoken (or whether they were even a homogenous group of their own). It is also quite likely that they might've adopted the regional language to some extent, having intermarried with the local population somewhat.

@maiyenish8552

Жыл бұрын

Rauzabal, meaning the Honored Tomb. It is known as the tomb of Yuz Asaf.

@caniblmolstr4503

Жыл бұрын

I am one of those Syrian Christians. So can attest to it. Thomas came to Kerala exactly because of the Spice trade. If you look at Jew history you would notice am interesting fact... The only place they lived peacefully without any issues from the locals was Kerala. So Kerala had a very sizable Jew population. So one might ask why doesn't it have that much now? Well most of these Jews just went to Israel. Malayalam is even now taught in their schools due to it

@AvoniasStratigis

Жыл бұрын

@@caniblmolstr4503 Cochin Jews aren't that large diaspora wise, are they? I've heard that a lot of Jews initially might've converted to Christianity as well. And after a point in time, the people coming for trade became overwhelmingly Christian as opposed to any other faith. Although much of what I've read are 'books' on the topic, written by local historians but without references to solid papers.

@AvoniasStratigis

Жыл бұрын

@@caniblmolstr4503 This is new to me. Cool! Where can I read more about the Swahilis and the Cholas?

@legendwarkingherowarkinglo7156

Жыл бұрын

@@caniblmolstr4503 are you vegetarians?

Very interesting! I had always wondered why in mandarin, Jesus was pronounced like 耶穌 (Yēsū), now it all makes sense!

@praevasc4299

Жыл бұрын

It's fascinating that the Chinese (where only a tiny percentage is Christian) pronounce the name of Jesus better than English speakers (where Christianity is the majority religion)

@tiagorodrigues3730

Жыл бұрын

@@praevasc4299 This is because Jesus's name (as well as Peter's, John's and even Caesar's name) evolved along with the languages, while the Chinese borrowed the pronunciation from Latin /ˈjeː.suːs/ in the Sixteenth Century from the Jesuits who arrived with the Portuguese.

@lukelim5094

Жыл бұрын

@@tiagorodrigues3730 it is so funny American butcher the original pronunciation of Jesus now then. All things considered. That is ironic.

@vincentyap3188

Жыл бұрын

@@praevasc4299 When jesus going to leave this world, he instructed his 12 students to spread his teaching and gospel to the whole world, at that time there is no plane, where Israel is nearer to the west, so the west should receive first, and follow by others, later

@Iskatel.Priklyucheniy

8 ай бұрын

А зачем китайцам Иисус?😅

Orthodox Jew here. Great video, and great info on the difference in pronunciation of the Aramaic compared to Hebrew, not many people know that. We see this a lot when we study Talmud. I would caution that Yeshu is mentioned on the Talmud, but we still don’t know if it’s referring to subject of the video specifically. Second Temple Judaism dealt with a of Sectarian heretics, so we do not know if “Yeshu” in the Talmud is referring to this specific Yeshu. Yeshu written in the Talmud is either יש׳ו or ישו, regardless the it is an acronym for ימח שמו וזכרו (Yimach Shemo V’Zikhro) or “May his name be blotted out from history”

Nicely broken down. It's like in a language class when the teacher asks for your name I that language. I always used my middle name as my first name doesn't have a translation in most languages.

It's weird that even in Thailand they seem to pronounce it very close to what is presented here as original Aramaic; in Thai, Jesus is pronounced 'yay-su'. (su as 'soo', as in 'super') Typically with the 'phra' honorific that's also used for Buddhist monks and teachers: Phra Yesu. I'm now wondering if this is because of earlier exposure to Jesus' name by middle eastern contacts, or that it's just because in Thai you can't really have an S at the end of a word, or else it'll become a 't' sond which wouldn't sound nice so 19th century Western missionaries went with Yesu..

@nadheem420

Жыл бұрын

Thailand had contact with the early missionaries of Christianity the same way the west coast of india did(mainly just Keralas coast). The trade brought the early missionaries to se asia

@charliedoucette2249

Жыл бұрын

Same in Korean. 예수 yesu

@janettedavis6627

Жыл бұрын

Similar to Latin. Jesu

@BlueNanoBox

Жыл бұрын

Similar to contemporary Mandarin Chinese!

@richielogosu7841

Жыл бұрын

@@janettedavis6627 in twi which is a language spoken in Ghana, it is Yesu

As always, I love your thoroughness and the level of detail you go into in these videos. I’ve always wondered why in Modern Hebrew we say “Yeshu” (ישו) rather than what I thought was the authentic form of the name, Yeshua (ישוע).

@adrianblake8876

Жыл бұрын

I've heard that this was a variation, and the it was a common name at the time (though I was never given evidenceof other "Yeshu"s). There's a folk etymology that "yeshu" is an acronym for a defamation, but it's never written as an acronym either...

@atbing2425

Жыл бұрын

The folk etymology is ישו, ימך שמו וזכרו (May his name be erased). But obviously it's simply a short ישוע. Like they said in the video the a at the end was added later so the pharyngeal ע was simply deleted in some biblical Hebrew dialects (just like modern Hebrew).

@adrianblake8876

Жыл бұрын

@@atbing2425 I know the acronym, but as I said, if it were an acronym, we'd write the name as יש"ו which we don't...

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus

@v.p.stolat1217

Жыл бұрын

YA-HO-SHU-AH

This was a fun ride, great research and source material and as a believer this information is super useful.

@omarlittle-hales8237

3 ай бұрын

SALaM, SHLAMa, SHLOMo, SHALoM, NAMASTe, PEACe. Quran [Last Testament]: The Likeness Of Jesus Son Of Mary, Is Akin To Birth, To That Of Adam.

All your videos are great, thank you for creating one of the best channels on this platform.

“Go pick up your copy of the Septuagint” Right lemme go grab that.

@shainazion4073

Жыл бұрын

Many people have a copy of the Septuagint.

@sasshiro

Жыл бұрын

@@shainazion4073 exactly, you can order one online if not available at your local bookstore.

@eskarinakatz7723

Жыл бұрын

@@shainazion4073 A partial copy, at least. Some denominations have different sets of texts that may exclude certain books.

@shainazion4073

Жыл бұрын

@@eskarinakatz7723 The Septuagint is one book, the Tanakh that was translated to Greek. It was translated in the 3rd century BCE by 70 or 72 Jewish scholars, therefore named the Septuagint, or "the Seventy"

@eskarinakatz7723

Жыл бұрын

@@shainazion4073 Oh. Durp.

Thanks for being responsible with your sponsor and the way you constructed the ad portion. I actually watched the whole thing, resisting my strong urge to skip past lol Nicely done!

@bdwon

Жыл бұрын

Yes, his segue was smooth as silk.

@benjaminwatt2436

Жыл бұрын

i skipped ;)

@omarlittle-hales8237

3 ай бұрын

SALaM, SHLAMa, SHLOMo, SHALoM, NAMASTe, PEACe. Quran [Last Testament]: The Likeness Of Jesus Son Of Mary, Is Akin To Birth, To That Of Adam.

love your work! I think it’s interesting how in Arabic the name “Jesus” is written “عيسى", beginning with the gutteral Ayin and ending with the Aleph.

@marcopeterson805

Жыл бұрын

It's يسوع .

Awesome video, well done! Thanks for the work.

Huh, what's interesting is that in Russian Joshua is consistently translated as Jesus ('Iesous'). Russian Synodal Bible uses "Jesus" to refer to both Joshua son of Nun and Joshua the High Priest, as well as Jesus himself. The Old Testament was translated from Hebrew but they did take the Septuagint into consideration so maybe that's why the name stayed consistent. Great video, I never realised that Joshua and Jesus were the same name.

@mikewilliams6025

Жыл бұрын

Something Russian picked up from the Greek translator-missionaries who invented the Cyrillic alphabet and relied on the Septuagint.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus

@Copperkaiju

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 Mios dios, please stop spamming.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

@@Copperkaiju I'm not spamming - get your terms correct and F off.

@aboriginal1503

Жыл бұрын

it was fake anyway..Horus was his name when the Greeks ruled..Isis -Mary---Horus-->Jesus....4000 BC Greeks changed all the Africa religions...Serapis Christus 325 BC..

I find it pleasing that Jesus' name sounds like the greek "geia sou" meaning "hello there" or as a name,- "Greeter/Welcomer". Meaning Obi-Wan Kenobi is simply introducing himself as "Josh" and Lucasfilm knew of the priestly name meaning all along and was just teasing the story's christian undertones.

@kellydalstok8900

Жыл бұрын

In English it sounds like: yea sure. So what’s your point?

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus

@iapetusmccool

Жыл бұрын

@@termination9353 How about providing some evidence for that, rather than just copy/pasting the same assertions again and again.

@richarda.w.4562

Жыл бұрын

Love it

@rachelgarber1423

Жыл бұрын

@@iapetusmccool Exactly because people didn’t start using family or surnames until the 11th century

"Idiot Galilean..." I was about to make a joke about how silly it seemed for someone to call someone an idiot for having an accent. Then I remembered the world I live in. ☹️

I'm an Indian. In the Indian language of Malayalam, Jesus is called YESHU.

@debarghapaul866

2 ай бұрын

It is Jeeshu in Bengali

Linguistic nuance + Religion. Thanks I love it. ❤️

This is the 3rd video of yours I've checked out and I have to say I am wildly impressed bro. The depth of your research and the knowledge you impart is amazing on so many levels. Can't wait to hear more!

@mchevre

Жыл бұрын

lol it's because he literally has a PhD in this stuff.

This is one of the few videos I have downloaded to my phone. I love the introduction: “Brought to you by incogni: Jesus…”

Just watching this now. Your production team has a writer Andrew and an editor Mark 😂 Nice!

Very similar to the Arabic pronunciation. We also have the "Ain" problem. Names like Ali begin with the Ain letter

@karezaalonso7110

Жыл бұрын

Yes now. I wonder how Coptics and Ethiopian Christian Arabs say it.

@IbrahimAli-sx5lq

6 ай бұрын

@@karezaalonso7110I don't know about the Coptics but I can tell you about Ethiopians/Eritreans as I'm an Eritrean. Being the followers of the Oriental Orthodox Church and thus heavily influenced by the Greeks, they pronunce it as Yesus (የሱስ). In fact they say Yasus kristos (የሱስ ክርስቶስ) just like the Greeks . We (Eritreans) have the pharyngeal consonant ayn (ዕ) and other gutteral sounds though.

@karezaalonso7110

6 ай бұрын

@@IbrahimAli-sx5lq very interesting, it would be great if you could upload an audio demonstration..ie using KZread.

I love that the answer to a biblical question is best answered via the study of linguistic evolution. To see how much the pronunciation and writing of a name can change over such a short time opens up a veritable Pandora's Box of questions about how much the _stories_ changed from their original versions...as well as questions about which (if any) were even true.

@tiagorodrigues3730

Жыл бұрын

I fail to understand how the pronunciation of a name is a “Biblical” question and even more how pronunciation leads to questioning the transmission of a *written* corpus, particularly for the one text which has undergone the most textual criticism of all, with three hundred years of collating early sources and variant readings to narrow down exactly how much corruption there has been.

@doh4828

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You’d be amazed, especially with languages that are non-alphabetical.

@blackpalacemusic

11 ай бұрын

Names change more than stories.

@OmniphonProductions

11 ай бұрын

@@blackpalacemusic Fair point, but when the name changes from...say...Gilgamesh to Noah, losing the cultural and historical _root_ of the story in the process, it leaves open abundant opportunities to change the fine but _crucial_ details of the story to suit the needs and/or intentions of whoever is telling the story _this time._ Yeah?

I love how there were ancient pedants such as myself, correcting the grammar of others in similarly snarky and arrogant ways.

Very interesting as all your videos. I would like to ask if you would be interested in doing a video on Simon Peter's actual name, since there are a few variations in the new testament: Simon/Symeon, bar Jonah/son of John, Peter/Cephas.

excellent video, as always! i wanted to ask you - is it possible to include captions (not auto-generated ones because they're often times not great) in your videos? i have auditory processing disorder and even though you talk very clearly, i have to rewatch some parts. i always watch videos with captions if they're avaiable. it would make videos accesible for deaf people and people who learn english. thanks in advance!

Fun fact about furtive pataħ: Originally it was marked between the last letter and the letter before it, to indicate it is a vowel that is added between them (after the vowel which is marked under the previous consonant and before the last consonant) but because it was difficult to do so with typing machines it was marked under the last latter in print even though it is not supposed to be pronounced after the consonant unlike normal pataħ.

You have such an amazing and large channel. Please put captions that are better than auto-generated. Especially with videos like this. Thanks for the consideration.

As someone who talks, it was cool to see you talking in this video.

Just getting off work, saw this, immediately clicked, always a pleasure seeing new content.

Your channel is so unbelievably interesting! Every single video I’m watching and learning tons I never would have thought to research.

@AB-et6nj

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Crazy what scholars and scientists know and discover. So don't settle for common sense popular beliefs

@termination9353

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@@AB-et6nj Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus

@omarlittle-hales8237

3 ай бұрын

SALaM, SHLAMa, SHLOMo, SHALoM, NAMASTe, PEACe. Jesus's Son Of Mary's, Real Name: Arabic it's عِيسَى (Isa) and Aramaic is īšōʕ (Isho) I speak both languages.

Just out of curiosity, have you done any videos on early gnostic Christianity? Also, have you read the book a history of God, explaining where Judaism pulls from Babylonian religious texts? If not, you would be interested in it for sure! Solid videos, subscribed!

@theloner6063

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Read The Lost Book of Enki

@jlaurelle

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Earliest Christianity came from followers of The Way and were called Natsarim. Many of the beliefs of modern-day Christianity were not taken from the Tanak (Old Testament) or Yeshua/Yahusha/Yahusha/Yahushua but from paganism that infiltrated the Faith, particularly when the Roman Catholic Church took over the faith and forbade practicing Christians from reading their Bibles and started preaching a different gospel and also from all the converts coming in with their paganism. For example, the trinity and oneness doctrines cannot be found in Scripture but Christians are often taught these doctrines because they learned them at their Jesuit owned seminaries and Bible colleges. This goes for many other things such as Christmas and Easter which have nothing to do with our Messiah and everything to do with a Babylon, Tammuz, and Ishtar. Likewise, modern-day Judaism also has very little to do with the Tanak because men decided their own laws and traditions superseded the Laws of the Creator and this is why our Messiah reprimanded them constantly.

You need a million views!

my native language is western syriac. we use yeshua with long vowels and guttural ayn when referring to jesus. although isho' (short vowels + guttural ayn) is a common name but it is not used to refer to jesus. also great video man!

Andrew - do you want to learn how to say Jesus's real name Me - Yeah sure Andrew - Correct!

@J_Rees

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Nice

As a brazillian, I highlight the connection between the name "Ishu"/"Yeshu" and the Candomblé's divine entity, "Exu"/"Èsù". Both Jesus and Exu are related to pathways, with bible describing Jesus as the "pathway, truth and life", and Exu being referred as the guardian of pathways and crossroads.

In portuguese, Jesus is spelled just like in english, but the pronounce changes: the J is pronounced like it is in french and we put the intonation at the last syllable (like in spanish). However Joshua is totally different: Josué (the é is an open vowel, sounds something like ae).

I'm Chinese. We call Jesus “耶稣”(pinyin: Ye Su) in mandarin, so it is very close to the pronunciation of Jesus in Greek, Iesous. During Tang dynasty, we call Jesus“移鼠”(pinyin: Yi Shu), close to Ishu still. By the way, we call Grace “希腊”(pinyin: Xi La) in mandarin, also the same as Hellas in pronunciation in Greek itself.

@sarahwieland

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Not mainland China, correct?

@user-dt6zl8ff7f

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@@sarahwieland No, exactly in mainland China.

@sarahwieland

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@@user-dt6zl8ff7f Interesting, isn't I thought persecution was an issue in mainland China.

@user-dt6zl8ff7f

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@@sarahwieland Mainland China does lack a certain degree of religion freedom when compared to the west. But much more liberal than the Soviet used to be. All religions, as long as the Communist party allows, are tolerated and regulated autonomously, the administration doesn't really persecute as long as the religions and verious sects behave themselves under the communist rule. You may have noticed that recently several bishops in mainland China who used not to be consecrated by the Vatican have already been recognized by the Vatican and the Pope years before .

@ai6894

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Is there a Chinese version of the Latin shorthand I.N.R.I. ? _Iesous Nazarenus Rexus Iudea_

This video was wonderful! And it's wonderful to see such a linguistic study, nicely done!

The biggest take I get from this is, J isn't real and A at the end of a word is sneaky 😂

Wonderful video. I heard about you from Dan McClennan.

It's always much fun to come into these videos thinking I've got a pretty good grasp on the topic, only to realize how little I know and that there's still so much to learn and understand. Thank you for all your exhaustive work on these videos, they're a joy to watch!

I appreciate you putting the bibliography in your video description. Thanks.

thanksk! this was really interesting! a quick question for you: do you know what is the name of the babylonian tradition to only mention their deities' names during certain ceremonies or seasons of the year? i learned that the hebrews adopted that tradition during the exhile and continued it even after they returned from babylon, and that might have played a part in why they removed the Most High's Name, and replaced it with the tetragrammaton. Can you tell me the name of that babylonian tradition?

In Turkish, we sound it as "İsa", so similar to 'yesu'. Thank you for the knowledge !

What an amazing amount of research and preparation went into this 16 minute video! Very impressive.

Despite being an Arabic expert rather than a Hebrew or Aramaic expert, I still knew exactly where you were heading... those guttural sounds never fail to perplex and enthrall learners of Semitic languages haha

@ThatBernie

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إنها فعلا من أصعب الأصوات الموجودة في اللغات السامية حيث أنها نادرة في أغلبية اللغات الأخرى (ما عدا عدة لغات أفرو-آسيوية العائلة الكبيرة التي تتضمن العائلة السامية، فضلا عن وجود هذه الأصوات في بعض لغات منطقة القوقاز وعدة لغات السكان الأصليين في شمال غرب أمريكا الشمالية) تعديل: نسيت ذكر أنها أيضا تلاشت حتى في بعض اللغات السامية الحديثة كالعبرية المعاصرة والمالطية وبعض اللهجات الآرامية المعاصرة المنثورة في شمال العراق وجنوب شرق تركيا. والأدهى أن بعض الناطقين بهذه اللغات ليس لديهم دراية أن هذه الأصوات كانت موجودة في لغاتهم في الماضي وباتوا يتخيلون أن حرفَي الألف والعين مثلا كان لهما نفس النطق حتى في قديم الزمان وهذا أبعد ما يمكن أن يكون عن الحقيقة!

@protoeuro

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@@ThatBernie هل درست اللسانيات؟ لأنه نادرا ما تعرف الناس هذه الكمية من المعلومات عن العائلات اللغوية (اما انا درستها في الجامعة)

@ThatBernie

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@@protoeuro نعم حاصل على شهادة ماجستير في اللغويات

You mentioned that Jim is a shortened version of James. I've always thought it was more like the way the British pronounce the river "Thames" as the "Tems". So "James" becomes "Jim."

Thank this episode George Sabay Tacloban Philippines

This was so cool to watch! In Armenian Jesus Christ is Հիսուս Քրիստոս (“Hisus Kristos”) pronounced as HEE-SUS. I remember going to my first RE (Religious Eduction) class in England when I was 11 and being surprised at the teacher for saying “Jesus”.

This is one of the few channels I actually wait in anticipation for the next post. Thank you for making religion simple and understandable, for removing the dogma and explaining it from a historical and sober perspective. What I like about this channel is that Andrew is for the layman; this is not only for academics, it is for everyone. Keep up the good work. And please if you can... I always hold my fingers hoping that one day you'll make a video about Rastafari Movement. I want to hear your take. Again, thank you doc.

Very interesting video. A correction about the Greek pronunciation though. The first letter in Ιησούς (Iesous) is an I (Yiota) and it's pronounced as "ee" not "ye" So the Greek pronunciation starts with a diphthong (ee-ee) ..that makes it "i-isous"

Even more interesting is the fact this name is actually based on a Semitic root that was w-ṯ-ʿ originally (i.e. ayin is the only original phoneme still existing in the Hebrew rendition, and even that is dropped in pronunciation today). So the name may originally have been pronounced as something like yaθuʕ, based on the existence of the same name in the Amorite onomasticon. Of course that's long before the time of the famous Galilean, but feasible for the time of the son of Nun.

Interesting, I just gave a lesson on this topic yesterday and agree with everything that you have said. Nice! Thank you.

This was a really good episode. I always wondered how to properly pronounce the name of Jesus in the original language. Can you do an episode on the pronunciation of YHWH?

@t.j.9226

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With some historical context at the beginning of why it was often *not* pronounced in Jewish traditions! ;)

@lakrids-pibe

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I follow Larry Gonick's example and pronounce YHWH as "Yahoo Wahoo".

@Salsmachev

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It would be difficult to do without being potentially very disrespectful.

@Gumper30

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@@Salsmachev it's definitely a sensitive topic but religious studies allows for discussion of taboo information as long as the scholar isn't making a judgement on the value of the theological content.

@MattBellzminion

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@@Gumper30 Not just YHWH's pronunciation, but that deity's origins. I've read that YHWH was a pagan tribal god worshipped by the Israelites' Canaanite neighbors, and became incorporated into the Jews' concept of God over several centuries, shedding his deity family (wife and kids) and his original godly powers (as the god of war and storms). You want controversy? Try explaining to Mosaic monotheists that they've been worshipping a partly pagan god all along.

7:00 That's interesting, in German we often do say "Jesu" as in 'in the name of Jesus' becomes 'in Jesu Namen' instead of 'Im Namen von Jesus'

in Arabic, his name is YASUA' ياسوع where A' is the Arabic letter " Ain " and pronounced as you say it with a sound coming from the back of the throat. also the letter "S" س is the same as "Sh" ش except the later have three dots. The dots in Arabic language came later after the prophet Mohamad times. also his name is " Isa " عيسى , where the "a" can be "o" as it is a vowels and in Arabic it can be interchanged from region to region.

We were always taught that his name in that time would've been Joshua/Yeshua. It's fascinating that you go way way more into why that may have been. And equally as fascinating that Jesus' name would survive and be revived to be passed down in my Catholic school education.

@Ugly_German_Truths

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it is possible that that idea simply stemmed from a time with way less linguistical research into the languages of the time than we have today. The papers he showed demonstrate that linguists still work on unravelling the lost knowledge about how such things were pronounced, mostly based on transkription (that is how different things were spelled when different language writers had to represent them) and it is possible that the ones bringing the "old knowledge" around just didn't know better. Just like a lot of textual knowledge did not exist before the discovery of the dead sea scrolls that revealed a lot previously unknown texts and text variants. ;)

@kyrab7914

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@No sht Sherlock I know this is a joke, but we were always taught he was a Jew at that time. He couldn't very well be Catholic or Christian

@kyrab7914

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@@Ugly_German_Truths oh yeah, most assuredly my teachers probably learned about this from some of the same papers he did. And as assured, there's been research since. And I mean... It was k-8, this is a bit of a higher level explanation lol. Just marveling and grateful for the knowledge

@termination9353

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- Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus

@pdub69triniboy

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@@termination9353 You a real clown

I am an Aramaic speaker (mainly Chaldean Neo Aramaic) and we call Jesus ܝܫܘܥ (pronounced: Esh’o with that Ain sound at the end). And yes that’s how I would say Jesus actual name was pronounced or maybe close to that.

@annasaddiction5129

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but how are you pronouncing the "Ain" sounds like Ian in english or without the a?

@FarawayStars

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@@annasaddiction5129 copy this Arabic letter and hear the pronunciation “ ع "

@S.R.M.

11 ай бұрын

Romans 10:13 “For ‘whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Eminent historian Ernest Renan studied the life of Christ, and he acknowledged that the Savior was never in His life time known by or called by the name of “Jesus” (THE LIFE OF JESUS, p. 90). The name Jesus has only existed since the 17th century. In the 1611 English Version of the Bible (KJV), the name of Christ is Iesus (pronounced “ee-sus”), and only later was it changed to Jesus (pronounced “gee-sus”). The revealed name is very important to our salvation in Christ. The idea of taking God’s name in vain, which means to bring His Name to uselessness, or changing His name, or taking a vow by His name and not fulfilling that vow, so this is what is meant by “taking His name in vain” (Exodus 20:2). We must acknowledge that the name of salvation cannot be changed, “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). You cannot change the revealed name of our Savior, and there is no excuse acceptable to God for doing so, even if one speaks in another tongue, or rather because of the languages, of mankind. You must take this very seriously, for the warning of God is clear: “‘If you will not hear, and if you will not take it to heart, to give glory to My name {YAH},’ Says the Lord of hosts, I will send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take it to heart” (Malachi 2:2). Although there are descriptive names, there is only one Personal name of God by which to give glory to the LORD, as we say, “Halleluyah,” which is, “Praise YAH!” Knowing God’s revealed name is very important for this is the only name of salvation. The Bible tells us the name of salvation, “Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; ‘For Yah, the Lord, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation’” (Isaiah 12:2 NKJV). Therefore, we must “Praise YAH,” as many may be unknowingly doing when they say, “Halleluyah!” “Praise YAH!” These other names produced by man via linguistic evolution are lacking a, “Thus says the LORD!” These man-made names, which are a product of languages, and not the revelation of God, such as Jesus, Iesus, and Iesous, and not to mention “Hey-zeus, are not valid. ~So where did we get the true name of God, the very name “YAH”? Moses asked God for His name, and God replied, “HAYAH Ashar HAYAH,” which means: “I AM Who I AM,” therefore, Moses was told the essential name of God is YAH, I AM (HAYAH, the I AM), for God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM {YAH} has sent me to you.’” (Exodus 3:14). People say, “Oh, the Lord has many names.” No, the Lord has only One Personal essential name, which always has “YAH.” “And God spoke to Moses and said to him: ‘I, the Lord. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as EL SHADDAI [God Almighty], but by My name YAHAWAH, I was not known to them’” (Exodus 6:2-3). Therefore, the name YAH is the essential and the consistently true name of God. For this name YAH is the name which is above every name! The apostle Paul originally wrote this about the Savior’s name, “Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of YAHSHUA every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that YAHSHUA the Messiah is LORD, to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2:9-11). Here are the facts: The Savior told them that He was the I AM, as in “YAH” (John 8:58), and more facts: 1. Moses was given the name which is above every name [YAH]. (see Exodus 3:14) 2. The apostle Paul testifies that Christ has the name which is above every name [YAH]. (see Philippians 2:9) 3. The Lord YAH made it clear to Moses that although He, God, was known by many descriptive names, for example, El Shaddai, Emmanuel, Lord, Savior, Messiah, He only has One Personal Essential Name: YAH. 4. The apostle Peter states: “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). 5. The apostle Paul heard the Savior give His name in Hebrew on the road to Damascus (Acts 26:15). We know that the Savior did not say, “Jesus,” because: • The name Jesus has only existed since the 17th century c.e. (1611 English Bible: “Iesus.”) Contrarily to what many say, the name Jesus does not mean salvation. • The name Jesus is not a Hebrew name. • The name Jesus came from many linguistic changes: Iesus (ee-sus), Iesous (ee-ay-sous), a transliteration of Yeshua, which is a common Aramaic name at the time of Christ. • The Lord has revealed His name only in Hebrew (Exodus 3:14; Isaiah 12:2; Act 26:14-15). Behold the One revealed Name by which we must be saved: YAHSHUA! And every tongue, language of mankind, is to know this one name YAHSHUA (Philippians 2:11). And this is the essence of the Gospel: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:16-18). Logically, if there are many names for Christ, then to accept one among the many would be tantamount to rejecting the rest. Therefore, there can only be one revealed name given according to one language, as it is, and should be in Hebrew. Otherwise, how can we be sure that we are not rejecting the Lord’s revealed name from Heaven?

Any chance you would do a video on the name Jacob and how it morphed into so many variations including James, Jim, Giacomo, Jacobo, Tiago, Yago, etc.?

@brianfileman

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The origin of the name may well be Egyptian, but given a Hebrew spin. That’s if there’s any truth whatsoever in the biblical narrative. The Hebrew יַעֲקֹב would be pronounced Ya-‘aqov, with ‘A representing the gutteral ‘ayin letter discussed in the video. I’ve used a Q because that is what the letter ק is, much like in the names Iraq and Qatar. It tends to be transliterated as a C or K in English, neither of which are correct. The final letter ב is actually the second letter in the alphabet (in Hebrew and English) so is technical a B, but at the end of a syllable in Hebrew, is has a soft pronunciation, closer to BH. So V is probably the correct pronunciation in the original. One of the many problems of transliteration. Inevitably, the Greek and later Latin spellings changed the name a fair bit. Where D was easier to say than J, and. G easier than Q, one gets Diago (with the last letter being dropped. At some point in the Latinisation, Iacobus morphed into Iacomus, the Jacomus, before the French contracted it to Gemmes, and thence into James in English. Which is why the culottes of King James were called Jacobites. From James, the Irish exchanged the J for SH, hence Seamus. Jim is simply a short form of James. And each language produced variants based on the limitations or specifics of their own alphabetic systems. Added to which, some versions don’t start with the original Hebrew, but with any number of the other variations. A bit like Chinese Whispers. Hope that helps a bit.

This isn't a comment on the video but I could listen to you for hours.

I have kind of a silly question about the creation of the letter “J.” Was it just understood that written context would determine a word’s pronunciation? I don’t imagine anyone would see “Iames” and think it was anything other than “James,” but I could imagine it causing more confusion with common words. Especially if there wasn’t a lowercase “j” yet either. This is practically the opposite circumstance, but I’m reminded how in the Puerto Rican dialect of Spanish, words ending in the letter “S” lose that letter’s sound. So “gracias” just sounds like “gracia.” It’s just understood and implied. It’s something I’m still having to actively remember when speaking to my partner’s family. I know this wasn’t the focus of the video - my apologies. I’m an anthropologist specializing in Ancient Celtic culture, but my thesis had a linguistic focus. I really wish I’d kept with it because this video had me completely enraptured, and generally I have a fascination with etymology - specifically the etymology of given names.

@mollof7893

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The letter "i" and "j" originaly made a near identical sound so there wasn't really a neef to diffrienciate it. Sound change made them more diffrent to each other so having diffrent letters was more important.

@WillGaylord

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The letter 'j' was developed in the 16th century to represent the sound better. Prior to it's popularization, 'i' was the closest natural phonological equivalent sound for Latin speaking people of the 'y' sound in Hebrew; so, for a name like 'iames', they wouldn't have pronounced with with the 'j' sound.

@varana

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Yes, the pronunciation would just depend on the position (and the specific word in question, which you might just have to know). In Latin, where the alphabet comes from, we have the same thing: the letter i would be pronounced differently depending on position and environment. It basically works like the letter Y in Spanish: yo and y are pronounced in two versions, similar to Latin i. I'm not sure which variants of Spanish do or don't do this, but I've heard people pronouncing "yo" or "Yolanda" etc. with a sound that was similar (though a bit weaker) to the English J.

@qwitchyy

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Thank you all so much! You’ve given me new avenues leading to unexplored (for me at least) rabbit holes.

@pansepot1490

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The spelling of English throughout the centuries has been wild. If I remember correctly there was no standard spelling of English words in the seventeenth century, in fact Shakespeare’s manuscripts show that often he spelled the same word in different ways. Furthermore words that haven’t changed their spelling now have a different pronunciation. We know that because Shakespeare used rhymes so when a rhyme it’s expected and it doesn’t really work it’s because the word had a different pronunciation. Hope it’s clear. In conclusion I am not even sure how James was pronounced in earlier centuries but I am willing to bet it was not like today’s and the letter j was adopted to reflect the difference between i and j that usage had produced. Btw I am not a linguist, just listened to videos about the topic because of personal interest. The field is huge but to give you an idea (in case you don’t already know) you can look up “the great vowel shift”. It’s about the dramatic transformation English language went through between the 1400s and 1700s.

Researcher: "Am I pronouncing it right: 'ye+shoo+ah?'" Expert: "Yea, sure, close enough."

@bobkerolls13

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They could redo that scene in Super Troopers. "Are you saying 'Yes, sir', or 'Yeah, sure'...or one of the proposed original vocalizations of the true name of the historical Jesus?"

You make religion so digestible. Thank you

Great info. Thank you

I enjoy these language related videos. It's a good reminder of how varied language is.

I have thought Yeshua ben Joseph. (Yeshua, son of Joseph). Not my religion, I am Buddhist, but I am a bit of a Comparative Religions scholar. Why I LOVE your channel! When I was a kid, in church (former christian), the preacher made a really funny little joke. He asked the congregation: "What is god's first name?" When no one could answer, he said, "Andy." We were all like, "Andy?!?!" The preacher said, "Yes! In the bible it says, 'Andy (And he) gave his only begotten son." I think that was a pretty funny little quip from the Pastor!

@luciannawolfstone2598

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Yeshua BAR Yosef

@NickvonZ

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@@luciannawolfstone2598 Well, Hebrew isn't my first language, but a simple Google will bring up BEN. I bothered to double check, since you replied. Ben is Hebrew for "son", BAR is Aramaic. 6 in one, half a doz in the other.

@J_Rees

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@@NickvonZ Aramaic was most likely the first language of Jesus and Joseph.

@NickvonZ

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@@J_Rees I know.

Fantastic video!

Interestingly, the way Latin renders the Name, Iesus (Yeh-soos) or Iezus (Yeh-zoos), is in the 4th Declension instead of the 2nd Declension; the result is that the cases use more long or reiterated U (pronounced 'oo') sounds, which could be how the Romans interpreted the gutteral sound of Hebrew (considering that St Jerome knew Hebrew and Aramaic himself, I wouldn't be surprised); this is in contrast to the 2nd Declension, in which the cases take forms with i and o. Example: Jezus in the Genitive looks like Jezūs, indicating a more drawn out sound. If it were 2nd Dec, it would be Jezī. So clearly there was some aspect of the Name that Romans felt necessitated the 4th Declension.

I like how his guy tries to shed light on all the possibilities he knows or has researched. Keep up the good work.

@termination9353

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Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus

In Swedish it’s common for older text to write “Jesu” without the s! For instance you could say “Jesu Kristi” and it would be interpreted by a majority as an older, more formal way of saying “Jesus Kristus” which is Jesus Christ in modern Swedish. Funny who this could be close to the actual name, since Scandinavia was Christened very late. Full circle by chance!

@chegu613

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jesu christi is also an older/more formal version in German

@stephanpopp6210

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@@chegu613 In genitive, i.e. Jesus Christ's so-and-so. It's a Latin genitive and totally weird from a German perspective, where genitives are in -s and written language only.

@carlosbardales4179

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Interesting... Jesus Christ in Spanish is Jesucristo !

@davidbouvier8895

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As the narrator points out, the final 's' of the Greek 'iesous' is added to grammatically indicate the nominative. But addressing him directly (in Latin certainly, I've long forgotten all my Greek) would require the vocative. So does the older English usage 'Jesu' come from Jerome's Latin Vulgate?

Nehemia and Ezra offer different spellings on several words. These spellings only exist in their work. Nehemia and Ezra are post-Babylon, the difference is relational to their separation and return, possibly from memory as opposed to a physical copy. Ihsous the Greek form This is not the only way the name is spelled. There are muliple spellings. The Seleucid Empire required their subjects to write their language using Greek. Using the phonemes of Greek to represent Hebrew pronunciation preserved Hebrew texts by writing them with Greek. Iota, in Greek is pronounced EE Sigma can represent Shin or Samech OU, Omicron Upsilon, a conjunction pronounced OWE like low, tow, or show. This structure represents the Ayin. This tells us the Hebrew spelling and its 4bce-4ce pronunciation. EE-Show - Salvation I chose the simple form of all variant spellings because Heta is a silent letter in Greek. It is possible in a letter exchange system the Heta replaces the Hey. Because I did this work based on the phonetic system, I ignored the Heta in the Hebrew spelling.

Christians in Egypt call him "Yasou” (ending with a “Ain” letter which is in the arabic language with the same exact sound In Quran however he is called “Eisa” which starts with the letter “ain” which is a bit similar to how the Syriacs used to pronounce it

I love this channel...i always learn something new. I consider myself to be pretty well versed in these topics so I'm very impressed when someone can tell me something that I don't already know... (not to be arrogant)....but the reason I love this channel so much is that not only do I learn new things... I learn that what I once thought was correct may not be and why it WAS thought to be correct and may no longer be accepted fully factually correct....

@termination9353

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Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus

Interestingly, Jesus is called Yaeshu or Yashu in Indian languages. Christianity arrived in India pretty early and It's possible the pronounciation remained largely unchanged since it remained a small largely localised religion. I'd like to know the Ethiopian pronounciation since it's another non westerm early Christian country

@chendaforest

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Yes and some Christians use Allah for God interestingly...

@varana

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@@chendaforest Because Allah is just the Arabic word for "god". It's not an individual name per se, it's just been closely associated with Islam because the Quran uses it.

@chendaforest

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@@varana I see. So what do Christians call God by hallowed name ? Is it Jesus or something else ?

@pansepot1490

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@@chendaforest according to the English translation of the Bible the name of god is Yahweh.

@varana

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@@chendaforest It's a bit complicated, but generally speaking, Christians just say "god" in their native language. In English, "God", in French, "Dieu", in Russian, "Bog", in Arabic, "Allah", and so on. Or they use other honorifics - "the Lord" is very commonly used. (Again, whatever "lord" is in each language.) In both Judaism and Christianity, God theoretically has a name, but it is rarely used - in Judaism, it's only used in the written form (YHWH, with no vowels because Hebrew), and never spoken. In Christianity, these four letters are sometimes pronounced in different ways (Yahweh, Jehovah, or similar), but essentially, we're not exactly sure what the vowels were. But again, that is not often used. Jesus is considered one of the parts of God in Christianity (as said - it's complicated).

Jesus' name in Hebrew was "Yeshua" which translates to English as Joshua. The name Jesus comes from the Greek name lēsous, which is a translation of Joshua, the Hebrew name Yehoshua, and later Yeshua.

I’ve read a lot of claims, some attributed to Hebrew scholars, which seem to think it was ‘Yahushua’ where “Yahu” is pronounced quickly as though the two syllables were rolled into one, making it sound like “Yow” followed by an emphasized “Shoo” and finishing with a less emphasized “uh”…yowSHOOuh also is an abbreviated reference to a longer phrase which translates into “The Creator saves”

@luizsouza2806

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what about the name Yahusha??

Thank you! Some Jewish communities pronounced ע as a ng-sound, as in the word "siNGer". in IPA: ⁠ŋ . That's the sound that I still use today to pronounce ע which helps to distinguish it from א . Thus a possible pronunciation of ישוע would also be «yešung» or «yešuªng» .

Great information!

I already knew the Josh/Yeshua bit & how the s snuck in there, but I hadn't heard about the difficulty with the ayin! Gotta say I get a bit of a kick out of how close to "yeah sure" Yeshua' sounds XD XD

One of the most interesting videos. The ending seemed cut off. Super interesting to hear all the ways Jesus has been pronounced and that Yeshu is closer to the real pronunciation than Jesus. 👍🏼

@termination9353

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Jesus real name was Zusa Justus [his father being Joseph Barsabas Justus of Arimathea]. - 'Zusa' being the Greek or Hellenized equivalent of Emmanuel/God With Us/'God[Zeus] of gods with us' as the angel told Joseph to name the child (Zusa - Zusas - Jesus). Jesus' surname, Justus (Justice, Righteous, Tzadik) is the Davidic royal bloodline surname given to King David's dynasty. "Where two or three are gathered together in My Name [IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE] there I am in the midst of them." -Jesus

@pdub69triniboy

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@@termination9353 heritic

@termination9353

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@@pdub69triniboy Paulian antichrist.

This is fascinating because in Tamil, Jesus is still called Yesu, which is exactly the pronunciation of 8:25.

@ryanscotts9633

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​@El Malakh Feo also the religion of yesu got converted to isai instead of Christianity

@chronikhiles

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Zarathustra is pretty common in English too, I think. I'd still like to know what exactly was the first form of Christianity that entered India, whether it was Greek or Syriac.

@michaelrenper796

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Christianity was brought to this region of the world by the Eastern Church. who spoke Syriac a later form of Aramaic.

@FlyingAlfredoSaucer

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@@chronikhiles I think Syriac, Christianity reached India pretty early, before Greek or Latin Christian groups spread east

@ThatBernie

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Well not exactly because Tamil doesn't have pharyngeal consonants equivalent to 'ayin

My father was born in Europe of German parents in 1905. His given name was Fritz. The family immigrated to the United States a couple of years later. In the early 1920s, my father became a naturalized citizen of the United States. His naturalization papers listed his name as Fred and, for the rest of his life, he introduced himself as Fred and signed his name, Fred. Dad’s older brother, Joseph, called him Fritz even decades later, presumably because that is what he had called him when they were boys growing up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. In the 1950s, Dad explained to me that “Fred” was a transliteration of the “German name” of Fritz and that I shouldn’t say that Fred was not his real name. I don’t mind if people use whatever name they prefer to use to refer to the best-known resident of the Galilean town of Nazareth. Maybe I shouldn’t admit to being disgusted by people who say or imply that Jesus isn’t his real name or who use their favorite (supposedly Hebrew) pronunciation of his name as a sort of code to identify their particular in-group. My annoyance, however, sometimes goes beyond merely thinking of such people as using a modern-day equivalent of saying long prayers or taking great pride in the prominent display of phylacteries.

In Croatian it's Isus (pronouned E-soos) But also in some dialects in Croatia it is Jezuš (Je like Hey without the H and y and e switched, z as in Zoo but just the z, uš as in oosh)

This is what I want. I'm a Christian and I absolutely loved this. You didn't mock my beliefs you didn't say anything to make anyone believer or not upset. Just a great informative story. Very very interesting

@druidriley3163

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Interestingly, critics of Christianity use this fact that Jesus was created as a fictional character to be a mirror character of the Hebrew bible hero Joshua by giving him the same name.

@trianjezraellumontad7661

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@@druidriley3163 excuse me ,I'm a Critic towards Christianity, do you want me to Explained why we think Jesus is a Fictional character?

@druidriley3163

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@@trianjezraellumontad7661 -- *Explained why we think Jesus is a Fictional character* Because he has all the hallmarks of one? No history, his birth is either omitted or not consistent in the telling, his family lineage is also inconsistent, he starts off as an infant in only two stories, born like all Greek demigods, then immediately jumps forward 30+ years? Meaning, there's no need to discuss his life, just him as messenger? And there is no contemporary evidence for him? Nothing is written about him until decades and centuries after his supposed existence? Sounds pretty fictional to me.

@nbk2134

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​@@trianjezraellumontad7661did your great grand father exist?

As an anecdote, modern arabic still uses the 3yn (guttural end sound I'll write as '3') in both of the two versions it has of Jesus's name. While the Muslim version is 3eesa (عيسى) (taken from other local languages I suppose) the form used in arabic by christains is the much more interesting yasoo3, which reminds me of the proposed yeshoo3 original pronunciation

Technically calling him Jojo wouldn’t be wrong. He’s Jesus, later turned into Joshua, son of Joseph. He’s Jojo.

I love this entire video thanks so much for it