What’s inside the Fluance RT80?

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  • @jonsymmonds1120
    @jonsymmonds11202 жыл бұрын

    I thank you for the review. I am so thankful I held on to my old 1970's-1980's era series of direct drive turntables made by Technics. They are tanks and were used for NONSTOP operation in most radio stations from the late 1970's up until about the middle 1990's. I rescued all of mine mainly in the mid 1990's. I had to do little to get them going going again. They have been running ever since. Two of the turntables I own, were on the air 24/7 in a radio station running live jocks for about 10 years. I know, I was one of those jocks. We used Stanton Cartridges, 500 series with a conical tip so we could "Back Cue" the records. The old turntables used in the 1970-1980's could bring back a record maybe an a quarter turn and make music history!

  • @crisjr6478
    @crisjr64782 жыл бұрын

    For the inside of a turntable I consider less is more. Simple clean layout no extras just everything needed for good quality music.

  • @xaenon
    @xaenon2 жыл бұрын

    Regarding your platter spindle: I know this seems to go against common sense, but when you turn the spindle by hand, without the platter installed, it should NOT 'free spin'. You should be able to turn it easily, and there should be some very slight resistance, with a 'viscous' sort of feel. Like I said, it seems to go against common sense, but it should behave exactly as it did in the video. That 'viscous feel' I mentioned is exactly that - the lubrication and the bearing inside, combined with the very low mass of the spindle itself. The important thing is that with the platter installed (belt NOT installed), you should be able to spin it easily and it should take some time to coast to a stop. And there should be no side-to-side wobble or noise. At the tone arm pivot, you identified the signal wires from the cartridge. The other PCB is for the sensors that switch the platter motor on and off depending on the position of the tone arm. The motor control circuit looks basically the same as the circuit used in portables and entry-level models like the LP60, just built outside the motor housing. I'm betting that with a few minor tweaks, this turntable could be modded for 78 rpm. The Sankyo motor is doubtlessly of somewhat higher quality than what you'd find in a Crosley or similar. I LOVE these teardown videos. Keep up the good work!

  • @Recordology

    @Recordology

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome thank you so much!!!!!😎😎😎😎😎

  • @stefanegger

    @stefanegger

    2 жыл бұрын

    10:45 - the motor says SANKO, not SANK-Y-O. SANK-Y-O is a known brand, SANKO is nothing I ever head of.

  • @Rekmeyata

    @Rekmeyata

    6 ай бұрын

    I bet it is a Chinese knockoff of the SANK-Y-O which is why you never heard of it, which is why I'm won't buy this turntable!

  • @DetroitStars
    @DetroitStars2 жыл бұрын

    Get yourself an old ice cube tray to hold and organize screws and parts when taking apart electronic items.

  • @Recordology

    @Recordology

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s a good idea 👍

  • @thinlizzysupporter
    @thinlizzysupporter2 жыл бұрын

    I installed one of those AT91 cartridges into a vintage direct drive JVC turntable that I purchased from a marketplace seller. I was really pleased with the result, I do like a neutral sounding cartridge and tend to favour the Audio Technica models these days after having tried various Goldring, Ortofon, Grado, Shure etc cartridges over the years. I think the additional pcb in the tonearm assembly will be for the auto stop function. Enjoyable video.

  • @snowcraft40
    @snowcraft402 жыл бұрын

    It looks ok I guess. One thing I did notice is the motor PCB, It looks pretty similar to what's in my Pioneer PL-460 Turn table. With the speed adjustment pots and rest of the electronics on the out side so easily adjustable. If my 35 year old Pioneer ever breaks down I may consider one. But this thing I have is solid. Probably out live me. Oh the ground wire on the centre shaft? your right it's to prevent static and noise. Great video.

  • @activexp
    @activexp2 жыл бұрын

    I have an RT80 with an AT VM540ML. Sounds superb.

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio2 жыл бұрын

    Well, the marble background has it's own style, so this is fine by me 👍 Shure doesn't make cartridges anymore, so you'd need to get Jico aftermarket styli. I would shy away from products that are fully discontinued. 5:25 Almost looks like the screw on the right is missing! 5:55 I would recommend to take off the counterweight as well, to reduce forces on the tonearm bearings. 9:38 The spindle is grounded and makes contact with the platter, so that's grounded as well. The grounded platter is basically shielding to prevent electrical noise (RFI) coming from the motor and getting into the cartridge. Plenty manufacturers don't do that, that's why you come across people with complaints about hum from time to time. These details are what brands like Fluance sets their turntables apart from the rest. 15:50 Looks like a tonearm position sensor... but why? That Fluance is fully manual, isn't it?

  • @JoeOrber

    @JoeOrber

    2 жыл бұрын

    The tonearm position sensor should be for the auto-stop feature, there's a switch in the back to enable or disable that feature

  • @Ascania
    @Ascania2 жыл бұрын

    The SEN2 board contains a position sensor for the arm.

  • @pinballKing012
    @pinballKing0122 жыл бұрын

    Be nice to see inside an ATLP120X. I have one but not game to open it up...

  • @stefanegger
    @stefanegger2 жыл бұрын

    9:05 - yes it says DGND for "digital ground". Digital and analog is seperated, because of the different nature of how those signals work. Mostly DGND and AGND (analog) is put together in one point only to form the common Ground (GND). That is better than to mix it up, as it may influence each other (IC is high speed switching etc. while analog is analog wave forms)

  • @jeremy_h
    @jeremy_h2 жыл бұрын

    I'm betting the RT80 and RT81 are exactly the same inside, and that 'T' of glue holds the extra MDF that makes up the weight difference between the 80 and 81. That would be the perfect place to stick it.

  • @ralphhoskins2115
    @ralphhoskins21152 жыл бұрын

    Not much going on inside this one buddy.... those manual turntables...just bare bones..... the ground on the spindle is for static on your records ... keeps it from making loud pops... through your amplifier... great vid as usual...

  • @leonardblush2557
    @leonardblush25572 жыл бұрын

    RT80 vs LP3? I wonder how long Fluance can keep prices as they are, as everyone else seems to have raised theirs.

  • @hectorquinones1999
    @hectorquinones19992 жыл бұрын

    Nice looking turntable

  • @yuriykorotkevych8838
    @yuriykorotkevych88382 жыл бұрын

    It was interesting to look inside the unit. Btw, check soldering on the first board shown in the video, the switch one. One of the joints looks like it may have a crack. As to the motor, Sanko and Sankyo are different manufacturers, and it seems that Sankyo doesn't produce motors for audio equipment any more, unfortunately.

  • @johnlouis3873

    @johnlouis3873

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's right. Sankyo came out as a cheap replica of Sanyo. The company Sanko as you say are different manufacturers.

  • @richardhalliday6469

    @richardhalliday6469

    2 жыл бұрын

    That dry joint needs touching up

  • @shonstewart4957
    @shonstewart49572 жыл бұрын

    Anybody awesome video is always did you manage to get it back together I was thinking to myself why would you take something apart that was totally working I've been that before but ended up wrecking the item because I am not good at putting things together very interesting to see the inside I always love stuff like that I have no idea what I'm looking at other then electronics sorry I couldn't be of more help I'm not electronically inclined I like to use them but that's about it. Take care of yourself

  • @Recordology

    @Recordology

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was able to get it back together in perfect working order! That was a major win for me lol!

  • @ayedee6681
    @ayedee66812 жыл бұрын

    Just goes to show, you can build a cheap turntable with good components.

  • @stefanegger
    @stefanegger2 жыл бұрын

    8:50 - broken solder joint, but probably for mounting and not for a signal, still not a very good sign on a new product.

  • @TBNTX
    @TBNTX2 жыл бұрын

    If I had one gripe about any of the Fluance turntables, it's the lifter lever. It's just so wimpy. I'd prefer a sturdier lifting lever. I own the RT85, but it's the same story. Wimpy lifting lever.

  • @Wolfpack-N

    @Wolfpack-N

    2 жыл бұрын

    It does feel wimpy but not like it would break under nonral use since it doesn't have to do any heavy lifting.

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR Жыл бұрын

    Is that similar to the Project Carbon Turntable but maybe in a few years I will go after a REVOX B975.

  • @SQDLVR
    @SQDLVR2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Mr. Record-ology. Got a question for you. My Music Hall MM 2.1 has finally conked out after 22 years (2003 bought new) and was wondering if the Fluance RT 81 is any good? Also does it have any speed inconsistencies like a bunch of the reviewers in Amazon are saying? That kind has me double thinking before I pull the trigger. Trying not to break the bank especially during these times and need a good turntable under or at least in the $500 range. Totally value your opinion

  • @nickbitten9910
    @nickbitten99102 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video. Think I would be scared to take my stuff apart ( bit like the flat-pack scenario ). Know what you mean about storage space for audio and music - a juggling act ( and negotiations with my wife). Keep smiling y'all

  • @Recordology

    @Recordology

    2 жыл бұрын

    😀😀😀

  • @AndrewWatson64
    @AndrewWatson642 жыл бұрын

    Aren't those other wires at the tonearm to control the auto stop function?

  • @sorachi295
    @sorachi2952 жыл бұрын

    What speakers go well with this turntable? Is the Klipstch RP-600M good with this and if so, do I need an amplifier for them?

  • @troyarmatti7167
    @troyarmatti71672 жыл бұрын

    maybe the ground is for the built in pre amp.

  • @bradygiltz5160
    @bradygiltz51602 жыл бұрын

    Do you think u-orbit and fluance turntables are worth their value? Or do you think their is a better value like old or new

  • @Recordology

    @Recordology

    2 жыл бұрын

    I personally like a new Turntable if I can afford one… I’m not as obsessed with vintage turntable that some people are… Both of those are good units

  • @plan7a
    @plan7a2 жыл бұрын

    It's more of a 'fact finding mission' perhaps? One for everyone. Just a thought. :D

  • @kevinpatrickmacnutt
    @kevinpatrickmacnutt2 жыл бұрын

    There is nothing there because as a fully manual turntable there is not much needed. Most of what fills up an automatic turntable or an old changer is mechanical bits, electronically they are very simple.

  • @l.t.w8985
    @l.t.w89852 жыл бұрын

    My favorite movie woohoo

  • @mauritsvw
    @mauritsvw2 жыл бұрын

    It uses a Sanko motor, not Sankyo.

  • @Recordology

    @Recordology

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 😊

  • @normalnate3447
    @normalnate34472 жыл бұрын

    Noice

  • @yamilestrada4203
    @yamilestrada42032 жыл бұрын

    HEY MAN INSIGNIA MADE THERE OWN TURNTABLE

  • @iam.miikey
    @iam.miikey Жыл бұрын

    Cheap…

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