They have more points than last season after 24 games. Leverkusen incredible season just highlights the problems Bayern had for years.

@gordon1545

2 ай бұрын

Yup, 54 points so far this season, 52 points at this stage last season. Even though they play 4 fewer games than other top leagues, those point totals over the past 3 seasons are pretty low to win titles. They haven't been going particularly well for years.

@wenined9422

2 ай бұрын

Leverkusen is unbelievably good but Bayern was close in the first half of the season. There isn't an excuse for losing to Bremen, Bochum or Freiburg. They completely fell of in the second half of the season

@SenorKraut

2 ай бұрын

It's not just that. The football is extremely underwhelming. Boring, spiritless football, random goals scored because of individual class while being extremely leaky in defence. Players are not developing and have been out of form for months. And to - no disrespect - potentially go out to Lazio in the CL is just ridiculous. I am not saying it is all Tuchels fault but big changes need to be made. He needs to go and at least half a dozen players too.

@jamesgolightly5320

2 ай бұрын

Last season they dropped off badly tho. Dortmund gifted them the title.

@casperguo7177

2 ай бұрын

The actual play is terrible. Disorganized at the back and I don’t even know what Tuchel is going for up front

Being a Spurs fan who wants Kane to finally win a league championship and a football fan who wants Leverkusen to finally end Bayern’s domination is honestly tearing me apart😭

@Weknowball4rl

2 ай бұрын

Kane will get a title just not this year

@liquid_brew2110

2 ай бұрын

rather have leverkusen take the dub

@Franglaiso

2 ай бұрын

@@Weknowball4rl until Kane arrived, winning a bundesliga with Bayern is like winning an arse kicking contest when everyone else has one leg

@yannick245

2 ай бұрын

Bayern is still in the UCL. As far as I remember. And I only believe that they didn't win the Bundesliga when the referee blows the whistle! Bayern has come back so many times. And they have the s.c. _"Bayern-Dusel"_ on their side. And Leverkusen has their nickname _"Vizekusen/Neverkusen"_ for a reason. Both phenomenons even have their on English Wikipedia article!

@jonathand.t.5051

Ай бұрын

The fact that Kane can potentially be one of the first footballers I can think of to get an Untitled vid from Secret Base is crazy given how many opportunities he got

Bayern aren't really much worse than previous seasons if you look at points and goal differential, it's just that leverkusen are having a historic season. Leverkusen's current point total is higher than basically all of Bayerns league winning tallies at this point in the season.

@Const1

2 ай бұрын

They are. They were winning games but not convincingly at all and it all boiled down to individual brilliance than proper team functioning.

@eoin8156

2 ай бұрын

This is a quality Bayer team but that doesn’t change the fact Bayern have been in decline for 3 years now. We barely beat a god awful Dortmund side to the title last year.

@joshuakimmich4486

2 ай бұрын

@@Const1 Hats off to you. Stats tell one story while watching games shows you another.

@riquelmeone

2 ай бұрын

Bayern's problems on the pitch are just a symptom of the issues they have outside. Management has been abysmal for years.

@maroda8094

2 ай бұрын

But Bayern isn't only competing in the bundesliga.. If you count all games, Cup matches, Champions League and Bundesliga, Tuchel is the worst coach since Klinsmann. Even Kovac had more Points per Games than Tuchel

I know it will sound strange but Bayern Munich's decline started in the 18/19 season under Kovac. Bayern were awful under Kovac and yet barely retained their Bundesliga title because Dortmund per usual collapse in the end. Bayern Munich won the sextuple the following season when Flick took over near the halfway point where Leipzig was leading the Bundesliga. Since then Bayern Munich had many infighting between the players, managers and board and puzzling transfer dealings that failed to replace key players from their 2020 dominance. Apart from Sane, Kane and Kim Min Jae. The rest were either poor or joined Bayern Munich at the wrong time. Last season Bayern Munich were lucky to retain their Bundesliga crown because Dortmund yet again failed miserably to win on the final day but now that Leverkusen stepped up their game after battling for survival when Alonso, Bayern Munich are falling apart and this was coming since Kovac was in charge. Years of complacency and failing to address their in house problems has finally caught up on them and the fallout is there for the world to see.

@gregorsamsa2271

2 ай бұрын

Finally the correct analysis. Everybody thought with the CL, and all the titles in 2020, that everything was perfect. In many ways, this season, as ironic it sounds, was more poison than a blessing. I say this as a Bayern Munich fan myself, it blinded us. And made us immiatedly forget our already existing structural issues.

@tayyabjr7187

2 ай бұрын

Someone cooked here

@muldrake

2 ай бұрын

Sane and Kim Min Jae? Sane is currently playing his third bad second half of a season in a row. Kim is currently nowhere near the world class level that everyone expected he is, considering that he was regarded as one of the best transfers in summer. Kane has played a world class first half of the season and is now slowly adapting to the rest of the team, as you could see in some of his latest performances. The teams core needs to be completely exchanged. Goretzka, Kimmich, Gnabry... they were overrated due to overperforming for a while, they have played bad for over 2 seasons now.

@toph8298

2 ай бұрын

Going from Guardiola, Ancelotti and Heynckes to Niko Kovac shocked me at the time. A real signal of decline.

@bentob1ox

2 ай бұрын

Bayern have the pieces set already, how they haven’t signed a proper no.6 is beyond me.

Poor Kane. He's so good and keeps performing and just can't catch a break. Also the fact this was the first back to back loss in 4 years is an absolutely mad stat.

@grievuspwn4g3

2 ай бұрын

I wonder sometimes if there is some aspect of his game in any given season that isn't changed enough over the new year, so he gets sidelined by the time the critical games arrive.

@sociolocomtsac

2 ай бұрын

True, but he doesn't help himself when he goes missing in big games. Not clutching important games.

@benlane7282

2 ай бұрын

@@sociolocomtsacyou can’t clutch when you are being given no service. If the rest of the team is not there for the big occasions then of course he isn’t going to get goals.

@astitvapandey9145

Ай бұрын

Well I am a fan of Bayer Leverkusen but I really think Harry Kane should win a trophy. I am rooting for Bayern in ucl.

@astitvapandey9145

Ай бұрын

​@@sociolocomtsacit's the mistake of Thomas tuchel. He should have started with de ligt instead of dier and Davies instead of boey against Leverkusen

"Kane" is the obvious joke. "Tuchel" is the more likely reason.

@khanyamosetlhi2530

2 ай бұрын

Hierarchy uncertainty is the real reason

@reun1clus

2 ай бұрын

Their defenders are terrible too… especially Upamecano

@Weweta

2 ай бұрын

@@reun1clusthe ligt ain’t bad

@MJeezyPineappleTheFruitDude

2 ай бұрын

It's also the squad, a team full of players with big egos who have won everything at the club and may need a new challenge

@rpmahardika6650

2 ай бұрын

You know Tuchel won UCL and CWC (even super cup) with worse attacker. Kane is miles better, but no trophy

Funny how losing the league for first time in more than a decade is widely considered a crisis for Bayern. This shows how big and competitive Bayern's legacy is Most teams would die for having these kind of crisis

@bojidartodorov8611

2 ай бұрын

Because the Bundesliga is a farmers league with no competition at all

@datdude3327

2 ай бұрын

last seasons Dortmund regen and this current Bayer Leverkusen transformation has made the Bundesliga interesting for the first time in years

@bojidartodorov8611

2 ай бұрын

​@@datdude3327You are right but I am speaking in general.

@phonzie1980

2 ай бұрын

@bojidartodorov8611 Liverpool are bottlers the fans don’t care if they win something or nothing stick to Europa League

@murmor6890

2 ай бұрын

Bundesliga is the league with the lowest density in the top among top 4 leagues.

It all started when they sacked Nagalsmenn last season for no reason.

@senseiwu763

2 ай бұрын

Nagalsmenn blew 9 point lead so I think when Tuchel was avaible it was nobrainer for the club

@peterfighter

2 ай бұрын

It all started when they made Hansi Flick to resign

@felixwinkler6450

2 ай бұрын

​@@senseiwu763 I don't think it was a "nobrainer". I share the sentiment that in general Tuchel is/was the slightly better coach in a vacuum. If both were available at the same time, without any context and none of them already working for the club, I'd see why Bayern would go for the more experienced Tuchel. But they likely sacked Nagelsmann for personality reasons and then got someone who is very easily triggered by questions from the press and seems to hold an image of arrogance around his players at times. They sacked Nagelsmann because they were afraid of not winning any titles, but then only won one extremely lucky Bundesliga trophy thanks to Dortmund bottling it and a last minute winner from Musiala. Nagelsmann had a 2.31 points per game average with a team that lagged a striker after Lewandowski's departure. Tuchel got 200 million worth of players including Kane and only has a 2.02 average - the second worst average in 30 years, barely better than Klinsmann's. Nagelsmann also was still able to win all major titles last season, including the Champions League after eight straight wins, including seven of them to nothing. Nagelsmann's sacking cost Bayern at least 40 million Euro, plus 12 million salary per year for Tuchel, plus a few millions for staff. Take those roughly 70 million to this day and add the 120 million for Kane and 50 million for Kim and 30 million for Boey and you end up with a quarter billion invested, yet the results are worse. I'm pretty sure that Nagelsmann would have done just as well as Tuchel without that quarter billion spent. In that regard, I'm not sure that it was a "nobrainer".

@HysenFatal

2 ай бұрын

​ Most top teams performed poorly after the World Cup, that for first time took place midseason.

@megaplexXxHD

2 ай бұрын

Bro who tf is nagalsmenn? 🤣🤣🤦🏽‍♂️

Here's a take: Nothing's actually gone wrong for bayern, compared to the top teams in Europe top leagues they are actually performing decently. The issue is that somehow we've gotten used to Bayern winning the Bundesliga every season. And we act like it's the end of the world if the team is in second. Bayern has dominated for the past decade, which honestly makes the league a bother to watch or we all know they win it at the end. Let's also give Bayer Leverkusen the credit they deserve, they have been absolutely amazing and rightfully deserve the league this season. Any other year bayern would probably still be top of the league even with their current performances. It just shows how exceptional bayer leverkusen have been.

@its3amagain.

2 ай бұрын

this

@inzainity9752

2 ай бұрын

Bayern loose to Lazio and saarbrucken and there is nothing wrong

@tuijop7171

2 ай бұрын

You a « Bayern fan » ?

@Ananas-280

2 ай бұрын

No, its not the league points or lead We are sick and tired of our preference under tuchel, we were literally knocked out by a 3rd tier team as well as humiliated by Leipzig...lost to lazio and barely won against Copenhagen which is a continuation of what happened last season since tuchel took over Believe me we do not care even a little bit about the Bundesliga, our problem is HOW we lose it We are uninspiring, boring and dead, we are not Bayern now that's our problem

@pelumijegede5833

2 ай бұрын

@@Ananas-280 I understand your point but after years of domination, complacency starts to form among the players, coaching staff and club atmosphere. It's not just Tuchel really, Dortmund literally handed bayern the league last season, even two seasons ago, the performances were starting to look lacklustre. This season should be used as a launching pad, make a few changes to coaches, players etc and then next season it's back to domination

Guys Bayern isn't that bad this season. Leverkusen is undefeated this season. You can't do anything about that

@epicmarschmallow5049

2 ай бұрын

I mean 3-0 loss to their main competitors, bad performance in the champions league and losing to an amateur side are really bad, way worse than the standing implies

@NWbeats

2 ай бұрын

They are bad. Because Bayern normally wants to play good attractive football while also winning competitions. And they do this by winning important games. In this season, they play really unattractive football, they mostly rely on individual qualities instead of a team effort and they failed to win any important games (DFB Pokal game against Saarbrücken, Champions League first leg against Lazio, 2nd game against Leverkusen and all recent games). And their form seemingly is only trending downwards.

@bfromm4936

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean you can't do anything? You could... you know... defeat them? But not with an arrogant asshole all the players hate as a head coach...

@Ananas-280

2 ай бұрын

No, just no Bayern is horrendous in fact we deserve to be even lower in points but we've been saved many times due to just players quality Please don't talk if you know nothing about us or even watch any Bayern match apart from ucl or big matches

@dankshadow5665

2 ай бұрын

have you seen bayern play they play atrocious football

Really appreciate you bringing the long format videos back!

It’s clearly all the drama surrounding the club reaching a boiling point along with a very stubborn manager who can’t admit when he’s wrong about players. Everyone that says “Kane is cursed” does not know ball 🤡

@logirex

2 ай бұрын

Wait is the guys that so far scored 27 leagues goals in 24 matched for Bayern not to blame ? 🤔 The signs was there already last season for Bayern when they basically had Dortmund throw away the title last season in the last game.

@rafe3322

2 ай бұрын

Some people do not know jokes

@ashutoshmallick9532

2 ай бұрын

That is the joke 😂 but Bayern were bound to be exposed one day. They weren’t great in champions league since pep guardiola left except 2019-20

@fahmiluthfi7991

2 ай бұрын

Everyone that don't get "Kane is cursed" are jokes, does not know life 💀

@paradox3244

2 ай бұрын

Some people cannot take jokes and thats terrifying

The Eric Dier deal still confuses me.😂

@David-lp7of

2 ай бұрын

Actually it's sadly one of the more sensible deals if you look at the transfer windows before. They needed another player to cover for defensive mid and center back and he can provide cover and play solid (not great) if called upon. He is no financial risk and is friends with Kane which helps him feel better. The issue is that he should not be called upon this often

@Zahrul3

2 ай бұрын

Why is this guy starting over De Ligt is even more confusing

@sivaramlord9151

2 ай бұрын

@@Zahrul3 De ligt was suspended at the last game.

@Hentzau.

2 ай бұрын

They even extended his stay.

@yaneyd93

2 ай бұрын

He's been great so far.

Informative, as always, but the graphics have really gone up a level, too.

As an American, jokes and memes about Tottenham and Harry Kane aside, it's actually super refreshing to see someone other than Bayern win. Just the fact Bayern wins every year makes the Bundesliga unwatchable. It's very refreshing to see Leverkusen so close to finishing the race. I've had European expats as coworkers and they wanted to gauge my interest in watching UEFA leagues, and France, Spain, Italy, and Germany just don't have the same parity as England did until recently. Imagine my surprise when they told me that Serie A was the top league in the 90s. All I've ever known has been Juventus every single year.

@justtop5400

2 ай бұрын

Premier league became the top league itw in 2018/19. It was La Liga for nearly 20 years before that

@svkguha

2 ай бұрын

Bayern wins every season : Farmer’s league City wins every season : Most competitive league PL fans ☕️

@MJeezyPineappleTheFruitDude

2 ай бұрын

A league should not just be about who wins every year though. Atmosphere and fan culture in Germany is the best in Europe.

@c.9900

2 ай бұрын

Harry Kane shouldn't even be joked about. Without him they'd br even further behind.

@Fabii2000

Ай бұрын

bro Man city won the pl 5 times in the last 6 years. If youre only watching for the "competitivness" then youre watching the wrong league lmao

I think it's two main issues: state-owned petro clubs have distorted the transfer market, and being dominant for so long raises expectations to an unreasonable level, thus putting too much pressure on everyone (while, as the video says, making players less hungry)

@S_-if9dv

Ай бұрын

Yeah I reckon they’ll return to the top very soon. It’s impossible to consistently dominate but it’s hardly a crisis

It doesn't feel like Bayern are dramatically worse than previously, they're doing relatively well, if not quite as well as their most successful eras. what has changed is the competition. It's not that Bayern is bad this season, just that Xavi Alonso's Leverkusen side are better

The lack of a local competition just became apparent when leverkusen finally made a competition

Bayern profited from the great work of Hoeneß in the early 2010s. They were a well-run club with a good financial situation. This is no longer the case and Bayern will have to rebuild not only their squad, but also the entire management

@mkronos02

2 ай бұрын

well our finances are not the problem yet, but if we keep spending like we do it will be in a few years. Even with the outrageous transfers of the past few years, we still operate with a net gain every season. But if we can't do a proper rebuild in the next 1-2 years in the midfield, our transfer policies become unsustainable like barcalonas

@piekay7285

2 ай бұрын

@@mkronos02 That wasn‘t my point, I didn’t re-check the comment before posting it, so you are 100% correct

No one quite explains football like you guys do, thanks so much. Super insightful

Nice to finally see some other team win the Bundesliga…should’ve been Dortmund last season but we all know how that went 😬

@56postoffice

2 ай бұрын

Dortmund seem to go all "Spursy" at the wrong times.

@michaelglynn7010

2 ай бұрын

@@56postoffice Oh it’s actually astonishing how things go even like last season they had it in the bag and completely messed up somehow 🤦 had a “Saint Spurs day”

Both the players and manager have had problems. The likes of Kimmich and Goretzka have acted poorly and the manager has burned too many bridges. Poor squad planning- too much money spent on average players (Goretzka, Gnabry) has finally come back to bite the club. Its just a shame for Kane that he joined just as all of this came to a head...

Excellent work from Seb and the team 👏

Thank you for the Video!

Would love to see a video on Stuttgarts season

For years players at Bayern have been complaining about not being appreciated, and some have left because of that. This just tells that something is wrong in the management, and considering how Kahn and Brazzo were fired, I doubt the problem was with them. I have been a close Bayern fan for years, and it just hurts to see the 'family feeling' leave more and more. Sure, Bayern has been mainly a business for years before that already, but it still somehow felt like a family. That is gone for good now.

Bayern’s problem is slowly going to the direction of Manchester United. However, before things worsen even further, they need to immediately sign a coach that can work alongside the managerial team (yet still ignoring the fact that they need to give the coach time to) and if there’s any name that might suit such a description, it would be Valverde. He is known to be able to perform in a team with problematic managerial team or when the managerial team have to decide what players available to buy

Thank you for this video, shorts are just not enough for this fantastic content.

the answer is relatively simpler than people are making it out to be. when a team so thoroughly dominates a league that for a decade no one comes on top, every part of the machine, each cog becomes complacent and careless. The coaches think they can experiment because "it's just Wolfsburg/darmstadt/random third league team", the players feel like they're going through the motions because "we'll win one trophy anyways" and BTS management believes that putting in the bare minimum is okay because "we are Bayern Munich"

@imp4ktth

2 ай бұрын

this. Discipline and Morale is a must for a good team, just like Leverkusen this season

I'd say it's a combination of a few small, and probably relatively easily fixable factors that have resulted in this drop of quality. Tuchel is a great coach, but I'm not certain his playing style necessarily suits Bayern. The backroom staff issues are most likely the biggest problem, and could take a few years to get running smoothly again. Beyond that there are a few things noticeable on the pitch too, like the lack of a solid defence, especially a proper RB, and the team relying on Kane for goals too much. The biggest thing, though, is definitely the fact that Leverkusen are genuinely a very, very good team this season, with or without the problems in Munich, which amplifies all issues.

Thank you for these reflections of my favourite team! I have enjoyed watching Harry Kane, but do wonder about the cohesiveness of the team as a whole. When BM wins, the team seems to score high; losing games reflect very low scores. This tells me that something is not right. Can we lay the problem at the feet of a coach who seems not to trust the quality of some of his players? And how effective for the remainder of the season can BM be with a coach when ALL know that the end of the season is the end of his coaching at BM?

My take is: Nagelsmann noticed that his playing style didn't work and then he made the team more pragmatic. That wasn't good enough for the bosses and Tuchel was free(but maybe not available after the season) so they tried to get him during the season. But Tuchel is also a very pragmatic coach and relies more on individual quality than a specific playing style. Therefore not much changed, the games were mostly onesided but very controlled and not enthusiastic or pretty. So the points were his only upside and everytime he lost or drew, he couldn't defend their game. That was worsened by his obvious feud with many journalists, newspapers and experts. But the worst part is Leverkusen, who denied him any easy gameweek.

@bfromm4936

2 ай бұрын

I pretty much agree, but your take is kind of missing that everything actually got worse with Tuchel. Less goals scored per game, more goals conceded per game, less points per game. Not to mention (even) more unrest amongs players. Sacking Nagelsmann was a gigantic mistake. I'm amazed that it has taken this long for most people to come around to the realization that Tuchel doesn't fit Bayern. It was very obvious within the first month.

@lukagoalvic4084

Ай бұрын

@@bfromm4936 if you compare this season to last season statistically they are not really worse

As a german an FCB Fan - you are great it summarys our "Story" as the only one not native speaker on the point. Fair / hard and true. I wish the TV media would talk about us in such a way..... but we all know the level of deep of the sun an co. Great work!

You missed the signing of Kim Min-Jae. You didn't bring up all the transfers.

@elliotarmitage8553

28 күн бұрын

you could see his face in the 'inconsistent / yet to be seen' part

They are in turmoil cause Hoenes is gone. His influence and stability are only seen when he was gone. Respect for him showing any team out there how to run a club. And now the cracks are showing. And I was the longest time dortmund fan...till last game last season.

this video is key to highlight serious underlying issues bayern has had for a long time

Great video overview. Relations go a long way in football at all levels of the hierarchy which shows unparalleled differences between Tuchel's reign at Chelsea compared to Bayern. "Kane" will always be the butt of the joke as to why Bayern are suffering from a lack of success in his first season, but obviously everyone knows that isn't the case.

The main problem is still cohesion. Their is zero cohesion between the board and manager. The incoming manager will need to immediately use the talent the squad has (aging or overpaid aside) while Freund and Eberl supplement that group with players that will develop and grow, but can also contribute now without the massive egos attached. Zaragoza is a prime example. Tel, Musiala are amazing talents and should be built around and Pavlovic is making a name for himself as well. The way we've used De Ligt has been been shambolic considering he is a leader and the backline sorely needs one.

Let's go!!!! The old format of videos is back.

Bayern have definitely slipped up in moments but the Media coming for Tuchels head is just dumb. Leverkusen have been exceptional this season and we are seeing almost a once in a century performance from them, like what happened with Leicester, the season that Leicester won the EPL . That’s really the only reason Bayern aren’t winning the league

Just Kane's luck that he get's sent to the German Football Machine just as it starts breaking down and leaving him trophyless again, obviously not his fault just seems sod's law.

No team should win that many titles consecutively, that their run has ended is good for Germany. Sadly, the status quo is likely to resume in the near future

Individual performances are the only hope at this point and if Leverkusen dont do a dortmund its all over for bayern in the bundesliga. I just wish and hope that somehow Bayern move to the QF to save some blushes.

Nagelman sack was really a weird sacking overall, he got sacked at Champions league semifinal, while leading the bundesliga

Hi Tifo/Joe Devine, I just saw I was for some reason unsubscribed and now need to go on the record and say I have been subscribed and watching since this was Umaxit football!

BTW your book was awesome -tifo team

I still think it is the roster. The players did conspire against Nagelsmann, they are doing the same against Tuchel. There is a difference between _Leverkusen is doing extraordinarily good,_ and _Bayern is losing points when they shouldn’t._

I think a lot of the problems come from the power the players had regarding sacking their manager. Previously Kovac had to go, because the team disliked him. It seemed, they are playing against him and below their expecations, in order to get him sacken. Nagelsman was simmilar and now this sort of thing happens to Tuchel.

@matafaka2060

18 сағат бұрын

Tuchel have to leave not because the players didn't like him, but because bayern came second

Even though it is not a bad season considering the points in the Bundesliga, it could become a trophy less one, which in Bayern terms is unacceptable. However, I doubt that the coach or the sporting managers are accountable, since multiple changes in either role did not have the desired impact. Something within the team is either missing or interfering with the Bayern mentality of having success no matter what, which reflects on the performance on the pitch. I do not think that I have ever experienced a Bayern squad having two consecutive matches without a shot on target.

Look, Tuchel has his faults. But he is not the problem. (people who joke about Kane should get a life, that man is amazing). The problem is the Management on top of Tuchel. Since Kahn everything has been a chaos (sacking a manager mid-season never works). Top directors are worried about PR and branding than actually work long term. Look at howmany short-term panic signings we are making past 3 years.

Well, the future still looks bright, as they have gems like Musiala, Tel and Pavlovic at the club; Tuchel made a mess from Bayern, he’s confrontational and stubborn - this teams needs someone with better man-managment, not to get into “fights” with key players like Joshua, Thomas, Manu or Leon. I can already see Bayern dominating next season, because this team is getting into it’s prime with Kane settling in, Sane-Gnabry-Coman getting healthy and a coach who will just put players into their natural positions (for example, play DeLigt over Upamecano)… The beast will awake again trust me.

Bayern can no longer just go out and buy the very best players when premier league teams have as much if not more money. They wanted De bruyne/Sancho/Van diyk and more but couldn't match the offers. It's a similar story with thiago and alaba, both offered more money elsewhere and Bayern struggled to replace.

calling bayern unconvincing in europea while completly dominating united and comfortably securing first place in group stages is way to much. Today they will smash lazio and then everythings changes again.

@theproman317

2 ай бұрын

nice call!!

If you look at their points total at 24 games for the last ten years you can see the issue started in the 2018/19 season. The four years before that their points at 24 games were: 61, 62, 59, 60. Since 2018/19 it has been 54, 52, 55, 58, 52 last year and 54 this year

Whenever a clubs churns through managers at a rate of knots. Serious questions must be asked of the judgement and integrity of the owners and directors.

The editing on this video was particularly amazing! Love tifo 💗

as a bayern fan, alonso’s leverkusen has been the wake up call for us!

We are in an era where so many legendary clubs are declining. Bayern, Man Utd, Chelsea, Barca...

It clearly shows no one in comment section knows anything about Bayern, and the problems club is going through rn

The biggest problem is, that the bosses have no patience at all. A new manager comes in and he instantly has to be perfect. No time for development like they did it with Klopp in Liverpool. He loses two games in a row, and he’s out. That‘s such a rotten system that in the future will scare top managers and top players away, i‘m afraid

Not much has gone wrong tbh, the better question is to ask why is Bayer Leverkusen overperforming, it's a record breaking year, and as someone else pointed out Bayern have more points at this point than they did last year.

Is it because there so used to being the top club, that just are not used to other clubs being at the same level. It easier to play as big bad bayren, then having to chase after another.

Bring back Hansi Flick!

Tuchel is unable to allow his teams to Adjust or improvise during games. That lack of freedom hurts senior players and teaches young players to be one dimensional. I believe tuchel would be better suited for a national team.

I'd like a video on Thiago Motta's Bologna squad and its star zirkzeeeee

Wow i didnt know tifo was still going

Very complex Situation but you did a good job of summarizing it. The Problems tis Club as are now coming to light this Season...

The most important line in the video: "A downturn in relative terms." They cant win every year, 12 yr in a row is legendary. Plus theyre still alive in the CL regardless of how theyve played up to the quarters.

not rly that much. leverkusen is like 12 points abvoe xPoints and bayern is slightly underperforming. it's a freak season. almost to the degree of union berlin getting that far up last season.

No Holding midfielder. Not enough defenders play to with 5 in the back. So you can‘t change the System to hide that missing defensive midfielder. I really think if there was the Lack of that player profile is the main reason for the bad performance.

The bigger overall problem is something you see in the national Team aswell. We are underperforming very hart, because many coaches mainly use FCB players, which tend to be arrogant, full of themselfs and are in a slumb. Kimmich is very controversial in germany, because he always claimed he wants to be a leader, a captain and what not, but plays quite bad. Sane is moody, Goretzka lost his form, Neuer is number 1 even though he had a long injury and is not in top form atm. and Müller... well i don't know why we waste a spot for him, just because he has a "strong mentality". We have other players for that. I really hope that Nagelsmann keeps his promise and nominates the best players, so that we see more players from Stuttgart or Beier from Hoffenheim in the national team.

The biggest mistake that led to the problem was the installment of Oliver Kahn. The second biggest mistake was to fire Nagelsmann - Bayern was still in all competitions and had an aggressive new style that was more and more getting into the team.

who is that player in the bottom left at 3:18 that has proven unsuccessful?

They dont have patience. Just like chelsea. Roberto di mateo won them CL in 2012 but was sacked next year for a draw againt juve in CL. Sacking managers like Nagelsmann and Ancelotti speaks volumes of how thr club functions.

It is a question of key moments. Losing the cup, losing the Leverkusen game. They are not playing badly. The full irony would be If they won Champions League, of which they are fully capable. Defence could be improved, Otherwise they’re aaight. Just, Leverkusen are magical now. That comparison hurts.

Bayern have a coaching & board problem. The players are not necessarily the issue. The club just needs to be proactive like they've been for years.

@archaicrapture

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Culture problem, too. The amount of talent signed to them only to leave after a season is a huge problem that is not talked about.

@thewonkyembouchure

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The situation encapsulates a multifaceted organisational challenge rather than a deficit in player capabilities. The challenge is rooted in strategic oversight, indicating a need for a more dynamic and forward-thinking paradigm that fosters synergy between the coaching staff and board. Historically, the club has exemplified less blue sky thinking and agile management, but, given the present flux in productivity, they could do with an injection of proactive governance....

Probably many pointed this out, but to me (not a fan, just an outsider) it looks like the downfall began since Lewa left. Left a huge gap - not only as a striker, but it seems like the other players lost motivation. They got lucky last season - they didn't win the title. BVB lost it. And that exit from UCL was really humiliating. But overall I think it's good for the league. It was becoming boring and too predictable.

The thing is, other than the DFB pokal, Bayern are performing better in the league than last year and are still through to the quarterfinals in the Champions League.

Bayern aren’t in crisis at all… they are going at the same pace as they have been for the last 5 seasons. The difference is another team is having an absolute stellar season. Kind of like when Leicester City won the BPL… they just had a remarkable season, and Leverkusen is doing the same. The only part I would say that is missing is teamwork, especially from Sane. There have been too many times, especially early in the season, that Sane has been taking ridiculous shots when Kane was clear and able to take a clean shot. The other aspect that has changed over the last couple seasons is their clownish defending. Silly mistakes have cost them too many goals..

This Bayern crisis is neither a results crisis nor a manager or squad crisis. The issues stem from management tensions that have been going on for years. Similar to United's power vacuum after SAF departure Bayern is not able to handle Hoeness and Rummenigge leaving the club. In fact, Hoeness himself is not even able to give up his influence. The results on the pitch, the poor team structure, bad transfers, Nagelsmann being kicked out for no actual reason, all that were homemade (@Germans, what's the translation for hausgemacht?) problems. Kahn and Salihamidzic were extremely poor instalments. Kovac was a coach without a concept but only hired because he had success and a Bayern past. Ancelotti was given no time. Flick wanted to leave to join the DFB because management couldn't get on with him. The issues go back multiple years. There has been no manager in his position for two full seasons since Guardiola. And he left 2016. That is not bayernlike. Before they will sort out themselves it will take some time. Sure, they won the CL in 2020, but they probably don't even remember themselves how they did it.

One team having a stranglehold on their league title is not good for business. Look at the PREM race this year and last. Knowing who’s going to win at the beginning of the season is not exciting.

Nice summary of what happend. But you haven‘t answered the question, what is the acctual issue..

it is more related to board members rather than players and coaches

Tuchel just isn’t cut out for jobs of this calibre, it’s too big of a climb for him. The players are divided over him, some want him to stay and the others don’t. The moment he leaves and the structure changes that’s when Bayern will be back

Bayern Munich can't stand the idea of not winning Bundesliga for a season even after wins it 11 years in a row, Bayer Leverkusen will win the Bundesliga for the first time in their history and break Bayern's dominance.

I think it is long time problem since last few seasons.

Greetings from Saarbrücken ✌🏻

Simple, complacency. Its difficult to keep up high standards when you win the league at a canter, now they have a strong contender they have been caught out, they'll bounce back soon

Tifo never disappoints... As a Bayern supporter I absolutely agree with the fact that it's been years of mismanagement by the board that is to blame

Bayern is probably my favorite team , but I’ll say I’m happy. It looks like they are gonna win the title. Shockingly it’s not fun to watch the same team always win.

As a Chelsea fan and a Dortmund fan I love Thomas Tuchel. But his inability to connect with players, and Being difficult to deal with from the boards perspectives, Made him a questionable candidate when buyer hired him, and it shows

@sidleerling6206

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bro who did you even support last season when the two teams faced each other in the cl?😭😭

@andremarcosmendessiqueira9756

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I cried when the draw was made. Chelsea is the reason why I love football they are my 1st team. Dortmund is my second So I went with Chelsea, but it was hard to watch. @@sidleerling6206

@andremarcosmendessiqueira9756

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@sidleerling6206 really hoping I’m not replying to this twice because pretty sure I replied to it once already. I cried when the draw was redone. But Chelsea is the reason why I fell in love with football again back in 2012. So Chelsea is my first club Doarte is my second. I was rooting for Chelsea, but it was so gut wrenching to watch. I would be happy with whichever team won.

Well, if Bayern are able to pursuade Jupp Heynckes to manage a year or two of rebuild again (and win UCL in the process), that may be an option.

In the end, it could still be a good thing for Germany 🇩🇪 and their domestic football. It’s been the most predictable league for 12 years, another champion that plays with the type of identity Alonso has is good for the league; different ideas 💡 & styles that can win titles.

Seems to me that they are going down the Chelsea road fast (see the recent The Athletic video) if they don't take care ...

Main issue was their transfer philosophy. They get at times blinded by success and mis judge the importance of Keeping the squad AAA quality at all times with new stars to fit in. Keeping the competition within the team at highest level and adding Through prestige star players like Kane this mentality high at all times. And these players bringing results of course. Many players were signed but quickly let go after a lackluster season. Mane best example. And besides Kane, their last few signings are mediocre at best! They have world class players in every part of the squad but when it comes to the depth of squad quality, I don’t see as much triple A quality competition like they had 10 years ago. Back then I still can’t believe how packed their squad was with legends and world class players. One of th best squads in all of football history, no doubt about it. But Dier, Boey, Zaragoza?! Maybe good for substitute players during Bundesliga mid season but in key moments during champions league spell? Are u kidding me? I hope they find again the mentality of Bayern’s „Mia San Mia“, we are better then everybody else attitude and have bosses and ceos who are willing to invest big money for big players and not count too much on developing future world class playersY it works time and time again (Musiala, Müller, Schweinsteiger etc. ) good examples of the past and recent past. But no Real Madrid. No man city, no Barcelona, no PSG is build with such players primarily, it’s about hyper quality and prestige and this sadly in this day and age is cöming via big time spending for big time names leading most the time to big time results 😂

I once had this situation in Football Manager. Long save, won the league about 20 years in a row, challenged the Champions League, being in the final a couple of times. But one time I had a tougher season, a couple of defeats, 8th in the table halfway through the season. I thought - I've done so much for them, we can let go of the league title this season, and rebuild, come back stronger next year. No, I was sacked. Then I took over another club and I was even better, and my old club, it was slipping into mediocrity. If you win the league title 11 years in a row, then let yourself breathe by not winning the 12th. Bayern will be back.

Jesus, a team that hasnt lost a match is beating them. If thats a crisis then chelsea is having a meltdown

It hurts to see but all reigns must come to an end, hopefully Bayern's dismal failures this year spur on long term lasting change

its weird that the narrator contradicted himself saying its more than who coaching the team when he already criticised tuchel tactics and management style. the fact there was 2 managers after guardiola had been successful makes no sense that the club had crisis. the only weird thing bayern did was to sack nagelsmann. the right thing to do is that they let manager run their contract out while searching for replacement. in that sense they did the right thing by sacking kahn and salihamidz for the break in principle and by publicly announce the departure of tuchel. this season obviously an outlier with leverkusen had been invincible thus far but next season should be better.

People believe that in competitive sports the hardest part is finishing first, but it isn't. The hardest part is keeping it once you've got it. The people (or teams) in second place have something to aim for - like the carrot in front of a horse. You do not have this luxury when you are in first place. You have to give 100% every time, because those behind you are chomping at the bit. In the case of Bayern, they are still the best team on paper, but they just happen to be losing to a team which works well together. Sacking Tuchel because of Leverkusen's success is one of the dumbest business moves I've seen in a long time.