What REALLY Happened at The Council of Nicaea?

I got the great privilege to sit with my friend and brother in Christ, Wesley Huff, and ask him to talk about this. I would consider Wesley to be an expert on this sort of topic, so I find what he has to say on this topic to be very compelling and hopefully will be to you too.
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  • @troyjhinkle
    @troyjhinkle2 жыл бұрын

    For as much as Christians put their faith in the Bible, I find it so sad that so many don't know how we got the Bible and the origins of scripture. I have had to do a lot of digging to get some good understanding of this as it isn't taught in the pulpit and I am so surprised that it isn't. Knowing this is so foundational as it is one of the biggest things under attack today. Thanks for sharing.

  • @American-Jello
    @American-Jello3 жыл бұрын

    Whenever Melissa says "one more question", you know she's really restraining herself because she probably has a hundred more questions in her mind 😂

  • @weedeeohguy

    @weedeeohguy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Columbia-esqu? 😉 trench coat and old car for Melissa. Appreciate your vids.

  • @__.Sara.__
    @__.Sara.__3 жыл бұрын

    I recently had a Muslim tell me that the council of Nicea essentially created the Trinity! I wasn't sure where to start researching, so this couldn't have come at a better time. Thank you so much for making a video on this topic! Edit: Just finished watching it 😊 I'm going to rewatch and take notes after I get my daughter to bed and I'll be able to better inform the Muslim that I'm talking with!

  • @corsairusawc

    @corsairusawc

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is true. They also changed the formula for baptism from baptizing in the name of Jesus to using the phrase in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit

  • @peteragenga3805

    @peteragenga3805

    3 жыл бұрын

    Muslims would use arguments to try and dismiss Christianity...they are really good at that, just know your bible well and avoid these ideologies, it is only God's power that can win any argument as described by Paul in both 1st and 2nd Corinthians.

  • @anncarroll7354

    @anncarroll7354

    3 жыл бұрын

    She did an interview with a person on his book Tactics (using the Colombo method) which might help you in the future. I’m sorry but his name is escaping my mind at the moment 😖

  • @suvrabiswas7364

    @suvrabiswas7364

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@corsairusawc because thats what bible teaches

  • @suvrabiswas7364

    @suvrabiswas7364

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@corsairusawc listen to this video carefully...don't make up stuff by yourself and fool others

  • @MTravisVolker
    @MTravisVolker3 жыл бұрын

    KZread needs a love button! Thank you two for being vessels for God’s purpose!

  • @prayerwarrior7778
    @prayerwarrior77783 жыл бұрын

    I love this. I’m a historian myself, still working on my degrees. This is a nice framework that gives me stuff to look up later and study. Thank you.

  • @mathiusr218

    @mathiusr218

    2 жыл бұрын

    may GOD guide you and bless you sister. amen

  • @kels4754
    @kels47543 жыл бұрын

    I have been unitarian my entire life, but recently have been interested in challenging some of my beliefs in regards to the trinity. This video is very interesting, and definitely inspires me to rethink some things.

  • @Love2LoveGOD22

    @Love2LoveGOD22

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm just right now on the opposite way. It's weird, not easy. God bless

  • @Larrys-88Keys

    @Larrys-88Keys

    2 жыл бұрын

    You better pray long and hard about this!

  • @tedtuttle6527
    @tedtuttle65272 жыл бұрын

    I could easily become a church history geek if all I had to do was listen to history teachers like this very enlightening & informational because I'm not a dedicated reader unfourtanetly. My attention span is short when reading till my eyes go shut & I find myself asleep.cant wait till I can come across another history lesson. Thanks Melissa & Wesley!@

  • @kpeterson1342
    @kpeterson13423 жыл бұрын

    This is AWESOME you guys! I want to play it on loud speakers out my window to the whole city! I look forward to coming back at my "you're brainwashed' unbelieving friends with the question of where they get their credentials in theology.... which I know is Dan Brown and Indiana Jones. I know the real reason is that they just love their sin more than they love to learn. Wesley is spot on...LAZINESS is the reason. Thank you for this extremely helpful discussion. I will share it with my friends and we will all be edified. God bless you, Melissa! I'm going to check out Wesley's blog :)

  • @antwanalexander4920
    @antwanalexander49202 жыл бұрын

    Amen in the mighty name of Jesus Christ 😇👏🏾😇❤️ so thankful and grateful that I saw this video 😇👏🏾😇❤️

  • @jomireel
    @jomireel3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Melissa! I've found you recently. Thanks for your job. I would like to tell you a lot of things but I don't speak or write English very well. God bless you. Un abrazo desde México.

  • @veronica-official
    @veronica-official3 жыл бұрын

    I respect the work you're doing. So many misconceptions are taught these days and it's so refreshing to find solid Biblical teaching. This interview is fascinating. I will definitely come back to it. I would like to know if you've heard about World Mission Society Church of God. It is a sectarian church and the teachings are a mix of Mormonism, Jehovah's Witness and craziness. My daughter is involved in that sect that by the way, has millions of followers and I would love for you to talk about it. I would write more but this is a comment and not a dissertation. 😂 I just pray you will feel curious to know a bit about it. At the moment my daughter won't speak to me or let me see my grandkids. Their beliefs have a lot to do with that. To give you an idea, they think the Holy Spirit is a woman living in Korea and they believe in God the Father and god the mother, who is supposed to be Jerusalem.

  • @LucDespresLifeCoach

    @LucDespresLifeCoach

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Tim Tim Yes, Mike Winger is the man to go to for understanding of the World Mission Society from a Christian perspective.

  • @sonjaszaukellis6119

    @sonjaszaukellis6119

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh...wow...I'm not familiar with this heresy.

  • @lsnymodel
    @lsnymodel3 жыл бұрын

    This... was... PHENOMENAL! Thanks MD and thanks to your special guest for the easy to follow breakdown.

  • @revade6698
    @revade66983 жыл бұрын

    Dear Melissa: I very much enjoyed this video with Wesley Huff (a fellow Canadian and scholar). I was also quite pleased to see that you recommended his KZread channel as one of your “Ten(ish) Recommended.” I couldn’t agree more. I just wanted to pass on to you that our denomination recites the Nicene Creed at every service of Holy Communion, as follows: “I believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, And of all things visible and invisible: And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, Begotten of the Father before all worlds; God, of God; Light, of Light; Very God, of very God; Begotten, not made; Being of one substance with the Father; Through whom all things were made: Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, And was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, And was made man, And was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried, And the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, And ascended into heaven, And sitteth on the right hand of the Father. And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead: Whose kingdom shall have no end. And I believe in the Holy Ghost, The Lord, The Giver of Life, Who proceedeth from the Father and the Son, Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified, Who spake by the Prophets. And I believe One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins. And I look for the Resurrection of the dead, And the Life of the world to come. Amen.” [Please don’t let the rather archaic language throw you for a loop. As Traditional (i.e., Orthodox) Anglicans, we still use the 1962 Canadian Book of Common Prayer or “BCP.” By the way, the original BCP - or “Prayer Book” - was enacted by the first Act of Uniformity of King Edward VI of England in 1549 (it having been chiefly compiled by Thomas Cranmer, who became Archbishop of Canterbury in 1533 during King Henry VIII’s reign)]. Additionally, all other rites and/or worship services contained in the BCP (e.g., Morning & Evening Prayer; The Ministration of Holy Baptism; The Order for Confirmation; The Solemnization of Matrimony; The Burial of the Dead; etc.) make use of the Apostles’ Creed, as follows: “I believe in God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth: And in Jesus Christ his only Son our Lord, Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, Born of the Virgin Mary, Suffered under Pontius Pilate, Was crucified, dead, and buried: He descended into hell; The third day he rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, And sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty; From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. I believe in the Holy Ghost; The holy Catholic Church; The Communion of Saints; The Forgiveness of sins; The Resurrection of the body, And the Life everlasting. Amen.” Anyway, to say the least, my wife and I are "big fans" of your channel and - as former youth workers and Christian Educators - are very much looking forward to the video series you are currently producing with your 10-year-old daughter, Jasmine. In the meantime, we will keep you, your most powerful (and much-needed!) ministry, and your family very much in our daily prayers. Please stay healthy and safe. Yours in Christ, Father Alan

  • @joshmeyers372

    @joshmeyers372

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Jeaux_Bleaux you call your earthly Dad father yes? It’s like LORD and Lord in the Bible, the word may seem the same but the title isn’t equal

  • @pamelaadam9207

    @pamelaadam9207

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi we use that today in the kirk o scotland but its like rote learning when you start to reflect on the manings you can see the open mouthed realisations

  • @arlyssepena-furlow2040
    @arlyssepena-furlow20403 жыл бұрын

    This is a fantastic program. I have had many questions about the Council of Nicea and there are so many lies about it. Thank you so much!

  • @britneymithiel560
    @britneymithiel5602 жыл бұрын

    I had a coworker who used to be a Pastor who told me the Bible was put together by a council and that the Bible was FULL of human error because it was "made by men for men" and this is so unbiblical!!! LOL I can't wait to present him with this new i for and hopefully put his heart and hope back in the living word and Jesus!

  • @Irene77545
    @Irene775453 жыл бұрын

    Amazing content as always! I'm very eager for the upload with ur daughter!! ❤️🙌🙌🙌

  • @hannahdeforest9148
    @hannahdeforest91483 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for taking the time to clear this up. I really wish I’d had this information in college.

  • @robertmyers4301
    @robertmyers43013 жыл бұрын

    That was such a great video, helps me defending against people who like to give the DaVinci code some kind of authority

  • @sunflowerheather7019
    @sunflowerheather70193 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your work here on you tube. Thank you.

  • @danaegore3815
    @danaegore38153 жыл бұрын

    I am grateful for this. It’s so hard to good info on this council. I have prayed and ask God about when things really began to go wrong in the Church, the First Council of Nicaea always comes to my mind, but research for it is always filled with speculation and myth. I am definitely going to dig into the references he offered.

  • @joshmeyers372

    @joshmeyers372

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Christian church was 1 for the first 1,000 years. After that it got skewed

  • @susanmathai2266
    @susanmathai22663 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Melissa & Wesley for this very informative discussion. I enjoyed it very much and it is important for the Saints to be equipped to help them distinguish the truth from the lie. God bless you both! Shalom 💐

  • @debbiegagne4593
    @debbiegagne45933 жыл бұрын

    Always so excited to see when u have a new video! Always great content girl!! God bless your ministry 😁😘

  • @NicoleET88
    @NicoleET883 жыл бұрын

    Yaaaay! Very excited for this. This issue has caused a LOT of stumbling.

  • @pamelaadam9207
    @pamelaadam92072 жыл бұрын

    This takes me back to church history and systematics in the divinity faculty at Aberdeen University. It totally gobsmacked me when preaching during the vacancy at the church where I was the older adult paster that no one there had heard of the council and the impact on faith now.

  • @pureokie
    @pureokie3 жыл бұрын

    You have some great KZread video's but this was far and beyond the best I have heard. I throughly enjoyed listening and learning from Wesley and am heading to his website. Thanks Melissa.

  • @mamaluvsherbabes
    @mamaluvsherbabes3 жыл бұрын

    Wow...excellent! Thank you, Mellissa and also thank you to Wesley! :) God bless you guys!

  • @tereserodgers8789
    @tereserodgers87893 жыл бұрын

    My favorite so far of your broadcasts. Thx Wesley and Melissa.

  • @tracykarol
    @tracykarol2 жыл бұрын

    This is fascinating! I hope there are books about this to read.

  • @stephenmichaels6682
    @stephenmichaels66823 жыл бұрын

    According to our apostle paul’s ministry in The King James Bible,we are only saved by believing The Gospel of Jesus Christ,1st Corinthians Chapter 15 verse 1-4.Jesus Christ died on the cross,spilled His Blood for all of our sins,was buried and rose again on the third day.Jesus Christ Spilled Blood is what saves you when you believe this plan of salvation with your heart.

  • @dub9raider

    @dub9raider

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s correct. However, who sent Jesus Christ to die fir our sins?

  • @Deedee0007
    @Deedee00073 жыл бұрын

    I actually don't know why it took me so long to finally see your channel Melissa, but I am very, very glad I did. God bless you! And Wesley as well :)

  • @krenomichael1812
    @krenomichael18123 жыл бұрын

    Well articulated and easy to follow. I hope he writes a book about this.

  • @Monpris0590
    @Monpris05903 жыл бұрын

    This was very educational, learning a lot. Thank you for doing this.

  • @estar1277
    @estar12773 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. Blessings to you both.

  • @kenroc546
    @kenroc5463 жыл бұрын

    Keep it up. Content is on point. God bless

  • @brandysnyder4606
    @brandysnyder46063 жыл бұрын

    Great video and so informative. Thank you!

  • @kathrynbarnhill2709
    @kathrynbarnhill27092 жыл бұрын

    I’m working on my M.Div. I need to keep track of him. This is a fascinating area!

  • @danielbrowniel
    @danielbrowniel3 жыл бұрын

    I really like this channel.. My usual go to is Mike from On Point Preparedness.. You both kind of do the same thing, expose dangerous doctrine, but he's coming out of a hebrew roots experience (which I never knew about). And when I look at Melissa's guest talk about their new age experiences, I'm like hey, I experienced half of that when I went full blown psychotic break down.. no one taught me anything.. it seems the demons use the same tools to hurt us, in my case almost destroyed my marriage.

  • @winnienyameba
    @winnienyameba3 жыл бұрын

    I learnt so much. Thank you

  • @andreasamakutsi9191
    @andreasamakutsi91913 жыл бұрын

    I really love this...

  • @melissaconner9538
    @melissaconner95383 жыл бұрын

    Great interview, I learned so much!

  • @duhli4493
    @duhli44933 жыл бұрын

    Thanx for history lesson! Enjoyed it🙏

  • @k.p.1139
    @k.p.11393 жыл бұрын

    This was AWESOME! More please!!

  • @robinwyckoff9604
    @robinwyckoff96042 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for interview and posting. Very interesting and helpful. I have a very human answer to people when they ask me how I can believe that God is triune. A middle eastern Christian once told his middle eastern Muslim friend that he himself was a multifaceted individual His friend was indeed a father, a husband, and a son.. His friend accepted the God could be triune without be one of 3 Gods. It was his first step to understand Christ as God .

  • @HoldFastApolpgetics
    @HoldFastApolpgetics2 жыл бұрын

    Feb 24 🙌🏻… my birthday as well! Wonderful interview! Thank you both!

  • @kerisutt7579
    @kerisutt75793 жыл бұрын

    The new intro looks great.

  • @ThatSoulsGirl
    @ThatSoulsGirl3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this, very interesting!

  • @veronica-official
    @veronica-official3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know if you know about the work of Justo González. He is a very respected theologian who wrote an encyclopedia that is now a very big book about the history of Christianity. He also explains very well about this theme. I think his work is in English. It is used in seminaries.

  • @chrispowell1768

    @chrispowell1768

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have. Great Historian.

  • @jessiealexander6190

    @jessiealexander6190

    3 жыл бұрын

    Used his book in my Christian History and Theology 2 class my senior year of college

  • @andrewweeks3938
    @andrewweeks39383 жыл бұрын

    This was fantastic !

  • @carlv1379
    @carlv13793 жыл бұрын

    We in the academic world always talk about the time after Jesus died, and preachers always say after The Resurrection.

  • @MushroomNr1
    @MushroomNr12 жыл бұрын

    You explained this very well! I definitely learned a lot. Knowing this will help clear up misconceptions.

  • @tomstephhunt
    @tomstephhunt3 жыл бұрын

    This was great. Very easy to follow.Than you both.

  • @justjanice8373
    @justjanice83733 жыл бұрын

    Really well explained. 😊

  • @bravenewanimalfarm2080
    @bravenewanimalfarm20802 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Huff is correct that the trinity was not invented at the Council of Nicea. However, he gets some facts wrong. For example, he said that Arius was influenced by Socrates of Constantinople. Constantinople didn't even exist yet. Furthermore, Socrates of Constantinople wasn't even born yet. He also states, there was no Papal office established at the time. Even secular historians can list all the Popes beginning with Peter. I suspect that Mr. Huff has only been reading Protestant text books and not the actual writings of the early Christians.

  • @w.m.woodward2833
    @w.m.woodward28333 жыл бұрын

    Excellent and thorough discussion. Well worth a listen. 👍

  • @frankmez9370
    @frankmez93703 жыл бұрын

    A book 📖 that can help. “The Apostasy That Wasn’t”. By Rod Bennett. He also had a talk on this on a program called. “The Journey Home”. Also Wesley reminds me by voice, of Dr. Matthew Bunson. An American author, more than 50 books, historian, professor, editor, theologian, and more! That’s seems to be interesting. He too is on “The Journey Home”, program. With many other wonderful people. Dr. Scott Hahn, Dr. David Anders, Johanette Williams (has a program called “Women of Grace”, on Wednesday’s with Sue Brinkman, they talk about the errors of the New Age). Tim Staples, Steve Ray, Patrick Madrid, just so many people to learn more about God, from brother’s and sister’s as you both. Greetings and blessings. 01/26/21.

  • @Janice-d-witnessing
    @Janice-d-witnessing3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, this is so beautifully explained!! Love it. Thank you for sharing. Church history is SO fascinating, isn't it? Minor thing, but your title is spelled incorrectly. :) It should be Nicaea.

  • @MelissaDougherty

    @MelissaDougherty

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for telling me! 🙂

  • @Janice-d-witnessing

    @Janice-d-witnessing

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MelissaDougherty You're most welcome. I've made that same mistake, myself!

  • @nuria6358
    @nuria63582 жыл бұрын

    46:00 the thrill of transgression, harmonizes beautifully with gen 3 and temptation of forbidden fruit. thank you guys, this is very needed,thank God he led me to this!

  • @ruthgaver1256
    @ruthgaver12563 жыл бұрын

    I shared and watched this on repeat 🔁 Thank you both! Also I’m a new subscriber! 👩🏻‍🍳🤗

  • @gbC4mpos
    @gbC4mpos3 жыл бұрын

    This was amazing! Huge blessing... I actually started reading into this topic a while back and came to the conclusion: "this isnt what everyone says the council of nicea was about..." Very thankful for this Melissa and Wesley!

  • @cathyh.8561
    @cathyh.85613 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your research and information...C & S..🙏

  • @alancrabb
    @alancrabb3 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, thank you. For a rather different view of Arius, see 'Arius: Heresy and Tradition' by Rowan Williams (2002). From the blurb : "Rowan Williams argues that Arius himself was actually a dedicated theological conservative whose concern was to defend the free and personal character of the Christian God. His "heresy" grew out of an attempt to unite traditional biblical language with radical philosophical ideas and techniques and was, from the start, involved with issues of authority in the church. Thus, the crisis of the early fourth century was not only about the doctrine of God but also about the relations between emperors, bishops, and "charismatic" teachers in the church's decision-making."

  • @approvedofGod
    @approvedofGod3 жыл бұрын

    Sabellius was teaching what the third century Popes were teaching! Sabellius attended the Theological School of Rome which was against the Trinity. As politics gave way to Trinitarian Popes, the strong views of Monotheism and Monarchianism were branded as heresy. Why doesn't Huff mention any of this?

  • @erical2913
    @erical29133 жыл бұрын

    This was helpful! Could you help with understanding the books that are mentioned in the Bible like the book of Enoch and the book of Jasher and the history it?

  • @kurtsherrick2066

    @kurtsherrick2066

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Apocrypha. Always wondered why the Book of Enoch wasn't put in the Bible. Since Enich was the first Person to write and take notes. You would think that maybe his Book would be after Geniuses. I do know that the Disciples used to Books of the Apocrypha as learning or teachings. For some reason I never wanted to dabble in the Apocrypha because of the Time of it's Existence. But I have always been tempted.

  • @jenniferwalker6273
    @jenniferwalker62733 жыл бұрын

    This was very educational! Thank you.

  • @helcium2022
    @helcium20222 жыл бұрын

    That's a great video. I learned a lot! Could you please talk with him again about the formation of the papacy? That's something I would like to learn about. Thanks for posting this video.

  • @gabrielmurdoch5707

    @gabrielmurdoch5707

    2 жыл бұрын

    Here's a great video about the papacy: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pn5svMihha_AdMo.html

  • @stanley1771
    @stanley17712 жыл бұрын

    Great job, thank you!

  • @bobbcarpenter7031
    @bobbcarpenter70312 жыл бұрын

    I learned that the Council of Nicea did indeed set the Canon found in the Bible. Books that were thought to be heretical were left out. This process did cause me to question and stumble for at least a decade or two. The question that still burns in my heart is this: Why aren't there any writings that cover Jesus' life from age 13 to 29? In my studies, I found books that describe someone named St. Issa who traveled through India teaching, preaching, healing, and working great miracles. And I always thought that so many teenagers and young adults would have benefited from stories of Jesus going through that same time period.

  • @navagatingthroughthebeasts2908
    @navagatingthroughthebeasts29083 жыл бұрын

    There is a guy who tagged me on here with a video saying the council had put 1 000 s of books on a table & ones that were on the top of the stack the next morning were kept & rest were burnt. I dont believe that

  • @blakeavila4409
    @blakeavila44093 жыл бұрын

    Tons of people I meet online think there is no true Bible because of disagreements over which books are canon

  • @kurtsherrick2066

    @kurtsherrick2066

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everyone should believe in Devine Intervention. We should believe that what is put into the Bible is what we need to know. Men will always disagree on certain things but we should be in agreement that the Bible is exactly the Word of God. Like Melissa says the Bible is a living thing. We should always pray for the truth we seek God will lead us to answer our questions. I have found that sometimes God will put my hand and fingers on a certain place and answers my questions quickly. But other times I am not led quickly I believe because I need the Foundation of what I am led to before my questions or concerns are answered. Reading the Bible in my sixties I see things I didn't see when I read the same thing in my earlier year's. It is growing in the Spirit and obtaining Wisdom of just being blessed to make it to my elderly years. Your comment is true but we have to have that Faith that God made sure everything in His Word is what we need to know.

  • @prayerwarrior7778
    @prayerwarrior77783 жыл бұрын

    What book would you recommend that show sources to early Christian writers supporting the trinity?

  • @peterj2226
    @peterj22262 жыл бұрын

    Athanasius comments about Judith and the other books showed what was and is always clearly understood and that was that there was a primary canon of OT scripture and then a second Deuterocanon of books. He also includes Esther in this second canon which is a puzzle for those trying to use Athanasius as a support for their rejection of the Deuterocanon. Admittedly he does say that they are not canonical but what he means is that they are part of the second canon and not the first. He also admits that "these books are indeed read in churches by those new to the faith who "wish for instruction in the word of godliness" which is exactly the same terminology he used to describe the first canon. So in practical terms there is no difference between the usage and the esteem in the churches between the first canon books and the Deuterocanon. They all used and regarded both canons as scripture.

  • @GR65330
    @GR653303 жыл бұрын

    The Petrine Primacy was established biblically and confirmed by the Church fathers since the apostolic times. In other words, the primacy of the Bishop of Rome existed long before the Council of Nicaea. The Council of Nicaea still needed the Pope's approval before it became binding on the universal Church.

  • @KeyStar71
    @KeyStar713 жыл бұрын

    I would like to know your views on the sabbath keeping (not talking about adventist church) Did you or will you talk about this issue? The Lord gave me this passage when I asked him to show me If I should follow the Sabbath . I was praying and actually didnt knew much of The letter to hebrews... Hebrew 4:4-5. Upon reading it I was amazed! I red all of Hebrew 3 and 4 and this confirms that we have to keep the sabbath day ! - I recently learned that the sabbath was followed by the moon calendar making the sabbath not always on saturday... What do you think about this? Oh and thanks for all your videos concerning the new age lies that have gain most of the churches today. I was part of one and I decided to leave that church.

  • @TT-cj3ek

    @TT-cj3ek

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would like to know more in this also

  • @long2baproverbs31woman2

    @long2baproverbs31woman2

    3 жыл бұрын

    “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ”. Colossians 2:16-17 | KJV Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Mark 2:27 Hope this helps.

  • @karennelson5630
    @karennelson56303 жыл бұрын

    Excellent information!

  • @jul.est1998
    @jul.est19982 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff family!

  • @mariammohamad1006
    @mariammohamad10063 жыл бұрын

    Love your channel

  • @simonaivancic528
    @simonaivancic5283 жыл бұрын

    great..thank you..

  • @jamesrice6096
    @jamesrice60962 жыл бұрын

    ...image of "all the books" on the table at Nicea priot to the printing press and book binding.

  • @nathangoodchild6490
    @nathangoodchild64903 жыл бұрын

    Feb 24 is my birthday too Wesley!! but not 303AD......

  • @shaylamac9848
    @shaylamac98483 жыл бұрын

    Good topic

  • @Lerian_V
    @Lerian_V2 жыл бұрын

    The Book of Judith is in the Catholic Bible.

  • @truanashabadapressure6621

    @truanashabadapressure6621

    2 жыл бұрын

    No it isn’t.

  • @toomanymarys7355
    @toomanymarys73553 жыл бұрын

    Judith is in the deuterocanon/apocrypha and is kept in the Bibles of the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics. Only the RCC has aggressively pushed this group of books as totally equal to the rest of the Old Testament.

  • @peterj2226

    @peterj2226

    2 жыл бұрын

    Got any proof of this? All the ancient Christians and even the apostles themselves used the Septuagint which was a Greek translation of the Old Testament which included the extra books. Both Western and Eastern Christians from the earliest times reqarded them as equal to the other books making no distinction in their treatment of them as the divine word of God. Funny, this is the whole argument that Protestants use to show that early Christians accepted all the books of the NT even before the RCC canonised them. Yet the same argument is abandoned when it comes to the extra books in the Old Testament. Ironic isn't it that with Protestants aggressively pushing the Sola Scriptura narrative, the first thing they did was strip out books from the established scripture.

  • @dn9849
    @dn98493 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Melissa and Wesley, u have helped me a lot..I had been recently mislead that achrophya (sp) was ok to examine to confirm canonical scripture!! I am repenting right now, I pray God forgives me in Christ Jesus!! So much deception out there..I would like to know if Christmas is ok..I hear roots of it are pagan..I am confused on that issue as well as Easter..ok I can stick to canon of scripture..ty again so much God bless you all!!

  • @__.Sara.__

    @__.Sara.__

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mike Winger has a few videos about Christmas. I really recommend his channel 😊

  • @kirbyw.3451

    @kirbyw.3451

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've researched this topic a fair bit, but at the end of the day, I believe it really comes down to your relationship with God. Study what you can, and then "whether you eat or drink" (or celebrate a holiday) do it all for the Glory of God. For example, I have a bunch of Nativity sets and I leave the Wisemen in them, even though I know they weren't at His birth, and whether there were three of them is hotly contested. I know what I know, but they are still beautiful and remind me to be joyful in Him. I pray you, and all of us, will keep seeking for what delights our awesome Father!

  • @namepending11

    @namepending11

    2 жыл бұрын

    The bible says to not worship Him with the ways of the Pagans. There is a freedom in Christ, but the saying of, " as long as you do it in love and reverence of God, it is ok." NO IT'S NOT. The Hebrews built the golden calf to worship God. He was not ok w that, he was angry. I was like you, but my eyes were opened. You need to read the word and not be led.by men who worship other men. Be a berean. You will change your mind once you see the atrocious pagan practices and origins of Christmas amd Easter. God established Passover Not easter. God is the same yesterday and today. God bless.

  • @dabbler1166
    @dabbler11662 жыл бұрын

    Alot of people talk about the Council of Nicea, (Thanks!--to Melissa, for making this video). However, we hear quite little about: 1. the council of Constantinople and also, 2. the Council of Carthage. Looking at all 3 of these, i think would give a much fuller picture.

  • @pamelaadam9207

    @pamelaadam9207

    2 жыл бұрын

    The book councils creeds and controversies is worth a read. Not sure its a text used much in the USA. Also if you can't sleep the divine paradox is dry but informative.

  • @markiemisslane1188
    @markiemisslane11883 жыл бұрын

    Where and what are the 20 canons plz

  • @vanessatamplin7659
    @vanessatamplin76593 жыл бұрын

    Truth is better ! Of course 😊

  • @zionasharp4986
    @zionasharp49862 жыл бұрын

    With the point that God is one, but also is The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit, this is because God is their surname.

  • @andrewderksen3342
    @andrewderksen33423 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @steevrush
    @steevrush3 жыл бұрын

    The begotten text is an anthropomorphism. The word is a deliberate comparison to humanity, as the anthro teaches. But never mind all that - doctrine is divisive; yes, thereby we divide truth from error! :P

  • @DGolden247

    @DGolden247

    3 жыл бұрын

    How can the Word be a deliberate comparison to humanity if the Word is also God? Would that not be suggesting that humanity = God, which is heresy? The Gospel of John, Chapter 1 John 1:1-5 clearly states the divinity of “The Word”. John 1:1 (KJV) “1 In the beginning was the Word,” - stating that the Word existed before the creation of the world - “and the Word was with God,” - stating that the Word has a relationship with God - “and the Word was God.” - not only does the Word have a relationship with God, but the Word also is God, therefore God must be at least two persons. John 1:2-3 (NIV) “2 He was with God in the beginning.” - making it very clear that the Word was with God before the creation of the world, thus having the eternal attribute that makes him divine - “3 Through him all things were made;” - everything that was ever created into existence was made through the Word - “without him nothing was made that has been made.” - in other words, without the Word no created thing could ever exist. John 1:4-5 (NIV) “4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.” - The Word possesses something essential to mankind’s nature, without it mankind can’t exist properly - “5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.” - The everlasting life that the eternal Word possesses cannot be put out. John 1:6-14 clarifies who “The Word” is. John 1:6-8 (NIV) “6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.” We see John confirming who “The Word” is in John 1:29-36 (NIV) “29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ 31 I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel.” 32 Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. 33 And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 I have seen and I testify that this is God’s Chosen One.” 35 The next day John was there again with two of his disciples. 36 When he saw Jesus passing by, he said, “Look, the Lamb of God!” Therefore, Jesus is The Word. This means that Jesus existed before the creation of the world, Jesus has a relationship with God (The Father), Jesus was with God (The Father) before the creation of the world, and that Jesus is God (shares the same nature as God the Father). Everything that was ever created into existence was made through Jesus, Son of God, and everlasting life is found in Him. Back to verses 9-14, these verses further clarify who Jesus was, “9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God- 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

  • @allthingsincommon1872
    @allthingsincommon18722 жыл бұрын

    Where can a person find history books/resources with this kind of information?

  • @minamartinez8131
    @minamartinez81313 жыл бұрын

    Is the word “pseunodoconfedis”? Can someone help me out there?

  • @stevendunn2846
    @stevendunn28463 жыл бұрын

    I really liked this video, I've heard a lot of videos on the council of nicea and I've even heard one that said it was about the Sabbath day versus Sunday. But I see all of that is not accurate

  • @forwardechoes
    @forwardechoes2 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video indeed. And very useful. I personally think, that this DaVinci nice madness is really at the root of everything. Zeitgueist, mormons, islam, “Christmas is pagan” … you name it. So, “the why” is huge. Thank you for it, I think it will liberate a lot of people and give them peace and bring them closer to Jesus. Now, I must comment on a couple things. In an hour talk about the consul the Catholic Church is mentioned a couple times, to say “It came about later + - ”… I never saw a protestant this well informed of the Council. But he literally says “The Pope, did not go to Nicea” (Something I did not know) Great video, very well informed but could this be a case of selective perception? (Peter is already given authority in the Bible. There where votes, but the Church was never a democracy, neither a dictatorship) It wasn’t the Catholic? What Church was it then? It’s the Apostolic Catholic Church by the way. Why is there an obsession with "Roman2 and yet the "Apostolic" is alway ignored? I don’t know, I just hope you keep pulling that thread. Be objective. Dig into the church fathers, even Jerome. I’m not trying to be rude or funny or anything, I’m just so happy to see an Anglo Protestant who is actually up to speed with history and the beginnings of Christianity… Amazing. (Granted I'm not from the Anglo world) I’ll just add, there where many fake gospels (and other books) as you can imagine. Many counterfeits to try and corrupt the message. The canon had to be “sealed” (later than Nicea) by the Church with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. That’s why we can have a sacred scripture today. (That’s another one, if the Bible is your sole authority, wouldn’t you want to know, how/where does it came from?) The Bible is a Catholic book… How about that one? (Even the “first edition” of the King James has the 74 books. Look it up. It always had the 74 books, until 1500 years later when Luther decided to take some out, because and I quote “I can, because I want to” And it’s there that all the seeds of tthis Nicea madness where planted. Because, they had to say that the Church had been corrupted and was not the “primitive church” … and since it was the first ecumenic council, it had to be that one, including the Bible canon had to be added. And we just saw how big of a joke that is. One last thing: The thesis for Constantine being baptised by an arian on his death bed, is very strong, maybe the strongest hypotesis. But that's one of those we just don't know. Some say it was before by a legit Bishop. What we do know for sure, is that he was not that into theology. He was a military man, a brilliant leader, but not a philosher nor was he a devout Christian… or even Christian at all, one might say for most of his life at least. His mother was a Saint, literally (Santa Helena) But the battle with the image on the shielda, we can be sure of it as well. Before and after the battle. (And there where other events) Like just before the battle he was “evoking pagan stuff” after the battle he ignores all Roman costumes when coming back. He was “exiled” by the way. The battle was a miracle, he was going to get crushed, with 100% odds. The other army was infinitely superior. We know all of that and more. The history of the Church is way far more “interesting and exiting” than any Davinci code or Zeitguiest. But again, with all due respect, many Anglo Protestants seem to think Christianity started with King James. The time of the catacombs are insane. Constantine and St. Helena is an insane time in history. The rest of the Roman Empire is insane (Emperors tried to persecute Christians again. A Pope went to speak alone with Atilla the Hun, and this sanguinary left Rome alone) The creation of the Christendom in Europe on the ashes of the empire, where so many inventions and art where created. The most majestic Cathedrals where built, all fighting off constant enemies, both external and internal. Muslims, pagans… all of it. Battle of Covadonga, another miracle battle. Or Le Panto, two miracles where the faith of all of Christianity was at play. Hospitals, universities all of this was created in the Christendom and I do mean, the concept of Hospitals. The Portuguese did the impossible after many martyrs where lost at sea for 100 years, they ended up finding a way to navigate all the seas and they spread the gospels in the 4 corners of the earth. They ended, canibalism, human scarficeis… Just like the first King was told they would do, 300 years before. (After another miracle battle) Then all it suffered, during the revolutions… I mean… Church history is beyond more interesting than the Davinci bad fiction. And it’s so crazy no one even knows it… Again, with all due respect Anglo Protestants are usually “Davici Nicea” and Bam! King James. Crazy, but other people don't know it either. For example: the Miracle battle of the First King of Portugal (Battle/ Miracle of Ourique) is not even in Portuguese school books… Or any books form the last century... Anyhow, said enough… just got really exited about this video… I’m sure it will help a lot of people. Just want to encourage to take his lead… and keep pulling those threads… Jesus, founded one Church. And said he would be with it, until the end of times. He did not say, there would be 30K churches… he did not say, you will all be killed for following me for 300 years and then… a new fake thing will take over and 1500 later a German adulteror will show up, and then my message will be back… No. he gave the Apostoles authority and told them to go teach. And he made Peter the head of them. Jesus, himself said his Church would be here, form that moment, until the end of times. None of this Nicea madness. Which Church can it be? VIVA CRISTO REI ! PS: Again, wanna say congrats on the video.

  • @wisehead1830
    @wisehead18303 жыл бұрын

    Wow I never really heard about this but it was very informative and quite helpful

  • @billdedekind2501
    @billdedekind25013 жыл бұрын

    I believe in one God The Father and one Savior Jesus the Christ the son of the living God

  • @long2baproverbs31woman2

    @long2baproverbs31woman2

    3 жыл бұрын

    “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (the Word became flesh and lived among us), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” 1 John 5:7

  • @aytaj0016

    @aytaj0016

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen brother

  • @kennethmeeker6369
    @kennethmeeker63692 жыл бұрын

    I think it’s something that will be argued until we’re in front of god and we know the truth, but I love hearing this , I know Jews were of one god and didn’t vary from that belief but obviously some thought Christ was the messiah so will eventually know .

  • @1x1x1equalsoneGOD
    @1x1x1equalsoneGOD3 жыл бұрын

    The early Catholic Church baptized in the name of Jesus As it was done through out the Bible. But later changed to the trinity. Pope Ratzinger confirmed it in his book.

  • @peterj2226

    @peterj2226

    2 жыл бұрын

    I highly doubt that Ratzinger said that in his book. In any case the statement is wrong as shown from this quote from the Didache a very early Christian writing "pour water on the head thrice in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. But before the baptism let him that baptizeth and him that is baptized fast, and any other also who are able; And thou shalt order him that is baptized to fast a day or two before." Didache 7:1-4 (c. 60-100 AD). In fact Catholics still do this three time pouring in honour of the Trinity whereas protestants mainly do the dunk or the sprinkle or the single pour.

  • @deer.7304
    @deer.73043 жыл бұрын

    Melissa, I’ve watched a couple of your videos and I think you are spot on with the scripture always being the source of truth. Personally, I grew up Seventh Day Adventist and the Trinity is one our fundamental beliefs, officially introduced in 1980. I can say, like Paul, that I was zealous for my church but Jesus shook me up in 2017 when a friend of mine said the Trinity was false doctrine. After months of not wanting to touch the subject, I decided it was time but I didn’t want to be taught by any man. I said Lord you’ll have to teach me through your word. And I can say the Lord answered my prayer through the book of John. The scripture says the truth shall set you free and it most certainly did. I encourage you to study what God says and not man. Be blessed 🙏🏼 (Exercise to start, here are 3 verses that mention all 3, Mat. 28:19, 2 Cor. 13:14, 1Peter 1:2, connect all 3, who is God?)

  • @Lerian_V

    @Lerian_V

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Lord established a church to continue his teachings. The church is there to make sure you don't misinterpret what you read. Heretics never set out to become heretics. They are convinced that the Holy Spirit has led them to the truth. Yet, they ended up becoming heretics. Only the church can be trusted. You are free to study the Bible but only insofar you don't contradict the church's authoritative interpretation.

  • @DGolden247
    @DGolden2473 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate this, I definitely got to watch a second time so I can take better notes. Thanks for this!

  • @jul.est1998
    @jul.est19982 жыл бұрын

    We gotta teach that truth

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