As if being attacked by a dragon wasnt bad enough, now the dragon is a WW1 bomber too. Great.

@curseofgladstone4981

6 жыл бұрын

Riesenfriese Or fit a ballista to its back Get some anti air into that.

@jholt8518

6 жыл бұрын

I'd imagine like the real world, fantasy anti-air weapon would be developed eventually to counter them, say oversized bolas / nets or other entanglement projectiles in large numbers could be launched from trebuchets, and they could be effective in disabling dragons. Also, depends on the specific fantasy setting, magic potion projectiles could be commonly used on trebuchets

@barduk4

6 жыл бұрын

welcome to the world of temeraire

@grayscribe2125

6 жыл бұрын

Now there is an idea. Forget archers. Put several battle mages on the back of the dragon.

@jholt8518

6 жыл бұрын

+Gray Scribe get more elevation for them to cast aoe attacks lol

The correct answer is a cup of tea and scones. You're riding a dragon. No weapon you could wield would be as effective as the dragon itself. May as well have tea.

@imo098765

4 жыл бұрын

The only weapon would be some form of ranged magic

4 жыл бұрын

Such a British reply haha

@dolsopolar

4 жыл бұрын

Have good time trying to drink tea on a flying dragon

@aubreyackermann8432

4 жыл бұрын

@@dolsopolar have fun trying to look cool drinking out of a sippy cup

@hornitako7006

4 жыл бұрын

Asserting dominance with tea on a dragon

Isn’t the point of riding a dragon is that the firey death lizard below you is the weapon?

@nevermore7285

4 жыл бұрын

X. P. If I recall a part of the reason is because dragons have difficulty quickly killing other dragons, their scales make breath weapons less than helpful and claws and biting can take awhile and leave the victor incredibly wounded. The lances were faster and left the victor far less harmed

@RedFloyd469

4 жыл бұрын

It depends upon the reach of the dragon's firebreath. Hence why Shad used the flechettes. Also, there are other dragons and dragon riders to worry about. The dragon's breath is limited to one direction at a time, not to mention that the dragons themselves might be invulnerable to fire. Having ranged weaponry or single use weapons like javelins increases the range and versatility of the rider. I'd also add at least a single melee weapon for if one of the riders actually dares to climb across your own dragon and face you in a melee fight.

@diablo.the.cheater

3 жыл бұрын

@@nevermore7285 but why would you fight a dragon unit whit another dragon unit? what you do is lure the enemy unit to the range of one of you anti-air weaponry on the ground and let them take care of the enemy unit, gosh.

@oneheckofabanana2016

3 жыл бұрын

Watch the video and your question will be answered.

@snakeinabox7220

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedFloyd469 depends if its fire breath m8 Lightning. Acid. Ice. 100lbs of HCl will fuck you up

Shad: What is the best weapon for a dragon rider? Me: What about their dragon? In all honesty, though, I would prefer to use a hand crossbow.

@Space_Drifter0621

5 жыл бұрын

Or a longbow

@madisonlink7141

4 жыл бұрын

Height makes flechettes are more deadly than a bow or crossbow. A powerful crossbow or longbow will still only fire a few hundred feet straight up. If your dragon is flying higher than that, almost all of the velocity of a dropped item comes from gravity, regardless of what you're using to propel it. At that point, mass just matters more. A 1oz (~30g) arrow will bounce off someone's helmet. A 1lb (~500g) metal rock will crush their helmet and skull.

@madisonlink7141

4 жыл бұрын

@@Space_Drifter0621 The problem with a longbow (that Shad doesn't understand in his other videos) is that you don't draw it, you bend it. We don't actually have a firm idea of what this entails. There's no real instructive diagrams. But the descriptions we have from people of the time are "[My father] taught me how to draw, how to lay my body in my bow ... not to draw with strength of arms as divers other nations do," and "the Englishman did not keep his left hand steady, and draw his bow with his right; but keeping his right at rest upon the nerve, he pressed the *whole weight of his body* into the horns of his bow." This sounds like something that would require firm footing and the ability to bend your waist or knees. Simply put, take a yew longbow on a dragon, and you'll just fall off trying to bend it.

@Space_Drifter0621

4 жыл бұрын

@@madisonlink7141 Thanks for your explanation now i understand mi mistake

@sakkra83

4 жыл бұрын

What about a ....Cho-Ko-Nu? A Medieval Chinese Repeating Crossbow. Just pull the lever and a bolt flies off, rinse, repeat till the magazine is empty.

Instead of more archers I would put more dragons on my dragons' back. Because you can never have enough dragons.

@MisterSam007

6 жыл бұрын

bUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS?

@tomimakirinne

6 жыл бұрын

Dragonception

@carlosalexchin

6 жыл бұрын

Imagining a task force of massive carrier dragons with several bombers dragon on their back :)

@andresarancio6696

6 жыл бұрын

And the forefathers of the great nation of Shadatopia tamed bigger and bigger dragons, until at one point they just tied a dozen of the massive Sky Emperor dragon breed and built our grand city, travelling through the skies and raining death to those who defied them with the power of the dragon bombers

@justinthompson6364

6 жыл бұрын

Obviously, you're both wrong. On the back of a Dragon, you should put dragons that ARE archers, and on their backs you should put more dragon archers, on which you should humanoid archers, on which you should put hobbit archers.

"That's a nice house you've got there. But what about dragons?" "What about dragons?" It even works as a response to itself.

@TheManofthecross

6 жыл бұрын

yea that is the best repsonce if it can work on it'self. :P

@nathanruppel3565

6 жыл бұрын

But what about whryns?

@grayblackhelm6468

6 жыл бұрын

Nathan Ruppel What about Whryns?

@epicjn

6 жыл бұрын

But what about dragons?

@Shadeius

6 жыл бұрын

What about illithid?

This kinda reminds me a book called “His Majesty’s Dragon” from the Temeraire series, it’s about the Napoleonic wars, with dragons. In the books, multiple people would ride dragons with the use of harnesses (the dragon, a pilot, and the crew), big dragons are pretty much flying ships of doom, and smaller dragons are couriers and scouts. A thing is that dragons will bond with one person, their pilot, think Toothless and Hiccup, and while boarding is a thing, a big problem would be when a dragon is forced to bad things because the pilot was kidnapped.

"These are very ineffective weapons for a dragon rider." You forgot to say *offensive*. They are ineffective *offensive* weapons. The thing is, a rider wouldn't need an offensive weapon, because that is what the dragon is for. The rider's only concern is to guard the dragon's blind spot and defend. So a lance, spear, or even a good sword would be perfect for defending against other flying creatures that wish harm on the dragon.

@IIxIxIv

3 жыл бұрын

yeah im disappointed he almost exclusively discusses dragon vs ground, when the dragon rider is really just armed to give an advantage in dragon v dragon combat. same issue with the angel vid, yes obviously a flying angel vs a walking human you want long ranged weapons, but its not interestingly different from archers on a castle wall vs knights below.

@Drahjan_TheoryBREAK

3 жыл бұрын

@@IIxIxIv Actually, his angel (flying humanoid) video made perfect sense. Like he explained in that video, you have large wings you have to be careful of. So a bow would not be a good idea. Plus, unlike archers in a tower, flying foes move. And they can move fast. It actually doesn't bother me that he only talks about dragon vs ground troops. Like he said, the dragon is its own weapon.

@nihilviscire3349

2 жыл бұрын

How are you going to defend the dragon from absolutely nothing with a sword? Another dragon arrives bites him from the side, one throws his flare from the other side, you would be just a witness of everything that is happening if your dragon is bigger than a rhinoceros, you would not have a sword it would only serve you in the tremendously specific in case another dragon (With malleable enough scales) Put his sword under you or his eye at a sufficient distance from your arm that for some reason he did not decide to pulverize but to approach you, but in the hypothetical case that happens it would be like "Oh yes, I managed to pierce the dragon... Oh no, my sword is stuck and now I must let it go but I want the force of the dragon to take me wherever it wants" With a spear the same thing would happen, only it would be easier for you to penetrate , a sword is simply an idiotic weapon to mount a dragon, less against another, they are basically giant reptiles with integrated armor and integrated flamethrowers and already swords are not a useful weapon to pierce a temp steel armor side. In any case, bow, arrow and pray for two things, one that your precision is not compromised due to the movement of the dragon and two so that it helps to kill the rider, because you are not going to tickle the dragon before it hits you. burn me alive if you expose yourself too much. I am not talking about a fight between a dragon rider against another dragon because the only thing you have to worry about in weapons in such a case is other riders and as for the other dragon, the only thing you could do is guide yours as best as possible to face it. Perhaps there is the hypothetical case where your dragon flies at high speed close to the other in which case a blunt force weapon is your best option to attack with the charge, you really don't want to lose your weapon in a single attack because it was sharp and it was embedded in the dragon's scales.

@aridicaexmontaudon1296

11 ай бұрын

Best use case is if you find yourself dragonless

@glennthompson8378

12 күн бұрын

Many land predators attack the spine of their prey. Presumably a dragon would attack another dragon from behind or above. This would put a rider in a position to desperately defend with perhaps a spear or lance toward the enemy mouth (a tender spot in most ideas of dragons)

My immediate thought when he explained what a flichette was: "look out! They're dropping lawn darts from the dragons! Somebody should really outlaw those!" "The dragons?" "No the lawn darts!"

@garethbaus5471

3 жыл бұрын

Lawn darts actually did kill several people.

@theintrovertedarcanist984

2 жыл бұрын

“I cast meteor swarm!” “You aren’t a wizard, you can’t do that!” “Watch and learn” *drops bricks*

@stevenroetzel4470

2 жыл бұрын

When they outlaw lawn darts, only Death Knights will have lawn darts.

@TheHEAVYDAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@garethbaus5471 i mean i don't tend to call 3 several, but it injured a ton as well.

Shad: MACHICOLATIOOOOOOOOOOONS Matt: COOOOOOONTEEEEEEEEEXT Lindy: FREEEENCHMEEEEEEEEEEN Skall: /facepalm

@HrothgarHeavenlight

6 жыл бұрын

But what ABOUT DRAGHUNZ!

@michaelt6413

6 жыл бұрын

Viewers "pommel, sword, cat, DRAGONS, Beeeeeeiiiiiiiiigggggggge"

@Cactus-pv3jz

6 жыл бұрын

Metatron: PASTAAAASSSSSSS!

@brandorgraccus6653

6 жыл бұрын

MagicMichael827 , Lyndibeige !(i don't remember how does it's spelled) Just a part of that roleplay fan crew as Shad and Skall, I donno matt

@clitcrusader4897

6 жыл бұрын

Ian: *calmly talks about some very specific armor style for 20 minutes without spewing memes*

•BALLISTAS •GREEK FIRE Shoot barrels of it through a hose and you can amplify the power of the dragon flames. •BUCKSHOT BALLS You may be able to train the dragon to hold clusters of metal cannonballs in its mouth and build up pressure to fire them. Basically this turns him into a flying shot gun. •SMOKE GRENADES You can use certain chemicals along with the dragon fire to create clouds for the dragon to use as cover. •BALL AND CHAIN Basically attached to the dragon so that when he flies closer to the ground you can drop it and he can drag it through clusters of enemies.

@cynicalnews963

4 жыл бұрын

SHOTGUN DRAGON SHOTGUN DRAGON HERE TO SHOTGUN ALL THE CASTLES TO DEATH

@skylark7921

3 жыл бұрын

I’M A DRAGON WITH A SHOTGUN

@synthemagician4686

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm, a barrage of Greek fire bombs?

My answer: hand grenades. If you are sticking to strictly medieval (not rainessance)? If dragons are big enough, mount a ballista

@Shaun_Jones

4 жыл бұрын

Putting gunpowder in a clay pot and throwing it at people is medieval

@Mekalor

4 жыл бұрын

Gunpowder was discovered around the 9th century in China. Bombs made with gunpowder were used in the following centuries. The mongols helped spread gunpowder (and related weapons) to Europe. They certainly qualify as medieval weapons, though it should be noted, their efficacy was less than that of bombs of later periods. They would be debilitating in close proximity, a dragon bombing run would shatter an enemy army's fighting capacity, leaving them weakened and disoriented while the other side capitalizes on the chaos.

@l0remipsum991

4 жыл бұрын

reloading the mounted ballista isn't an easy task though

@zachnerdydude6605

4 жыл бұрын

"I call my dragon war wolf" "Where did the name come fro- OH MY GOD YOU PUT A TREBUCHE ON A DRAGON?!?!?! HOW?!?!?!"

@galvatk2194

4 жыл бұрын

Could be useful against other dragons

The best dragonriders are mages. The mage can actually do something while on the beasts back, and the dragon counters the typical mage weakness of being squishy.

@tomc.5704

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Of course, what's better than a mage shooting lightning? A mage guiding the flechettes with pinpoint accuracy.

@valentinaamarento2523

6 жыл бұрын

Could really be something. Not only just offensive magic from the mage, but also defensive magic to protect the dragon (or it's weak parts, say the eyes or something), or to block certain attacks the dragon can't block (say for example other mages and their magic)

@magnusanderson6681

6 жыл бұрын

Nathaniel Jernigan Then again I like to think of dragons as rediculously powerful sorcerers, which sort of makes any puny magelings not worth much on their back.

@joelsasmad

6 жыл бұрын

Magnus Anderson Multiple mages working together to cast powerful spells they otherwise couldn't. Or maybe something where there is diffrent types of magic usable by dragons or humans or they can bolster each other's power. Or maybe something as simple the dragon specializing in offemssive magic while the human could use defensive and utility spells.

@theapexsurvivor9538

6 жыл бұрын

Joel Sasmad Mage focusing on illusion magic to corral the enemy and hide the dragon, the dragon focusing on AOE magic and breath attacks...

The ending reminded me of the centaur video. "Rider(s)? Nah, they're more like a automatic turret(s) I carry on my back while I do my own thing."

In the "Temeraire" series, by Naomi Novik, dragons, depending on their size, have at least 6, to well over a dozen, crew who, this being set in the Napoleonic Era, are armed with muskets and the like, as well as black powder bombs, and that's even if the dragon doesn't have some sort of fire/acid/other breath weapon. Then, the "Dragon Jousters" series, by Mercedes Lackey, they seem to be just a bit bigger than a horse, going by artwork, and they don't have breath powers, so a lance/spear tends to be a main weapon, as swords and clubs are too short. As for bow and arrows, as well as other missile weapons, due to the half-wild nature of the creatures, who tend to be captured when young, said creatures tend to snap at them like birds do insects, but those raised from the egg can be trained to tolerate some things, like light javelins and sling stones, as well as arrows, but this takes more cooperation between dragon and rider than usual, and the half-wild ones don't like to cooperate any more than they have to.

@jaumeblanco5632

3 жыл бұрын

This two sound really cool. I will add them to my "to-read" list. Thank you.

@lockwoan01

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaumeblanco5632 You're welcome. Got a few other books I like reading.

@jaumeblanco5632

3 жыл бұрын

@@lockwoan01 I allways like reading recommendations.

@lockwoan01

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaumeblanco5632 Another series I've enjoyed is "The Dragon Knight" series by Gordon R. Dickson - late 20th century man ends up in an alternative 14th century that has magic, talking wolves, Dark Powers, and DRAGONS! As it is, he finds himself stuck in the body of one, initially. After getting his body back, he soon finds himself with magic, the ability to turn into a dragon, oh, and due to a prior lie, folks believe him to be a Knight. Also recently, took up reading a series called "Spells, Swords, & Stealth" by Drew Hayes. Basically, got an RPG going on, where 4 PCs enter a tavern - Paladin, Rogue, Wizard, Barbarian - order a drink, and fail the Constitution Save. While 4 players roll up new characters, in the Tavern, those guys are really dead, and four locals pretend to be them, in an attempt to save their town, and mind you, they are actually just some NPCs.

@justinbell7497

2 жыл бұрын

What's also kinda neat about the Temeraire series, is that the "captain" and "Crew" do have and use blades to repel boarders...

His Majesty's Dragon is a great book that shows some creative and honestly pretty cool ways of utilizing dragons.

Typically in the lore for dragon riders is that the dragon and rider are bonded and the dragon doesn't really trust other people too often so that's probably why they don't put more people on the dragons. And now that I look at it a dragon rider using a sword while riding the dragon is kind of stupid lol so you made a pretty valid point lol

@kevinnorwood8782

6 жыл бұрын

Drako 6101 That’s exactly the case in Eragon, the Drakengard videogames, and in the video game “Lair”. But in the first two examples, the bond gets taken even further, because if one (Dragon or Rider) dies, so does the other.

@seanrea550

6 жыл бұрын

Drako 6101 the only use for a sword would be as a side arm. The rider is not always mounted. Though depending on the size of the dragon some mounted type weapons may work if attatched to the saddle.

@globin3477

6 жыл бұрын

in addition, not all dragons may be big enough to carry multiple people and a bag of flechettes.

@murlockingdrako4371

6 жыл бұрын

Gabriel Drake I honestly loved the Eragon series and the drakengard video games. Although if the dragon dies in terms of the Eragon series the rider lives but in drakengard of one dies the other does as well because they end up basically sharing a soul

@murlockingdrako4371

6 жыл бұрын

Globin347 exactly. Even big dragons have their limits though

3:10 "...small elephant kind of sized..." ok, now you have to do a video on properly outfitting a war elephant!

@TheNodrokov

6 жыл бұрын

I mean I'm not a historian, but I'm pretty sure the proper way to outfit a war elephant is to stick as many archers on top of it as possible.

@pRahvi0

6 жыл бұрын

Spears were used too, as far as I know.

@tabithahiggins5075

6 жыл бұрын

On the first read-through of your comment, I was sure said "a small elephant kind of SNEEZED," and I was trying to remember where in the vid he talked about sneezing elephants. But what about sneezing elephants?!!

@stormcrowlegendary3512

6 жыл бұрын

That actually happened. I wanna see Mammoths.

@Broockle

5 жыл бұрын

Put a Thagomizer on the Elephant's Trunk xD

"Snappy Snappy" is my new favorite word for mouth.

- What's your weapon? - A verb. *Dracarys*

@timawaviking526

5 жыл бұрын

Where'd that smell come from? We don't even have any pigs here!

@kagenekoUA

5 жыл бұрын

@@timawaviking526 I have heard that some cannibals name humans' meat a "long pork".

@alexanderthegreat6682

3 жыл бұрын

@@kagenekoUA from who? Asking 'cause I'm scared

@HowlingWolf518

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderthegreat6682 They asked a bunch of cannibals what we tasted like back in the 19th; apparently, it's pork.

if Dragon exist then very likely magic too, so of course, a flying magic turret of doom is the obvious answer!

@panic5306

5 жыл бұрын

Or if you can't get magic maybe even crossbows? Small powerful bows eh?

@a_newcomer9403

5 жыл бұрын

Heal the dragon if it gets hurt, launch fireballs and what not.

@imperiousrex128

5 жыл бұрын

No magic? Bow. Or maybe a dragon-mounted ballista.

@SysterYster

5 жыл бұрын

Then you add a mage on the dragon and you have a fire ball throwing, fire breathing turret of doom! :D

@SysterYster

5 жыл бұрын

@@imperiousrex128 That's a great idea! :O

Each time I see an episode in this series I always put notes down in my D&D Idea notebook

@grayscribe2125

6 жыл бұрын

D&D? As I mentioned, polymorph the dragon into a bird. Change back above the party and have the dragon drop a few dozen thunderstones, tanglefoot bags or alchemical fire and down the drain go most of the plans the group had. As for polymorphing? I had my group believe for a while that they were working for/with an adult silver dragon only to find out thst it was a polymorphed red dragon that was a great wyrm on top of it.

One thing I want to point out, in my favorite "Dragon Rider" series Eragon (the books) He very rarely even attempts to fight with his sword while on his dragon. He mostly uses ranged magic, and even then only really rides her for battlefield re-positioning. It is depicted several times as him fighting along side his dragon on the ground, acting as small arms defense, and his bastard sword is a really good choice in that context

@hmmmhm3185

10 ай бұрын

definitely a good example. and I like that book too

I've already incorporated a few of those tactics into my book! It was nice to see them confirmed. All my riders are archer and I have two-three per dragon. Thanks for making this video.

@MrMarinus18

4 жыл бұрын

A big thing also is control. A dragon is a flying creature so that means you essentially have 4 axis of control; roll, pitch, yaw and speed.

@zachnerdydude6605

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrMarinus18 and death

@gia257

3 жыл бұрын

just give the dragon a bow

@ckl9390

3 жыл бұрын

@@gia257 Depending on the intelligence, independence, and dexterity factors of the dragon it may work. The dragon would probably require forward limbs to use the bow, so the type that just have rear legs and wings may not work.

@andrewjessop6054

2 жыл бұрын

@@ckl9390 Those are called Wyverns

Dragons are fantasy WMDs adding any human weapons to them is like putting a bayonet on a main battle tank.

@viktorvlasov483

5 жыл бұрын

I mean 50 cal on the top wouldn't hurt any tank though

@carlosandleon

5 жыл бұрын

now i want to put a bayonet on a tank turret

@slippytrippy8122

5 жыл бұрын

Lol nice

@fizzlewick

4 жыл бұрын

Unless it is magic bayonet that can cut trough tanks

@pedroivantaveraferreira3037

4 жыл бұрын

@Kevin Warburton The repercussions of early aerial combat in fantasy worlds ... this would be nice. War was "2d" until WW1, how different would societies be if attacks from the sky were possible since, basically, the Bronze Age (appearance of the first cavalries)

More people on the back of a dragon? Just look at the Temeraire series. Dragons in the Napoleonic war era. And it was the Romans who first tamed dragons and used them for war. With archers on their backs... :p

@NapoleonCalland

5 жыл бұрын

In French, "dragon" is the word that became "dragoon" in English. "Dragons in the Napoleonic era" conjures up some pretty amazing images of green-coated French soldiers wearing Grecian-style helmets (with a horse hair crest and panther skin band around the helmet), shooting at enemy forces from a howdah* on their dragon's back. Including one particularly prominent regiment, the dragoons of the Imperial Guard, or "les Dragons de l'Impératrice" (whose patroness was the Empress, as their name suggests). www.pinterest.fr/pin/827747606481683448/ Anyone familiar with the zoologist Saint-Hilaire has to wonder what he'd make of taking care of dragon eggs and hatchlings at the Jardin des Plantes (all the more since Napoleon creates the BSPP, as the first proper "modern" firefighting service, in 1811). And what about the draconic equivalents of the horse rearing farms created by the Emperor? ;) NOTE *The Emperor planned a fountain that was to stand in the centre of the square where the Bastille once stood. The centrepiece was to be a colossal elephant with a historically accurate howdah on the elephant's back that people would actually be able to climb into, and look out across the city. It seems to me that if you were to take Shad's idea of putting several riders on one dragon, you'd use a similar technique and make as aerodynamic a tower or turret as possible, to allow a platoon of riders to shower a hail of death behind, under, and in front of the dragon (I ruled out the sides because you wouldn't want to risk hitting the wings). 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝

@NathanielSimpson1481

5 жыл бұрын

Boarding actions and similar do make it feel much more like "if dragons then...." rather than use of tropes

@atlantahunter4401

5 жыл бұрын

The Romans were only the 1st European civilization to use them. China's relationship with dragons is both significantly different and significantly older. We don't know how long Native Americans had been training them but it was long enough that the dragons were so superior Europe couldn't conquer any of the new world.

@MoeHasubandoAbsolver

5 жыл бұрын

Nobody's mentioning that dragonriders in this series had whole crews attached to the saddles of the dragons via carabiner. These crews were trained in boarding actions against ships as well as other dragons. Though, arrows aren't really that useful in such few number and from such great a distance, and as such dragonriding archer crews wouldn't really be that effective unless they were absolute expert shots. Edit: Dragonriding crews were mostly concerned with the defense of the dragon's blind spots, caring for it's wounds, and occasionally boarding an enemy or defending against an enemy boarding attempt.

Start of the video... me thinking: Javelins P.S.: Oil? When the dragon sweeps with it's breath ... waaaaait The Chinese had black powder >:))

@koi1762

4 жыл бұрын

ha, this reminds me of this one mythical Chinese battle, where the general order to cover an entire valley with explosives, and then lead the enemy into it, and blew it up, hmmm the battle of Shang Fang Gu I think.

@prinzeszelda3650

3 жыл бұрын

Javelins is good because you can Store alot of them on the Dragon saddle

@frosticle6409

3 жыл бұрын

Against Meng huo's reinforcements?

Me and the boys dropping WW1 technology from a dragon to take back the holy land

yes but WHAT ABOUT THE....oh wait

@Noone-rc9wf

6 жыл бұрын

jakob farrell ...DDDDDDDDDDRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGOOOOOONNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!

@antcommander1367

6 жыл бұрын

Treefolk? Titans? Onis? Dryads? Trolls?

@madness8897

6 жыл бұрын

demigods?

@tarmairon431

6 жыл бұрын

But what about the droid attack on the Wookies?

@marsar1775

5 жыл бұрын

@@tarmairon431 hes right, its not a system we cant afford to lose

"Dragons can carry exceptionally heavy loads on their backs." ATTACH A TREBUCHET TO THE DRAGON

@vicount3944

6 жыл бұрын

poor dragon

The Temeraire series have whole squads fighting on the dragoons, kind of like what you describe here. The setting though, is a little more advance, in the era of Napoleonic wars.

139 people are Inheritance Cycle fans refusing to acknowledge the framed frame from 0:46-1:11. Also, that's a nice black screen you have there from 5:36-5:45...

@usaball9190

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, no matter how enchanted or warded your sword is, it is pretty much useless on the back of a dragon unless you are fighting another dragon rider.

@MrEcoho

4 жыл бұрын

@@usaball9190 the thing is dragon riders were not supposed to battle on their dragons unless they were fighting a flying opponent in the series, their weapons were more for when they were not on their dragons as most had bows made by the elves, were masters of magic, and oh yeah had a giant fucking dragon under them.

@jonathanstuber0402

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrEcoho Exactly what I was gonna say. Though I do have some gripes about the series, especially certain parts of the final novel, the fact that the dragonriders almost always had bows and were all powerful mages makes them powerful weapons in their own right even from the backs of their dragons.

@MrEcoho

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanstuber0402 lol yeah the final book was kind of meh at the end.

@jonathanstuber0402

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrEcoho Yeah, definitely. Still love the series as a whole, but the way it wrapped up just didn't really satisfy.

Keep em coming. Im building a d&d world around these ideas.

@KheptlaxaXonu

6 жыл бұрын

reachcole I've been trying to incorporate these videos in my campaigns as well. I love this series.

@andresarancio6696

6 жыл бұрын

Same! The fairy episode and this one in particular is massive food for roleplaying campaigns

@shuriken188

6 жыл бұрын

Andres Arancio I made a comment on the fairy video about this, but you should include anti-fairy weaponry and armour in your game. Flyswatters, shortened whips and scourges with many ropes instead of one, primitive hand grenades, etc. would all be effective against fairies. For armour, consider fine chain mail or even limited glass seeing as fairies just wouldn't have the inertia to shatter small windows on helmets.

@andresarancio6696

6 жыл бұрын

J. Villeneuve In some form yeah, the issue is particulary due to the setting having the whole "society still fears too much 'magical' creatures that they have not systematically found ways to deal with them" plot device. But of course some form of anti fairy tech will be designed, cannot let players die one too many times of sudden throat slashing.

@shadowofsteel

6 жыл бұрын

Sounds like something I'd want to play

What about DRAGONS, Shad?! You think dragons are just vehicles for people? Dragons are people too! What weapons would the DRAGONS use?!

@ThunderClawShocktrix

6 жыл бұрын

First of all see the weapons to use against dragons clearly dragons would use 'anti dragon' weapons against other dragons, second look at the ones for angels and demons for weapns against gorund forces, also of coruse, NAplam, or lice or acid or lightning or what ever breath wepaon to the face

@andrasbiro3007

6 жыл бұрын

Dragon fire.

@justinthompson6364

6 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised anyone took me seriously. But my money is on large, brittle boulders dropped from a great height (to fragment and throw shrapnel everywhere) and some kind of contraption that lets them launch a projectile by the strength of their flight muscles, which as per the square-cube law must be insanely strong.

@justinthompson6364

6 жыл бұрын

ThuderClawShocktrix While what you say is certainly true, I think it's a tad narrow minded. The winged humanoid weapons wouldn't take much advantage of the greater size of a dragon, and depending on the specifics of your dragon some weapons might need to be heavily modified and even unusable. KingLouie TheAwesome (Great name by the way) I'm not sure about rocket-propelled arrows-- the aerodynamics are sure to be funny and it could be tough igniting the rocket without damaging the launcher-- but I like the idea of poison since killing a creature of such great size by impact force alone would be difficult. And to all who say dragons don't need weapons, I refute thee thus! While a dragons natural weapons are formidable, perhaps making others unnecessary, weapons are unnecessary for humans as well; it is entirely possible to kill with one's bare hands. Arming humans, however gives them a more favorable kill ratio, and with the right weapons, that is probably true of any intelligent being.

@dndhat

6 жыл бұрын

As established by the centaur episode, a human armed with pointy sticks can count as a weapon. So the preferred weapon of dragons is... a guy with a crossbow.

i wonder if pots of oil would be effective since it would compliment the dragons fire breathing abilities in that it would provide a guaranteed fuel for the dragon to burn

@LightMindedJedi

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm maybe, given the right circumstances.

in the series of Temeraire, they had firing squads in harnesses on the underside of the dragon - napoleonic wars with dragons - i highly recommend it :D

Dragon riders with swords are in my opinion the same as a noble on a horse. Something to keep the soldiers moral high. So instead of a flying fire breathing noble steed, you say a make a gunship.

@marsar1775

6 жыл бұрын

are you criticising the ac130

@frking100

6 жыл бұрын

Well in settings with magic a wizard or magician even if a low level one is a weapon of mass destruction when atop a dragon since he is very well defended from any of the usual battlefield haphazards and can cover the dragons biggest weakness which is it back and underbelly since it is often said that the underbelly is the less armored area of the dragon a wizard could provide covering fire and the back is also exposed beacause the dragon needs the tail to fly and cant defend his rear side. As for swords if the dragon is big enough someone crazy enough might attempt to hijack the dragon and kill the rider hoping to either wound the dragon or drive it away from a batle. This actually happened during a civil war in the game of thrones universe where one dragon rider leapt into the other dragon and dueled the rider atop his dragon which caused the dragon to crash and kill the dragon and both riders.

@lastword8783

6 жыл бұрын

a cavalryman with a sword is an actual thing though. horseman did use swords.

@GIAP11977

6 жыл бұрын

JohnSmith FakeName: on the battlefeild a noble may make the foot troops a little more willing to fight; but nothing raises makes solders more ready to fight then air supiriority

@justinthompson6364

6 жыл бұрын

Air superiority would definitely help my morale.

You should read the temeraire book series by Naomi Novik as it is set in the napoleonic wars and it has the dragons serving as an airforce for the different nations. Depending on the size of the dragon they are used for different things. Small dragons are used as curriers or scouts while carrying only their rider but midsize and large dragons have crews who are armed with rifles, bombs, swords and pistols for both boarding and counter boarding actions. There is more to it but it fits you points here very well and I really think you would enjoy the series.

@TheKotor2309

6 жыл бұрын

NightHunter571 thank you for the recommendation 🍻

@reviewrattlesnake

6 жыл бұрын

Great Series! currently on the 4th book :D

Actually I can't believe I've never seen a dragon with a whole squad of people on it before. It's so obvious now that the idea is there.

@victormillen8393

4 жыл бұрын

Take a look at Temeraire, a novel series that incorporated dragons into WWI. Dragons are treated as aircraft's, with a whole crew, both on ground and boarding, dedicated to each beast. The crew riding the dragon will take care of its wounds, defend blindspots and enemy bording, drop bombs and attempt to board the enemy dragon.

@Myuutsuu85

3 жыл бұрын

@@victormillen8393 well, Napoleonic Wars not WW1, but otherwise you are right.

@victormillen8393

3 жыл бұрын

@@Myuutsuu85 oh damn I remembered it wrong. Thanks for correcting me tho

@SakuragiSayo

Жыл бұрын

The reason for that is because Dragons are very stubborn/prideful creatures, they dislike even one person riding on their back, unless that one person was the first creature the Dragon saw when it hatched. Also because most Dragon riders depicted in fantasy are evil, so they hog all that power for themself and force their minions to either march/walk on foot, or ride lesser creatures such as horses.

In the Temeraire series, most dragons have crews; with single rider dragons being used as couriers dragons. Bigger would be ideal for troop transport or logistics while medium size could have musket crews. Using their immense strength to topple trees which you could use to build or enhance your defense.

But what weapons would the dragon itself use??? JK. I just wanted a chance to say BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS???

@Noone-rc9wf

6 жыл бұрын

The HackingBurger _W H A T A B O U T D R A G O N S?!_

@globin3477

6 жыл бұрын

if the dragon has hands, it could hold a spear and fly at a powerful target, releasing the spear and flying up before the hit- the result would be similar to that of a ballista, I imagine, especially if the spear had guiding flachettes like an arrow.

@tomimakirinne

6 жыл бұрын

But... But... But why would a dragon even need a weapon? I mean it's a goddamn dragon! xD

@globin3477

6 жыл бұрын

You're probably not.

@chaosvolt

6 жыл бұрын

But this needs answering anyway.

So kinda like in the Temeraire novels then? They are set in the Napoleon wars, but with dragons, as air forces. What they did there, is that they attached a network of ropes to the dragon, which a whole crew of people then attached themselves to using hooks and such, and then they would fight using rifles, bombs etc. They would also "board" enemy dragons and fight the crew in melee combat, with the main target being the captain, whom the dragon was usually very attached to, and so could be used as a hostage to capture the dragon and it's crew.

@jakeasmah8953

6 жыл бұрын

Ohhh I read a book from that. It was decent writing but good use of dragons.

@shadowgear7032

6 жыл бұрын

Yes I love the series. Also cannons mounted on dragons. Aka the main dragon and his roar thing with cannons on top of it

@WendigoMetalwolf

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for tip, I really need to read that based on this alone.

You should read the Temeraire series by Naomi Novik it deals with non-magical dragon combat in exactly the way you describe

In the book series "Temeraire" you get a great inside about the more modern armament of dragons. Because ranged weapons will definetly be useful and the muskets are a useful tool. And it also explores the Idea Shad mentioned of a complete platoon of people on board a dragon, armed with muskets and bombs

Your "crew" idea has been done in Naomi Novik's Temeraire series of books, set in an alternate timeline Napoleonic War period. Soldiers are strapped to a harness on the dragon and mostly use rifles to shoot at other dragons and IIRc they drop grenades too.

@welkinvolg9619

6 жыл бұрын

Is it good?

@richardbug3094

6 жыл бұрын

not really, i read it and it wasnt anything special, TBH it was quite disappointment, a wasted opportunity.

@itsgorani9133

6 жыл бұрын

The first one is kind of interesting, because the concept of how the dragons are used as an air force. Sadly, the characters are pretty card board and the author can't decide what dragons can or can't do. It turns into a pretty mess (IMO) with the later books (which I only read because I got it as a super cheap Kindle bundle). Read the first book, if you are intrigued, but don't continue if you are not "on fire" by the end of it. It will not get better.

@SonsOfLorgar

6 жыл бұрын

Welkin Volg I loved the series.

@littlegrimmy-3381

6 жыл бұрын

The mid-air battles between dragon riding squads were an interesting concept, throwing hooks and lines to connect to an opponent and swinging across like you would capture an enemy ship in the era, but with dragons in mid air.

Finally, we're hearing the answer to the age old question: "What about dragons?" Well done, Shad. Well done.

@kmeanxneth

6 жыл бұрын

but What about dragons?

the rider should really only be there for coordinating with the dragon (keeping it under reins if its an animal) or providing tactical information to said dragon and others in a given battle (if is a large battle). Otherwise the only two weapons would be some kind of ranged weapon or magic. at most melee weapons could be used by a rider if something else tried to climb on it, dragons i'd imagine would be vulnrable on their back so having like an anti boarding rider would be beneficial while the dragon deals with main threats elsewhere

The Temeraire book series by Naomi Novik has the best mounted dragon combat. Entire crews of musket wielding soldiers as well as bombs that would be dropped over targets.

whats more dangerous then a dragon.... two dragons of course lash em togther wait... no i was so blind not to see it... its so simple thanks pope francis l.... lash All of the dragons together build some proper matriculations on... yes my fifteen dragon mobile fortress is COMPLETED!!!!!!!!!!

@shardinhand1243

6 жыл бұрын

:3 not bad but... what about a dragon that breathed little dragons instead of fire....

@D.A.R.C.I.

6 жыл бұрын

i.pinimg.com/736x/5f/cf/e6/5fcfe6114ad4d2b58a0042b694ec8946--dentists-dragon.jpg Ahem, yes that is a dragon

@shardinhand1243

6 жыл бұрын

^^; was denied when i tried your link man idk why

@TheTwilitHero

6 жыл бұрын

+The Virus What's that from? Looks an anime version of xenoblade chronicles 2.

@D.A.R.C.I.

6 жыл бұрын

TheTwilitHero kid you not, its from an anime called The Dragon's Dentist. Its really good i love the soundtrack

BUT SHAD! WHAT ABOUT SMALLER DRAGONS ON DRAGONS! (or crossbows)

@Myuutsuu85

3 жыл бұрын

Now I image the dragon to act like an aircraft carrier for the smaller ones, who are more nimble and swift, but lack the big guys (or gals) stamina.

*Imagines Mongols with their bows flying dragons* Good god...

I expected bows to turn up as the best, but now I just picture like 4 -8 people on a dragon with some big buckets of nails just sitting there, strapped down grabbing handfuls and just yeeting them out. Truly a spectacle.

Nothing beats the satifying moment of having a weapon idea (in my case flechettes) and then seeing it come up in the video (8:11). Keep up the good work!

So what you're saying is that the best way to utilize dragon riders is to make them the fantasy equivalent of World War Two bomber crews! That is one of those things that become more awesome the more you think about it.

@maxmustermann1455

6 жыл бұрын

there is nothing awesome about allied bomber crews. My grandparents do not approve.

@paulscott88

6 жыл бұрын

Harry Turtledove does end up using his dragons as bombers, Levithans as submarines, Sacrificial magic as concentration camps, mages as machine guns, and similar in his "Into Darkness" series... Pretty much alternate history of WWII, does the same thing with WWII being interrupted by an incompetent alien invasion as well, and a few others.

@scottmichael3902

6 жыл бұрын

This is Eragon to tail gunner..Shade at 9 o'clock low

@SimuLord

6 жыл бұрын

Now I want a game like Bomber Crew but with dragons.

I love this video with all my heart! I'd like to just add a few things that could be considered when writing about dragons and riders. 1. Melee weapons could be carried by the rider only in the anticipation of dismounting at some point (if dragon is bigger than horse/elephant). 2. In addition to the flechette, I always see medieval fantasy worlds with some kind of mixed technology or magic, so another ranged weapon could be akin to an incendiary bomb/grenade that could be dropped on formations when the dragon flies upward and out of reach. 3. The single dragon rider stereotype seems to stem from a particular bond between dragon and rider, or in other scenarios where it takes way too much practice for a bunch of other guys to learn how to hold on to an organic, spiky, flappy machine, or there's no safe way to hang on past 2 or 3 riders. Again, it all totally depends on the design of your dragon. You could very well design a turret tower in the sky! 4. Rocks, boiling oil, tar, bolas, etc. If you can cap it and hold it, you can drop it!

He'd love his "majesty's dragon"

So, Dragons would be firebreathing, flying war-elephants? Yeah, seems logical to me.

To anyone who wants to read a creative setting with dragon riders check out the "Temeraire" series. It set during the Napoleonic wars, so its guns and muskets and no magic. One of the things I love about it is that Naomi Novik obviously spent a lot of time thinking about this very question, she even asks questions mostly overlooked like "What are the Dragon's rights in different nations? are they treated like slaves? are they citizens with equal rights? would dragons rule over the humans?"

With all honesty, the only thing a dragon would need a rider for is to fight other dragons / dragon riders. So the best weapon for a dragon rider becomes the best weapon against the dragon. And that is balista. Yeah, definately, the only thing better then a dragon could be a dragon with a balista on it's back.

This was a really fun video to watch. I'm writing a fantasy novel where wyvern rider tribes are present. Their tradition is two riders per one wyvern, one rider with a bow to cover the back 180 degrees, the other with a lance or javelin/javelin set to cover the front diagonals, while the wyvern takes out anyone directly in front with its maw or fire/lightning breath. What a great video! It's cool to see I'm not the only one who thought about the issues of this concept.

@OtachiKaiju68

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty interesting :p

Merry Christmas shad

@INeosIRex

6 жыл бұрын

BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS?!?

@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874

6 жыл бұрын

BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS?!

@oweq-ds2lg

6 жыл бұрын

But what about oh im to late

@JonyTony2018

6 жыл бұрын

INeosIRex WHAT ABOUT CHRISTMAS?!

They shouldn't be using flechettes... but pommels, so that they can finish their targets rightly ! But still... what about dragons...

@globin3477

6 жыл бұрын

dragon-shaped pommels

@Arviragus13

6 жыл бұрын

What if it's a pommel breathing dragon?

@alucarderipmavtube

6 жыл бұрын

The Fat Man was a pommel. Musta have had a collossal sword, but that probably explains the destruction...

Somebody else already said this, but to signal boost...Shad, you’d love the Temeraire series!!

Finally watching all of these and I think this has to be my favorite solution so far!

I'm only at 7:30-ish, but it's sounding like Naomi Novik got things right in having her dragons act like organic airships complete with crews... EDIT: aaand just finished, so in short, go read the Temeraire novels, and bring the tech level down from the Napoleonic era.

@MobiusN7

6 жыл бұрын

That still means meele weapons are needed to counter the boarding parties

@Riceball01

6 жыл бұрын

I was going to mention Temeraire novels but you beat me to it.

@Madsteel3

6 жыл бұрын

Dragons there were more or less treated as flying platforms with anything from half a dozen to a score musketeers strapped on the surface, were they not? Even on their own dragons were awesome and terrifying in those books. Tearing ships apart in melee, burning ships, spitting acids and gunk at them, or in one case just shouting things to bits, now I think about it, ships really got the short stick in that setting.. At least I don't remember the author putting a cannon on a dragon's back, that'd be a horror to behold. Awesome books but never got to finish the whole series.

@ameritus9041

6 жыл бұрын

Dang it, wish I had seen this video before I commented basically the same thing lul.

context... context... context... BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS?

@ThunderClawShocktrix

6 жыл бұрын

ROAR!

Should add the artists signatures under each picture since your using their work for your content.

@ckl9390

3 жыл бұрын

Not all artists put signatures on work, and a number of these were book covers that wouldn't be owned by the artist. Still, a good practice when possible to have a small note for attribution, but it may be in the description not necessarily on screen.

Thank you! You just gave me a great idea for the climax of one of my stories!

Have you ever read Temeraire? It's a book about the Anglo-French war, except that it has dragons in it. Dragons, being able to fly and really big, were weaponized and they actually large crews with fire arms and bombs. Looks like you came up with basically the same answer, just a few centuries behind!

@acedragon1456

6 жыл бұрын

I love that series!

@Wamboland

6 жыл бұрын

Yep, you're right 😀

@drizzt7dourden7

6 жыл бұрын

i was thinking the same thing throughout this video ^^

@Legolas936

6 жыл бұрын

Best series ever... if only we would get a game or mod for that ^^

@historianalex

6 жыл бұрын

Oi, fellow Temeraire fan, high five! o/*

Yeah here’s the weapons someone would use on a horse. BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS!

@u.v.s.5583

2 жыл бұрын

Flechettes on a horse? Very effective against moles.

A most excellent video as always.

For very large dragons: Put a battlement on the back of the dragon. Man it with troops, mages, and a catapult (depending on the size of the dragon). And of course, you'll need a place to drop your projectiles from. If you've seen enough of Shad's videos, you know where this is going.

Well surely, Dragon Riders would simply use their vast wealth - from the Dragon's hoard - to employ a horde of snake people and tiny fey warriors to utterly route or annihilate any mundane opposition.

@loremasterdasmodeus8285

5 жыл бұрын

THATS HORRIBLE TO THINK ABOUT, PURE NIGHTMARE FUEL!!!!

Finally man now I dont have to keep asking WHAT ABOUT THE DRAGONS?!?!

@bretonic1812

6 жыл бұрын

hmmm that is a good point but I suppose most would just assume being a dragon makes life great on its own. but ya never know

Thank you shadiversity I use a lot of your videos in my fictional stories well whenever I'm writing fantasies or role-playing stories I often come up with the question is it really practical to use a sword while you on a back of a dragon or use a spear but thanks to you you really open my eyes that using a bow is a better practical weapon I mean a dragon rider can use a sword while on the ground and in the air he can use a bow more practical are much more efficient

Shad, i recommend you to watch Dungeon siege 2:introduction the way they use the dragon in that intro is awesome. Also in that game one of the character said that he don't like dragons because he had to clean up piles of dragon poop in a cave

Dragon mounted ballista turret. I just like the visual.

@yolkonut6851

6 жыл бұрын

dragon mounted gau-8

@tothemaxx1991

6 жыл бұрын

Dragon-mounted Vulcan rotary cannon

@Tounushi

6 жыл бұрын

Remember the Filmation Flash Gordon series? The great eagles had limited-traverse turrets on their backs, operated by the riders. I'm picturing something similar.

Maybe a sword could be to defend against others (angels? harpies? Spider-Man?) from latching on to the vulnerable back of a dragon, kind of like Chief of Security aboard the USS Enterprise?

@justanoman6497

6 жыл бұрын

This, quite frankly any melee or range weapon a rider can carry will be inferior to the attack of the dragon. So as opposed to a second point of attack, a symbiotic use is far more likely to be useful.

@NurseGundam

6 жыл бұрын

Raise the Banner!

@Jonathan-js3vi

6 жыл бұрын

Singularity24601 why don't give the Dragon a Sword?

@christiannguyen1266

6 жыл бұрын

Singularity24601 in that situation of dragon to dragon combat, I think it's more plausible if it just keeps the bow and arrow. Like in. A dogfight in ww1, they don't keep to close range fighting, close range for a sword at least. The dragons would be constantly moving and it would be difficult to use a sword or a spear onto an opponent. Angel, same thing just keep the bow. Spider-Man, nothing can stop Spider-Man

@ethanhess8230

6 жыл бұрын

Or the other way around: jump onto an enemy dragon like a pirate

First off, Shad, would like to say that I really dig your videos and as a writer, I find a lot of your discussions very helpful when developing my own stories and RP story lines. So I wish to thank you for all the videos you've been doing. Now, onto what I wished to say. Some of the images that you use in this video are from a movie I really liked when it came out called Eragon. I was wondering why they never made the other two movies, because that particular story is a set of three books. So it always baffled me as to why the other two movies weren't made to complete the over all story... I love the dragon in that story and I find I got more attached to her when I seen her as a whelp hunting rats in a barn. Anyway, I just wanted to get that out there about Eragon. As far as the topic of the video, IF the dragon was large enough, in order to effectively fight other dragons and their riders, perhaps a ballista could be strapped to the dragons back. OH! And another thing, you mentioned flachettes, if it is a setting where dwarves also exist, the dwarves would use a certain type of rock where, if thrown at say a wall, this type of rock would explode. It is in the AD&D books. One of the core books, I forget if it is 3.0, 3.5 or what. But I think the stones were called Maelstones. And a lot of times what the dwarves would do is grind these stones up into powder to make a very rudimentary gun powder type of substance. What you could do is hollow out the larger flachettes and fill them with this powder and perhaps have a fuse set up or some sort of basic pressure detonator so when these things would be dropped, they would explode and send shrapnel in all directions. Anyway, just my thoughts. Take them for what they are. Again, thanks for all the videos.

@SysterYster

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. I too use a lot of his videos and discussions in my stories. :) They are all really helpful and I think, give the stories a more authentic feeling. However I have to say, Eragon is not in my opinion a very good book (or movie). Of course, you're entitled to love it to bits. :) I think it's ok, but when I read it, I remember thinking that it was obvious that it was written by a young person who was a fan of other famous fantasy stories such as Lord of the Rings. Because it was very basic and you could sort of tell who was the "Gandalf" in the story and such things. That doesn't mean it's not good, just that the author was inexperienced. However, I never read the second and third books, and I think someone told me they were better. Is that so?

@OtachiKaiju68

2 жыл бұрын

Well I think the reasons why there were no sequels was due to a lot of hate it got from the fans of the book

The series His Majesty's Dragon did a good job with this question (although it was set in the Napoleonic era and not the medieval).

Obviously you wouldn’t need a weapon at all. The dragon is the weapon. You only need weapons if your dragon is killed. A sorcerer would be the best dragon rider.

@peterjumper881

6 жыл бұрын

Range weapons [bows to shoot other dragon riders or magic if its available] could be useful for covering angles the dragon can't easily cover. How much a dragon's neck can turn varies from work to work, as well as how fast it can turn around, but in the cases of slow turning/not being able to move the neck much, having someone who can launch attacks BEHIND the dragon might be useful.

@ascii_9727

6 жыл бұрын

Have you watched the whole video?

@ethanhess8230

6 жыл бұрын

Do dragons even need riders? It would probably be easier to train a dragon to just go nuts on your enemy than to train it to be a mount

@dogdog2257

5 жыл бұрын

Light weight Crossbows and a shield Or light bow and a heavy Crossbow for against other dragons and A shield

@orionwalker5462

5 жыл бұрын

@@ethanhess8230 I think the whole point of riders were to drive the dragon, like with reins I guess or to command it.

Bought a Dragon-shirt some months ago. Quite satisfied, although people keep asking what band it is...

@daddyleon

6 жыл бұрын

why is that an "although people keep asking", wouldn't "people even keep asking".?

@HeyimKite

6 жыл бұрын

Because people think it's a band... And it's not a band... And it's annoying... : ^)

This intro had me dieing, well deserved like good sir. Amazing vid

Your videos are a bane to my players in d&d but it gets them to think of new solutions thanks shad

Come on Shad, I have a hard enough time fighting them in my dreams; now I have to summon an elven army with mithril bows and enchanted ballistas just to stand a chance 🤔 Lucid dreaming is difficult enough...lol

@stuchly1

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Barendregt speaking of which, a large dragon may be large enough to support a ballista on its back. XD

@TheKotor2309

6 жыл бұрын

Petr Stuchlý then my only hope is building an underground fortress 🍻 lol

@elcommento

6 жыл бұрын

Petr Stuchlý trebuchet is clearly the superior choice of siege engine

@Gzaerix

6 жыл бұрын

A trebuchet would be terrible on a dragon's back.

@Arkoudiarix

6 жыл бұрын

Are you in such LD level that you can summon things like that ?

Context. CONTEXT! COOOOOOOOONTEXT!!! . . . . . - So where is this person that was supposed to appear and talk about swo... *sudden teleportation behind* Oh my world!

@TheRealmDrifter

6 жыл бұрын

You said context twice and conext once.

@harrisonmcarthur7816

6 жыл бұрын

He warned you...

@IZokoraI

6 жыл бұрын

Ravenous While you were writing context three times Matt was occupied, because I tried it a few seconds earlier. He was very kind to give me an officer jacked and now I am the guy who looks sexy as fuck.

@PLScypion

6 жыл бұрын

Ooops. You are right. Fixed it.

Soooo... basicly turning a dragon into a mideval equvilant of an AC 130 Spectre gunship.

I like the Nameless King boss in Dark souls 3. He rides a dragon and seems perfectly armed to do so. He used a massive sword-spear. But he was pretty big too.

@spacemegalodon5049

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah but most of the attacks is the storm drake moving closer to you so that he can hit you with the sword spear. The one attack that his strategy does make sense is the dive attack after he throws lightning. To but honest he should just stay in the air and throw lightning while the drake breathes fire.

Me: "Context Context Context!!!" scholagladiatoria: Hi folks Matt Easton here Schola Glatiatoria!" Me: " Ahh!!"

@KainusGulch

6 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Scholagladiatoria. As some of you may know I've been on a stint about Wootz recently. I've been testing a number of my swords from my collection with .....

@strategicgamingwithaacorns2874

6 жыл бұрын

"Hi folks Matt Easton here from Schola Gladiatora!" "BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS?!"

@MythicalHex

6 жыл бұрын

is this the new airline food or something?

I always felt that a dragon rider's weapon is used primarily when there NOT on there dragon because lets face it the're not always going to be on the dragon. Calvary men where not always on there horses because well. You can't exactly ride a horse in a castle hallway now can you?

@williamjenkins4913

6 жыл бұрын

Like fantasy paratroopers. Get dropped behind enemy lines and take strategic objectives while your dragons are flying about delaying and distracting.

@NurseGundam

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, but probably should keep it sheathed during flight.

@stormcrowlegendary3512

6 жыл бұрын

The sword or lance could be for killing giant spiders.

@Egregius

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. And from the perspective of a dragon-cavalry man, a weapon that's easily sheathed for self-dense, or offense when dismounting, is paramount. So a sword after all.

They should use a special weapon called "Dracarys".It's very effective!

@InventorZahran

5 жыл бұрын

But what about dragons that don't understand that language?

@luisalvarezislas9975

3 жыл бұрын

or build Ancalagon The Black and could swallow Balerion whole.

@u.v.s.5583

2 жыл бұрын

But what when you dismount that dragon and mount a friend? What about daggers?

Autumn twilight was my first one as well . Love that book series

Temeraire, from Naomi Novik, is doing an absolutely wonderful job at re-imagining napeloanian-era warfare with dragons. It is an excellent read for any person interested in realistic fantasy warfare, strongly recommended.

@patrickmcgonigal2175

6 жыл бұрын

Dynahazzar I was going to mention this but you beat me to it. Well done. I haven't read the latest book yet though.

@britneyprice6568

6 жыл бұрын

I was going to suggest this too!

@adambirch6466

6 жыл бұрын

Came here to say this. That series is incredible. Anybody who enjoyed this video should certainly pick up that series.

@Joshua-yf5mh

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you kind person for mentioning my favorite series and how i generally view dragons now.

@MrCantStopTheRobot

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

:3 i know still not as terrifying as fairys ^^ lol

@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115

6 жыл бұрын

That gave me nightmares...

@benthomason3307

6 жыл бұрын

"KEEP. THE DRAGON. LIT."

@commode7x

6 жыл бұрын

What if you put a whole bunch of fairies on the dragon?

@pietandersen6120

6 жыл бұрын

shardinhand Well a fly swatter cant protect you from a dragon.

@Shadiversity Check out the historical fantasy series Temeraire - Its a series set in the Napolean Era and they use dragons just like this, but they have guns. They strap Nets to the belly and sides and have people hang off the dragon, its also a great series!

I always thought that the reason why dragon riders wield swords is to defend themselves if another dragon rider jumped on their dragon......

Will you do Argonian Maids next?

@portsouth

6 жыл бұрын

I think they’d have a spear to polish

@Windrake101

6 жыл бұрын

I'd love to hear about how to ride them!

Would it not reduce mobility / maneuverability if the dragon was made into a flying weapons platform? Unlike elephants dragons maneuver in three dimensions, a sudden evasive action could easily lead to crew members falling off or dropping their weapons, unless it restrained itself from moving in certain ways, which in turn results in it becoming a much easier target.

@maidenreligion12

6 жыл бұрын

In this case, one would assume all crew members would be attached to the dragon somehow, not just the main rider. Rope would be the simplest option, but maybe the 'saddle' would be extended to allow multiple people to attach. Having a platform of some kind would greatly hinder maneuverability and speed, but when you think about how large a dragon would have to be to support the weight of one, their wingspan would be too big and make it nearly impossible to shoot from any angle unless they're along the neck or near the base of the tail, making the cons outweigh any pro. As for losing weapons/ammunition, I'm sure in a world where dragonriding is common, they would've devised ways to minimize it as much as possible.

@patrickkeller2193

6 жыл бұрын

The Temeraire series explores this topic quite nicely. There the dragons are covered in nets and their crew use something akin to climbing gear.

@WhatsTheTakeaway

6 жыл бұрын

Patrick Keller Didn't they have firearms?

@patrickkeller2193

6 жыл бұрын

It is set in an Alternative Napoleonic War. So yes they had single shot firearms. Mostly pistols, because they could be attached to the person more easily. But they would stach and use rifles on top of the dragon. Also they had people in the belly net with bombs. Also swords and daggers were quite common, because they would board each other's dragons.

@rachdarastrix5251

6 жыл бұрын

It really just depends on if you are willing to sacrifice maneuverability for fire power. If you aren't willing to reduce any natural dragon abilities for the addition of human abilities, just tell the dragon what to attack and send them in alone.

The book series Temeraire has the dragons used as a form of airforce with cannons and the like mounted on them with harnesses that allow a sizable crew of humans to maneuver around them mid flight., those dragons do get quite massive though

what could also be interesting would be some sort of balcony or pouch on the dragons chest for the rider to sit or hang in instead of riding it on its back. That would make it so much easier for the rider to actually see where the dragon is going and what targets and landmarks are below. That plus flachettes and two archers on the back would make a crew of a flying fortress. while the rider is solely focussing on stiring, two archers would probably sit on or lean against the shoulders of the dragon. This would give them the ability to see what the dragon sees while minimizing the risk to hit the wings by accident but also leaving the possibility to shoot over the back of the dragon. Another thing: More people and heavier loads mean either less maneuverability or would require every person on a dragon to basically be strapped onto it - just imagine nosedive maneuvers. I really like the video. It inspired me to think about this more thoroughly and now I would really like to see this done in a logical way in a book or a movie. :D