Trope Talk: Dragons

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Dragons! They're big, they're scaly, they're legendary! But how deep does the wyrmhole go?
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  • @michaelscott6022
    @michaelscott60223 жыл бұрын

    "My ancestors sent me a lizard?" "Hey, I'm a dragon, _DRA-GON,_ I don't do that tongue thing." *does the tongue thing*

  • @Karlos1234ify

    @Karlos1234ify

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mulan

  • @Sadeyo1

    @Sadeyo1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right in the childhood. Good stuff.

  • @beccag2758

    @beccag2758

    3 жыл бұрын

    *DISHONOR ON YOUR* 🐄

  • @nimedhel09

    @nimedhel09

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's funny. In French, he says "Nous ne parlons pas la même langue" before doing the tongue thing (aka "We don't talk the same language") so there's a nuance that's lost in translation there. The more you know...

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot

    @Self-replicating_whatnot

    3 жыл бұрын

    As AronRa once pointed out, dragons are the only kind of lizard(except snake) who actually do that tongue thing.

  • @simplysmiley4670
    @simplysmiley4670 Жыл бұрын

    I love how portrayal of dragons turned from "basically a god" into "an oversized huggable reptile"

  • @dqixsoss7436

    @dqixsoss7436

    Жыл бұрын

    As it should be

  • @jazzratoon

    @jazzratoon

    Жыл бұрын

    Why not both?

  • @Leviathansgard

    @Leviathansgard

    Жыл бұрын

    both. both is good.

  • @trollman_2345

    @trollman_2345

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jazzratoon Fwench Fwy from the artist Chikn Nugget. Nuff said.

  • @DrDolan2000

    @DrDolan2000

    Жыл бұрын

    Huggable, reptilian girlfriend who gives head scratches and kisses I listen to too much asmr

  • @Mance1680
    @Mance16802 жыл бұрын

    Dragon: *exists* Storm God: "Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!"

  • @emanuelrojas2

    @emanuelrojas2

    8 ай бұрын

    Indeed it was.

  • @myartjoruney3523

    @myartjoruney3523

    2 ай бұрын

    Is this an Aurora reference?

  • @lepidusstupidius2956

    @lepidusstupidius2956

    28 күн бұрын

    @@myartjoruney3523 It's a Kung-fu panda reference

  • @gagamer7251

    @gagamer7251

    23 күн бұрын

    Odin, sighing: Ugh... fine. Roll initiative... again...

  • @icel8828
    @icel8828 Жыл бұрын

    The real reason dragons are so popular globally is because dragons are cool

  • @DavidGonzalez-zl3dz

    @DavidGonzalez-zl3dz

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly think that might be it

  • @xynged

    @xynged

    Жыл бұрын

    or on average people have more subconscious scaley tendencies than furry

  • @icel8828

    @icel8828

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xynged fluffy dragons exist!

  • @alpharius2omegaboogaloo384

    @alpharius2omegaboogaloo384

    Жыл бұрын

    @@icel8828 Get that idea out of my head

  • @icel8828

    @icel8828

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 no. I will put it there

  • @olegsbalaclava1051
    @olegsbalaclava10513 жыл бұрын

    Someone: "Big lizard that probably flies." People all over the world all throughout history: " *YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO* "

  • @frankspick7544

    @frankspick7544

    3 жыл бұрын

    there not lizards they dont do the tounge thing

  • @Ribbons0121R121

    @Ribbons0121R121

    3 жыл бұрын

    oop

  • @evagriusponticus4080

    @evagriusponticus4080

    3 жыл бұрын

    Japan: Hear me out here me out What if the lizard couldn't fly was even bigger and nigh indestructable

  • @TheRezro

    @TheRezro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@evagriusponticus4080 Fun fact: Godzilla (aka Cthulhu aka Kraken aka Leviathan aka Kagutsuchi) straight fulfil definition of a dragon. Quetzalcoatlus northropi, so actual big (33ft/10m) lizard what did fly, do not.

  • @TheRezro

    @TheRezro

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@Waffie The Dweeb A elemental deity. Word dragon originated from bible where it is used in Latin version of bible as title of Satan as the Serpent. But later it become used to describe broad category of wild elemental deities and overpowered monsters such as Lindworm or Wyvern. Here it is worth to mention that most famous and most stereotypical (gold hording) dragon is Fafnir who actually is a dwarf, who in Nordic mythologies were also a deities (earth elementals specifically). Being a deity is in fact most constant trait even in many cases overshadowing snake part. For example in Journey to the West white dragon Bai Longma spend way more time as a horse and later human then actual serpent. Anyway, even if most elemental deities are serpentine some also appear as birds (Phoenix, Suzaku, Rok, Geruda, Ziz, etc) or other types of beasts (like Behemot, Byakko, etc), also a "sacred steeds" (Unicorns, Griffins, Kirins, Burak, etc) and of course human. In fact it is quite possible that smith/knight defeating dragon in legend dating to Proto-Indo-Eurpeans as storm deity was a dragon himself.

  • @ysgramorssoupspoon2261
    @ysgramorssoupspoon22613 жыл бұрын

    "My cousin is out fighting Dragons and what do I get? Guard duty." -Whiterun Guard while walking away from a fresh Dragon corpse

  • @cereskerrigan

    @cereskerrigan

    3 жыл бұрын

    “I was an adventurer like you, till I took an arrow to the knee.” - Whiterun Guard before being crushed by a dragon.

  • @RequiemPoete

    @RequiemPoete

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Someone stole your sweet roll?" To you after murdering the dragon.

  • @kingnothing8570

    @kingnothing8570

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RequiemPoete you know come to think of it guards really are just assholes fucking with you aren't they.

  • @Bird_Dog00

    @Bird_Dog00

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pesant: "Excuse me, Lord Player Character Sir. Please. There are those mudcraps that occupy the river banks and keep me from catching fish to feed my hungry children. Please Sir, help me and slay those mudcraps. I'm just a simple pesant and wouldn't stand a chance agai..." *dragon appears in the village Pesant: "Excuse me Sir..." *Pesant draws iron dagger and charges the dragon: "Leeeroy Jeeenkiiiiins!!!"

  • @kevinconrad6156

    @kevinconrad6156

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kingnothing8570 They are police after all.

  • @Dexuz
    @Dexuz Жыл бұрын

    I love how Fire Emblem essentially uses all possible dragon tropes and roles. Dragon hero? Check Dragon villain? Check Divine dragon? Check Demonic dragon? Check Apocalyptic dragon? Check Nuisance dragon? Check Human-like dragon? Check Animalistic dragon? Check Dragon-shifter? Check Dragon jewelry? Check Dragon riding? Check Dragon banging?... C-check

  • @saphiriathebluedragonknight375

    @saphiriathebluedragonknight375

    10 ай бұрын

    Dragon Grandma/ Check.

  • @phoenixfire1074

    @phoenixfire1074

    10 ай бұрын

    I honestly would like to know more about them. The only Fire Emblem dragon I really know anything about is Corrin

  • @siph0r154

    @siph0r154

    9 ай бұрын

    ​​@@phoenixfire1074 It will be very interesting for you to then go and play the other games in this fantastic(al) series. I will give you some guidance. If you want a dragon as a villain, play a fire emblem game. Like, any. Even Corrin opposes one in their own game xD That kinda coincides with the apocalyptic thing. Rideable dragons also come into play fairly often. There are Unit-, classes that ride what FE calls Wyverns. Which are basically the animalistic and tamable kind. There are people in the FE-Universe who can transform into Dragons by the use of a special object called a Dragonstone. In FE-Lore they are called Manakete and technically Corrin is one of those. So the shifters and humanoids are covered as well as the Jewelry. Some FE-Stories are about a clash of Gods. Usually represented as Dragons. So we have the Divine Good as well as evil. And when it comes to the last one.... Fire Emblem Awakening and Fates allow you to establish romances between a variety of characters and units with a degree of freedom. Those pairing then can even have children. In Awakening one of those is a Manakete called Nowi. I will let you Google her yourself to figure out why OP was a bit... Uncomfortable about that 😅

  • @damianiscringe1082

    @damianiscringe1082

    9 ай бұрын

    Dragon hero: Corrin Dragon villian: like half the franchise's main villians Divine dragon: Alear Demonic dragon: Sombron Apocalyptic dragon: the fire dragons from fe7 and medius from fe11 Nuisance dragons: alot of them Human like dragon: tiki, Fae, myrrh, ninian and Nils Animalistic dragon: maneketes Dragon shifter: maneketes Dragon riding: wyvern riders Dragon banging: eliwood and ninian

  • @MariOmor1

    @MariOmor1

    9 ай бұрын

    Getting pushed down the stairs? Check

  • @ikariyabiollante867
    @ikariyabiollante867 Жыл бұрын

    Seeing as dragons can range from nigh-omniscient to mindless, can appear in a practically uncountable number of ways, and the consistent through-line of their portrayals is that they're incredibly powerful, I'm putting forth the thesis that dragons are Lovecraftian eldritch beings that decided to look more fashionable at the cost of not being able to melt someone's frontal lobe just by existing

  • @StarshadowMelody

    @StarshadowMelody

    Жыл бұрын

    How is that a cost, exactly?

  • @koboldcrusader

    @koboldcrusader

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StarshadowMelody listen sometimes people can be really annoying to the point where instant remote lobotomies can be a boon okay

  • @crypticmedicine

    @crypticmedicine

    Жыл бұрын

    "I am limitless, fathomless, undefinable. I strike fear into the hearts of my enemies and defy categorization. But.... can I also be _sexy?_ "

  • @lawrence8871

    @lawrence8871

    Жыл бұрын

    They sometimes do that anyway! Source: Fablehaven series by Brandon Mull

  • @Awesomeflame16

    @Awesomeflame16

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crypticmedicine Gotta get them ladies

  • @illegalmemedealer3549
    @illegalmemedealer35493 жыл бұрын

    I think it’s cool that basically every culture saw a reptile and decided “what if it could fly and do magic that’d be sick as hell”

  • @AxxLAfriku

    @AxxLAfriku

    3 жыл бұрын

    I broke my feet today because I kicked my computer because someone commented that my videos are bad! I hate unjustified criticism. Please wish me a speedy recovery, dear meme

  • @porter5224

    @porter5224

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AxxLAfriku your videos are bad

  • @yeethittter1285

    @yeethittter1285

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AxxLAfriku your videos are bad

  • @illegalmemedealer3549

    @illegalmemedealer3549

    3 жыл бұрын

    AxxL delete your channel

  • @yeethittter1285

    @yeethittter1285

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@illegalmemedealer3549 okay there's no need for that

  • @bulldowozer5858
    @bulldowozer58583 жыл бұрын

    "I'm punk, so I must rebel" "I'm asian, so I must like math" "I dye my hair crazy colors, so I must be looking for attention" *"I'm a dragon, so I must be defeated by a storm-god"*

  • @michaelzheng5250

    @michaelzheng5250

    3 жыл бұрын

    Chinese dragons: But I *am* a storm god

  • @bulldowozer5858

    @bulldowozer5858

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelzheng5250 * Existential crisis intensifies *

  • @neptunnae

    @neptunnae

    3 жыл бұрын

    Michael Zheng can’t trust anyone not even yourself

  • @friend_trilobot

    @friend_trilobot

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dying 🤣

  • @Aveilas11

    @Aveilas11

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelzheng5250 Lots of Chinese dragons get wrecked by other dragons because of family drama so that tracks XD

  • @TheMormonSorceress
    @TheMormonSorceress Жыл бұрын

    I always thought gold was a dragon's equivalent to twigs and sticks to make comfortable beds for them like how twigs and sticks are to birds.

  • @Cara-39

    @Cara-39

    Жыл бұрын

    It is. Gold is a very soft metal so it makes sense that dragons, who hoard gold to begin with, also use it for a bed. This gives them a comfy mattress and protects against thieves

  • @proto-type3201

    @proto-type3201

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@Cara-39yeah,the fact that it's valuable to humans is just a coincidence

  • @Mech299
    @Mech2998 ай бұрын

    Dragons as cats: *Stares at viking leader, unblinking for a solid minute, his paw outstretched, watching the viking leader keep saying "Noooooo! Don't you do it!" as the Dragon mimes knocking the lower-ranked viking off a cliff*

  • @JoCat
    @JoCat3 жыл бұрын

    it's a crime they're extinct

  • @howeyyadoing9070

    @howeyyadoing9070

    3 жыл бұрын

    We’ve only got the Komodo sub-species now

  • @goldenexperiencerequiem6515

    @goldenexperiencerequiem6515

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oof

  • @theonetruedonut

    @theonetruedonut

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ssssssh we added them to fiction so people would forget they ever existed

  • @blitzwulf6655

    @blitzwulf6655

    3 жыл бұрын

    I see Jocat is on the same youtube cycle as me right now.

  • @aaronh-d2444

    @aaronh-d2444

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is why they are never the protagonist

  • @holier_than_thou0102
    @holier_than_thou01023 жыл бұрын

    Any dragon: *breathes* A storm god within fifty feet of the dragon, rolling up their sleeves: alright, that’s it-

  • @UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q

    @UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thor 4 plot confirmed

  • @holier_than_thou0102

    @holier_than_thou0102

    3 жыл бұрын

    Irodoku Puzzle oh my god he even fought a dragon in Thor Ragnarok wtf

  • @kziila0244

    @kziila0244

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mac N’Cheese ...You’re right.

  • @hitkid2456

    @hitkid2456

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q Maybe it's Susanoo posing as Thor?

  • @taylorgoldman130

    @taylorgoldman130

    3 жыл бұрын

    You just yee’d your last haw

  • @leonader9465
    @leonader94658 ай бұрын

    A spider/insect-based dragon is actually a sick concept.

  • @gameover9390

    @gameover9390

    7 ай бұрын

    No! Please god no! Noooooooooooooo!

  • @gex6692

    @gex6692

    3 ай бұрын

    Literally the lost continent in wings of fire

  • @andrewmalinowski6673

    @andrewmalinowski6673

    3 ай бұрын

    Tell that to someone with either arachnophobia or any insect phobia like mellisophobia or apipophobia

  • @kurage_medusa

    @kurage_medusa

    2 ай бұрын

    Considering how cool dragon_flies_ are, I've had the idea of dragonfly-inspired dragons

  • @user-nf3kz9ee2n
    @user-nf3kz9ee2n Жыл бұрын

    In Korean folklore, there are 'near-dragon' entities called 'Imugi's. When a serpent lives for a hundred years, it becomes an imugi, which has the ability to bring storms and waves. An imugi must survive another thousand years and earn the 'Yeouiju' and ascend to become a dragon without any mortals watching it. Most Imugis are depicted as nice and helpful, but there are some 'evil' imugis in korean folklore. For example, an imugi lived for 1000 years and found the Yeouiju and when it was finally ascending to the sky, a mortal saw it ascending (which makes him turn back to an imugi), and it obviously became mad and killed the mortal. The 'evil turned' imugis become monsters called 'Gangcheori's and cause drought and fire (kinda similar to the flame breathing dragons) Imugis that succeed in ascending become dragons and become immortal.

  • @n1thecaptain965

    @n1thecaptain965

    7 ай бұрын

    Honestly I'm not sure that's entirely evil, if I had to wait 1000 years to become a dragon and then had start all over again last second just because some guy couldn't look the other way, I'd be extremely pissed off as well

  • @thek2despot426

    @thek2despot426

    Ай бұрын

    Bruh, I know this from the movie Dragon Wars.

  • @VegitoBlue941
    @VegitoBlue9413 жыл бұрын

    "Call your usually human-shaped bad guy a dragon" Me: King Dragon sends his regard

  • @leomoreno7369

    @leomoreno7369

    2 жыл бұрын

    Archibald, NO!

  • @ankerhedemand5918

    @ankerhedemand5918

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@leomoreno7369 I hope all of us can be the best of chums, and nothing will ever change that.

  • @ametsunami4070

    @ametsunami4070

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, this journey’s only just beGUN

  • @cappertilge8916

    @cappertilge8916

    2 жыл бұрын

    If only my little brother Gunther could see me now

  • @spaghettboy2173

    @spaghettboy2173

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cappertilge8916 Guys I’m right here. I think I have dialogue for this

  • @lguffee4930
    @lguffee49303 жыл бұрын

    Dragons: *Exist* Storm Gods: So anyways, I started blasting-

  • @theshuman100

    @theshuman100

    3 жыл бұрын

    shame we never got a deep dive into the storm spirit trope 😔

  • @bc7282

    @bc7282

    3 жыл бұрын

    L Guffee dragons are evil super rich people, who throughout history would reign terror on the poor. Just think of gangsters who made it as big as could be. After a few generations, power corrupts, they sit on gold. Hydra is their organisations, when you cut off the head, another arises. What is more likely, real dragons and mythical creatures, or it's symbolic of reality from people who couldn't write, but would draw images to pass on information. Propaganda is real.

  • @Valaame

    @Valaame

    3 жыл бұрын

    An explaination for that would actually be; indo-europeans. Those guys had a HUGE worship of the dragon as both a god and a monster symbolizing war and violence. That's why, with some variations, a lot of the places they went to ended up having some kind of dragon in their mythos. That would actually explain the "defeated by a storm god". That part had to be in the original indo-european myth. That's of course excluding the Mesoamerican and autralian dragons, which were simply a serpent worship mixed with birds/rainbow. So, dragon-coincidence? I think (mostly) not!

  • @theshuman100

    @theshuman100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Valaame so what youre saying is, colonisation

  • @hexwolfi

    @hexwolfi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Valaame That's why Susanoo slaying the serpent Yamato-no-Orochi is now believed to be Indo-European in origin as well, probably introduced to Japan from India with the arrival of Buddhism. It's amazing how that myth managed to find itself spread all the way from Scandinavia to Japan!

  • @Davisnacho
    @Davisnacho2 жыл бұрын

    There is one example of dragon riding in folklore. The Romanian concept of the Scholomance was a black magic school taught by the devil. One of the graduates would be chosen to become Weathermaster, riding a dragon to control the weather. This idea was adapted into the Scholomance series by Naomi Novik, minus the devil and the dragon. R.I.P. Weather Dragon. Also storms and dragons...again.

  • @user-ng4xe5rf8n

    @user-ng4xe5rf8n

    6 ай бұрын

    In Asia too. In Taoism there is an entire category of deities that ride dragons, either on their backs or with chariots. Partly because Asian dragons are to animals what dosas are to humans: who are enlightened in the Tao and ascended. We even have 용마, which is a literal horse-dragon.

  • @phryg2035

    @phryg2035

    3 ай бұрын

    @@user-ng4xe5rf8n how are dosas related to humans

  • @user-ng4xe5rf8n

    @user-ng4xe5rf8n

    3 ай бұрын

    @@phryg2035 Dosa is an ascended human through understanding The Way. There is no dosa that is not human. edit: typo

  • @grayfox9191
    @grayfox91912 жыл бұрын

    I find the concept of having a tiny dragon as a weapon hilarious. Like when a character's in a pinch and pulls out a pocket dragon or maybe there's a standoff with a bunch of characters in a circle pointing tiny dragons at each other. XD

  • @petertaylor4980

    @petertaylor4980

    Жыл бұрын

    Happens in some Discworld books.

  • @themostbritishpersonalive868

    @themostbritishpersonalive868

    Жыл бұрын

    Dragons don’t kill people, people with dragons kill people

  • @Epicmonk117
    @Epicmonk1173 жыл бұрын

    *Ancient Mythology:* _Themes of storm gods killing dragons_ *Me:* Is that why dragons in _Dark Souls_ are weak to lightning damage?

  • @tank19768

    @tank19768

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sort of; Gwyn is a pretty explicit parallel to Zeus and a lot of Dark Souls 1 is steeped in Greek/Norse mythology.

  • @Epicmonk117

    @Epicmonk117

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tank19768 I can see the Gwyn's connection to Zeus and Nito's connection to Hades, but I'm not seeing any other parallels. Could you please elaborate?

  • @Prosauropodslovecake

    @Prosauropodslovecake

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ooh... Robert Baratheon was the lord of the Stormlands..... And he killed the dragon kings!

  • @sanfransiscon

    @sanfransiscon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Epicmonk117 I could see Gwyn and the other founders of the age of fire being a parallel to the Olympians usurping control from the Titans. Gwyndolin's association with moonlight, femininity, and archery also gives off Artemis vibes.

  • @tank19768

    @tank19768

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Epicmonk117 If we're talking general parallels between Dark Souls and other mythologies, there's obviously the creation myth, which has the gods overthrowing the dragons to bring about a new world order, similarly to the Greek gods overthrowing the titans. There's the world tree from Norse, as the world of Dark Souls lies atop an archtree as seen when descending through the Great Hollow to Ash Lake (notice how the lake extends all around despite being far below ground). The titanite slab is engraved with 100% legible and translatable runes. Anor Londo, being a city of gods on top of a mountain has parallels to Mount Olympus. There's the primordial serpents, which are obviously involved in a lot of mythologies. There's the balder knights, which while bearing no explicit parallels to Baldur, is a pretty obvious reference. I'm sure there are others, but these are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

  • @NekogamiKun127
    @NekogamiKun1273 жыл бұрын

    *Red:* "He's a dragon! He's a dragon! You're a dragon! I'm a dragon! Are there any other dragons I should know about?" *Toothless:* "Meow"

  • @RamBam3000

    @RamBam3000

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glaurung would like a word. Ancalagon would too, only he can’t talk. And letting Glauring talk to you is a really bad idea; just ask Turin, or Nienor. *Especially if you’re unwise enough to look into Glaurung’s eyes are the same time.*

  • @trulyredacted9161

    @trulyredacted9161

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oof

  • @PhoenyxRysing

    @PhoenyxRysing

    3 жыл бұрын

    Firedrake from 'Dragon Rider' and all the dragons from 'The Fire Within', maybe?

  • @moriskurth628

    @moriskurth628

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dragon Hunters stretched the definition of Dragon to its absolute breaking point. I mean, you had the Ramadur and the "Draft Dragon" (that pulled an airship), both ofwhich fit the european description, but also more outlandish stuff like Hector, who was a fuzzy dog-ferret thing with roughly human intelligence, the Vanikoro, which was just a huge Chameleon, and the Aartog which was a huge Spider Creature that could shapeshift into human form, and had a desire to live *as* a human as opposed to being a "Dragon" (It still got killed at the end after it tried to take the place of one of the Protagonists), among other species. I think in that world, "Dragon" seems to be a catch-all term for any monster that isn't more or less a normal animal, like sheep or pigs, though domesticated Dragons, like Hector, also existed which muddles the whole thing somewhat...

  • @trulyredacted9161

    @trulyredacted9161

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yis

  • @lucatan6985
    @lucatan6985 Жыл бұрын

    I love how depending on how you analyze the game's "ideas", the Enderdragon fits Tolkiens description

  • @5t3phan

    @5t3phan

    6 ай бұрын

    I hate you for putting this in my head, you genius.

  • @ruffedgrouse2711

    @ruffedgrouse2711

    4 ай бұрын

    Could you elaborate?

  • @funnyvideoguy3216
    @funnyvideoguy3216 Жыл бұрын

    I always love it when dragons are depicted as like actual animals, rather than just beings of power. It kinda makes them feel more grounded into the world and more interesting

  • @soulcyclone360

    @soulcyclone360

    Жыл бұрын

    I like it when there are both intelligent and animal-like dragons in the same world. It sets up so many potential storytelling opportunities about the world and its lore, on top of any story's revolving around a central set of characters who need to interact with dragons.

  • @cheepmovprod

    @cheepmovprod

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s how I depict all monsters. The Realm of Dragons is a project on my DevaintArt where I treat dragons like real creatures, give them scientific names, and try to classify them as best I can.

  • @Dexuz

    @Dexuz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@soulcyclone360 Fire Emblem! (The actual stories being good is up to debate)

  • @soulcyclone360

    @soulcyclone360

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Dexuz is there a particular game I should start with? Or should I just pick up the first one I see.

  • @Dexuz

    @Dexuz

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@soulcyclone360 I'd say Awakening is best for a first-player experience, maybe Fates too.

  • @KyleRayner12
    @KyleRayner123 жыл бұрын

    Imagine an alternate reality wherein dragons aren't a thing, but there's some nonspecific, pan-mythological entity that's basically a magic spider.

  • @hogndog2339

    @hogndog2339

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spiders with wings, sea spiders, fire-breathing spiders, gold-loving spiders, venomous spid - wait

  • @epauletshark3793

    @epauletshark3793

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hogndog2339 on the spiders with wings: there are spiders that can fly in real life, using a process called ballooning. It's awesome. I had one float in front of my face while I was on a hike. It's more floating on the wind. And I also find this really cool and want to ramble about it.

  • @KyleRayner12

    @KyleRayner12

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@epauletshark3793 What species do that? (My only experience with weird spiders is with social spiders, which raise their young instead of eating them.)

  • @masterskellington92

    @masterskellington92

    2 жыл бұрын

    In all reality, the ultimate creature is crabs and lobsters. They always find a way back.

  • @mrcakeday1439

    @mrcakeday1439

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@epauletshark3793 Oh, I hate everything you just describe. I just had a nightmare today where a spider nest fell on me. I’m still traumatized.

  • @lv26Phoenix
    @lv26Phoenix3 жыл бұрын

    Mythologies all around the world: "Storm God vs Dragon" Dark Souls 3: "But what if Storm God and Dragon vs you?"

  • @eertikrux666

    @eertikrux666

    3 жыл бұрын

    Infographic show: WRITE THAT DOWN

  • @jthompson7024

    @jthompson7024

    3 жыл бұрын

    If we're being really technical it was a war god and a storm dragon (drake) but either way they whooped my ass several times before I beat them

  • @timelordacaelus5959

    @timelordacaelus5959

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who says I'M not a dragon too? Dark Souls gives you that option in all 3 games, and I ALWAYS take it!

  • @Archon3960

    @Archon3960

    3 жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile, in One Piece... Kaidou : *"I AM THE STORM DRAGON!!"*

  • @zack8596

    @zack8596

    3 жыл бұрын

    More like storm god, dragon and camera vs you.

  • @wandererjiyuren661
    @wandererjiyuren661 Жыл бұрын

    I think anatomically Dragons are by way of their disparate nature a taxonomic Order, rather than family or a genus or one specific species. Because of this any creature that can reasonably be recognized as a dragon can be included in that order, because it shares some nebulous characteristics with all the rest of dragondom, even if not every dragon shares ANY of those characteristics. In fact I think the only characteristic I've never seen missing from dragons is that they have scales are very similar to reptiles.

  • @yusheitslv100

    @yusheitslv100

    Жыл бұрын

    Idea based on your comment: 6th group of vertebrates?

  • @lucyandecember2843

    @lucyandecember2843

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yusheitslv100 definitly lol

  • @nomdeplume9590

    @nomdeplume9590

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yusheitslv100 Nah, because dragons DEFINITELY seem like they're in the clade Sauropsida, considering they're generally reptilian, and although some have wings, birds are Sauropsida too; the Reptilia class contains all sauropsids other than birds, so dragons fit right in there. As the original commentor said, they fit as an order, although I *guess* I can see making them a different class, considering that birds and reptiles are both sauropsids but are in different classes.

  • @mollycanwell9924

    @mollycanwell9924

    Жыл бұрын

    haha, have i got news for you...(go read the dragonriders of pern books and marvel at the dragons' "soft hides," and wonder (as i do) how these creatures can still be so clearly and obviously dragons despite missing the dragon's only consistent defining feature)

  • @philipsheehan3754

    @philipsheehan3754

    Жыл бұрын

    May I offer you Seath the Scaleless (I know I’m cheating as he is literally just a regular dragon with a genetic defect but still)

  • @amer6706
    @amer6706 Жыл бұрын

    The How To Train Your Dragon book dragons are cool, because they have the tiny harmless dragons but also dragons the size of mountainsides that see past, present, and future. And dragons of all different species. Some hardly look like our idea of dragons except typically having an isocelene on their tail, wings, and four legs. They range from intelligence beyond humans to animal stupidity, and most of them speak Dragonese. Also, the exploration of their “selfish, malevolent behavior” is very interesting.

  • @jplus1054

    @jplus1054

    9 ай бұрын

    Exactly, and this is why I never liked the movies - I was a hardcore How to Train Your Dragon BOOK fan. The movies basically just stole the character names then wrote a completely different story that spit on everything that made the books good - that being the unique take and perspective on dragons as a species and their interactions with humans.

  • @Attaxalotl

    @Attaxalotl

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jplus1054 I liked the movies. They're a bad _adaptation,_ but they're good if you take them as two separate things.

  • @Eldrisaur
    @Eldrisaur3 жыл бұрын

    Dragons: *Exist* Storm gods: and I took that personally

  • @freyathewanderer6359

    @freyathewanderer6359

    3 жыл бұрын

    The idea of dragons could have arisen because ancient people found dinosaur fossils and, not knowing what dinosaurs were, [ahem!] imagined dragons.

  • @joshuakirkham9224

    @joshuakirkham9224

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well if you think about it, dragons are ultimate, powerhouse, magical, juggernauts. So it’d kinda make sense to throw them up against the more powerful gods in any given story. Said gods are usually storm gods in some capacity. ...I think... idk

  • @foxyboy-dn9yj

    @foxyboy-dn9yj

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuakirkham9224*cough* thunder= big roar of flying monster

  • @redpikachu3754

    @redpikachu3754

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is THIS the reason the dragons in Dark Souls are weak to lightning!?

  • @nevisysbryd7450

    @nevisysbryd7450

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuakirkham9224 Either storm, sky, and/or sun are the most common top-power of most myths, and all three are usually at least high-tier.

  • @nef36
    @nef363 жыл бұрын

    _Ancient human looks at lizard_ "What if that was bigger? *AND BETTER???"*

  • @sayerglasgow115

    @sayerglasgow115

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Upgrades people! Upgrades!"

  • @petrsevcik5044

    @petrsevcik5044

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean, there are the Komodo dragons...

  • @rachaelevans8351

    @rachaelevans8351

    3 жыл бұрын

    Petr Ševčík but wings

  • @Vegas242

    @Vegas242

    3 жыл бұрын

    **Ancient human finds dinosaur fossil** "Holy shit! What kind of monster died to leave this here?!"

  • @italucenaz

    @italucenaz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Vegas242 a giant human of couse

  • @RoonMian
    @RoonMian2 жыл бұрын

    You forgot one of the most well known dragons, the one from Revelation: "Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth."

  • @saphiriathebluedragonknight375

    @saphiriathebluedragonknight375

    10 ай бұрын

    I thought she was going to mention that one. Which reminds me, I've the word Dragon appeared a lot more in the original King James Version. It has since been replaced by other animals, namely the jackal. It's was likely referring to dinosaurs, as it is believed that many tales of dragons came from dinosaur bones.

  • @Vanity0666

    @Vanity0666

    6 ай бұрын

    My personal favorite tidbit about Satan in his seven headed serpent form is that japan was like "Yamata-no-orochi has eight heads lol" and the greeks were like "Hydra has nine heads lol"

  • @Sam_596
    @Sam_5962 жыл бұрын

    "Is Smaug in this one?" That's the cutest thing I've ever seen

  • @KitKat-sv9qp
    @KitKat-sv9qp3 жыл бұрын

    Ok but using a tiny DRAGON as a weapon is the most metal thing ever, and of course it came from the people that did blood sacrifices

  • @EndanDrachon

    @EndanDrachon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much every old Mesoamerican culture had human sacrifice. The Aztecs were just particularly...enthusiastic about it.

  • @veggiesblowup8785

    @veggiesblowup8785

    3 жыл бұрын

    A* people that did blood sacrifices. FTFY

  • @theoveranalyzingcinephile983

    @theoveranalyzingcinephile983

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well Valyrians only tamed dragons through blood magic and blood sacrifices...

  • @toprak3479

    @toprak3479

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@veggiesblowup8785 Not sure if "a people" is grammatically correct but yeah it _is_ hisorically correct.

  • @veggiesblowup8785

    @veggiesblowup8785

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@toprak3479 'A people' is grammatically correct, as it refers to a single body in collective. Upon further thought, though, it's probably more historically accurate to say "some number of peoples", 'cause mesoamerica had as much diversity of people groups as anywhere else.

  • @worthlesshuman5041
    @worthlesshuman50413 жыл бұрын

    Red: "Dragon as noble steed is historically unprecedented" The Horse from Journey to the West: "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @coolgreenbug7551

    @coolgreenbug7551

    3 жыл бұрын

    but you never get to ride him as a dragon, he just goes into lame horse mode. Thats like saying Bumblebee is a giant anime mech because he is a giant robot and people drive him. there both true but not at the same time and thats key

  • @kiya46107

    @kiya46107

    3 жыл бұрын

    But for most of the story he's... a horse... not a dragon.

  • @numbersinnames5039

    @numbersinnames5039

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well he’s kind of meant to serve as an allegory which is why he mainly acts as a horse, but his origins as a dragon is still very important.

  • @goldengaruda8935

    @goldengaruda8935

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @selenopheria

    @selenopheria

    3 жыл бұрын

    /gestures to the JttW series here/ It is absolutely a joke to her.

  • @alexjewett7455
    @alexjewett7455 Жыл бұрын

    I think the reason people like trying to taxonomize dragons, and magical creatures in general, is because it's just an interesting thought experiment. What would these creatures be like if they actually existed? What would they look like? Where would they live? What would they eat? For me, at least, it just makes the fantasy feel so much more real.

  • @leobastian_

    @leobastian_

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah. its not that helpful for trope analysis, but its incredibly helpful for worldbuiliding or just enjoying media on a deeper level

  • @5t3phan

    @5t3phan

    6 ай бұрын

    I just do it because I am weirdly desperate to be thorough in my worldbuilding, lol

  • @anominon
    @anominon Жыл бұрын

    I like to think that dragons don't hoard just because they like shinies, more likely they've just always been employed to guard treasure... BUUUT I also like the idea that they actually gather a hoard like a bower bird's bower, something made to attract a mate or something, that could be an interesting spin on the old hoarding thing.

  • @iamsad1966
    @iamsad19663 жыл бұрын

    My forever favorite dragon subversion is “the Dragun has a gun.”

  • @TheRhuen

    @TheRhuen

    3 жыл бұрын

    How about being the dragon is a gun, lots of guns. See Digimon , Gundramon

  • @fangabxyfangabxy8563

    @fangabxyfangabxy8563

    3 жыл бұрын

    “No girls! Girls gotta die!” -that one video

  • @iksskan9147

    @iksskan9147

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRhuen not close to Enter the Gungeon Dragun who throws knives which shoot bullets

  • @JohnDoe-sx6iw

    @JohnDoe-sx6iw

    3 жыл бұрын

    What about the "Dragon his feet" one?

  • @Silverwind87

    @Silverwind87

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gungeons and Draguns

  • @felinecontrolled
    @felinecontrolled3 жыл бұрын

    Red: "one who stares" Me: So, cats? Also Red: Yes, cats!

  • @johannageisel5390

    @johannageisel5390

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or owls.

  • @ryoumakoushiro7447

    @ryoumakoushiro7447

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's cats.... I mean, look at them, they're staring into the corner, while I'm right by their side..... Yikes

  • @jakeaurod

    @jakeaurod

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't Falkor, the Luck Dragon in The Neverending Story, more dog-like? After all, what is a Pointer, but a dog who stares?

  • @matthewzard

    @matthewzard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Johanna Geisel, omg, OWLS ARE FLYING CATS

  • @cereskerrigan

    @cereskerrigan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Matthewzard Considering that owls can actually eat cats, I strongly advise that you think that comment through.

  • @18wolfspirit
    @18wolfspirit Жыл бұрын

    Dragons are one of my favorite mythical beasts. Their colored scales, how they can spew breath of different elements, their claws and fangs. I would love to have one as a pet or friend.

  • @LemonFlump
    @LemonFlump2 жыл бұрын

    So I’ve been reading the Wheel of Time lately. This video really makes me step back and look at the main character a bit differently. The Dragon Reborn as he’s called echoes all the tropes of a physical dragon without being a scaled winged scary lizard. Just the name of him can inspire that awe that dragons have had for millennia. Fascinating, thank you

  • @thelegend8570
    @thelegend85703 жыл бұрын

    Thor: I have a cool hammer, what weapon do you use? Huitzilopochtli: *_S N E K_*

  • @coolgreenbug7551

    @coolgreenbug7551

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thor: I concede

  • @kabob0077

    @kabob0077

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jormüngandr: *P O W E R S N E K*

  • @weldonwin

    @weldonwin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vimes of the Watch: Oh hey, I have one of those too

  • @phoenixfire1074
    @phoenixfire10743 жыл бұрын

    I have a sweater that says, “Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup”

  • @aidangreen7711

    @aidangreen7711

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a plaque with almost the same quote. Except it's "for thou art crunchy and would taste good with ketchup."

  • @tompatterson1548

    @tompatterson1548

    3 жыл бұрын

    I want that sweater

  • @mcintoshpc

    @mcintoshpc

    3 жыл бұрын

    omw to rob you, sorry pal

  • @JessicaDuane

    @JessicaDuane

    3 жыл бұрын

    My mom has that shirt!

  • @The_Jaker

    @The_Jaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember having that shirt when I was like 6

  • @cydneyquinn9936
    @cydneyquinn99362 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE how you used an image from the original how to train your dragon series by Cressida Cowell for the cute/tiny dragons. That series was my childhood and still an absolute favorite ;)

  • @hyzmarie
    @hyzmarie Жыл бұрын

    I’d say dragon taxonomy makes sense within one universe (like how in WoF SilkWings and hivewings are related and the split can be traced back to one event) but once you start to get more general than that it gets impossible

  • @pleasecallmedoku7215
    @pleasecallmedoku72153 жыл бұрын

    *"Why dragons?"* Me, an intellectual: Big lizard go _W O O O O S H_

  • @twoscarabsintheswarm9055

    @twoscarabsintheswarm9055

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very Nice, I Chuckled

  • @user-dk5ne2nd7c

    @user-dk5ne2nd7c

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, you're not wrong

  • @veturwinter

    @veturwinter

    3 жыл бұрын

    This post really sucks, what even is the joke

  • @meaganford1117
    @meaganford11173 жыл бұрын

    "Let's be real, the ultimate fusion of human primal fears would probably have a lot more spiders involved." The Silmarillion has entered the chat.

  • @JGuraan

    @JGuraan

    3 жыл бұрын

    everybody gangster til the spider starts drinking trees

  • @johnphamlore8073

    @johnphamlore8073

    3 жыл бұрын

    If the spider had killed Morgoth earlier a lot of trouble would have been saved from happening.

  • @IdiotinGlans

    @IdiotinGlans

    3 жыл бұрын

    In Japanese folklore giant spiders act a lot like European dragons.

  • @NimhLabs

    @NimhLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@IdiotinGlans Aren't giant spiders in Japanese folklore also inclined to be prostitutes as well? Now I'm upset about European Dragons are not all whored up standing on the corner in the Red Light District... >.>'

  • @Windows98.

    @Windows98.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NimhLabs amsterdragon

  • @davidpeterson5647
    @davidpeterson5647 Жыл бұрын

    Yoshi is the cutest "dragon" ever known. Fight me.

  • @willku9000
    @willku90002 жыл бұрын

    5:22 there is a played straiy Mockumentary about dragons that more or less does exactly that made by the BBC and originally airing on Animal Planet in America called Dragons World : A Fantasy made Real, which is a really fun movie and actually comes up with some pretty cool realistic answers to how Dragons could’ve lived, evolved, where they went and even how they were able to fly and even Breathe fire, while also covering a framing narrative centered around a Paleontologist who is called in to examine a frozen Dragon body that was found in an icy mountainous region that I’ve forgotten exactly where, thus providing proof of dragons existing. It’s a truly Facinating movie and I really recommend it, to you guys in particular. And if you’re not sold already, there’s a scene where a prehistoric Wyvern looking dragon fights a T-REX!

  • @jacewhite8540

    @jacewhite8540

    Жыл бұрын

    Man I watched that when I was like 7. Probably inspired my love for fantasy. However nowadays it rings a lot of woo woo alarms and alerts me to film Quakery. You're really telling me they found an actual dragon, and it's not all over every history book?

  • @georgeaylard1580
    @georgeaylard15803 жыл бұрын

    Uncle Iroh: Ancient, powerful, breathes fire, central to the plot, central to the theme of the story. Even beyond the name Iroh fits the idea of a dragon completely. Love it. You even get a subversion of expectations as you’d expect a general of the bad guys to be a power-hungry maniac but he’s a kind, philosophising, old man who loves his Jasmine tea and Pai Sho. One of my favourite characters ever.

  • @demolisherman1763

    @demolisherman1763

    3 жыл бұрын

    He’s even called a dragon

  • @Midorikonokami

    @Midorikonokami

    3 жыл бұрын

    A kind philosophical old man who nonetheless _kicks major ass_ too

  • @sayerglasgow115

    @sayerglasgow115

    3 жыл бұрын

    He invented lightning redirection for that inevitable showdown with a storm god.

  • @loganbabb8509

    @loganbabb8509

    3 жыл бұрын

    IROH-NIC isn't it?

  • @tuesdaywithanh

    @tuesdaywithanh

    3 жыл бұрын

    He sounds more like a Chinese dragon than European dragon to me

  • @mutantmaster1
    @mutantmaster13 жыл бұрын

    The whole "one who stares" leans credence to the whole 'dragons are just big scaly cats'

  • @shadowstriker6506

    @shadowstriker6506

    3 жыл бұрын

    So toothless

  • @Ribbons0121R121

    @Ribbons0121R121

    3 жыл бұрын

    yo now i wanna see funny dragon vids

  • @Silverwind87

    @Silverwind87

    3 жыл бұрын

    That explains their hoards.

  • @sayerglasgow115

    @sayerglasgow115

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ribbons0121R121 "DRAGON ACCIDENTALLY BURNS DOWN FIREWORKS WAREHOUSE! [hilarious]"

  • @danirodriguez3682

    @danirodriguez3682

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m still waiting for one of my cats to breathe fire when I’m 3 seconds late to feeding them

  • @vermas4654
    @vermas4654 Жыл бұрын

    I wish there were more movies, media and stories with dragons being protagonists or helping them and less of an enemy.

  • @phoenixfire1074

    @phoenixfire1074

    11 ай бұрын

    Wings of Fire has that. It’s a book series with dragons as the protagonists

  • @shadowstar8619
    @shadowstar8619 Жыл бұрын

    "The power that comes with the utterance; the awe, the respect, the presence, the status - the dragon, embodiment of fear and reverence." This little quote is something I found that perfectly embodies what the concept of dragons ultimately boils down to. A living, universal symbol of power that everyone knows and respects for one reason or another. Just being called _a_ dragon in any sense of the word tends to garner respect or even fear, hence why the trope character of _the_ Dragon is often more easily recognized and feared even by viewers than the Big Bad might be, especially in cases where the Big Bad doesn't play a massive part in most of the story. In certain cases, the Dragon carrying more weight than the official Big Bad is a plot point in itself, hence the Dragon-in-Chief trope.

  • @rubyamateurtactician4354
    @rubyamateurtactician43543 жыл бұрын

    " But this begs the question: why dragons?" * surprised sputtering * WHY NOT DRAGONS?!?!?!?

  • @shadenfroda273

    @shadenfroda273

    3 жыл бұрын

    But I can do you one better why are dragons

  • @tygerlyn1123

    @tygerlyn1123

    3 жыл бұрын

    But...but...BUT WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS?

  • @phantomh2625

    @phantomh2625

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shadenfroda273 well that's great and all but have anyone asked how are the dragons?

  • @toprak3479

    @toprak3479

    3 жыл бұрын

    Title: Trope Talk: Dragons Everybody: *WHAT ABOUT THEM?*

  • @tybuss6211

    @tybuss6211

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly why not dragons

  • @gergory97
    @gergory973 жыл бұрын

    11:15 By Tolkien's definition, Toothless would absolutely be considered a dragon. 1) Mechanics: I don't know, is the dragon important to the plot of How to Train Your Dragon? 2) Ideas: Toothless helps to convey a lot of the themes of friendship, misunderstanding, and other things I'm too sleep-deprived to come up with.

  • @Chaossoul87

    @Chaossoul87

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely underrated comment. I agree.

  • @willphoenix5464

    @willphoenix5464

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @lemmetalkaboutthis

    @lemmetalkaboutthis

    3 жыл бұрын

    He is definitely important, First of, in many ways he is kind of a mirror to Hiccup: -One of a kind and an outcast -far smarter than their peers -unwilling to submit to a hierarchy kept in place through force -missing a limb -leaders of their respective sides (by birth, but both had to prove themself and earn their positions by gaining the necessary respect of their peers) And only a dragon with the necessary intellect and understanding of what it means to be an outsider would have given Hiccup the chance he needed to discover the true nature of dragons and bring about the changes he did, And Hiccup and Toothless both recognised themself in the other - the story would likely not have worked out with any normal dragon

  • @galning2768

    @galning2768

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lemmetalkaboutthis I may be wrong but I think it’s ironic like hmmmmmm I wonder is the *dragon* important to how to train your *dragon*

  • @lemmetalkaboutthis

    @lemmetalkaboutthis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@galning2768 I mean, the movies sprang from children's books, it can probably be excused for being a little on the nose lol tl;dr: it's about Toothless counting as a "real dragon" by _Tolkien's_ standards, which include more than just the physical shape - WE might see all the dragons as "real dragons", but Toothless might be the only one of them that Tolkien would ALSO consider a "real dragon" Okay, long explanation: there's a huge difference between movies and the books - in the books, dragons are more... kinda like livestock? A mix between pets, hunting dogs, and working-animals. But they also have a language, one that humans can speak, even if it's forbidden - the movie made them a dangerous force to be reckoned with, but also much more animalistic; smart animals, DAMN smart animals, but still animals If you went by "how to train your dragon", it sounds more like a guide for training a *pet* rather than a story about befriending an intelligent being that's on the opposite site of a generations-long war But even then, Toothless is still quite exceptional - with him and Hiccup it's more like we have two people that are learning to work with each other, while with the other dragons, it really feels a lot more like training an animal with food and commands and so-on I can see Toothless understanding a lot more from the human language than the other dragons - hell, he expresses exasperation, kind of sarcasm at times, and plays along in fake-arguments, he actively follows the human's conversations, etc.... and Hiccup talks to him like just another person a lot more than we see the other riders - they talk to their dragons a lot more like pets, or well-trained dogs, not expecting a reply or full understanding Hiccup also doesn't talk to other dragons like he does to Toothless, likely knowing that there is a pretty big gap in how well he will be understood So, like I said earlier, Toothless would count as "a REAL dragon" by Tolkien's standards, not because of what he physically is, but because he was necessary for the story itself- it wouldn't have worked with a Nadder or a Monstrous Nightmare, which WE also classify as dragons, but with Tolkien's view on the subject might not count as "real" dragons

  • @mr.picklethanos7340
    @mr.picklethanos7340 Жыл бұрын

    The fire breathing trope may have originated with the leviathan who is described as literally breathing fire and making the ocean depths boil with it's breath.

  • @AvidLearner11
    @AvidLearner11 Жыл бұрын

    Dragons as a CATEGORY just blew my mind. Thanks!

  • @TheBronzeDog
    @TheBronzeDog3 жыл бұрын

    Fun idea: D&D-type setting where every intelligent variety of dragon insists they're the "true dragons" and all the others are just posers.

  • @vlaricshard2

    @vlaricshard2

    3 жыл бұрын

    Make them embody metal stereotypes by subgenre

  • @onenerdycrow6280

    @onenerdycrow6280

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @brothervan3884

    @brothervan3884

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow! Play snake jazz in the back ground. :D

  • @MeepChangeling

    @MeepChangeling

    3 жыл бұрын

    So... Just normal baseline D&D? Guys, please read the lore.

  • @bloodstoneore4630

    @bloodstoneore4630

    3 жыл бұрын

    now I'm remembering that one tumblr pose about a noble dragonborn knight being sent to slay a dragon and rescue the princess only to realize she is both the dragon she is meant to kill and the princess she was sent to save

  • @hfar_in_the_sky
    @hfar_in_the_sky3 жыл бұрын

    “If you thought it was actually a curved, spiked club, it’s actually a fun sized dragon.” And just when you thought Aztec mythology couldn’t get more metal, we get god wielding dragons as personal weapons

  • @sewerrat7321

    @sewerrat7321

    3 жыл бұрын

    I got a few "Fun sized Dragons" of my own, if you catch my drift.

  • @dynamicworlds1

    @dynamicworlds1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sewerrat7321 that was a bad reference, but I got it 😉

  • @tsubaki4106

    @tsubaki4106

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aztec mythology, warrior culture and weapons technology is about as metal as you can get without using actual metal. Obsidian 4 life, yo!

  • @PhyreI3ird

    @PhyreI3ird

    3 жыл бұрын

    As much as I love things being metal, it honestly gave me more cartooney/looney tune vibes xD Just imagine the other Aztec gods going around bending other beings into weapons and engaging in slapstick shenanigans together while their human followers are all the polar opposite engaging in tortorous blood-rites and shit.

  • @This-Was-Sparta
    @This-Was-Sparta Жыл бұрын

    Snakes & Sepulchres Wyverns & Winecellars Serpents & Strongholds Ogres & Ossuaries Cells & Centaurs Goblins & Graveyards Ouroboroi & Oubliettes... _That's all the ones I could think of. Feel free to suggest more..._

  • @DDlambchop43

    @DDlambchop43

    Жыл бұрын

    well, considering I know what an oubliette is...that's terrifying.

  • @jackodonail1980
    @jackodonail19802 жыл бұрын

    13:58 the modern notion of a satyr being a man with goat-legs is actually a later Renaissance conflation between the Greek concept of a satyr and the Roman concept of a faun. Classical Greek satyroi were basically just men with horse tails and disturbingly large, constantly erect penises (and sometimes horns and pointed ears). In many pieces of Greek vase painting, satyroi are so mannish that most people would be unable to even identify them as anything else.

  • @Blokewood3

    @Blokewood3

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well spotted! And some of the other monsters aren't entirely consistent either. Some ancient depictions of gryphons from Crete show them without wings. The term "Chinese Phoenix" has been given to a fabulous bird from Chinese mythology which does not have the association with fire. And while nowadays the Kraken usually appears as a cephalopod, for hundreds of years it switched from being a squid, lobster, crab, or whale. The original defining feature of the Kraken was that it was so huge it could be mistaken for an island.

  • @murica7096
    @murica70963 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if that "lightning god x dragon" is caused by how thunder is the loudest thing most pre-industrial people could have the chance to hear so it makes sense that the biggest baddest monster would be fighting the lightning

  • @simpleman6352

    @simpleman6352

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice insight

  • @lokegerhardsson8979

    @lokegerhardsson8979

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lightning is often seen in the sea during storms so it makes even more sense that most lightning gods fight sea dragons.

  • @acidbunny5

    @acidbunny5

    3 жыл бұрын

    the lightning god x dragon instantly made me think of a cursed ship

  • @hughmungus3470

    @hughmungus3470

    3 жыл бұрын

    The idea of a thunder god fighting a dragon has roots in a pre-historic culture group known as the "proto-Indo Europeans" who were spread across (get this) Europe and India, bringing their stories and mythology with them. One of those myths featured a thunder god facing off against a sea serpent connected to the ocean. It spread across the continents and changed over the course of thousands of years, but the seeds of the story remained mostly constant. The story of Susanoo and Orochi is actually a relatively recent myth that likely originated from Buddhist (i.e. Indian) influence on Japan.

  • @robrockstar9648

    @robrockstar9648

    3 жыл бұрын

    Less likely but what If someone say on those thunderstorms that sometimes come off of volcanic Eruptions. That could easily appear as fire and lightning doing battle. On second thought is that Typhons thing? That He was trapped under as mountain that’s actually a volcano in real life? I can’t remember

  • @anotherpenguinsbeard
    @anotherpenguinsbeard3 жыл бұрын

    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons puny mortal. For thou art crunchy, and good with ketchup.

  • @nionashborn7626

    @nionashborn7626

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have that on a t-shirt!!!!!

  • @jacket6213

    @jacket6213

    3 жыл бұрын

    Protagonist: Yeah thats a cool story bro but uh, can you give me a ride? The final battle has started and I need to look cool.

  • @Gruntvc

    @Gruntvc

    3 жыл бұрын

    But in Soviet Russia, humans eat dragons. Dragon sandwiches... 😎

  • @Chimailai

    @Chimailai

    3 жыл бұрын

    I laughed so hard 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

  • @tjnova972

    @tjnova972

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nion Ashborn where can I get this shirt?

  • @yusheitslv100
    @yusheitslv100 Жыл бұрын

    The first 30 seconds is literally why dragons are my favorite mythical creatures.

  • @SpecialEdge
    @SpecialEdge Жыл бұрын

    Trope talk on Mermaids could be interesting- also sirens ofc have Greek origins so it would be right up this channel’s alley

  • @MahsaKaerra

    @MahsaKaerra

    Жыл бұрын

    In the Red Dwarf television series, one of the characters said that the 'woman top - fish bottom' arrangement was the stupid way of doing it. Referring to their intention to have sex with a Mermaid.

  • @kimifw58

    @kimifw58

    10 ай бұрын

    Sirens are birds.

  • @ravenashling1279
    @ravenashling12793 жыл бұрын

    “The ultimate fusion of human primal fears would probably have a lot more spiders involved” Me a DM: I know what I going to do today

  • @DolusVulpes

    @DolusVulpes

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it a spider dragon? Or maybe a dragon spider?

  • @jhart6764

    @jhart6764

    3 жыл бұрын

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

  • @kunik61

    @kunik61

    3 жыл бұрын

    STOP PROMOTE ARACHNOPHOBIC PROPAGANDA!!!!

  • @lmpeters

    @lmpeters

    3 жыл бұрын

    A long time ago, I ran a D&D 3.5 game where I presented the players with a dungeon containing celestial monstrous spiders. In order to reach the ancient artifact at the end of the dungeon, the players had to (a) realize that the spiders were not mindless killing machines, and (b) learn how to communicate with them.

  • @dustyfedora

    @dustyfedora

    3 жыл бұрын

    Isn’t that just Drow Elves and the Underdark

  • @craigtpm
    @craigtpm3 жыл бұрын

    I wrote a story with draconic people and my favorite person was “Dr. Agon”

  • @Chickentendies1989

    @Chickentendies1989

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why did it take me a second to get that

  • @craigtpm

    @craigtpm

    3 жыл бұрын

    Michael my friend needed 2 days!

  • @jeremywang5754

    @jeremywang5754

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I'm stealing that for a DND character

  • @xolotltolox7626

    @xolotltolox7626

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Chickentendies1989 How long did it take you to figure out that Alucard is Dracula backwards?

  • @craigtpm

    @craigtpm

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jeremy go ahead

  • @theimaginatrix7625
    @theimaginatrix7625 Жыл бұрын

    "The Princess is dating the dragon ..." Do not come into my house and attack one of my OTPs, Princess Andromeda and Periapt from One Good Night by Mercedes Lackey. That was an adorable match and I won't hear slander of it. Also Peri was a Bookwyrm, one of the better puns I've ever heard in any story.

  • @carnosaur93
    @carnosaur93 Жыл бұрын

    just have to shoutout all those little drawings of dragons, they are all great and adorable

  • @starblade8719
    @starblade87193 жыл бұрын

    When king dragon doesn’t send his regards:

  • @mariuchiha4664

    @mariuchiha4664

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lysanderoth you were behind all this!

  • @adrielcruz2736

    @adrielcruz2736

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mari Uchiha “if think that was a nice shot....”

  • @lablimpet

    @lablimpet

    3 жыл бұрын

    This journey has only just beGUN

  • @c3eo125

    @c3eo125

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mariuchiha4664 Yes it was I! My machinations lay undetected for years

  • @kevinboyle3104

    @kevinboyle3104

    3 жыл бұрын

    C3EO for I am a master of deception.

  • @jackcarlson4358
    @jackcarlson43583 жыл бұрын

    "Dragon isn't a specific type of creature, it's a category, like fairy or demon" That's honestly the best way I've heard it put. I've definitely gotten into debates with people who insist that "wyverns aren't dragons" like there was ANY kind of universally agreed upon definition for the term. Edit: And here comes the "well actually" crowd. Seriously folks, it's such a pointless hill to die on.

  • @dragondudeification

    @dragondudeification

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Plus there is a chance somewhere in history, there are stories that describe a dragon to be more wyvern like before the term wyvern became a official thing.

  • @hihi123hiful

    @hihi123hiful

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean, that might be because wyverns are seen as lesser or weaker. So if you’re into powerful dragons, it might be a sore spot

  • @TheOverArchiver

    @TheOverArchiver

    3 жыл бұрын

    All wyverns are dragons, not all dragons are wyverns.

  • @Bluecho4

    @Bluecho4

    3 жыл бұрын

    D&D had the right idea, making "Dragon" its own creature category.

  • @CJCroen1393

    @CJCroen1393

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same goes for people in the Pokemon fandom who whine about Altaria or Kingdra being dragons.

  • @CavalryofWinter
    @CavalryofWinter8 ай бұрын

    I want a trope talk on witches, and their often metaphorical nature!

  • @TheDeadlyKnight
    @TheDeadlyKnight2 жыл бұрын

    I like clever, perilous dragons, who at heart are predatory to man. A character may even seemingly parley words with the types of dragons I’m thinking of, but when all is said & done that character potentially a victim. Tolkien’s Smaug & Glaurung fit the description. Also I always liked Yevaud from le Guin’s Earthsea

  • @liminal7738
    @liminal77383 жыл бұрын

    “So you know lizards?” “Yeah, what about them” “What if we have them wings?” “Why would we-“ “And made them breath fire?” “Wha-“ “People will love it” “I don’t see why this will be more popular than the hundreds of other hybrids that have been created” 2000 years later ...

  • @cleoking6312

    @cleoking6312

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tbf to other chimera, dragons are chimera, from the tarrasque to smoug

  • @MsMacintosh

    @MsMacintosh

    3 жыл бұрын

    You seem to have watched too much of the "god creates things" from P.M. seymour.

  • @USSAnimeNCC-

    @USSAnimeNCC-

    3 жыл бұрын

    dragon stone Also someone paint a dragon on the side f my warship yeah

  • @Lowecust

    @Lowecust

    3 жыл бұрын

    Heh, horse plus spike

  • @Thesquishiestbean
    @Thesquishiestbean2 жыл бұрын

    I love how the one dude straight-up uses a dragon as a weapon. Imagine slinging a rattlesnake around to use it as a poison whip.

  • @kristyalberton9498
    @kristyalberton94982 жыл бұрын

    I love listening to you. Your use of descriptions, the words you use and the way you frame the ideas is very fun to listen to. Keep up the great work.

  • @northstar6920
    @northstar69203 жыл бұрын

    Norse: Dragon defeated by Storm god. Egyptian: Dragon defeated by Storm god. Japanese: Dragon defeated by Storm god. Mesopotamian: Dragon defeated by Storm god. Greek: Dragon defeated by Storm god. Coincidence, I THINK NOT!

  • @grogmadman522

    @grogmadman522

    3 жыл бұрын

    What if it was an actual real event every mythology had it's own version of ?

  • @beeaggro2593

    @beeaggro2593

    3 жыл бұрын

    The dinosaurs going extinct

  • @achintyanaithani889

    @achintyanaithani889

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same for Vedic myth. Vritra gang, upvote this!

  • @rambard5599

    @rambard5599

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@grogmadman522 I'd say it's more likely it has something to do with the common culture and religion all these cultures and religions came from.

  • @nian3262

    @nian3262

    3 жыл бұрын

    Plot twist it was the same stormgod all along!!!

  • @burntcaramel6908
    @burntcaramel69083 жыл бұрын

    Dragons: Storms gods always make my life worse Every ancient greek woman ever:

  • @ryeryeryerye

    @ryeryeryerye

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jajajajaja

  • @mariunfabregas7533

    @mariunfabregas7533

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dammit Zeus

  • @amethyst_cat9532

    @amethyst_cat9532

    3 жыл бұрын

    We need some sort of fic or animation about a dragon and a Greek woman drinking tea and gossiping about the latest shenanigans of the storm gods

  • @HexenkoeniginVonAngmar

    @HexenkoeniginVonAngmar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amethyst_cat9532 That would be hilarious XD

  • @sanai97

    @sanai97

    3 жыл бұрын

    Every woman ever: men *shiver*

  • @Galimeer5
    @Galimeer57 ай бұрын

    I'm convinced that the ubiquity of dragons in mythology across the world is because of early cultures finding dinosaur bones

  • @AdviceGinger
    @AdviceGinger2 жыл бұрын

    The whole "anything can be a dragon" is taken very literally when Kirin in Monster Hunter is considered an Elder Dragon despite being a giant lightning unicorn

  • @michellecornum5856
    @michellecornum58563 жыл бұрын

    Dragons, fairies and demons -- like pornography, "-- can't define it, but I know it when I see it."

  • @cleoking6312

    @cleoking6312

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also they are in pornography

  • @lavengale

    @lavengale

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also in the list: Sexualizing woman in media (And men at times)

  • @Ribbons0121R121

    @Ribbons0121R121

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bᵤₜ Wₕₐₜ ᵢF ᵢₜ ᵢₛ ₚₒᵣₙ

  • @Enderlinkpawnu

    @Enderlinkpawnu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ribbons0121R121 you'll know when you see it

  • @screaminggecko7660

    @screaminggecko7660

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you for this

  • @leaftiger12
    @leaftiger12 Жыл бұрын

    I have two dragons in my book series and animals with dragon-like features. The two dragons serve a major point in the story revolving magic, power, jealously, responsibly, self control, creation, and destruction. I can wait to finally write the series!

  • @kevinabiwardani7550
    @kevinabiwardani7550 Жыл бұрын

    Then, there's Charizard, a dragon looking creature which is not a dragon type. While a palm tree with tails and legs are dragon type. Gotta to love them. Also Dialga and Palkia being a godly draconic deity of Sinnoh/Hisui took the legends of our real world myth to modern times.

  • @IAmEvilTree
    @IAmEvilTree3 жыл бұрын

    Lysanderoth: A fine video indeed. King Dragon sends his regards.

  • @blarg2429

    @blarg2429

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think that enemy got... the point!

  • @oracleiscool

    @oracleiscool

    3 жыл бұрын

    this reference is so random and yet I instantly understood it

  • @liaminator4950

    @liaminator4950

    3 жыл бұрын

    AYOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @SignalRaptor_

    @SignalRaptor_

    3 жыл бұрын

    “HRRAAAH!” Gee, do you think that enemy did or did not get the point?

  • @monkey_blu

    @monkey_blu

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Why are you doing this?"

  • @anmolt3840051
    @anmolt38400512 жыл бұрын

    It blows my mind that 1000s of years in the future, some serious historian will inevitably analyse Blue eyes White dragon and Kobayashi's Dragon maid

  • @liammclin5722

    @liammclin5722

    2 жыл бұрын

    “So as shown in this ancient poster of some sort, they worshipped some sort of goddess with a snakelike tai and deer like horns. We have yet to translate these ancient Japanese runes, but we think she has something to do with the copious depictions of the goddess with cat ears.”

  • @annakaro9081

    @annakaro9081

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@liammclin5722 or they can just google the translation.

  • @emmanuelj670

    @emmanuelj670

    2 жыл бұрын

    Historical studies in the far future are going to be so much weirder.

  • @CJCroen1393

    @CJCroen1393

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine them thinking the dragon maid dragon was a fertility goddess because of her… well y’know, and pondering the connect BEWD had with Ancient Egypt.

  • @privatelast8724

    @privatelast8724

    2 жыл бұрын

    If I'm not mistaken, Konami made a series of yugioh cards based off Dragon maid

  • @rowdyriolu1
    @rowdyriolu110 ай бұрын

    I chose to do one of my speeches for a college speaking class on dragons, and I heavily leaned on this trope talk for inspiration! Thank you for the inspiration and the jumping-off point for research!

  • @Blokewood3
    @Blokewood32 жыл бұрын

    Though dragons are infamous for their diversity, some of the other monsters described here aren't quite as consistent as you might think. 1. Gryphons are pretty consistent overall, but some ancient depictions of them don't have wings. 2. The word phoenix was applied to other fabulous birds unrelated to the phoenix myth. The so called "Chinese phoenix" has no connection with fire. 3. In its earliest stories, the Kraken's defining trait was that it was so huge it could be mistaken for an island. Various stories depict it as a creature similar to a cephalopod, lobster, or whale, though eventually the cephalopod depiction seemed to win out. 4. Ancient Greek depictions of satyrs usually portrayed them as being a man with the ears, tail, and phallus of a horse. They eventually got combined with the Roman idea of a faun, which was half man, half goat.

  • @emmae2520
    @emmae25203 жыл бұрын

    Who else had all the Dragonology books and as a child was very invested in the taxonomy and evolution of dragons?

  • @ilikecookies9796

    @ilikecookies9796

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me. I loved that series.

  • @rationalroundhead6739

    @rationalroundhead6739

    3 жыл бұрын

    I found the comprehensive compendium in the book bus when I was a kid, and I got so exited because I thought dragons were real and this was an actual record of different types of dragons. I cried so hard when I read the part about extinct dragons because I thought it meant that I’d never get to meet a real-live Krakatoan dragon and have it eat out of my hands like the book said they did and have a cool pet mini dragon. I was a stupid kid. But I absolutely loved that book, so thanks for reminding me that it existed.

  • @hansruhlmann454

    @hansruhlmann454

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the original, and also borrowed one of the spin-offs on a library. It is a big part of my childhood.

  • @CJCroen1393

    @CJCroen1393

    3 жыл бұрын

    MEEEE!

  • @l30ng62

    @l30ng62

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ive got Two dragonology books as a kid and i loved them 🐉🐉

  • @timelordacaelus5959
    @timelordacaelus59593 жыл бұрын

    "Dragons are awesome because dragons have always been awesome." Best answer to any argument.

  • @the11382

    @the11382

    3 жыл бұрын

    But what about dragons?!

  • @the11382

    @the11382

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Amelia Darden Shad

  • @timothymclean

    @timothymclean

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Mister president, we were discussing the budget Congress submitted."

  • @timelordacaelus5959

    @timelordacaelus5959

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@timothymclean Yes. Who do you think we have managing the budgets?

  • @Punkmetric
    @Punkmetric Жыл бұрын

    In Hawaiiian mythos we also have dragons (Mo‘o.) But they're basically just giant scary geckos/lizards lol

  • @mentalmen111
    @mentalmen1112 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. I am currently in the process of building the foundatuion of a book series with a loosely defined dragon species as the central premise and this video has really helped me work out a couple of things and also caused me to consider or reconsider others and will go a long way to helping me with my project. Thank you. big, long-time fan and love the podcast too.

  • @tomnevins1904
    @tomnevins19043 жыл бұрын

    Dragons: Oh, hi- Storm Gods, already aiming their lightning bolts: Looks like you're going to the Shadow Realm, Jimbo. King Ghidorah, both an apocalyptically huge dragon and a storm god: Oh yeah, it's all coming together.

  • @Ismael-kc3ry

    @Ismael-kc3ry

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dany from A Song of Ice and Fire, mother of dragons and called “Stormborn”: I see no god up here other than me.

  • @hailghidorah2536

    @hailghidorah2536

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hola

  • @donotbreadthecats2261

    @donotbreadthecats2261

    2 жыл бұрын

    Storm gods be like “think fast” and then dumps a lightning storm on them

  • @senorsombrero1275

    @senorsombrero1275

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@donotbreadthecats2261 Quetzalcoatl, creator god and god of the wind (close to storms right?) watching from a distance: *tf they doin over der*

  • @JaelinBezel

    @JaelinBezel

    2 жыл бұрын

    So is this why Rathalos and Rathian are weak to thunder damage?

  • @Raptorman0205
    @Raptorman02053 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure that the whole Dragon taxonomy debate started because everyone bought that Dragonology book at their school's scholastic book fair and took it WAY too seriously

  • @CJCroen1393

    @CJCroen1393

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dragonology! That takes me back X3 That said, I'd argue it might have instead been due to that Animal Planet documentary about dragons.

  • @cuttlefishonfire7502

    @cuttlefishonfire7502

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember that book!

  • @ShaunCheah

    @ShaunCheah

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember trying to carefully tease open one of the sealed envelope elements so as not to leave any tears or damage the book when my mum came by with a letteropener like "oh I'll help with that" and just ripped the thing open. Almost two decades have passed and I'm still upset.

  • @Mirro18

    @Mirro18

    3 жыл бұрын

    God, let's be real tho, those books were rad and fun and they got me into that kinda thing for actual animals

  • @roaringthunder115

    @roaringthunder115

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah

  • @KennedyRose
    @KennedyRose Жыл бұрын

    I recently had to research Dragon mythology, and the amount of online sewage you have to wade through to find actual historical resources is mind-numbing. This was so holistic and concise, you make it look easy. Thank you and amazing stuff!

  • @coltonbell3806
    @coltonbell38062 жыл бұрын

    And The Dragon is >Yum< ingly bad ass, it doesn't need OSP to sing a song at the end.

  • @thatoneweirdasexual1404
    @thatoneweirdasexual14043 жыл бұрын

    “Dragon is noble steed” The horse from Journey to the West

  • @bow-tiedengineer4453

    @bow-tiedengineer4453

    3 жыл бұрын

    everyone up vote this till Red notices.

  • @Draxynnic

    @Draxynnic

    3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, it was turned into a horse first. Thre's also the longma in general.

  • @gokbay3057

    @gokbay3057

    3 жыл бұрын

    ... OH MY GOD, YES!

  • @guywhochangeshisprofilealo7163

    @guywhochangeshisprofilealo7163

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wished the dragon stayed a dragon I mean do you know how badass it would be to ride a dragon?

  • @pilgrimonthelongroad2875

    @pilgrimonthelongroad2875

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also the emperor of china, in addition to being a dragon, was also supposed to ride a dragon. Shiva and other hindu deities rode naga. The whore of babylon is associated with the beast, but I think she was also depicted as riding the dragon sometimes.

  • @King_CactusVods
    @King_CactusVods3 жыл бұрын

    One who stares?! That’s kinda boss! Like imagine a human just watching everyone else but he’s named dragon

  • @Duiker36

    @Duiker36

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that's basically what the Big Bad's Lancer does.

  • @quintonclothier6171

    @quintonclothier6171

    3 жыл бұрын

    The closest thing to this that I can think of is the character Monkey D. Dragon, the leader of the Revolutionary Army in One Piece. He mostly just watches, but if he stops watching, well, let's just say there's a reason he's considered the most dangerous man in the world. He was introduced early on, but hasn't done much. His underlings have popped up from time to time helping the heroes, and they are always powerful, but he mostly stays away. He has helped train one of the main characters, he is the father of Monkey D. Luffy(the main character), and has declared war on the World Government, so he is important, but still, he watches. I thought that the sole reason for his name was that he could control wind, but this seems like it fits as well.

  • @ponylover2206

    @ponylover2206

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know someone who’s named Dragon. He’s the most wanted man in One Piece and father of one of the main characters

  • @quintonclothier6171

    @quintonclothier6171

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Hans Hanzo In this instance, Kaiba wouldn't count, as I am talking about someone who lives up to the Greek meaning of Dragon, with that as his name. Seto Kaiba is closer to Iroh, in being an honorable Dragon, not someone named as such. Even still, he isn't a Dragon, he just likes the power they represent. Someone who fits more what you were talking about is (spoilers) Kaido, who can become a Dragon. He is ridiculously powerful, and people used to think that Dragon had the fruit that Kaido has. I don't really know where I am going with this.

  • @knixps4564

    @knixps4564

    3 жыл бұрын

    he's called God. its greek for we made it up.

  • @keziahavila4827
    @keziahavila48272 жыл бұрын

    >storm gods killing or being blood brothers with dragons >Dragon taxonomy not mattering because of how many things we've societally called dragons for so long already >Manifestation of human primal fears would probably involve more spiders So Freyja in Dark Souls 2 is the best dragon ever because she is a giant spider that is also a dragon, understood

  • @trickytristan1
    @trickytristan1 Жыл бұрын

    with the context that early dragons were related/connected to water it makes sense they would also have a relationship with storm gods, because in those early cultures the earliest cities were built around rivers, and storms are the one thing that causes those rivers to be a problem (via flooding). Seeing this translated as our water dragon/god figure being upset by a storm kinda makes sense with that in mind.

  • @erinhand6004
    @erinhand60043 жыл бұрын

    "They aren't real." Way to crush my childhood and adulthood in one step.

  • @peterbota1913

    @peterbota1913

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then go get a PHD in genetics, study CRISPR, find a wealthy eccentric to bankroll you in secret and Make Them Real! Eh, a sapient can dream

  • @commonviewer2488

    @commonviewer2488

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tell that to the Komodo Dragon and its venomous fangs!

  • @Mark_Goddin

    @Mark_Goddin

    3 жыл бұрын

    When I first had to confront this, I cried. I was 8.

  • @thearchitect2112

    @thearchitect2112

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Peter Bota with time and money, it is very likely that a dragon like creature can be made

  • @tiagodarkpeasant

    @tiagodarkpeasant

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thearchitect2112 even better, discover a creature that exists and nobody knows, write a book were said creature is a dragon, then reveal the creature saying "real dragon found in nature"

  • @emilyhelms-tippit4053
    @emilyhelms-tippit40533 жыл бұрын

    "sometimes, all the players want to do is save the beautiful dragon from the terrible princess." -Matt Colville

  • @kerentan9446

    @kerentan9446

    3 жыл бұрын

    wait-

  • @Horseshoecrabwarrior

    @Horseshoecrabwarrior

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like dragons. Lemme roll up a bard.

  • @Channel9001

    @Channel9001

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is the dragon sexy?

  • @hectorisraelalvarezespinos59

    @hectorisraelalvarezespinos59

    3 жыл бұрын

    You bet it's hot...

  • @lordofshades9852

    @lordofshades9852

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hectorisraelalvarezespinos59 FOOL! IT'S A MALE!