basically. everything, everyone, always uses a spear. spears are the universal, all race, all situation weapons. a pointy stick never fails.

@shadiversity

6 жыл бұрын

MAKE POINTY STICKS GREAT AGAIN!

@AnnaCurser

6 жыл бұрын

Ive watched all of your "what weapon would this fantasy race use?"-videos, and in everyone, a spear is a good choice. You dont need space to use it, got the range and physical skill/strength to use it too. It's simple enough and has all the advantages. Pointy Stick doesnt seem to have downsides.

@user-dq1fd9tp4x

6 жыл бұрын

I'LL FORM A GREAT SPEARWALL AND NOBODY FORMS SPEARWALLS BETTER THAN ME

@nathanbrent4295

6 жыл бұрын

Can you teach us to defend against pointed sticks? SHUT UP! Now when defending yourself against an attacker with a banana...

@matteussilvestre8583

6 жыл бұрын

DavionXY "Stick 'em with the pointy end."

Shad: "wings may get in the way when using a bow and arrow" Crossbow: *slides in Shad's DM's*

@davidgubbels1328

4 жыл бұрын

You have to use very much strength to reload, most of the times you have to use more than your arms to reload them

@ozkan576

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidgubbels1328 You can probably just get to a safe distance and reload if it's a relatively light one

@levieulalio359

3 жыл бұрын

Well, you could use your feet as they are only useful for standing up till this point. 😂 Even still, just do a glide by and you could still use a bow and arrow, doing circles angling one of your wing tips toward that general direction and firing a couple arrows.

@comradebork

3 жыл бұрын

The advantage of crossbows for Angels is that crosses are a religious symbol.

@davidgubbels1328

3 жыл бұрын

@@gamecavalier3230 yes, that could do the trick.

Shad: ...weaponize parts of your body closest to your enemy... Me: Sees spider on the ceiling. Proceeds to headbutt the spider.

@moogamooga2100

4 жыл бұрын

TechWizPC hHahaha!! 😂

@EmperorZoron

4 жыл бұрын

And that was how Spider Man was born.

@miguelmialichi6367

3 жыл бұрын

Then it is one of those which you smash a thousand little spiders come out

@Angatyr34

3 жыл бұрын

with a helmet - for sure.

@QuantumAscension1

3 жыл бұрын

It's Australia though, my dude. There's always a bigger spider...

Anakin Skywalker: Are you an angel? *Flechettes start raining*

@PunkZombie1300

4 жыл бұрын

*Dreg Heap Angels PTSD intensifies*

@marvcollins7842

4 жыл бұрын

(Insert mandatory high ground joke here)

@bradeki2997

3 жыл бұрын

Still a better love story than Twilight

@QuantumAscension1

3 жыл бұрын

"I hate flechettes... they're coarse, and rough, irritating... and they penetrate everything in the human body"

I like how Shad just casually invented birds of prey. "Give angels spiked feet" you mean talons. Birds with arms 2.0

@bubbaturps394

4 жыл бұрын

Wait no that's true

@bradyp8868

4 жыл бұрын

Soooo a harpy?

@ladymarcy7830

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradyp8868 Yep sounds like a Harpy

@davidm9612

3 жыл бұрын

I reckon giving them bladed greaves would be more effective, as on the off chance that they're grounded, it wouldn't effect their ability to land/run/walk, and they would still be able to make slashing strikes on their enemies with their lower legs.

@jetblade904

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradyp8868 or a garuda

Now I'm visualizing an angel tap-dancing over its victims with hockey skates. Fantasy battles just got 300% more hilarious.

@shadiversity

6 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha, lol, just add music and you got a new dance ^_^

@HappyBeezerStudios

6 жыл бұрын

And if angels fight against elves you'd see the angels dropping heavy and/or burning stuff and trying to kick the elves into the next world, while the later ones are ducking and running off to protect their precious population.

@lorenzogiani7190

6 жыл бұрын

Shadiversity Bloodet? Breakbones?

@Robert399

6 жыл бұрын

They'd need to have spear-length shoe spikes or else they'd be slaughtered by spears. And that would make landing again very difficult.

@Demonic_Culture_Nut

6 жыл бұрын

I will now write a story where angels use dance to fight.

Shad: "...the use of gravity..." Me: *instantly thinking of Narnia when the Griffons rained rocks on the enemy*

@myladychaos

4 ай бұрын

yo SAME!!

About the wings, one of my favorite writers "Raymond E. Feist" wrote in one of his books, that Demons who use their wings to fly, are mostly light-weighted and/or have hollow bones. The humanoid demons with wings, don't actually use them for flight, but are used to install awe and fear into allies and foes alike. Their fly ability is gained through magic.

@Bucket_with_a_hat

3 жыл бұрын

Eroldin - The Lord of Searing Flames I was abou to comment this. If Angels or Demons were to be truly capable of flight, they’d probably need to have hollow bones (which would limit their ability to fight by quite a bit). Besides most representations of humanoids using wings to fly in most mediums either flap their wings once and just kind of hover in the air, or flap their wings as if they were in slow motion. So yeah.....

@ViceN53X

Жыл бұрын

Winged Hussars basically

@nyalan8385

Жыл бұрын

@@Bucket_with_a_hat hollow bones would absolutely not hinder their ability to fight in terms of structural strength. Just look at the dinosaurs, theropods had hollow bones and most of them were predators, meaning their bodies had to be able to take a beating, especially looking at their prey. It would, obviously, effect how much they weigh, which would have an impact on combat ability

@kikixchannel

Жыл бұрын

Another option, especially true for the things like dragons (western dragons, since chinese dragons don't even have wings) is having gases lighter than air produced and stored in their bodies. I mean, that's a very practical thing to have for a dragon that may want to blow fire. A flammable, lighter than air gas. Of course it'd cost them the ability to fly temporarily were they to breathe fire too much...

@soleo2783

10 ай бұрын

​@@kikixchannelthats an interesting mechanic, dragon cant fly for a while after breathing fire. Thanks for the idea

What if it was a biblical Angel. Angel: (Has fifty spears float around it. It looks like a wheel with Eye balls.) Soldier: (Has tiny shield and leather armor.)

@charion4909

3 жыл бұрын

Angel be like "DO NOT BE AFRAID" Soldier proceeds to be afraid

@asshat8892

2 жыл бұрын

@@charion4909 the soldier shits his pants

@danielcooke3732

2 жыл бұрын

Hey I covered that...one maybe two weapons work The Spear that Pierced the Side Of Christ Azrael's Flaming Sword

@danielcooke3732

2 жыл бұрын

Lucifer and Michael can wield these weapons

@danielcooke3732

2 жыл бұрын

Don't get their bad side

a crossbow and a pair of ice skates, perfect.

@superfluous9726

3 жыл бұрын

Oh god no one remembered ICESKATES!!!!! But yeah sharpen those things and maybe lengthen the blade and you have a super deadly weapon.

@aubreyackermann8432

3 жыл бұрын

But then do they have to stop to use the ice skates? They'd have to land on someone to use them

Shad: “Wings are too small to fly.” Hummingbird: “Hold my nectar”.

@bradsimpson8724

4 жыл бұрын

I had a very similar thought, but it's because my neighbour is a beekeeper.

@Macrochenia

4 жыл бұрын

It's a matter of the cube-square law. Hummingbirds can fly on wings that small relative to body size just because of how small their body size is- there's a reason there aren't any hummingbirds the size of pelicans. You can get a flying creature the size of a human- some of the largest extinct flying birds had estimated weights of up to 180 lbs and the largest pterosaurs could have gotten up to half a ton. But the humanoid body lacks space to add all the musculature necessary to power such wings.

@mafioz333

4 жыл бұрын

@@Macrochenia Well actually Hummingbird have a unique flying... method? They are swinging in both directions and THAT keeps them flying so good.(and i dont actually need to write it, just look at slow motion of them flying)

@dr.stronk9857

4 жыл бұрын

the viper in the flower: I've been here 2 hours why won't it come near

@chickenking6420

3 жыл бұрын

Birds have extremely light bones relative too there body and wings but an angel doesn't have light enough bones for the size of the wings also humming birds flap in both direction and flap really really fast can't really do that with angel wings

Angel and demon : "i wish i had talons" Harpy : i wish i had hands Gargoyl : i wish my skin was soft Human : i wish my potential wasn't limited by my body's feature... Oh wait !

@quad-yt9km

3 жыл бұрын

helicopters: haha missiles go brrr

shad:an Australian:"when i see a spider in my house, i just use my hands!" in Australia...against spiders.....in Australia......shad,and Australian....uses his hands....Shad,i have a newfound respect for you.

@shadiversity

6 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha, lol, Straya mate!

@wolfmatic399

6 жыл бұрын

bullfrog reviews in Australia everything evolved to kill people. Remember after earth. That was an adaptation of an Australian wildlife show.

@Petq011

6 жыл бұрын

Australian ... "thinks" are NOT save to touch ! And Spiders are the least :D And I still wonder what would be the best weapon to use if I am flying and have to fight another flying humanoids cuz im most likely not going to be the only one that can fly!

@PauloGarcia-sp5ws

6 жыл бұрын

Australia is where all spawns of saitin developed. A lot of bugs there are massive, including the spiders. I would probably get my hand eaten by 1 of them if you tried to slap it.

@firetarrasque4667

6 жыл бұрын

Establish something: THERE ARE NEAR LETHAL SPIDERS THAT LIVE IN BASEMENTS. And not puny little spiders, NEAR TARANTULA SIZED THINGS.

Instead of a spear, I'm thinking a true war scythe might be handy for close up angel combat cause it won't get stuck and lost like a spear and offers some slash-ability without hitting the wings.

@geminiblue6677

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah i totally agree with this. Dive towards the ground and sweep upwards using a scythe / glaive /naginta. It would work similar to chariots, chinese calvary

@shanethebrownwolf5575

4 жыл бұрын

Scythe popped to my mind too

@spartanx9293

4 жыл бұрын

Give that warscyth to azrael

@VVayVVard

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't the opponent be likely to get stuck within the curve, when using a scythe? I imagine a glaive / naginata with a strong curve, or maybe even a chakram connected to a stick would be easier to 'roll off' the enemy after wounding them. And of course using poison or a venom to make it deadly would be a good idea, since if you used too much force you'd just knock yourself out of flight.

@DylanNeuschwanderComposer

3 жыл бұрын

@@VVayVVard I agree that a traditional agricultural scythe or the fantasy reaper scythe would be worthless in this situation, but Shad has a video in his "Under-appreciated Historical Weapons" series on the "War Scythe." This video depicts the war scythe with a blade similar to a glaive but instead it has a slight inward curve which I believe would still be straight enough not to get caught, but curved inward enough to cause more damage with less effort than an outward curve.

Despite how realistic it would be, I still laugh at possibility of an angel ice skating me to death

0:33 "but most traditionally, you'd think of angels and demons" Harpies: Am I a joke to you?

@jasonc4553

3 жыл бұрын

Harpies are no joke. Once they show up, you can't get rid of them.

@hemkae1357

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonc4553 terraria flashback intesifies

@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonc4553 especially if you have three that are siblings... and their pet dragon.

@ub-4630

Жыл бұрын

They don't have hands tho. What weapons can they "hold?"

The whole flechette/ missile thing reminded me of a Lindy Beige video about cavalry archers in which he pointed out that if you have an army of ranged, mobile units that rely on whittling down the enemy's troops, you wouldn't be able to defend any sort of objective. Just something angels might need to consider when making an army.

@kyomademon453

6 жыл бұрын

Allen Pumford but why would they hold a position when they can literally move anywhere? they could just swarm the enemy from any angle

@Photoloss

6 жыл бұрын

+Allen Pumford they wouldn't be able to hold ground in the traditional sense but their own homes need not be accessible on foot. Enemy positions should mostly be fairly simple to starve out and/or bomb, though a war against tunnel folk (LotR dwarves/goblins etc.) would be interesting.

@kyomademon453

6 жыл бұрын

Photoloss they could blockade their exits or just lay traps

@Photoloss

6 жыл бұрын

+ThatGuyYouKnow miner's folk would just dig new exits somewhere safe. If they survive on some mix of underground wildlife, coal, geothermal power or magic there'd be no starving them either. Dwarves in particular often have access to superior metalworking which might make them impervious to flechette attacks and gunpowder weapons that might be viable anti-air (poison fireworks more than bullets probably)

@kyomademon453

6 жыл бұрын

Photoloss any exit they dig can be see by winged creatures as they can scout the whole area, basically theyd be forced to never come out, plus lotr dwarves faced a demon and not even mithril saved them

Really? Nobody thought about the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?

@robrockstar9648

5 жыл бұрын

And then the medical bomber was born

@hybriddino117

5 жыл бұрын

We must count to 3 and only 3 no more no less

@Argonautx66

5 жыл бұрын

Brother Maynard remembers

@CUBETechie

5 жыл бұрын

Flachette this are like crossbow bolts.

@oanavasut1234

5 жыл бұрын

holy hand grenade kinda like in critical role...?

What about angels using a mace, baton, or a metal ball on a chain. That could work really well with the swooping attacks. Use that momentum to your advantage for blunt attacks.

@kwat8604

2 жыл бұрын

This is a great idea. It also eliminates the problem of being unable to get a spear or lance out of a target after skewering.

@rylandrc

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexandergreene461 Disarming isn't the worst result, and to be brutally honest this could happen with just about any weapon. A winged creature could fly away and come back with another weapon, or use a backup one.

@elivargas3094

2 жыл бұрын

A "good" example of this would be Gabriel from legion. His weapon was drastically more stylized and unrealistic but in conjunction with flying he used it to great effect. Another example would be the gargoyles from I, Frankenstein. They would use more close range weapons in their human forms and switch to gargoyle forms in order to execute much stronger attacks the more devastating of which were bigger weapons like maces hammers and axes. My point? Make the angel go bonk.

@dustinalexander9680

2 жыл бұрын

I am in complete agreement here. And I will go one up how about a hammer not a war hammer but a large mallet type. Because you are moving in 3d you don't have to work really at all to get the weapon moving gravity does that for you and being as how the surface area is so much larger it means if you should peirce the opponent it is more likely that they just explode.

In older dnd edition you can enchant weapons to return to you after throwing. Id imagine an angel could get something like that on their spear.

@stuitergames7628

Жыл бұрын

yeah let me just enchant my spear with loyalty III

@a.summers9180

10 ай бұрын

I think there's something (magical tattoo or magically marking?) in 5e you can get, making it so your weapon return to you like Thor's hammer.

10:00 There are TONS of reasons I could think of why they would want to go into melee: 1. Ran out of projectiles and still need to wipe out the enemy. 2. There is an objective they must reach that is at ground level (for example, one of them that was captured, a valuable artifact, etc). 3. Flying takes a lot of energy, maybe they need to swoop down and then fight on land to continue the battle. 4. The battle must take place indoors or underground. 5. The angel/demon was wounded.

@AdobadoFantastico

4 жыл бұрын

Still an awful, low tier strat. In those cases, they'd obviously just use normal human weapons with some consideration for the encumberment of wings. In general, it would be SO dangerous vs the alternative of waiting for an opportunity to drop pointy shit that it would be very hard to get anyone to do it. It would probably fall on small, specialized forces for when absolutely necessary.

@afinoxi

4 жыл бұрын

@@AdobadoFantastico Good heavens , imagine having to sword fight with plane wings on your back.

@lespy8996

4 жыл бұрын

Or fighting with another winged enemy.

@Illianor123

4 жыл бұрын

Butters 2. Time sensitive objectives? Possibly combined with lack of ammo. Or the enemy moving something into a stronghold and trying to stop that. What if they need to simply defend an area? Combined with lack of ammo? Armies may still need supply trains on the ground due to a lack of aerial pack mules? 3. What about small scale skirmishes? Or just any battle where reserves can be limited? 4. So they are great at sieges. Most sieges were attrition but some required frontal assaults, what would they do in this situation? Say enemy reinforcements were coming etc. Good enemy archers? 5. Ambushed? Aerial combatants on the other team? It seems you are the one who hasn’t been thinking.

@calebjackson3895

4 жыл бұрын

In each of those situations, they'd just use anything a normal human would use. These videos try to focus on each creature's advantages and disadvantages.

If normal bows are such a problem, then they could always use crossbows. or, going with the whole weponized feet thing, they could use bows with foot stirrups. then they could use very powerful bows, and draw with the entire length of their bodies.

@sassui90

5 жыл бұрын

Idk, they would have to be fairly close.. light projectiles + strong winds + long distances and they'll be missing more than a lancaster trying to hit german bunkers at night during a storm.

@sassui90

5 жыл бұрын

@Hræð Framhliðinni Wait what? are you really comparing them to a sniper rifle?... Yeah, cept the sniper ammo is ALSO light, traveling at subsonic speed (3.000 ft/s) or faster, sniper barrel is RIFLED, and scoped, and shot from a STILL position most of the time, affected by wind aswell AND they have more than 3 times the range of a crossbow... Marksmen are also not known for flying just saying.

@houndofculann1793

5 жыл бұрын

@@sassui90 Most sniper rifles (as most guns overall) fire at SUPERsonic speeds whereas all bows fire at subsonic speeds, over 900 m/s (or your 3000ft/s) is definitely supersonic, not subsonic, you might want to learn the correct terms. All sniper rifles are not scoped (and definitely no barrel is scoped). Rifling accomplishes the same result as the plumes in an arrow: stable, straight flight through circular motion so that's not exactly an argument. The rest of your stamenets do check out and I'm not disagreeing wiht you, but you should construct your arguments a bit better. @Hræð Framhliðinni Since general sniper rifle cartridges like 30-06 SPRG weigh around 26 grams with a bullet of 8-11 grams, and a war arrow averages at around 45 grams, your statement is just false. You could definitely carry more sniper ammo but an arrow would have far better damage potential thanks to gravity when shot from above. Both of you, however, fail to consider that 1) The flying people only need to fly above the range of normal war bows, and even slightly inside the range would be possible since the arrows shot upwards would have lost all damage potential long before they start to drop back down 2) The flying people can choose to fly straight above whatever they're fighting, resulting in their enemies potentially firing arrows at themselves and making aiming that much easier, in addition to minimising the range they themselves need to shoot 3) Attaching a bow to their feet would grant them the possibility of using arrows much longer and heavier than a normal warbow could manage, reducing the effect of wind on accuracy and greatly increasing damage potential for the increased gravity effect. Shooting straight down would also not be that much of a problem

@sassui90

5 жыл бұрын

@@houndofculann1793 Not really, i dont care enough about it to learn the specifics to the letter specially when my point was snipers being leagues different from bows, specially when its guaranteed someone will come up and point out whats wrong so yeah... but yeah it is supersonic. I never said ALL sniper rifles are scoped? and idk where in heavens you came up with scoped barrels but anyway And i thought we were talking about the people flying using the bows and not otherwise? ofc they're not gonna shoot straight up... eitherway, arrows are still too light and not incredibly accurate, fletching might help in ideal weather but the higher you are the stronger the winds, even if you compensate you'd need massive amounts for them to be effective at any decent height and even then they would not be efficient... Shad's suggestion of dropping heavy things sounds way more reasonable. @feet bows & heavier arrows No... that just sounds incredibly unpractical, could make it work sure but at that point you might wanna switch to something simpler...

@arronsmith8

5 жыл бұрын

There is a real world woman who can fire accurately a bow with her feet.

Multiple angels together could fly holding a big bag of flechetes by ropes, releasing one rope makes all the flechetes fall on enemy armies

"Fléchette" Me, a french: don't say fléchet... "Or fléchet maybe" He did it...

@ledocteur7701

4 жыл бұрын

a ce moment je me suis dis : hey ! ho... sérieusement ? fléchet ???

@user-vg6sg7kh1q

4 жыл бұрын

Actually we kind of say both dard and fléchette

@liquidsquid2306

4 жыл бұрын

Its the same in the german language but in germany flechet-te is also a valid pronounceiation

@biblebot3947

3 жыл бұрын

So how do you pronounce it

@chriscross7494

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKJqycqbpKiXadI.html

Now what about Pixies and other really small fantasy creatures? What would Tinkerbell fight with?

@AngronIsAngry

6 жыл бұрын

itching powder ^^

@toddsperling2047

6 жыл бұрын

I would say poison darts! Shad are you reading this?

@AngronIsAngry

6 жыл бұрын

are poisoned sandwich picks apropriate medieval tech?

@YaboiMuggy

6 жыл бұрын

I'd say rapiers to stab eyes

@toddsperling2047

6 жыл бұрын

If primitive stone age people in the rain forest do it then I see why not. Now with non-flyers like Smurfs I see trap setting like and infiltration.

'So, I got out my own bow for this analysis.' - A sentence I wish I could say

@nrm8831

5 жыл бұрын

The internet has bows

@bswtsp21

5 жыл бұрын

Go get a bow

*Any race is higher up than most humans whether from flying or just height* Shad: "weaponized feet"

"These wings are no where near big enough." I remember that Azrael in _To the Stars_ (a "fan fiction") had a fairly large room with "absurdly large pairs of wings" mounted on each wall. Combined with the fact that she's very smol and have light bones due to coming from a genetically engineered colony. Even then, she has trouble flying on Earth since her home planet had a very dense atmosphere that made it difficult to live on the surface at all, so she carries an anti-gravity device as backup. I can totally see her fighting with flechettes. For the record, she's from a colony of genetically engineered bird people who lived in a city in the sky on an alien planet.

the pointed stick: the pinnacle of weapons technology

what about flails? I've seen you mention flails in the nunchuck videos and how they were mostly only useful on horseback because on horseback they have the advantage of being a weapon that does not effect your own momentum and does not get stuck on enemies, and one of the issues you mentioned with doing a swoop was the likelihood of getting anchored to the target.

You may have to pull a Myth Busters and test if a flechette would pierce shield and armor, from a great height! I'd love to watch that video...

@matthewlong9369

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't need to, WWI did that for us, and yes, they have a terrifying velocity. There are pictures of flechettes that have buried themselves several inches into solid wood. It would definitely go through a wooden shield, even a heater shield. As for helmets, most troops in WWI used a helmet designed to stop shrapnel. Flechettes were still used, indicating that they were effective despite the widespread use of helmets

@fakecubed

9 ай бұрын

It's been done in real life, also the physics of it is pretty simple.

Shad, you failed to mention my "strafing run of Angels dropping sword pommels on their enemies" from the merfolk video... I am disappointed. Either way, this video boils down to all the flying races screaming "I have the high ground Anakin!" at every living thing they drop shit on.

Well...ice skates just got more deadly.

@tuffcookie8849

5 жыл бұрын

I just imagined an angel ice skating then taking to the air and killing everyone. Thank you for this

@Elyseon

5 жыл бұрын

@@tuffcookie8849 The really vicious ones become hockey players?

@NPC-W

5 жыл бұрын

that's what i am thinking

Surprised you didn't mention a crossbow, I thought that's where you were going with the "short powerful bow" bit. Seems like the perfect weapon for an angel or demon. Also not so sure I'd want flaming molotovs or fire in general anywhere near my feathery wings if I were an angel lol. Overall great analysis though! I love that you used some MTG card arts :D

@angeldude101

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, angel wings are probably relatively heat resistant whether because of the calculations of heaven being hotter than hell (look it up), or because the seraphim are a thing whose wings are _literally on fire._

@dougthedonkey1805

Жыл бұрын

I saw the innistrad Angel in the thumbnail and got way too happy

I feel like a javelin would be a really good almost compromise of sleek and hard hitting. And relatively accurate too. Javelin holster mounted on the center of the back would be quite light and could be accessed because it's behind the head area. They could also be used as a "spear" for melee even though they aren't quite "built for that". The introduced force from a swoop or dive would be plenty enough force to drive the iron through any breastplate or helm

It's over,I have the high ground!

@DoctorFail

6 жыл бұрын

ill try spinning! that always works

@kiddo6393

6 жыл бұрын

Capes are Cool you underestimate my power

@endlessfreedomful

6 жыл бұрын

girl angel should be super cautious with that swept attack from above, cause from the sketch, they are exposing private part seriously. so high ground doesn't work for girl wingers.

@aneitalt

6 жыл бұрын

@唐智余 It doesn't work for boy wingers too if that means their privates are exposed as well to any kind of groin attack.

@endlessfreedomful

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, but majority cases boy angels have armors covering that place, and you see the girl angle in the video, simply wears a shorts. so double risks I guess.

It seems to me you looked at angles/demons using larger bows in an odd manor. I say this because I don't think such creatures would aim directly below them when in flight. Such creatures could easily fly around their opponents in a circle, drawing the bow string across their chest just as normal archers would, but shooting from the side, at an angle, towards their targets, rather than from directly overhead. This strategy would be be very effective, as winged creatures would be in constant motion, effectively surrounding their enemies and cutting off any chance of escape if they were in an open field.

@Lunam_D._Roger

5 жыл бұрын

*angels

@lordcommissar7813

5 жыл бұрын

I agree the aim would be a bit poor but in a war situation a entire team doing this would basically be untouchable and with all those arrows flying you will diminish there numbers eventually. After there numbers are lowered enough you can overwhelm them easily

@scoobydoobies

5 жыл бұрын

This allows the angel to shoot while flying, but think about this: Do NBA players shoot while sprinting? No, they stop and pause. Imagine flying at ~100mph and trying to hit a target which is also moving.

@gorden1234

5 жыл бұрын

For swooping they could also use a mace this vid made me so made he overlooked so much

@gorden1234

5 жыл бұрын

@@scoobydoobies i tried sprinting around a tree with my bow to see if you were right and it's not hard it's not much harder that shooting normally just a bit different from normal shooting but not very difficult

Oh my god that's amazing my fantasy race is in a magic heavy world, and literally uses magic to make flachettes to rain on enemies (or rather, rapidly regrow feathers mid flight, making the older, looser ones magically hardened). I was actually on the ball there

Here's another thought: Full body bows. This would be a bow integrated into a boot that you basically aim with said foot. You load and pull back with a hand. The other arm would have the quiver strapped to it since your back is inaccessible for this and a quiver on the hip could interfere with the pulling of the bowstring. (It might need both feet to keep the angle steady enough, I'm not certain. In this case, the connected foot would be a few inches from the arrow in one direction while the aiming boot would go on the other side of the arrow and have a special notch in the side that would be used to line up the arrow.) The added benefit over dropping arrows, in addition to the obvious force increase, is the added ability to aim. Simply dropping something sharp will have a high miss rate as there are so many variables. You need to aim by aligning yourself with the target, but in doing so you then have momentum that changes the trajectory of whatever you drop. Also, they can use it against other flying targets. (Angels & demons often fight one another, after all.) Also for grounded targets, getting them into the sky and dropping them could be a potential tactic with the spiked boots. If they survive the impalement, bring them back up with you before letting them drop, hopefully landing on another target.

"We're good at butchering languages" *laughs in American*

@nicolasvillasecaali7662

4 жыл бұрын

that is next level expertise

*THEN THE WINGED HUMANOIDS ARRIVED!!!*

@matteussilvestre8583

6 жыл бұрын

*COMING DOWN FROM THE MOUNTAINSIDE!*

@QuinSkew

6 жыл бұрын

Paweł Andonis Gawralidis Dobrzański herbu Leliwa. Then the most powerful ageless god appears and decimates them all with a gigantic beam of energy.

@QuinSkew

6 жыл бұрын

I actually have a fantasy idea which in fact is actually sci Fi. Magic is just misunderstood science

@ulysses7157

6 жыл бұрын

I was going to say something similar

@Kronecraft

6 жыл бұрын

The true solution is _PEGATAURS_!!!

Other ideas: - a chain or rope with a magnet, to steal helmets - a rope with a nose (kind of lasso) to hang enemies - a pole with a blade, T-shaped like in "the pit and the pendulum" - jars with hornet nests, dropped from above - playing airlift for skeleton paratroopers (with rudimentary parachutes) - working in groups to throw large fishing nets or tarpaulins over troops - psychological warfare like urinating onto enemies, playing annoying instruments, or making them horny with some kind of airporn (if you are, say, a squadron of succubi).

@tristankadow3756

3 жыл бұрын

A pole with a blade is called a Naginata

@HappyBeezerStudios

3 жыл бұрын

Now I want to see that used in some role play: Angels throwing skeletons and pissing down on the heroes...

@thomassabalbaro1868

3 жыл бұрын

"some kind of airporn" a yes my favorite category on ph "air" not making fun or at least not trying to make you look dumb I just thought this was funny

@HappyBeezerStudios

3 жыл бұрын

The angelic trumpets may be motivating at first, but after 3 days without sleep your opinion changes.

@herrfantastisch7489

3 жыл бұрын

@@tristankadow3756 Not really. It's generally called a sword spear if we're being really general and the blade is like a sword. A naginata is not a classification. It's a specific Japanese polearm.

Well done Shad. I appreciate the time and thought you put into these. I like the flechette idea, though I immediately was thinking how hard it would be to accurately hit your targets from safe hight. Stones though less lethal would be cheaper for an army and the bludgeon damage can kill and main very effectively. Diving at an angle would build velocity and unlike flechettes stones that miss a target can bounce to possibly find a different target. Crossbows or javelins would also be useful. I mostly agree with your point about keeping the chest parallel to the ground but it would be possible to shift the body sideways and still keep the wings parallel to the ground, the wings have their own shoulder joints. Some sort of spike or blade attached the thumb area of the wings could also be useful in a melee situation. Flight muscles are very strong. I have more thoughts on this but I'll have to relate them later. Keep up the good work. work

A note to the "armed shoes part" : In most cases demons are depicted as creatures with hoofs which already are very nasty natural weapons. If they would add "horse shoes" with spikes and blades they would be even deadlier.

@dajohnniesanders9566

6 жыл бұрын

Not all demon have hooves

@DerNachtmar

6 жыл бұрын

Read carefully: "in most cases" .Thanks.

@apvtethic8818

6 жыл бұрын

DerNachtmar demons in many mitologyes also have horns on their face and on their forehead, they could also charge enemies like bulls

@DerNachtmar

6 жыл бұрын

@Yoshika Miyafuji Indeed. These could maybe even penetrate through armor or at least crush through the pure force, especially while flying. But as Shadiversity said, that demon would have to come in close and endanger themselve very much, considering the enemy uses spears and pikes, even more.

What about a mace? They are sliding down really fast so a mace vould hit like a meteor.

@gabbonoo

6 жыл бұрын

sooo... Hawkgirl? works for her but she has LIGHTNING BOLTS!~

@noah.bordon.99

6 жыл бұрын

Elliott Bohringer we shall put together the Justice League again XD

@gabbonoo

6 жыл бұрын

we now have a weak superman to complement our other less OP champs

@maximum-fo1uy

6 жыл бұрын

The problem with a mace is the excessive wieght that lets it hard also makes maneuvering harder. Then again... they could adopt a style similar to human air forces and have dedicated air to air and air to ground warriors.

@noah.bordon.99

6 жыл бұрын

it doesen't have to be a heavy as "duck" mace.

EASY! a 200+100 meters giant flail! Just imagine...

This was the very first video of yours I watched, quite a time ago and that made me subscribe to your channel. I just _love_ this kind of speculation and winged characters are among my all-time favorites so it was great to see all the images you used. So much MtG art! My suggestion is a stretch since is not an actual weapon: ball-and-chain. Not a _flail_ but a long chain, 2 to 3 meters, with a spiked ball on the end that would be used swooping against the enemies.

It would be so cool to see an angel/demon firing a bow, & actually timing the draw of their arms in-between the flap of their wings... Raise wings, grab arrow from back-slung quiver, Great big slow flap down, Draw--aim--release. Raise wings while grabbing arrow, Great big slow flap down, Draw--aim--release. You'd want a short bow for speed & let gravity help the force. We also have to remember that we're not talking about strapping a wing machine to a human, but we're looking at a 6-limbed creature, which none of us have experienced. One can imagine that coordinating six limbs really well could be attainable when you're born with them.

@andrewholdaway813

6 жыл бұрын

Luke Friesen It would be funny watching it reach back and finding all the arrows had fallen out on its last swoop. 😂

@loftygrinnersshell9240

6 жыл бұрын

Youre right though but what about gravity pulling you down with youre weight slow flaps will bring you down not to mention aiming.

@Marcusjnmc

6 жыл бұрын

or glide & fire more likely, then pull away

I'm pretty sure air-dropped flechettes were balanced to keep pointing down as they fall. As for spears, allegedly there are advanced lance techniques for pulling them out of the enemy as you ride by. Flying humanoids seem to have a lot in common with cavalry, actually.

@geodkyt

5 жыл бұрын

Light lances, as used for hunting, or the pre-stirrup period, or the 19th Century military lancers when they were light cavalry. Two frequent features of those types of light lances would be very useful for a flying humanoid. First, a simple penetrating point, without harpoon style barbs - a small leaf blade with the back edges sharpened as well would be *highly* effective, but a simple point would be nearly as good. Second, a longish thong for recovery. Used correctly, the lance itself can be released, and the thong held - the passing and the extra motion available by the flexible thong would allow the lance to pull back out and be readily recovered. To avoid the lance becoming an anchor or handhold, you secure it the way police are taught to wrap the things for riot control batons - so long as the hand is kept closed, the baton cannot be ripped away... but if the officer relaxes his grip, the baton will come away without yanking him.into the mob. (Basically, the loop.of the thong is around the thumb, and the thong is wrapped around the hand. Do NOT stick your whole wrist through the loop - that turns your baton into a leash.)

@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8

5 жыл бұрын

geodkyt so it’s fire emblems slim lance? that makes alot of sense now

@robrockstar9648

5 жыл бұрын

Would probably use multiple stages of attacks and tactics. Start with swooping or sopping we opens on the enemy to soften the up or get them to split into smaller groups. The go in for ground combat operation up. Of use flight for hit and run tactics.

@mrmarkov7656

5 жыл бұрын

A lance projects behind the user interfering with the wings

@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8

5 жыл бұрын

@@mrmarkov7656 yep, what if it was a shortspear though? I agree that carrying a large lance however would be unwieldy to use when flying with wings

I wanna point out your "quick scetch" looks actually really good :)

Thank for your another awesome and very creative video, it give me lots of ideas as always.

Your pronunciation of flechette is approved by a french guy who loves your videos ;)

@comradebork

3 жыл бұрын

But "fléché" had me spend half an hour digressing into facepalm memes. TIL that French for "facepalm" is "facepalm", and that Google Translate autodetects the language of "facepalm" as Bosnian.

I Really wished you had considered weapons that they could fight EACH OTHER in the air, like in a Angel Vs Demon War. Something like Crossbows come to mind, and maybe Halberds, since they have a spear point and can be use more similar to humans if the angel/demon are just hovering each other in the air in a 1 on 1 fight.

@TheNthMouse

6 жыл бұрын

Burnbegins, a lot of what he says in the video applies to the scenario you describe as well. See my general comment for ideas that might better appeal to what you are looking for.

@fizikshizik

6 жыл бұрын

The fight between two flying creatures wouldn't be just hovering near each other and fighting like humans. It would be more similar to the dogfight of two planes... or bird of prey hunt. You can find some videos of the cameras placed on falcons, extemely interesting. I think I recognize certain maneveurs I know from flight simulators like yo-yo. Now there are reasons why I think that crossbow would be almost useless. Dogfights even with targeting equipment are HARD - both shooter and target are moving in the air constantly changing direction. Historically even with machine guns it was not rare for air duels to end with both fighters spending all their ammo in vain. You may say that the speeds and distances involved would be much smaller however it's compensated by very low speed of the arrow and much higher maneveurability. And you have only one shot in practice, it wouldn't be possible to reload a crossbow in the middle of dogfight. The only way I see is to reach bad guy very closely and shoot then, but still the luck required would probably not justify extra weight and worsened aerodynamics. So I think that such fights would not involve ranged weaponry but instead some air melee. Spears and Shad's sharpened boots would be very useful. Again you can look for the videos about falcons with their claws to see how sharpened boots can be used in the air fight.

@davidbodor1762

6 жыл бұрын

Throwing spears would probably be effective both in air vs air and air vs ground. Plus it's good as a melee weapon too so I'd go with that.

@zombielizard218

6 жыл бұрын

Burnbegins Ah, but not all Demons can fly, and in fact a great defense against these flying opponents is to get a roof. I.E. Raising shields above your heads can easily help stop small projectiles.

@gogroxandurrac

6 жыл бұрын

I think the bladed boots would be viable for killing other airborne foes as well, as it's how birds kill each other. Putting the blades below the feet instead of in line with them might be a better idea, but that could make landing difficult if they can't control the direction like talons. They could also have weaponized helmets to mimic beaks, but that's a dangerous weapon to use as a battering ram where legs are designed to absorb impact. Giving the angels bird-like spines that are much better at absorbing impact from the face could be an option, but humanoid angels would find kicking to be a better option, IMO. A lot of the benefit of polearms is the reach and the ability to maneuver the point while you're not in danger yourself. That becomes much less of an option when you're diving at your enemy. The wings also get in the way of maneuvering the polearm in general, making it less wieldy as you've got to move it more directions with more limited movement range. There's also the difference in formations to consider. They'd be more likely to follow bird/fighter formations of a wedge, making it more similar to a cavalry type charge than an infantry one, making longer weapons less viable as you're following the length at full speed.

Thanks for the vid. Writing an urban fantasy novel with angels and demons, trying to figure out what they'd use. I only have one thing to say/ask which is, what do you think flying humanoids would use on each other in something like aerial combat where range is not necessarily an option.

Honestly, just dropping rocks would be incredibly scary.

Medieval Europe had gunpowder and cannons as early as the 14th century. The angels could just drop bombs on the enemy.

@Karak-_-

3 жыл бұрын

Holy hand granades?

One weapon that I think you have overlooked (also thought about it for the Smallfolks video) is the Naginata. This is a japanese spear-like weapon designed for slashing instead of thrusting. Also, shoe weapons could be attached and de-attached mid-flight and kept in a bag or on a pedestal during landing and takeoff, making them more convenient

@punbug4721

5 жыл бұрын

When landing, the creature could flap its wings (or possibly just hold them there to act like sails) while leading into the landing with the heels. This should give them enough control and slow them down to the point where they could land safely.

@maiqtyson3278

5 жыл бұрын

Ya I personally feel weapons like the naganata would work much better for these creatures. You have range✅ you have the ability to go into melee for slashes and cuts on a swoop attack run✅ you get the best of both worlds at that point. Plus, have you ever been going really fast on a bike and broke on the front wheel really hard? For a shoe weapon it’d be the same thing. It’d be much better to simply grapple a human, rip their weapon out of their hand, and drop them from a considerable height. It’s a great way to ambush

@qdaniele97

5 жыл бұрын

Spears would be great precisely because they are used for thrusting and you don't need to move them around, just point it forward and strike. Moreover, you probably want the most simple spear that can be effective against enemy (AKA even full-wooden spears if they don't have metal armors) since it's very likely that you would lost it most of the times you strike (you don't want to crash on the ground every time your spear gets stuck in something or someone). For a flying winged-human, a naginata would be even more impractical to use than a sword since it's: - Even longer than a sword... - ...But mostly useless in thrusting; - Very complicated to craft (you don't want to lose it!); - The sharped edge of the blade is in the inside of the curve (so, even if you manage to slash with it, it's very likely you get stuck if your strike wasn't absolutly perfect).

@G2000TEK

5 жыл бұрын

Or a Halberd

@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8

5 жыл бұрын

G2000TEK that’s meant to be used on horseback or in tight formation, flying around with one would be hard

Shad: Angels cant use a bow because drawing a bow will mess up their flight. Me (an intellectual): So... a crossbow?

@VVayVVard

3 жыл бұрын

A crossbow where you load the string with a rotating mechanism would work.

@comradebork

3 жыл бұрын

The advantage of crossbows for Angels is that a cross is a religious symbol.

@Darthwgamer

2 жыл бұрын

And I mean Heaven could be more further in the future so ya they could have these kind of holy crossbows, while the demons I guess would have a horrifying one.

@JarieSuicune

2 жыл бұрын

@@comradebork Which is absolutely disturbing, since the cross was a cruel method to inflict a torturous death. NOT something that should be used to represent life, hope, light, etc. Under that reasoning, it would make far more sense for demons to use crosses than angels. A circle representing the tomb (or eternal life) would make far more sense for a holy symbol.

@redchris1252

2 жыл бұрын

or a gun

I once had a battle in my Rolemaster campaign where one of the players' allies were Hira'razhir, a flying race of humanoids with hollow bones. They used specially constructed crossbows designed for flight. They took two rounds to reload, so they were divided into three squads, so in any given round, one third of their force was firing bolts while the others were reloading. The result was devastating to the enemy as they continued to lay waste to the enemies ranks. In conclusion, crossbows are a super effective weapon once they are modified to prevent the bolt from falling out and they still allow aiming, unlike flechettes. I'd love to hear your thoughts Shad. All the Best.

So what you're saying is they should all be wearing stiletto heels?

@KairuHakubi

6 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised at no point did I think about harpies. No arms there (usually), and the feet are usually drawn as grasping eagle talons which can certainly slash and pierce too (even if harpies are usually meant to be vultures and thus their talons aren't good at grasping).

@azuregriffin1116

5 жыл бұрын

Fun fact, "stiletto" is Italian and means "little dagger."

Did you come up with this on the fly?

@matteussilvestre8583

6 жыл бұрын

Did you just...

@BenniBodinJagell

6 жыл бұрын

Matteus Silvestre Yes, yes I did.

@meris8486

6 жыл бұрын

No but the angels would have to

@CRYOKnox

6 жыл бұрын

BBJ Music i allmost laughed, but at least i felt flappy...

@zacharyrandolph9396

6 жыл бұрын

BBJ Music ba dum tss

I feel like the scythe would work well, same as he said in his giants video. A traditional scythe and just swoop low. Youd still be able to stay relatively out of melee and you could keep speed since you could swoop down quickly and and then back up and repeat

8:00 I've heard of these things before and if I remember correctly they're supposed to be very good at piercing through armor so even shields probably wouldn't stop them since any shield thick enough to do so would be inhumanly heavy

14:26: You're crazy, I use bug spray and if that doesn't work, a flamethrower, or simply burn the house down.

@LecherousLizard

6 жыл бұрын

Do you use combustible lemons for that?

@Thatoneangrygirl

6 жыл бұрын

should have throw a pommel at it

@olliebirdy6120

5 жыл бұрын

@@LecherousLizard I CAUGHT THAT REFERENCE!!!!😂 *high-five*

@Dy4tvrzasp2n

5 жыл бұрын

Overkill!! Best kind of kill!!

Can’t use bows? Why not a crossbow? :v

@styxxiii

5 жыл бұрын

Because, loose arrows.

@robertocortez8087

5 жыл бұрын

Especially a one handed crossbow

@Skirakzalus

5 жыл бұрын

They'd be at a disadvantage for aiming as they'd either be flying around very quickly or, if hovering, still would have a lot of vertical movement. Their most precise and deadly ranged attack would be to fly up high into the air and then strike down towards a target and throwing a heavy item at them. Wouldn't even need to be much of a throw.

@Specter_1125

4 жыл бұрын

They would have to land to cock a new bolt

@levitatingoctahedron922

4 жыл бұрын

try loading a crossbow while suspended in midair

There are some interpretations I've seen where winged creatures with bows will fire while falling and then start flying again after, but I'd image that would be crazy difficult even with super strength and senses.

Interesting video. I wonder, however, about aerial fights between different fractions of angels or demons or angels v. demons etc. What weapons would make most sense when both participants can fly?

What weapons would they use against each other? (Edit/updatete) What about the dragons? No im *serious...* would flying hunanoids use a blunderbuss early renesaince firearm called dragon?

@shadiversity

6 жыл бұрын

Same answers in general in my opinion; small bows or crossbows, spears and weaponize shoes.

@terrynewsome6698

6 жыл бұрын

Paweł Andonis Gawralidis Dobrzański herbu Leliwa. most likely muskets or crossbows do to the distance from one another.

@indianmartialartsresearchg9728

6 жыл бұрын

Shad, a tiny bit off-topic, but did you used to watch Pugwall?

@kylie_h1978

6 жыл бұрын

How do you think would Nets would fair as a weapon against each other? Something designed to attack or tangle the opponent's wings would seem to be a logical choice.

@matteussilvestre8583

6 жыл бұрын

Kylie H I think firing a ranged weapon at the wings would be better. A net would require getting pretty close to the opponent.

What about a long flail or chain-like weapon for swooping attacks? Just hold it underneath as they glide just over the reach of the enemy and let momentum and gravity do the work and you can keep reusing it. Or imagine just a long chain with a few spiked balls at the end (basically just a altered version of a flail)

@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8

5 жыл бұрын

wouldn't it whip around in flight during swift aerial maneuvers? Possibly even hitting the user?

@lordcommissar7813

5 жыл бұрын

@@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8 I don't think it would hit the user but I can see it getting stuck and dragging the holder down

@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8

5 жыл бұрын

@@lordcommissar7813 or they would be lose control over their flight and randomly sway as the flail, well flails

@Khajitxi

5 жыл бұрын

If anyone blocked the spiky ball the back would bounce off and be extremely dangerous to the flyer since it could hit their wings.

@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8

5 жыл бұрын

Khajitxi well it's not made of rubber, it will most likely be made of steel or something like that so it won't bounce, but it might make them really cumbersome and slow when carrying it around, and most medieval archers were competent enough to shoot down small birds so a human sized flying combatant with huge wings and flying in one general direction should be easy to snipe(insert Pegasus knight joke here)

@Shad Considering how you depicted the Angels to fly paralel to the ground, the closes bodypart to the next target would be the Arms. It would probably be best to give the Angel/Demon a Handblade, Reversed Wolverine claws or one of the Warcraft "Demonhunter Glaives", although less Fantasy-Design. A adapted Billhook(Onehanded Tool, not Polearm, although their top part would also work with many of the designs ) would also work rather well and could be used bot on the hands and the Legs Basically everything that would work as a draw-cut, rather than a real slash, because it has a much lower risk of you getting stuck/getting violently stopped, which could result in you losing the part that got stuck

"the types of attack that would be less vulnerable to getting stuck in enemies would be slashes, or cuts" Mace cries; forgotten.

@VeritasNumquamPerit

3 жыл бұрын

Too heavy to bring on flight. The momentum disturb flight stability

Turtles would be a great weapon. Even more so if your enemies are philosophers.

@lucasfourneret58

6 жыл бұрын

I understood that reference

@NurseGundam

6 жыл бұрын

I never believed in Om more than when that tortoise suddenly replaced that guy's head.

@benjamindover6949

6 жыл бұрын

Giant scissors.

@lenastorm6280

6 жыл бұрын

Lucas FOURNERET I understood THAT reverence!

@mindofthelion712

5 жыл бұрын

What was that guy's name?

Shad: "These wings are no where near big enough." Me: Ha! I knew it! My winged Dwarven Archangel with massive wings was right! Seriously, people, give your winged characters/creatures BIGGER wings. It looks awesome, too. As for flying out of reach bit... My Dwarven Archangel likes close combat. He can fly, sure, but what true Dwarven warrior flies around out of his foes reach like a beardless coward? Not him. Screw risk.

@spiritvdc5109

4 жыл бұрын

Yea people tend to forget that birds have wings roughly twice the length of their entire body, so for a humanoid to achieve flight they'd need like a 24' + wingspan lol

@kchgamer1788

4 жыл бұрын

You better use him as a dwarvern cannonball. If he’s going to take damage he might as well do it on his terms

@HappyBeezerStudios

3 жыл бұрын

With a massive spiked helmet the dwarven angels dive down onto their enemies. They are known to count their shashliks and the one with the most darkelves on the pike will get the prime cut.

@ccaffie1231

3 жыл бұрын

@@spiritvdc5109 what if you made the person themself smaller?

About going to melee if you can fly, it depends on other factors too. Last time I played D&D 3.5, I made a raptoran cleric and I was by far the tankyest guy in the party (even widout using all my buffs, I was above the warrior by 5AC), and for me, my capacity to fry allowed me to always be able to reposition myself in a way to protect my allies. About using a bow, if you can fly parallel to the ground, you can fly towards the target and hold the bow "above" your head and pull the arrow towards your feet, or you can fly sideways to the direction of the target and use it quite normally, exept you'd be horizontal and need to glide for a little bit. The raptorans use the bow in flight against lower targets by holding with the feet (other races could attach it to the feet, if they can't hold things with it), pull with the hands and shoot while making a "dive". About spears being a one use thing, if you use one with a relatively short point and a stopper, it would probably not become stuck that frequently.

I see very clearly the points on weaponized feet and the concept of keeping the distance with "gravity empowered projectiles", but as far as we restrict to "hand melee weapons", i think glaives/naginata and such weapons with long blade at the top of a stick would be much more effective on "passing by attacks": as the spear they have the reach advantage and doesn't need to be swinged a lot (you can adjust the flight to do a slashing movement, maybe a complete torsion on the body center when a more strong shot is needed) and you can benefit from the slashing weapons "not remain stuck" advantage.

A winged humanoid could certainly use a bow brutally and effectively. They would fly to safe locations and stand there firing as they're protected by winged allies drop crap on the enemy. You want out of the box thinking there you go. The advantage? Even against an opponent that can adapt and negate your flight advantage they can't adapt to an attack on multiple fronts.

@fraur001

6 жыл бұрын

David Roberson There is a reddit page for it: www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/78yvem/rps_to_shadiversitys_video_what_medieval_weapons/?st=JD2UUTZ1&sh=92c68491

@jooneyfrye3642

5 жыл бұрын

BUt you still need to stand still right? Well he's analyzing it for the sake off utilizing their flight component. So yeah still useless in that context.

@Burn_Angel

5 жыл бұрын

Hit n' Run strategy with a bow doesn't need a creature to have wings at all. I can picture centaurs pulling it off pretty easily too.

@punbug4721

5 жыл бұрын

True. You could essentially paradrop yourself behind enemy lines (provided they can't also fly). Can you imagine the potential for night raids? My god, that would be deadly!

Your first way of saying Flechette (the way u stuck with) was correct.

@TheAftaaa

6 жыл бұрын

Mad Bats par le pouvoir de la flesh it haha

@misterdinner3648

6 жыл бұрын

The laws of english cause it to be pronounced that way actually, so most people say it like that, unless youre american, where the term niche is pronounced nitch.... at this point american might as well be its own language.

@Yal_Rathol

6 жыл бұрын

Mister Dinner i believe you mean "nii-sh", because that's how i, a canadian, pronounce niche.

@christopherfassett9973

6 жыл бұрын

yeah... anyone saying nitch is wrong, even in English it should be neesh

@Yal_Rathol

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Fassett it's the most egregious example of adding a sound i've ever seen, and i have a friend with a gaelic name.

Hi Shad, you forgot to talk about the effort required to fly, it might not be energy efficient to use flight in the way you presented. Maybe using flight primarily for dynamic reposition to high ground or other tactical advantages might be a better bang for the buck. Thus ranged weapons like a bow or cross bow might still be a good option for many battles. 😁

For range crossbows if want accuracy and crushed glass or poison powder deploying crop duster style, heck you could just have one rain flower and another dropping something to ignite it. For melee/swooping a chakram type weapon that can be fling while passing and has a rope or cord attached so can retrieved and used again.

What about flails? Or crossbow? trowing spears would work too, but it adds more weight than flachete. I think best way to look how would angels fight is to look at birds of prey. On singular target they just dive and use blunt force to deal a concussion/killing blow. Most often with legs, but they don't have arms. So they would use some kind of weaponized shews, or flail/hammer with longer reach. Spears would be useful in ground attacks and also aerial combat. And of course lets not forget the ability to shit on the opponent. This would not deal great amount of damage, but it surely would demoralize and spread diseases among enemies, especially on open wounds. And what about naginata and similar type of weapon??

@bcn1gh7h4wk

6 жыл бұрын

two angels with a long spiked chain, one to either end, sweep down, and through a formation of soldiers. yep...... like jelly on a toast.

@Zulikas69

6 жыл бұрын

wouldn't some "prey" get stuck to chain and then weight them down. Yeah another problem with this video- we didn't determined how strong is their lifting power, how much can they take with them in to the air? In some stories angels easily lift a human up to the sky, but that doesn't seem realistic. But hey, neither a human who can fly with such a small wings. The only way for such small wings to generate enough lift is to flap them like kolibri does.

@foxgaming4984

6 жыл бұрын

I think the biggest problem with the Flail would be the shift in weight that would occur.

@Zulikas69

6 жыл бұрын

@FoxGaming thats a fair point. It would be a pain in the ass to learn and use a flail. But it is the same with humans. Flails are generally harder to learn and master compared to other weapons.

@linkolek

6 жыл бұрын

@Nighthawk Maybe rather a metal string, like wire cutters? I doubt it would work against well protected enemy, but it would be useful for dealing with regular people / fleeing enemies / mages quicly

Throwing pommels from the sky would be fatal!

@Carlos-ne3zf

6 жыл бұрын

Mlg pro player 291 fatal and rightly

Shad you should analyze the weapons in Zelda: Breath of the Wild. There’s a wide variety for all the races in the game.

I like these vids, really like the logical thinking used in them, wish they would do more of that in fantasy/fiction. The idea of an angel using weapons is a nice idea, they have an incredible advantage compared to normal people, that being flight, but instead of using weapons, I think it'd be a better choice for angel to act like Mercy from Blizzard's OverWatch and be medics; swooping in and either taking injured people to safe places for them to be cared to or just flying down, caring for them, can moving onto the next injured soldier.

Interesting video, but he only talks about what a winged type of warrior would use against humans. I wonder what they would use when fighting each other? For instance, what would angels use against demons or vice versa?

@g00st62

6 жыл бұрын

alaskamark456 spears? Seems to be the only reasonable weapon, I dont think the would be able to keep flying while performing a sword battle like in some storys. It would just come down to a dogfight of who can stab the other person first in the ass.

@nielss5945

6 жыл бұрын

Angels fight with "magic". Why would these so called more evolved creatures fight with primitive weapons?

@Burn_Angel

5 жыл бұрын

What kind of question is that? Angels fight demons with the power of *F* *A* *I* *T* *H*

@Burn_Angel

5 жыл бұрын

Sara I think it's obvious that geisti was talking about a one-on-one fight. Being "defenseless" is not a problem when your opponent is already dead.

@Burn_Angel

5 жыл бұрын

Sara Well, I guess that one angel/devil wouldn't be the only on their army. Also, taking in mind they can, like, FLY, then can move in a 3D space (unlike us, they could not only move forward, backwards, left and right, but also up and down), so it'd be easier for them to dodge an retreat when that happens, so they can either prepare a side arm or use a ranged weapon.

Would a crossbow not work?

@animistchannel2983

6 жыл бұрын

Yah, they could strap a crossbow to their shin and aim with their leg, leaving both hands free to reload and draw it. That was my thought. Even a light crossbow shot from on high would have great penetrating power, and the bolts are light-weight. They could do a mini-swoop while they are still at altitude, and raise their knee up to aiming position... literally raining down destruction. Custom flame-oil tips and etc could be used.

@adamerk31

6 жыл бұрын

animist channel Thank you.. say i dono if he forgot the option (I think likely as he seems very intellegent from previous videos) or if it was a bad option

@gavinjenkins899

6 жыл бұрын

But why?Big heavy crossbow, its purpose in the first place is to accelerate projectiles. But you get your acceleration for free up in the air, so why bother? Cranking up a crossbow takes ages. Grabbing and dropping a flechette takes 1 second. They may even due to terminal velocity have literally the same impact speed.

@drizzt7dourden7

6 жыл бұрын

yes but only directly below you. light crossbows would give you angled attacks and thus reach while still getting a lot of power with the combination of the acceleration of the CB and gravety. of course it would have to be pretty light CBs or they would need some kind of tool helping with the reloading during flight (for example having the CB attached to a harnish to free up your hands) also all of that is kinda depending onthe fakt that the wings have a fixed oriantation relative to the body. quite of then in fantasy angels/demons etc have wings with variable oriantation witch would allow them to "stand upright" while flying. this would add much more versatility to the crossbows.

@gavinjenkins899

6 жыл бұрын

You can throw a dart sideways, dude. It will arc parabolically and end up having much more sideways range than throwing something on the ground, from really high up. Otherwise just fly over to the side more. Definitely not worth all that weight, cumbersomeness, and reducing your rate of fire by like 20x

Aside from circling above allowing a side angle to use a bow, if your wings are strong enough, you could just armor your wings and use them instead, or maybe just the gust from your wings(or maybe air displacement?) would be enough to knock people back or down as it is strong enough to lift a humanoid..

I realize I'm a bit late to the party here, but I just discovered this wonderful channel. Watching your video, I'm surprised you didn't consider blunt force weapons like a mace, flail or morning-star. Swooping down gives you quite a bit of speed, allowing you to hit your target with a great deal of force, but you don't need to worry about aiming for gaps in the armor, then you fly back up to prepare for another attack. In a sense, it's using gravity to your advantage, like a flechette, but you're not limited to a certain number of attacks.

In reguards to your drawing (wich is really good btw!) Woulnd't having a skirt or dress be kind of awkward for you as you're always higher than who you are fighting ? Also what about dragons ?

Clearly the most effective weapon would be stockpiling pommels to drop on the enemy to end them rightly.

@jaiell2049

6 жыл бұрын

Tank 1900 like a blunt flachette

@MegaMementoMori

6 жыл бұрын

What about the holy hand grenade of Antioch(tm)?

@ottovonbismarck7646

6 жыл бұрын

I can't avoid this damned meme.....

Shad, Thanks for stipulating that fantasy flying humanoids can vary a lot in attributes. I absolutely agree fantasy rarely get wing size right. A thing to consider in these videos is tactics. Dropping weaponized objects on your enemy would be ideal for winged humanoids if they can find or lore their enemy into an open area. Any grounded humanoids with an ounce of survival sense would quickly seek to obtain shelter even under the canopy of trees if nothing else. To try to get the flying creatures to come to them. Even fighting from the ground I could see an advantage for these winged humanoids. They would have the ability to move around the battle field(s) better than calvary. I imagine guerrilla warfare. Fly ahead of your enemy to set up an ambush with ranged weapons. when the enemy starts to rally (if they do) retreat to the air where they can't reach you. Fly away dropping whatever you want on their heads as you go. You could harass them with just a few of your number letting them know they are being watched. While others are setting up other ambush sites, flying ahead to take out the bridge. Flying back to attack your home while you're away knowing you could never catch up to them in time to do anything about it. etc.

About ranged weapons. There’s a big issue with aim that gets much bigger when you add a significant limitation onto your ammunition due to its weight. And considering the fact that in most settings winged creatures are of much lesser number than most other races, they cannot really defeat the enemy army with one flight. Going back and recharging will take a lot of time, because you cannot quickly ascend to the altitude safe from the longbows, it takes time and distance. So winged creatures would obviously use ranged weapons for often and very dangerous skirmishes, but when they land back they’d become extremely vulnerable for the counterattacks. Thus I can easily imagine them deciding to perform a surprising smash attack with spears and glaives on the enemy troops, counting more on their superior speed rather than keeping safe distance on the air.

In the bible angels are terrifying and strong as fuck.

@Ragnarok2kx

6 жыл бұрын

Well, yeah but angels in Semitic lore are less winged humanoid and more Lovecraftian Horror, at least when they're not in disguise as shiny humans.

@apvtethic8818

6 жыл бұрын

big mike in the Bible there is also said that Jesus can summon "Legions of Angels". This makes me think that the majority of Christian angels usually do not fly and do not use wings, and in war they fight like a roman legion.

@chimmy___

6 жыл бұрын

And they use swords of fire

@riskybiznu9729

6 жыл бұрын

Angels were sexless beings of power in Abrahamic religion and it was not till the European that they were given wings.

@ladyalmaixztelliatheslayer2390

6 жыл бұрын

+Unanamis Awesomnes seraphim and cherubim are described as having wings, though the first is set on fire and the second has wings covered in eyes so still a far cry from 'pretty winged humanoid'.

Hey! That's Avacyn on the thumbnail!! 😃😃

@shadiversity

6 жыл бұрын

Magic the Gathering for the win! Hearhtstone if for NOOBS!!!! That's right interned, I SAID IT, get TRIGERRRRRRREEEEEEDD!!!!!!!!

@connerdale4221

6 жыл бұрын

+Shadiversity Whoa Shad. Calm down. Take a chill pill

@JunHector

6 жыл бұрын

Shadiversity You said it! \o/

@Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God

6 жыл бұрын

+Shadiversity Activated abilities of creatures cost {1} less to activate. This effect can't reduce the amount of mana an ability costs to activate to less than one mana. Why is that for noobs? lol

@vladvoinea2025

6 жыл бұрын

there was also serra angel in video (i believe this is how its called)

How about a whip/flail hybrid of some sort? Imagine a ball of metal attached to a whip long enough to outrange pikes. You would fly over an enemy formation and swing this thing through their formation from a safe height, knock someone's head off their shoulders and pitch up for another go. The ending could be improved to prevent getting stuck in the target and forcing you to drop the weapon, while at the same time it should not rebound in an uncontrollable way so that it would swing behind you and around your wings. I think that this latter issue could be solved by attaching something that delivers pain significantly below its actual center of mass (imagine a quarterstaff on a rope).

I have an Aarakocra barbarian NPC in my D&D campaign whose signature weapon is a glaive. She's particularly fond of using it like a lance and charging her enemies or, since it has a 10 ft reach, gripping it near the back and using her momentum to slash. It's also a high magic setting, so she has magic guns (basically laser weapons) at her disposal, as well as the spells bestowed upon her by her patron. Eldritch Blast for the win.

As a French listener, I can say that you correctly pronounced the word "fléchette" congrats Shad, good video by the way :)

Next time on Monstermusume Battletactics: Nagas and Lamias. Snakewarfare!

@livedandletdie

6 жыл бұрын

HungryHunter, Next time on Monstermusume at the morgue: Naga and Lamia autopsies. So that's how they work?

@HungryHunter

6 жыл бұрын

MAGIC!

@gabriel300010

6 жыл бұрын

oh god.

@gabriel300010

6 жыл бұрын

btw lamia and centaurs are the best combo for cavalry.

@HungryHunter

6 жыл бұрын

becouse the centaurs carries the lamia who in turn do the poison damage?

On the matter of a bow, I mostly agree. A long bow has to be drawn across the body. However, I think it might be possible for the winged person to draw the bow while making a banking turn so their wings are perpendicular to the ground/target. Also, they could possibly briefly tuck their wings during flight to fire off the shot. Of course only being able to use the bow in these instances would limit their rate of fire and allow an observant opponent to anticipate their shots. Also being able to only make one shot on one target for each pass would make it their volume of fire very low. They would still have a range advantage and being on the move would make it hard for grounded foes to effectively return fire.

One thing I was starting to think about with their bow and arrow, and like you said, they can not shot forward as they are gliding/flying forward... But what about strafing? What if the angels fly more towards the left or right of their intended target, and shot towards the side they are strafing the enemy. This way they could feasably pull the bow, and maintain momentum as they fire their arrows. They would obviously have to train to A: Aim with the idea that they are sideways. B: To lock their wings in a glide at the moment before releasing the arrow. But, in theory, it seems like they could effectivlet make good use of arrows, and basicly circle around you while they deliver all their arrows down upon you... So yea, pretty effective it seems. :P

I'd go with an iron ball on the end of a long chain. Just dive in, release, and bank away. Once it smashes into your target, reel it back in to prepare your next dive bomb. Doesn't even have to be very big, about the size of a fist would pretty much destroy people. This way you maintain a degree of range and don't have to worry about ammunition.

@totoru4ever

6 жыл бұрын

My first thought too, too bad I haven't seen your comment before writing my own :)

@charlieward5439

6 жыл бұрын

or a glaive might work too

@jasonaxle9412

6 жыл бұрын

What about a long chained flail? I think that would be really nice.

@reactiegever1986

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think the weight would work with flying.

@gijoe2284

6 жыл бұрын

Might also be a tricky-to-use weapon that could easily damage the wielder's own wings.