*a group of adventurers walk into a cave and find a nobless door blocking the way. They decide to knock. It's a Minotaur with a door for a shield.* There's a DnD encounter idea

@Jackb290

6 жыл бұрын

Dev Lightning can I use that for my story

@TheNiksa11

5 жыл бұрын

Dark Souls 3

@giulioaprati338

5 жыл бұрын

Dev Lightning very good one

@MarkATorres1989

5 жыл бұрын

Me: Ye adventurers see a door in the far end of the corridor. Player1: I advance to open the door. Player 2: I look about to check any traps in the corridor. Player 3: I turn around to check our backs for possible ambushes. Me: Very well, 1 as you approach the door, 2 is now certain there are no traps within the corridor. However, 3. you realize the entrance behind you has suddenly shut. Players: Oh no... well guess we have to move forward- Me: Then as you turn, 1... you notice that the door before is closer now. Player 1: What? Me: In fact the door is getting closer to you as if picking up speed. Player 2: A mimic? Me: You hear distinct heavy footsteps of something big and heavy. Player 3: I roll nature to figure out what it is!?! Me: You think there is something strong enough to hold the door and it is charging at you. Players: What?!?!?! (players got impacted and smashed back as the door hits them) Me: It stands with notable horns on its bull like head, towering over 1 despite him being a barbarian. Wearing scarps of armor that is poorly mismatch but mostly due to its sheer bulk and size. In one hand... the door it greeted you with. On the other hand. A fearsome looking mace with spikes. Players: A Minotaur? Me: A Minotaur with a Door.

@simoneriksson8329

5 жыл бұрын

Genius! Not only using the door as a shield but as camouflage makes this idea even more effective!

You know, I just realized that I have some knowledge that might be relevant to discussions of minotaur combat. I grew up raising cattle. 1) In regard to the effectiveness of a goring charge, very effective. I was gored by a nasty Holstein steer, right in the gut when I was 14, so I know what I'm talking about. Bodies getting stuck on the horns are very unlikely because the horns have a naturally smooth, in some cases almost polished texture. Also, the horn will not necessarily penetrate. It varies between individual animals, but some horns are actually quite blunt. In those cases, it would function more like a (historical) warhammer, focusing the force in a small area, breaking bones and damaging internal organs without breaking the skin. As far as the head being exposed, it isn't that much of a problem considering the thickness of a bovine skull. 2) In regard to the increase in strength relative to size, there is a biological justification for this. There is a gene mutation which causes a phenomenon known as "double muscling". An entire breed of cattle has been created around this trait, the Belgian Blue. Google it. 3) In regard to eyesight, there is an often overlooked fact about the eyes of many herbivores. In addition to being oriented more toward the sides of their head, the pupils are often slitted horizontally. This can afford up to a 270 degree field of vision. True, there is less overlap between the visual field of each eye, but this just means that the binocular field is somewhat narrower. They are still fully capable of judging distance, it just may be in a 30 degree arc vs 60 degrees (arbitrary numbers chosen to illustrate) 4) In regard to the NEED for armor, many people use the words "thick hide" as a lazy justification. Take it from someone who has skinned, literally, hundreds of animals, a sharp blade will pierce it easily. The only animal I ever had trouble penetrating the hide, was a bear. 5) Coming back to the issue of musculature, there is one thing many people don't know about cattle. The powerful leg muscles that aid in a charge also mean that they can JUMP! I have personally seen a young, healthy, Hereford bull jump over a 5 foot high fence like it wasn't even there. That's impressive for an animal that weighed 3/4 of a ton. Conceivably, a minotaur could leap right over the first rank, landing in the middle of the group and lashing out wildly on all sides. 6) While not universal, most fantasies depict minotaurs with hooves. It cannot be underestimated how devastating a kick can be. I suffered a dislocated knee and fractured patella from a Charolais once, and he was barely half grown 7) Fun fact, cows kill more people every year than sharks. That means that you should be less scared of a shark-man than a minotaur

@foolslayer9416

5 жыл бұрын

Wait, would a female minotaur have one pair or two pairs of breasts?

@lred1383

5 жыл бұрын

@@foolslayer9416 Idk, but either way that is gross and i don't like you for putting that image into my head

@foolslayer9416

5 жыл бұрын

@@lred1383 It's biology, put on your grownup pants

@lred1383

5 жыл бұрын

@@foolslayer9416 Still though... the way i initially imagined it was like some really disturbing fetish thing, and now, even though i rearranged some aspects of that image, the first impression still haunts me.

@wizardtim8573

5 жыл бұрын

@@foolslayer9416 Minotaur anatomy is often a blend of human and bull. So I'd say either works honestly, though in terms of fantasy depictions they often only have 1 pair (the males almost always have a human torso and 1 set of breasts, so females would likely follow suit).

MIND THE DOOR! MINDDEDOOR! MINNODOR!! MINOTAUR, MINOTAUR! Guy traumatised when confronted with the door assault could only say "Minotaur" afterwards, hence the name.

@tylerduncan1657

5 жыл бұрын

This is a bad ass comment, you just made my fucking night. Thank you

@gaia9020

5 жыл бұрын

perfection

@GreenLanternCorps2814

5 жыл бұрын

Still better than the conclusion of Game of Thrones.

@krkrbbr

4 жыл бұрын

Norville Rogers Thank you for the enlightenment thee bestowed upon us oh wise one we truly are blessed by your dumbfuckness

@LadyGameshine

4 жыл бұрын

@Alexander it is a joke they're aware it isn't the real reason behind the name

Minotaurs using axes is actually cultural, as the symbol of the Minoans/Greeks is the Labrys Axe.

@readmarx420

2 жыл бұрын

Not the point of the video though

@dango470

2 жыл бұрын

​@@readmarx420 kinda relevant though Minions literally made up the minotaur Look at the extreme diversity of weapons used by human beings all over the globe and timespan. Most of the time, "what is the best weapon" isn't an answer of fitting a thing to biology. It's a matter of environment and resources, logistics and convenience, and culture (aka, skill transfered over generations). The spear and shield is the best weapon combo, and the sword is a sidearm for personal protection, yet look at where the romans took it

@iamasalad9080

Жыл бұрын

@@dango470 Minions!?

@dango470

Жыл бұрын

@@iamasalad9080 yeah some of their experiments really got away from them. dont ask how they got the human-bull hybrid, you dont wanna know

@remingtonwright6796

Жыл бұрын

Which, like the bearing sword, was so large and inefficient to make and weild, it was more of a status symbol or a ceremonial piece

Man, finally after hours and hours of going around in this labyrinth I have reached the exit. Now let me just open this door and...

@liviutampei7235

6 жыл бұрын

jezzbull RIP

@bray2964

5 жыл бұрын

Beautiful

@arcallium

5 жыл бұрын

Is there a door though...

@haillobster7154

3 жыл бұрын

You'll be missed.

@Otto_Von_Beansmarck

3 жыл бұрын

Some... Body once told me the world was gonna roll me

The image of a Minotaur running into a village and ripping a door off of some poor peasant's house to use as a shield is quite funny.

@scojo6373

6 жыл бұрын

He's not there to window shop for weapons, he's there to door shop for a shield.

@BullDogBreed75

6 жыл бұрын

would make for an interesting insurance claim that's for sure

@Th3Sw0rdB3ar3r

5 жыл бұрын

Peasant: Oy! that's my door! Minotaur: ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAR! Peasant: okay okay you can keep it!

@angeltales748

5 жыл бұрын

Minotaur: haha door! Peasant: I guess it was time to move out anyway Minotaur: *smashes peasant with the door*

@peeblekitty5780

5 жыл бұрын

Heyyy don't mind me im just gonna take this and go, ok thanks cya

Minotaur guarding a labyrinth: tears off a large door and breaks off a hinge to use like a gladius “I DON’T NEED A WEAPON...MY LABYRINTH IS MY WEAPON!”

@carbon1255

4 жыл бұрын

I can just imagine "WAGA WAGA WAGA" as the ensuing chase occurs through the labarinth as the hero collects coins.

@benthomason3307

4 жыл бұрын

how the heck could a hinge function as a gladius?

@animeotaku22

4 жыл бұрын

@@benthomason3307 You're not being creative enough. Anything can be a weapon if you're creative enough.

@ladymarcy7830

4 жыл бұрын

@@animeotaku22 You could use a toilet as a weapon if you were smart and creative enough

@AmadisLFE

3 жыл бұрын

@@ladymarcy7830 Uh, well, I.. I guess you aren't.. wrong.

I can imagine that after this video was released, a lot of DnD players found themselves facing Minotaurs with doors.

Adventurer 1: Look! That wall is closing in. Adventurer 2: No worries, It's the classic moving wall trap, we have 5 minutes to solve a puzzle. Adventurer 1: But it's moving VERY fast. And I don't see any puzzle. Adventurer 2: Maybe we have to find a trap door or... Oh f#@k it's nearly here! Adventurer 1: It's not a wall, it's a shie... *SPLAT*

@shadiversity

6 жыл бұрын

I love this so much!

@datkhornedog899

4 жыл бұрын

Me: *Eating an orange near their corpse* I warned you both, but you didn't listened.

Wow, can you imagine the tower shield as part of a war tactic for a race of Minotaurs? Just a frontline of 7-8 foot tall beasts charging full tilt into the opposing army with giant shields in front of them blocking arrow fire and whatnot. That would be devastating.

@nicholasroberts8378

6 жыл бұрын

Shardalon welp it sounds like the oppenet army would need to just carry loads of siege equipment like ballistas, trebuchets and so on BC a tower shield Minotaur charge is basically a moving wall.

@aero5560

6 жыл бұрын

Or... You know... A charging line of doors

@Just_A_Dude

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but the front line is supported by a bunch of archers firing javelin-sized arrows from outside your retaliation range.

@TheLostArchangel666

6 жыл бұрын

Shardalon Total War: Warhammer's beastman faction needs this... Lol

@nicholasroberts8378

6 жыл бұрын

Just A Dude That's when you bring in horse archers to harass the archers. Also tower shields are fairly cumbersome even with their increased strength the tower shields are being built to their size so they will obviously be heavier than a human tower shield so combined with armour you just kite them till they tire, and arrows are not unending and have infinite range. I still believe most siege engines would out range Minotaur Bowmen, or have equal range at the least, and since siege engines like ballistas and trebuchets are meant to do damage to multiple targets from great range while a bows accuracy decreases with greater range. One thing that I feel would work against Minotaur Bowmen, which would depend on the setting, is that cows are natural short sighted, not talking about eyes on the side just the eye muscle in general, which means long range weapons and not real suited for the Minotaurs.

Random Dungeon Adventurer: "Hey, is it just me or that door in the hallway getting close to us really fast?" Veteran Adventurer: "It's the minotaur! Rrrruuun"

12:33 : the minotaur git gud "knock knock" "who's here?" "THE DOOR!" *slam

@mywayfernandez8704

3 жыл бұрын

ASDF!

12:40 "a flat type object that is readily available" no, he doesn't mean a... "it's the DOOR!" at that moment i almost spat out my cola and thought back at a recent D&D session, where our Goliath party member used a door to help the party advance against a tunnel of enemies. gold!

"Hey Ivan what happened to your door?" "It was ripped off it's hinges during the night by a Minotaur." "Wait WHAT?!" In the distance a Minotaur is running away with a door as a shield. Now people should fear Minotaurs not just for their brutality but also for their tendencies to rob people of their doors. Great. Also sounds like a great start for a D&D quest. lol

@josephvickrey5396

4 жыл бұрын

I'm stealing this.

@zachnerdydude6605

4 жыл бұрын

charging at someone with their own door as a shield

@Casedilla73

3 жыл бұрын

Pesky bird minotaur

@FrostE789

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephvickrey5396 Just like the minotaur.

@Gottaculat

3 жыл бұрын

New quest started: A Knight of Hard Knocks

"As you step into the room, the walls begin to close in on you! Make a Perception check" "25?" "The walls just moo'ed at you. You realize you're trapped between two minotaur shield formations."

@datkhornedog899

4 жыл бұрын

Me, recently enters the Labyrinth: *Shoots one Minotaur with flintlock pistol at the leg* How much damage?

@commenturthegreat2915

3 жыл бұрын

@@datkhornedog899 You miss, the bullet bounces back and hits your knee. You are now a guard.

@datkhornedog899

3 жыл бұрын

@@commenturthegreat2915 *As a Chamberlain (Senior Officer) of a distant Kingdom's main household, I brought a few Guard Regiments with loaded cannons to the Labyrinth*

@SIRJACOBSTINE

2 жыл бұрын

@@datkhornedog899 must be real unfortunate to learn that a dragon that happened to be passing by burned them all to a crips right after you entered the labyrinth.

@datkhornedog899

2 жыл бұрын

@@SIRJACOBSTINE ..... *1 modification later* *Literally brutalising said Dragon with the cannon in melee, while constantly rolling 14s and over* I've been through Valhalla, and learned the art of fighting with a cannon.

Minotaur : Knock knock! Human Peasant : Whomst be there? *BASH* Minotaur : THE DOOR!

Its funny, for a professional, the minotaur with a door on his left hand is so much more fearsome than a classicly depicted minotaur.

@jayeisenhardt1337

6 жыл бұрын

Until you realize that gets in the way and they can't kill you as easily and you feel safer. They don't lower as much to get more mass and power behind it and it deflects you off to safety instead of being gored or trampled. You might break a few bones but they have to line you up just right and can't see you from behind it. Still like getting hit by a truck, instead of a train. Without it he would be doing donuts on your face. It does make more difficult the best maneuver to defeat the charge, jumping the bull.

@PlayerSkillFTW

6 жыл бұрын

Shields themselves were pretty lethal weapons. The "Deadliest Warrior" series did a test with a Spartan shield, and found that a shield bash from it hit with the same force as a 30 MPH car wreck. The shield actually turned out to be one of the deadliest pre-firearm weapons they ever tested. Now imagine a shield bash/ram from a 6 foot Tower Shield/Door with a 7-8 foot, 600+ pound creature behind it. Good luck jumping a 7-8 foot man bull with big horns on it's head.

@tecwynjones6532

4 жыл бұрын

@@PlayerSkillFTW Just to add that they're also most likely in a labyrinth, which means that the walls got to turn at some point. This means that the charge won't just hit once, but twice, thrashing the skull, ribs and pelvis against the hard surface of the wall. Pretty brutal stuff.

@datkhornedog899

4 жыл бұрын

Counter Charge!!! *Charges with Demoknight Set*

"Close the door Ned, that'll keep the minotaur out!" --Farmer Bragad, last words

Now my players will surely die... and its all your fault...

Imagine at the end of a labrynth you see a door, you walk up to open it and suddenly you get rammed by it Minotaurs are becoming the new mimics

@hasanmuttaqin464

3 жыл бұрын

oh shit

@link113gaming

Жыл бұрын

Im using this in my next dnd campaign

Shad always makes me crack up whenever he reaches ideas that will just doom hypothetical opponents to embarrassing deaths. Giant with sling and scythe? Check. Minotaur with tower shield? OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHHOOOOOOO CHEEEEEEECCCCCK!

*watches first video* 'hmm... Shad didn't get super worked up and excited, I wonder if he missed something.' *watches second video* 'That's better!'

Guest: Is this the door to the bathroom? Me: actually - Guest: * opens door * Me: - its a Minotaur.

Man After a Long Day in the fields I can't wait to go home and, *Sees my door is gone* That Damned MInotaur, DAMN YOU MINOTAUR, MY FATHER MADE THAT DOOR FOR ME.

Ah one of those youtubers who actually do something with the opinions from the comments, and use it to expend their own knowledge. Great work btw!

@bretonic1812

6 жыл бұрын

It reallly feels like there's a great connection between shad and his audience.(=

@mlmf2012

6 жыл бұрын

Yup, i suggested a towershield in the last vid, pretty sure im not the only one. Though a warhammer with massive strength imo mihgt be better than axe

@jtnoc5927

6 жыл бұрын

It probably would be if they need to pummel something huge. For human size opponents, the shield should be more than enough.

Shad: 'There is a weapon that would work really well for a charging minotaur' Me: he's going to say a shield. Shad: 'And a minotaur has access to a decent sized shield' Me: he's going to say a door. :D Could you imagine though? One night a minotaur walks into a small village knocks on a random door, the villager answers grumbling about how late it is. As the poor villager turns white, the minotaur says "need shield" rips off his door and walks away. XD XD XD

@krankarvolund7771

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think the miotaur will ask, but it's pretty funny XD Or just, the minotaur came, rip the door, and when on the morning the village wake up and see that a door is missing, there is just one drunk to said "There is a giant cow, she ripped the door and go back into the mountains" XD

@Shardalon

6 жыл бұрын

Oh heck yeah. Like a wandering good guy minotaur, sees a threat, knocks on the nearest door, yanks it off the hinges when the owner answers, is like "sorry, bring it back later". Next day there's a beaten up, blood spattered door crookedly shoved back into the doorway.

@sompret

6 жыл бұрын

If they were a playable race in Divinity: Original Sin 2, that could very well happen.

@GnarledStaff

6 жыл бұрын

Zachary Irving I picture the characters from Looking For Group webcomic, fits several of them perfectly.

@aloysiusprasetyo3737

3 жыл бұрын

Peasant in fantasy setting have it rough with Goblin Raid and minotaur stealing your door

Thanks to this video and the previous one, I made a D&D encounter for my friends that were taken for a ride. Me: Ye adventurers see a door in the far end of the corridor. Player1: I advance to open the door. Player 2: I look about to check any traps in the corridor. Player 3: I turn around to check our backs for possible ambushes. Me: Very well, 1 as you approach the door, 2 is now certain there are no traps within the corridor. However, 3. you realize the entrance behind you has suddenly shut. Players: Oh no... well guess we have to move forward- Me: Then as you turn, 1... you notice that the door before is closer now. Player 1: What? Me: In fact the door is getting closer to you as if picking up speed. Player 2: A mimic? Me: You hear distinct heavy footsteps of something big and heavy. Player 3: I roll nature to figure out what it is!?! Me: You think there is something strong enough to hold the door and it is charging at you. Players: What?!?!?! (players got impacted and smashed back as the door hits them) Me: It stands with notable horns on its bull like head, towering over 1 despite him being a barbarian. Wearing scarps of armor that is poorly mismatch but mostly due to its sheer bulk and size. In one hand... the door it greeted you with. On the other hand. A fearsome looking mace with spikes. Players: A Minotaur? Me: A Minotaur with a Door.

I feel like Shad should be a talent agent for fantasy creatures. 😆

OMG that depiction of a minotaur charging through a labyrinth with a giant shield is scary as hell! Okay, yeah, I think it goes without saying that the best possible weapon for a minotaur to use, would have to be... a Browning .50 Calibur Machine Gun. (With a heavy tower shield in the other hand of course.)

@justaguest5540

5 жыл бұрын

If your giving your minatours a .50 cal machine guns, well... I’ll be handing out some auto-loading grenade launchers, proper metal bullet-proof shields with proper heavy armour and as backup would be some small maces (which can also be stun batons if need be) This way they’ll hide in their shields, lay down “artillery support” blowing up any humans crazy enough to either hide in a defensive location or charge right at them. And when their out of grenades, expect my heavily armoured minatours to charge right at them at full tilt in heavy armour, “Stun-maces” and proper steel bullet-proof tower shields. (Just some thought I had about what a modern-day minatour would use)

@lawrencemorris2261

5 жыл бұрын

@@justaguest5540 that would cost a lot though. But with some good innovation you can make some cheap and very effective arms for a mino. Even better would be defensive, since they are built very bulky and robust. They might be slow but they could carry a lot, meaning you can put something heavy over it, and it won't have a problem carrying it. But that's only if it is crossbreed between a dextrous adaptable man and an ox artificially selected over decades to carry heavy things long distances. Another huge advantage would be the collar bones, but I don't have enough battery time to explain that.

@kj12351

4 жыл бұрын

@@lawrencemorris2261 Slow? 500-1000kg Running 35 MPH! How is that slow?

Holy cow (pun intended). I am going to give a Minotaur a door in a future campaign.

Especially if the door has an eye-hole to look through while charging

Since the Minotuar originates from Greece I think Greek weapons would be a good fit The Hoplon shield with an over sized Kopis or Xiphos if the Minotuar is smart enough he would still go for a Greek Hoplite weapon set

The poor villagers will probably be really frustrated that some beasts always steal there new doors:D

Shad man can you imagine how much more terrifying dungeoneering would be if you go to open a door but it's a trick from the minotaur and the door pulls back and this giant axe swings down on you. Thats like built for a D&D encounter

@shadiversity

6 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha, now all dungeons doors are going to have aggressive ill-tempered Minotaur behind them!

@MrKitsune9

6 жыл бұрын

06arnoldcharles I was just thinking about that

@sertaki

6 жыл бұрын

I will sooo steal this to unleash hell on my players at some point. Great idea! :D

@shadowgear7032

6 жыл бұрын

06arnoldcharles I have a better idea. Who needs the Roman legion. I'm going to have some big bad tame the minotaurus and turn them into a standing army. On the planes. What is going to take down a minotaurus in heavy armor with a tower shield and a gladus charging across the planes in formation.

@sertaki

6 жыл бұрын

Gandalf. Gandalf would stop them.

The best weapon for any race is a tactical mind! In a fantasy tactical rpg context with a race of Minotaurs could have an equivalent human intellect or if not; they could be domesticated as soldiers in a human army. One weapon system no one has mentioned is that of siege engines! Even with minimal intelligence a group of Minotaurs can be directed by a human officer to operate simple siege engines like ballista or catapults or just to push siege towers or battering rams. On a basic level Minotaur can combine the role of beast of burden and a laborer! Think of the field fortifications the romans made use of at the battles of Masada or Alesia! Human ingenuity + Minotaur strength = OMG!!! If given appropriately sized slings and heavy shot, Minotaurs could rain down a hail of devastation equivalent of small catapults with very little technical resources. Of course Minotaurs would make excellent shock troops combining the mobility and momentum of cavalry with the defensive and cooperative potential of a phalanx. Since bovines are herd animals a phalanx would be a natural extension of their instincts. Even without weapons they would be formidable in a stampede. Given The sarissa (long spear) and xiphos combined with a roman scutum (tower shield) a Minotaur phalanx would dominate most other foot and give heavy cavalry a run for their money. One thing I know is I wouldn't want to be down wind of the Minotaur latrines.

@alvinsanchez967

5 жыл бұрын

In AD&D campaign setting Dragonlance, on another continent has a minotaur empire similar to the Roman Empire.

@dragonheart1236

6 ай бұрын

Something similar happens in Wrath of the Righteous, a Pathfinder game. During one of the sieges, a defense you come across is a set of heavy duty catapults being operated by lesser giants.

Shad, your integrity is what keeps me rabidly subscribed. Well done.

also man really appreciate you doing this it shows great humility

@bretonic1812

6 жыл бұрын

Ayy two hearts and a pin im doing great today thanks man your great (=

@windhelmguard5295

6 жыл бұрын

still would have apreciated a mention of helmets during the armour section, with a neck as huge as the ones minotaurs are usually depicted with, it would be able to comfortably carry one really massive helmet to protect it's skull and maybe even reinforce it's horns. imagine a king comissions the construction of a labyrinth and wants a minotaur guarding it, he would make damn sure that this minotaur is as well equiped as it gets, massive reinforced shield, thick heavy helmet (perhaps even reinforcing the horns with steel fitings), shin guards with sharp pointy bits, to fully cover it's body gaisnt anything that might be lurking arround in there, and a mace, axe or sword to complete an unstopable package of death.

@randybowen4675

6 жыл бұрын

A flanged pole-mace, a decent spike or short thick blade, langets and four curved quilions, long leather wrapped handle with riveted, weighted(?) pommel. length debatable.

@resart5445

6 жыл бұрын

IntoBeyond *in battle

@adrianglennbionat

6 жыл бұрын

It's really hard to take in that those snobbish Europeans think so lowly of Chad. Their all claiming to be more "legit" and "authentic" just because they were born in the old country.

Great set of videos. I like the sword and large shield combination as well. I just wanted to mention in regard to the stereotypical two handed axe that there is a good reason for the link. The Minotaur of legend was associated with King Minos of Crete, the name being related to both Minotaur and the pre-Greek Minoan civilization of Crete. The Minoan people had a prominent weapon, that was ceremonial if not used in battle, which was a double headed axe called the Labrys. The Labrys is linked to the Minoan word Labyrinth, which is the home of the Minotaur. So it seems pretty reasonable that the Minotaur should use a double headed axe, the Labrys. Maybe he can use it one handed and use a shield in the other hand. I know that isn't what these videos are about, but I just wanted to mention it. Pardon me if somebody else mentioned it earlier.

@a.g.m8790

6 жыл бұрын

Wow. I love finding these quick little history lessons in comments

@Wirrn

5 жыл бұрын

This is what I was going to add. The labry's that existed were very clearly not weapons at all, but do appear to be symbols of power, so its easy to see a Minoan Minotaur using an axe for that reason

@StarboyXL9

5 жыл бұрын

I always pictured a Minotaur as wielding a two-handed (even for him) massive double-sided battleaxe that is literally so big the Minotaur can cleave/crush a fully armoured knight in a single blow. At the cost of being vulnerable because no shield. I mean, trading a shield for the ability to one-shot your enemies seems like a half-decent trade off to me

@tobek284

4 жыл бұрын

I intended to mention this too, but was beaten to the punch. I'll just point out the obvious symbolic and ritual nature with the curved axe heads of the labrys representing horns and power, magically speaking. Excellent and informative post.

Thank you so much for this video! I actually used the minotaur with a tower shield idea in my Pathfinder campaign yesterday and it was a ton of fun for me and the players. The party just couldn't fight their way past him thanks to the huge shield, so to get by they ended up having to bribe the minotaur with with booze.

Oh my GOD, you got me really hyped up when you were describing the minotaur's fighting style, I'm definitely saving that image in my head. Just found your series, and I am in LOVE, this whole series is amazing for me as a DM.

Now I have the image of a minotaur smashing humans just with a door stuck in my head XD

Hey shad, at the 9 minute mark you go into how ramming with horns is not a very good use in how they could get stuck ect. From being on an Australian farm with bulls as a kid, i saw them sometimes use them for ramming but not very often. They mostly used their horns for moving objects vertically. with a flick of the horns. This is when they were actually angry and trying to cause harm to another bull. For example if a Minotaur is fighting an opponent, they might gore a person and flick their body into an upright stance again to basically open their body up. That's how real bulls seem to fight, that vertical cutting motion. As you said this exposes them, but it's a far more useful tactic then ramming. Shields could be disarmed by this particular movement too, as the Minotaur starts with its head down and flicks it up to remove weapons and shields.

@portsouth

6 жыл бұрын

Well would this go back to the question of what kind of horns do they have?

@jayeisenhardt1337

6 жыл бұрын

Side or forward facing? The side ones charge maybe the forward facing flick? Sometimes see them charge and ram people into the ground then start flicking to gore their guts out. I guess if they stick out to much it keeps them from doing that well.

Well now my players are going to get gorrila tactic'd by a minotaur hiding behind a door, charging then throwing the door and retreating to the next door. When the PCs figure out countermeasures, I'll just make him hide under a large table and do the same thing.

ngl i would love to see a creature like a Minotaur, a troll, or an Ork utilizing a door as a shield

Still no mention of maces, clubs, or warhammers. If they weren't in a confined space, they could use their strength and bulk to wield blunt force weapons much more effectively than smaller creatures. A minotaur could be more effective against an armored human while using a hammer rather than a sword. They'd just crush the armor around the human inside.

@shadiversity

6 жыл бұрын

Very true!

@ColtDouglasMusic

6 жыл бұрын

In my response to Shad I said clubs would be great.

@alt-bringer5198

6 жыл бұрын

my thought is that for the most part, beast men are set up to be guardians or sentinels and left to thier own, meaning they will be fighting solo, with a good chance of facing groups meaning that while yes they could kill a few people with one sweep having to recover from a sweep or heavy attack, with a masive heavy bludgeon would leave them open also thier sheer mass makes any sturdy enough weapon, hit with great force youll only get so much benefit from a heavier weapon when a good hit breaks ribs and ruptures organs to begin with ie a kidney punch from a minotaur will leave you in agony, and kill you with sepsis hours later

@davidhalabi664

6 жыл бұрын

I'd be terrified if a horde of beastmen attacked!

@osmium6832

6 жыл бұрын

+Alt-Bringer Albus You raise a few good points, but I don't agree with everything. They don't necessarily need minotaur-sized warhammers, but they do need something durable enough not to shatter the first time it hits plate, like a sword would. Their extra strength and momentum is going to be especially hard on conventional weapons. Even against lightly armored opponents, I doubt any bladed weapon would hold an edge for long if every swing that connects is going to pass through several bones. Bare fists, rocks, or thick lumps of metal are more likely to still be usable after a fight. They could charge in with the hammer, swing it to take out a few guys, then let go of it and backhand the guy who tries to flank them. A two-handed human warhammer could be held in one hand with a tower shield in the other to shore up their defenses. Their fighting style would depend on how agile they are portrayed to be in whatever fantasy setting they're in. Some are slow brutes, but a mace in strong, dexterous hands is a fearsome thing, indeed.

Im starting to question how humans could even survive in a fantasy setting.

@Ecanze

6 жыл бұрын

Only reason I can think of would be that humans could/can populate at a very fast paste by them often enough being more fertile than most other fantasy beings. Since most mythos/lore either have dwarf being underground loners not wanting anything to do with the rest of the world, elves being near immortal with a very small chance of producing an offspring and being mostly stuck up philosophers and artist. While minotaurs, giants and dragons often being legends in their respective fantasy setting or few and far between. Only fantasy/mythological being I could think about that would be able to out do humans in the reproduction race would be goblins, that most of the time are depicted as small, weak and not very bright most often used as simple cannon fodder by other races.

@GnarledStaff

6 жыл бұрын

coleman bundy They make great slaves though. So someones probably keeping some around. The breeding argument might work for giants, elves and dragons but if you have things like anthropomorphic wolves then humans are outbred. Though humans are usually considered adaptable so perhaps humans survive the wastes and leas desirable areas...

@domehammer

6 жыл бұрын

Humans are a perfect balanced race. They don't fail hard in any category which most fantasy races have a huge fault.

@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870

6 жыл бұрын

coleman bundy Jack of all trades and reproducing like rabbits while being almost as intelligent as the Elfs.

@jayeisenhardt1337

6 жыл бұрын

AND . . . We steal everything and improve upon it and make it our own, from animal furs and and weapons designed like teeth or claws, to alien tech. "wolfman's got nards" ~kick~ "look i'm a furry, yiff yiff"

Just found your channel, and I love it! I love how much passion and enthusiasm you put out when you deliver some of your lines. Frikken Contagious!

Please write a "Shadiversity" D&D Monster Manual. I would buy it off of Amazon or Lulu publisher.

Minotower shield!

@yaacovbloch7276

6 жыл бұрын

minadoor....

@benthomason3307

6 жыл бұрын

mini minataurs!

@thehackingburger3002

6 жыл бұрын

Ben Thomason Tar tar sauce!!

@flippingchips7343

6 жыл бұрын

Maxitower /w shield!

Do we finally have justification for DUEL SHEILDS!!?!?!?

@benthomason3307

6 жыл бұрын

I've imagined a loadout that was basically two shields with the following characteristics: *Viking or teardrop-shaped shields *they're the kind of shield with the strap that attaches to your forearm *their metal edge is razor sharp.

@inferndragon

6 жыл бұрын

they could crush people with two shields so yeah. It does make sense.

@cloudvii166

6 жыл бұрын

considering the fact that they can just charge with two shields can mean a party wipe

@cloudvii166

6 жыл бұрын

considering the fact that they can just charge with two shields can mean a party wipe

@Rakaziel

6 жыл бұрын

And they would make a great plow for charging through bigger formations - an entire phalanx of them would have a similar effect to a corn harvester

I imagined a minotaur charging at me with a shield and then smashing me against a labyrinth wall. That would crush a human, armour or not.

You are giving me SO MANY good ideas for the rpg me and my friends are making. love these videos! really helps with world building.

Too soon to say "don't let the door hit your arse on the way out"?

I submit that their apparent inability to produce their own weapons and armor might not necessarily indicate a lack of intelligence. In order to be able to produce your own weapons and armor you need to have a complex civilization that is able to produce enough abundance to allow its members to specialize their skills (and that some of them then specialize in metal working). Intelligence is certainly a prerequisite to that, but is not the only thing you need. You also need for your species to be socially inclined enough to form large groups and work together. Minotaurs are typically depicted as loner creatures. We rarely hear about tribes of minotaurs. Even if they are highly intelligent a minotaur without a tribe must learn all of the skills they need to survive on their own, and will not have time to become a specialist in one specific skill (such as making weapons or armor).

@PlayerSkillFTW

6 жыл бұрын

Minotaurs are also usually depicted as having superior memory to humans, which is why they can traverse their maze-like Labyrinths so easily without getting lost. Which indicates that they might not be stupid. Elephants in RL also have an incredible memory which surpasses that of humans.

@bobthetop3242

5 жыл бұрын

some might, I think.

@couchpotatoe91

5 жыл бұрын

Well, Minotaus could be employed by some kings which could provide them with weapons. It would make sense wanting to employ such ferocious beasts after all! Who says that they would have to provide for their own armor if they're fighting in a mixed force after all. I know I would employ Minotaur mercenaries or claim levy tax from conquered minotaur tribes and make them as effective as possible if I was king...

@ccvcharger

5 жыл бұрын

But that brings up one very important question. Why are they always depicted as loners? I mean, aside from the original Greek myth where the minotaur was simply the isolated product of bestiality and divine involvement. Because if you look at real world bovines, they typically live in enormous herds, with a fairly crude hierarchy. And it is pretty safe to say that most depictions of minotaurs have a temperament that is almost an exact match for bulls, and I guess cows for the rarely observed female minotaurs. If that is the case, then minotaurs should live in tribes with similar societal structures to the bovine herds in real life. The only reasons I can think of for minotaurs always being encountered alone is that those loners are usually young adult males trying to prove themselves, and I doubt very many people would survive approaching a minotaur tribe uninvited, since one by itself is already a formidable opponent.

@wizardtim8573

5 жыл бұрын

@@ccvcharger I'm actually working on a world story that includes minotaurs as an intelligent species (there are humanoids like humans, elves, dwarves, and gnomes. Beastoids like minotaurs, centaurs, satyrs, naga. And monstrous creatures like trolls, orcs, goblins, and ogres). Minotaurs would be the smarter ones among the beastoids, having cities that are basically labyrinths as a defensive feature. Winding streets, multiple levels, massive doorways leading into housing and shops. In times of war, invading forces trying to work their way through a city would inevitably be broken up and taken out.

Two thoughts, first if they charge and knock someone down why not just trample? Tap dance on someone's chest with that much weight? Two: variation of the Targe shield. They realize they can stylize shields to being battering rams, utilizing their natural strength, what kind of shields would they make?

Your videos are very useful for my decisions for fantasy army composition and tactics

yeah. Now I'm scared of meeting a shield-wielding cow in a labyrinth X)

@Vaasref

6 жыл бұрын

It could even be explosive !

Man, this got me thinking about a dungeon that has these big handles in the middle of the doors instead of regular ones. Why carry a tower shield with ya all the time when you can rip a door off and use that instead? Good stuff, good stuff!

I actually thought of this combo in your first video!! Love the content man❤

I know this video is old, and I've made comments on other videos, but I've just started watching this channel, and one thing kept me coming back initially. You simply made logical, rational arguments based on your personal knowledge and research, but also completely open to correction, new information, and logical arguments to the contrary. Cheers Shad!

when you said minotaur with a tower shield I immediately imagined one ripping a door off its hinges and using that XD awesome idea

Shields and a really big warhammer. And then work lots of mean spikes in to the shield. And then have him scree while charging MACHICOLATION!!!!

@TheShadowWolfie

6 жыл бұрын

Why would a Minotaur even know what machicolations are?

@ervvmuller6020

6 жыл бұрын

not need to know what it is he just has to screem it :-)

@Noone-rc9wf

6 жыл бұрын

ervv müller Uhmm don't you know Minotaurs speak Minotaurian that's doesn't have any words about medieval warfare/fortifications?? You should learn more before you make assumptions.

@bizarreworld2510

6 жыл бұрын

lol... if I ever write my fantasy novel and use minotaur that will be my first choice

@Sawtooth44

6 жыл бұрын

i now need a sound clip of it

I have 2 small points on the Minotaur's hide. For the overall durability of there head, in a rush, I usually think of a Cape Buffalo, who's skull is hard enough to stop bullets. Some interactions for the power of the Minotaur and other powerful bulls might have come from tails or imports of these beast. Also, when it comes to the original story, the version I always heard was Thesious killed the Minotaur, by using the power of his own charge to get a sword, or broken part of horn, threw the beast thick hide. To me this has always sujested there skin it too thick to be cut or easily pieced. I don't think a Minotaur in a closer area, or in close range has much need from armor. But the piecing power of a long bow or a belista, would require them to use it in an open long range area like a battle field.

Awesome video as always Shad. I found this one especially interesting. I'll probably use these ideas in running a D&D adventure some time.

So you're saying... A big, beefy Minotaur could use some thick Minodoors?

Truly, the door is the greatest of weapons.

@philiphockenbury6563

6 жыл бұрын

The door knoks on you.

@RealityRogue

5 жыл бұрын

I see you’re a man of dark souls

I love that you came to a conclusion that I used years ago! I made a D&D character that was half minotaur half giant who used a tower shield and an elven curved blade made for his size! He was easily my most op character ever due to his sheer size and when in a hall he was unstoppable due to the shield!😆

Awesome video mate, minotaurs totally rock!!

@shadiversity

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks heaps mate, always great to hear from a fellow KZreadr ^_^

@WoM

6 жыл бұрын

you got it!

Shad, if the minotaur is not so intelligent wouldn't a club or a mace be more suitable for it? It would make an even biggger strike with the minotaur strength and it would not need to care about edge alignment and proper technique as it is needed with a sword. Also would be really usefull in confined space, and it could use pretty much a piece of anything of that shade, no craft skills needed. I really like this discussions and your videos as well.

@carbon1255

6 жыл бұрын

I agree on edge alignment and technique. I would think a thick staff or something would work great, and pulp anyone through any defence. Or two sticks in more confined space. Or use the staff as a spear down a corridor anyway. keep your unarmoured body away from them.

OK. But I am gonna watch the previous video anyway :D

In the warcraft movie there was this one orc that used a shield which kinda looked like a monster skull. He charged with it, using it 2handed. There were horns or some kind of spikes on it too which made it kind of a hybrid between a tower shield and 2 short lances. Might be a great weapon for minotaurs, as long as adventurers don't get stuck on the 'horns' as you said.

Great to know you actually read the comments. Some people said you've accepted, you were WRONG, but this was more a further explanation with reconsidering and extra information/thougts, than a total correction. Keep it up!

You may not believe this, but right at the start of the video, I wanted to scream “a big shield! A big shield!” :)

Minotaur in a labyrinth with a tower shield, good. Put spikes on the shield, much better!

@egeoeris

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, or people would actually try to jump upwards by using its surface as a flat wall

@aurourus6894

6 жыл бұрын

Try that when the way behind you closes and there is no escape and a huge spiked wall is running at you.

@enoughothis

6 жыл бұрын

Aurourus, In Soviet Russia, cow makes YOU into hamburger!

@level20art50

6 жыл бұрын

Spikes would have the same issue as the lance or horns in that, after 1 kill, you now have to pick corpses off of it to use it again. And if, say, the heroes split up into multiple groups, they can ambush the not real smart minotaur while he’s doing that.

@aurourus6894

6 жыл бұрын

How can they ambush you in a straight hall?

I love taurs im glad you took time on this

Thanks for these videos they combine science and magic together and they've given me some good ideas!🤓🤓🤓👑

@lawrencemorris2261

3 жыл бұрын

Really? Like what? How invested in it are you?

I never thought I would ever watch videos about minotaurs....... very good job, thank you.

On the subject of a Minotaur using a shield could you imagine a Minotaur charging you if he had torge/spiked shield? OMG that would be hell!! That would be nearly impossible to fight in a labyrinth!!! Theseus would DEAD

XD the door shield made me laugh. Specially because you find one in the last DLC of Dark Soul and is fun to use!

Shad you should start debunking movie battles. And if i can make a recommendation please do "the battle of helms deep" from the lord of the rings.

Thanks shad now i gonna have nightmares of minotaurs with 6 foot tall spiked shields dashing against me...

A large shield is good, however... as pointed out the Minotaur is way more massive than a human. More mass in motion equals more inertia, which makes it harder to stop. The simple solution is to just run around the corner and wait for the Minotaur to slam into the wall. Furthermore, if the floor is made of stone, or even slightly hard wood, the Minotaur would probably have less grip due to the hard hooves. That would make it even harder to stop. Taking this into consideration, it is my opinion that a full-on shield charge would be a very unwise move. Still, the other advantages such a huge shield has, both in defensive and offensive capabilities, makes it a most excellent choice. I particularly like the note about edge-slamming downed opponents made earlier in the comments. Thank you for being awesome in so many ways Shad!

@alvinsanchez967

5 жыл бұрын

In Dexter's Laboratory Dexter was GMing a game. The party was running from a minotaur in a dungeon and the mage cast an illusion over a pit trap they found and the minotaur charged right into the pit.

@Procrastian

2 жыл бұрын

That just makes it a cool boss. Gives it a big exploitable weakness but it's still cool

One thing I feel wasn’t mentioned in this pair of videos was a minotaur’s speed. The style of a minotaur is to build up momentum to exert their brute strength. Since they would have low agility and slow reflexes, I don’t think they would be able to use the full potential of a sword. They would make large slow strikes, which I think gives some credibility to the use of an axe (though defense would still be an important thing to consider).

I just want to give a shoutout to the person that captioned this video. You did a great job on it and your hard work is appreciated. It was nice to turn the captions on and for once not open with "I'm Chad." You did a great job and you should be proud of yourself.

But Shad, if an interesting female Minotaur used a bag of pommels to knock down the matriculations on a castle while a dragon flew over breathing fire on dwarves shooting arrows...Could we still weaponize the udder milk?

@shadiversity

6 жыл бұрын

These are dangerous questions. . .

@albertschoise8091

5 жыл бұрын

Shadiversity maybe when inside the castle she could let it go on the floor to let the humans slip

@foolslayer9416

5 жыл бұрын

But more interesting, do female minotaurs have 1 or 2 pairs of breasts? I always pictured them with 1 pair.

@peeblekitty5780

5 жыл бұрын

@@foolslayer9416 They'd probably have udders, if not for their human designers

@Mysteri0usChannel

5 жыл бұрын

You are a bard, aren't you?

I actually think this fighting style would be thematically appropriate too. If the minotaur is using a short sword or even a short spear in addition to the shield, they would be using a fighting style very similar to the greek soldiers, fitting of their mythological origins.

@carbon1255

6 жыл бұрын

I think a staff and shield would work well. It does not have to be sharp with that muscle behind it anyway.

Im so glad you made this video shad, I watched the first one and was like....shield bro, I agree with this video 100%. Well memed.

It would be really awesome to have a Minotaur in a labyrinth that pulls off doors and grabs doors rearranging the maze as he goes! And if I can make a request on the next creature you might do one of these on. I really wanna see harpies (not a fan of the ugly monster harpy but hey what can you do?) but harpies that have wings for hands rather than being like angels, the first thing that comes to mind is metal talons to swipe at people with, or maybe they’d be better at using bows cause they’d have a different muscle structure similar to how birds have arm muscles anchored onto the middle of their chests.

I love it when you revisit videos you do. It allows for more analysis on the subject.

That idea for a minotaur with a shield in the labyrinth is a great idea. I want it in a game now. You just turn a corner in the maze to see a iron-banded wall in the narrow corridor. Then the wall comes rushing at you to the sound of furious, stomping hooves. "OH SHI-" I like the idea of them having short stabbing sword better. So that when they smash you into a wall -and somehow don't kill you outright- they can stab you to end you rightly, no unscrewed pommels required.

on one occasion I was able to convince the GM to allow me to play a "Good-aligment" Minotaur. It wasa HUGE stretch, but was able to convince him that wild minotaurs away from their evil-demonic religion influences they could potentially become "Taurens" like in World of Warcraft. So I would basically play a "cow" version compared to the WILD demonic Ox-Bull of classic minotaur. Other than that I played it as a Paladin (wow influenced again), so I changed some things. I played female tauren so had less strength but a bit more dex and better social stats, so I never used full armor, only breast-plate, a heavy shield (never a paves/tower shield) and as main weapon I used heavy Flail, allowing me to trip and push enemies away, giving me advantage when pulled off. d.facdn.net/art/zoelycan/1486067546/1486067476.zoelycan_milktank_nordvarg_1_fullsize.png

I love these videos. Here's an idea for a future one. What about races who have more than two arms? What weapons would they use to best exploit this advantage?

300: why do we want to be a good person? 1100: why do we desire the truth? 1700: why do objects fall to earth? 2017: would female Minotaurs be able to weaponize breast milk?

@GnarledStaff

6 жыл бұрын

A Welshman They knew the answer back in the old days because they had to fight milk wielding minotauresses.

@joshuayow4653

6 жыл бұрын

ha evolution. isn't it grate?

@matteussilvestre8583

6 жыл бұрын

Geordin Soucie Sounds like a cheesy fight.

@gekolvr0734

6 жыл бұрын

A Welshman I'm surprised that this thread hasn't been milked more

@gekolvr0734

6 жыл бұрын

ᕦ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕤ Ultimate #POWA that was grating to read and rather soured the intent.

You’re level of dork is breath taking and admirable.

Interesting thought I just had. In the original Greek myth of the minotaur, it was said to be a cannibal, eating humans sacrificed to it. Could a minotaur's choice of weapon be more based on a need for butchering people for food? While I don't doubt that if you had to, you could use a sword to butcher an animal, an axe might be a better choice, as it would make cutting through bone a lot easier. Butcher's cleavers, while not exactly an axe, are made thick and heavy specifically because you'll need to be able to chop through bone and gristle while butchering. If we assume a minotaur is at least smart enough to use weapons, we could also assume it's smart enough to butcher it's meat instead of just eating it unprepared. So the 'axe' it might use for killing people might not be an actual axe, but an extremely over-sized meat cleaver with an extra-long handle. Update: I just did a quick google search cause I was curious, and yes, two-handed meat-cleavers are a real thing. They're used for splitting large animals before butchering them down into smaller cuts, and were also used by whalers for cutting through blubber. Basically they're shaped like a curved meat-cleaver, where the blade is as long as your arm, with a handle about twice that length. So yeah, a minotaur could probably use one of these as a one-handed axe.

Hey Shad, I'd love it if you could make a video on what medieval weapons an imp (smaller than dwarves, halflings, etc.; maybe 1-2ft?) would use. Same for fairies/fae. With their incredibly small stature I doubt your video on dwarves/halflings/etc. would apply here, especially regarding shields. Thanks!

I'm now imagining a shield wall of Minotaurs and then in unison they charge at the enemy and decimate a foe, while their beastial roars echo across the field and the foe breaks and scramblers to flee Oooo, now I'm thinking of a fantasy beast army Minotaurs forming the main block with Centaur cavalry filling ranged and melee roles as dragons fly above sowing terror in the ranks

Wow, absolutely and brilliantly amazing work, I am truly in awe by the research as well as the artistry you show.:) I, too believe that, a mace, a club or a really big morning star could be up the Minotaur's speed. Thank you so very much, for your awesome channel.:D

@superraegun2649

6 жыл бұрын

A really big morning star (generally called a flail by the way) would not work in a labyrinth (nor would a bow for that matter), but would definitely work in open ground.

@lorenzogiani7190

6 жыл бұрын

Flail+big horns=bad idea

@a.morphous66

6 жыл бұрын

I’d think that a big mace that a human would have to use two hands for would be a great one-handed weapon to a Minotaur. In conjunction with a huge shield, that would be absolutely terrifying to face.

I'm liking this videos very much :). What about reversing the concept? What would you use against a minotaur? Warhammer with crow's beak rings a bell for me because you need something to pierce the thick skull. but I see the disadvantages.

The fact that this expands our imagination and teaches us something makes this an amazing channel.