Hey everyone! Been working on some projects and am getting back to TV reviews. QN900B coming soon! What do YOU want to see next?

@aldizzle

2 жыл бұрын

I have been "stuck" on my 12 year old Panasonic Plasma, I appreciate the reference to those TVs!! I have bought many many LCD TVs and still comeback to the Plasma TV, that said, my brother just bought the LG Star Wars Special Edition OLED per knowing about it -- due to Digital Trends. Hopefully he will be receiving that Friday, June 24, 2022. Will you be getting that one? If so, it would be great to see a walkthrough.

@Caleb_Denison

2 жыл бұрын

@@aldizzle Super limited edition so I doubt I’ll be able to get my hands on one. Won’t stop me from asking, though!

@aldizzle

2 жыл бұрын

@@Caleb_Denison I’ll try to do an unboxing video…just the TV and send it to you. 😉 …somehow. I am never going to be on a video really so maybe it’ll be useful?? Love your channel!!

@ottokern1001

2 жыл бұрын

Sonys QD OLED would be great)

@sharril1408

2 жыл бұрын

Would like to see a review of the Sony a80k and see if its any better than last year’s a80j

Quite honestly, I hardly notice the blooming on my Samsung QN90a, and wouldn't even know about it unless I looked at KZread reviewers. Thank you for your honesty about it.

@RedSavage7

3 ай бұрын

Bro idk why my eyes can’t see this I try but I can’t see I have Lg c2 Oled and Sony LCD

@RedSavage7

3 ай бұрын

😂 good for me I guess I’m to focus on what happening and not notice little things with my surround sound and action on screen

Hi Caleb- Thanks for addressing this issue. The quality and brightness of even mid-tier multi-zone backlit lcd's is really beyond reproach now, unless you're ultra-picky, and oled is the panacea to aspire to as those prices drop. I went straight from a Panny plasma a couple of years ago to a Hisense H9g (at well under $1K). Didn't have the bux for oled at the time, but I'm still impressed with it. You get even more for your money now too!

Seriously great job at explaining details and very informative. Really put everything into perspective. Thank you sir!

Very good video...just a truth many know but surprisingly few want to acknowledge as we get closer to the point of diminishing returns.

Great video Caleb I been saying this for awhile now so I definitely agree its way overblown you made a lot of great points in this video.

I watch primarily subtitled content. Local dimming displays were a mistake. OLED was the biggest upgrade to my viewing experience.

@Brisingr73

2 жыл бұрын

For people who watch normal television, OLED is definitely the way to go. Burn-in is only a concern when playing video games with a HUD, or using a computer

HI Caleb Great video brother, and great explanation. I have a awesome LG G1 65 inch so i have no issues with blooming or halo. Today is not nearly as bad for LEDs people are just so picky on that issue. Also many people dont even care about blooming or even realize what the heck in going on in the picture. I love my pure blacks and insane contrast. OLED is def the future for TVs hands down. Keep up the great vids brother. May the force be with you

I recently upgraded my TV for the first time in 7 years. With my old TV, for its entire life I had local dimming off, it was edge lit and the zones turning on and off were hugely noticeable and distracting regardless of the content. Having the occasional darker black wasn’t worth the trade-off for being distracted throughout content by the backlight. With my new TV (Sony X90J), I absolutely love it and it’s one of the best purchases I’ve ever made but the one area where I find myself conflicted is with its local dimming. During content I’m still sensitive to the zones dancing on and off. It’s a huge improvement on my last TV but a distraction is still a distraction. The bloom/halo effect is very noticeable in content and I’ve been turning subtitles off in situations where I’d normally have them on. However the trade-off for darker blacks is much more compelling on this new screen. In scenes where everything goes right this new TV looks amazing and turning local dimming off is a noticeable downgrade. But it’s distracting enough that I’m still considering it. I’m very much on the fence. I tried turning my bias lighting up as this is a suggested fix for blooming, but I found as the room became brighter and my eyes adjusted to a brighter light around the screen, I began to lose contrast in the darkest of details and the TVs peak brightness seemed dimmer to me. It seems that increasing bias lighting undoes some of the image improvements you’d want local dimming on for in the first place. I think overall, while I’m overwhelmingly impressed with the X90J, I am planning on not leaving it as long next time to upgrade again and with my next display, the local dimming/bloom/halo problem is top of my list of priorities. Given that I use my TV most of the day as a PC monitor, burn-in will continue to prohibit me from going with current gen OLEDs. But I’m hoping in 3-5 years we'll see improvements on that front too and I can get a TV that has it all.

@alexworm1707

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck with that lmao probly ganna have to wait like 20 years for micro led.

@connor2136

2 жыл бұрын

I've just returned my x90J for the A80J as I was noticing blooming and DSE and it was too distracting for me personally

@nunolemos9112

2 жыл бұрын

X90J ✌️

@mythoti

2 жыл бұрын

Caleb just finished explaining that the improvements for LED are at an end, they are no longer cost effective to make, if you want better image quality you need to get an OLED, they're cheap now, or preferably a QD-OLED, also cheap for the biggest leap in panel tech history, everything you complained about is already solved on them

@TastyPC

2 жыл бұрын

@@mythoti - My hope is that OLED's will good enough at mitigating burn-in for them to be viable for me in 3-5 years time. Every new generation of OLED seems to bring advances in this area so it could happen. I can dream.

Great info. I bought the first LG Dolbyvision LED tv in 2017 and the blooming was pretty bad (also - when it updated itself to webOS6.0 it started overheating this spring which caused the OS to slow down). 2 weeks ago I bought the latest LG OLED and will never go back to LCD tech. Though I still don't like webOS that much.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

Your mistake was buying LCD from LG specifically. They use IPS LCD panels while Samsung, Sony, and Panasonic use VA LCD panels which have better contrast ratio and therefore better picture quality. OLED is King at the moment of course.

@TheHealthLife

Жыл бұрын

@@PSYCHOV3N0M Each has it strengths and weaknesses. IPS has better color, better viewing at angles and better refresh rates. VA is better at displaying blacks. However, with local dimming and various settings on IPS..it fixes it mostly.

In late 2019 I got a 65" x950g. The blooming and halo is so noticeable now I am planning on upgrading to an OLED/QD-OLED in the next 18 months and likely going to a 77" size.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

You might want to wait for 2023 models from Sony. Hopefully by then, Samsung will be manufacturing 77-inch+ QD-OLED panels for Sony to use in their flagship OLED TV's.

@RobertK1993

2 жыл бұрын

No it's not only with 4K Dolby Vision it's noticeable.

Love your videos brother. Keep it up.

Thanks for video and info. I didn't know things were like that when buying tvs. If all that you said in the video is true then I'm gonna have to think Really on what I can do with or without when it finally comes down to buying a TV.

In 2018 we replaced our plasma TV with a Sony LED. Had my sights set on Z9D but settled on the 940E and never regretted it - except for subtitled content. Fast forward to 2022 and I'm not confident in anything but A90J - but I'm even more afraid of banding than I am of DSE / blooming on a current X90-95K model. I'm happy to keep a TV for 5+ years but at this point I'm just going to hold out as long as I can :(

making 🥞 for my dad and watching your stream keep up the good work

@Caleb_Denison

2 жыл бұрын

You are good to your Dad. Wish someone was making me pancakes!

Very well said

Honest to God I never noticed any of this until I started watching these kinds of TVs. The only time I even notice it now is when I looking at a dark image with subtitles. Up until recently I’ve alway purchased mid range TVs and it never bothered me. I have a Sony X95J and I don’t notice it at all. It replaced the Vizio 75 inch quantum, but not because of this issue. That Picture was brilliant when the TV actually worked.

Great Video. Well said!

Thank you Caleb, After all it’s just a TV!! I think some reviewers just look for something to complain about to make videos.

Yes it matters and I am so glad I have an OLED Sony A80 j 77 with deep blacks and pretty much zero blooming/halo. So great to watch

Samsung Display is abandoning LCDs because they need to see a return on their 11 billion dollar investment in QD-OLED, which means they will sell those panels to whichever company wants to sell them. They have a monopoly with QD-OLED like LG display has with WOLED. More competition in the market will lead to more innovations for future implementations at competing prices.

Great video we have sky glass 55inch since launch date so about 13 months old, I’ve noticed a dark like down the middle of the screen recently so called sky video link they noticed the same issue plus colour variation from left to right, it’s being replaced Sunday with new so I’m going to try the test on my new glass tv

Blooming is extremely distracting, at least to me. I had it on my Vizio Quantum X. Other people said it wasn't a huge deal to them.

@leeparkinson5900

2 жыл бұрын

I have Vizio quantum x also it’s pretty distracting , and I also just sold my qn90a and it was definitely better the Vizio Q X but it still shows up randomly the blooming and haloing and it can get pretty annoying .

@lonniechamberlain251

2 жыл бұрын

I just don’t see why it matters lol it rarely even shows up and when it does i don’t care lol it goes away after the scene changes but to each it’s own i guess

Thanks for the video, Caleb 👍🏻 Samsung mini-LED LCD TVs will still be produced, just not "regular" LCD screens anymore. Outsourcing going on as well. Added; not only TV's use LCD-based type screens 😉

@ValdeSanus

2 жыл бұрын

He is talking about Samsung Display not Samsung Electronics. Samsung display is no longer making LCD panels - regardless of what backlight technology Samsung Electronics uses in lcd tvs on the future.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

"regular" It's called LED LCD. The newer LCD TV's are Mini LED LCD.

Caleb I can’t wait for a Sony A80K review. Hopefully you have something planned soon. I’ve seen the tv show up at my local Best Buy and dying to get a review from you.

I've had a 2020 65" LG CX OLED. It has awesome contrast as advertised, but in less than 2 years, it developed a thin black vertical line right of center. Fortunately, for the only time in my life, I took out an available insurance plan. I was concerned the organic LEDs would develop problems, and unfortunately, was proven right. The insurance plan agreed to give me a comparable replacement TV. They recommended the LG again, but I passed. I chose the Samsung QN90B instead. While the LG had those "perfect blacks", it never had the vibrancy of my 10-year-old Sharp Aquos - the one with the yellow pixels (Oh my!). Long story (sorry), I've decided that occassional haloing is less important than full time color vibrancy. I really hope the QN90B delivers.

Thanks for this Video. I own a LG CX and a QN95B and blooming is really no problem on the QN95B. Of course side by side you will discover blooming on the QN95B in rare moments but overall the QN95B delivers a better picture than my LG CX .

@lonniechamberlain251

2 жыл бұрын

Really? I’ve never owned an OLED so I’ve always wondered if I was missing out on the immersion/3d effect. Especially in a dark room watching HD content

@GamingTech-YouTube

2 жыл бұрын

@@lonniechamberlain251 The LG CX is already over 2 Years old the QN95B the Top End LCD TV from this Year. Yes the QN95B is better than the LG CX. Probably not better than the G2 ;-)

@SD71232

2 жыл бұрын

Blooming is not a problem but inconsistent saturation is. That was my experience with the Qn90b. I hope the the qn95b doesn’t have this issue.

@lonniechamberlain251

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamingTech-KZread I understand that, but in retrospect I meant the infinite contrast of OLED vs the brightness/pop of LED. The only major improvements OLED has made is brightness am I right. The CX was already nearing LG’s final form OLED in the g2

@supaahflyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@lonniechamberlain251 the guy is comparing a brand new LCD tv to an OLED mid-premium range OLED from 2 years ago. Newer high end oleds like G2, S95B, A95k, C2 all smoke any LCD tv for immersion and outright picture quality in a dark room when watching cinema like contet

Hope you get 1m subs before the end of the year.

The same with Oled! I am so happy with my X95j 65” $1,091 fantastic deal! Perfect tv for me!

I think it would have been useful to point out how bias lighting can drastically reduce the impact of blooming. And reduce eye strain while boosting perceived contrast and color depth. For very little money as well!

- Excellent presentation. Forgive me for my confusion as in a ISF course, blooming was defined as a condition of over saturated white levels (not set properly to 235 ire). Halo was a condition were the sharpness set was set to high. Would not the issue that you are describing be best defined as "Bleeding"? I personally wish that industry would adhere to a standardized terminology. As we both can agree upon, each form of technology has it's own Pros & Cons.

I’ve used many high end lcd and they can get pretty distracting , sometimes you won’t see it , other times it shows up and your thinking that scene doesn’t look that difficult you would think why is it blooming or haloing , I think anyone who gets use to a oled then goes back is going to notice it a lot more then someone who’s use to lcd led tvs .

@Rakeesh08

Жыл бұрын

Hey bro,do u think the lg uhd 2022 or lg nanocell 2022,which should i get...im scared the nanocell has bad blooming

Thanks, Caleb, for your commentary on the status of LCD TV technology. I'm one of those people who's still enjoying the picture quality of my plasma TV and I know that when it comes time to buy a replacement, I will almost certainly be investing in a QD-OLED TV, not an LCD. Having said that, I was enthusiastic about the introduction of "Dual Cell" LCD panels by Hisense. I'm inclined to think that Dual Cell technology could potentially take LCD TVs to the next level of refinement. Unfortunately (as you pointed out in your review of the Hisense U9DG) Hisense did not implement this innovation as well as could be done. Imagine, though, what a company like Sony might be able to achieve by using Dual Cell panels in their flagship LCD TVs.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame that the Hisense U9DG Dual Cell LCD TV is now discontinued. Dual layer LED LCD > Mini LED LCD. I wish Sony made consumer-grade Dual layer LED LCD flagship TV's aside from their AMAZING OLED TV's.

@alpzepta

6 ай бұрын

What they need to do is ditch LCD technology altogether they suck even worse than CRT. Invest in better technologies like SED or Laser Phosphor Display for their TV would be a better move. Thanks god for OLED at this moment or I’ll be stuck with a horrible grayish black and these blooming from local dimming oh Motion Blur is so bad too.

Well said.

I haven’t purchased a new TV in nearly a decade, and I kind of feel like I should hold out just a little bit longer for some of this stuff to be refined before purchasing what I hope/expect might be my final TV purchase.

Like most things it's personal. For me, backlight bleed on the edges and halo/blooming is, by far, the most distracting thing that will instantly ruin the picture of a TV as soon as you're not displaying a uniformly-bright scene. But I'm not susceptible to other things that drive people insane such as judder, the rainbow effect (DLP tvs/projectors), etc. etc.

@fishels3895

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly this. I have an OLED and I can technically see the stutter when the camera pans, and I can see that fact my tv simply doesn’t get as bright as 99% of leds. But personally it doesn’t bother me. Perfect blacks while watching a horror movie at night is so important to me. More important than 4K. More important than HDR even.

@jc74435

Жыл бұрын

Same!

@cyberedge881

Жыл бұрын

That's true. I personally hate the sample and hold motion of OLEDs. I also think they have very mediocre color reproduction. My plasmas and my QN90B have fairly similar looking colors and they look fantastic to me, but my LG CX lacks color brightness and color purity. I don't understand why some other people don't seem to notice this. It's bizarre how much human perception varies.

@alpzepta

6 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@cyberedge881Why would OLED color production be so bad when there are no backlight to washed out the color on the screen?

@4637812648

5 ай бұрын

​@@alpzeptaW-OLED uses a white subpixel through color filters. QD-OLED doesn't

I've got my fingers crossed that the new TCL C935 will be the be all/end all of LCD TV's with its 4th gen round MiniLED's and 1080 zones on the 65in, and 1920 zones on the 75in. As little blooming as possible(or at least better controlled), while pushing 2000nits. And it has all the HDR formats under the sun from basic HDR10 to HDR10+, HGiG and HLG, and Dolby Vision IQ so nothing is left out and you're getting the intended experience. And hopefully with Game Mode they go the same direction as Sony where if you can't have VRR and Full Local Dimming on at the same time, you can pick one or the other per your preference. Unlike Samsung who force the two to work together, but they gimp the Local Dimming to claw back processing headroom and reduce latency.

@69Dartman

2 жыл бұрын

I have their original 65 825 mini led set and I don't notice blooming on it so my bet is the new TCL will look great. I'm going to get the Sony Z9K because I came into decent toy money recently. Going with the 75 because can't bring myself to spend what Sony wants for the 85 and it's not out yet. I think just try not to pixel peek them looking for issues. If it's bad enough to make you crazy swap it out for another one or send it back for a refund. Crossing my fingers the Sony looks bigger and better than the set I have now and the few comments and reviews are promising. Cameras tend to pick up blooming you don't really notice in person depending on the iso settings used so best to see it in person.

The main reason more than anything that cause me to love oled over Led is the fact they have no blooming. I hate blooming more than anything. In my man cave of complete and absolute darkness, it's also plenty bright . Keep them videos coming Caleb cause they are always interesting n fun. Ty

Just did my part on your goal to reach 1M subs. ;)

At 6 minutes in you describe the exact experience I am feeling after getting the 8k qn700b. Debating returning it as the blooming is that bad. I am hoping there is a setting, but honestly thinking of returning it and just paying a bit more for OLED. I tried the U8H and it arrived with a broken screen so had to return that one. I didn't want to buy the same brand after that and thought I couldn't go wrong with the samsung but pretty disappointed so far.

Blooming is still very much a problem on modern TVs, at least the mid range TVs that most people will buy. It's most noticeable on subtitles and on the TV cursor when you're navigating menus, but also for scenes of outer space, in dark rooms or caves with areas of point light sources etc. Basically any scene where OLED is at its best, LCD blooming is at its worst.

Problem comes back in GAMING MODE when input lag has to be lowest possible; The backlighting can't be controlled well and you are back to seeing tons of blooming/halo effect ;) OLED still does this perfectly and are also much faster in general. You see smearing on a LCD panel because it's kinda slow. Also, still only high-end models have FALD or Mini LED because it's so expensive that OLED from last year is cheaper and better. I think LCD is moving down to low end mid-tier only soon, because WOLED and QD-OLED will rule supreme in the high-end market...

Because of my hearing impairment, I rely on closed captions exclusively when watching programs. I'd appreciate some thoughts on 1) which tech (OLED or QLED) would work better and 2) ways to minimize blooming if it occurs.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

OLED wins hands down. Every LED LCD or Mini LED LCD TV will have some amount of blooming no matter what because it doesn't have 1 local dimming zone per pixel on the display. 16:9 4K TV's have 3840 x 2160 resolution which = 8,294,400 pixels. Those 8 million+ pixels can individually turn on and off which means zero blooming. LCD TV's nowadays AT BEST have MAYBE a few hundred local dimming zones which is a far cry from 8,294,400 pixels. The now-discontinued Hisense U9DG Dual Cell LCD TV is the closest thing to OLED in terms of contrast ratio because it has over 2 million local dimming zones (which is STILL not close to the 8,294,400 pixels that 4K has). Any LCD TV with local dimming will have blooming no matter what. Go with OLED if you like using subtitles. P.s. QLED is just a marketing term. It's STILL LCD underneath but with quantum dots included for increased color volume. Anything LCD uses a backlight ni matter what. Black will always look gray on LCD vs black ACTUALLY looking black on an OLED TV.

The Samsung QN90B is a great tv for 2022...That being said, is the new QN95B that much better and worth the higher list price?

I know it's gotten better, but after having plasma and now OLED, I just can't take the risk of getting a cruddy LCD. I just pitched the LCD I had in the bedroom and replaced it with a 48" C1. No regrets. The blooming isn't really the problem, it's the flashlighlighting and overall uniformity issues, especially on lower end LCDs. This really becomes apparent in a dark room. If I am going to spend the extra cash to get a higher end LCD that minimises this, it makes more sense to go the extra mile and get OLED.

@michaelbarmby9105

Жыл бұрын

Was it a Sony model?

@Rakeesh08

Жыл бұрын

Hey bro,do u think the lg uhd 2022 or lg nanocell 2022,which should i get...im scared the nanocell has bad blooming

This is a great topic. I'm on the fence about getting a 42" tv for my bedroom it's come down to either Sony X85K $600 or a LG C2 $1300. Is OLED worth paying twice the price?

I hate it! I had an old LG OLED B7 which I guess got hit with something and developed a baseball sized spot in the middle. I ended up getting a 85" Sony LCD to replace it because I wanted a bigger TV and the larger OLEDs were too expensive. While I don't notice anything during the day, I prefer to watch movies or TV shows at night and the bloom drives me crazy. Especially if I'm watching anything with my wife who prefers the subtitles on. Can't wait to go back to OLED

I get the point. That's why for me, LCD TV are dead. I am able to see the blooming even in a bright room. Tested on 4 TV: 75QN95A, 55X93J, 55Q80A and 75X93J.

Hey. Great video! I have a question. Will blooming/halo be worse on an 8k display since it the pixels are closer together so light could shine through more of them? I have no intention of buying 8k anything anytime soon but just curious.

@TheKwod

2 жыл бұрын

Probably not because 8k models always use significantly more local dimming zones.

@jbones1453

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheKwod Thank you!

Caleb, those are really nice shelves in the background. What make and model are they? I want to buy them. Thank you!

@techsamurai11

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, he did not see that one coming 😀

I was wondering why you never reviewed projectors, and now I know why :) I was lured in by the BIG picture, they do look great when projecting scenes of outside / sunny / sports ... but as soon as you go into a cave, the picture is just horrible....You can't project black... and at that moment I wish I was watching my friends OLED instead to see all the detail I'm missing :)

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

The closest thing to deep blacks from a consumer-grade projector are one of the high-end models from JVC.

@theripper121

2 жыл бұрын

@@PSYCHOV3N0M Agree with the suggestions of JVC or Sony. Anyone that uses a decent LCOS panel

My Z9D doesn’t have blooming as long as you are not watching from the a silly side angle. Looking to upgrade to the Z9J but I’m worried it won’t have as good blooming control. The Master drive was the best LCD technology but unfortunately never carried on.

It matters if it’s bad like the 90b update breaking the picture quality but normal use blooming doesn’t bother much. On the other hand gaming on led with vrr on does suck with blooming when gaming in caves and etc

Hey Caleb, when ya hit 1M are you gonna hook a fan up with a TV? I thought that was mentioned in a prior vid

Well it was certainly a much bigger issue on CRTs, especially low end ones.

I still dd a 55" LG plasma in my living room and use a 42" Samsung in my bedroom and I prefer my plasma for a few reasons but blooming isn't one of them. The newer Samsung has a brighter picture but the plasma has better color, when OLED comes down in price the plasma will come down.

Love the punchy power of LCD LED TVs, their just a standout and jump off the wall sort of speak, which is why going into a store your immediately wowed drawn to LED TVs at first glance especially if its sitting next to an Oled. It's when you get them home under the lights of your home instead of the multi bright lights of a store you began to notice the annoyances and distracting flaws. Me I watch a lot of fast action content, movies sports and LCD LED TVs just do not work for me not just because of blooming or the halo effect but because of ghosting which bothers my eyes. The instant response time of Oled pixels is perfect for that type of content and of course the contrast is great.

Sorry to say but I still have the Sony Z9D I bought the LG 65 c2 because I thought it's time for a replacement... and I am still amazed how good the Z9D is...even today no blooming whatsoever...

Just bought a C2 Oled last Saturday. I think Oled is the future.

Hey digital trends,should i get the lg nanocell 65 inch 2022 or the lg uhd 65 inch 2022?

Depends on the TV if you have like a Sony 900 L LED full array, TV its gonna look amazing. The cheaper LEDs like edgelit have issues with blooming. This really ultimately depends on the TV just like how not all OLED TVs look good.

I still see future for LCDs, not the LED backlit, but the mini-LED ones, not to mention, the most important color/white correction ever implemented on a LCD, which is the nano red/green crystal laye, sometimes called "quantum dots", Sometimes called "nano Cells", to take out the ever known "blueish tint" the whites on LCD had before. We could reach the desired 10 bits "1 bilion colors" or higher and other capabilities only OLED types could do. Yeah, the search for "true blacks" is still going on on LCD, but all the greys and colors we already reached, though they still lacks uniformity... However, we can wait a lot of years for it, using the same LCD with no risk to burn-in😅

I think blooming is over blown. When I watch content I rarely if at all see blooming or light bleeding or haloing or whatever you want to call it. The TV's have gotten much better with blooming control and almost as good as OLED. But now adays it seems like everyone wants super bright TV's so blooming may not be able to be avoided totally. I guess it's a matter of choice no blooming with OLED or a little blooming with LED TV's but have super bright displays.

@apophis9192

2 жыл бұрын

Most of the reviewers are just hobbyists. They'll pause the screen on a still picture and analyze every aspect. Most of the time real world viewing doesn't even come into play. OLEDs aren't perfect either they also have their issues.

@fepethepenguin8287

2 жыл бұрын

No no 1 orc the other now S95b. Bright in all content like any led or better And perfect black

@cryengine_x

2 жыл бұрын

@@fepethepenguin8287 s95b full screen brightness, or small highlights sustained brightness =200 nits lol good joke.

@fepethepenguin8287

2 жыл бұрын

@@cryengine_x wtf are you talking about ffs

@fepethepenguin8287

2 жыл бұрын

@@cryengine_x any ways I upgraded from The C1 instantly Went to a best buy took a few videos for a friend b4 a got mine Watch the 2nd video from top It shows every TV in best buy And s95 Blowing them all away Including the 90b what ever Samsung best TV last year Go to store and look

Active Matrix and Dual Layer LCD would be an alternative.

I updated from a samsung Au8000 to a hisense u8h. The u8g hisense is great for gaming,but for movies with judder and smoothing reduction turned all the way up I still see a judder. I love the soap opera effect. Can you recommend a tv that I can upgrade that will show movies with the most soap opera effect.....

Absolutely spot. Having been through the KRP500A phase, viewing in a pitch black room etc I now view TV in normal conditions and also realised blooming is a non issue for me. Brightness is far more important in the real world as I don't watch credits and if I were to find myself looking for blooming, the content is obviously not very good. :-) Everyone just needs to decide for themselves what matters, me I'm over test patterns, etc.

I have a old Sony ZD9, and absolutly no problem with blooming!

Blooming was never a problem for me…because i didn’t know what it was. Then I learned what blooming was and I couldn’t unsee it now matter how much I tried not to lol

I wish we had 4k pdp panels. I love my 2006 samsung 42 inch plasma and wish they had 4k upgrades.

I'll never buy an OLED for burn-in / image retention.

My qn90a is great. I only notice blooming in test patterns, occasionally subtitles, and some starry scenes. I'd say 90% of the time it looks as good or better than my CX.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 At your last sentence.

i have a LG nanocell 086 75" i am very happy with the picture full screen no complaints its lovely and even white titles have no bloom at all but when there are black bourders like in most movies there is light patch in the upper right hand side, is this normal?

I despise blooming. Too distracting, thank god OLED days are here

@F-the-tank

20 күн бұрын

What is oled and why so much hype behind it

Ultra short throw is the future with a very good ALR screen, that solves most of the problem.

Looking to replace our LG B7 OLED that has pretty bad burn-in. This is good information that eases my mind a bit about buying a non-OLED tv...as I'll never have another OLED.

@digitaltrends

2 жыл бұрын

We would LOVE to know what burned in on your B7 and how it came to be.

@thecockflock

2 жыл бұрын

@@digitaltrends The LG B7 was purchased Nov 2017. Since then, there's the notorious 25% window issue that started at less than 2 years and now the Netflix logo won't go away in the lower right of the screen and the KZread logo and arrow are present in the upper right of the screen. I replaced a Pioneer Kuro with this set hoping I'd get 10 years out of it too...but that's not going to happen.

2 жыл бұрын

@@digitaltrends I had a B7 also and had very similar issues. I tried Samsung Q85a but did not like itt. My next TV Will be LG QNED91.

Unrelated to your video however I hope you know the answer to the following question. Are there any 60hz TVs capable of 1440p at 120fps? My understanding is that 60hz means the TV is only able to do up to 60fps regardless of resolution.

OLED becoming the norm would be amazing

@alexworm1707

2 жыл бұрын

For the companies it would be great, inagine people throwing away oled screens left and right because of burn in

Blooming is still a big issue on the low to mid range lcd's. Not a major problem like it once was but it can make or break an otherwise great TV.. Ex. I was watching a review on the U7k vs 4 other TV's (wonderful TV. by the way) . They ran starfield and it just looked like a bunch of blooming light washed out lights.. Where the other LCD TV's looked good... ( not Oled good but decent enough)

Mini LED will eventually be the best option over oled. Because the brightness is a clear advantage for the HDR colors, and the blacks will be significantly better over time. With little risk of burn in. Sorry, I'm not spending 2,000+ on a oled to have to replace it in a year in a half. OLED sacrifices detail and color for blacks. With a great risk of uselessness after 3/4ths less the life span of a LED. Blooming will be less and less as the mini tech advances also. My parents still have my first 4k QLED LG after 5 years. Where Ik people who've been through 2 or 3 oled's in that time.

I take issue with the idea of insurmountable 'complication' with increasing LED dimming zones. Why? Because the LED backlight is just an EXTREMELY low resolution display being driven given higher resolution content. I work with graphics, and these types of down sampling calculations are not hard to do -- like, at all -- and even low-end smartphone SoCs are more than equal to the task of driving these from a computation and bandwidth perspective. 10K LEDs may sound like a lot, but this is only 100x100 pixels; far lower than would be acceptable for playing Doom in 1993. I intuit that increasing the number of LEDs is more of a manufacturing cost problem, than a technical problem.

I have a 75 inch lg 85 series nanocell and it has bad blooming in my darker bedroom. No setting really gets rid of it. Bought a 77 inch C2 to replace it... Psyched!

@tbone5654

Жыл бұрын

I have a Sony QD-OLED for my main TV, Aero 4K OLED latop, but LCD for PC. Was using the LG nanocell for PC but just upgrade to Samsung QN90B Neo mini led. Way way better. Now I only see blooming if I look for it, worth the tiny imperfection for a bulletproof PC screen.

Does it ever get worse over time? Because I had a TV that was fine and then after a few years and...I noticed I white glow on my edge lit TV. It was dying... No seriously. A year after after the extreme edge blooming started the TV died for good.

??question for the pros?? ...so which 65" tvs UNDER 600.00 ARE BEST For least blooming?? The sales guy said the Samsung Crystals 7000/8000 are great?? How are those? Thanks guys!

@NaudVanDalen

Жыл бұрын

Any LCD TV other than quantum dot TVs suck.

Right

What about MicroLED? I thought that this technology would indeed be a vast improvement over conventional and MiniLED for blooming, and be brighter and without the burn-in risks of OLED.

@TheGabrielSevero123

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, i’m curious about that too, it’s a very promising tech

@techsamurai11

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's still too expensive. For some reason, miniLEDs are as expensive as OLEDs as we can see with the QN90b, X95k vs the C2 and A80k.

@Lead_Foot

2 жыл бұрын

You got a spare $150,000 to buy an 88 inch microled?

@DarkKnight-gw4gw

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lead_Foot well of course not anytime soon, but Caleb is talking like LED will ALWAYS have this blooming/brightness trade-off, that LED has peaked. If MicroLED costs ever come down enough doesn’t that trade-off go away?

Thank you for the video Caleb! You really know your stuff! I recently bought a 70inch Sharp K2 LCD/LED TV, it was on sale. I love it but I do see a little bit of blooming on the lower left. After using tv for the past 3 weeks I've noticed that the blooming has gotten less noticeable. Am I crazy or does this actually happen?

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

Watch a movie scene that shows a starry night sky such as Interstellar. You'll see blooming on any LED LCD TV that has local dimming.

Quick question? Samsung sent me a defective QN85C and I have a new QN85C on the way right now . On these brand new Samsungs Sonys LGs is it a big deal to have dirty screen effect aka DSE as they call it , should I be worried if I have it on the brand new unit ? If I can get any helpful advice that would be appreciated

@teeaymusik9811

6 ай бұрын

I have the QN90C and the blooming is there at some videos. I try to find a fix to that issue.

how well did that age with the new Bravia 9?

I think that's shortsighted. There's no reason a technology like dual-cell couldn't drastically improve backlight control even further. Sure, the first versions had issues, but nothing that couldn't be overcome. Of course that only makes sense as long as it's cheaper than future evolutions of OLED.

For me the dealer breaker for LCD is and always has been viewing angle.

This video made my day! I have been saying this for years. The fact that reviewers have to resort to showing completely black backgrounds with a little white ball on the screen or pause menus to show blooming, really shows just how far the technology has come and their lack of that understanding of it. You can have 1 million local dimming zones and it won't equate to over 8 million pixels. There will still be haloing and slight blooming on those test patterns. When watching real world content, you hardly ever see the effects of blooming. However, ABL has been a problem on Oleds for years but no one goes out of there way to show how distracting it is when watching real world content. You don't need a test pattern to demonstrate how ABL will effect your viewing experience. It is just a limitation of the technology and is the reason I spoke up about it. Does that mean I hate Oleds, no it doesn't, but I know you can't fix Abl with a firmware update. (pun intended) It is just long overdue for these tvs (LCDs) to be reviewed in an unbiased way. You are well on your way to 1 millions subs and it is great to see you use that influence to evolve this space into the reality of things.💯

100% we need to evolve the technology

I have a QE85QN95A and am not bothered by the occasional blooming but there are some specific odd effects that look much worse than I think they should. One example is when Netflix 4k HDR shows the certificate rating in the top left of the screen with a bright red vertical bar and a pink circle with white text. It is like someone shone a torch on the screen. Anyone else see this with Netflix ?

I'll wait for QD oled to drop in price. I still love my 1080p Sony Led. 7 ms input lag in game mode! It was ahead of its time. 😎

@Totone56

2 жыл бұрын

7ms ? Damn, that's very, very good even compared to modern TVs

@memorycard1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@Totone56 Indeed. ☺️

@memorycard1000

2 жыл бұрын

@Codebreaker No confusion here, no. Lol! With "those"you mean all tvs back then were 27 ms...

@memorycard1000

2 жыл бұрын

@Codebreaker No need. You get it.

@memorycard1000

2 жыл бұрын

@Codebreaker What tvs? All of them? "Those tvs"...No, not a fanboy at all. I've had Phillips, Panasonic, Sony. My tv measured with high speed camera 7-8 ms input lag on different sites back then. Leo bodnar which always shows higher said 22 .

MicroLed will become the new standard when commercially obtainable.

Never really understood why the implementation of FALD on smaller tv sizes, eg. 49" was always that much worse than larger sizes, as the processing power required for a given number of zones shouldnt be any different. Ive just plumped for an OLED after 3 years of failing to choose a TV, so that probably says it all anyway.

@mainsource8030

2 жыл бұрын

my samsung g9 neo monitor has 2048 dimming zones and looks fantastic, its a super ultrawide monitor though for 1800.00

no, its not "overblown." Its the very reason oled exists. It will get better with microled...but who knows when that will be.

Got my A80J a few months ago, absolutely love it but to deny that some content doesn't look better on a high end LCD is delusional. OLED is a superior technology so its only fair to compare it with high end flagshig LCD tv's

The only thing I will say about blooming is sometimes I wonder if blooming is actually worse than the effect it's trying to hide I think I'd rather have slightly higher black levels all around and have to deal with blooming. People always talk about oh that's perfect blacks but really for me it's the pixel level control that gives you those perfect contours that matters more than they actual shade of black But blooming is a modern problem caused by attempting to fix another problem.

@MrColinisation

2 жыл бұрын

So what you saying is you want a Sony LCD? Got it 😁😉

Screen size is the problem IMO. The larger the screen the bigger the problem. I returned a mid level Samsung Q7 LED 85”. Blooming was ridiculously obvious. It was not tolerable. In fact, my 5 year old 75” Samsung was far better controlling the backlight bleed. I ended up going with a Sony OLED. Problem solved but had to go with 77” vs 85”. Now I will never return to LED. Hopefully the biggest screen sizes come down in price.