I played with Bruce Leitzke in 1968. I thought you could only loop to inside. On first tee he hit a fade and I said "good miss", but I was a believer after the round. He didn't like to practice but made a good living on tour.

What you’re preaching is definitely an over the top swing & I’m just starting to get & understand the motion after purchasing your video, my old destructive over the top swing was when I started my downswing with my right shoulder going forward & over which led to wild slices if not controlled, glad I stumbled across your platform Cristo as I feel it’s making the difference in my golf swing 🏌️‍♂️

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I'm excited to hear that, Graham! Keep us informed about your progress!

Ok folks. I’ve been a hacker for 25 years. I’ve tried every golf swing out there. Stack and tilt, the figure 8. Strong grip, open stance loop , Jimmy Ballard , one plane and drop hands first and rotate like crazy. I be watched several of the oTT vids on this channel decided to go play for the first time in a year. I struck the ball with great consistency, with compression and length. It was awesome. The swing is easy to repeat. The one thing I learned is you must take the swing back very deep behind you then up then swing over your backswing plane. If you don’t go deep you will pull it left. It’s Inside Up then Ott !!!!! Like a Boss

Great stuff Christo. What I think this swing motion does is what most golf instructors call keeping the club in front of you but how you did that I didn't understand until I started focusing on the right wrist position throughout the swing. The best instruction I saw on this was Tom Bertrand where he advocated right palm up in the backswing and right palm down through the hitting area. I always had problems as Tom Watson said with an early release and hitting fat shots and shots that started to the right. I use to try to supinate the left wrist but the action is a right hand throwing motion and you supinate the left wrist by keeping the right wrist in flexion (right palm down) through the hitting area and releasing after impact. However, the release is the right wrist going from flexion to supination. By keeping the right wrist in flexion it also causes the right arm to stay under the left through strike zone which is a trapping or capturing the ball and slinging it down the target line. All this action begins by the hips sliding to left to start the swing and rotating them to target to trap and throw the ball down the target line. This pulls the hands over the top of the backswing plane. I don't feel the plane really changes its just the action of the hips turning toward the target causes the hand path to be over the path of the hands on the backswing. It's just physics. I used to have a very high ball flight because I came from the inside and behind and would roll the wrists closed to square the clubface. Now I feel like the club is closed throughout the downswing except in the strike zone where the release begins and this action keeps the clubface square to the target line a little longer. It's important to note that what we feel in the swing and what it looks like are two completely different things. The right wrist is the key for me now as this squares and delofts the clubface to create a penetrating ball flight. I find this action easiest with the sand and lob wedges where I can hit an 100 yard shot with little effort that is 15 or 20' off the ground, has a lot of backspin with a two hop stop. There are so many shot making possibilities from this discovery you have made. Another great OTT swing and one of the best ball strikers in the 80's and 90's is Nick Price. Take a look at his OTT swing You deserve much credit from my venture down this path of what feels like an OTT swing but is really the correct mechanics and swing plane through the strike zone. Well done!!!

Thank you christo..fantastic content as always… this whole topic has been an intriguing mystery to me for a long time because all my favorite all time swingers were so obviosly over-the-top… Snead, jones, Daly..three cheers to u for giving me the permission to swing the way i always wanted to.

@quantumpotential7639

2 жыл бұрын

We need revival. Runway #2 is being turned off we're now clear for take off on Runway #1 and yes you will be Snead and Player's wingman for sure and knock over sticks from an aerial assault with the OTT swing master Christ.

I play to a plus 4 with this swing pattern with minimal practice needed. Picked up golf in my early 20s and from the very beginning, this has been my motion. I would encourage anyone to give it an go. Easy on the body and maybe more importantly….easier on the mind .

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Easy is the key word. My old swing required tons of repetition and this is much more natural. Good for you, man.

@louispounds7486

2 жыл бұрын

Love me some 7dust!

@quantumpotential7639

2 жыл бұрын

Plus you're ripped 💪

@bonjovi7120

Жыл бұрын

Bha ha plus 4 do not watch this rubbish🤣🤣🤣🤣

Been working on this swing. Still cold in Colorado. 16’the other morning. So my basement has to do for now. The feeling is good. Maybe next week!😀⛳️

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I'm excited for you!

This reminds me of Moe Normans Swing ,,back and up,, over and through , what do you think thanks so much for your generosity and kind hearted information sharing,, you truly have a heart that desires to help people!

Christo, firstly, I'm a big fan of yours from Drexel Hill, PA (near Philly) ... I recall a segment on Golf Channel (which I can't find) wherein Frank Nobilo described OTT as not a bad thing as long as you know what to do with it... i.e. - face angles at impact, etc... he had Moe Norman, Bobby Jones, and even Ben Hogan footage and showed that everyone who has ever been great comes OTT - even if just a little bit. Glad you are recirculating this idea and I think you are 100% correct. I've tried everything and KNOW it is way easier on the back and what 99% of golfers do naturally. I've been down to zero hcp and presently a 2 (costly rise !) , but I'm going back to this and know the +hcp numbers are possible once again. I hope to meet you someday and even better if we could play. I'll hit you up if I get out west sometime. Please look me up if you ever come east. I wish you a Happy Swing Evolution in the meantime.

Thank you for this vid, Christo. Can you please crazy detail the driver downswing with over the top move? Either here or on MSEtv. Thank you.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I sure can. I'll shoot a video on driver and put it in the Miracle section! Check out the Lasso Move video I put in there. It's about driver.

Gonna give it a go, Tom Watson's clip got me thinking, I have been a good golfer, the shot that always frustrated me through out my golfing life was the heavy or fat shot, the method you and Tom prescribe puts the clubface on a better path. So I am going to adapt and use it. Thanks, i am now a new subscriber : )

@quantumpotential7639

2 жыл бұрын

One Month LaTer, how is the OTT swing progressing for ya so far? Fun again?? Of course it is. 💪

Thanks for another great video. Jim McLean also has a slot swing video where he discusses the over the top move in more detail. As you have noted it's a hand path loop and the shaft gets/stays on plane (no tip over).

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I am a big fan of Jim McLean!

@Yoohoo2949

2 жыл бұрын

Jim, by 'tip over' do you mean clubhead approaching the flight line from outside the flight line?

Hi Christo, thank you for your content. I just recently came across the videos of Bobby Jones showcasing his over the top swing. I was a bit confused when I saw it at first, then your videos came out. I never knew that JB Holmes, one of the longest hitters on tour, also has an over the top swing. Thanks for your video's.

@quantumpotential7639

2 жыл бұрын

It's all about getting the body in the right natural position to go KaPoW at and through IMPACT. The biggest impact that's ever been made on my swing of life however is John 3:16 which virtually guarantees you unlimited tee times at the best courses in heaven which you do NOT wanna miss out on. Thanks 🙏

Thks for the mention, it's still working well, best wishes peter, Lytham

Christo, before I pay the $50 to buy the instructional video, how mechanically detailed is the instruction? For instance, how do you move your hands in during takeaway? Use ground pressure or literally suck your hands in? Also, from the top do you literally fire the right hand towards the ball or do you use ground pressure? Thanks.

does hogans static ball position off the left heel kinda help this action because the arc of the swing by that point is already going left of the target line?

christo, so does the ott happen because the natural reaction to start down is to start opening up with the hips and shoulders and it puts the arms, club and hands over the backswing plane?

I used to teach my students that, it was the severity of the outside to inside swing path through impact, and the holding of the hands combined that, was the issue. because, as I understand it, the brain is attempting to correct for the swing path, with the hands. the other thing I taught was slow or inactive hip rotation that allowed the torso to create an open position at impact. imho, the basis of being a good teacher of the golf swing, starts with the recognition and accounting for the simple fact we are all built differently. our bodies are stronger/weaker/flexible.... in different areas. we think differently, focus on different things. However,we are ALL governed by the same thing, the clubs position at impact. there is also one thing that every golfer wishes for, and it is probably the only thing we would all agree upon.....consistency. how we get to that goal, is inevitably going to be different. I have no doubt that, your method will help some golfers, revolutionize some, and be a borderline waste of time for others. this is simply the nature of the beast. my one advice would be...drop the sensationalism, and just sell the merit of your method. there is no "miracle" swing, and the use of that word is nothing more than a marketing ploy to associate what you are trying to sell, with something that has nothing to do with golf. golf has been overrun with snake oil pushing, and most of it is based on the false pretense that any one swing technique will work for every golfer. it won't.

@quantumpotential7639

2 жыл бұрын

We need more sensationalism and excitement in the game if the game is to survive. He's just doing his job here in making the game worth getting excited over again. Hope and new expectations springs eternal. Now go to your Bible and read John 3:16 for a cometely over the top offer that virtually assures you a guaranteed tee time in heaven played over the best courses in the universe. Thanks.

I know we talked about the practice swings of Jordan Spieth. He clearly is rehearsing an OTT motion. He does this on every tee box.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

The problem for me is he seems to be unnaturally laying the club off at the top. Snead and Bobby Jones just let it cross the line. I don't think it matters. Just on the downswing.

It was pretty cool to ask a question in the comments and then get a whole video answering it in my recommended when I woke up 😊

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

There you go! It's a community effort around here.

@ironsideeve2955

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience yup appreciate ur hard work, etc on the channel so subbed to MSE tv. i do think though that a better business model would be to sell individual interviews (like the gary player one) for $5 or something OR to have a patreon and have all ur content on YT, etc. i dont really know what im talking about though, never set it up. thanks for ur content, about to head to the range. thanks for ur time.

Similar to George Gankas move, but much easier and explained. Love it.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting to know. I feel a little Gankasy, but I had a hard time doing what he describes.

@lageronimo8012

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience I agree. You have to bend yourself into a pretzel and be 20 years old to do Georges stuff. He get results though if you are young and flexible Your term over the plane is a good one. OTT may confuse as you say swinging right to left.

So basically under the plane (bringing the club in)on the backswing then over on the downswing?(even though because you are turning you are pretty much on the plane) Vs going over on the backswing then under on the downswing.

What matters most is keeping the clubhead along the target line. But I also knew a guy who hit a 230 yard pull slice and played to a 3 handicap.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

If your friend hit a pull slice, his path was to the inside of the target line. Relatively speaking I agree with what you are saying.

So what is the "trigger" to starting the over the top move? Is it turning the left shoulder back early? Is it throwing the hands out further toward the ball? What is it?

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

No, don't move the left shoulder, move the hands. You should pick up the video. myswingevolution.com/collections/all-products

So here's a conceptual question. In order to do this over the top, it seems predicated on the idea you have to take the club way inside on the backswing. What if you didn't take it so far back inside and took the same downward path on the downswing that these over the top pros are using. Would it not get the same results? Without the "loop"???

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

It's easier to create the leverage by taking it inside. You have to try it, Steve. I'm making a video comparing my old swing and there it looks bad to me knowing what I know now. Now, if you're a 25 year old pro with a ton of flexibility you may be able to get leverage that way, but I don't think I can.

Christo, suggesting Mike Austin and Mac O"Grady analysis. Great swings on these guys.

@JussPasnThru

2 жыл бұрын

Mike Austin for sure! And Bradley Hughes.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have been digging into Mike Austin and Mike Dunnaway.

@francophillips2156

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience if i could have any great players full swing it would probably be Mike Dunaway. Amazing to watch. Thanks for the reply Christo!

Now this was an informative video explaining what you mean by OTT. And clearly speaks to what you mean when you and the pro's in your video describe it. I don't know when you made this video but it should have lead off any prior videos related to the subject. I am surprised that you are surprised that the term would have a negative connotation to many golfers. Which was the source of my original note to you. I have been playing golf for 60 years and OTT always referred to moving the right shoulder out initiating the downswing and obliterating the plane at contact. In fact, when I was very young, I played OTT in the "negative" sense, aiming right and pulling the golf ball down the fairway. It worked ok unless I accidentally swung correctly and fired the ball into the trees or water as the case may be. With your explanation, I think I can now watch and understand the nuances of the swings you show.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I'm happy to hear that, John. I've talked about this subject at various times throughout My Swing Evolution and it's a mistake to assume everyone knows what I'm talking about. Cheers!

Happy Easter everyone and happy OTT times :) Again Christo another great video .. much thanks .. keep the good times rolling with OTT … yes waking up the world 👍..,, that comment by the commentor re .. Craig parry .. I think it was Johnny miller :( A bit harsh saying ‘Craig parry Resembling a 15 handicapper with the OTT move and if hogan was alive and saw Craig parry swinging he would peuk’ well that 15 handicapper amateur if he had parry’s swing would be the best double digit player in the world … lol Craig party had a awesome record world wide .. who can remember the slam dunk 6 iron over water on the last to win at sawgrass .. (I think it was sawgrass .. ) he had a impressive record in big events and nearly won the British open ….his OTT swing repeats and repeats and repeats .., anyway I got that off my chest lol 😂 .. anyway keep the great work going christo your a legend

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Anton. Craig Parry could flat out play. His swing was so solid and folks like Miller saying that shows that they simply don't know!

Does anyone know who the 1st golfer is in this video? The time is 21 seconds into the video.

If you want to see a great OTT Hogan like swing, check out Gardner Dickinson, which I’m surprised you haven’t shown yet Christo given he was a student of Mr Hogan

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion. I'm working as fast as I can!

Christo, check me to see if I understand you correctly. OTT is over the inside backswing hand path. But it does not mean the clubhead approaches the ball from the other side of the flight line. Is that a clear understanding of what you are saying?

With the OTT swing, the hands do come over the hand position from the start. What people don’t understand is what the club head does. It starts down just under the plane. This is why 99 percent of pro golfers at impact have the hands higher than the original start position, yet the trail forearm is on plane from underneath. Through impact the lead forearm follows the elbow plane from address and the trail forearm follows the shaft plane at address. This creates a very stable clubhead at impact. It’s physics. It’s the same as a street sign hung out from a pole. Your lead arm is the above diagonal chain and your trail arm is the bar coming straight out from the pole. Your club is the sign. Your body is the pole. As you rotate the force of gravity gets added to the rotation force outward. Angle the pole and rotate the sign. The sign will stabilize outward at an angle.

@quantumpotential7639

2 жыл бұрын

I love being a moving street sign that moves the ball towards the cup in just one or two shots.

Dude!!!…I’ve been watching you for years and i took a week or two off and just saw these new vids and went to my backyard mat and tried it and it was an instant improvement ! I feel that after 5 swings with a 7 iron i can’t swing an iron any other way. I’m in San Francisco and hope someday to meet you. Thanks Christo for all you

@quantumpotential7639

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. I hope you two get a chance to play Pebble Beach together one day. This will be an amazing round to watch.

You also are able to control the club face through impact with an over the top swing and it more powerful with out swinging too hard…

Dude I been watching about over the top. I’m pretty sure yours works because you have a flatter backswing. Not much problem to get back on plain

I believe that a huge majority of golfers aim to the right of the target so they have come way over the top of the plane, causing the severe slice. If you have decent aim, then the under then over swing is gold.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I have a tendency to aim to the right too far.

@TSoneonetwo

2 жыл бұрын

your brain knows when your alignment is off, and attempts to correct for it via swing path or the hands.

With the inside takeaway, I’m finding that my body is loading up, in much more fluid and natural way, especially my hips. My arms have never felt so connected, as I initiate my downswing. Elbows feel like they are dropping together, creating a lot of leverage and lag at impact . Cristo, I was wondering if you are experiencing similar feelings in your swing.

@anthonyforeman625

2 жыл бұрын

Brian for me also you could not have said it better. I played like this at a high level for many years and somehow got completely away from it until 2 weeks ago thanks to Christo.. I am now playing good golf again. It was immediate. The inside up move allows me to get into perfect position with no tension or strain. The slight OTT move then puts me in a position now that I feel I can crush/compress the ball as much as I want. I have limited flexibility in my torso but my upper body is still powerfull at 66. I no longer extend or flip now trying to bring the club in to out on the downswing. This needs flexibility or your upper body follows your lower body with a lagging club. This is sin dipped in misery. The OTT puts the club straight down the line and I feel now like I"m covering the ball with my body mass. I am not even thinking about it now.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Brian, taking it inside and up is the way the body wants to work like you were swinging an axe or sledgehammer. Swinging around and up puts you in a poor position to create leverage. I call this a Miracle for a reason!!!

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyforeman625 Hey Tony, it's amazing isn't it? Golf is way harder if you can't leverage the club. I really feel it's a miracle! Have you seen the whole video?

@TheBrothersAmbrose

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience Christo! I was crushing my driver and irons yesterday with over the top swing but every wedge I had was a big time chunk! Any tips?!

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBrothersAmbrose Did you try moving the ball back a bit?

Haven't watched your videos in a while. Why the change in driver?

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

When I was struggling a few months ago I needed a change. And, I picked up a used M4 and really like it.

Moe norman is exactly like this as well. Inside and hands OTT!!

I'd say Hale Irwin would be tops for us Amigo!

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Hale Irwin is on the list. I just bought his book, but he doesn't take it very inside on the backswing.

yea iam you tube famous now thank you cristo

Leitzke was also famous for having such pure ballstriking ability with the least amount of range time. His swing just worked.

@quantumpotential7639

2 жыл бұрын

He was a professional race car driver too. Which means he understood and appreciated power with a simple compression of the gas pedal. OTT is like a gas pedal on an F1. It just zooms off the face of the club like magic.

Note here this is the Vardon 45 folks 100%

Maybe we should call it the "over the back-swing plane" runway #1 💪 all clear for take off control tower please have someone pull the flag this tap in for another 3 is becoming child's play I love this game so much I can't wait to play more golf courses here in Pinehurst it's Disney Land for Golfers here thanks. Now let us pray 🙏.

ahahaha "I wish it would get into your golf swing"

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Me being a smart ass! LOL

Also Jordan Speith has adapted this swing watch his practice swings..

All you have to do is look at Fred Couples Swing! Definitely over the top..

My god but this is funny shite. Comedy gold🤣🤣🤣🤣

People don't seem to understand that you are going over the top but not outside the target line

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

That's all there is to it, Angel.

Maybe a video of players who do not loop over the top is more appropriate...

Apologies .. it was at Doral that Craig parry holed his second with a 7 iron in the first hole of a play off against Scott verplank

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I knew it was one of the Florida courses.

It's over the top, from the inside. You're just going back inside and rerouting, instead of "on plane".

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

First, it is not a miracle swing. It is not over the top of the hips start the downswing. OTT is when the hands start the downswing and the player ends up chopping wood, slicing or ever hooking with fast hands. If you stay connected per Hogan… and start the swing with the lower body..the hips…exit the downswing low left, you will find vast improvement. Nice marketing…but not a miracle swing. Pick up the Hogan lesson book and save your money folks.

@MiracleSwingExperience

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing MV, we appreciate your engagement on the channel, we also appreciate sharing your perspective. We love the Hogan book over here as well.

Oh, and Jumbo Ozaki's another one.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

JUMBO! good one!

Stupidly we have allowed people with great golf skill but poor English skills to communicate to us what is happening.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Haha. I haven't looked at it that way!

This guy does more videos with less actual instructional content than just about anything out there. A lot of talk about the OTT swing, and plugs for future training sessions, but little practical advice on how to execute the swing. Watching video clips of professional golfers is fine, but most golfer don't have the time or ability to copy Tiger Woods, Tom Watson, Johnny Miller, or Ben Hogan by watching video clips of their swings.

@jonnyincognito899

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Basically his videos are ads for his online or personal training 💸

Diddly squat

Hi Christo I finally get what you are saying and in fact am doing it quite well for myself now. Let me know if you wish me to delete this after reading; because I may have spilled the beans. However I was definitely confused with your figure eight drill that actually if applied to my golf swing would cause a bad slice. And let’s face it your practice figure 8 drill looked nothing like your real swing. Does it? Also using your hands as if you are doing an overhand throwing the head of the club to the ball; also threw me off what you were talking about. So when I told you I thought I might be doing something different with my OTT swing then what you teach; you replied to me: “everyone has to figure it out on their own.” And I replied well I was just comparing notes. So at any rate listening to various commentators on great golfers on this particular video doing an over the top golf swing; I personally notice that this move was definitely done exclusively through the action of the looping of their trail elbow and trail knee bending inward at the exact same time So now whether I swing deep inside as you do or a flying elbow swing like Freddie Couples does I discovered my own secret sauce was not thinking of my moving shoulders or even what my hand and wrists did; but simply looping my trail elbow inside and bending my trail knee towards my target at the exact same time to initiate and finish my downswing. It is really that easy. Actually i just watched your right elbow explanation on your premium station so I guess we are back on the same track after all. 😮Do you also think of your right knee bending moving towards your target as you execute your swing with your right elbow? You never mentioned this. Did you? I think I discovered this combination on my own. Cheers. ⛳️😃👍❤️🥂

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I do the quarterback move with my elbow. I wasn't trying to be flippant about figuring it out for yourself. You just have to experiment on your own body to see how to leverage the club.

@thomasfraser9072

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience yes the quarterback throw works well also and the move originates from the trail elbow. I think we talked about that a few years back when both of us were trying to separate our trail elbow more from our side. Remember? You did not mention it as an OTT swing then. It is funny how old discussions are suddenly fresh again. Cheers 🥂

@thomasfraser9072

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience also the simultaneous move of the quarterback throws and trail knee moving inward towards the target automatically causes a natural dipping of the trail hip perfectly and prevents the lead hip from turning too quickly spinning out of control. Another words the two movements together are what creates the secondary tilt of a great golfers swing. You can actually feel it happening without trying to cause it on your own. Cheers

@thomasfraser9072

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience I reviewed your video for the forth time. Your shifting your weight on your lead side as you are swinging your club back I do not do this at all as I simply do my 1/2 step pivot and this balances my swing circle center perfectly. So I now don’t know if you could possibly start your backswing bending your trail knee forward towards your target in conjunction with your quarterback throw as I am doing. Can you? On second thought i think you can. Cheers

@maeu59

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience I don’t know if you ever heard of Lee Comeaux ( one of the best swings out there) but he’s been talking about this forever, check out his latest video, he actually mentions you at the end. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lGt726utn5XSkdI.html

All guesswork and bullshit as usual. None of them tour pros or swing gurus understood or understands the golf swing, (some could be dead ). If they did none would use the OTT concept in the first place.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I follow.

Call it want ya want fellas just try it

I swing OTT play off 3 handicap right now 🥹 that’s right Mr Tom Watson says swing OTT all the way