Ok 10 days in and 3 rounds using this OTT method. Report: Drives 15 to 20 yard gain, mostly off to the right just off fairways. Long irons and woods are stripes down the middle and solid long. Mid irons straight with some gain in distance. Short irons pulls put mostly GIR. I/d call the ball striking great. All solidly struck, no more fat shots. Friends ask why are you over swinging? My reply, why is my score 6 to 8 strokes better? I am definitely sticking with this as my left knee and right hip dont hurt after I play. You are def on right path.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

This is simply wonderful to hear. I keep getting reports like this! Could it be that the world of elite golf instruction was actually wrong? Starting to look that way to me! Great work, Geronimo.

Love your channel. I actually have a bit of a Hogan story of my own. I obviously never played golf with Mr. Hogan but I did play a round of matchplay with someone who played with him in the Masters. Being a huge Hogan fan I asked him what it was like. He said contrary to the myth about Mr. Hogan being a bit gruff and unfriendly he found him to be quite friendly and even a bit chatty. He said, to paraphrase him as accurately as I can remember, "his first shot was a bit of a hook, but every shot after that came off the precise centre of the club and followed the precise shape of the hole".

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine seeing that in person. Wow. I wish I could have. Thanks for sharing.

@jassonsw

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience My pleasure, it gave me a few goose bumps when I heard it to be honest.

Wow! Such a beautiful rhythmic golf swing! Jack Nicklaus said, as long as you get to your left side on the downswing, you can release the club as hard as you want from the top which you are definitely doing! The power you are getting is so phenomenal!! And your swing also looks so effortless and smooth! Great job Christo! Thank you so much for your teachings.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

John, thank you so much. It's so nice of you to say and Jack is someone to trust for sure.

@yooper9062

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience Do you have good drills to really get the hogan feel for the down swing initiation? I usually start the downswing by shifting my hips toward the target which lets the club drop and then everything rotate together. But I see that Hogan starts the downswing with more of a rotation of the hips/lower body. His seems like a combo of rotation and shift. Is that fair to say?

It's a very hands timing swing .hard to Master..... great 👍 video

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

It’s less handsy than my previous swing.

The swing you are talking about is the key. Sean Foley explains this in his video talking about the Divergence Plane. The hips have to clear first or one will hit a push/block. When one clears the hips and is on the Divergence Plane one is fully connected(the body and club are one). I believe it is that full connection with the hips leading that all great strikers of the golf ball have in common. In all sports, the legs lead the way first. Their setups and backswings might be different but their fore-swings all have the same positions. It is what you refer to as you Over The Top Miracle Swing. I appreciate your content and enthusiasm.

Early extension/early hip firing has been my big issue too, thought it was just me that when I tried the more George Knudson move my blocks weren't as bad. My home courses first hole is super tough if you have a block, with this inside move my block just put my second shot in the greenside bunker where as before it was ALWAYS in the water. First round trying this I had 46% driving accuracy and lost only 2 balls, which for me is a GAME CHANGER.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

That's wonderful to hear! I've been a blocker my whole life. As long as I'm patient in transition, it simply doesn't happen anymore!

WOW! very nice.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, man.

Great video Christo! I'll check out the new drill on MSE TV.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Great Thomas!

Your swing is looking like butter…I love it 😊..

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Very nice of you to say, Wayne. I've been putting in a lot of time on it!

Hogan in his videos , he played his Irons middle of stance. Just curious.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I see that. But he says two inches inside the lead heel.

9:42 ... except when you make contact with the ball your right elbow is way off of your body whereas Hogan's right elbow is glued to his side at and through impact.

Hi Christo. 11 years ago you made a video called The Golden Loop. Which you are actually demonstrating today. To achieve this all I do is use both of my humerus bones and swing them from my two shoulders like a triangular pendulum. That is it! Hope you give it a try. My club head following the path I am sending it to directly to my ball I am an upper body swinger of the golf club and my lower body naturally réponds in balance to a full trail heel away classic finish. It works with every club in my bag. Not just the driver. Cheers

@marywilson9898

2 жыл бұрын

Use your swing, your very own swing donnt copy Hogan or eny one else , you and your own xwing willplay great golf

@thomasfraser9072

2 жыл бұрын

@@marywilson9898 Very true. It’s time to play golf

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

My loop goes the other way now.

@thomasfraser9072

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience clockwise right? Not counterclockwise as it would go in a figure 8 drill you teach. Correct? Yes Bobby Jones club head does trace left over the top. But does yours? Your body turns left as your club head takes a sharp right at the transitional part of your downswing. In both cases It’s a matter of physics that produces the lagging of your club head behind. Cheers

Thanks for ur content.. I’m starting to strike it decent now… Wish me luck for breaking 100

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome! If you'd like to deep explanation on OTT pick up the video! myswingevolution.com/collections/all-products

@ironsideeve2955

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience i'm already subbed mate. I actually believe that it probably doesnt matter if ur coming OTT or going the other way, its what gets ur right arm coming just in front and connected/lined up with ur body. For me, i need a neutral(ish) backswing and think about coming from the inside a little bit as I naturally come way over the top and get my arms disconnected. i tried going deep on the takeback (as you recommended) and coming OTT and it leads to inconsistent strikes for me

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

@@ironsideeve2955 I believe it’s good to try different things. I also believe it’s easier to go OTT from a deep backswing. Good luck breaking 100! You can do it.

I just want to say I've had one range session so far using ott moves......I'm exagerrating it to hopefully ingrain this faster ....it's obviously not perfect but it took 3 shots before I hit one of the best irons of my life ....the irons in particular were way way better, and it's freed up my ability to apply power. End result is all clubs are going further and more accurate. Whats not to like !! A big big thank you

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Right on, Remy. Once I hit that first super pure iron shot, I knew there was no going back!

@PirateRemy

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience At 63 I guess Ive gone through a similar process as you have, my swing has evolved , sometimes with frustrating results. Up to this point the best advice I ever recieved was 'maybe lower my expectations'...that taught me to be humble about this game ...instead of expecting miracles ... The modern swing taught these days is tremendously difficult ...the one plane swing helped .. but this is a miracle because I've been trying to do the opposite of this all of my golfing life, even looking disdainfully at OTT slicers . So as golf often gives us this is a chastening and humbling moment.. the feeling of powering a driver way past where my ball used to land , or picking a spot on the range way further than the Iron would normally go and hitting it accurately with a soaring iron shot was beyond any expectation. It's hard to believe it's happening ..Im excited but waiting for the beat down....it wi take time to fine tune of course..we never beat this game but looking at the videos of those old masters of golf has me doubly convinced. I sent a message to you before as I asked my local teaching professional what she thought of this OTT move ..she basically became defensive and quite rude dismissive as I guess it is the opposite to what she teaches. She wasn't to happy when I reeled off names like Jones, Palmer, Byron Nelson, Demaret, Knudson, Snead, Player etc. ..I wasn't trying to be a smart ass ..I was just interested in her thoughts but wow it was an interesting response. This is not only easy to do, it actually works instantly ..in 3 swings ...not months of trying to get it right ...Amazing !

Love your videos. Seen probably all of them. Is it worth highlighting the camera angle can sometimes affect things i.e. it is imo possible for a perfectly on plane swing to appear ott if the camera angle is not down the line but much more right

Where's this course?

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Eaton Canyon Golf Course in Pasadena

Since the downswing is narrower than the backswing the camera should be directly behind the golfer (3 ft. or so to the left of where it is now) if you're comparing the two planes.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I was told it needs to be down the target line. I'll try it out, thanks.

Hello Christo, I’m interested in what you said about the throwing hand, the timing and release, mine gets out of sync. Thanks john MSE member. Thank you.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Hi John! As I lift my right arm I start to go left. Once I've gotten over the top (think like a roller coaster cresting a big hill) then I can throw on the downswing!

You know you're business better than most Christo, but if I may please add a note to your channel. This swing, when you're ready needs to be put under pressure, so if we could have some course vlogs and scores that would be great. P.S I went to range with this and am getting used to it very quickly. The real lesson is "Knowledge is that which benefits, not that which is memorised." Sheikh al-Shafi,

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I shot 34 last week in a 9 hole skins game and won 2 skins and a closest to the pin. I don't like to film when I'm playing guys for money though.

@truthlifefishing1730

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience Ok. Also the OTT swing sends the butt of the grip slightly left at impact, which is where it is supposed to be NOT heading right with the inside to out swing. I just saw it on another non related video and thought of you.

Very good timing. 1) Do you feel like you are throwing the clubhead down into the ball like you showed when throwing a football? 2) Also, do you feel pressure in your right fingers as you swing down, as if you are trying to keep the club "bowed" back like a fly rod would be when casting it out? Thank you.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Yes to both questions. That's what makes this super simple! You should get the video. It makes everything super clear! myswingevolution.com/collections/all-products

Hey Cristo, how do you explain the fact that your clubhead position at the top is about 45 degrees different than Hogans? His hangs nearly straight down, and yours nearly faces the sky, and he's got a pretty flat swing?

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

My grip is stronger.

@mitchmarland

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience yeah I know that. I mean if you're trying to swing like Ben Hogan why don't you use a weaker grip. Btw I don't think him and moe norman had "weak" grips, they just weren't super strong. I think they have the best impact position because of it. Strong grips are crap in my opinion. You can't bow down that wrist with a strong grip. But there are tricks to it though.

@dougkercher102

2 жыл бұрын

@@mitchmarland that was answered well....

hands in...clubhead out call it what you will... OTT not from the top but from the point where Hogan said..." the hips give the hands a free ride into the impact".... then.......THEN......the "two right hands" delivering what Christo refers to as OTT. Hands in...clubhead out. Christo...I think you must emphasize WHEN the OTT feel happens.....and I think it is LATE in the downswing. Below the hips.

@patrickberkery8854

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. That's a great description. Low and left,. Almost feels way left to me. Keeping the saggiteal plane and spine angle to let the hip through. Feels like I'm almost going to put my right hand in my right pocket, but I keep rotating and get on the outside (mostly aft) left foot naturally. Everything just happens.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I’m feeling the three right hands more than ever. I feel the OTT in transition, then I just hit down on it.

@bjohnson515

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience Club out hands in. Is over the top the right description though? Out and on top... or something else? Over the top from a steep backswing is no good. Malaska teaches the move, and I dont think he ever used that term.

What a great channel I love the way you're trying to work like Ben Hogan. But with all due respect my friend I'm not a touring pro or a PGA professional but it definitely does not look like you are coming over the top to me and if you are coming over the top could you let me know how to hit a draw from coming over the top!!!. Thanks again for the great channel keep up the good work

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I've talked about why my swing looks how it does and I'll have to make another video on it. You can hit a draw if you're still a bit inside out with the path. I still hit a draw with my irons this way.

How far are you getting your drives with OTT?

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

I've recently hit some of the longest drives of my life with this swing. Monster freaking drives at 53!

Did Gary Player ever comment on your swing or give any advice?

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

He said, "I love your swing!" Biggest compliment I've ever had.

Are you hitting a gs 53 max

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

No, but I'm about to pull the regular GS53 out.

@AlanDWitte

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience finally was able to get out to the range yesterday!!! I'm looking forward to getting back on the course next week. Icon's are fit perfectly!

Hogan had to change his swing due to a car accident and pain in his legs.

There is only one way to convince anyone. You must qualify and place on top 10 at the 2022 u s open qualifying paperwork begins in April ie already begun

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

All right! I'm in!

@alanshinny4565

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiracleSwingExperience that's the spirit. Remember Francis ouimet

Jim McLean has a free lesson on KZread and it's called the reverse loop.

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

That's cool. I need to check that out.

What a miracle, now you are back swinging like 90% of all choppers. Instead of your misses comprised of low divers left and high pushes right, you will now have the dreaded double cross and slice to deal with. I think the real miracle will be when you decide to play golf instead of golf swing. That's my two cents. Not looking for agreement.

@PirateRemy

2 жыл бұрын

Golf isn't a game of perfect and never will be

@MiracleSwingExperience

2 жыл бұрын

Haha. I obviously don’t agree with you because I’m finally playing golf. Good golf. Soon to be great golf.

Your shoulder plane is much flatter than Mr. Hogan and your left arm has rolled so the left elbow is pointing out....

take a DTL still of your swing from address, top, impact.... do the same with Ben Hogan....now put into sequential powerpoint slides and see how your head position is nothing like Ben Hogan's... the head movement tells a lot about the type of release. Until you release like Ben Hogan, you are just a poor facsimile.

Once you say “over the top” I immediately don’t want to see this video. 😂. Just an uncomfortable connotation.