I live near Baltimore and have met all types of people who have fled the city. None of them ever said that they left because of the police they have ALL said they left because of the criminals.

@deviantmoore9744

Жыл бұрын

Police and criminal activity go hand in hand. What are the police doing to combat that criminal activity? Barely anything. That's why people were calling for the defunding.

@Igetsitin89

Жыл бұрын

@@deviantmoore9744 no they defunded the police cus police brutally

@lsghousingcommunity1996

Жыл бұрын

and the area they move to the crimes go up....

@terriblefrosting

Жыл бұрын

Nice sidestep that completely ignores the root cause of both WHY there is so much crime, and WHY the police are such a massive part of the problem.

@ethanthomas1148

Жыл бұрын

@@deviantmoore9744 what do you want them to do? Infringe on your rights…?

BLM founders living it large though.

@joeyharper4976

Жыл бұрын

Shhhh 🤫 You can't talk about that.

@dancalmpeaceful3903

Жыл бұрын

They're the ones getting the last laugh....all the way to the bank.

@warlockdiaries7753

9 ай бұрын

American anarchy

@seminolewind158

8 ай бұрын

Not for long!

@gumbyrotten

8 ай бұрын

BLM 99% criminals who think they have a right to steal and plunder PLUS they think if you arrest them - its racist lol

People can’t keep saying “ defund the police” and then are surprised when a police officer takes hours to show up after their emergency call . They are understaffed right now because many cops can’t take it anymore. This is what some of you guys wanted. And it won’t end well . Some neighborhoods are having issues where police offers don’t show up until 2 hours later. You guys asked for this.

@HippieJoe

Жыл бұрын

Grab a gun and solve your own problem. What do you think happened 400 years ago when policing wasn't globally available? I think cop response time can be over an hour already in large, dense cities, while a law abiding citizen could be at the scene in literal minutes. Most people don't take action because they fear retaliation from the government. As a conservative, I believe the police are a waste of funds to an extent and should have limited power.

@BadBrucey

Жыл бұрын

So basically saying you can never criticize the police or they'll act like petulant children and not do their job.

@Lol-vt2ln

Жыл бұрын

@@BadBrucey strawman detected, opinion rejected. Action to defund the police is far different than just complaining about said police genius.

@BadBrucey

Жыл бұрын

@@Lol-vt2ln LOL. You have no clue what a strawman argument is do you?

@Lol-vt2ln

Жыл бұрын

@@BadBrucey you literally started the sentence with “so basically saying” and anyone with eyes can clearly see he was referring to people who want the police defunded and not critics as a whole. Your last reply just cries insecure.

People who actually care about their community don't like crime. Imagine that. It's up to the community to look within and fix their pathological behavior.

@dickmelsonlupot7697

Жыл бұрын

we're talking about a community filled with majority black people here. Like it or not, these are types who were conditioned *FOR YEARS* to think and act like victims just because they are black and then blame the government or the police for their problems when 99% of their problems are actually caused by their decisions and bad behavior. Plus they even have the gall to claim the pains, trials and tribulations of their ancestors or those before them as their own as if they're the actual victims when in reality they are far better off now than their predecessors. Barely any or even *NONE* will admit that the crime their is actually *THEIR FAULT* and that the supposed "pOwLeEz bRoOtAaLeEtEe" are actually an after-effect of their misconduct. If they would for once just drop their "gangstah" behavior and act like normal, well-mannered and behaved people, none of their problems now would even occur.

@loturzelrestaurant

Жыл бұрын

​@@dickmelsonlupot7697 Youre literally the 'Average Citizen who dont know what Defund-the-Police even meansw' that Some-More-News made his video for??

@dickmelsonlupot7697

Жыл бұрын

@@loturzelrestaurant Dude, I'm from the Philippines. Crime and the shhhtt going on here especially in places like Manila makes what happens in Detroit look like a nursery fight between toddlers. And even here we know that defunding the police is a stupid idea and that funding them more, funding them properly and making sure the money they get actually gets into the hands of the hardworking officers and for them to get the best equipment our budget can get them is the best solution there is. So no, shthtt the fckkk up in saying that I don't know shttt when I literally know shhttt far better than you

@joeyharper4976

Жыл бұрын

@@dickmelsonlupot7697 Maybe the black community needs to fix their failed voting habits.

@loturzelrestaurant

Жыл бұрын

@@fredfreddy8684 What about how all the Experts define it? Finish the Video 'DEFINING Defund-the-Police' By Some More News and then tell me again it was so dumb.

"What Happened to the Defund the Police Movement?" Elections were over, that what happened

@invisiblerevolution

2 жыл бұрын

Realist comment yet!

@fallencrow6718

2 жыл бұрын

The usefull idiots are now expendable.

@kusho3800

2 жыл бұрын

lets go brandQn 🤪

@10Wk3y84R

2 жыл бұрын

@@kusho3800 trump lost btw

@QuickStix26

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo!

I remember when everyone was saying the money for police was gonna go to prevention and rehabilitation instead of punishing people. LMAO, how quickly have things changed! I think that might have been the fastest reversal of opinion/policy ever!

@davidchristian8447

2 жыл бұрын

It would be... if it were ever implemented or even seriously considered.

@littlebitofhope1489

2 жыл бұрын

It was supposed to go to services who won't shoot people who are ill too. It never was a policy, and it STILL is the opinion of smart people.

@littlebitofhope1489

2 жыл бұрын

@@701delbronx8 Wow, you get the Non Sequitur Award. Congrats!

@littlebitofhope1489

2 жыл бұрын

@@701delbronx8 Redirecting funds from the police for jobs they no longer do, to people who are actually QUALIFIED to do those jobs lowers crime. I'm on the side of reason.

@USSAnimeNCC-

2 жыл бұрын

Also we're giving so much money to the police and for what to show for also I think police is more of a reactionary response to crime not really preventative

“Defund the police” was a poorly advised rallying cry to begin with. Way too polarizing, not enough nuance, and was never going to get off the ground. There should have been a movement the likes of “fund our streets” that focused on community investment and restorative services. These streets are too wild for the average suburban voter to entertain “defunding” the police.

@ataraxia7439

2 жыл бұрын

If you wanted to sway people away from defunding the police this would be the most persuasive way to do so. I think ppl could retort that a lot of the finances to go into services and restorative help can get sucked up by large militarized police forces but even then you’ve moved the conversation to budget distribution and that’s already constructive

@kevincuevas8877

2 жыл бұрын

Defunding the police was always associated with funding other services. It never was "defund the police only" the polarization came from people disingenuously talking past each other and tone policing

@the2ndcoming135

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, nothing a little overlook here and pay no mind there can’t fix right, buddy?😉

@surgec

2 жыл бұрын

Kinda like "Build the Wall"

@normandy2501

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevincuevas8877 After the first Trump election, you would be kinda stupid not to police your tone even a little bit. Saying "Reform the Police" just invites more people you want to the table, mainly independents, centrists, and only slightly right leaning people. "Defund" did actually mean only that and nothing else for a lot of progressives, or at least enough to cause infighting on the issue.

The problem with "defund the police" is no advocate has ever articulated what it actually entails. Is it simply the moving of some funds away from traditional law enforcement towards alternative crime fighting means, or is it something more ambitious?

@Trendsetter5420

2 жыл бұрын

This

@four-x-trading5606

2 жыл бұрын

What's it matter to you if a cop kills someone over a normal everyday citizen is there really a difference or it just "sounds" better to you since it's a cop?

@alexgray2482

2 жыл бұрын

@@four-x-trading5606 If a cop murders someone then it's still murder. How does that affect my point?

@four-x-trading5606

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexgray2482 exactly

@kommisar.

2 жыл бұрын

@@four-x-trading5606 You said "killed", not "murdered". There's a big difference between the two. You're not specifying if a cop killing someone is murder or not. Statistically speaking, when a cop kills someone, it is justified. When a civilian kills someone, it is not. Of course there are exceptions, by I am speaking strictly in terms of probability. Cops are placed in positions where they're required to shoot people more often than civilians.

"defund the police" was the wrong slogan for noticing a valid problem. We need to focus the police's scope of work into actual policing, not doing the stuff that mental health professionals should be doing. Also quotas for traffic violations are a huge problem.

@jaymatchen6574

2 жыл бұрын

there's zero proof police have traffic quotas...people should be focusing on real problems

@alexill

2 жыл бұрын

The increase in traffic deaths is a huge problem. The laws need to be enforced, sorry you don’t like that.

@camerongates5752

2 жыл бұрын

except the laws are only “enforced” in low-income communities and communities of color

@TJD405

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexill Unless you have some form of valid proof your statement is garbage.

@jdreign7210

2 жыл бұрын

City doesnt have that quota, county does. But yes you are absolutely right. But they have no applicants for police or for the potential alternatives to police

Since "defunding" the police became the trend, many cities are now refunding police budgets due to a rampant increase in crimes and drug abuse. I agree to abuses in many Police dept's needed to be stopped and addressed.

@jared3519

2 жыл бұрын

increasing the police budget doesn’t make the community safer, that is a fallacy.

@wovasteengova

2 жыл бұрын

@@jared3519 faxs. But training the police 'correctly' can. You can have all the money in the world, and still have shitty trainin

@TheRed02151

2 жыл бұрын

@@jared3519 What happens is that the far left ignores this security because it would mean suggesting that the police are doing their job, which they are for the most part. Don't get me wrong the police still need reform in a lot of areas to become more well defined and limit unneeded death. But TO REFORM means you need money. Organizations cannot function nor reform at a deficit.

@dannyh9543

2 жыл бұрын

@@jared3519 are you serious? Having a higher budget for the police means more officers which means more time spent policing up bad areas it's not a fallacy regardless of what they tell you on tiktok or Twitter or where ever you kids get your information from nowadays

@dannyh9543

2 жыл бұрын

@@edencastillo4417 where are you getting this information from? What are your sources? I would love to hear your ideas on how to reduce crime in urban areas especially coming from you which I'm willing to bet you are a white person so please enlighten us

Don’t worry in the next election cycle it will come back, and with some new movement. Then some normal person will say they are the leader of that movement and next thing you know they are living in mansions. Communities that need help guess what? They will still look the same while more people get rich. Politicians use tragedies to their advantage. It’s horrible

@Wapak95

2 ай бұрын

*looks at profile pic Yep, you truly understand their situation.

@youtubeconnollyfamily

2 ай бұрын

@@Wapak95 look at your profile pic. You truly understand their situation by living in a cartoon right. You have no freaking clue where I grew up. You probably wouldn’t last one day in the neighborhood I grew up in. Don’t pretend you know somebody just because of their skin color. You’re getting mad at me for trying to help. How pathetic of a person are you? You seem like you’re just part of the problem.

It is easy to put blame on one side but we need to look at own community. Our community becomes what we allowed it to become

@yoellopez82

2 жыл бұрын

Stop voting democrat thats a start.

@kimjohnson1144

Жыл бұрын

I agree! The communities should band together to end crime. However, the crime has gotten worst. I see less police and more criminals.

@slevinchannel7589

Жыл бұрын

@@caaarbz Do you know what Defund the Police even means? Have you even seen Some-More-News define it?

@geraldvance7925

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. There are way too many black people blaming the issues in the black community on the police or non blacks who don't even live there. Single mother households, Gang initiations and black on black crime is more devastating to the black community than the police or white people in the suburbs. Until people in the black community start realizing that they are doomed. Black people kill each other more than the KKK or the police put together night after night in America. Until that's addressed or recognized there's no hope.

@incurableromantic4006

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. Certain communities would much rather put up with sky high crime and violence generation after generation than look at itself in the mirror.

The problem with that movement is it was riding on reactions and impulse. It wasn't thought out, its a half-assed plan whose premise went way too far. Even if they weren't actually calling to abolish the police or anything like that, the slogan of "defund the police" comes off as extreme to the average person. It was a poorly-made campaign.

@hamishthemack4565

2 жыл бұрын

Police arent the problem, thugs are, so more black people died because of police inaction.

@softlightlaboratory

2 жыл бұрын

No it didn't show about we find how where the idea came from First like where did it come from?

@softlightlaboratory

2 жыл бұрын

How*

@foogonechill1765

2 жыл бұрын

@@softlightlaboratory if English isn't your first language then maybe this subject doesn't involve you

@LazarusSlade

2 жыл бұрын

Really!? You're surprised this idea was impulsive and not well thought out!? Now tell me who's the kind of population infamous for their lack of impulse control, that always react with physical violence and go to physical altercations because of the slightest offense! Tell me who are the people that go berserk because of a word! People whose fragility it's so in your face is exhausting! Tell me how this idea wasn't going to backfire!?

They say it over and over, they dont want police reform, they want community reform and that's what is really needed. "We dont need more police out there catching killers, we need less killers" Ray Kelly, direct quote from the documentary.

@biggiesmalls7939

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that isn't somethign the government should be responsible for to an extent. Preventing/Rehabilitating ill-intentioned people lands directly in the laps of their peers. The government/police hasn't failed us, it's the community.

@KatieCollix

2 жыл бұрын

@@biggiesmalls7939 What power would the every-day person have to rehabilitate? I agree it is a communal effort to prevent. However, what's your proposal for rehabilitating? It seems like the community's responsibility would be to advocate and assist in the rehabilitation efforts. To some extent, the gov would need to get involved (If we are talking about creating high quality, community led coalitions, there would be a need for funding. If not, then it would just be effective for a select few or it would be ineffective for all and we'd be in this same situation.) but I agree, it's not the role of the Police. The criminal justice system is not design to rehabilitate in its current form. I am just curious to understand your proposal for how the community could create an effective rehabilitative program.

@makslargu5799

2 жыл бұрын

@@biggiesmalls7939 how is the average community going to do things like reduce pollution (heavy metal poisoning is linked to more violent behaviour), increase job and education opportunities etc. without government funding and support?

@biggiesmalls7939

2 жыл бұрын

@@makslargu5799 I was referring to parenting and being a model citizen.....

@rs72098

2 жыл бұрын

Fear of the law, and fear of imprisonment leads to less killers. That's the truth. That's how things have worked for thousands of years. People need to realize this.

It got defunded and the criminals got bold. Crime crime and more crime. 😂

@moblife223

2 жыл бұрын

Defunding the police means open season on drug dealers rapists murderers. Aka different good guys with guns will deal with the sacs o shyt. 🤷‍♂️

Anytime I hear community activist I turn away lol 😂

@slevinchannel7589

Жыл бұрын

...Well, that claim is easy to debunk. Here, 'Defund the Police' was defined correctly in the video by 'Some More News' that literally talks about Defund the Police and how people are r/confidentlyincorrect about it - like you are. C'mon, lets test. We both watch the video and then we see.

@jeffreysendall3971

Жыл бұрын

Women who put "feminist, ACAB" in their tinder bio 😬

@dancalmpeaceful3903

Жыл бұрын

Community activists are basically people who have NEVER or can't get a REAL job.

@manlybaker3098

Жыл бұрын

ACTIVIST => Person who makes lots of noise, leaves loads of trash, but feels better about themselves when they return to their normal lives far away from the problem.

@John-zm5kk

5 ай бұрын

Agreed 👍

"Defund the police" is a moronic slogan. "Improve and reform policing, with more investment in education and mental health" was too complicated for a quick media soundbite though.

@Kick_Rocks

2 жыл бұрын

What about the term police reform?

@itheuserfirst3186

2 жыл бұрын

Whoever is coming up with these ill nuanced, and antagonistic slogans within these groups, needs to be reassigned to a different job.

@MrMr-ws3tv

2 жыл бұрын

@@itheuserfirst3186 I think they all live in mansion's now and care nothing about your petty problems. BLM scammed people real good.

@casperchristensen6451

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kick_Rocks I believe they tried that for like 10+ years.. I agree though, that defund the police sounds too extreme.

@asecretturning

2 жыл бұрын

Nope

People realized how dumb a blanket statement it is, and that nuance is needed to create a solution that approached reducing crime in the most effective manner.

@ns8158

2 жыл бұрын

"Defund the police" and "ACAB" are both terrible slogans and I don't get how people didn't understand this from the start. What did they think the reaction to that would be? I know people who have been in the police force, who have explained some of their concerns and frustrations with their job, as well as the people they deal with (both in and out of the police). I'm not going to demonize an entire profession for the actions of some of their constituents. But I also realize there is corruption and a need for reform. That won't happen if people are split between reform and actually defunding law enforcement though, because they picked an idiotic slogan that doesn't even represent what their supposed goal is.

@cartersmith8662

2 жыл бұрын

@@ns8158 this was said in a very articulate way, couldn’t have said it better myself, glad I’m not the only one who feels this way

@asecretturning

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong

@sumdumbbeats9879

2 жыл бұрын

I agree and I think most effective way to deal with crime is to actually take funding from police which on average is about 60 percent of your states budget. Maybe call this defunding police and moving those resources to fix social issues that causes crime to begin with. Like poverty and mental health issues.

@ablemagawitch

2 жыл бұрын

TL;DR but just the 1 st paragraph should start helping , the Temperance Movement from the 18th amendment showed us the public is our worse enemy. The law makers gave us actually what the masses wanted. Just like with the crack epidemic and lifetime sentences for crack offenses... Anyone who has slogan that people are convinced that this simple solution will solve a complex problem, never learned their history. Be it ban police, ban guns, just stop X and no more Y happens sounds great but fails. Look at The "Temperance Movement" that caused the 18th Amendment(one of the worst) lasted for about ten years to fully repealed but during that time made criminals out of many harmless people and activities, it also help create and give us the plague of organized violent crime syndicates/gangs. Because they convinced everyone "if we just banned alcohol it would cure all of society ills" from laziness, to homelessness, to mental health issues, etc.... Which it did not and this lesson is not taught as it should be in history, in school, in the home, in the church, nor from mentor to under educated person. Banning something, to solve a problem seems the easy fix but seldom does it solve the actual problems that what item/group was villianized for. We have problem that it starts with reforming the police, fixing the prison system, starting with no more "for profit prisons" that no incentive to have their inmates not re-offend, because that is just a bad business model. Prisons & jails systems are full of scams upon scams that prey on both the community paying for them, the prisoners in the cells, and their families to benefit the corrupt politicians and richer criminals(modern day plantation owners). Then comes reforming the mental health system which badly needs that, where patients are "cured" or in remission right when their insurance limits are reached.... Their is an anti-psychaitry movement(all medical issues have anti- movement/group except this one is not about the disease/disorder but about the abuse they endured while trying to get help in the psychiatric system. If you think strip searching sexual assault victims that are mental health patients in a mental health crisis while being admitted is going to do anything but make them worse, you are part of the problem and not smart enough to be in solution discussions. The mental health system is badly broken and has always been. The only real progress we have made is some on "that is ok to need help" but getting help will instantly bar you from employment in many professions. Going through a divorce and seeking mental health help & support can endanger or end a pilot's career, for just one example If you haven't been through divorce and/or been in battle in court for yourself, you have no clue how abusive and toxic that crap is. Then we still have to fix poverty issues. There is so much that is corrupt and rotten in all the systems, it will take massive undertaking of each to fix the issues. We don't need institutions to lock up people with issues, we don't need to force them on dangerous and unsafe medications, serious medications that have suicide and homicide has black box warnings on them are legal. That is how bad the FDA corruption is... So pile on yet another ""system"" that needs vastly over hauled. We need people to grow up being safe and not develop mental health problems from just living in the USA....... We have generations that will have life long issues from the systems that went corrupt. Court is the power check we have with civil and criminal juries and nullification of laws, but people always try to get out of jury duty. Leaving only those too stupid to come up with an excuse and/or say something to get disqualified or a person that says all the right things because they have an "ax to grind" and will use that juror position to do it.... Which none of the issues stay in the news cycle because we the public quit caring if we continuously keep hearing about it all the time, unless there is emotional manipulate behind the messages. Politicians engaged in disgusting acts and gerrymandering , along with dancing around on the soap box with fresh corpses only to farther their political career.... They don't actual care to fix the issue, and will change the view if the polls don't show enough percentage increases with numbers holding....

It backfired HARD.

@John-zm5kk

5 ай бұрын

Yup.. people will learn the hard way now.. oh well..

I live near Oakland and what I have seen when police are thinned out is a city that is falling apart. Oakland didn't defund police, but the bad press and hatred for them caused many to retire and quit and turned off a lot of potential candidates from becoming officers. There are now around 600 officers when there is a need for 1,000. Add to that the law policies that seem to give criminals more rights than regular citizens and the city is becoming cow dung. I have lived in high crime cities like Birmingham, Atlanta, Baltimore, and New Orleans. But I was never fearful in those cities like I am in Oakland because I knew what I could and couldn't do, even in bad parts of town. But in Oakland, criminals have gotten so bold and fearless (since they know there is not enough police and know that law consequences are weak) that they are doing things that couldn't be imagined several years ago and the measures that someone can take to protect himself/herself are getting less and less.

We don't talk nearly enough about psychologically SCREENING police. If a bully become a cop so he can bully more viciously but with impunity, you're not going to TRAIN him to be better than that. You can train him on HOW to de-escalate a situation, but you can't train him to WANT to.

@LuG8911

2 жыл бұрын

Great point!

@timberwolfe1645

2 жыл бұрын

Oh Shut up. You also have the Hero complex who joins, the goody-two shows, the overbearing feminist too! WHO gets to be a cop, huh? Who decides? That's a whole different kind of discrimination

@jbtechcon7434

2 жыл бұрын

@@timberwolfe1645 You opened with "shut up" and then argued that any form of screening is discrimination. I don't know even know how to communicate with people operating down on your level.

@1320crusier

2 жыл бұрын

PD's have an ever shrinking pool to choose from due to their vilification and lack of nuance in judging specific cases so good luck with getting better candidates.

@grady7420

2 жыл бұрын

It's a white supremacist organization that has it's origin in catching escaped slaves. Its top leadership is full of bigots and murderers. It doesn't matter if you're a 'good guy' going into the police. They are there to oppress marginalized people and protect the rich.

Better policing is something that we have to work on. In the US we deploy police as the only answer for everything. The police only have one tool which is law enforcement. They aren't the answer to most problems and they are not equipped to deal with issues beyond law enforcement. The money needs to go to the best training, background checks, wages, equipment, mental health resources for officers, and research for combating crime, not more guns and other bad investments. We can't expect the best when we are not making it a priority to have high standards and provide them with the tools to be the best police they can be.

@davidqbs

2 жыл бұрын

Part of the solution I think is the adoption of peelian principles

@jerrypolverino6025

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidqbs Most police departments never even heard of the principals.

@houseplant1016

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidqbs Peelian principles?

@JYYB

2 жыл бұрын

This would be nice but our fucked up government wont do this. They rather keep the money for themselves.

@jerrypolverino6025

2 жыл бұрын

@@JYYB Oh yeah!

What happened to it⁉️ Simple answer is Democrats were forced to realize how stupid the idea was to begin with, and Poll numbers are more important.

No stats to back up any claims made in this video. The only stat listed at 4:17 was a slingshotted stat from WP. But that stat is cleaver to not point out how many of those were against an unarmed individual. Year in and year out that stat hovers around a total of around 30 ppl total. Not 1k plus.

@jefflarin3774

Жыл бұрын

Exactly 💯💯💯💯💯 It is as if they want it to look that the bad policemen are killing 1k innocent kids So that they can get some people to hate the heros who protect us

You don’t need to be defunded, just like education the money just needs to go to the right places, and the training needs to be completely revamped

@asecretturning

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, you need to abolish all police and prisons.

@jdsoto492

2 жыл бұрын

@@asecretturning oh God the hell hole this place would become. Please never run for positions of power.

@FrankYammy

2 жыл бұрын

Reformed is a better word

@Leo-zk9rd

2 жыл бұрын

law enforcement in some states is better funded than other countries’ entire armies. The amount of money they get is grossly excessive.

@peterbelanger4094

2 жыл бұрын

@@asecretturning boo hoo street thug doesn't gettin hassled by 'the man'. stop being a street thug then.

Police is to crime what ICU beds were for COVID. The more COVID hospitalizations happened, the more ICU beds you needed. Having more ICU beds didn’t prevent COVID hospitalizations. Once you address the cause of COVID hospitalizations and it begins to reduce, then the need for ICU beds will reduce. Same for crime and police.

@distantraveller9876

2 жыл бұрын

Police are more akin to COVID itself than they are to ICU beds.

@Phoenix227xr

Жыл бұрын

Well said

The truth was that it wasn’t popular, the idea of reform was popular, but by making “defund” the core part of it people blamed all the crime they saw around them on this movement that they saw as getting rid of cops, and it’s support is mostly gone now

When will they address the elephant in the room. Federal government has funded many of these cities in need. The funds disappear with city leaders. There are usually no repercussions from this.

@slevinchannel7589

Жыл бұрын

Seen 'Defining Defund the Police' by 'Some More News'?

It’s accountability that’s needed.

@grady7420

2 жыл бұрын

The police always investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing. They lie to the public and local and national media outlets spew their propoganda. They aren't being held accountable 99.99% of the time. They need to be defunded.

@nunyanope4988

2 жыл бұрын

@@grady7420 Defund the police was the single stupidest “campaign” ever. Crime has sky rocketed. I realize they are not held accountable, that’s why I believe it should change!!!!

@boycottjews

2 жыл бұрын

Cold africa is cringe.

@bald_flop8063

2 жыл бұрын

@@nunyanope4988 an increase in police budgets won't decrease crime. Eliminating poverty will reduce crime

@nunyanope4988

2 жыл бұрын

@@bald_flop8063 Nobody said it would. That doesn’t change the crime rate today.

I absolutely despise police brutality. BUT, very few people want to become officers now. Therefore, we are seeing folks who are less qualified, harder to train correctly, and more prone to corruption. It's already happening.

@flyboy008

2 жыл бұрын

So what’s your suggestions?

@bulldogsbob

2 жыл бұрын

Get off the police’s back.

@kylegaines1268

2 жыл бұрын

Then they will have to pay police a lot more money to attract the people they want. And then after all that, they will have to find way to retain these people.

@AUstudios

2 жыл бұрын

Qualifications for police were already super low in the United states compared to other countries though. Its not like we actually had good standards for basic qualifications of cops b4

@sendthis9480

2 жыл бұрын

@@flyboy008 Stop telling kids they’re important, and can “be anything they want”. Bring back the school bully. Be realistic. People need to know they’re really not that important. The greater good is society…not individual needs. Learn to control folks’ audacity. Teach people to know their role.

Baltimore has a high crime rate, well above the national average. I’m sure this police chief will reduce that and truly make Baltimore residents feel safe 🙄

@jghifiversveiws8729

2 жыл бұрын

You're assuming having more funding for the police will somehow lower the crime rate but this has yet to even be seen.

@ericlane3256

2 жыл бұрын

@@jghifiversveiws8729 This entire video is assuming defunding the police reduces crimes and increases income mobility for people of color. Which remains to be seen

@jamesrobert4106

Жыл бұрын

I wonder what the common denominator is with all these cities?

There are many issues that are associated with crime. Having the father out of the home, bad schools, drugs in the community, and more. While crooked police are definitely an issue it is nowhere near the issues that plague different communities around the US

@wokefromhome7389

2 жыл бұрын

It is one of the issues. An unjust justice system creates more crime by default.

We need more money put into programs outside of the justice system. After school programs, job centers, health care. Not justice systems like more deadly weapons for police.

@thegreataynrand7210

2 жыл бұрын

Criminals are the problem not cops

@wmdkitty

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegreataynrand7210 Cops ARE criminals.

@itheuserfirst3186

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but the increased police weaponry came about as a response to the ever increasing number of guns on the streets. This isn't the 80's. .

@ALotOfCancer

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegreataynrand7210 name checks out…

@thegreataynrand7210

2 жыл бұрын

@@ALotOfCancer Checks out for what? Because common sense doesn't agree with you ?

Make policing a respected job. require a university 4 yr degree, with courses like de escalation, identifying mental distress, compassion, ETHICS, etc etc. Those years in school would weed out most of the thugs that just want a gun cause they were bullied in highschool. And then incentivize that training by zeroing out the student debt after a year on the force with a clean record. Make policing a respected career again. Pay them well for their efforts after going through the education process. By having vastly more intelligent and effective cops, you won't NEED so many of them to handle the same workload. As it stands, it isn't "a few bad apples", the whole culture is poisoned. The tree is rotting and needs to be cut down. we need a whole new orchard.

@Hintedbymarina

2 жыл бұрын

✅👏🏾

@RedsHitpostMedia

2 жыл бұрын

Careful somone will say those words about the criminals on the other side

@arthurcharlie2873

2 жыл бұрын

Not going to happen. After the new era of identify politics and cries of racism a lot of leos retired or just quit. Many places are so desperate they will take anybody that applies. Spike in crime, mass shootings, being called racist, getting spit on isn't worth it anymore. Not to mention what happened in Seattle. That flood of ex military lining up to be a cop is long gone.

@asecretturning

2 жыл бұрын

Abolition, not reform.

@1320crusier

2 жыл бұрын

found the one that just wants to commit crime without punishment.

I believe in our freedoms. If folks think we should defund/disband the police: Let's create a list of their names & addresses. If they call for emergency services: we don't waste time/money.

It was a horrible, ridiculous, awful idea…that’s what happened.

Democrats know they've messed up. LETS GO BRANDON!!

@conservativewarrior777

Жыл бұрын

They know the red wave is coming higher than Godzilla

@John-zm5kk

5 ай бұрын

Trump 2024!!🎉

To protect and serve is an oath and a paid for service so when service hasn't been rendered who will refund the public tax payer's?! Fohs..

@vyros.3234

2 жыл бұрын

I had a stroke reading this

@DgurlSunshine

2 жыл бұрын

THIS ***

@Samuel_Morchin

2 жыл бұрын

@@RepEvox If you're a cop, you had better damn well be sure you are ready to run into a school to stop a mass shooting or be ready to hand in your badge.

People realized it was a ridiculously ignorant thing to push and once crime started to skyrocket 200% they realized how moronic that view is.

@asecretturning

2 жыл бұрын

Trump lost

@twokidsmovies

2 жыл бұрын

@@asecretturning ???????? The sky is blue, so what.....

This should go down as the single worst slogan to have ever been conceived.

@Geodendronitrian

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The worst slogan after that would be "Abolish The Police."

@simp2234

2 жыл бұрын

We need more of this in America

There should be independent audits of these MASSIVE budgets. They include new police facilities, police gear, cars, and tons of other things. That’s great. But they also need to include training, employment opportunities for the community, and direct investment in the community. There is a lot of work to be done all over but the amount that these federal, and local governments bill and set aside in these budgets is enormous. Who is paying for it, and how is it helping the average citizen. With the amount of money they collect, budget, allocate, year after year, you could of built a lot of stuff. Fix a lot of issues.

@KingTrizz

2 жыл бұрын

No, more money should be invested into schools, books, computers, supplies, food, etc for the youth and community. Why do the police need newer facilities, gear, and cars when they’re already fully militarized? they need to be defunded

@nate6045

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome to conduct them yourself. Submit a few FOIA requests and you've got yourself an audit.

@nate6045

2 жыл бұрын

@@KingTrizz That's pretty much what OP said dude

@Samuel_Morchin

2 жыл бұрын

@@RepEvox The obvious solution is to have fucking social workers handling social programs, and curtail the police to actually protecting and serving the public, which is what they should have done in the first place. But noooooo, Bumfuck, AZ just has to have their APC's.

@mardasman428

2 жыл бұрын

this insane police equipment is just an end result of the military-industrial complex that wants to sell more of its products by shipping off its leftover products to the police. And local governments are often invested in the military-industrial complex in one way or another.

Who in their right kind think defunding the police will make crime go down. These people will protest the police, then go home to find their house burgled and then call the very police they profess to hate looking for help..

As Eminem would say... They had to "SNAP BACK TO REALITY"

@awesomesauce8199

Жыл бұрын

This movement was all child’s play and it was made out of emotional impulse. Lol who was going to answer for their robbery at the bank or at home? Without police there would be chaos everywhere and people free to do whatever they wanted.

America used to mean progress at least to me as a child growing up in India. As I have grown up it’s been a shocker that all they do is talk and not move in any policy change.

@stationrecreation3066

2 жыл бұрын

All that means is you were ignorant as a child.

@Rommie26

2 жыл бұрын

I mean literally America is of the most moved to countries. They must be doing something right 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Thebreakdownshow1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rommie26 money my friend. People move to money. None of the American cities are the most liveable or happiest places to be in.

@stationrecreation3066

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rommie26 its called propaganda, and yes they're (America) is the best at bullshit.

@Thebreakdownshow1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Agent0004 that’s exactly what I was thinking off.

I’ve heard this argument before “at some point” which means not now not ever. Because doing the right thing is always right now.

@JamesBideaux

2 жыл бұрын

investing in primary schools won't improve the quality of your graduates until the people who were in that primary school have graduated.

If someone got indicted for tax fraud that means they were using Street money somehow someway

Defund the police had a severe negative effect on the morale of police officers. That is why so many from San Francisco,Seattle, Los Angeles, Portland and Oakland quit. No wonder why crime has sky rocketed in these cities. This is what happens when you give in to mob mentality versus common sense.

@Jay-jb2vr

2 жыл бұрын

Cops need to get rid of their bad apples...they dont, and thats the problem

What I find surprising is there seems to be no psychological screening for police candidates. Like, anyone can get in, provided they pass ohysical exam. In Croatia, where I'm from, most candidates are rejected precisely because they show agressive or narcissoid characteristics, which would be a danger if given a gun.

@ibdam1

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Kria. There are several psychological testing platforms prior to becoming an officer. Prospective officers receive an extensive written psychological test along with a verbal interview in front of a panel of licensed therapist.

@margotpreston

2 жыл бұрын

@@ibdam1 Not in the US there aren't. As long as you'll follow orders without question, those fuckers'll take any and everyone.

@Enry-9624

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes croatia, the famously safe croatia.

@jadakiss58

Жыл бұрын

You literally have to do a psychological examination as well as a polygraph (most agencies)…..what rock have you been living under???

@CashCowz962

Жыл бұрын

How about a normal vop will still shoot to kill a crazed suspect trying to grab their gun and kill them?

1:07 it's not surprising at all honestly. Maybe from the perspective of some suburban kids who've never had to actually deal with high crime rates. Some type of police reform makes a lot of sense, but literally de-funding the police is completely counter productive

@ALUCARDTWILLIGHT

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@margotpreston

2 жыл бұрын

It's the police that are responcible for the high crime rates in the vast majority of low income neighborhoods in the first place.

For more than 30 years, I've worked with patients suffering from mental illnesses. I even ran a medical mobile unit that provided free mental health services. The infrastructure required to effectively provide for those suffering from profound, chronic mental illnesses, is not in place (adequate housing, follow-up, trained professionals, peer-support, police-clinician inter-training, etc.). Also, the highly dysfunctional family dynamics in some of our Black urban communities, have GOT to be successfully addressed as a root cause of mental illnesses.👋🏽👨🏾‍⚕️

I have friends and family members that are police and that job sucks.

Defunding the police has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Look at Portland.

@dcstatehood3764

2 жыл бұрын

I think continuing to allow white men wearing uniforms to execute a child on the street and face no consequences is dumb

@asecretturning

2 жыл бұрын

Fake opinion

@roguexxxd9722

2 жыл бұрын

As any black solution😂

@matt3789

2 жыл бұрын

@@RepEvox left wing media?

@PointlessPerspective

2 жыл бұрын

@@roguexxxd9722 race has nothing to do with this.

That opening shots of Baltimore. Nothing has changed since The Wire filmed there.

Hiring people is not the answer .do you these cities...start giving people some hope in this country...like jobs.affordable housing ect..

The U.S has an ethos of quantity over quality, with some of the poorest police training in the western world. Until that changes, & screening develops higher standards, nothing will change.

@the2ndcoming135

2 жыл бұрын

That massacre of innocents hit different when you can verify you’re the only one you know of that escaped.

@JBguitar-cj8pc

2 жыл бұрын

Poorest police training in the western world? Lmao what western world are you living in bud? Name one western country has more brutal criminals than America.. I’ll wait. Police from any other western country could NOT handle crime in America. They couldn’t. You left wing knuckleheads are so silly and deluded.

Everyone deserves the feeling of safety and comfort. In every profession, if you’re not getting your job done, you’ll get fired. Police officers and policing in general should be held to the same standard. Police officer seen to have way more leeway in shooting someone than I did in the military ( during war time). Reform is needed in policing and in criminal Justice. A person who sales weed can receive more time than a pedophile. I won’t get into the horrific background of who police officers came about. But there seems to be racial divide on the discussion of policing and criminal Justice reform. Some white folks get so offended by the thought of black people saying change is needed, without ever listening to the issues.

@stevencl1237

2 жыл бұрын

@@crispinfornoff206 go preach that somewhere else.

@stevencl1237

2 жыл бұрын

@@crispinfornoff206 ughhhh thanks.

@NewsHotVN

2 жыл бұрын

everyone has equal rights

@EasilyCringed

2 жыл бұрын

Ofcourse you did, you just let your liberal feelings get the best of ya

@margotpreston

2 жыл бұрын

@@EasilyCringed Replace liberal with reactionary and your statement would be an accurate one.

What a messed up place, and it seems to be getting worse every day...

People who created the slogan "Defund the Police" were incredibly dumb. They should have used the words "Partial re-direction of police funds". This wording would not have scared anyone. Defunding, on the other hand, sounds more like: "Let's get rid of safety and let the gangs rule our streets!"

Imagine that, you defund the police and crime skyrockets... who would have thought....

@justin9571

2 жыл бұрын

No police were defunded

@aaaaaaaawwwwwwww

2 жыл бұрын

@@justin9571 portland among many others, do ur resaeach before trolling

@justin9571

2 жыл бұрын

@@aaaaaaaawwwwwwww Yup and the only reason crime went up is because police (being manchildren) withheld their services because they couldn't get a new tank.

@Chozo_Ghost

2 жыл бұрын

@@justin9571 Portland, OR and Seattle, WA would like to have some words with you

@justin9571

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chozo_Ghost both amazing cities

Would be nice if Vice did a doc on local gangbangers and pushers in Baltimore... feels like all the Vice gang interviews are in South America. Talking to local gangs may give insite on why ppl want more police.

@hectorsanchez7210

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Seems this days everyone wants to blame the police for everything that's wrong in society. Maybe if we start to point fingers on our own people for committing all those crimes. Instead of blaming the police. We would make a difference it starts at home with our own family, friends and specially our youth. Let's teach them respect and honesty hard work. We have to be the role models. Why are we putting everything on the police. When our own people are out there. Committing crimes . Then we get upset because the COPS are doing there job. Stopping the criminals from committing more crimes. Then we scream defund the police Just a thought, I am a minority, grew up in the ghetto. Saw drug dealers living it up. Nice cars beautiful woman. Saw the gangbangers, have protection and them not worrying about bullies picking on them. Knew kids that went around our neighborhood breaking car windows to steal stereos from cars. I wanted to do all that stuff. But my parents my role models taught to respect myself first and most and to respect others as well as there property. They showed me to earn and buy what ever I needed by working. Not stealing.

@kovy689

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t fit their narrative

@diegoaespitia

2 жыл бұрын

it's cause VICE likes to be anti white. anti police. only non white people suffer. and are discriminated against. they will do Anything to not put any blame on minorities

@bricklesnar4206

2 жыл бұрын

@@hectorsanchez7210 nobody is bootlicking their way thru life like you are anymore. Be apart of the machine if you want.

Hint hint there was never a problem with policing in the first place

Now there’s more killings then ever before 🤦🏽‍♂️

After what happened at Uvalde, I don’t know if things will change. Law enforcement will continue to receive funding, regardless of what kind of behavior they’re up to - even if they show the utmost incompetence and ruthlessness. Hopefully, more people will realize that we not only need to defund the police, but REINVEST it into the community. If Republicans want to talk mental health, instead of guns, in light of shootings, then we need to take action and actually do something about providing mental health services. Karen Bass’ bill was the right step, in an attempt to eliminate police brutality and hold police more accountable, but it’s unfortunate that she now thinks otherwise. Police corruption is now more rampant than ever (Baltimore Police, Philly Police, LAPD, NYPD, etc.)

@T25de

2 жыл бұрын

Defund the police is the dumbest argument period.

@JimGamingTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@T25de So what exactly do you suggest we do? Like y’all always ask, “WHerE wiLL We GeT tHe MoNey” for mental health services?

@WAEVOICE

2 жыл бұрын

@@JimGamingTV Start at the home.

@margotpreston

2 жыл бұрын

@@T25de Just because you are incapable of understanding it doesn't mean it's stupid mate.

What happened, was the opposite happened

So what programs? Really what? There are a million programs to solve this, and that, but never work. Where is the success story? It's money down the drain. There is plenty of money for schools, but most of it goes to administration, and corruption. Why doesn't anyone come up with specifics about these new programs? Tell us exactly what this new program is supposed to do, and how.

Not one politician would lived in a bad neighbourhood and scream for defunding the police.. Politicians agree to what they hear from people who do not live in those communities... When will politicians listen to the voices of those who live in the communities

People against Defund the Police: If we defunding them, who you would call when there's tragedy like mass shooting? When mass shooting happens: ..........

@pepperonish

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently not the Uvalde PD. Call the border patrol.

@jessimint9528

2 жыл бұрын

Police officers are not obligated to protest citizens. And that’s congress baby! Look it up

@daniellethomas3745

2 жыл бұрын

Well I guess it depends on whether the government planned and coordinated the school shooting… if so, you aren’t getting help from anyone.

@galangtirtayudha3973

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessimint9528 It makes me wonder what the purpose of militarizing them If they are not even obligated to fight baddies? They are only obligated to 'investigate' afterward, which Sherlock can do with only magnifier.

@galangtirtayudha3973

2 жыл бұрын

@@pepperonish but who would stop the parents who want to save their kids if not the police?!

The commissioner at the end answered her questions so well, she tried to push him towards answering a certain way but he was able to get out what actually needs to be said

@cowsmuggler1646

2 жыл бұрын

Dey blah ming the Poe lee ease fur not key upping them say pH. The wons they gut red of

@PrincessHarmonyMoonlight

2 жыл бұрын

She asked some tricky questions and he answered them well, both were good. She wasnt trying to push towards a certain way.

@christopherquintanilla6572

2 жыл бұрын

@@PrincessHarmonyMoonlight She asked tricky questions yes, but I'm saying she had clear bias that was against the commissioner she spoke to

In this case no one will be safe anymore 🥲

Its just happened in Illinois, they got their wish, the Purge has begun

Member when cops across the nation essentially stated, in response to public outcry to their abuses, they'd stop policing? So crime went up since then, eh? We never learn, do we.

The FED has lost it and the sad fact is it's pretty obvious we are headed for hyperinflation.i think stores better have tight security because when people can't afford to feed their families, things might get ugly.

Anyone who wants to defund the police should post their address online and social security number if you have that much faith in humanity to not misuse your information. Don’t bother calling the cops once your stuff is stolen.

1:37 - Shouting at the police instead of finding Dad and asking why he left.

"police don't prevent crime" HUH? So if there were far few police or none at all, would crime go up? Yes. Do they think about what they say?

@franzjoseph1837

2 жыл бұрын

Go tell that to those parents in Texas. Cops exist to protect economic capital and the interest of the ruling class not to protect random poor citizens who don't have enormous capital or the political and social control of an entire nation.,

@totallynotgay553

2 жыл бұрын

Don't show up to prevent crime they show up after the crime has been committed

@margotpreston

2 жыл бұрын

Police don't prevent crime, they respond to it. Post the whole quote, not just the cherry picked BS.

@xXG3TPWNEDXx

2 жыл бұрын

@@margotpreston Police do prevent crime. To say they don't is dishonest.

@modern362

2 жыл бұрын

@@xXG3TPWNEDXx People will commit crime regardless if police are present.

Uvaldes well-funded police department stood by for 50 minutes while children were slaughtered. Instead, they stopped parents from saving their kids lives. *That* police department should be defunded.

@pascualsmithvaldes9038

2 жыл бұрын

@@RepEvox maybe because they didn’t went inside Alec?? Don’t you think it makes sense to police to go inside, while keeping the parents out? Well police let kids die by not going in and one mother had to “trespass” to save her kid, because the police wouldn’t. Now they want to give better armor vests to those useless officers.

@pascualsmithvaldes9038

2 жыл бұрын

@@RepEvox It’s not “a surface level” statement though. OTHER law enforcement had to get in because the law wouldn’t. Why do Uvalde police deserves more funding but re insercion programs, mental health programs, etc don’t?

@subhamsingh2588

2 жыл бұрын

@@RepEvox dumbazz,if they can't save people,then why fund them,it's like saying leaders are not there deal with problems,they waiting for god

people dont wat to be police, because police are such a dangerous job and are hated by a large portion of the population. That is why the requirement are so low. So first step is honoring and appreciating the police more, so more people will want to become police. As long as police is not respected, police will attract people that are bad at the job. Or not enough poilce officers, which leads to a worse job being done.

The answer is not to defund the police.. the answer is to train police longer. Police academy is only a couple months. If that was extended to at at least a 6 month minimum, I believe policies and procedures would be better learned and used in the line of duty.

The failure of the defund the police movement is due to the facts not backing up the narrative. Now as cities, towns, and counties across the country are seeing a drastic spike in violent crime, a slight increase in justified police shootings is not surprising. We as a society need to do better so that situations don't rise to the level that they need a law enforcement response.

@rlud304

2 жыл бұрын

“We as a society need to do better?” What does that even mean? Could you be a little more vague?

@karwinchau4684

2 жыл бұрын

Right be a little bit more vague and specific, your part of a society that chose to defund the police, therefore you the people voted for that. Obviously defunding the law enforcement would harm the American society.

@pascualsmithvaldes9038

2 жыл бұрын

How can you expect things to get better when all the social unfairness keeps rising? It’s like blaming homelessness when it comes at your door when you live in L.A and acting like the system doesn’t leave people unattended for?

@malamutehunter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. We wouldn’t need the police if we didn’t have violent criminals.

@emofascist

2 жыл бұрын

@@malamutehunter exactly so take the millions going to cops and invest in the community

If I was a policeman and I went to a call, and everyone started yelling at me, I would just say, ok, no problem, you figure it out! Then I would leave. The looks on their stupud phukkin faces would be priceless.

Defending the police is dumb for anywhere but Especially Baltimore Which is where I live. I know that Corruption is rampant and it runs deep. We need more police of a better quality

@andrewheitmeyer9945

2 жыл бұрын

It takes more funding for training, which is what they need.

We lived in Baltimore for 8 years, in Curtis Bay, Southeast Baltimore. I saw a people problem. No one cared. There was an open air drug market right next to Sooner's. We used to hear gunfire at least once a week. One time we even rang in the new year with Baltimore's first murder of the year within minutes after midnight. The police weren't on the corner selling drugs, doing drive by shootings or prostituting in the alley behind our house. It's a people problem. Bring in better paying jobs, a school infrastructure that creates productive citizens and actually work on community reform instead of blaming law enforcement for the problems. The issues in Baltimore have developed over decades and it's going to take possibly twice as long to undo the damage.

This is B.S. police should be feared and not be joke. The police should instill a chill and fear amongst the criminals and anti socials.

@John-zm5kk

5 ай бұрын

It's a good point..

The prison industrial complex is a system situated at the intersection of government and private interests. It uses prisons as a solution to social, political, and economic problems. It includes human rights violations, the death penalty, slave labour, policing, courts, the media, political prisoners, and the elimination of dissent.

@rs72098

2 жыл бұрын

Less than 0.5% of the U.S. population is incarcerated. That's not an industrial complex. Very little money is made in the private prison industry which accounts for less than 8% of prisons. We should end private prisons but it's not a billion dollar industry.

@user-lh7pl2fu9c

2 жыл бұрын

@@rs72098 your mind is in a prison

Unfortunately, the word "defund" was made synonymous with decrease the amount of police. It was not a new concept and was used as a way to rebuild police departments long before George Floyd. And it was successful. One dept. in NJ defunded, their words exactly, and before Floyd. They had every cop reapply for their jobs. It got the bad ones out who had bad reputation with the community and things got 100% better. In NYC, many, many years ago. there was a special department of officers trained in dealing with emotionally disturbed persons. They were Godsend. So what happened to it? Scraped by budget cuts in the city, not in the NYPD. MH budgets are the first to be cut across the country. I know this first hand. Community policing is one answer. Put resources in that. Institute task forces with special police with training in MH with MH services available to the persons in need. Examine use of police monies. Any going to meaningful stuff like yearly psych testing of officers, examination of their records regarding civilian complaints, provision of MH services for police that would not be entered into their employee files (many cops will tell you that they want services but they are scared it would be in their files and used against them. So perhaps defund was an unfortunate term that had many meanings to people. But on the whole, people saw it as decreasing police officers.

@dennisdonoghue9202

11 ай бұрын

Really? A great Frued session will diverse the violent situation? Wake up. We don't live in a world that some peacemaker shows up and throws some holy water and a blessing over someone. Good for you if you live there and think lawless is the way to go. The Wild Wild west revalitized..

I mean, when your elected officials are literally on record trying to put your movement on the shoulders of your opposition, I’d say your movement is dead. But hey, you actually kinda got what you wanted in a roundabout way. Minneapolis PD lost 25% of its officers in like a year. Their crime rate also went through the roof. Good

Remember plenty of stores are being closed due to rampant crimes in California, could you say that the police are at fault? Criminals commit crime because our justice system allow criminals to walk out in a couple of days. The ones you should be blaiming is your government, they should put more investment into their communities, allow more programs to allow the lower class to pursue something more than just doing crime.

if they did really defund the police or got rid of police all together in the country it would make Tijuana Mexico look safer than any city in the usa

@thetavibes9021

2 жыл бұрын

Yahtzee!

@hailey8941

2 жыл бұрын

Cops are useless. They proved that yet again this week.

@AntiCougar1988

2 жыл бұрын

@@linat5671 right okay...lol you say that now while we have police on the streets. If they weren't there, you'd be screwed.

@AntiCougar1988

2 жыл бұрын

@@linat5671 if they’re back out, thats a court issue, not the police. You think police officers are happy with seeing criminals back on the street after spending hours apprehending, possibly fighting, and doing reports on them? And if they don’t show up, it’s because of the staffing shortage and precedence and severity of other calls. They aren’t magic. They’re humans and have human limitations.

@phantom_yt5176

2 жыл бұрын

@@linat5671 true

People got fed up of this bs and decided to vote against it, good for them.

@camerongates5752

2 жыл бұрын

So we should just allow cops to be corrupt and harass minorities?

@thegreataynrand7210

2 жыл бұрын

And it's black and brown people suffering from the crime

@hectorsanchez7210

2 жыл бұрын

Look what it has created. More crime. Maybe it's time for us as minorities start putting a little bit of effort and responsibility for our own to do better.

@gilangzaidan8454

2 жыл бұрын

@@camerongates5752 Should we allow criminals who commit crimes against minorities to roam free without real consequences? Because that's exactly what blm wants by "defunding the police" and saying "all cops are bastards" I want bad cops to be held accountable as much as I want criminals to be held accountable for their crimes.

@gilangzaidan8454

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeyjoejoes Say what you want, at least I don't support criminals nor do I let people tell me what to think.

You mention the increase of police budget , yet highest crime on record but failed to mention that they are WAY understaffed . High budget doesn’t mean larger police force. 600 police vacancies in that department

If law enforcement drones and robots are always monitoring and scanning everyone and everything all the time, they could see through people and items to immediately identify threats or illegal anything's and then immediately react appropriately.

Most “criminals” have serious mental health issues. We ignore the signs as parents, family, teachers, doctors, community and church. We have failed ourselves.

@i_hate_simps_2608

2 жыл бұрын

Nah they're just thugs raised in thug culture . You saggin ya pants and spinning the block looking for ao called opps has nothing to do with mental health. Liberals make too much excuses for demons, then law abiding citezens get hit with gun control like what they're trying to do now.

@boycottjews

2 жыл бұрын

Defund Africanized "american" cities.

@johnallenbailey1103

2 жыл бұрын

There isn't even any way to address mental health when you're pouring dollars, from our taxes, into police.

@jdkingsley6543

2 жыл бұрын

Mental illness isnt a excuse for criminality, if a mentally ill person goes on a murder spree the should be shown the same justice as anyone esle.

@Miraclelnvoker

2 жыл бұрын

This kind of logic that made America fail, in china if a person with mental illness commits a crime he/she will still face the same justice as sane people does and it actually worked. There's many people with mental illness in other parts of the world but those people don't go around murdering people. Don't be soft on crime and one more thing, teach your kids about "consequences". In my 3 years in new york i often see spoiled kids that's why they're not afraid of consequences when they commit a crime. People really need to spank their kids once in a while and not moan about "child abuse" bs that the left always preach.

I'm obsessed with the people who are so confident that defund is the wrong answer but can't ever face that discussion or back up their position when challenged.

@TheTouchdownWithDougSmith

2 жыл бұрын

Just look at Portland Oregon. That is the perfect example of how defunding the police does NOT WORK! Now there definitely needs to be a lot of procedures that change within the police department in the US, from how they interact with locals, who they hire, ECT. but defunding is not the answer

@audhdylan

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTouchdownWithDougSmith the first Google result for "Portland defund" is how they added funds back already, last year. Once again, every argument against defund is incredibly misinformed and loosely anecdotal to make an argument about a system not working when we haven't even actually tried the proposed solution you're making out to be a failed case.

@TheTouchdownWithDougSmith

2 жыл бұрын

@@audhdylan I hear what you’re saying bro, I feel like it needs to be a healthy balance. A few years ago I lived in Raleigh North Carolina and while it has many big city problems that comes with having a major population, a big reason that they have low crime and not as much of a need for police is that they invested in education. For example, if you live in a lower income section of town like Southeast Raleigh, your child will automatically go to a magnet school and receive the same education as kids on the northside. This results in Raleigh being one of the safest cities in America. Now is education to fix all? No because there’s still an issue of fatherlessness in these communities, Which then leads to prison reform which I 1000% support. But overall, I do support police reform if it’s done the correct way, but I think that many cities are struggling with not only that but how to attack all of these issues at the same time

@audhdylan

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTouchdownWithDougSmith there is of course more to the solution. Training, reorganizing, etc. But to reject defund is counter productive. We spend more time litigating the slogan than recognizing that so many other things are constantly "defunded" with less argument around its merits. Health programs, social security, education, disability services, etc are all defunded regularly when the one thing that is recklessly and extremely overfunded is off limits to even discuss in such a capacity.

@Dooger414

2 жыл бұрын

@@audhdylan You are revising your statement. Defunding police budget in cities (not cutting... defunding) has unilaterally led to MORE crime and at exponential rates. What you are describing is reallocation of funds, using money better and more effectively. That is not defunding. So your opening statement is actually not the argument you are representing. You may want to change the wording.

The police commissioner in particular could have been asked critical (follow-up) questions.

What happened? The phrase "defund the police" instead of "reform the police".

At the buffet, I personally sneak corn into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 boiled corn ears in my jacket pockets. It is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corn thinking they were part of the buffet.

@josephstalin7353

2 жыл бұрын

Bro I have these pockets inside of my jacket (think old spy/drug dealer cartoons) where I could sneak something as large as a water bottle into a movie theater.

@ErraticHail

2 жыл бұрын

This man is a hero

Defund? I've been a cop for almost 20 years...I got a great raise and a great pension just around the corner. Sorry Folks...not my job to teach you right from wrong...I'm just the consequence.

@slevinchannel7589

Жыл бұрын

Well, that claim is easy to debunk. Here, 'Defund the Police' was defined correctly in the video by 'Some More News' that literally talks about Defund the Police and how people are r/confidentlyincorrect about it - like you are. C'mon, lets test. We both watch the video and then we see.

What happened to it? People realised it was a totally ridiculous idea.

Defunding the police is dumb, if someone really was to do that say bye to body cams that prevent from misconduct and also good tranings

For every situation with a police response, laws should be referred to. Unless, the situation is an active shooter situation. Secondly, police make people feel safe. They don't make areas more safe.

@GeertTheDestoyer

2 жыл бұрын

Makes some people feel safe, not all.

@briancarey1159

9 ай бұрын

You will never make a people feel safe if the city they live in is unsafe or the area or the town or even the road. When the emphasis is on the criminal and the people suffer? No sir you will never have a population that feels safe.

@adventurousloner

9 ай бұрын

@@briancarey1159 Hypothetically, a city, town, or area can be surrounded by 50 feet high and 20 feet thick concrete , facial recognition cameras everywhere and some people will still come up with reasons why it is not safe. It drives funding. You have to understand all variables and factors of "safe"