"Then after all this, we have the Vietnam War" I always feel bad for Korean War vets. It's like no one remember that war happened

@mbogucki1

Жыл бұрын

@@yunis1175 You mean No Gun Ri? I mean WWI, WWII, and Vietnam also had incidence so it's not unique.

@pnealiv7443

Жыл бұрын

@@mbogucki1 Korea had the highest civilian casualty rate of any US war, and it never really ended - just got less hot.

@susanray4059

Жыл бұрын

It's called "The Forgotten War" for many excellent reasons. While it's seldom taught in school,,, the overwhelming tragedy is that it was a massive boondoggle of the most significant proportion ever. To mention ONE overlook committed by our government was how ill equipt the men and women were for the brutal winter in Korea. Frostbite was expected, and many died from the extreme cold without proper boots and clothing. The war hawks and military planners failed those men in so many different ways it was so shameful they swept it under the rug in hopes it would be forgotten. It's all part of the propaganda. Years later, we were all witnesses to Nixon's secret tapes, and Henry Kissinger was heard saying, "Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used pawns in foreign policy." And yes, Kissinger said that out loud. That sick evil bastard is still alive and is still breathing ... The "High Cabal," as the Secret Team within the CIA liked to call them.

@swampfox9633

Жыл бұрын

Oh trust me, the older you get, the more you remember what happened.

@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing

Жыл бұрын

The Korean war doesn't get writers panties as wet because technically, it's still a victory. The mission is still successful to this day. The fact that South Korea still exists as a free country is pretty solid evidence of that. But Vietnam gets clicks, and sells books and scripts. It's an easy outrage machine when you bring it up. So they do.

I was born and raised in mobile Alabama. I never knew anyone in the kkk. It was never a topic in conversations. It was practically non-existent. After coming home from my time in the service. The first day home, I went to check my mailbox and had a large minella envelope with a package from my local kkk. They wanted to welcome me home and invited me to a meeting. How did they know that I returned home? My blood ran cold!

@charliedehussle2640

Жыл бұрын

It's a gov. Made up rare if existent boogieman

@ericbeech2652

Жыл бұрын

@@charliedehussle2640 huh?

@brutewarrior

Жыл бұрын

How much does vice pay?

@ericbeech2652

Жыл бұрын

@@brutewarrior vice? I'm not sure what you are asking.

@timothyellis596

Жыл бұрын

I call bullshit

“Military style communications” “Hold your ground” Lmao

I served 28 years in the Army, there were members from every gang that you could ever imagine. All races! Right and Left!

@NotesNNotes

Ай бұрын

Genuine curiosity, how many actual anarchists or communists were in the military with you openly? I figured that would be pretty rare.

@godking47

21 күн бұрын

​@@NotesNNotespretty rare they like soft targets that don't fight back

@sadoompaloompa

10 күн бұрын

I got my eyes on the right. Don't care what you say.

@CharlesMckernan-sw2po

9 күн бұрын

@@NotesNNotes We had atleast two that I was fully aware of. One was my corporal and the second was in a sister company.

As an asian that served in the US army, I did face some racism/bullying from certain peers and superiors. It was rather uncommon, but you always had the usual d-bags once in a while. Glad to say that there were a lot more good guys that had my back.

@GaryHField

Жыл бұрын

They should go to Asia and try that attitude. They will be culled in a matter of minutes

@JackieOwl94

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. It’s something you don’t see very often in reporting. A lot of these reports often broad-brush all veterans as bad people. It’s nice. My husband is current army, and we agree that on the fort is where the peace and multiculturalism is at. Just outside of it, there are a lot of racist veterans and locals that don’t like people of other nationalities coming to town and bringing their businesses into these desolate places. It’s odd, because those are shops and restaurants that keep those towns afloat.

@Anthroid9

Жыл бұрын

@@JackieOwl94 it tends to be the older people, huh?

@reubenpresler5435

Жыл бұрын

I can tell you weren't in the navy. You wouldn't have been hastled about anything race related if you had been. Sorry you had some turds in your outfit brother.

@jackie5793

Жыл бұрын

Most keep their beliefs quiet until they get out and don't have anyone to hate anymore. They get bored and only know how to be aggressive. What do you expect.

Just a reminder that "racists sometimes use patriotism to get attract recruits" does not equal "patriotism is racist". If you want to prevent veterans from becoming racist, you can start by thanking them for their service and letting them know that you have their back, just like they had yours when they were in the line of fire overseas. If individuals and nations don't look out for their own, people will leave them and join groups that do (or at least, groups who make promises to do so), and unfortunately, some of those groups can be pretty f'd in the head. Just because something is terrible does not mean it isn't also predictable and entirely preventable.

@sadoompaloompa

10 күн бұрын

Kinda hard to ignore it when this country was built on bloodshed. You can't deny history.

@DONTwatchmyplaylist

6 сағат бұрын

Thank them for serving the cabal? No thanks. Don't serve!

As a vet i like dogs.

@publicuser2534

Ай бұрын

Belgian Malenois is a great breed.

@kimt4087

27 күн бұрын

As a vet, I agree. My husband is service training our Bernese, and she is so wonderful. Such great family friends.

@korygurman6638

24 күн бұрын

As a vet tech, yall actually tend to have the well behaved ones. Cop families on the other hand…

@publicuser2534

23 күн бұрын

@@korygurman6638 When I was growing up, my family has pretty much always had dogs. My dad was federal law enforcement. Me, I am an Iraq War veteran. I learned very quickly that the way he “taught” our family dogs was absolutely wrong. I refused to ever put my hands on my dog. He turned out to be the tamest, well-behaved Belgian Malenois you’ll ever meet. Had him almost ten years now and he has been great for me and my baggage.

@Seby1223

4 күн бұрын

as a vet i also like dogs, they’re pretty cool

I spent 30 years in the US Army from draftee to Colonel. When I came out, I had a real hard time adjusting to civilian life. I am now 73 live in the country on a farm and keep to myself. That is how I adjusted, I limit my contact with others.

@therealbigfoot3076

Жыл бұрын

Great Billy badass

@blanketfortressofsolitude5270

Жыл бұрын

Welcome home, sir.

@djquinn11

Жыл бұрын

How does a draftee become a Colonel?

@ralphgreenjr.2466

Жыл бұрын

@@djquinn11 Well, after 2 years as an enlisted man/NCO, I took the tests to qualify for Officer Candidate School and I was selected. I went to basic airborne school while I waited for a class date. I attended in 1969-70, 6 months of hell and learning. Graduation rate was 40%, with most getting orders to Vietnam. Along the way you complete your undergraduate degree and master degree. Between deployments over seas, you complete officer advance course, Command and General Staff College, War College, and if selected foreign career schools. You also attend other schools to enhance your resume. All the while getting selected for promotion, having a marriage, raising 2 children and putting the wife through college. Easy, it was a great journey.

@djquinn11

Жыл бұрын

@@ralphgreenjr.2466 : Thank you for your service Colonel Green.

Also I think another reason why extremism seems to be more prevalent in veterans coming out of the military is simply because they're looking for that same type of structure and brotherhood that you get in the military. It's REALLY hard to find that in civilian life just in general. So, they tend to latch onto it wherever they can find it.

@danielschick7554

Жыл бұрын

The irony about this is that the dolts that found these organizations were kicked out or terminal junior enlisted that did only one contract.

@newhorizonsforfifty2833

Жыл бұрын

Don't they prepare the soldiers for life outside the military? Or do they expect you stay in as long as possible and they'll get to you later?

@LADavis-ih3ok

Жыл бұрын

If that is so then why isn't there an analogous movement with African-American veterans?

@XxCorvette1xX

Жыл бұрын

@@newhorizonsforfifty2833 they expect soldiers to die and not have to return, of course they don’t prepare them for civilian life afterwards They are a resource to be used until no longer useful and that’s all

@EastsideSILENCER777

Жыл бұрын

@@newhorizonsforfifty2833 They don’t train you how to transition out of the U.S. Military. You just get told you’re discharged and that’s it.

As a prior service Coastie, and son of a retired Coastie, I have to chuckle at the Coastie at the beginning of this video, acting like he’s some sort of trained warrior.

@publicuser2534

Ай бұрын

No disrespect to the Coast Guard, but he was a bit to Huah for me 😂I am an Air Force Security Forces veteran, two times deployed and I don’t speak like that. I love my country and would do it all over again, but I’m not half as motivated as that guy.

Love how Vice is trying to make this a left vs right issue. We are becoming more and more unhinged as a society and seeing more and more extremists because people are being shepherded into being told to think that there are only two surfaces to a multifaceted spectrum. There are just as many extremists on the left as there are on the right, because when you push people into only one of two directions, eventually they are going to reach the edge.

@Riasat202

4 ай бұрын

LOL the "extremists" on the left would die before serving in the US military. These are all right-wingers.

@eatassonthefirstdate

2 ай бұрын

they refuse to demonize the left though..

@CalifornianSupremacy

29 күн бұрын

Found the idiot that supports nazi troops.

@PugpuppyDudley

29 күн бұрын

Oh.. So what are the left extremists doing?

I spent 24 years in the USAF and I never saw this type of stuff ( I retired in 2016) I think the more radical stuff forms AFTER their time in the service. Frustration with civilian life, a lack of preparation to getting out, combined with a skill set that doesn't lend itself to much after the military.

@jbiehl8478

Жыл бұрын

I can understand why the Air Force wouldn't draw that many extremists. I assume many are looking to learn combat tactics and weapon training.

@beneficent2557

Жыл бұрын

I do not buy it at all. Remember the Fiasco surrounding the Kidnapping Attempt of Bachmann? A bunch of FBI agents escalating and instigating a farce. Take a good look at Patriot Front. Worst acting I have ever seen.

@RAFTERMAN7

Жыл бұрын

@@jbiehl8478 To be fair and i am not throwing shade here but the marines and the army have lower standards than the air force. It just facts. The army has so many more people that real supervision is almost impossible.

@garys4211

Жыл бұрын

Yep, served 12 years Army Reserves....Never seen these extremists while I served.

@jhonshephard921

Жыл бұрын

I don't know why but Air Force is immune to this. Maybe because it takes a LOT more skill. I have never served any army and am a pacifist (other than punching/boxing /mma) and I came here from Pakistan where we did have issues with extremists in the military. Same as in the US, those guys tend to be army. From what I have heard about the PAF, the bar to entry is far higher and extremists are too stupid to pass.

I think the lack of support soldiers get AFTER their service is one significant factor why they turn to extremism. With a military budget this big, the government needs to provide a lot more for the veterans

@sn1ffy85

Жыл бұрын

Or maybe they didnt get "enough kills" while they were in. How many of these assholes saw action? Probably not alot. And thats why they signed up... to kill. So the failed. And choose to threaten their own country? Really Good Look.

@andrewcross8244

Жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY

@MarcillaSmith

Жыл бұрын

Where's the money in that? US National Power got what they wanted from them already - you're talking about throwing money away. They're more valuable as extremists, anyway. That way they justify larger budgets for domestic surveillance and law enforcement. Cha-ching! ... not that these are _my_ values, mind you, but then, I'm not a good American.

@Dustandfuzz

Жыл бұрын

They had a cause that they would fight and die for and then it came to an end. They need another cause, but a helpful one, no aggression involved. That aggression needs to find a healthy, helpful outlet. I don’t know what that be. Our WW2 Canadian able vets were put to work helping other vets. They were given office jobs and field work for various aspects of other vets lives. It worked pretty well. The aggression has to stop.

@robertavila8165

Жыл бұрын

Your oath ends when you are discharged .

I served as an infantryman in the US Army. That guy who served 2 months is totally full of it. After a month, you are basically still doing BRM, Basic Rifle Marksmanship. Maybe you have done some obstacle courses, communication training, and some basic movement training. He would not be proficient in almost anything yet. Chaptering or kicking him out probably took a couple of weeks, so that's it. After about 15 weeks, you graduate OSUT, one station unit training, you really only know the basic information you need to function as a soldier. From there, your first unit will actually spend time training you in what you need to know. If you have good NCO's, training never stops throughout your career. Eventually, you are the NCO responsible for training the next generation. In my time, I definitely had some dirtbags to deal with. You chapter them out of the military and move on to the next Joe.

@Minot11b

Жыл бұрын

@bastiat If you bothered to watch the video, one of the veteran militia members bragged about his 2 months of Army Infantry training. I was an infantryman, so no, it's not a hot take. The fact is when you arrive at Fort Benning, you go through reception, which takes about a week. Kicking him out or chaptering takes a couple of weeks. So, in his 2 months' time in the Army, nearly half that time was spent on paperwork and waiting. He would not have been very far in his training cycle at all. As for your comments on the ASVAB. Infantry actually has one of the highest average ASVAB scores in the Army. Plain and simple, you need to be smart to lead men in combat. If you are not, you will get someone hurt or killed. If you want to make dumb ASVAB jokes, you should direct your fire at parachute riggers. That's right, the people who pack your parachute have the lowest ASVAB entry requirements. Finally, about the Marines. They are a fine branch of our armed forces. The fact is that only the Army and Navy actually guarantee your job in writing. The Air Force, you fill out a wish list and hope to get the job you want. The Marines are at the needs of the Marine Corps. I wanted to be an infantryman, and only the Army would put it in writing. That's how I made my choice.

@TheShakur1997

Жыл бұрын

@@Minot11b cool

@Minot11b

Жыл бұрын

@_Red_Panda_ If you fail out Special Forces or Seals, your contract states you will serve at the needs of the Army for 18x SF or the needs of the Navy for Seals. Plain and simple, if you fail to live up to your contract, they can change it as necessary.

@troywest1724

Жыл бұрын

@@_Meng_Lan He joined the Navy “ undesignated”. Which means he is a deckhand and will go through his first couple of years observing other jobs that he could go to school(for a designated job) as an enlisted “job designated” member of the Navy. Any one in the Navy can become a Navy Seal… even a cook. He probably signed up for the Seals program in boot camp to go to B.U.D.S. And he failed out. It’s not uncommon for anyone to fail B.U.D.S. The strongest man you can think of “could” fail B.U.D.S.

@tsdobbi

Жыл бұрын

@@Minot11b When I was in BCT the guys that got the boot for whatever reason, medical, failure to adapt etc. We're still there waiting to leave when we graduated. I don't know what the hold up was.

As the great Yoda once said "Fear is the path to the dark side … fear leads to anger … anger leads to hate … hate leads to suffering"

My country used to have mandatory military service. As soon as that stopped, issues with extremism in the ranks skyrocketed. One of the reasons is, that now most people who join are a) extremely patriotic and b) think they're ready to use deadly force. From there the way to violent extremism is just... Shorter. Another reason is, that the more culturally diverse group of people in the military worked as an early allert system. Extremist activities were reported much quicker, when there where people of more varied political, social and ethnic backgrounds.

vice needs to do an entire episode on fort hood. the killings, disappearances, the cartel involvement, all of it.

@briantrend7401

Жыл бұрын

No vice is a load of lefty woke amateur commie Marxist hogwash we don't need any more videos by these fake clowns

@aquilafasciata5781

Жыл бұрын

This would be real news. That’s how you know they won’t do it 😉

@jonstackelin1861

Жыл бұрын

Never happen... @Vicenews

@nickmagrick7702

Жыл бұрын

fort hood, wheres that?

@jirinyymi9417

Жыл бұрын

And Camp Lejeune, it had an entire Atomwaffen cell, look it up.

The military is a completely different culture than the civilian world. You dont feel like you fit in, and have to another hard reset on who you were, just like in basic combat training, but this time in reverse all by yourself. The military is black and white, while the civilian world is endless shades of grey. Some don't adjust well once they get out. They retreat back to the familiar, and latch onto it with both hands because it's the only way to make sense of an endlessly grey world. I'm not saying putting on the horns and trying to kidnap the governor is a good idea, far from it. But this is where a lot of those guys are coming from. They are having trouble assimilating into the mainstream. So they turn to fringe groups. This doesn't excuse bad behavior. Evil is still evil. But if we can help someone before they become lost, then we can mitigate things.

@humpteedumptee8629

Жыл бұрын

basic was the easiest thing ive done in my life.... calm down rambo.

@sierra6music

Жыл бұрын

@@humpteedumptee8629 lmfaoo 💀

@jsbaker2795

Жыл бұрын

@@humpteedumptee8629

@desireeespinosa3954

Жыл бұрын

True

@flicker9371

Жыл бұрын

@@humpteedumptee8629 At no point did he say anything about basic being hard. Might wanna get those TBIs checked out, boot boy.

22:02 did he really just say that a 223 round will travel several miles 😂😂😂😂😂

@John_F898

Ай бұрын

How far do they really travel?

@chetisanhart3457

Ай бұрын

Yards in most cases. Not miles.

@freehhhh2086

Ай бұрын

Daddy

@publicuser2534

Ай бұрын

3600 meters is the max firing range…less than a mile. Maximum effective range is 500 to 600 meters.

@HansTheGreatestApocPlayer

Ай бұрын

@@publicuser2534 thats over 2 miles tho

2:59 "just because i no longer serve in the coast guard" LMAO. LARPER COULDNT EVEN GO INFANTRY

Ok let me put this out there, as a 30-year military retiree, who represent the attitudes and opinions 99% of our population, the military Vets portrayed in this video are 'our' extremists too! Please do not walk away from this video thinking our great countries Vets are a bunch of neo-Nazi or worse potential neo-Nazi's. I have met a few military folks who reflect the Vets in this video, many had these attitudes and opinions before they joined the service, they are a minority of the military population. Every NCO and Petty Officer I had the privilege of serving with, would not tolerate this behavior in their formations.

@SaintAnix.

Жыл бұрын

@Neil Collins thanks for your prior service. I don't believe most would walk away from watching this believing that vets are White supremacists. Rather this is meant to show that this is an issue, a cancer that the people and the government are aware of but that there is little being done. As I'm sure you know the military is often reactive rather than proactive. We are waiting for tragedy to potentially start the process of maybe doing something about it. Currently it seems the military rather have less than stellar individuals in exchange for high recruitment numbers.

@Ncollins99

Жыл бұрын

@@SaintAnix. thank you for your thoughtful reply Fernando, I hope that non-Vets don't walk away with the military service- supremacists association. What I really want to avoid is what we experienced in the 80's and 90's, where military careers were considered the bottom of the barrel, as far as who's attracted to the career of arms, by the American population. When we slide down that rabbit hole the American population looks at the military with suspicion and in some cases outright contempt. I saw this with the post Vietnam guys and later after all the flag waving died down from the 1st Gulf War.

@Dinerokid-rh5tu

Жыл бұрын

@@Ncollins99 But I'm going to put it to you like this though. If they have white supremacist members in the military. They also have African American gang members and Hispanic gang members in the military.

@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001

Жыл бұрын

@@Ncollins99 Thank you for your service

@yusufibrahim7916

Жыл бұрын

@@Ncollins99 what were you doing in Iraq and Afghanistan then? Ya'll killed over a million people and we supposed to brush that under the rug? We saw how your army treated the captured prisoners and all those military secrets from wikileaks and we supposed to believe there aren't racist in your military'? Get a grip buddy!!!

the way we treat our veterans probably plays a huge factor into this. The significant underfunding of resources, specifically mental health resources is horrific. As someone with PTSD, it is such an isolating disease, and they need a support system that lets them heal and gives them the love they need and deserve. I can’t even imagine having combat trauma. we can’t treat the people who fought for us this way any longer. Clarifying this because people are now saying this is me excusing domestic terrorism and racism; GIVING PEOPLE MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES COULD PREVENT THEM FROM TURNING TO VIOLENCE AND EXTREMISM. I absolutely despise these peoples actions, but at the same time I think they deserve access to the mental health resources they desperately need. I also think about the countless homeless veterans or veterans struggling with addiction who have no access to a support system.

@johncbernaysjohnc.bernays1790

Жыл бұрын

America has never stopped having mass shootings, remember Extermination of First Nations Started under George Washington And his Father 40years before 1776 they called Washington 'Village Destroyer." Americans are Taught to Murder by Land Owner's Sovereignty which in Federal Law makes Landowners are equal to the Sovereign, like King James. As a matter of fact Americans are like "Monkey See, Monkey Do" or Everybody else is killing their wives, in Texas murdering your wife in not a crime. (It has changed I think I remember several Woman Killers in 1950's through 1990s who Murdered Wives anf Scated Away free and Breezey. Christians are taught in the Bible that Murder of a Woman who is a Scold or a Son who won,t obey should be Murdered also, Christianity is PRO MURDERERS So as long as Bibles and Guns are Protected in America Men will Murder Women. At 74 Years old I has clocked these trends. America is The Murder Nation. Soon China with give Americans a taste of Murder - Men will weep and Beg like woman's and shall be murdered like rabid dogs. China and Russia sees Americans as Mad Rabid Dogs, Rightly.

@lkhlsom

Жыл бұрын

@bastiat4855 nah u can look at statistics showing rates of homelessness, addiction, severe mental health issues, etc. for veterans in the united states. It’s a well known issue and denying it would be pretty sad

@extrastout1741

Жыл бұрын

Tbh the us is pretty shady in its military operations. U r not fighting to keep ur country safe, u go and meddle in other people's business. In the military they tell u r a hero alpha male. To the public u r not

@govannioften1148

Жыл бұрын

They need to be helped once they get back from serving.

@banditkeef3864

Жыл бұрын

@@govannioften1148 yeah but republicans keep trying to cut social services and democrats are too busy barley pretending to care about progressive issues.

Just like how the nation treated the Vietnam vets when they came home.

7 years of service and I’ve never seen anyone tolerate racism in the army

Living in a conservative area of the country where a few of these militas call home I can tell you that most of the "vets" that are in these groups, or hang around these groups either washed out of basic, or were dishonorably discharged not long into their service. Almost all of them will brag constantly about having been a special forces super secret assassin, or have a little modesty and just say they were in seal team six.

@nyk3334

11 ай бұрын

Based on your anecdotes and lived experience lol. Ok buddy. Try again.

@yourmomsaccount69

11 ай бұрын

Gravy seals if you will.

@lennyemerson2520

11 ай бұрын

And how did you come to know them?

@staceystrukel1917

11 ай бұрын

Yep, it’s a personality type. The military did not make them that way. Their family and community are most likely responsible.

@derpnerpwerp

11 ай бұрын

I knew a guy who used to come to the gas station I worked at.. was also the baby daddy of a girl I almost dated years before and knew a few friends of mine.. anyway he would stop by and we would smoke a cigarette while he bragged about his deployments.. saying he missed the "pretty pink mist" he would turn people into.. which I thought was pretty psychotic. I asked a friend who knew him and he told me he was with him first hand when he got booted out of the military during training. Apparently he got his enlistment bonus and then blew it all on hotels, liquor, etc.. didn't have enough money for gas to get back to his base. He definitely was never deployed. Not the first guy I knew who got kicked out of the military and lied about it..

Send a bunch of kids to fight a frivolous, illegal war and wonder why they come home fcked up. Shameful.

@publicuser2534

Ай бұрын

We all didnt go down a conspiratorial rabbit hole. Some of us are sane individuals with moral injuries. You call us fvcked up, but I beg to differ.

@srinivarma1320

Ай бұрын

All becuase of both a theory that was bad, and because of france throwing a tantrum

@bobfunck6749

29 күн бұрын

which frivolous illegal war are we talking about?

When the losers in high school meet up.

@brentsumpter3604

Ай бұрын

When a gay comments

I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.” ― Smedley D. Butler, War is a Racket" a short book from 1935.

When I was in the military, my basic training buddy was a Klan member. I am puertorrican so we had a very uneasy, weird relationship. There was a point where we got along, talk about families, laughed, joked and you would think we were friends but we both it was far from it. On our lasts days he told me, you should come to Alabama to visit me, meet my family to which I replied. No. And that was that. I wonder if he still the same.

@dollyscarz8295

Жыл бұрын

Smart to say no. Thanks for your service 🙏🏾

@john_doe_smith

Жыл бұрын

@@dollyscarz8295 funny you say that. I have never forgotten that. I still even remember his last name. I was a very young kid, very unfamiliar with the US race dynamics. He was my first encounter with one of them. Was I affraid of him? Not really, more like curious. Like a teen looking at a pissed rattlesnake. I knew he was dangerous, at least I kept getting warned about him but I had that confidence of youth Lol. Towards the end he felt like a real friend.

@Saturnia2014

Жыл бұрын

@@john_doe_smith Los blancos del sur son loco porque no ay mucho opurtunidades y la unidad familiar no se toma en serio como en la cultura latinoamericana y afroamericana. Son personas perdidas y con problemas

@JP-br4mx

Жыл бұрын

I am happy youre ok

@2000rayc

Жыл бұрын

i disagree with the smart to say no. that was your chance to change him. maybe he wanted you to go so he can tell his family he will no longer be apart of that life

Dude with beard and shaved head went through a lot of bad stuff, but stopped digging deeper holes and educated himself through legitimate educational institutions ..He identified the problem and is doing some common sense things to find solutions .. I don't know if what he's doing now is that much safer than his work as a forward observer, but I thank him for his service and what he's doing now ..Please stay safe ..

@eckomob6898

Жыл бұрын

@@Jonathan-jp4zz did your "indoctornation center" give you a paper when you left?

@scottlarock9345

Жыл бұрын

All he’s doing is snitching on people for the Democrat Party; he probably traffic’s children while he’s at it 👌🏻

@skychristy398

Жыл бұрын

@@scottlarock9345 I'd like to see you say that to his face in person ..

@scottlarock9345

Жыл бұрын

@@skychristy398 oh really because I’m so scared of this snitch ass POG vet I tell ya. Btw I’m like 60 lbs heavier, I’m sure all he would be able to do is ‘report me.’ 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

@markcargill9734

Жыл бұрын

@@skychristy398 k

It’s funny that the literal founder of vice started one of these groups

I love how they’ll make a 45 minute documentary on the danger of former military starting and joining militias against the government, but won’t make a documentary about the dangers of former military running the government and the private sector. In fact, they deny its existence at all, how comical.

@Unleashed_Beasts

3 ай бұрын

What exactly the influence they have over government and private sector?

@stevefromsaskatoon830

2 ай бұрын

​@@Unleashed_Beastsweapons manufacturers like Lockheed Martin pay lobbyists huge amounts of money to lobby politicians... Washington DC has the highest concentration of lobbyist firms on planet

@ON-YT

2 ай бұрын

@@stevefromsaskatoon830 I think many news channels have been quite critical of the Military industrial complex. First time I heard about it was Vox.

@stevefromsaskatoon830

2 ай бұрын

@@ON-YT indeed

My grandfather served in WW2 and Korea. I am glad he died 10 years ago because he would have been very disappointed in these young vets. To see soldiers with Nazi flags when his friends and family were dying in WW2 is just a slap in the face to those that gave their lives.

@EndeavorsDnB

Жыл бұрын

Same w my mine, exactly 🥺🥺

@johnconner4695

Жыл бұрын

If you didn’t serve the stfu

@asterixdogmatix1073

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, my Grandfather travelled halfway around the world to fight Fascists and Nazis in Europe and North Africa. It took him 57 years to visit Germany again afterwards, so much was he effected by the war. He would be rolling in his grave.

@davehughes53

Жыл бұрын

Many views are tribal and passed down, learned from parents and grandparents as they saw it and lived it. Thus instilled views cultivated and pasted down from ww1 vets, ww2 vets , Vietnam,,,etc

@PropheticShadeZ

Жыл бұрын

Did you know the KKK and neo Nazis used to hate each other for this specific reason, the Vietnam war was the largest increase in white nationalism in the past century. And led to the increasing militarization of these groups

If you ask a bad person “are you a bad person”; you think they will say yes? You can’t just ask them , you gotta look up their background information

@harrypalmer7579

Жыл бұрын

Especially the early life section

@mando8769

Жыл бұрын

That is absolute rubbish.

@perezgman13

Жыл бұрын

Oh, like Trump??

@wargriffin5

Жыл бұрын

Outstanding. What do you do when they have no priors and no indicators?

@user-ue6iv2rd1n

Жыл бұрын

@@harrypalmer7579 SHUT IT DOWN!

If January 6th was so well planned, why did it only last a few hours?

4:49 what about the terror in England , France , Sweden , Austria , Norway and Switzerland ? Could you guys make a video on that topic?

It's a strange reality to live with. One of my best friends I made at my Advanced Individual Training (AIT) had a father who was on the leanings of White Supremacists. However, we were close enough to talk about anything at anytime, and she acknowledged her upbringing, but was never prejudice, even to myself, a person of color. At our graduation, we were lined up infront for handshaking and congratulations from all the parents and friends who showed up. Some refused to shake our hands, acknowledge our existence, or our commitment to our nation. It's a hard pill to swallow, but I can live happily knowing that my classmates did not have the same ideology as their parents. I serve my country proudly, regardless having to protect people with different ideologies.

@nawnaw4709

Жыл бұрын

I hope you keep that state of my mind because time and people stupidity will grind your patience slowly ans understanding slowly but surely

@Pax_Veritas

Жыл бұрын

Hey my friend. I am what the so-called white supremacists would call a "true blood". I'm whiter than any of them because I live in Northern Ireland, a place where the sun never shines. I'm an Ulster-Scot like the Founding Fathers. The guy who printed the first US Constitution (Robert Dunlap) was born within walking distance of me. The man who created the textbook used by the Founding Fathers to create the Constitution (Francis Hutcheson, who coined the phrase, "unalienable rights") also lived within walking distance of where I currently live. Sorry for the long intro I just wanted you to know that even if some people in the US military don't appreciate your sacrifice, that I appreciate it and the people of the United Kingdom appreciate you, sir.

@x77punk77x

Жыл бұрын

Serving alongside brothers and sisters like you, becoming friends and sharing the various experiences you did together - all of that probably plays a role in their rejection of that obsolete and senseless mindset. I hope you’re being treated very well in civilian life.

@hmuphilly9129

Жыл бұрын

Unrelated but what did you get in the ASVAB, im interested in joining the branches.

@jeremygibbs7342

Жыл бұрын

As a Canadian I respect your resolve.

“Without patriotic political education, a soldier is only a potential criminal.” - Thomas Sankara

@Riasat202

4 ай бұрын

That's a lotta words for "brainwashing."

@hammettful

3 ай бұрын

@@Riasat202 read a book

@Leviathan762-zh4lq

3 ай бұрын

So brainwashing?

@SheepFucker-Terry

2 ай бұрын

indoctrination?

@Walker733

2 ай бұрын

I assume he meant indoctrination into communist ideals?

I never thought I would see the day in this country, where, standing up for the rights that are protected by. Our constitution are looked at as extremist ideology.

@publicuser2534

Ай бұрын

I don’t think it is necessarily the formation of a militia or the right to bear arms. I think it is more about the ideology behind particular groups. People do have the right to say what they please. But, that is not to say there are no consequences for those words. Being labeled a racist because you fly the Nazi flag is one of those consequences.

Approx 500 and what arrests in what period out of a country with what population, and how many convictions

My brother who is in the army was telling me all about this 10years ago. From what he told me this is already generational.

@spicychad55

Жыл бұрын

A lot of gangs like MS-13 got a lot of their initial training from the US military. Not necessarily the military's fault... maybe it is in the sense of poor regulations.

@mikey2toes966

Жыл бұрын

@@spicychad55 I think it is the tribal nature of human. White nationalist and MS-13 just protect what they believe is their tribe. Being a nation that is made up of many nationalities and cultures. There is bound to be tribal warfare.

@blairrobert3438

Жыл бұрын

@@spicychad55 Exactly. There are extremists in all industries.

@Joao-de9gl

Жыл бұрын

@@spicychad55 That was the case with Zetas in Mexico too (ex army commandos), but I think now they're gone. Same in Brazil (hitmen being ex special police). Although we see the money reason, in the US case seems purely ideological?

@wwbuirkle

Жыл бұрын

@@spicychad55 LMFAO

Leaving the military, I felt extremely angry and abandoned. The VA helped me get over it and fall back into a normal life. Denying veterans care over extremism is the absolute worst thing to do. Instead, counseling and therapy will help ease a lot of these frustrations, while compensation and financial support will thwart the abandonment these veterans feel. But even with these tools, I've watched several of my white brothers in arms fall into right wing extremism. As a stressed out minority, I cut my ties with these folks, further contributing to the divide. I would look at phenomena like Alex Jones, Q, and Fox News rhetoric for leading this divide. We as a nation need to be more aggressive against propaganda and disinformation, treating it as war against the mind, before it turns into actual war. I don't think that anyone on either side of the aisle actually truly understands how dangerous this situation is. This documentary paints the danger as vividly almost as it truly is.

@highestgood5169

Жыл бұрын

@Will Boler thank you for sharing your experience, and also what helped. Our gov absolutely should be taking care of veterans with a clear plan. Coming back to civilian life is difficult. Although I have not served, I have experienced very long periods of drawn out trauma and out in the world, and in order to settle down I really needed a great amount of support. Hard to find.

@PropheticShadeZ

Жыл бұрын

Honestly the far left are the only people appropriately worried about these guys. The activities of these groups around Jan 6 is so much worse than even the current inquiry will report on since it's all implication and they didn't action anything

@Red-Brick-Dream

Жыл бұрын

The Republicans absolutely, 100% understand understand. After all, they're the ones standing in the way of getting these guys any help. Reducing radicalism runs exactly counter to their project.

@CH-rn7bk

Жыл бұрын

yet the democrats created the kkk..... biden said your not black if you dont vote me. extremism is extremism. stop painting pro America people. what about all the minority people who voted trump?????? liberal ideology is ruining this country

@socom2wasgreat542

Жыл бұрын

speak out and tell them who is denying them access to care because they are so brainwashed they don't even see it right in front of them.

See a lot about right wing extremists but never anything about the left wing extremists?

A 25-35 yr old enlisted Marine who misses the Corp this much yet isn't serving anymore probably wasn't given the chance to reenlist. Furthermore, letting others call you "The General" when you couldn't possibly hold that rank goes against military decorum. I work in a VA hospital (and a Navy vet). One of the most common tactics I see with vets who puff up their service, and cling to their time in service to this degree, is that they're actually OTH (other than honorable) or ELS (entry-level separation aka didn't /couldn’t finish boot camp) discharges. Just my opinion tho.

@theGodfather5870

Жыл бұрын

Preach!! 🙏💯💯👌

@rimmellstanley6468

Жыл бұрын

I agree!

@jacobr8063

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. I remember there was this old vet I knew who endlessly bragged about his time in Korea. Found out after he passed away that in 8 years of service he only made it to E-3 and was dishonorably discharged after he went AWOL.

@seitanbeatsyourmeat666

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@QuestionQuestionMark

Жыл бұрын

The only people that endlessly brag about their service are people that want the honor for what little they accomplished. Thinking that their bare minimum was enough to let them ride by on life, because they lack identity and a true sense of self.

"We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst." -C.S. Lewis

@TomorrowWeLive

Жыл бұрын

@Leon lionhardt they're the only loyal ones

@r_e046

Жыл бұрын

@@TomorrowWeLive Loyal to what? You guys attribute way too much value to your country. It's just borders. They're not even real. Here in the Netherlands we like our country but are also taught to think for ourselves. Your entire country is build and based around extremism. There is no grey opinion or nuanced explanation. Just for or against, black and white, enemy or ally. We won't even have to do anything, you guys will just kill each other. It'd be convenient if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.

@anenclavetrooper9707

Жыл бұрын

@@TomorrowWeLive uh oh

@mattiasbinotto5358

Жыл бұрын

@@anenclavetrooper9707 The founding fathers were White nationalists, either you agree or you are traitor to them and what they believed.

We need the Punisher.

The Military is not friendly to extremism, the reason they are weary of talking about it, is because they need to keep members and they need to recruit, they have worries of coming wars and they need men and soldiers, and most people who get involved with extremism, are discharged for it, and right now they need troops. I think getting involved in extremism of any side, should result in a negative counseling and not discharging, to please both sides, because we need troops for war if it comes, with whatever country it might be with.

I was in the military for 12 years until I was force to leave after severe injury. I miss the military it was the worst and best thing that ever happened to me and I’d go back if I was able. In my veteran community I’ve never seen any of them being radicalized most just have nostalgia and miss their time in service and complain about how terrible the VA is. But from this it seems they could be all around me but I’ve never been approached by them that I know of. I know lots of TBI/PTSD/Disabled guys who could be manipulated using their trauma or exploiting their vulnerabilities and the desire to be a part of something bigger and a brother/sisterhood we lost when we had to leave.

@vibezlogistics7453

Жыл бұрын

So they join a hate group...bro that hate was in them before they joined the military...

@touristguy87

Жыл бұрын

so join the reserves

@lovekills9112

Жыл бұрын

Lol hate groups, riiiggghht...... here's a fun game, let's compare the cost in damages between all the right wing groups and then to just antifa and blm.

@touristguy87

Жыл бұрын

@@lovekills9112 ok let's do that. Which groups are we calling rwhg?

@Bata223

Жыл бұрын

Can’t you just all be part of the big cookie selling brootherhood?

Does anyone think it's fitting and ironic that "The Base" was also the English translation of Al Qaeda?

@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477

Жыл бұрын

That was intentional by the founders, unfortunately.

@menna7927

Жыл бұрын

It was intentional.

@erinmcdonald7781

Жыл бұрын

Forgot about that!🤦

@peterirvin7121

Жыл бұрын

No it isn't. Al Qaeda translates to "The Leaders".

@Azrael_Garou

Жыл бұрын

Y'all Qaeda

Imagine fighting “radicalism” but being radical yourself… the irony of self belief

Wait, was that dude bragging about being in the Coast Guard like he’s a bad ass now? 😂😂😂

@LuisFlores-id7tb

Жыл бұрын

He sees himself as a Navy SEAL

@jingbot1071

Жыл бұрын

Yo, watch out, I was a mall cop. I was in Iraq....i Saffron Outfitters.

@GraniteStater

Жыл бұрын

I mean USCG is pretty badass, they jump out of helicopters and stop drug trafficking soooo

@git1259

Жыл бұрын

Andrew have you served yourself, if not you should probably stfu frfr 😒

@Thegingerbreadm4n

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisFlores-id7tb gravy seals

I'm a young vet and I can tell you why some feel angry.I am now broken and disabled at only the young age of 26.It makes me angry that my friends who I went to high school with,don't have to worry about the same disabilities I do.The VA is trash and the government could careless about their citizens.

@StarSurvivor1585

Жыл бұрын

You are SO young at 26. Your thoughts and anger are completely VALID. I HATE that the VA is trash. I want so much better for you. I can tell you that I'm 45 and life doesn't get easier. I hope you know that I VALUE AND RESPECT THE HONOR AND BRAVERY YOU GAVE. ❤️ God bless you young man or woman wherever you are. Love from South Carolina

@squidwardo7074

Жыл бұрын

Its funny people always talk about how you get free healthcare for joining the military.

@nathan-ls8yw

Жыл бұрын

@@squidwardo7074 honestly the only reason i joined up was because of citizenship and a personal view that i owed it to serve a country that adopted me as it’s own

@sumtingwong2162

Жыл бұрын

Sorry you had to learn the hard way but they never did care.

@johnstory2996

Жыл бұрын

Nobody forced you to sign up.

Found this very confronting and hard hitting ,,,great doc ,,,,and yes there is a problem.

Imagine been a soldier in WW2 fighting Nazis and Swastikas only to return back home seeing your grandsons branding the swastika. There is an error somewhere. Did grandpa fight and kill Nazis so grandson can be a Nazi?!?!

@mrtriyja7800

Жыл бұрын

We defeated the wrong army -- US general Patton.

@KDanes

Жыл бұрын

Grandpa would switch sides if he saw the current state of "western civilization"

@KDanes

Жыл бұрын

@@misterboot6682 What trap....Islam is b.s

@JoshLevo

Жыл бұрын

White US soldiers died in ww2 so europe could become overrun with immigrants and communism, and so whites to become a minority in the USA. IS that what you're saying?

@poolee77

Жыл бұрын

Those WW2 vets had more in common with the Germans than our current society.

great video

As a military brat from the '60s, all I can say to these paramilitary vets is enjoy it while you can. After my dad retired (Vet with 33 years of service) he had alot of time to reflect. Survivor remorse isn't pretty, especially if you have loved ones involved.

While the issue is certainly multifactorial, It appears to be a deadly combination of generational prejudice and hatred seeping out and the lack of support upon being discharged/ retiring from the military. Many crave the structure, discipline, and comradery they experienced while in the military and which is severely lacking in the civilian realm and something they find in these 'brotherhood' type extremist groups. My dad served 30 years in the Army and eventually retired two years ago. I know it was a very sad day for him as it had been a part of his life for 30 years and had been the reason for his success in life ( he was a JAG and eventually retired as an '06). The army gave our family many adventures including living overseas for many years and it was a time that while stressful (especially when my dad deployed) it was certainly something created a close bond between us. My dad ended up taking a high position in the social security administration and is currently still successful but i know many others who struggle. My dad continues to help fellow soldiers from his previous command who are retiring - giving them resume advice, education recommendations, and tips for transitioning to the civilian life. He has helped many get jobs in the government sector and other corporations and I am glad that my dad is trying to help these soldiers transition so that they have support and don't feel lost and desperate.

@larryjones2507

Жыл бұрын

maybe but i think not most vets i know dont wanted to be around anyone

@derrobbster

Жыл бұрын

Well stated.

@pauz9776

Жыл бұрын

You have a great dad & he is lucky to have you. Thanks for sharing your father's story....!

@colin7443

Жыл бұрын

How were you in the Army and know words that big

@snba4642

Жыл бұрын

TLDR

For anybody worried about people like Watkins, the initial phase of basic training that everybody goes through doesn’t teach you much

@beepbeep1253

Жыл бұрын

from what my buddies tell me its more to teach you discipline? and how to follow orders

@Wyatt274

Жыл бұрын

@@beepbeep1253 this is accurate, you learn basic tactics, but it’s more about teaching you a mindset that you are capable of pushing yourself

@JoeBoxerNo1

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. The most dangerous path that leads to Extremism is Ideology - such as Bolshevism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, etc - Group Think, Mob Mentality.

@charliechurch5004

Жыл бұрын

LMAO naw no one is worried about that

@lewisjohnson8297

11 ай бұрын

That depends upon what you were exposed to as a child. I was a gun nut, but the geometry of the M16A1 was new to me. I turned down advanced marksmanship training, because it sounded like sniper school, to me.

Like someone else posted , patriotism doesn’t walk hand in hand with racism and bigotry. People should have some pride and protection of their country . I think America really sold out from our industries to our hearts and pride , and we need to get that back if we can . Not a fan of self loathing Americans , but love their ability to be so and voice those ideas

What about attaching strings to their next budget proposal so basically threaten their sacred budget unless they actually deal with this issue!

Soldier who just graduated AIT in August here. Extremism is more prevalent in the members who have left the military. Veterans, especially those who have seen combat, enter the civilian world at the end of their contract with a lack of support and still want to feel a sense of belonging. This makes them join gangs, hate groups, etc. I think the DOD needs to evaluate how they treat their veterans entering the civilian world with more attention to help address the extremism issue. The DOD has implemented SHARP for the military, a program intended to prevent hateful rhetoric, sexual assaults, and other problems from spreading in our ranks. This has already brought a positive effect in the military's ranks to reduce the level of hate IN the military. The question now is, how will we address servicemen and servicewomen leaving the military, and ensure they will stay away from following hate in the civilian world? That's my piece at least from experience so far.

@gfys756

Жыл бұрын

You make a lot of great points.

@alexwilliams1548

Жыл бұрын

You’ll soon see that it’s prevalent in the active duty ranks as well.

@DW11111

Жыл бұрын

I think the government should go after hate groups like BLM. Can't join them if they're disbanded for the violence they incite.

@GrossCouchPotato

Жыл бұрын

I would hope training would help. Unfortunately, soldiers come from different educations and backgrounds. While in the national guard, I deployed to Iraq with a bunch of racists who lived in rural Oregon and Idaho communities. I remember some saying, “White Power”. They were angry when DADT was being repealed, and had to attend sensitivity training. When I got back from deployment, I switched to a unit based in Portland. That unit was made up of better educated and cultured soldiers. It was a diverse and LGBT friendly unit. Ultimately, the power point presentations the military provides will not curb extremism. The military should actively involve VSO’s in military culture, that way soldiers have a positive role model.

honestly if you’ve developed unhealthy intentions as a child, the US Military is an easy place to exercise those intentions.

@billcarson818

Жыл бұрын

The USA is a militarized society. I mean look at their army. Look at how many wars they start. Its a war nation. So its not a surprise.

@sueprator9314

11 ай бұрын

And if you come from a very prejudicial small town environment, you just default to how you were raised. Most of these guys were not "college-guys" with a remote possibilty of exposure to other people of other cultures. PATHETIC WHYTE AMERICA.

@staceystrukel1917

11 ай бұрын

Exactly!!! THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

@Dayonetheone

11 ай бұрын

I would agree.

@tanner4280

11 ай бұрын

Yes and then you’re left with them when they dump you back on the street.

How US service members can espouse anything Nazi bewilders me. Their grandfathers or great grandfathers died fighting Nazism. BTW, I am an Australian ex serviceman. No way I would ever be radicalised towards Nazism.

" *Extremism" is the Definition of the United-States itself* ... if People are lied to and aren't valued; Then they will find Purpose & Value elsewhere.

This subject is scary. I just knew that a lot of Vets were going to come back wondering why we were in the Iraq war and resent it. It's hard on them watching a fellow soldier die to include women and children. I've heard them talk about it. My first boyfriend came back from Vietnam a broken man.

@mikeray8004

Жыл бұрын

You actually believe this 🤯 You are shockingly dumb

@omennemo8844

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeray8004 Duh

@forrest16

Жыл бұрын

@@omennemo8844 he probably killed all those poor civilians in Vietnam and later resented it

@Aaron-zu3xn

Жыл бұрын

but it's a flawed logic to say you're obeying your oath to defend the american people when you're turning military weapons and violence on the american people who didn't send you to iraq

@didit4thememelel31

Жыл бұрын

pain and suffering does not warrent the hate and inhumanity of being a nazi to want or even think about joining or being apart of those groups is unforgiveable

Failure to adapt is a separation category for someone who has not yet finished basic training or school. What this means is that he couldn't hack it. I have a feeling that a lot of these folks would fall under this same category.

@chris98wallace

Жыл бұрын

Exactly… they’re untrained losers is what this video should highlight

@joeschmidt4858

11 ай бұрын

failure to adapt can only be used if a soldier is in for less than 12 months , normally those types usually got weeded out pretty quick

@squibbelsmcjohnson

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely. They want to play soldier because they couldn't be one

@publicuser2534

Ай бұрын

@SandyRiverBlue - I came across a female “veteran” that didnt make it through basic training because she fainted on a hot day. She gets services at the VA and is currently appealing to get service connected disability. I don’t quite understand that. Meanwhile, PTSD Joe is struggling to get his claim heard and waiting for mental health services.

I don't think I had free speech when I was in the military. Times have changed.

That girl cameo at the end during that guy interview was fire

My brother retired Air Force and he doesn't believe the same as the young man with the hat. We could be doing way more for our military to help them assimilate back to civilian life if they need it. Thank you for all those who have served our country and us. Breaks my heart to hear that people are coming out of our military and going straight to extremism.

@donald1576

Жыл бұрын

I got out in 82 and it was absolutely training ground for the KKK and other white supremacist extremists as well as street gang military training as well it hasn't changed doesn't sound like

@HeroOfTheDay16

Жыл бұрын

Your brother was in the Air Force not a crayon chomping marine, theres a reason hes not in a far right militia group

@Hadrianand12legions

Жыл бұрын

Im in the Air Force and i believe in the way this man, Hammer, thinks. Hes right. Its all bullshit. We have been spoon fed this garbage propoganda and youd have to be a complete fucking moron not to see it. Even now, the Air Force has been rated "Very Weak". The US military is not the military it was back in the 2nd World War. We are under a foreign entity, we fight for a foreign entity, for its interests. We only get paid in the blood of our brothers and sisters that dont even benefit us.

@christianmaas8934

Жыл бұрын

@@HeroOfTheDay16 Ashli Babbitt tho

@petedog9581

Жыл бұрын

Only like 1% of the population serves. Why do so many unhinged vets turn to this extremism? It is a paradox. They fought for the country, and now they want to tear it down.

The Viet Nam war was the first war we were able to witness through the television. It was brought right into your living room. I remember as a kid, they would list the dead and wounded every night on the news. It was pretty scarry.

@colico14

Жыл бұрын

My dad was over there as an enlisted PFC in the Marine Corps in 1968. He was 20 years old. I took U.S. and Vietnam History in college. What an absolute horror show.

@aliasofanalias7448

Жыл бұрын

Weird thought isn't it, such a considerable change we didn't really notice at the time. Now we're all desensitised lol. I believe it was also the first war that they did hot drops in

@aliasofanalias7448

Жыл бұрын

@@colico14 US shouldn't have been there plain and simple, respect to your dad though

@tfm1449

Жыл бұрын

@@colico14 The Viet Nam war raged through out my childhood. When most people I suppose did not understand why we were there. When I turned 17 in1972, I realized it will soon be my turn to be drafted. At this time, I understood what was going on politically, and socially. I struggled with how I felt about the war, about being drafted. Because we all knew by this time it was an absolute horror show. I wanted to be patriotic, so I did the best next thing. I protested with the best to bring home my friends, and everyone else there. The lottery was done that year, my # put me in the crowd next to be drafted. Fortunately it was decided to pull everyone out. Remember them saying it was not our war, it was merely a police action? Yea right.

@joeyfotofr

Жыл бұрын

It was a lot different watching those TV casualty reports from Nam, when you were looking for the names of guys you went to school with, guys you played football with; guys whose sisters you dated. It got worse when your friends came home banged up or strung out and you all had to realize that the war was all for a bunch of lies.

You just have to not, as a society, abandon your fighters as soon as they have served under your orders. they end up on the streets, they feel useless, even though they were taught not to be useless in combat. not compensating a soldier for life upon his return so that he can have a decent life is a lack of respect, and shows how much you make fun of them and throw them away like dirty socks as soon as you are done with them. A soldier's life is yours from the beginning of his training to the end of his service, his life, and his retirement, with free medical services and a decent pension so that they can enjoy a little life after you having given it away (literally).

My question is:where is the FBI?What right do you have targeting people that just what to live peacefully?These people are initiating terrorism just because.

@21kiwi24

6 ай бұрын

The FBI is constantly targeting and overstepping in the name of preventing domestic terrorism. So many cases of harassing and targeting legal patriots due to their political beliefs. The FBI is a captured politicized and terrorist organization.

I love the guy going on about the trauma of seeing your best friend bleed and die ... and it turns out he is the one who's never been in combat ........

@captaincrunch7944

Жыл бұрын

You don't have to be in the military to have watched someone die in front of you ....that happens in the hood all the time I've seen dudes stab each other to death and have had friends die from overdoses I'm not in the military but so what I've almost lost my life by getting hit by a car I was really close but It missed me happened more than once actually

@hilariousname6826

Жыл бұрын

@@captaincrunch7944 You're right; let me re-phrase that: I love the guy going on about the trauma of seeing your best friend bleed and die in combat ... and it turns out he is the one who's never been in combat ........ There!

@Credit87

Жыл бұрын

@@captaincrunch7944 he literally talked about watching people die fighting a war for America 😂

@Haulass95gt

Жыл бұрын

Vice is a clown show always trying to stir up racism and blame police and white people for everything.

They are not the only Veterans who served America....

A friend of mine served over 10 years in the US Marines in the 70s and 80s. He told me that gang members join the military for the training and when they leave, go back to the gangs.

I was an Asian in the Army in the early 2000s. There were definitely some racist mofos in bootcamp. The funny thing was most of these Southern dudes could not even explain why they were being racist, just that they were raised this way (ended up becoming a good friend with one of them) lol

@marcoch7084

Жыл бұрын

Yes, although it was only the one guy from Lousiana that was racist...and sadly met a bitter end at a very young age...the other 20 or so were actually quite nice, even the one racist guy was nice to me (l was an internacional srudent from maya descent, I look latino) and they seemed to know that Mexicans are hard workers, one of them told me almost mumbling,, it was the lazy ones that they seemed to be disappointed about. Back then bl*ck basketball players had asked me to do their homework I said no, and they just seemed to be looking to have a good time, most basketball players were not good role models

@maavet2351

Жыл бұрын

So what are you now

@patrickbertlein4626

Жыл бұрын

Yep, that is a huge part of it. People are like that everywhere too. Stupidest thing about this country we think we are so special we even think our racism is special. Whine about it.

@johndang887

Жыл бұрын

Im asian too. get tf over it dude. How would you feel if our asian countries were full of white dudes fuckin our women and taking over our government? aka colonization? our focus shouldnt be on reforming racism but protecting our own asian men and women.

@skinnylong2023

Жыл бұрын

Most racists I've come across have been from all over the place, it isn't confined to the South

I wish they had covered more about why so many people seem to be heading in that direction anyway.

@SameAsAnyOtherStranger

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't care for what Vice would cover about why militias in the U.S. are a growing phenomenon. I've watched this video a few times with a lot of skepticism because Vice was cofounded by Gavin McInnes who founded the ProdBois. But the story of the motivations of people who join militias would endanger any media organization that exposed the reality of the infantile belligerence that is the major force behind it.

@rossclark9155

Жыл бұрын

Everyone needs a hobby. Instead of becoming a leader, say a kid's baseball team, the lovebros of the homoerotic men-together mostly failed military careers is more attractive.

@user-pm4zg2mw5b

Жыл бұрын

@@rossclark9155 that and nothing unites people like a common enemy. Once they have something to point their finger at, everything else falls into place.

@g.m.5395

Жыл бұрын

@@user-pm4zg2mw5b Very Good

@dk1070

Жыл бұрын

It’s VICE, they wouldn’t dare do such a thing.

I served 12 years and majority of these dudes got kicked out or amazed many article 15s for being stupid. People don’t become extremists because of the military, they already come in with those thoughts

Lmao a vet dude, never seen combat dude, but what am I spilling my blood for dude? Dude, come on 😂

It's kind of like the saying "you can take the kid out of the hood but you can't take the hood out of the kid." I think the same thing applies here with some of these veterans, they can't let go of their military life and they keep trying to implement it in everyday civilian life

@stopthemediaswaronmen3029

Жыл бұрын

After taking fathers out of the home, dismantling the traditional family and creating laws and policies which marginalize men. Don't be surprised when you see more of this kind of thing.

@TruthrConsequences

Жыл бұрын

Maybe a hollow point to the noggin' is a solution that benefits everyone else in this world who is not prone to killing other human beings.

@johnbooth5297

Жыл бұрын

@@stopthemediaswaronmen3029 absolutely why do you think the military is having such a hard time recruiting now

@stopthemediaswaronmen3029

Жыл бұрын

@@johnbooth5297 That's all part of their plan. Div3rsity is weakening the miIitary.

@4_youtube_is_dead

Жыл бұрын

hah?

Being in the Army for roughly 2 months means that he never finished Basic Military Training. He was likely kicked out for not passing the psych evaluation while in basic.

@bebrown2354

Жыл бұрын

There's no psych evaluation in basic.

@civ34

Жыл бұрын

Hey coulda been weird as hell and got peered out, which is rare but can happen

@bebrown2354

Жыл бұрын

@@civ34 depends. If it was before 2005, he probably told them he was gay. If it was after, he probably told them he was straight.

@user-xm3km8wt9e

Жыл бұрын

He was kicked out for failure to adapt. That just means he was a bad soldier that had an attitude and didn't work well as a team. Last person you want "training" from. Could possibly have been a physical thing not keeping up with the standard, but they usually put you through again until you pass if it's a physical issue.

@andrewsmith9980

Жыл бұрын

@@bebrown2354 DoD Directive 5124.02... a supervisor or commanding officer may have a member evaluated at any time. depending on the year several branches have questionnaires that don't seem to be psych evals but they are intended to weed out. They are working well when they go unnoticed. To enlist and get processed out in less than 2 months some extreme issues existed. It takes two and a half months for a good soldier to complete basic military training.

This is crazy! The vetting process seems like such bs

I get too dizzy from the 'slant' to keep watching.

@kimt4087

27 күн бұрын

Lol right!

Imagine wearing an armband your grandparents fought against...

@MrAniseable

Жыл бұрын

@Graf von Losinj - I Post Info this popular symbol was flipped and it means different thing...

@AaronLitz

Жыл бұрын

@Graf von Losinj - I Post Info The Nazis stole and desecrated the swastika, like they ruined so many things. One of the _least_ of their crimes, but a crime nonetheless.

@atwilliams8

Жыл бұрын

Many are southerners, their grandparents were traitors too

@ChuxDiaz

Жыл бұрын

@@MrAniseable No It doesn't

@argigamespronl7999

Жыл бұрын

@@ChuxDiaz yes educate yourself

In the early days of my military career, we saw these types all the time, and everyone knew who they were. It was a lot of them then (not most, thankfully), and still is now, but they are far more discreet today. You get the occasional guy who post a little too much or says the quiet part out loud, but I doubt it will ever go away; it's too ingrained in America in general, so it's inevitable that these guys will proliferate in the service. It's scary for many of us, because too often some of them make it to really influential ranks and positions, where they can determine promotions and policy.

@johnconner4695

Жыл бұрын

That’s a lie

@wewenang5167

Жыл бұрын

@@johnconner4695 i guess you are one of the terrorist xD

@jacobedward2401

Жыл бұрын

I can believe it

@hakuuna_matata

Жыл бұрын

Yeaaa that sounds scary.

@SNESpool

Жыл бұрын

@@johnconner4695 which part?

"hold your ground" is not a military communication or is rarely used by the military

You've spent most of your time researching fed honeypots not extremist organizations.

Career vet 4 Army tours from 04-18, 2 years contracting before coming back. OCONUS stations were the best years of my military career. Due to the isolation and influence of foreign or cultural differences, Soldiers were truly a family. We broke bread together, laughed, cried, and bleed together. CONUS, specifically Texas, I experienced every bit of the individuals highlighted in this segment from high ranking officers down to the lowest enlisted. I could not believe the difference, as my first station was OCONUS for almost 6 years. I have good buddies of all races, lifelong companions that if need be, I'd ride through hell again with, but lord knows there is an extremist/racist problem within the ranks, without question.

@Comm0ut

Жыл бұрын

Preach! Americans come together overseas but decay in CONUS.

@troywest1724

Жыл бұрын

I’m a black veteran; I wont disclose what I did in the military. I have had several brothers that are white show and tell me through my 8 years that their is race soldiers in military. Until this day they are my brothers for telling me the truth and now I understand what’s happening in the U.S.

@banditkeef3864

Жыл бұрын

It’s because it’s a perfect fit for an extremist. They are armed and sent to kill foreigners, they are usually not all there mentally so that seems like a dream for them. I thank you for your service tho.

@LastBrigadier

11 ай бұрын

@Nick Gurr napped it outta my tongue.

@staceystrukel1917

11 ай бұрын

@@sambankman-Zelenskyare you defending racism?

Extremism of this scale has always existed - just much more spread out and many small groups. The reason why it started rising in the 2010s is because social media was made available - where people of like mind in fringe society can find one another and group up. Now it's just in plain sight, because of how the internet is. This applies to every single fringe group out there - they've always existed in mass, now they just have a place to converse and converge together. 14:35 - 15:35 this person speaks it perfectly.

@morganhillfightclub2996

Жыл бұрын

Extremism is also getting bad because democrats are trying to abolish the 2nd ammendment If they abolish the 2nd ammendment it willl start a civil war.

@tracyday6710

Жыл бұрын

Bad actors also had a leader who was a POS.

@Fee.1

Жыл бұрын

@9:01 is that real or edited

@solar9610

Жыл бұрын

If that's the case, they'll continue to evolve - and if that's the case, it reveals how many people actually support these ideals and if THAT'S the case, you have to wonder how many people quietly integrate themselves into society and DON'T reveal they have these views but carry them in private to remain integrated into society unlike some of these more militant fellows. This is so far from a 'fringe' thing.

@Dcain2

Жыл бұрын

People on opposite ends of the political spectrum are able to “clash” via social media. As, for example, hard core social justice groups takes 🇺🇸 to the task for inequities… the other side takes it personal and pushes back equally, if not with more force.

once I had worked a job for a contractor. a former air force major was high up in the same company. One day she took me out for lunch and explained that she was very uncomfortable in the south and said she "read to kill a mockingbird". A fictional book set in a fictional town and used that as a basis to motivate me to help her more than other bosses that needed IT work despirately. She was also on the board of predicting their spending for the next year and said we only need two IT people for over 400 employees. I saw where that was going and helped her as much as I could but the more she got me the more she needed me. Now I make 20 more mucks per hour and so glad I am gone. Angry black woman called me 100s of times per week. Proverbial chip on the shoulder type if you know what I mean. Few jobs later met a woman from Africa was one of the best people I ever met. There are all types of racism, get along as best you can eventually they will be flushed out.

Unhappy to show us that horrifying cricket frame once, Vice shows us twice

A big problem is how the military and military personnel are idolised

Twenty bucks says that most of these dudes were not even in a combat job like 11 Bravo or Charlie (using the Army as an example).

@TheRealWinser

Жыл бұрын

And? Is getting shot at a badge of honor or something?

@jingbot1071

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealWinser It does say something about ones skill level.

@charliemannion2718

Жыл бұрын

@@jingbot1071 says nothing about skill but says everything about how mentally unstable that person probably is

@nr619

Жыл бұрын

they are unfit to serve mentally and physically most of the time. they don't understand the meaning of giving your life for your country either since they are all traitors to the flag by wanting to undo the last election !

@PapaTango1M

Жыл бұрын

For every combat soldier there are 9 support soldiers. For every soldier who saw combat there 9 out there lying about their military experience 😂😂😂

I totally get the whole 'is this what I've been risking my life for?' feeling when you get out of the military. You should be pissed. You're getting screwed. But how does that translate to hating black people? They're in there with you, they're getting screwed too!

@TheTruth-ht7qm

Жыл бұрын

Well said. But Black people have always got the Blame for weak people. They are not Extremists they are Devils that like to shoot at armless opponents. Don't wake a Sleeping Lion. History will not be repeated. Too many Good hearted people will not tolerate violence.

@siuraspe4281

Жыл бұрын

Most people dont hate black people they hat Liberal Ideology that promotes hating Republicans for liking America, Trans children surgerys, and taking our rights away Every time I look up theres some new law in my state

@r31n0ut

Жыл бұрын

@@siuraspe4281 we're talking about white supremacists here. They definitely hate black people. And most people don't hate liberals, most people ARE liberals.

@eboyd2478

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@Alexander-wq7qo

2 ай бұрын

You know these people aren't exactly the smartest

how can you in the same video say there were a time with several million clan members and then say the last 20 years was the most politically divided moment in living memory?

@jamesbell2902

18 сағат бұрын

The country wasn’t as politically divided when the klan was at its peak. Millions of Americans supported them! They had thousands of political support in agencies across the country, including the senate, house & even acting Supreme Court judges. The vast support came from the democrat party, but they had some Republican supporters as well. They registered as Democrat until later when liberal democrats started pushing against them. They even had the popular democrat presidential candidate (and likely next president) removed because he was a catholic. The party pulled him at their request. They created a “costume” as they labeled it for sale & it made them a fortune. It was one of the popular Halloween costumes in 1921. The country was divided politically, but nothing like today. The klan was loved by enormous amounts of the population & had they not erupted internally, probably would’ve grown even more powerful over time until the more liberal political figures of later started targeting them. As they did anyway but their numbers were drastically smaller by then & they didn’t have the pull as years before. The klan was no joke! Not just a white trash hate group like they get labeled today.

These people walk among us everyday. Wild.

Military formation: stack up = a crowd of people in a small hallway Military codes : hold your ground = anyone wanting to make a stand. I get your point but come on, I'm just waiting for "fully semi automatic" to be said at this point.

@danm3532

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣"fully semi automatic"...almost as bad as calling an AR-15 as "military grade".

@Tom-og7fi

2 ай бұрын

​@danm3532 who developed the AR-15 weapon. It is a clone of the military grade weapon produced by gun manufacturers for civilian use You are fos.

@kingwing3203

Ай бұрын

The US military is an anti-humanity terrorist organization

What especially struck me, back in the '70s, was how, regardless of where you were from, almost everybody who had asperations to become an NCO, adopted a southern accent. I didn't know what to make of it, but religiously avoided the Rod & Gun Club on friday and saturday nights.

@gloriawilson3241

8 ай бұрын

There are numerous groups out there that are dangerous like ANTIFA and Black lives matter and white nationalist to name a few. Remember when BLM was rioting and burning cities and here in Atlanta BLM murdered a little black girl for being to close to their perimeter.. Having protest is American as apple pir but looting, burning and killing people like BLM and Antifa did is awful and arrest should have been made. Any group that is destructive should be against the law. I live in the south and we seem to have less problems here than anywhere in the nation yet people always want to list us as the most racist or violent.

@executivecarrot3420

8 ай бұрын

What

@jamesregiste960

8 ай бұрын

When the Nazi SS emigrated to America, most were settled in Florida and Texas!😮

@TheJahool

5 ай бұрын

AY, SARNT

@19Mustang71

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for your service sir.

“Used military style of communications” Cuts to clip of them saying hold your ground

Coast Guard Reserve vet 😂 I'm also that of Call of Duty