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@Joseph_R._Azevedo

7 ай бұрын

I’m with the people who believe that this Special is setting up The Midnight Suns, I would absolutely love to see Moon Knight, Jack Russel, Elsa Bloodstone, Man-Thing, Blade, and Black Knight team up, and maybe even Punisher, Daredevil, and Ghost Rider(whenever he gets introduced).

I loved Werewolf by Night. I have a hope that we'd see more of these Special Presentations in the future. Elsa, Jack and Man-Thing need to be explored more.

I'm glad they featured Man Thing. I remember I read a comic of Man Thing back in the day, and there was a part where there's a group of people, and he tells them this is the part where you start screaming for your life.

@adams0123

7 ай бұрын

“All who know fear burn at the touch of the Man-Thing”

Michael Giacchino is always a win… Werewolf By Night was great precisely because of its small scale, the contained story and the style, oh boy, the style, that surpasses it all

Werewolf by Night is in the S tier range of my MCU tier list, that's all I have to say, I love this horror and mystical side of the MCU and I hope it gets more love

Love this Special Presentations! I like how Disney allowed Marvel to go crazy with Werewolf by Night! Thanks for this breakdown! 👏

@jedisalamander2457

7 ай бұрын

Yeah i like both special presentations! I kinda want disney to make more both for marvel, but also maybe a few Star Wars ones

@comedicidiot

7 ай бұрын

Disney doesn't do anything, it's all the Marvel Studio heads

@jlhitz35

6 ай бұрын

​@@jedisalamander2457C'mon Lucasfilm, give us the Star Wars Holiday Special pt. II!

This one was great fun. Wanna see Elsa, Jack, and Ted again some time.

@Joseph_R._Azevedo

7 ай бұрын

Hopefully for a Midnight Suns Project, like a movie series or a tv show

This is where the fun begins! I love Werewolf by Night! So glad that Disney is allowing Marvel to have more mature content be developed! 🙏🏽💪

I think this is one of the strongest Marvel Disney + shows. Right there with the Guardians Christmas Special. I guess I love the one-offs.

Werewolf by night made me realize the whole link thing. I was relieved I didn't need to figure out where it all fit in the universe and could just enjoy

i loved werewolf by night so much, the characters were very charming and the story was quite fun, i really hope it becomes a holiday rewatch classic

Gael García Bernal played a great werewolf and Laura Donnelly was totally badass too they’re great in this and deserve a comeback in the future! Here’s hoping Jack and Elsa make a cameo in Blade!!!

This special presentation is so much better when you watch the documentary about Giacchaino’s process making it

@PillarofGarbage

7 ай бұрын

Director by Night is a gem

Honestly, this is my family's favorite thing of Marvel's ever. Me and the wife we have watched repeatedly. Is it sexy? Si. Is it better than virtually anything that came out in phase four of Marvel's cinematic universe? Absolutely. So, I guess I'm trying to say is we love this thing. Thanks. You are, as always, a delightful guide.

Werewolf by Night feels like a portal to another universe where the Dineyplus MCU (and MCU as a whole) went for Quality over quantity. It is a fantastic special in on any kind of standards, not just for the MCU standards. People are criticising it not because it is a bad story (it isn't), but because it is not your typical MCU story. A story that is as much about the shared universe it exists in than about itself. One that needs to prepare you for 20 other films and tv series rather than to be enjoyed by itself. The moment you see it as its own thing rather than like an origin story for a wider Werewolf by Night sub-franchise, the moment you can appreciate it for what it is.

My favorite thing from Marvel last year! It's sad that it isn't talked about as much, because it really is something special. Plus, the great Michael Giacchino helmed it!

I enjoyed Werewolf By Night immensely: for its evocation of classic horror films; the finding of its own pace and ways to explore characters; and for being its own self-contained story. I was relieved to be able to enjoy it without having to wonder where it fit into the Avengers Phase IX or some multiversal shenanigans. Sadly, I'm sure that some fanatic will spoil this one day by telling me its connections in mind-numbing detail, or that the fur on the costumes 'isn't comic accurate' and yelling that I'm thinking about it wrong - especially my fancy about Elsa Bloodstone being the grandmother of Jessica Jones! I want the luxury to imagine for myself, just for once in this heavily-curated, overly lore-bound franchise. I've begun to re-watch more of the Marvel films and shows that lay outside of and unacknowledged by the MCU, seeking a similar sense of wonder.

Werewolf by Night was such a goos movie, even more so on rewatch. I know it's highly unlikely but I do hope we get to see Elsa and Jack pop up in a future MCU movie or show.

I personally feel that Werewolf by Night is a gem, a bijou. It is perfect unto itself.

I feel like the release of a color version warrants much, much more discussion about Marvel's approach to individuality and overall Disney's failure to understand (or often even care about) their own productions, giving rise to both soulless remakes and sequels missing the entire point of the original, but also vast freedom for their artists to create anything as long as it makes the company money (e.g. Encanto and Strange World would not exist if Disney cared).

Werewolf by Night is a brilliant piece of genre fic that understands classic horror and it's so interesting to think of horror comics vs. horror films and how an adaptation like this strikes a balance between them

@caiasmith1341

7 ай бұрын

The MCU should make more projects like this. Lower budgets and maximum creator control would allow for more experiments to introduce new characters and stuff. Hawkeye was the only other show that I felt like got to break off from the formula in a lot of ways and it was amazing and introduced/reintroduces some great characters.

Werewolf by Night if forever iconic!!! 🌕🐺

Seasonal rewatch? This is a monthly rewatch for me!

Sometimes sincere pulp is what people really need.

Before watching your take on this - yes style over substance in the best possible way… glorious old-school monster trash flick with a tasty unbloated runtime of an our… loved every second of it

Werewolf by Night felt like making amazing new friends while you were on vacation. Don't know when or if you'll be able to hang out again since none of ya'll live in the same place but super psyched if you get to see each other again.

!It's good and I like it" Yes, agree 100% thank you for this video, Werewolf By Night is one of my favorite films ever made in the MCU

For future reference, Giacchino is pronounced “juh key no” I really enjoyed this video. It was nice to hear from someone that enjoyed Werewolf by Night as much as I did.

I’m with the people who believe that this Special is setting up The Midnight Suns, I would absolutely love to see Moon Knight, Jack Russel, Elsa Bloodstone, Man-Thing, Blade, and Black Knight team up, and maybe even Punisher, Daredevil, and Ghost Rider(whenever he gets introduced).

I like the supernatural and some Street level stuff like netflix's DD & JJ S1 specifically. Feels smaller and more personal, specific stories as you put it Pillar, about chapters vs. Stories. WBN & Loki s1 were the things I held dear about Phase 4. I thank you Pillar, your commentary has been part of my journey to look on the bright side of fantasy IP fandom. I could feel bitter about the mcu mostly not being for me, OR I could focus on my past and current loves - like the already mentioned projects, and other non marvel fantasy/sci-fi stories even more so, like Nope and Everything Everywhere. Appreciate the vid

Werewolf by night is a great special!

After watching it I was like pls make everything like this. We need more standalone specials. Mabe up the runtime a bit longer to fit more things in.

I was a big fan of this and hope they do more of these.

The Guardians Holiday Special was so much more fullfilling and self-assured. Giacchino is clearly still learning the ropes in WBN, taking some interesting risks but not knowing how to make them pay off fully. Even when discussing the style alone - the style never rises above being a decent horror homage.

Man, I love Werewolf By Night. Jack and Elsa are such good foils to each other and Ted is an amazing outlier to their dynamic. The 3 of them were set up incredibly, I already care so much about these versions of the characters. I think Marvel would be wasting some serious potential by not making a Midnight Sons movie with them, but they don't need one to make audiences fall in love with these characters. I'm not even a big fan of any old horror films, but lemme tell you, Werewolf By Night is perfect in black & white and only *slightly* less good in color, but that could just be my own personal bias from watching it in black & white the first 3 times I watched it. Freaking love this project

Great job summarizing what made this one of the few sterling gems of phase 4. I didn't even know there was a colorized version... (thanks Marvel/Disney) but that's a good enough reason for me to revisit this.

Loved it then, loved it now. Wish they would have done more of these as this one seemed to hit well with me when most of their other project left me cold. Maybe it was my love of the homage, but maybe, just maybe, it was just good!

Werewolf by Night was great. Better than a lot of the bigger projects. The story wasn't over inflated, they didn't shoehorn extra junk, and the acting was solid. Costumes and sets.were on point. The style was just a cherry on top.

Your opinion of this work is completely correct, and very thoroughly and insightfully presented too ;-}

I have watched this movie 6 times or so.

I really enjoyed it! Took me by surprise! The guy with the big axe and grey beard gave me Huge Karl Gass (from Tenacious D) vibes 🤣

@Piratesi666

7 ай бұрын

I didn’t mean to make it rhyme 😅🤦‍♂️

I hope Michael Giacchino makes a full 2 hour long black and white Legion of Monsters movie with elsa bloodstone, jack russell werewolf by night and ted sallis manthing that gets released theatrically it could be a fun time in the cinemas man

Loved this SpecPres, thoughts the characters suited the genre homage and effects looked cool. Jack and Teddy's dynamic was great and think Elsa bought something different.

Man Thing was partially created using practical effects

I used to love Werewolf By Night comics, but I didn't watch this special because I was so burned out on Marvel stuff after Endgame that I didn't want to be disappointed yet again. Better to leave my guy Jack on the page where I loved him. This retrospective changed my mind. It sounds like this special was the equivalent of an oversize one-shot comic--not a single issue or a full graphic novel, but a mid-length self-contained story. That's the format I always thought Jack most thrived in. The (lack of) color is a nice touch, since a lot of great WWBN comics were black and white. And the shots of Jack interacting with Ted were downright heartwarming. I think I'll give this thing a try. Thanks, Pillar of Garbage.

@onbearfeet

7 ай бұрын

Welp, update: I have now seen the special (my viewing was delayed due to moving house and then getting sick) and yesssssss I loved it. Best Marvel thing I've seen in a WHILE. I first watched it on my laptop in bed while wrapped up in quilts and guzzling a hot drink, and it was the only good part of getting some nasty virus from my toddler niece. I'm gonna watch this thing four more times and then dive headfirst into AO3. (Do people ship Jack and Ted? Elsa/Jack seems obvious, but I hope some enterprising monster aficionado out there ships Jack with Ted.) New hyperfixation unlocked. Thanks again, POG!

@onbearfeet

Ай бұрын

Updating again: I am now one of the more prominent writers in this tiny fandom and am slowly working an elaborate multi-fic storyline into a fixit of (some of) what I hated about Endgame. (It's not gonna fix the fat jokes or the broken causality, but so far I've found a narratively satisfying way to save Black Widow WITHOUT punishing her for infertility and I'm working toward major repairs to Captain America's arc.) Thanks thrice, POG!

I haven't seen "Werewolf By Night" since it came out but I did like it a lot and I still do adore it! I don't know if it was supposed to be the Theme(TM) Heavy Story but "humans are the real monsters" is always welcome (and unfortunately true given the state of the world) -ditto the "family affects us for better or worse". Also it went interesting places, our protagonists had great chemistry, it expands the MCU in interesting ways if they decide to follow the supernatural horror road, and I like horror films -and after watching the original "Nosferatu" film with live music in a film festival a couple of months ago I think I appreciate it even more! Looking forward to more works by mister Giacchino -and also great videos from you kind sir. Keep up the great work and take care!

Great retrospective as always! I adore Werewolf by Night a whole lot, too. The consensus in my bubble is that Jack is a great addition to the MCU protagonists and displaying a kind of "softer", more emotionally mature masculinity that we haven't really seen before in other male main characters in the franchise. I'm sure part of that is to strengthen the contrast of his "montrous" werewolf persona, but I really love it either way. His voice, his physicality, and the way he phrases things is all very endearing imo. Also, though I can see the comparisons with Black Widow, I think Elsa is a nice fresh take on the "hardboiled woman" type character compared to Natasha, because she is allowed to be actually transgressive and distraught and even kind of mean. She isn't smirking or cracking jokes all the time. I love that about Natasha (the sailor line from Cap 2 is one of my favourites!) but I think Elsa as a character could've profited from cutting even more of the typical MCU humour. I would honestly watch stand-alone projects for either of these characters. Ted too! I do think the characters are a big strength of the special as a whole, with Elsa's deranged mother, the diverse hunters, and even the background servants who are all kind of weird. I guess I do have a soft spot for this special haha!

i’d kind of forgotten about it until this video, but now i plan on watching it tonight as my Halloween night movie!

Hi, PoG. Love your videos. I really enjoyed WBN and I have been a fan of the comic since the 1970s. The length is perfect really for a seasonal watch. It doesn't need a strong connection to the MCU or even further story about these characters. The fact that I want to see more of them and know more about them after watching means they are effectively written, fun, and mysterious characters. That seems appropriate. The found family vibe fits in with the MCU at large to me. BTW i think the "special presentation" opening itself is homage to the old CBS special presentation animation that used to run before holiday specials in the olden times. lol Keep up the great work.

@PillarofGarbage

7 ай бұрын

All good points (especially the CBS thing, that’s not something I’d ever have picked up on)!

I liked it. I liked the dark stuff in Marvel when I was a kid.

Werewolf by night is what Marvel needs to do to stay in business like the comic books they need to make their own niches that people want to watch. Growing up I was a Chris Claremont X-Men but I read some other Marvel Comics like Spider-Man and the Incredible Hulk this was during the early to mid 80s when Marvel built up a large fan base you didn't have to read The Avengers or Iron Man to understand Marvel Comics. My hope is this the direction that will go in because it's to a point where people are not going to watch every Marvel movie. And I love werewolf By Night

This was one of my favourite things to come out of phase 4

I don’t think werewolf by night is a style over substance movie, but it’s style is definitely the main reason to watch it.

I really enjoyed it.

We’ll be getting an Agatha/Witches’ Road special presentation this halloween btw :)

werewolf? THEREwolf!!

Werewolf by Night was awesome, and a bright spot in an otherwise dismal Marvel phase 4.

Great video!

Haven't seen this yet but looks like it's worth watching.

totally agree!! werewolf by night is still one of the best times i’ve had watching something it was so much fun. as a queer/trans person i read the situation at the beginning as jack passing in a hostile environment where getting outed as a “monster” would put him in danger, i remember at the time the whole using the bloodstone to try and get rid of the werewolf in him or whatever (don’t remember specifics) as reminiscent of conversion therapy stuff and i think all that is part of why i connected so much to it? idk not greatly worded but i’m tired and i think it gets the point across also probably not the right place for topic suggestions but i would love it if you made a rdr2 video cause it’s been kind of hard to find non-right wing discussion of it online lmao (great video either way through)

its crazy finding your channel. a superhero analysis youtuber who isn't stupidly misogynistic or small minded? truly insane

I love Werewolf-by-night and I was a bit disappointed we didn't see another special presentation this year. I would really love it if the freight train of the MCU continued to pick up talented and passionate people and give them opportunities to make love labours like it. I also would have no issue with any of the characters popping up elsewhere, though I think if we are to see more of the special presentation I would maybe prefer it to give opportunities for different classic vibes of cinema and different characters, as well as more creators. That said, definitely wouldn't turn my nose up at more Giachino, Jack, Elsa or Ted.

I feel like a lot of the reviews of this are unwarranted (not counting this one ^). There's nothing wrong with this special. Being light on character and story isn't the same as having bad characters and a dumb story. The feature did exactly what it wanted to do, and it did it well. Judging it for what it isn't - for what it was never supposed to be - feels unfair. For what it is, there's a lot to love, with no major flaws worth mentioning.

My big problem with the special wasn't the content, but the name. To me, it shouldn't have been named after Jack Russel, but instead focused on the Bloodstone, itself. That way, Jack's inclusion can shock the audience a little, and Elsa can feel less forgotten by the branding. It could have simply been called "Bloodstone", since it's quite evocative already of horror, or could have been called something like "Legacy of the Bloodstone", to really get that old-school horror vibe ("Curse of the Bloodstone" would have been more evocative of them, but I wanted something that fit more with the story). Also, instead of "Marvel Studios Special Presentation", couldn't they have done a more Marvel-tinged branding? "Marvel Spotlight" could have been a nice nod to Werewolf by Night's origins (but maybe not fit with others to fall under the branding), while "Marvel Premiere" could have been a simple one. It wouldn't have to be incredibly obviously a reference to the comics and be called something like "Amazing Fantasy" or the like, since both the previous mentioned still sound like they work for what they were doing as it is. However, we're not likely to see the branding return any time soon, anyways (though come on, it's easy backdoor pilots).

Smashed that like button so fast 🥵

I thought it was a good little movie, and I do want these three to show up in future projects

Hope we get the living Mummy Next

Honestly I think I like it better now than when it came out. Sure it doesn't have a lot of substance as it pertains to characters but there's enough for me to want to watch every halloween (not that I will but I wouldn't mind)

Happy Halloween! I haven't wanted to watch a Marvel movie in quite a while but this video made me interested in it so i'll have to check it out. (Also you make all these videos yourself? They're very well-made!)

@PillarofGarbage

7 ай бұрын

Happy Halloween! Werewolf by Night is possibly the most standalone thing Marvel’s done in yonks - it’s a great (re)entry point to touch base with what the MCU’s up to these days. Hope you enjoy it!

I wish they would just shoot it on film instead of digitally adding in fake cigarette burns.

Now I remember the Thing from comics, like decades ago. It’s such a perfect rendition. On another note, could you be dared to do classics? Casablanca etc?

@PillarofGarbage

7 ай бұрын

I’m certainly not completely against talking about older films, but there’s two main reasons I don’t focus on them atm - It’s harder to come up with original takes on something that’s been out there decades already, and The audience I’ve cultivated at the moment are fickle enough when it comes to watching _modern_ content - it’d likely be a financially poor decision to make much content on classics at the moment. Of course, I try to make my content choices without thinking solely about the money, but I can’t ignore it completely- things are often fairly tight That being said, I have sometimes drawn in older films as intertexts for analysis - (here’s an example of a Rick and Morty video that reads an episode of the show through Tarkovsky’s Solaris: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKiol9t8ka-0hqw.htmlsi=O-VB4HsARGbQMiZr) and I’m sure, at the very least, you can expect more of this type of thing in the future

@GhostOnTheHalfShell

7 ай бұрын

@@PillarofGarbage Well if the mood ever strikes you, I’d be all ears.

I did not get around to a rewatch of the colorization this year, but I did watch it twice last year. I thought it was a good time. Wandavision and FatWS both had some heaviness to them. Had we not had the reference to the Avengers in the opening of WbN, it would have been very difficult to peg it as a part of the larger MCU, or even the time frame it occurred. Everyone I talked to about it enjoyed it. It left me wanting more of Elsa, Jack and Ted. It opens the idea of introducing Greer Grant Nelson as Tigra, or, hear me out, using Howard the Duck some more. Gargoyle is another character they could bring it. There is a lot to mine in terms of Marvel's monsters. I do understand the fatigue of having to watch every single Marvel property in order to get to the next part. My sister wants to see The Marvels but the style of Ms. Marvel did not appeal to her. So she knows Carol and Monica's stories, but not Kamala's which may factor heavily into the movie. Marvel really needs to get F4 and X-Men into development and keep them as separate as possible from what has went on before.

Why is it suddenly style over substance, when marvel takes risks and does a solid classic horror project? Calling marvel style over substance, is a weird criticism when, thats marvel most of the time. And it would be great if marvel did more classic horror projects.

What do you think of the color version they just put on D+? The only reason I can think of that they would do this is to draw in some more-hesitant audiences, but I think it's probably worse off for the movie (although I haven't seen the color version)

Ms Marvel: One Year On?!!!

My issue with the MCU and any longer-length continuity of any form is simple: sacrificing story for hooks and links later content will connect with. I have no problem with leads being given that other shows or films will grasp and carry on. But it should never be at the expense of the current experience. What good does creating future payoffs do if it causes content fatigue and disinterest in the current story? The way MCU should be handled is a naturalistic continuation, not just teasing cliffhangers. THAT is why Phase 1 worked so well. They left little crumbs to get you curious about later projects, but never made it feel like they left something in the story you had to wait on another film to get resolution or a payoff. THAT is what stingers should be for. A little crumb of what's to come.

I, recently, re-watched Werewolf by Night and still liked it alot....however, I don't want to watch it in color as I feel that it will change my viewing experience.

@zemox2534

7 ай бұрын

It is a homage to classic universal horror films so the black and white works well with the tone

@Amy-yh8kf

7 ай бұрын

@@zemox2534 definitely!

I’ll check out the series at some point.

@NadeemShekh-uy9zn

7 ай бұрын

It's not a series

@comicbookking3446

7 ай бұрын

@@NadeemShekh-uy9zn oh wait it’s a one off, never mind.

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Who else thinks they would have actually made some profit if they released this in Theaters?

@EvanBlack11

7 ай бұрын

They did releash it last year as a surprise test screening at a more indie movie therater. There was showing of different movies each theater and whatever theater you went into you didnt know what you was going to see until the movie started. Surprisingly the people there who where all mostly indie movie head really loved the movie and was surprised it was from Marvel.

@verskarton

7 ай бұрын

Maybe as a double or triple feature.

Glad to see some appreciation for this project! It really stands out from the rest of the Marvel Disney+ slop, I wish they did more short films instead of bloated TV shows

To me it just wasn’t scary. Like at all. I remember playing it excited for a horror MCU experience. But idk I didn’t feel anything watching this special. I thought the Guardians Christmas special was so good tho. Unironically probably my favorite Christmas movie of all time. Short special that puts me in a good mood

@zemox2534

7 ай бұрын

Your taste is very questionable

I tried to watch the color version but I thought it lost some of the charm and switched over to the original.

Elsa looks too much like Jessica Jones right? Is it just me?

Hey, would you please talk about the marvels.Alot of stupid discourse gone around the movie hoping it fails.

@4:51. I disagree with this quoted review. What more did he expect to get out of the characters of this special? How much do we know about the heroine of _The Ring_ than the female lead of this short? How much does _Alien_ tell us about the character of Ripley? Practically nothing because most horror films aren't character studies. This sounds like the take of someone looking for something to complain about. "I don't like this thing because it's from the MCU; now, what can I give as a reason?"

I disagree, Marvel shows and movies are not chapters, they are books in a book series. Some better than others, but way more apt than calling them chapters.

Eehh. It just further proves to me how utterly done I am with the MCU. I love horror, I love the Universal Monsters, and Tomb of Dracula and Werewolf By Night are among my favorite Marvel comics from the 70s. And this did nothing for me. It's cool to see Marvel do a little something different but it wasn't enough to make this interesting. Even for an hr long special it drags in the middle with nothing happening after a huge exposition dump in the beginning. Some "violent by MCU standards" action at the end isn't enough to save it. We're so used to copy/paste MCU nonsense we fall head over heels for marginally different mediocrity and act like it's incredible.

Werewolf by Night is a double edged sword for me. Its such a fun stylized romp filled with love and homage, AND it harkens back to the "every mcu film is a different genre" concept. Winter solider being political thriller. Thor dark world being fantasy. Antman being a heist film. But on the other hand, i like it so much that im just disappointed that it will likely be forgotten with the disney reorganization. Im sure the billionaires are pissed at the money theyre losing that would have been used for their 5th yacht. And once the strikes are over, i guarantee there will be some alternative retaliation SOMEHOW, meaning very few things get greenlit. Werewolf by night and Moon knight are two projects that got me super psyched about the idea of a Midnight Sons project, and it seems like thats never gonna happen, or at least not for A LONG time. 😢